/HTG/: FINDING THE GHOST FLEETS

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Starting Points: Areas with a Consistent Rate of Disappearances and Breeding Grounds

Where are they getting the kids and adults that they use for human trafficking? Where are places that large groups of people usually converge or stay at for an extended period? Here are 3 categories:

Where lots of kids meet and stay:

Where lots of adults meet and stay:

Where a mix of children and adults meet and stay:

Once we have determined possibility, we must assess probability. Is it likely that people would be abducted from these areas? Do the traffickers have enough cover to hide behind to get away with abducting people in these areas without too much suspicion? Do these areas have efficient escape routes to where the traffickers can quickly disperse abducted people into trafficking networks or directly to certain locations and people? Lastly, do these areas have enough funding, resources, and number of traffickers with the skills needed to conduct human trafficking operations there?

Next, start looking for connections between people, groups, and already confirmed trafficking networks in these areas. At this step, it is a good idea to bounce around between the midpoints and end points as well to help you find connections.

Breeding grounds are likely not as common as abduction sites and would be harder to figure out, but I think that they are a possibility worth putting on the table.

If worthwhile connections are found between people and groups that have reasonable probability to be connected to trafficking in that area, then it’s time to move on to connecting that starting point to midpoints and end points in whichever order you choose. You can also start to look for connections between other starting points in the trafficking networks if you think that it will lead to something. Connecting these starting points to the midpoints and the end points will help to further validate them.

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>>135449936
Midpoints: Routes, Pit Stops, and Distribution Centers

What means of transport are they using to distribute people? What means of transport are available in that location and would be both economically efficient and unsuspicious? Where would those certain means of transport most easily be able to travel to? Where are those certain means of transportation most commonly going?

Look for the places that the transportation is immediately going to. Do not immediately assume that these are ending points, for they may be midpoints (pit stops or distribution centers). See if anything is being transported to and from these locations, for this will determine if it is either a pit stop or a distribution center, and if it is indeed a midpoint. Something to remember about midpoints, and starting points to some extent, is that there are certain resources required for the transport of people (things like food, drugs for sedation, and etc;). Places that distribute these resources work as assets to the networks and may not be used for relocating people.

Pit stops will follow along the same route, while distribution centers will branch off into a different one. Pit stops will also generally be smaller than distribution centers and have less access to different routes. Pit stops usually work as refueling stations for the transportation and as temporary lodgings. Pits stops in-between distribution centers and end points are important for maintaining a state of confidentiality, as people would start noticing if the routes all directly went to just one place.

Distribution centers are usually a warehouse, a fulfillment center, a cross-dock facility, a bulk break center, or a package handling center. This is where people are sold and transported to their respective ending points. These are especially required to remain hidden or non-suspect, and must be large enough to accommodate for large groups of people.

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>>135449936
>>135449962
End Points: Individuals, Locations, and Organizations

Who are the ones receiving all of these people in the end? It can either be individuals who are looking for personal sex slaves or for people to use as sacrifices.

They can be specific locations which function as a type of Bohemian Grove or for places where they conduct orgies, mass torture, cannibalism (Spirit Cooking comes to mind, along with Spirit Eating), or group sacrifices. Group indoctrination, hazing ceremonies, and blackmail can also occur at these places.

Other locations include military bases, labs, and secret underground bases for genetic experiments, cloning, and for Super Soldier programs. Since some of these locations are top secret it may not be possible to find them, but you can find the trafficking networks that ultimately go to them. Locations like these are also likely to be tied to various groups.

Groups are numerous and varied. Examples are big pharma companies, bio-tech companies, IRL umbrella corporations, and large-scale cults and globalist groups. These groups can conduct any mixture of the previously mentioned activities that require people from human trafficking. These ending points in of themselves would have their own connections within them to different groups and individuals. The “end product” that these groups produce from the people they get through human trafficking may also be relocated and distributed to different places and organizations.

Guessing certain end points and seeing if the starting and midpoints happen to go to them, or are within the proximity of them, can be a valid strategy for finding them out.

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>>135449936
>>135449962
>>135449988
For those of you who don't know what this is by now, you just need to just git gud already. For those of you who are scrubs, it's a guideline to help you discover and map out the trafficking networks.

Another lead that we have is that NGO's that push leftist bullshit have some ghost fleets within the proximity of their locations. Ghost fleets tend to also be white, black, or a mixture of both in color. They can be varied, but motor vehicles like candy vans, buses, and semi's are quite common.

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Look for these kinds of things to map out the trafficking networks (courtesy of Anon5):

1) [Secret Compartments in Vehicles/Ships/Aircraft & Types of Transport](Vans, Semi-Trucks, Buses, Trains etc for Land, Yachts, Cruise Ships, Container/Cargo Ships, Ferry's etc for Sea, Private Jets, Commercial/Cargo Flights, etc for Air.)(Sewers & Subway Tunnels can also be used).

