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>Upon taking power kicked most Jews out of the government

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>Upon taking power kicked most Jews out of the government
>Reversed the "anti-semetic" laws initiated by Lenin that protected Jews from all criticism
>Reversed the policy of trying to create society from scratch and brought back traditional morals and cultural attributes such as "social realism" artwork
>During WW2 re-opened the churches and allowed religion back as moral for the troops
>Had Trotsky killed because Trotsky hated Stalin's nationalism and wanted to continue Lenin's international communism and was planning in Latin America to get help in assassinating Stalin

Was Stalin vilified by the international communists and neocon right because he was a nationalist?
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>>135480677
Neocons hate him because his socialism in one country impedes on international markets. Communists are a mixed bag. Anarchists obviously hate him. Trotskyites hate him as well although there's some tankies that like him, albeit tankies also support Assad and in some ways could be considered closer to fascists than other communists. Also don't forget he was killed by Jewish doctors loyal to Israel and the west in the "doctors plot". Pic related is soviet propaganda against the Jewish doctors who killed him.
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>>135480677
The true redpill is realizing that Stalin was the good guy. Look at Russia before and after his rule, he industrialized it and turned it into a world power.
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>>135481113
This too.
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I guess this needs to be asked as well: Was the Ukraine famine that is always blamed on Stalin actually his fault, or was that something out of his control that they want to use to attack him?
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>>135481444
False, just like the holocaust.
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>>135481444
The Holodomor happened because of how Stalin tried to industrialize and enforce collectivization too fast, one of his few errors. In my opinion, the famine was inevitable though so it is wrongly being blamed solely on Stalin. Also, much like the Holocaust it was greatly exaggerated.
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>>135481666
>>135481533
>>135481444
>>135481266
>>135480677
>all the fucking triples and doubles in this thread
wew. Will /pol/ finally wake up to the fact that Stalin wasn't such a bad guy?
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>>135481926
I hope so. It bugs me how many people questioned what they were taught about Hitler but refuse to do so about Stalin.
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Go back to lefty pol and gas yourself kike.
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>>135482122
People are stuck in the liberal mindset. National Bolshevism (and Stalinism by it's relation to national bolshevism) is offensive to the mind that has been indoctrinated by liberalism for generations on every conceivable level, from it's rejection to capitalism, to it's embrace of racialism. With that said. Hopefully the conditioning will be broken soon as our ideology is the final redpill brother.
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>>135482483
This
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>>135482562
>>135482483
>don't read his points
instead
>hurr durr go back to /leftypol/
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>>135480677
>Upon taking power kicked most Jews out of the government

That's because most of the Soviet government was Jews. If you purge the government of those you think are still loyal to Trotsky, the majority are going to be Jews. He was married to 3 Jews. He didn't openly turn on them until he was near death, because he felt any one of them could be an American agent, because they all family in the USA. Ironic, considering all the Jews that were involved in American communism.

>Reversed the "anti-semetic" laws initiated by Lenin that protected Jews from all criticism

See above. He still put people trial for anti-semetism. Maybe it was smokescreen to disguise his "Jewsish purge." Maybe not. No one really knows.

>Reversed the policy of trying to create society from scratch and brought back traditional morals and cultural attributes such as "social realism" artwork

Because he figured out that Bolshevik ideas like internationalism and deconstructionism were not good for governing a society and mobilizing people. Sam Huntington was right in that after times of upheaval societies always revert back to their natural state.

>During WW2 re-opened the churches and allowed religion back as moral for the troops

See above.

>Had Trotsky killed because Trotsky hated Stalin's nationalism and wanted to continue Lenin's international communism and was planning in Latin America to get help in assassinating Stalin

Probably.

>Was Stalin vilified by the international communists and neocon right because he was a nationalist?

He did that himself. The Khrushchev Report got leaked to the world by a Mossad agent, which detailed Stalin's crimes. The Left has been running from it ever since and the Right was able to use it as great propaganda, likely because it was true.
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>>135482483
Kikes were the ones that tried ruining Stalinist Russia dumbass. The US is a kike's paradise considering the fact your president is an Israeli puppet.
>>135482525
People on here also seem to think that NazBol and Stalinism are the exact same which isn't true. There are lots of missconceptions about Stalinism here which need to be cleared up.
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>lysenkoism
>redpilled
y'all need to kys
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>>135482780
Sorry, i mistyped there. I meant to put people think they're the same as Communism. Sleep deprivation does thid to you.
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>>135482780
>People on here also seem to think that NazBol and Stalinism are the exact same which isn't true. There are lots of missconceptions about Stalinism here which need to be cleared up.
That's true, National Bolshevism was started by Ernst Niekisch and you could arguably say he was even more nationalistic than Stalin although, you can't deny that Stalin is still an important figure within National Bolshevism.
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>>135482927
That is true though.
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>supporting a form of government invented by jews
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>>135483068
Stalinism is not Communism.
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>>135482968
So tell me comrade, are you a Niekischian NazBol? Please tell me you're not a Duginist.
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>>135483203
I see myself more as a Stalinist but I do think Niekisch has lots of great ideas.
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>>135480677
Be gone commie scum
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>>135483426
>>135483122
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>>135483426
Be gone, fucking Reagan.

I hope you rot in hell for setting up roots of mudslime terrorism.
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>>135483426
"Be gone commie scum"
love you bby
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>>135483390
Fair enough. Stalin was a great man and I like him a lot. Although I more heavily sympathize with Juche.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yne-IsHzne4
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>>135483566
digits confirm.
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>>135480677
is he, I dare I say it
/ourguy/?
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>>135480677

>Was Stalin vilified by the international communists and neocon right because he was a nationalist?

Not only that, but he was really not so fond of corruption, and his rotation... emm... methods would be useful against loads of bureaucrats.
That's why russian government vilifies him as well (of course, only when the things go rough, when things go well, rhetorics are more tolerant).
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I'am not sure about the rest of /pol/, but i genuinely admire stalin.

As far as communists go, he was far from the worst, was an actual anti-smite who recognized the ((international banker)) problem, and unlike the dictates of the ideology, he beat us in an actual war, instead of using subterfuge and subvertion, even thou the allies were basiccaly fedding and clothing the troops, he was still the man in charge, and won to his credit.

I unnironicaly wish Hitler and him had reached some better sort of deal, like just divind england between them instead of fighting that stupid war.
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>>135483719
Yes, he did nothing wrong. A lot of the authoritarian "communists" have more in common with fascists than they do the anarchist scum.
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>>135483566
All these American "patriots" who support Reagen always seem to forget he funded the Mujahideen in Afghanistan who later went on to form Al-Qaeda.
>>135483610
I don't know much about Juche but it does seem nice when you look away from the torrent of propaganda against it.
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>>135483426
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Stalin gives me a creepy vibe and the Holodomor + out-of-control secret police will always linger over his legacy. I fully support DPRK though.
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Stalin killed a lot of subhuman Ukrainians.

He was /ourguy/
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>>135480677
>Was Stalin vilified by the international communists and neocon right because he was a nationalist?

Yes. While Stalin was not perfect, he was certainly a good guy and the Kikes in the US hated him for it.
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>enter thread
>Commie circlejerk

Great discussion guys. Go take a trip to Venezuela for a month if you want to see how great it is being a red
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>>135483426
holy shit
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>>135483927
Holodomor was over exaggerated much like the Holocaust.
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>>135483426

>Haha look at me guize, i'am gonna fight the commies and their subvertion!
>proceeds to sign no fault divorce and give amnesty to a shitton of illegals

Reagan really hated communists and lefties, but like most murricans, he was to retarded and ignorant to understand it and fight it properly.

You can't fight feminism and interracial propaganda with tanks and planes.
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>>135482562
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If it wasn't for the Great Purge and invading Finland immediately after then I would respect Stalin. But even. Either winning World War II, it's hard for me to do so because of what was previously mentioned
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>>135484009
Why is it always the Americans here who think Stalinism is Communism?
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>>135483426
Be gone Taliban financier Reagan.
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>>135480677
>Purged all jews
Nope, kikery was still there. They just made a deal with Stalin and let him have his fun. Reminder that he "died" later once his role was finished.
He and the kikes had to invade and communize all those naught eastern European countries that were right wing nationalistic at the time.
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>>135483856
>I don't know much about Juche but it does seem nice when you look away from the torrent of propaganda against it.
To be fair, a lot of the accounts against the Juche form of government come from defectors who are paid by western governments controlled by Jewish monied interests who want to set up a rothschild bank in the country. They also have ethnic laws preventing foreigners from marrying Korean women, not to mention, they're a socialist nation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfNHdhIE13A
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>>135484104
Because he said he was a communist and the was the leader of a communist country. We tend take people at their word.
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>>135484074

What the fuck are you going on about? Nothing wrong with invading mongoloid Finns or purging subhuman Ukrainians.
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>>135484104
I respect Stalin more than any other communist, he ruled with an Iron fist. although I feel like Russia would have been better off under Fascism rather than Communism
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>>135484230
>communist
>country
Communism isn't supposed to have a state you fucking cretin. A Communist society is stateless, classless and moneyless.
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>>135484159
>inb4 "but he killed Troskty and other jews!"
Pic related
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>>135483799
Never speak again. Do not compare an ideology centered around demanding the best out of people and rewarding the ones who contribute more to the state and welfare of it's people to communism, a system made to bring the highest caliber of people down to the lowest common denominator and seize everything they can from people. Our similarities end at authoritarian.
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>>135484159
Yagoda and Troskty, Stalin had killed. The rest he found useful.
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>>135484315
So it's a magical fairyland? No wonder you pinkos call all communist countries not real
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>>135480677
Broseph Stalin was literally Russia's Hitler, he
dindu nuffin.
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Hey look, a Leftypol raid.
Good try guys but, you're not going to convince me that Stalin's brand of "National Bolshevism" or whatever the fuck you economic illiterates like to call is actually a plausible alternative or comparative to National Capitalism or Fascism.
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>>135484335
>monied power brokers
>highest caliber of people
Pick one you boot licking degenerate faggot
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>>135484392
see >>135484329
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>>135484159
>implying it wasn't Stalin using the Jews to his advantage. He wasn't stupid, he knew how to control them. Why do you think Stalinist Russia was so successful? He was very smart.
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>>135484315
In theory only. Stalin argued differently, because he was realistic. Which just shows what an impractical waste of time the whole thing was.
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>>135484494
>national capitalism
No such thing. Markets know no borders.
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>>135484065
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>>135481444
Holodomor happened partly due to incompetence and shutting up of local officials (fuckers were not reporting to center until it was too late) and the greed from kulaks being sure that either gibsmedats will occur or government, as always, will bend over and buy bread for the (((honest))) price. (Example being slaughtering cattle "so the commies won't take it" - not only it forced commies to "work" with the remains, it also played cruel joke on kurkuls themselves - since they couldn't use said cattle later, when famine struck)

Also, I'll put it this way, had Nicholas II order the same treatment of kulaks in his time (instead of half-assed prodrazverstka which still failed due to collapse of transport system), WWI would not be such a clusterfuck for Russian army and hunger riots of Petersburg would not contribute to February revolution.