2) [Abandoned Large Buildings in/around Sanctuary Cities.](Big enough to act as Distribution Centers/Warehouses for Trafficking Networks(Weapons, Drugs, People, Body parts/remains, etc))

3) [2016 Election District Map's Blue Parts](In relation to Trafficking Routes, Sanctuary Cities, etc. Work on combining different Maps to see the full picture/patterns.)

Pedo's are not the only groups the Kids are going to & Trafficking has several different categories:

1) [Government]

(For things like Super Soldier programs, Cloning & Body Modifications)

2) [Corporation/Business]

(For things like Genetic Testing/Experimentation & Chimera's)

3) [Criminal]

(Drugs, Weapons, Sex Slaves & Children)

4) [Cult]

(Sacrifices, Blackmail & Indoctrination)

5) [Intel Agencies]

(Brainwashing for Spy/Informant programs & Special Agent operations)

6) [Breeding/Harvesting Farms]

(Selectively Bred/Produced Humans, Organs/Fetuses/Blood & Supplying Trafficking Networks/Centers)

7) [Hollywood]

(Truman Show breeding/handling operations.)

Another thing to note is the use of trafficking for organ harvesting and slave labor (think Qatar for instance).

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Bump and fuck pedo's and human traffickers.

what a

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>>135451540
You know I ask myself this question every day...

I wish I could help, have a bump

>>135452011
Hey man, bumps help a lot actually. You never know when the slide threads will start coming in.

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>>135452229
If only we knew how bad things really are

Anybody ever see this?
https://www.reddit.com/r/houston/comments/18pt71/zaza_insiders_question_whats_up_with_room_322

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>>135452503
Interesting...

>>135452694
Some lady was given the same room a year earlier and was quickly moved to a different room when they realized what room they gave her

http://popculturenerd.com/2012/02/27/on-the-road-with-hilary-davidson

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>>135452503
Who is this guy?

>>135452503
322 is Skull and Bones' number

>>135452934
Answer: Jay Comeaux

But who is he?

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>>135452934
Jay Comeaux formerly of the Stanford Financial Group in Houston

>>135452503
Apparently people have called trying to book the room and they wont allow anybody to book it and dont even list the room

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>So here's a quick rundown of the alleged human trafficker from a previous thread:

He claimed to be working in human trafficking for 13 years now, specifically in South America to the US and Canada. He oversees Bolivia, Peru, and Colombia. He also claimed that in the Americas the trafficking networks are not as nearly well organized as we might think and that they usually release the women when they turn 30 and pay them off. The networks in Europe are supposed to be more professional according to him. The ages that his group traffics are usually anywhere between 13 - 20.

He himself works in delivery and supplying fake credentials to the "product" to get them across borders. Passports, socials, birth certificate. That kind of thing. Once he's done with that, he coordinates the travel, which is apparently almost exclusively done by bus.

A large percentage of the individuals they release are transported back to their home nations and again are given fake credentials and a new identity. If this is the case, and it usually is, they will receive a middle-income pension to keep quiet. Usually, they're directly deposited into their bank accounts from an offshore account in the form of a payment for labor.

After he transports them home, they're no longer his responsibility. The responsibility is handed off to teams of paid off officials, usually high ranking police, to ensure they don't rat.

It's very close to a legitimate witness protection program. They check up on them, make sure they have what they need, and if anybody gets wind of something they're relocated and given a new identity.

They have their own transportation, which they purchase wholesale. They're publicly known and declared as transportation companies. Airport shuttles, city shuttles, things like that.

The majority of their youth product is bought directly from orphanages, or they're bought directly from their parents. Look at orphanages around Bogota, Lima, and Sucre.

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>>135453360
This hotel is in Texas it seems.

>>135454033
Yea its in houston

>>135454264
Looks like their in Dallas, Houston, and soon to be in Austin as well.

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>>135449898
Bumpin

You guys seen any /ewo/s lately?

>>135454904
Not many, though I see that "Rothschilds are Adrenochrome" dealers thread quite a bit.

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Why was I summoned here?

>>135455747
To help stamp out pedo's and reclaim the motherland? Anyone who wants to help us out is welcome to with any info or skills they have. I just try to spread the word around as much as I can to get more eyes on the threads. Assuming that you came here from one my other thread bumps.

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bump

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I only am a tender of memes, I cannot help but have a bump

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reportan

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Bump

>>135449898
I can't help, but here's my bump, please, take it.

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Bumping
Let's tie they noose

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bump, is this pic full of bullshit or real?

>>135457934
That was to cause a distraction on 4chan, nothing came out of it.

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>>135457934
I remember that, was real.