Something needed to be done with village "Jews" and USSR (after 1929, IIRC, when attempts of doing the shit good way failed) decided "fuck them, we're not going to tolerate this shit".

Also, there is theory that Ukraine's famine is special, because it was not only famine, but mass poisoning as well, because greedy faggots in their attempts to get extra shekels from black market (Storing TONS of grain in the shit-tier stashes, according to reports of NKVD) unleashed a shit-quality grain.

Judging from my experience with such... ahem... part of russian and ukrainian mentality as "ceльcкoe жлoбcтвo" - "village greed", I say that there surely is something into that.
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>>135484450
Didn't you read? You don't get Communist countries.
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>>135484597
That's his problem. He doesn't read, anything.
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>>135484494
Capitalism's the ideology where it's the easiest for the Jews to have absolute control.
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>>135481444
Yes, and local officials (at least partly), became innocent victims of Stalin's purges later.
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a lot of butthurt subhuman Ukrainians in this thread

Ukrainians are not people. they are property. all ukraine is good for is exporting prostitutes and pornstars
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>>135484159
He did a pretty poor job of it then. It was known by then that capitalism was much better at getting rid of nationalism then socialism in most cases.
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>>135484159
>Commie Jews behind Stalin

Dude, every single person on that pic was killed by Stalin in the 30s.
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>>135484500
if you're better than them than why do they make more money than you? They must be offering something that you are not. Obviously you're a jealous faggot who wants them to share, like a kid who didn't get any candy because he was slow when the pinata opened.
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>>135481444
Also, to put it into perspective, even now it's possible for a center (Moscow), not only to not enforce control, but not even know what is happening in periphery.

Moreso half-a-century ago - this shit was always a trouble in Russia since Empire times, contributing to the "local tzar" phenomenon.
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Watched pic related tonite. Holy shit this movie sucked ass. Just felt like this was relative to the topic at hand
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>>135480677
Stalin was essentially practicing a form of soft natsoc, his ideal to promote family units/national image and the aesthetic cult you still see prominent in Soviet propaganda was the saving grace to a failed system.
Given, I hate the guy because he ultimately squashed national socialism and still allowed a lot of Jewry to run rampant, the guy is the closest thing Slavs have to Hitler and his pan-slavic promotion gave birth to nazbol which leftypol memes aside is practically identical to natsoc instead catering to Slavic nationalism since you know the whole lebensraum/untermensch and settling land Hitler prized.

Stalin? Literally turned a dying state of degenerate kikery into a super power and saved the whole of USSR from being trampled over by Germany, even with the lend and lease program/numerical superiority most observers expected Russia to collapse under the immense pressure but Stalin absolutely played his cards right and pushed propaganda convincing Russians it was the absolute fight and struggle for life itself, it drove an emphatical type of nationalism you still see commonly today.

Tldr; Stalin wasn't real communism that's why he was the only communist with any sort of success.
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>>135480677
>Was Stalin vilified by the international communists and neocon right because he was a nationalist?
Yes. Trotskyism was a Jewish movement both inside the USSR and the West. But Stalin still had his Jews, who still dominated the Communist appartus regionally in the Ukraine under (((Lazar Kaganovich))) and were used to perpetrate the genocide against ethnnic Ukrainians and Russians there.
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>>135484159
>He and the kikes had to invade and communize all those naught eastern European countries that were right wing nationalistic at the time.

> Wew, seems like those countries are playing well with Hitler.
>I wonder, what if we do the same?
> YO, HITLER, WANT SOME POLAND?

Shame that you became irrelevant once the big guys started talking.
Such is the fate of small, but very loud... err... proud nations.
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>>135484550
>>135484673
You see, that's where you're wrong, lads.
The market can absolutely flourish within a homogeneous nation. The problem isn't capitalism, it's those who seek to build a global market place built on the destruction of ethnic and national identity.
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>>135484838
>why do people born with more money make more money than other people?
>why shouldn't the richest people in the country be able to use their wealth to determine national policy to line their own pockets?
Do you realize how retarded you sound right now? If you don't root out the snakes, they will eat you alive. That's what national bolshevism intends to do.
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Fun fact: Ukraine exports more prostitutes and pornstars in proportion to their population than any other country on earth
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>>135480677
>Was Stalin vilified by the international communists and neocon right because he was a nationalist?

Kind of.
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>>135485071
>The problem isn't capitalism, it's those who seek to build a global market place built on the destruction of ethnic and national identity
Which is really easy for the subversive Jews to do under a free market.
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>>135481666
But wasn't the Holodomor was committed by the Jewish commissars?
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>>135485071
The problem occurs when a certain segment of the population gets so rich that they can use their wealth to export jobs to countries where there's cheaper labor. They can also use that wealth to lobby governments to reduce regulations on unethical business practices that harm the nation overall.
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>>135485130
N-no Ukrainians are a proud, strong people who were brutally slaughtered by Stalin!
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>>135485013

Ukrainians are not human.
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Regardless of all the things he did or did not do,
>Upon taking power kicked most Jews out of the government
is the sole reason why he's modern history's second biggest villain.
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>ITT: leftypol autists
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>>135485057
Stalin would've invaded countries like Romania and other eastern european ones, even if we remained neutral.
Why do you think we allied with Germany and The Iron Guard/fascism rose in Romania ? to protect the country from inside communism by the jews and Soviet Russia

We had no choice, goybol.
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>>135485013

*yawn*

Ukrainians are not white. They're not even human. Nobody gives a shit about those balloon-faced subhumans.
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>>135485376
>American mongrel
All you know about socialism was probably taught to you in your shitty school system which probably just called it Communism. Oh, and /r/the_donald of course.
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>>135485380

Nobody gives a shit. Romanians are not Aryan. You're subhuman scum. Your women make great whores to satisfy our Germanic cocks but that's it.
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Cancerous degenerate commies need to suck on Dugins cock some more.
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>>135485485
>not posting with your national flag
>nazbol meme
Opinion trashed
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>>135484269
>although I feel like Russia would have been better off under Fascism

It wouldn't take roots. Russia was an agraric, not industrial state, and the bulk of it was still peasants.

And peasants had that communal mindset for generations as a survival mechanism under the people who didn't give two fucks about them (Pomeshiks, Kulaks, nobility, doesn't matter).

Now, had the Pugachev's riot, or peasant wars succeed into revolution against Romanovs earlier (instead of clusterfuck that was serfdom and later), there would be prerequesites for the fascism to rise.

You just can't rally nation, that is, de facto, consisting from two "russias" - the "noble" russia, filled with decadent degenerates and corrupt and the "bydlo russia" filled with people that are treated like cattle and resource base for the nobility.
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>>135485597
>Commie
You don't know what that word means, mate.
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>>135485618
Ok fine, burger.
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>>135485597
Whats wrong with dugins ideas?
t. likes a lot of his ideas but not some
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>>135485130
When "learning calculus", is considered fucking sovok thing to do, and working in mining is considered "too bydlo, and soviet" for a middle class hipsters, you get this shit.
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>>135484231
What I'm saying is that invading Fins was foolish because of the Great Purge. If the Great Purge didn't happen, or Finland was invaded after a period of restoration, then I would respect Stalin
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>>135485077
>wahhh wahhh people who have money use money to influence people
>this never happens in communism!
>there are absolutely no restrictions on this to stop people from going overboard!
>it's not fair that some people are better than me and left money for their kids!
Make money and influence people you lazy fuck. Money is literally the easiest resource to get in the 1st world. I'm not paying for your food or healthcare just because you are to stupid to figure out how to make, save, and invest money.
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>>135480677
I criminal nation is best run by a criminal after all
the guy robbed banks to finance the bolsheviks, he knew how to protect himself from the rats and keep the thugs in line no shit was he vilified yet successful
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>>135485597
>implying we're Duginites.
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>>135485679
Grew up with you degenerates my whole life.

Go to bed kid.

>>135485785
>t. Alexander Dugin
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>>135484597
>>135484664

>Subscribing to an ideology that is impossible on every level
>Telling other people they need to read

6/10. Star trek isn't real life, nor will it ever be.
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>>135484838
>Obviously you're a jealous faggot who wants them to share, like a kid who didn't get any candy because he was slow when the pinata opened

kek that's exactly what commies are like
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>>135485558
>Kekistan

your Hitler congratulated us, and even stood by when Molotov was asking him to give up Romania

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7tqb4RurnQ

Take that Sargon dick out of your mouth.
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>>135485829
And the Americans rebelled against their colonial government so that makes the American government illegal. Right?
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>>135485163
It isn't possible for them to do so under a fascist economic system, and the parasitic banker class are deprived of their profits. We can have free enterprise without the international elements of capitalism, and hierarchy without undue oppression.

We share many of the same grievances with the present financial system, but I don't think we'll ever see eye-to-eye because Bolsheviks tend to love degeneracy, decadence and decline, and to hate European ideals, morality and faith.
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>>135485380
>Why do you think we allied with Germany and The Iron Guard/fascism rose in Romania ?

Because you are niggers who rely on gibs from Third Reich and can't do shit themselves besides raping and pillaging?

>Stalin would've invaded countries like Romania and other eastern european ones, even if we remained neutral.

If the Grandma had a huj, it would be Grandpa, mate. But I understand, you niggers can't build nationalism without sucking SOMEONE's dick, be it Stalin or Hitler.

At least Krauts deserve respect for doing the shit themselves, even if they attacked my country.
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>>135485975
Fascism is supposed to be a third position to Capitalism and Communism though.
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>>135485828
>wahhh wahhh people who have money use money to influence people
This is a legitimate concern you retarded mongrel.
>this never happens in communism!
You don't understand the difference between communism and socialism. So this point is moot.
>there are absolutely no restrictions on this to stop people from going overboard!
It doesn't matter how many "restrictions" you put in place if your degenerate politicians can be bribed to have them removed.
>it's not fair that some people are better than me and left money for their kids!
Inheritance is not a legitimate form of wealth. I bet you're a spoiled trust fund baby who has never worked a day in his life.
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>>135480677
>betrays Rodzaevsky
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>>135485915
Romanians are Aryans, Hitler confirmed it, so there's really nothing you needed to say to that cuckistani
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White nationalists need to stop complaining about Stalin purging millions of Ukrainians.

Ukrainians are not Aryan. They're not even human.
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>>135480677
Jews will almost never put their own in power. It makes it too obvious, which is why bernie didn't have a chance. When Stalin realized the kikes were using him to their own ends he took action.
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>>135481533
>population increase and mass deaths are mutually exclusive
I guess Africa must be the safest place in the world, right?
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>>135485858
Not hearing any arguments
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>>135486350
They're also not a legitimate nation.
>>135486394
Russians did not breed like niggers.
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>>135486384
Bernie WAS a jew. Still though, I'd rather have had him than Trump leading the US.
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>>135484838
>if you're better than them than why do they make more money than you?

So you saying that rapping Niggers and Kardashians are better than the general white populace and more useful because they make more money.

Good goy.

>They must be offering something that you are not

Yes, degeneracy.
And that's why, in the healthy nation, be it natsoc, fascist or communist, they will be put to death.
But cucks like you won't understand this shit.
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>>135486426
That meme you posted was normally the opposite considerring the Germans did most of the retreating and lost the war.
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>>135485823

If he didn't invade the Finns he'd have lost WWII. Pushing the border back from Leningrad was critical for holding it from the beginning of barbarossa.

People are so desperate to shit on him for Finland they ignore the fact that he won the war>>135485828
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>>135480677
>>Reversed the "anti-semetic" laws initiated by Lenin
Stalin literally made it illegal to be racist towards Jews.

Communism is shit.
Jews are shit.
Commie slavs are shit.
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>>135486017
We were nationalistic long before teaming up with Germany.
>relied only on gibs
Is that why we were vital in supplying oil for Germany ?

Oh, but it's our fault for simply being small compared to the great kikery soviet Russia.
We should just have opened our asses to Russia without a fight?

You nazbols are just "nice guy national commies" larping with a semi nat soc flag
NazBol is an internet meme(and jew friendly, oy gevalt, pic related) and should never be taken into the real world
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>>135486350
Hatred for your fellow Europeans is wrong, Ukranians are more Aryan than the British ever were. How can you look down at Eastern Europeans given the state of our countries?
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>>135486609
kill ratio says otherwise you commie subhuman
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>>135486394
Mate, when you off a quarter of population, it leaves a drop in the demographics.
Hell, the generation of millenials in Russia and several post-soviet states is considered the generation of demographic hole.

Ireland is still struggling to make it up from their famines.
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Fuckin Jews rewriting history...Stalin was a Jew himself and any persecution against der Jude was on paper only...similar to how marrano Jew Castro supposedly ran out der Jude from Cuba...it's all Jewish trickery in order to hide their Monopoly on the Marxist agenda...don't be a fool, all the premier of the Soviet Union were Jude and the (((Bolsheviks))) had total control throughout the ussr existence...
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>>135486747
>being proud of being used by the Germans for your shitty country's only useful resource.
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>>135482483
Hitler did nothing wrong neither did Stalin, the jewish kikes tricked Stalin into fighting Hitler and the Jew tricked Hitler so he would attack Stalin at lest that's who my ancestors told me. Btw R.I.P. Sergeant Dmitri Karov
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>>135486415
There are none, with a man that seeks the genocide of white people.
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Jewish trickery, the holodomor was committed by Jews that's why they confound the history of Stalin and his supposed anti semitism ...pathetic ...the Jews also committed the Armenian genocide..Ataturk and the young Turks were donmeh Jews.... We ain't falling for your Jewish wizardry anymore
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>DUDE WE NEED TO ENSLAVE WHITES
Stalin was an anti-white piece of shit that enslaved whites.

Kill all marxist tools.
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>>135486816
They still won the war though and made the German front completely collapse after Kursk
>>135487034
Capitalism is more akin to slavery.
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>>135482122
Stalin was a jew who killed 65 million Russians, most of them non jews. Married a jewess, named his first born Jacob, spoke Yid, and his ral name was Dzugashvilli, literally "son of Jew" He took out the high jews that threatened him and this is why parts of the cabal dont like him, but the lower ups stayed in government through the end and even to today.

He vanned anti semites, sent to Siberia where most of them died. Defended the Tribe aganist Hitler in WWII. EVERY CONFIRMED "NAZI DEATH CAMP" was (((confirmed))) by the Soviets under the kike sociopath Dzugashvilli. He as also a (((communist))). He took part n the 1917 kike massacre of Rusian royalty.

So Stalin was a jew of the worst kind. All the faggots with shill flags defending him are jews, too.
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>>135486774

shut up you faggot. those mongoloid balloon-faced twats in your pic are subhuman

England contributed far more to science than Ukrainians because Anglo-Saxons have a brain unlike Ukies
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>>135487165
>Stalin was a Jew
He was a Georgian you dumbass.
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>>135482122
Hardly anyone criticizes Stalin, though. Europeans (especially the French) will defend him as they are soft communist sympathizers. Americans defend him because we sent aid to the USSR in WWII, fought in an alliance with them, and are so afraid of admitting past mistakes that we've decided to simply damage control that ridiculous period of our history to this day.

I'm not kidding, last semester at university my economics professor gave a whole lecture on how smart Stalin was for refusing the "capitalist trick" that was the Marshall Plan, the denial of which ended up setting back Eastern Bloc industry and infrastructure by more than a decade. People swallowed it happily. Nobody has a negative opinion on the guy aside from a select few who know basic history.
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>>135486774
>Fellow Europeans


>WE WUZ KANGZ, JESUS AND MADE AMERICAN CONSTITUTION as political ideology
>Clinging to success of anyone with cockhole roots even if he has nothing to do with pigkraine.
>Mindset of gibsmedats for nuffin with the "THEY ARE OUR ENEMIES" squealing when they don't receive what they want.
>The worst of USSR, Russia and general Russian redneck mentality. AMPLIFIED
>The most nagging and brutal, warmongering women, used to holding men on a short leash
>The most greedy and petty nation of the former Soviet Union. Even compared to the kikes and surpassing them.
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>>135487188
The only things Ukrainians can do is complain, whore themselves and starve to death.
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>>135486816
>Muh kill ratio.

We worked over it, when got to those freulein.
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>>135487224
I was talking about on this board sorry for wording that badly.
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>>135486899
It's nationalism story for most of the limitrophes.

It's like woman whoring herself and then daring to demand something as if she has an opinion or something.
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>>135487137
>Capitalism is more akin to slavery.
This.
>>135487034
I wonder how it feels to be this simple minded?
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>>135486059
>This is a legitimate concern you retarded mongrel.
It's a concern to commies. The only people making illegitimate wealth is theifs like burglers, commies, and bankers. People using their wealth to lobby is not an issue in and of itself, people who steal that wealth from others and use it lobby is. And no, your boss is not "stealing" from you. He owns the business. Start your own or work for a different one.
>muh not real communism
lol
>It doesn't matter how many "restrictions" you put in place if your degenerate politicians can be bribed to have them removed.
You have absolutely no idea how a democracy works and how many people are involved. What, does he bribe every single person in the chain? the "bribing" you are talking about is literally paying one person to explain why X restriction should be lifted, and then praying to god they agree with his case he made for you.
>Inheritance is not a legitimate form of wealth.
Just because your parents are retards doesn't mean everyone should suffer from it
>I bet you're a spoiled trust fund baby who has never worked a day in his life.
you just described 99% of all communists who have ever lived. And no, I have a Military career ahead of me that I will use to propel my future political career after I have made tons of money for shouting orders at retarded privates.
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>>135486899
>being used
Keep telling yourself that. Is that why we were vital in Basarabia ?
Nice way of hiding your flag behind that failed meme of an ideology. You don't want me to know your country's role in ww2, eh?
That pic in my last reply exposes your national kikeshevik. You're probably more cringe worthy than kekistani/national civic faggots
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>>135487473
My country actually won the war.
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>>135482701
Notice the strong lack of commie shills arguing against these points.
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>>135487137
>Capitalism is more akin to slavery.
So incredibly high living standards are slavery?

LMAO

Socialists everybody.
They are ACTUALLY that fucking stupid.

>>135487395
>I wonder how it feels to be this simple minded?
Marxists are brainwashed simple minded tools.
It's hilarious how dumb they are.
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>>135487218
If you're not a lying kike, do some research and figure out that jewish isnt a country. Georgia is located in present day Khazaria.
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>>135487224

>whole lecture on how smart Stalin was for refusing the "capitalist trick" that was the Marshall Plan

Considering that in ended with United states bending over the whole western Europe and shoving degeneracy down their throats, together with "muh holocaust"... Which, by the way, contributed to the whole "rapefugees welcome" movement, it really was a smart move.

The whores, who will happily sell their own culture for the jeans, gum and pat on the back from JewMerica (Like fucking niggers) won't understand, though.
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>>135487560
Not everybody has nice living conditions under Capitalism, many African nations are Capitalist and there 14.5% of Americans and 23% of Brits are in poverty.
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>>135487372
>hides flag
>calls other whores

We made sure Europe wasn't muslimized long ago. are you from a progressive country that invited niggers in Europe?
applies to you as well, kikebol >>135487473
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>>135487629
Jew is an ethnicity though and Stalin was ethnically Georgian.
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>>135487218
Jews come in a variety of flavors dumbass.. that's in part why they continuously get away with their evil degeneracy and inhuman behavior. Castro was a marrano Jew, the young Turks were donmeh Jews , Aaron Lopez the #1 black slave trader to the Erica's was a marrano Jew, St. Ignatius Loyola the founder of the Jesuits was a marrano Jew, the house of saud royal family are donmeh Jews... So get off the fuckin history channel and crack open some valid books bruh
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Just remember folks. Ukrainians wanted to kill all Germanic and Celtic people.