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Sup lads, I did a rudimentary amount of digging into the photos of the trucks/bus that was posted by an anon in the last thread.

It's right next to a Royal Caribbean branch, which I thought was mentioned previously as one of the cruise lines which continued to charter to Haiti during the quake.

There's also a cargo terminal corporation next door as well:

http://archive.is/ymgKC

US Customs and Port Authority are right next door though, which makes me think that if there is anything going on with this property it would be shipping "product" that gets in to another area, maybe where there is a distribution center or something. I'm gonna check right now and see if there's any major highways nearby/where they lead.

>>135458021
We didn't find anything, you mean. They probably house people there to breed them for programs.

Nice to see people actually trying to make a change in the world

>>135458148
hmm, well I did look up that place and there is definitely something weird with it for sure. I don't know what they might be using it for though. But nobody on 4chan got arrested though, that part atleast is BS.

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>>135458273
Of course and if they didn't who cares? We all willing take a risk here tbqh. I'm posting at work so can't share much, and time etc, but yeah it's creepy and a few places there give off odd vibes.

Usage of childs? Same as ever. Organs, MKUltra, paedo blackmail, sacrifice, whatever. Just a source you can breed close to home. Wouldn't be the only intel agency run town in history.

>>135458148
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEMKRgGGL38

The people definitely seem off, don't know if it's part of a program or not though.

>>135458711
Also missing child statistics for auroville? Can we find this?

>>135458956
Possibly, though it's possible that they're either not well documented or that they don't keep count of them. It really is like a runaway society.

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>>135449898

[Hints & Information]

1) Look for "Abandoned" Buildings/Warehouses with a large number of Vehicles parked near them. Something to also look for is Semi-Trailers by those buildings/locations.

2) Paid Protests require Fleets to move around in large numbers, so do Trafficking Networks. Those Vehicle Fleets are sometimes shared.

3) Think like a Trafficker that either has a Established Network or is Trying to Establish a Network.

4) DNC gives Trafficking Networks & there "Ghost Fleets" protection in the Districts they control, especially in Sanctuary Cities. Any place that is/has a "Sanctuary" has Trafficking running through it.

[Threads of Research]:

1) [/HTG/ Archives: http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/subject/%2FHTG%2F/start/3%2F30%2F17/] (Trafficking Research)

2) [KB Archives: http://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/boards/pol.x/subject/Knowledge%20Bomb/username/anonymous5/tripcode/%21%219O2tecpDHQ6/] (Misc Research)

>>135459114
pls go back to containment thread

>>135459097
I don't know what exactly we can do about a place in India though.

>>135458021
not surpised

>>135458148
>>135458273
>>135458711
it's probably just standard political cult thing, the (left) Libertarians in New Hampshire have similar issues. The right libertarians (i.e. Cantwell) are too focused on just providing for themselves

>>135459114
>Look for "Abandoned" Buildings/Warehouses with a large number of Vehicles parked near them. Something to also look for is Semi-Trailers by those buildings/locations.
There is a lot of tearing down of old buildings + construction of new ones where I live. There is also a small cement factory and other such smal buisnesses. Makes it difficult to judge based on that advice

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>>135449898
Ok so I'm curious about this place in Lima, Ohio:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Wright+Distribution+Center/@40.700811,-84.0897917,994m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x883eee3b84d4c681:0x58b91d210f1d47a2!8m2!3d40.700807!4d-84.087603

Beyond the initial building (which has semis) move around and look at all the near-by buildings. There's a TON of shipping companies, some manufacturers, even a place that sells Ice and a Cheerleading practice building. All with a highway running through it. There's Semis and abandon-looking buildings everywhere.

guys,

guys

one of the ghost fleets is about to dock

...

in my butt.

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>>135459114
Hey A5, thanks for this hints and info as always. Texas has started to ban sanctuary cities, or is trying to anyway, so does that mean that some of the ghost fleets in that area are packing up and moving out or is it a safe bet to assume that they are still there?

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>>135449898
Daily Dose:
https://youtu.be/aG1Jd3PF-JU

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>>135451540

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>>135459114
>Paid Protests require Fleets to move around in large numbers, so do Trafficking Networks. Those Vehicle Fleets are sometimes shared.
Another weird company is Shofur. They bus people from Fortune 500 companies around the country in nice buses, and they said they sent a ton to the Women's March on Washington.
https://shofur.com/
However, I can't seem to find many of these buses anywhere

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>>135460915
Looking at all their locations reveals barely any buses anywhere, and most are not theirs... the one on Voelker St (bottom left) might be, but otherwise there's nowhere to store them at the locations. It seems on the website they list each Operator they employ as their own Company, and each has to have their own buses.
https://shofur.com/charter-bus/california/los-angeles

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>>135459727
Ok, check this stop out just across the freeway from your screenshot

Google Maps doesn't show that this big lot/warehouse is owned by anyone and there are some interesting businesses nearby (metalworkers, interior supplies, fire equipment, plastics, tractor engine parts)

Lemme see what street view shows...