Stalin saved Germanics/Celts by purging millions of Ukrainian subhuman scum conspiring to kill west europeans.
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>>135487538
and now UK is an islamic police state,your girls are raped/turned into kebab/blown to pieces, you get arrested for butter knives and right wing posts online, London is 50% white, and your only political choices are an old islamic sucking cuckservative hag and an old guy communist race mixer.

Was it worth it?
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>>135487816
>everyone I don't like is Jewish
I hate Jews but holy fuck you can't be this stupid to believe everyone you disagree with is a Jew.
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>>135487560

>So incredibly high living standards are slavery?

The only reason you have such high living standards in the first place is that commies showed on practice, what happens to fags that continue jewing their own people, you dumb mongrel.

And even then rich faggots found a workaround by outsourcing business to shitskins and importing the nigger and spic filth in your country.

Enjoy your 56%, monkey. But hey, at least you have Iphone and "high standards" (until the generation of the niggers that finish their universities on (((affirmative action)))) actually steps into industry, heh.
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>>135487941
The sand monkeys don't even want to go to your gypsie infested shithole, really says how bad it is if even people trying to dodge a war don't even want to go to your nation, eh?
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>>135487728
>many African nations
which have VERY VERY LOW economic freedom and thus are not capitalist

you brainwashed fucking idiot

holy shit

the reason africa sucks is because they have restricted markets and they don't embrace economic freedom
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>>135487538
>jew shapeshifter changed flags
You're a massive faggot.

>>135487808
>changes back
>repeats an old jewish lie
Ashkenazi jew.
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>>135487851
Gee...looks like your Jew professors did their job
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>>135480677
>tfw there were less jews in stalin's government than hitlers
top kek. /pol/ on suicide watch.
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>>135483426
he let the beaners in
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>>135487411
>It's a concern to commies.
So you're a """"""""nationalist""""""""" who has no problem with power brokers hijacking the nation and the state. Nice to see you've revealed yourself. Rat.
>The only people making illegitimate wealth is theifs like burglers, commies, and bankers.
I think you mean the elite.
>People using their wealth to lobby is not an issue in and of itself
So as a """""""fascist""""""" are you admitting that the financial elites should have a hand in influencing the state? If so take off that fascist flag and just admit you're a libertarian. I bet you're a burger too considering this is your level of education. Fascists explicitly wanted to remove the role of financiers in the state. The state itself was the ultimate authority, not parasites trying to influence it.
>lol
>not understanding theory
lol
>What, does he bribe every single person in the chain? the "bribing" you are talking about is literally paying one person to explain why X restriction should be lifted, and then praying to god they agree with his case he made for you.
You're very naive. People are more likely to be "convinced" of something if you're giving them large sums of money.
>Just because your parents are retards doesn't mean everyone should suffer from it
Sounds like you're describing your own parents considering they made the mental genetic deformity that is yourself.
>you just described 99% of all communists who have ever lived. And no, I have a Military career ahead of me that I will use to propel my future political career after I have made tons of money for shouting orders at retarded privates.
>ahead of me
15 year old who has never worked a day in his life confirmed. Most people join the military at 18.
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>>135488278

You're not white Ukie.

Ukrainian women are whores. You should be ashamed of how slutty your women are.
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>>135488142
I actually forgot to change it back from when I showed the gypsie what nation I'm from. Not everything is a subversive Jewish trick.
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>>135487750
>We made sure Europe wasn't muslimized long ago.

Not you, gipsy.

>Muh role in WW2

Being useless even as a cannon fodder for Hitler and actually contributing to their loss. Wew lad. I am proud of you.

Shame, though, that we didn't wipe you off, together with Hungarians, for being such a useless faggots that could only be useful for atrocities against civvies.
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>>135488068
>le gypsy insult, that will piss of romanians, lol!
Again, you're hiding your flag, how cute.

<-Is she a gypsy as well? didn't know gypsies were white. How blacked are your women?
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>>135487851
>kekistani flag
You have to go back.
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>>135488393

so many whores and pornstars are romanian. you shouldn't be talking.
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>>135487948
That's why the "natsocs" are a fucking joke.

One of the reason why natsoc groups in Russia are poorly consolidated, is because their leaders consider each other a Jew.
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>>135480677
>trying this hard to shill Stalin
This is why you're losing.

>>135488330
This is why you're losing.

>>135488357
This is why you're losing.


>>135488369
This is why you're losing.


All emotional arguments and fudged numbers. Too much effort. Not natural at all.
Fail shilling from /leftyshit/
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>>135481666
Of course it was inevitable, they were communist.
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>>135488393
I already showed you my British flag once. Also, nice cherry picking friend.
<--- This is a 10/10 in Romania
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>>135488525
woah great post mate you sure rekt them
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>>135488525
Not an argument.
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>>135488369
you're assuming dead soviet jews and communist supporters are civies.
>not us
What was Vlad the impaler? what was Stefan the great?

i dunno your country, you're either a (((russian))) or an anglo You still lost either way, the kikes won the war.
Stay cucked, memebol, better hide that flag from me.
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>mfw I see a capitalist
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>>135488357
Youe got jew written all over literally everything you say, the way you say it, the intellectual dishonesty, you should really just get in the chamber yourself. Literally saying over and over (((not a jewish trick)))), jewish goy-killer wasnt jewish, didnt kill the ukrainians either, you're full of shit JEW.
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>>135488502
>"""Natbol""" dissing National Socialism

Just change your flag to communist or leave it by IP.
Seriously.


>>135488583
>>135488589
>OOOOHHH NOOOO HE CALLED ME OUT
>AAAHHH NOT AN ARGUMENT!!!!!!!!

Your goal is to shill Stalin to lurkers and newfags. None of them are fooled by anything you post. I guarantee it.

The effort you put into your trolling and shilling is pathetic and undos both. Also what is this your first time on the 4chinz? Fresh off the boat from 8gag?
Get the fuck out or lurk more.
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>>135488669
>reeeee i can use peoples country as origin as my only argument when they set their flag to something
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>>135488742
>mfw when stalin is dead and all marxists need to be killed and marxism is a dead ideology

hehe
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>>135480677
You do know that he was georgian?
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>>135488789
This is another pitfall shills back in the day used to fall into. And even more recent or long staying ones like my niggas from the Simon Wiesenthal Foundation.

>Hurr if I coordinate a multi-person raid maybe people won't notice and they'll believe multiple random people backing each other up is natural and majority appeal is a go

It's so fucking pathetic.
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>>135488774
Woah there was literally no substance to this post besides literal strawmen, guess I better lurk more.
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>>135488742
That .gif is so unsettling. It's like he's staring into my soul.
>>135488772
Well if I am a Jew, I wouldn't know it and if I turned out to be one I'd be pretty fucking disappointed.
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>>135480677
>>Reversed the policy of trying to create society from scratch and brought back traditional morals and cultural attribute
So basically you are saying he wasn't a marxist.
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>>135488774
>Your goal is to shill Stalin to lurkers and newfags. None of them are fooled by anything you post. I guarantee it.
>wahh he's making an argument that I disagree with and can't refute
>better call him a shill!
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>>135488920
Like seriously if you're going to coordinate off of whichever of the 20 Discords you have to le raid /pol/ with le epic Stalin memes don't do it like this. Bad /leftypol/ faggots. Bad!
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>>135488551
>British nazbol
Don't need to emphasize on that one.

Let's talk about british "women", their degeneracy and how they're sleeping with Ahmed from Pakistan and not you, Brian.

We got normal teeth and actual women, you should brush more and send your whales to a treadmill, jewglo.
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>>135488938
>That .gif is so unsettling. It's like he's staring into my soul.
He's called the "man of steel" for a reason.
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>>135488525
>losing

Mate, if you really think that I unironically try to redpill the western fags, kill yourself.

I'm doing it because I'm bored, I don't give a fuck about your opinion, whether you change it or not. I know that you faggots are degenerates, hypocrites and virtue-signaling cunts who can be as trusted as fucking kikes.

Discussing with you shit is like discussing quantum physics with a nigger. No, even worse, a brick wall. It's useless, pointless, but ok to do out of boredom. "Winning" or "losing" there doesn't matter shit, since I won't receive anything for "winning".
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>>135488972
Calling anyone who disagrees with them a shill is what /r/the_donald does best
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>>135488920
I'm not here via any coordination I just joined cuz I felt like seeing what was going on in the containment board and I saw this thread.
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>>135488938
>Well if I am a Jew, I wouldn't know it and if I turned out to be one I'd be pretty fucking disappointed.
The only people on /pol/ who talk like this are jews. Gas yourself if you didn't know, you do now.
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>>135482525
>>135482122
Why are marxists and heavy statists so brainwashed?
>>
so many butthurt ukrainians and romanians in this thread.

remember my proud white nationalists, there was nothing wrong with stalin purging those subhuman scum. they are not white
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>>135487728
african nations have corrupt governments that dont enforce property rights that's why no one invests there besides huge multinational mineral companies and shit that can afford to hire PMCs to protect their operation.

good luck running a small business or small farm in africa because it's only a matter of time before a horde of nogs murders you in your sleep with impunity. that's why africa is a pile of shit.

poverty in the USA and britain cant be compared to poverty in the rest of the world. and most of the people in poverty in the west is by their own doing.
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>>135489070
This is true my friend.
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>>135487165
>who killed 65 million Russians

remember the 954 million
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>>135488935
Now you're coming off as a shitposter/troll so if your idea was to convince newfags or lurkers of something you're selling they're going to read a post like this and go
>Hey wait a second he's just joshing. He's just having a giggle.
and will doubly fail to take what you're posting seriously.

>>135488972
Shilling = selling shit.
Who said you had to be paid to be a massive homosexual?
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>>135489118
>remember my proud white nationalists, there was nothing wrong with stalin purging those subhuman scum. they are not white
GET OUT
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>>135481444
The Ukraine famine was a myth. And hypothetically speaking if it did ever happen the Ukrainians deserved it.
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>>135489096
>doesn't have an argument so he gives a loaded question instead
lolbertarianism wouldn't uphold itself without a ton of "private police" which would end up being functionally mini governments themselves.
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>>135489055
Also, if you faggots will be going into my country after your failures get infested with niggers, to escape, I will be one of the first to go to Poland to mow down your filth with a machinegun at the borders.
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>>135489096
>Actually questioning history and what I was taught when I was younger
>brainwashed
I think you'll find I am indeed the opposite.
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>>135489096
>ur a statis!
>>135489171
>Shilling = selling shit.
>Who said you had to be paid to be a massive homosexual?
Than I can effectively label you as a shill because so far your only definition of "shill" has been anyone who's opinions you don't like you dumb nigger.
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>>135489138
>my friend
>both chosens
>>135489138
You mean the 9,054 gorillions??
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>>135488469
Someone's crush got blacked.
again, Kekistani. I'm sure that based nigger in MAGA hat will fuck only black women and not outbreed you...right?
Your daddy Kraut calls you, go along!
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>>135489055
>westernfags
What country are you from?

>im bored
You're also shit at this so I'm going to make fun of you.

>blah blah blah something about le j000s
>blah blah blah ur dumb
>blah blah blah make america great again xd im winning

>>135489071
>when the newfag raider forgets he has an ID
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>>135488873
>marxism is a dead ideology
>all marxists need to be killed

pick one retard
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>>135489231
This.
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>>135486746
>Stalin literally made it illegal to be racist towards Jews.

No that was Lenin, retard
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>>135489262
I get it now you're just IAMSILLYing the /leftypol/ Discord raid kids.
Good thinking. Good lulz.
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>>135489208

does it really matter? ukrainians are not human. they're property.

if it did happen, it was not a genocide. it was vandalizing
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>>135489245
So will you gas yourself? You should do it!
>>135489091
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>>135489231
No, you don't get it! To destroy the state you need to create a state!
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None of what you said is real, fucking nazbol retard, he literally criminalized antisemitism in the Soviet Union.
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>>135489328
literally what? because I've made multiple posts on this thread this was a coordinated effort? Uh okay i guess.
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>>135486816
>kill ratio

NOT AN ARGUMENT.

This isn't fucking call of duty, kill ratio means nothing. The only thing that matters in winning and not only did we win we raped the fuck out of every fascist whore in Germany
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>>135489384
>what did my comrade mean by this?
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>>135489208
>Support revolution
>Post-revolutionary leaders starve your people

Ukraine not joining the whites was a mistake on their part 100%.

>>135489476
Shhh stop breaking the delusions
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>>135489415
This desu. Ukrainians are a plague on this earth.
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>>135489231
>lolbertarianism wouldn't uphold itself without a ton of "private police" which would end up being functionally mini governments themselves.
lmao libertarians support the government
what the fuck are you talking about?
You absolute down syndrome retards have no argument.

>>135489345
LOL you people actually WANT to be enslaved.

>>135489245
But you are wrong.
So fucking wrong.
You worship the state like a cuck.

>>135489262
>>ur a statis!
AHAHAHHAHAHA YOU ARE LITERALLY A STATIST KEK THAT WANTS TO BE ENSLAVED

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU

AAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
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>>135489554
They're also not a real nation.
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>>135489552
This only means that Ukrainians are the ultimate cucks.
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>>135489485
>I don't know how to be subtle so I'll just pretend I don't know what you're talking about you nut!

Neck yourself like the lead singer of Linkin Park.

>>135489541
Don't call me your brother cause I ain't your fuckin brother
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>>135489497

"we"
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>>135489609
nice rant

In an unrelated note, why do nazbols try think they are relevant?
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Stalin is a goddamn hero.
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>>135489541
Marxists need to suffocate.
They need to be tortured and their brains kept in jars while they are tortured and endlessly terrified.

Prove me wrong.
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>>135489497
>This isn't fucking call of duty, kill ratio means nothing. The only thing that matters in winning and not only did we win we raped the fuck out of every fascist whore in Germany
why are commie tools such sociopaths?
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>>135489415
>>135489554
Why all the hate on Ukrainians?
Just curious, I don't care either way but is there something specific about them?
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>>135481533
>that's right, goyim, ukriane famine is false, bolsheviks dindu nuffin, make sure you support putin

Only a tankie retard could support a Jewish government murdering millions of white Europeans. Nazbol truly is the new JIDF.
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>>135489738
>killed countless whites
>destroyed the economy

He's a hero if you are brainwashed.
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>>135485275
>>135485428
Nice samfagging. Yes, to the Jews ALL Ukrainians and non-Jews are sub-human cattle, goyim, that you can (and they did) genocide.
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>>135489656
if you insist.
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>>135489695
He's prolly one of the rich kids in a gated community who thinks the Soviets and Stalin were the greatest thing ever for some fucking reason.

It's really sad.


>>135489738
I'm starting to think this is some kind of last ditch effort to wrangle the natbol memesters and try to convert them back to your edgy tankie shit.
Natbol kiddies are smarter than that. Fuck off mate.
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>>135489774
I'd rape your wife too fascist pig fuck.
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>>135489864
Define fascism kid.
Do it.
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>>135489802
>destroyed the economy
He fucking industrialized a mostly agrarian country and turned it into a great power
That is the opposite of destruction.
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>>135489795

SHUT THE FUCK UP.

Ukrainians are NOT white. They're not even human you Ukie faggot. Ukrainian women are whores.
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>>135489609
>accuses me of wanting to be enslaved
>meanwhile he advocates a system in which corporations can run wild with no regulations to keep them from violating your rights.
top kek m80.
>>135489656
Why the fuck are you posting with that flag then?
>>135489739
>posts an unfalsifiable opinion not based on natural sciences but instead on his own political biases
>prove me wrong
Retard Alert!
>>
Hello leftypol. Go away now, no ones likes your shitty internationalist Marxism enjoy your night of long knives and Jewish controlled governments pushing for your destruction. And you'll be wanting it all the way for the "workers" movement like a good little goyium

Don't forget to sage guys
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>>135489802
>implying anyone cares about the lives of whites

>""Destroyed the economy""
literally what- Russia was a really bad place to live in the czarist periods and Stalin increased the productivity and GDP of the country greatly
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>>13548980
>killed countless whites

Ukrainians are not white retard.
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>>135489851
And I bet you're a 14 year old in a middle class neighbourhood who thinks le god emperor is the best thing ever.
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>>135490008
Because you shouldn't be neither faggot
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>>135490005
Can you literally just shut the fuck up no one cares about your shitty bait,

Also stop responding to this baiter please.
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>>135489802
>destroyed the economy
Stalin L I T E R A L L Y made Russia's economy.

From third world shithole to 2nd biggest superpower on the planet (and in space too) in just a few decades and even after solo'ing the Nazis pretty much. Rich American Jews want us to never use his tactics again because they're just too good to compete with.
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>>135487218

Recoils...etc
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>>135490014
>/pol/ is one person with one universal opinion
Fuck off.
>>135490062
Explain yourself nigger whore.
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>>135480677
Based gommunism XD!
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>>135490151
Stalinism isn't Communism.
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>>135490061
Well you just lost your marbles. Make big bets lose big money.
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>>135490151
quality post you made there.
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>>135489851
>Natbol kiddies are smarter than that. Fuck off mate.
If you don't love Stalin you're simply not a NazBol. Maybe you're a Strasserist but accepting Stalin as your lord and saviour is like NazBol 101.
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It always amuses me when someone LARPs about a failed 1850's economic theory.
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>>135489864
>I'd rape your wife too fascist pig fuck.
Too bad you brain damaged delusional commie losers have NOTHING and nobody cares about your dumb ideology.

>>135489925
>He fucking industrialized a mostly agrarian country
Too bad capitalists countries industrialized FAR FAR faster than this and people in capitalist countries had a much greater living standard.

Why are commies such bootlickers?
lmao
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>>135490193
To be fair Strasserists are cool too. I used to be one before I became a nazbol.
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>>135480677
fuck off to your black bloc squat, faggot
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>>135490135
Read one of my other posts.
I stumbled into the thought that you might be butthurt tankies trying to convince natbols to come back.

They wouldn't fall for that shit. They're ours now.
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>>135490008
>meanwhile he advocates a system in which corporations can run wild
I don't though. I support a free market.
I don't know where you are getting this bullshit from.

>with no regulations
Regulations cause more harm than good.

>posts an unfalsifiable opinion
LMAO are you actually a brainwashed marxist?
AHAHHAHAH that's hilarious
you actually want the state to enslave you
LMAO
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>>135480677
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>>135490014
>>135490151
>>135490203

Greedy bourgeois filth fascist pig fucks, your day will come soon enough, the clock is ticking.
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>>135490267
what is the difference between strasserist and natsoc?
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>>135490135
Your right /pol/ isn't one person but this is yet another leftypol thread. Where's that Spanish communist i haven't seen his """""general threads""""" for a while? Could it be they sucked arse and got derailed by endless spiderman posting and that communism is literally the most evil ideology to exist.

Fuck off and take your shitty meme board, which just steals memes and is run by literal transexuals and homo's. You need to post some more anti-spencer/Laura threads now those can rack up the posts
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>>135489245
Hihihihihihi
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>>135490017
>>implying anyone cares about the lives of whites
Nobody cares about your live you BRAINWASHED faggot

get gassed
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>>135490203
He fully industrialized Russia, a country which mostly looked like pic related in around 15 years.
>>135490267
Yeah I used to be a strasserist too.
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>>135490193
>>135490267
>I used to be sober until I found crack

Also
>Stalin
>Natbol
Stalin was an imperialist. Learn your goddamn history.

>>135490371
I told you to define fascism earlier kid. Take it up. I'm making this a straight up honor challenge now.
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>>135490372
Strasserists are real socialists.
NatSocs are more like SocDems with more nationalism and less democracy.
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>>135490392

ukrainians are not people.

next thing you know these capitalists pigs willl be arguing that apes are people
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>>135490076
>Stalin L I T E R A L L Y made Russia's economy.
Which today is a useless worthless shithole
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

NAZBOLs BTFO
You people are literal cucks that want a strong man to hold you.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

>Rich American Jews want us to never use his tactics again because they're just too good to compete with.
LMAO
RUSSIA was a laughably poor shithole.
If he existed today, russia would be even worse off.
The only thing Russia has was military.