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http://childcarecenter.us/

http://www.ghosttowns.com/states/nj/asburypark.html

So far I have a hunch about this sanctuary city in New Jersey called Asbury Park.

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>>135452503
Whatever it is, sooner or later someone's going to delete it.
https://archive.is/0sRGN

>>135452884
https://archive.is/nX8Wj

Friendly reminder always to download important or interesting archives and rename them in such a way that you can find them later.

>>135459114
>Look for "Abandoned" Buildings/Warehouses with a large number of Vehicles parked near them.

Did anything ever come of the giant empty Chinese restaurant in Seattle with the parking lot full of vans? I remember the thread being scolded by a larper on grounds we were spoiling an FBI investigation.

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>>135461416
Yeah one of the buildings is a Cheerleading thing. Right near all the semis.
Creepy as fuck

>>135459970

They would still be there because no one has identified them.

The only times "Ghost Fleets" would move/relocate is if the Trafficking Network itself in that Location was being exposed/stopped and/or the Fleet itself was exposed.

On that note, keep track of(and look back at) any Trucking/Shipping/Transport Company's that close or shut down. Also keep track of "New" ones opening up in Locations.

>>135458111
>>135459727

Interesting

>>135460915
>>135461415

That means they are either Transporting or being Hidden.

>>135461606

Haven't heard about that.

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>>135461415
Also they have this building. Kind of weird, I don't know what these Operator's vans look like or who owns them, but apparently they're on-call and can be reserved to bus rich people around the country.

>>135462088
The top of that building almost looks like it has a pentagram on it. Could just be seeing things and looking too much into it though.

>>135460915
>>135461415
Weird, is there any way to get names of the companies they contract with?

It would make sense for them to add a degree of separation by using multiple companies though

have a bump, sliding is terrible today

>>135461985
Would the 48 hours rule also correlate with human traffickers? If I was one I would think that you would try to get your "product' to either a safe house or along the routes in a ghost fleet within that time frame or less to keep yourself from getting caught.

Holy shit.. Chimaeras... Super Soldier Programs... Satanists, pedophiles, and a giant collapsing house of cards of a society. Spiritual realms are real.. the war between good and evil is here. God is with us!

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>>135461727
Why would they need a huge warehouse for cheerleading stuff? Are they a clothing manufacturer or something?

Ok look at this shit:

Pic related is of the front of the property from the street. The company name on certain signs was redacted from Google Maps when you tried to look at it from the street view at certain angles. I was able to move around and see the logo on one of the smaller signs: West Side Transport.

Doing a specific search with their company name brings up the location though so it's not totally impossible to find. Here is their website:

http://archive.is/ImoO6

It looks like they hire contract drivers. Just like that company who was busted in San Antonio last week.

They have big logos on their trailers/semi trucks so this might not be a good lead...

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>>135461985
Yes, compared to other companies...All the pictures of Cardinal lots I've taken on Maps, they each have their own lot with 4+ buses in it. That's how I found Lima, OH.

>>135462302
They're all named "Bus Company ####." I'd imagine it would be easier to be flexible with location if all your drivers were spread out with their own buses...
You can search by state at the bottom of the site, and click on each "Company" number
>https://shofur.com/charter-bus/district-of-columbia
>https://shofur.com/operator/1054

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>>135462989
They might do competitions there, like Competitive and Gymnastics stuff. You need a lot of floor room.

The thing that got me about that area is there's so many truck rental places, it gives cover. Some of the shipping companies like FedEx and stuff are there, but there's a lot of other ones with unlabeled trucks. Plus Buckeye Charter is right there, so they have different kinds of mass transport all in the same area off the highway.
Plus Waste Management right there too

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>>135462989
Yeah we can start looking at the individual companies there, I just looked at their description in Maps. But they're all right next the Railroad tracks too, so could be another way in. It's a huge juncture.
This would be a good Organ or Heart to use A5's analogy- just in terms of there's a lot of veins out of here, at least Nationally.
Wonder if any of these companies has specific places they only ship to that would be interesting .

>>135461985
I remember that you've said that the Masons have been infiltrated before. Are there any Masonic lodges that are used as points in the trafficking networks? Just a thought that crossed my mind.

>>135463652
Yea it can be a bit difficult trying to figure out which are just normal companies and which might not be.

>>135464590
There's all kinds of companies which provide products and services which you could use for maintaining a fleet.

I'm guessing that Lima is more an "organ" or something connecting "veins" that go to different places since it's in a flyover state. Maybe we can look to see if any of these companies provide services to particular spots on the East Coast for example?