Commies are the most brainwashed people on the planet.
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>>135490420
>Stalin was an imperialist. Learn your goddamn history.
And? Imperialism is good, if you can't defend your country you don't deserve to have it.
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>>135490479
>Strasserists
>Real socialists
Hurr u have to be collectivist 2 be socialist

Such entry level shit.
Such ABSOLUTE entry level shit.

Confirms my suspicion you're all tankies.

>comparing natsoc to demsoc
DOUBLE CONFIRMS it.


>>135490525
>Defending imperialism
Tankies are the least socialistic people in existence and you're the apex of examples.
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>>135490285
If you don't have at least some support for Stalin you're not a NazBol. I can tell you're shilling now because you randomly changed your flag mid thread and you've clearly never read any Ernst Nieksich. He was the founder of the National Bolshevik ideology and he supported the Soviet Union for it's extreme militarism.
>>135490336
>I don't though. I support a free market.
The two definitely aren't mutually exclusive.
>Regulations cause more harm than good.
Yeah except when you have a corporation poising your water supply by dumping toxic chemicals into rivers.
>LMAO are you actually a brainwashed marxist?
>AHAHHAHAH that's hilarious
>you actually want the state to enslave you
LMAO
Not an argument fag.
>>135490372
Strasserists take the Soc part of NatSoc seriously.
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>>135490479
And less socialism. NatSoc is borderline socialism.
>>135490521
>being this autistic
I knew Libertarians were autistic but I didn't think they were this bad
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>>135490521
>Which today is a useless worthless shithole
It's not, Russia today is still pretty powerful. Granted it has fallen far from the Stalinist golden-age but that's what happens when you abandon Stalinism.
>RUSSIA was a laughably poor shithole.
True.
Then Stalin came along and every capitalist Jew worldwide shit their pants.
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>>135490496
Hello chalky white man

Are slavs white
Are Italians White
Are Irish white
Are Anglo's white

More divide and conquer bullshit from a kek flag. Your fooling no one, you and your bunch of 4 or 5 lefty poo members convince no one you make nothing you do nothing and you. Your wasting your time go colonize reddit
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>>135490392
>Your right /pol/ isn't one person but this is yet another leftypol thread. Where's that Spanish communist i haven't seen his """""general threads""""" for a while? Could it be they sucked arse and got derailed by endless spiderman posting and that communism is literally the most evil ideology to exist.
Not an argument.
>They're stealing our ebin may mays guise! we have to stap this!
Cry more.
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>>135490687

shut up jew

ukraine is a whore-infested shithole controlled by capitalist jews

one of the biggest jewish lies is convincing ppl that ukrainians are ppl
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>>135490606
Take off that flag, kike.
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>>135490614
Natbol realistically should have NO support for Stalin.

>hurr everyone I disagree with is a shill
>Ernst Nieksich
Yuck
>Supporting militarism

>>135490819
>everyone I disagree with is a kike
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>>135490606
>Hurr u have to be collectivist 2 be socialist
For one thing the collectivist/individualist dichotomy is absolutely retarded. For another that's a non-argument.
>comparing natsoc to demsoc
That's what they are, their idea of "socialism" isn't that different from Bernie Sander's idea of "socialism". It has nothing to do with the workers owning the means of production, ending commodity production or any actual socialism. It's literally just free stuff.

>Defending imperialism
Of course I am. I thought as NazBols we were social Darwinists and not regular communists that unconditionally oppose imperialism.
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>>135490521
It's worthless because Putin is an oligarch puppet who also robs his country blind.
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>>135490687
He's right, just as not all races or people are equal not all Europeans are equal.
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>>135490796
That's not true. I've studied abroad and personally met some impressive people from the Ukraine. I've already asked for evidence that this is true just to see what you'd say and you haven't said anything beyond what a 15 year old troll would.
Either give direct evidence to your claim or move on to talking about something you really know about.
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>>135480677
stalin and hitler were good guys
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>>135491087
This man knows.
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>>135490719
>le totally not leftypol.
These threads pop on every now and then for a few months then they stop for another few months.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/14th_Waffen_Grenadier_Division_of_the_SS_(1st_Galician)

Ukraine is better then commie subhumans. Your entire ideology was created and run by Jews, and is a internationalist cuck hole and you fell for the Jewish bankers wishes 101 after you took your basic bitch university class or got butthurt because someone has more money

It' an obvious pattern since you retards eventually realize it's not working and you stop bothering. Just stop you don't convince anyone, your wasting your precious "Communist time"

>It's not real communism
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>>135491087
If only Hitler wasn't autistic and invaded the USSR
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>>135490796
see
>>135491130
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>>135491057

nice anecdote capitalist jewpig. you're trying to convince us that everyone on earth is an equal human being. typical capitalist jewpig.

ukrainians are lower than apes. complaining about stalin purging ukrainians is like complaining about deer hunters killing deer
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>>135490902
>confirmed as a shilling kike who knows nothing about national bolshevism
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>>135481113
>good guy
>allowed millions of his countrymen, RUSSIAN CITIZENS, to die and shoved it under a rug
You people are fucking retarded.
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>>135490902
>>135491238
Almost forgot.
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>>135491259
Can't make an omelette without cracking a few eggs.
>>
Stalin was a kike. Surrounded by kikes. Married to kikes. Responsible for the deaths of tens of millions. Fuck out of here with that bullshit and never come back. You here me?
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>>135491259
If youre talking about Holodomor that was greatly over exaggerated and most deaths were Ukrainian
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>>135491195
Thanks for indirectly answering my question, bud.

>confirmed 15 yr. old larper
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>>135491338
ukrainians were part of the soviet union.
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>>135491336

>Responsible for the deaths of tens of millions

More like gorillions of innocent nazi supporters and kulaks
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>>135491159
USSR was going to invade western Europe and bring more suffering to the West. Stalin was a nigger
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>>135491411
Yes but they aren't Russian. They were in the Ukraine, not Russia.
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>>135490948
>hurr false dichotomy
It's not it's actually very fundamental. Also I like that rehearsed response. Like you asked some dude on /leftypol/ you look up to and he gave you the answer you just gave me.

>DESE UNLIKE THINGS R DA SAM
>ITS NOT REAL SOCIALISM CUZ SOME GUY ON /leftypol/ TOLD ME IT WASNT

Going to take a Hydeian moment here. A little step out of debate. Out of character if you will.
You haven't read a lick of natsoc doctrine nor review.
So I extend a friendly potential life changing start to a possible new information quest for you.
Read Mein Kampf. This version is the best. If you can find a print version even better.
http://www.nationalists.org/pdf/hitler/mein-kampf-stalag.pdf

Read Evola as well.
(Will have to get you a link in a sec 2 pdf)

>Imperialism is part of social darwinism
Foolishness. Struggle doesn't require constant war and oppression. Colonies and dominions are the workings of bourgeois, and it's sad that any tankie would support the idea of recreating them.
Stop it.
Bad.
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>>135491130
>Ukraine is better then commie subhumans. Your entire ideology was created and run by Jews, and is a internationalist cuck hole and you fell for the Jewish bankers wishes 101 after you took your basic bitch university class or got butthurt because someone has more money
Ukraine is not a real country. Not to mention, my movement was started by this man. A German through and through you filthy subhuman.
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>>135491336
>ynet
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>>135491430
Proof of their so called "plan" to invade please. I hear this all the time but I never see proof.
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>>135491430

false.ukrainians are slaves of the jews. ukrainians wanted to killed western europeans. stalin purged millions of ukrainians comspiring to kill western europeans.

stalin saved western europe
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>>135491423
>More like gorillions of innocent nazi supporters and kulaks
Sounds like what Antifa would like to do to Trump supporters. Kikes never change.
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>>135491238
>u don't know anyting

>>135491290
>wikipedia

LOL!
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>>135491430
then why were the nazis the ones that invaded western and eastern Europe first you fucking idiot
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>>135491534
>he accuses Stalin of being a kike
>uses a kike website with the caption "Israel opinion" as his source.
Top kek, some of these mongrels are retarded.
>>135491601
>accuses me of not knowing anything about national bolshevism
>doesn't even understand the fact that Niekisch is the fucking founder of the national bolshevik movement.
Grow up faggot.
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>>135491597

ukrainians are not white. they're slaves of jews. ukrainians tried to elect hillary clinton by helping DNC.

learn the facts you capalists jewpig-lover
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>>135491589
>Yeah, everyone needs to thank the banker Jews that funded the Russian Revolution or else Western Europe would have been ruined.
The is next level retarded.
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>>135491535
The Soviet Union was intrinsically unstable. It had to expand to survive. According to Suvorov's interpretation of the permanent revolution theory, the communist system had to expand and occupy the entire world to survive. Otherwise, the system would fail in a peaceful and/or military struggle with surrounding "capitalist" countries. Stalin and other Soviet leaders opposed this and high-ranking officials who supported "permanent revolution" were purged from the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. Stalin publicly declared that "the ultimate victory of socialism... can only be achieved on an international scale".[7] Under this theory, Soviet leaders therefore started preparations for a large-scale war of aggression. They officially declared an adherence to the theory of "Socialism in One Country", according to which Socialism can win in a single country, without being immediately overthrown by hostile capitalist neighbors. This leading country would then help revolutionary movements in other countries. Either way, the Soviet pre-war doctrine was based on the Marxism-Leninism theory that capitalism will be overthrown through Communist revolution.

The Soviet Union made extensive preparations for a future war of aggression during the 1920s and 1930s. Suvorov provides an extensive analysis of Stalin's preparations for war. According to Suvorov, there were supposed to be three Five Year Plan phases that would prepare the Soviet Union for war. The first one was to be focused on collectivisation, the second focused on industrialisation, and the third phase would emphasize the militarisation of the country.

Hitler's intelligence identified the USSR's preparations to attack Germany. Therefore, the Wehrmacht had drafted a preemptive war plan based on Hitler's orders as early as mid-1940, soon after the Soviet annexations of Bessarabia and Northern Bukovina. On June 22, 1941, the Axis began an assault on the USSR.
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>>135482701
This and only this
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>>135491704
>g-g-g-grow up!
Oh is that why you're saying I know nothing? I said yuck not
>NO HE DIDN'T
The man was a mess his whole life.
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>>135491589
>Ukrainians are Jewish slaves that's why they joined the Germans in huge numbers. But that's why your a communist following an ideaology created by Jews for Jews and followers by retards like you

COMMUNISM AND THE JEWS

>The Jewish-Bolshevik Decimation of the Russian People
http://youtu.be/DC8GLciF-5s [Embed]
>Jewish financiers and the Russian Revolution
http://youtu.be/Qa-dInQEa-4 [Embed]
>Putin confirms, 85% Jews behind Bolshevism
http://youtu.be/j6p1zxKnDeM [Embed]
http://volokh.com/2011/10/29/communism-and-the-jews/
Communism was Jewish - Communism is Jewish
http://www.controversyofzion.info/communism_was_jewish.htm
Communism's Death Toll, and the Jewish Role in Bolshevism
https://youtube.com/watch?v=km6u4L1JsmY [Embed]
A Jew in Mao's China
http://blogs.forward.com/the-arty-semite/159051/a-jew-in-maos-china/
Jews and Marxism - Socialism - Communism
http://www.come-and-hear.com/dilling/chapt11.html
The Jewish Bolshevik Commies
http://trutube.tv/video/1013/The-Jewish-Bolshevik-Commies
The Jewish Century by Yuri Slezkine
http://books.google.com/books?id=9QNuiuhPzzIC&pg=PA175#v=onepage&q&f=false
Jewish Communists
http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-communists.html
Jewish Founders of International Communism for the One World Order
http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-communists-founders.html
Jewish Pre-Eminence in the Political Left/Communism
http://www.holywar.org/jewishtr/commun.htm
The Jewish Role in the Bolshevik Revolution and Russia's Early Soviet Regime
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v14/v14n1p-4_Weber.html
Jewish Activists Created Communism
http://www.truthtellers.org/alerts/jewishactivistscommunism.html
Jews and Bolshevism
http://www.heretical.com/miscellx/bolshies.html
Jews and Communism
http://iamthewitness.com/doc/Jews.and.Communism.htm
Jewish Bolsheviks
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cf7_1256305898
Jewish Bolshevism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Bolshevism
Jewish Faces in Chinese Government
http://jewishfaces.com/china.html
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>>135491828
The USSR was in no way prepared to invade Germany. There's a reason the Germans made it right outside of Moscow, because the Red Army was not prepared for invasion.
Also, the USSR was a lot more stable than your "thousand year reich" which only lasted for 12 years.
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>>135491944
You haven't made a single argument. Tell me how you as a so called """"national bolshevik"""" can deny that Ernst Niekisch is the founder of the movement. Or are you just some retarded Duginist cuck?
>>
>>135492067
He's probably some reddit fag pretending to be NazBol to either make us look bad or to fit in.
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>>135492051
>The USSR was in no way prepared to invade Germany. There's a reason the Germans made it right outside of Moscow, because the Red Army was not prepared for invasion.
Because they were linned up in attack formation.

Every second the Soviets grew stronger and once they reached a certain point they would of blitzed though Poland and German all the way to the Channel. The only thing stopping the communists taking all of Europe was Germany and America inventing the bombs
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>>135492107
That's my assumption. He's here to cause infighting and discord. He changed his flag mid thread.
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>>135492043

shut up you ukrainian faggot.

ukrainians conspired to help DNC and help hillary clinton to win election.

ukrainians are subhuman scum. they're degenerate they export more prostitutes in proportion to their population than any other country on earth

ukrainians are not human. next thing you know the capitalist jewpigs will be convincing us that gorillas are human and it's ok to fuck them
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Stalin is basically a fascist there's a reason most communist fags don't like him or stalinism
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>>135491490
>It's not it's actually very fundamental
It's intuitive to retards. In truth if you think about it for more than 12 seconds the entire dichotomy collapses.

There is no mode of organization that is fully collectivist or fully individualist, I would even dispute that you could consider it a spectrum as every single mode of organization known to man must preside over a collective which in turn consists of individuals. Indeed if we're going to step into politics at all some level of collectivism is inescapable as politics is only equipped to address people as parts of a group rather than as individuals.

>ITS NOT REAL SOCIALISM
Not an argument.
But yes, those things are not socialism. Subsidized healthcare, education, state protected labour rights and so forth are not socialism - they are social democracy. Socialism is the complete end of the present state of economic affairs and the transition into a new economic mode wherein the workers control the means of production along with the state and goods are produced for use rather than for exchange. I in turn invite you to read some actual socialist theory, Marx, Engels, Lenin, Kropotkin, pick whatever appeals to you most and give it a spin. Critique of the Gotha Programme, The State and Revolution or Conquest of the Bread might be good starts.

>Read Mein Kampf. This version is the best. If you can find a print version even better.
I've already read Mein Kampf long ago in print. Not the same translation mind but I have read it.

>Read Evola as well.
I have not read Evola however, but I do understand Evola is not NatSoc strictly speaking.

>Colonies and dominions are the workings of bourgeois,
They're not the work of the bourgeoisie, colonies and dominions have existed for thousands of years before the bourgeoisie ever emerged as a class. Imperialism in some form has existed ever since one man has beaten another into submission. The strong have the natural right to rule over the weak.
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>>135492192
Can you show me documents or plans which show they planned to march the red army right up to the channel?
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>>135492067
>>135492107
>>135492212
The best test for /leftypol/ crossposters is
1. how much they defend [communist leader or concessionary system adjustments]
and
2. how autistic and socially inept the poster is

Like just going off how autistic you boys are it's just too fucking obvious.

Absolute silliness.
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Comrades,

we have capitalist jewpigs in here literally trying to argue ukrainian subhumans are people.

the capitalist jewpig has been very successful in brainwashing these retards.
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>>135492377
>can't refute his argument
>y-yeah well.. y-you're /leftypol/!
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>>135492377
I've visited /leftypol/ once and they seemed to show contempt and hatred towards Stalinists and NazBols. So I don't know why you called me /leftypol/
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>>135492258
did you pay attention to the media during the election at all? the jews were the only ones that conspired to help hillary. ukrainians didn't do shit. i wonder what kind of shit shithole flag you're hiding kekistanifag.
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>>135492315
>Stalin violated the Soviet-Polish Non-Aggression Pact by invading Poland in 1939
>Stalin violated the Soviet-Finnish Non-Aggression Pact by invading Finland in 1939
>Stalin violated a provision of the Soviet-German Non-Aggression Pact (Ribbentrop-Molotov) by invading Lithuania in 1940
Stalin grabbed a piece of eastern Romania in 1940

The Soviet Union was intrinsically unstable. It had to expand to survive. According to Suvorov's interpretation of the permanent revolution theory, the communist system had to expand and occupy the entire world to survive. Otherwise, the system would fail in a peaceful and/or military struggle with surrounding "capitalist" countries. Stalin and other Soviet leaders opposed this and high-ranking officials who supported "permanent revolution" were purged from the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. Stalin publicly declared that "the ultimate victory of socialism... can only be achieved on an international scale".[7] Under this theory, Soviet leaders therefore started preparations for a large-scale war of aggression. They officially declared an adherence to the theory of "Socialism in One Country", according to which Socialism can win in a single country, without being immediately overthrown by hostile capitalist neighbors. This leading country would then help revolutionary movements in other countries. Either way, the Soviet pre-war doctrine was based on the Marxism-Leninism theory that capitalism will be overthrown through Communist revolution. The Soviet Union made extensive preparations for a future war of aggression during the 1920s and 1930s. Suvorov provides an extensive analysis of Stalin's preparations for war. According to Suvorov, there were supposed to be three Five Year Plan phases that would prepare the Soviet Union for war. The first one was to be focused on collectivisation, the second focused on industrialisation, and the third phase would emphasize the militarisation of the country.
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>>135492515

false, many ukrainians conspired with DNC. shut up you ukrainian gorilla
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>>135492503
Because he's mentally defective comrade.
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>>135492583
You still haven't proved they had plans to invade Germany.
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Russian hackers helped reveal that the DNC was rigged and helped Hillary Clinton win nomination over Comrade Bernie Sanders.
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>>135492664
T-they weren't going to invade, even though they invaded all their neighbors broke every treaty they singed and violated several conditions of the one he had signed with Hitler. And annexed everything up to East Germany installing puppet governments all the way once he had gotten power and invading Korea Manchuria and declaring war on Japan a country which had maintained neutral relations with the Soviets

But yeah he was totally gonna let a radical anti-communist/socialist country exist right next door to it once he could be certain of his victory
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>>135492299
Collectivism and individualism in any socioeconomic system is worth more than 12 seconds of consideration.

>muh spectrum
>everyone is automatically part of a whole
Collections are spooks.

>shoving words into my mouth about what I think is or isn't socialism
>you have to be transitioning to [utopia] or communism for it to be socialism
Marxian Socialism =/= base socialism.
Honestly I'd even go as far as to say Marx's socialism is merely a revolutionary step with an indeterminate end.
You cannot have socialism without commonality between the socis in labor and reap. That is true socialism. Everyone contributes and expects only what they need. Excess turns to fulfillment of wants.
And returning to the other dichotomy individualistic socialism and collectivist socialism are wildly different ideals. Individualists want to reach socialism by cooperation between individuals as part of the whole, collectivists want the individual to become the whole.

>I've already read it!
Read it again.

>They're not the work of the bourgeois
No shit. Stop misinterpreting easy to read sentences you utter autist.
Colonialism/imperialism is the same sort of oppression as the bourgeois towards the prole.


>>135492497
The /leftypol/ worm struggles. Note how he recoils when called by his name.

>>135492503
Okay tankie.
I told you to take off the flag ages ago.
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>>135492909
The burden of proof isn't on me. You were the one who made the claim and now you need to back up that clain with evidence.
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>>135492909
>T-they weren't going to invade, even though they invaded all their neighbors broke every treaty they singed and violated several conditions of the one he had signed with Hitler. And annexed everything up to East Germany installing puppet governments all the way once he had gotten power
Wow gee it's not like Hitler would ever do something like that.
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>>135492909
See:
>>135493026
>>135493056
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>>135493056
Hitler only invaded 8 neutral countries!
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>>135493026
>>135493056
>>135493117
>>135493169
Look at us we're subtle!
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>>135493012
>ad-hom
>still can't explain why he's opposed to Niekisch's ideas while calling himself a "nazbol".
Nice try kike shill.
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>>135493237
>>135493251
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>>135493026
I made claims now refute mine.