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>>135464897
I've noticed Elk Lodges near pedo hubs, and a Freemason-dedicated mall near a full venue.

Bump fuck human traffickers

>>135465300
Would it be weird to see a lodge next to a pet control/rescue service in the middle of nowhere?

>>135464590
Well would you look at this:

Lima has some trafficking cases happening in it.

>3 arrested for trafficking 14 year old girl
http://archive.is/HFEg6

>2 men convicted for trafficking teenagers
http://archive.is/Jsfd8

This is local stuff though, not having to do with shipping companies. But it shows you that there is an environment which makes this kind of thing possible

>>135465586
Now that I think about it didn't A5 said that they put microchips in some human trafficking victims? A pet control/rescue place would be able to supply that service for them...

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>>135465586
I can't speak too much regarding more isolated areas without some on the ground testimony to corroborate.

>>135466042
How big of a microchip are we talking?

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>>135466042
He did indeed. He's been most invaluable sofar, really. Odd to see him being so clear, and concise. I think he's not actually LARPing here. Last of the real insider heroes, disguising his truth with alot of BS on other stuff.

I salute you A5.

>>135466226
They're like a little pill mate, my car has one. Like someone emptied a pill and put a chip in.

>>135466042
>The tracker was a radio-frequency identification (RFID) chip not unlike one used to tag pets
http://archive.is/dNMdg

Seems like something a veterinarian could easily do

>>135466226
From this article, the size of a kernel of rice

>>135466314
Cat*
Hope my car doesn't have one.

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>>135466346
>>135466314
You might not even need a vet to put these in. This is picture shows one that is not even the smallest I've seen and all it takes is a little gun to inject it.

It's a mistake to focus so much on the unproven sci fi shit like super soldier programs, when there's actual proven leads that could use more eyeballs.

For example, these fuckers just got nailed, and while the stories claim that they were shipped out of state, it's vague as fuck to exactly WHERE and to WHO they were going. I would bet digging into the social networks of the people involved might uncover more people, more destinations, or customers.

http://abc7.com/news/human-trafficking-sex-ring-busted;-13-victims-rescued/2255892/

https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/sex-crimes/southern-california-sex-trafficking-ring-had-las-vegas-ties/

>>135452229
>>135452694

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiro/comments/2tvdzs/slc_creepy_daycare_saga/

This thread had a ton of info and i remember seeing that 322 room there.
Was some creepy shit. Someone even threatened OP not to dig deeper and stated his adress. OP got scared and abandoned.
In the end everything lead to some coordinates.

Rabbit was linked to a gang abducting children.

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>>135466697
>unproven
what a

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Bump for justice

>>135466946
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/133657808/

Another Rabbit....seems to be linked to pizzagate

>>135466697
No one is really focusing on those topics, just listing them in case we stumble across one.

That Southern CA ring reminds me of that case where a girl in NV disappeared and showed up in Venice Beach.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4242534/Emotional-moment-Utah-girl-17-reunited-family.html

The cops would refuse to say whether or not it was actual trafficking, wonder if it was related to this recent bust.

>>135466946

http://i.imgur.com/8lGhBoo.png

That's the thread.

>>135466226
Funny how the place I'm looking at isn't that far from an Anytime Fitness either.

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>>135466946

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>>135467400
>checked
That's not funny at all.

>>135449898
Human trafficking is a problem.

But you are just a schizophrenic looking at Google maps and making shit up as you go with no evidence or proof.

>Quinton Brown III, 30, Highland
>Gerald Lavell Turner, 32, and Fresno
>Mia Maree McNeil, 32 Los angels.

>>135466956
The last MK ultra lead is decades old. The news reports are claiming that theres a "nascar circut of trafficing" of people moving around from place to place, following events. If that's true, then they're have contacts, facilities, customer aquisition, friends, all sorts of shit that's a footprint. The three people involved individually cover half the state by themselves.

Hell, if a bunch of prostitutes go to fleet week in San Diego, or some millitary city and then dissapear off the face of the planet, it might even give you a lead or an angle on that /x/ shit.

>>135467095
I would be suspicious as fuck, but there's no evidence either way. There's also a very real likelihood that these fuckers aren't the only ones in buisness.

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>>135467589
Do they normally look like this? This place looks kind of odd for a gym and I don't even see a sign advertising it as such anywhere. Place has got some odd negative reviews too.

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>>135468283
The facilities I see have been fairly new, in contrast to the failing businesses around it. It's hard to tell from the view, but I see them in the strangest places.

>>135454904
thats just a preschool class taking kids to see how pizza is made. i went to one when i was like 4 or 5. big whoop

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Check this out.

CSX's office near Palatka (which we looked at before) directs you to this block which is littered with abandoned, decrepit buildings. The building the address takes you to is a tiny "church" that doesn't look like it could house more than 20 people and has a trailer out back. Pretty sure it is not a church.

Across the street from the address provided for CSX, there is a lot with a ton of trailers sitting around. If you go into street view, the whole property is fenced off and overgrown. Pretty hard to see in. Actually the whole area has a lot of foliage cover.

I'm gonna do some additional searches to see if this address was listed on Google by mistake or something.

>>135461985
What do you think of this?

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>>135453871
I wonder if the place was involved in trafficking?

https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/15737396/

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>>135468499
I also found a masonic lodge run out of a some guy's house it seems with a inverted pentagram in what appears to be primary colors in another state. Would you consider that to be suspicious? I also thought that Masons weren't supposed to actually be satanists so that's kind of weird too.

>>135469476

There is literally a vice story about this house. Whatever was there was cleaned out 2 years ago.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/4wbeyj/the-online-conspiracy-theories-about-a-salt-lake-city-daycare

>>135469476
>>135469923
Is this the daycare place where they were saying there was tunnels and stuff running underground?

Because that sounded like it was a CPP style diversion.

>>135469375
Looks like the company across the street builds cabinets/does woodwork

http://archive.is/KVLyX

Those trailers might belong to them, I'm not sure.

Other stuff around there is a Post Office and "Gator Parts and Sales" which doesn't list a website

Can someone traffic me a gf?

>>135470150
Yeah there was tonnes of discussion on plebbit and 8pol.

I thought it might give people some clues on what to look for

plebbit post: https://web.archive.org/web/20150129142203/http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/2tvah1/slc_creepy_daycare_saga

Unrelated but holy shit this is weird.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpaRouocBes

I was originally going to get behind this like I did for /EWS/, but then I see A5 has been shilling his own shit in these threads constantly without even being called out
>read muh knowledge bombs it has everything
>make sure to read my past threads
>hey guys im important read up on what I'm saying
how about you fuck off and quit trying to spread disinfo? it's like he's intentionally trying to discredit this by attaching his own autistic name to this. FUCK OFF, go back to writing about the /x/ shit you're known for, you're not helping.

>>135471295
I love stuff like that personally, but yeah I remember seeing that clip before. Lot of meaning behind it.

>>135471476

Currently lurking on:http://nrgiseternal.com/index.php/topic,421.135.html?PHPSESSID=5633bf55596bcd93d6a0a9bcc5f4a7b7

Reading: https://hubpages.com/politics/trailofdeceit

Related: http://ellinsworth.deviantart.com/art/The-Book-of-the-Key-and-the-Lock-519856466

Mainly a bunch of pseudoscience but a fun little puzzle.

>>135469375

Once /HTG/ starts understanding what to look for & how to look for it, the method then be applied to Sanctuary Cities & other locations.

Remember:

[Once you start Identifying the Veins/Arteries(Trafficking Networks), Finding the Blood in them("Ghost Fleets" & whatever "product" they are moving around), you will be able to Find the Organs(Distribution Centers, Safe houses & Breeding Farms) that will Show you the Hearts(Cities/Towns) that if stopped will make destroying the Brains(Power Structures,Governments & Corporations/Industry's running them) easier.]

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>>135471333
>shilling about a5
>not just going and starting an /ewo/ bread

I sense some slight nervousness

>>135472396
Overall they've started shilling up the threads less, though there a ton of slide threads today I've noticed for whatever reasons.

>>135450470
also look for art museums and art transportation facilities. they ship lots of very odd-shaped containers to and from odd places, and they have connections to some of the most messed up people on the planet.

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>>135465586
Incinerator

>>135449898
bumpety bump bump in the night

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possibly transport

http://archive.is/VJ3BG

>>135465894
Huh, might look closer into that city. And where to/from the main shipping routes seem to go.

>>135471333
Why would that prevent you from helping? You don't have to take his hints

>>135461606
Buuuuuuuuump

>>135472855
Incinerator? I'm confused.

KEK
did one of you guys do this!?
https://twitter.com/eleebeck/status/891322953346011136

>>135449898
Wait do you losers work for the government now? BTW human trafficking is just a buzz word which is synonymous with prostitution. Government just needs to fill the prisons back up now that their giving lighter sentences to drug users. So they arrest johns and pimps and call it human trafficking a literal fucking joke. Good luck kids.

>>135473715
it's schizophrenia.

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>>135473715
They have incinerators at some animal control facilities.

I think incinerators are part of how they dispose of bodies.

>>135462233
It's a triangle with a flattened X, rather than the triangle and then another one imposed on top and turned 180°.

You're reading into it.