Viktor Suvorov (not his real name), a defector from the Soviet era, maintains that plans and preparations had been made for an invasion of German-held Poland. He quotes as evidence among others a Russian - German phrase book to be issued to Red Army officers. The print date appears to be March 1941, i.e. 3 months before the Germans attacked the USSR. The book refers to places and objects within the German territory.

The Red Army at the time was deployed very much forward. That seems very much like an offensively oriented disposition, rather than a defensive one. If Soviet intentions were indeed defensive,

Politically, it was inevitable that the USSR and Germany would come to blows eventually. Stalin must have realised this. It is unthinkable that this supreme realist and paranoiac hadn't planned accordingly.'

https://www.amazon.com/The-Chief-Culprit-Stalins-Design/dp/1591148065


>>135493056
Communists aren't human treaties don't count with non humans
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>>135493365
Still haven't given me any plans. The Red Army couldn't have fucking invaded the entirity of Westen Europe without ANY plans at all.
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>>135493026
Stalin's Plans for World War Two Told by a High Comintern Source", The Historical Journal, Vol. 38, No. 4. (Dec., 1995), pp. 1031–1036.

"Stalin's Role in the Coming of World War II: Opening the Closet Door on a Key Chapter of Recent History", World Affairs. Vol. 158, Issue 4, 1996, pp. 198–211.

"Stalin's Role in the Coming of World War II: Opening the Closet Door on a Key Chapter of Recent History", World Affairs. Vol. 158, Issue 4, 1996, pp. 198–211.

Pleshakov, Constantine. Stalin's Folly: The Tragic First Ten Days of World War Two on the Eastern Front. Boston: Houghton Mifflin, 2005 (ISBN 0-618-36701-2).

Weeks, Albert L. Stalin's Other War: Soviet Grand Strategy, 1939–1941. Lanham, MD: Rowman & Littlefield, 2002 (hardcover; ISBN 0-7425-2191-5); 2003 (paperback, ISBN 0-7425-2192-3).

Any of these will do
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>>135493571
>stuff from some random book
>not showing an ACTUAL plan
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it's never talked about by the slaves of capitalist jewpigs how many of the Ukrainians purged by Stalin wanted to kill west europeans

nothing more cucked than a capitalist
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>>135493365
>Viktor Suvorov (not his real name), a defector from the Soviet era, maintains that plans and preparations had been made for an invasion of German-held Poland. He quotes as evidence among others a Russian - German phrase book to be issued to Red Army officers. The print date appears to be March 1941, i.e. 3 months before the Germans attacked the USSR. The book refers to places and objects within the German territory.
Not the person you're responding to but a defector isn't exactly a credible source. Defectors lie about shit like that all the time to gain favor in their new host countries. Look at all of the NK defectors who have lied about their stories for example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfNHdhIE13A&t=53s
You can also look at the U.S. "War Plan Red" which was a hypothetical scenario should they ever have to invade Britain in WWII.
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>>135493474
In the 1980s Vladimir Rezun, a former officer of the Soviet military intelligence and a defector to the UK, reiterated and explored this claim in his 1987 book Icebreaker: Who Started the Second World War (written using the pseudonym Viktor Suvorov),[4] and in several subsequent books. He argued that Soviet ground-forces were extremely well organized, and were mobilizing en masse along the German-Soviet frontier for a Soviet invasion of Europe slated for Sunday, July 6, 1941, but they were totally unprepared for defensive operations on their own territory.

One of Suvorov's pieces of evidence favoring the theory of an impending Soviet attack was his claim regarding the maps and phrasebooks issued to Soviet troops. Military topographic maps, unlike other military supplies, are strictly local and cannot be used elsewhere than in the intended operational area. Suvorov claims Soviet units were issued with maps of Germany and German-occupied territory, and phrasebooks including questions about SA offices — SA offices were found only in German territory proper. In contrast, maps of Soviet territory were scarce. Notably, after the German attack, the officer responsible for maps, Lieutenant General M.K. Kudryavtsev, was not punished by Stalin, who was known for extreme punishments after failures to obey his orders. According to Suvorov, this demonstrates that Kudryavtsev was obeying the orders of Stalin, who simply did not expect a German attack.
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>>135493474
>>135493732
Suvorov offers as another piece of evidence the extensive effort Stalin took to conceal general mobilization by manipulating the laws setting the conscription age. That allowed Stalin to provide the expansive build-up of the Red Army. Since there was no universal military draft in the Soviet Union until 1939, by enacting the universal military draft on 1 September 1939, and by changing the minimum age for joining the Red Army from 21 to 18, Stalin triggered a mechanism which achieved a dramatic increase in the military strength of the Red Army.This specific law on mobilization allowed the Red Army to increase its army of 1,871,600 men in 1939 to 5,081,000 in the spring of 1941 under secrecy to avoid alarming the rest of the world.[6] Eighteen million reservists were also drafted.[citation needed] The duration of service was 2 years. Thus, according to supporters of the Soviet Union Offensive Plans Theory, the Red Army had to enter a war by 1 September 1941 or the drafted soldiers would have to be released from service.

>inb4 get me a original copy of the plans hand written by Stalin since this source is anti-soviet propaganda :))
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>>135493732
>Now he's using anecdotes
>No actual plans still
>Just troops on the border
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>>135493636
>stuff from some random book
Those articles and books looked completely random man. Just plucked out of thin air. Probably best just to dismiss them right away in lieu of a handy infographic.
^
This is why you can't be taken seriously.
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>>135493815
Can you even read? obviously not since you wouldn't be a jew communist

muh working class
muh world wide revoultion though violant means which Stalin himself said had to happen means nothing

"the ultimate victory of socialism... can only be achieved on an international scale" t.Stalin

But nah totally doesn't count

Stalin dindu nothing. Communism works guys, we're against Jews but our entire ideology is Jewish
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>>135493636
Okay prove to me the Germans actually invaded the Soviet union. If you can't personally hand me a signed book by Hitler it's fake news.

Anything else is not true the Germans didn't even exist
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>>135494133
>strawman
I'm not a communist. Communism would only work in a perfect world and alas the world isn't perfect. But what's wrong with wanting to help the working class? Also, I don't believe in a world revolution. I think you got Stalinism confused with Trotskyism.
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Begone, ye dwellers of Satan.
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>>135493251
>>135493307
>I'm calling myself nazbol
>ignores everything else I write
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>>135494207
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Barbarossa
I hope this is sufficient.
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>>135494274
"the ultimate victory of socialism... can only be achieved on an international scale"
Stalin

Even if it's not internationalist it's still garbage. See strasseists
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>>135493012
1/2
>Collectivism and individualism in any socioeconomic system is worth more than 12 seconds of consideration.
They're worth the 12 seconds it takes to realize how retarded the dichotomy is, not any more than that. Also not an argument.

>Collections are spooks.
So they are, but politics is a spooky game. Unless we're going to go full straw-anarchy where every man governs himself and everyone has the right to do anything whatsoever we're going to have to consider how people are going to be managed and in order to do that we need to consider them as a part of some kind of larger group. Even if we have a Stirnerite union of egoists that's still going to be a collective.

In the case of individualism and collectivism you cannot have one without the other, it is impossible. And it is impossible for reasons you touch upon - any collective can only consist of individuals. Borg-level "for the greater good" type situations are an absolute and total myth as the individuals within a collective will always be considering their needs first. Even in the case of communism, often cited a the ur-example of extreme "collectivism", communists only expect it to work because its in the rational self-interest of individuals.
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>>135493012
>>135494451
>Marxian Socialism =/= base socialism.
Very true, socialism is much older than Marx. However my outline of what socialism is, is broadly consistent with any serious notion of socialism. If the workers don't control the means of production it is simply not socialism, if commodity production for exchange continues it is simply not socialism, if the present economic mode is preserved it is absolutely not socialism. It's entirely possible to miss out on some of these aspects while still being related to socialism (as social democracy is) but that does not mean an economy that retains them is socialist. If it has private ownership, if it has markets, if it has wage labour, credit systems and many such things it is probably capitalist - as Nazi Germany was. Unless you can cite some serious socialist theory demonstrating how capitalism can be socialist.

> Individualists want to reach socialism by cooperation between individuals as part of the whole, collectivists want the individual to become the whole.
Once again I have an opportunity to demonstrate why this dichotomy is retarded. No one wants the latter, every serious socialist acknowledges the necessity of individuals cooperating in mutual interest as a part of a community. In fact it's the only way it could possibly be as any community or system hinges on individuals cooperating, that's the only way any system more comprehensive than total lawless chaos can be achieved. There is the community, and the community consists of individuals, thus why the collectivist/individualist dichotomy is pure nonsense.

>Read it again.
Not an argument.

>No shit. Stop misinterpreting easy to read sentences you utter autist.
At last, you have opened my eyes.
>Colonies and dominions are the workings of bourgeois,
Does not in fact mean
>They're not the work of the bourgeois
Well that's just very interesting. It's not like anyone would backpedal when they realize they explicitly said something dumb.
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>>135494207
Not the person you're responding to, however they actually DID invade the soviet union. The entire basis for yours and the other guys argument are based on the anecdotes of one traitor. It would be like if I defected to Russia in the modern day and went on Russian TV saying that the United States has plans to invade the Russian federation because I was being compelled to do so.
>>135494340
Okay but if you don't follow Niekisch's ideas you're not a fucking nazbol you retarded mong. Niekisch supported the soviet union because he saw that it's inherent militarism was compatible with Prussian militarism. Not to mention that would be like if I called myself a Marxist and didn't follow Marx's ideas.
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>>135493365
>Communists aren't human treaties don't count with non humans
Good thing the vast majority of neutral countries invaded by Hitler weren't communist.
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>>135494379
(((wikipedia)))
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>>135494581
See >>135494532 then
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>>135494581

wow you're a retard.

nazi capitalist jewpig just got owned.

east german women loved soviet cocks deep inside them
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biggest nazi capitalist jewpig lie is that german women were raped by soviets.

no they weren't. they wanted soviet dick. our comrades plowed them well.
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>>135494840
>east german women loved soviet cocks deep inside them
You're really making converts here.
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