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It was mentioned in an earlier thread to start on the outside of cities... This is outside of Columbus, an airport next to a Railroad Junction with lots of cars, and a ton of buildings next to the airport that are Shipping/transport/have many Semis. It's also connected to Lima by highway, and as a bigger city would have more connections. (potentially from other countries through the airport)
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Rickenbacker+International+Airport/@39.8245609,-82.9462132,8588m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m12!1m6!3m5!1s0x883eee3b84d4c681:0x58b91d210f1d47a2!2sWright+Distribution+Center!8m2!3d40.700807!4d-84.087603!3m4!1s0x0:0x4c504e65967f1896!8m2!3d39.8174036!4d-82.9358768

you're doing gods work /pol/ best of luck to you. Much love

>>135474772
you mean like a pizza oven?

>>135475347
Or barbecue places

>>135472396
>shilling for a5
>concern trolling
i sense some slight nervousness shlomo
>>135472877
i don't take his "hints". you do, that's the problem. kek even gave me digits to confirm my suspicions.

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>>135475216
Thank you.

Pray for the children.

With all your heart, and mine too.

>>135449898
Has anyone ordered/tried this adrenochrome stuff?

>>135476394
I try not to focus on that here, all the threads about that I've seem like disinfo to be honest.

>>135476070
Yeah well I had digits too and I asked why you can't help in your own way. What do YOU suggest we do then, if not go down our current track? Come on man, take the lead if you're convinced you know more.

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>>135475347

Fee fie foe fum

I smell the blood of an Englishman

Be he live, or be he dead,

I'll grind his bones to make my bread.

Yes, like pizza ovens, or BBQ.

Pic related.

>>135476477
hmm, well you do have digits

>>135453164
>Jay Comeaux
http://www.chron.com/life/article/The-story-behind-ZaZa-s-goth-dungeon-closet-4288247.php

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>>135476589

http://www.atlasobscura.com/places/child-eater-bern

>>135476540
my only advice would be to not ask for "leaders" or figureheads who want to be "in charge" because they are never genuine. In A5's case he wants to build a cult of personality and lives off (You)'s and attention. Like I said in my original response, I have no interest after lurking the past dozen or so HTG threads and seeing them turn into pseudo knowledge bomb threads. Either way, unlike A5 I won't stick around this thread and draw attention to myself so I wish you and the other genuine non-larps luck in the search for truth.

>>135469923
you guys are fucking crazy.

Next you'll say all parents of children are into human trafficking and deserved to be doxxed.

You have no proof or reason for any of the shit you do.

>>135475851
>>135476589
Also, I see BBQ restaurants are back on your radar for harassment. The last time you guys dropped the idea literally because "BBQ is delicious". fucking idiots.

>>135477157
No one's forcing you to stay in this thread you know, there are plenty of others.

What form of transportation was the southern california ring using? If they're using RVs, or small refrigerated trucks, they aren't going to necessarily be using infrastructure for huge trucks, or they'll need smaller trucks or whatever to move the cargo from a distribution center to wherever they're doing the sex work.

>>135476540

Notice how the Shills are showing up after the Ghost Fleet research has started to look at locations.

They don't like how people are now looking for them.

>>135477308
I don't know if you're the same guy who always makes this response or if this is just the canned response you fuckheads use every time someone criticizes you.

You have no proof and are absolutely paranoid. You people harass innocent people while doing absolutely fucking nothing for real human trafficking victims. You are fucking monsters all of you.

>>135477457
Your speculations means nothing and your "research" does shit.

What are you going to do about it? How are you going to stop this giant conspiracy?

>>135477477
There's a message in the OP telling people in this thread NOT to harass people, so I fail to see how you're able to implicate that we're planning to do anything of the sort.

>>135477139
To be fair he only gives hints, he's not really "in charge" of anything in these threads.
Be sure to drop by with any info you may encounter in the future

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>>135477157
Not all parents but I'm sure it happens.

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>>135477282

Why are you here?
Do you think we'll stop because you called us names?

WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU GOING TO DO?

angrily text at me?
Insult me a second time?

>>135477589
>There's a message in the OP telling people in this thread NOT to harass people
yeah, but, these people are supposedly kidnapping children, sexually abusing them, murdering them and burning their bodies and using pizza and BBQ restaurants as a cover. According to this thread and you, you're suggesting that these are extremely evil people that must be stopped at all costs- but stop short of doing anything, because.

Are you really this fucking stupid? You think these people can have an international human trafficking ring where they destroy children and murder people yet somehow they aren't hunting you down to kill every single one of you in this thread?

Really?

This is why this thread is an embarrassing schizophrenic circle jerk shitshow. Shame on all of you.

>>135477913
>WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU GOING TO DO?
I'm not going to do anything, but apparently the huge, international human trafficking network that kills children that is run by billionaires is going to hunt each and every one of you down. You're all going to disappear because you know too much with your "research".

>>135477960
It's quite obvious to me that you're using shill tactics. You will turn around anything that I say to you with an ad hominem and try to make an emotional appeal out of it.

>>135478168
You didn't address a single thing I said.

Occam's Razor ruins this whole bullshit thread.

>>135478273
You don't make any actual points you just pass off logical fallacies as though you know what you're talking about. You also haven't addressed my most recent point either about the very tactics I just called you out on.

>>135477566
Find places around the US/World that would be used for the different kinds of trafficking.
Find connections from known/arrested/suspected human traffickers to other people, locations, and companies.
Determine who is trustworthy in using information to make arrests and return children to their families.
Identify NGO's involved in areas where people are found to be missing.
Identify celebrities and politicians with ties to organizations and people who are arrested for trafficking.
Potentially go to specific locations in person to document vehicles or buildings which we have reason to suspect.
Learn the places and types of transport we can watch for suspicious activity in person, in case we see something go down.
Develop connections with people who may know dealers of drugs or other items in person and on the deep web who may have hints about people involved in worse crimes.

Lots of potential ways to slowly close in on this.

>>135478464
>You don't make any actual points you just pass off logical fallacies as though you know what you're talking about.
That's this whole fucking thread an all of you "connections". you call it that because you know you can't call it "evidence".

As for "shill tactics" is some other bullshit you made up to continue your paranoid fantasy.

Address this: How do you explain a vast, murderous human trafficking network that kills children that you supposedly "exposed" yet there isn't anyone hunting, kidnapping and killing all of you?

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>>135478147

Why are you still here?

Protip: Milk/gas trucks
That's all I can say about that, but if you ahve any questions I might be able to answer, shoot.

>>135478814
Are these ghost fleets usually located more in rural areas or industrial ones?

>>135478939
>Ghost fleets
It's mostly trucks from known shipping companies that aren't currently in use, except for the gas ones for obvious reasons.
Depots aren't in any areas specifically. I don't know how locations are chosen.

>>135478681
Well for one dumbass we're anonymous and two you seem to think that killing us all wouldn't leave a massive blood trail that wouldt raise the eyebrows of anyone in law enforcement or on our side in general. Nothing you say phases me so just give up and leave already please.

>>135478646
>Find places around the US/World that would be used for the different kinds of trafficking.
How the shit do you determine this? From what I seen, you guys just make shit up from pictures on Google maps. "Could" does not mean "Is" used for human trafficking.
>Find connections from known/arrested/suspected human traffickers to other people, locations, and companies.
By a few degrees of separation you are "connected" to human traffickers.
>Determine who is trustworthy in using information to make arrests and return children to their families.
Have you ever done this or are you starting shit with the law enforcement agencies that actually help children in these situations?
>Identify NGO's involved in areas where people are found to be missing.
Why not base it on tooth paste sales or how many dentists are in an area or any other irrelevant criteria?
>Identify celebrities and politicians with ties to organizations and people who are arrested for trafficking.
Like what? again, I've seen bullshit evidence like people ordering pizza and you shits freaking out on "WHAT DOES HE MEAN BY PIZZA?!?!"
>Potentially go to specific locations in person to document vehicles or buildings which we have reason to suspect.
And you said you don't harass innocent people.
>Learn the places and types of transport we can watch for suspicious activity in person, in case we see something go down.
More paranoid, baseless accusations and speculations.
>Develop connections with people who may know dealers of drugs or other items in person and on the deep web who may have hints about people involved in worse crimes.
Same as above.

You guys are doing shit for actual human trafficking around the US and the world. This thread is garbage.
>Lots of potential ways to slowly close in on this.
By "slowly" you mean never, ever do anything of substance.

>>135478706
There are people outside your house anon. They are watching.

>>135479100
Can you give any estimate of how far these ghost fleets are stationed away from the locations that they get the people from? I assume they would try to get the "product" to the ghost fleets within a 48 hour time frame.

>>135479125
>Well for one dumbass we're anonymous and two you seem to think that killing us all wouldn't leave a massive blood trail that wouldt raise the eyebrows of anyone in law enforcement or on our side in general. Nothing you say phases me so just give up and leave already please.
You're not anonymous. You can easily be found.
And you claim law enforcement would notice how you neckbeards disappearing is part of some vast conspiracy but apparently not child trafficking and thousands of people being murdered.

What a rock of shit.

>>135479426
Then tell me what you would do.

>>135479336
Where the shit did this term "ghost fleets" come from? Again, you guys are just making up shit.

>>135477457
This one Shill in particular seems upset

>>135479426
>>135479474
What's the matter, did someone start perusing near one of your suppliers?

>>135479336
It's not fleets as much as it is people in shipping companies who are put there to "loan" out trucks when they're needed.
As I said, I don't know how locations are chosen.

>>135479458
You can volunteer for a local anti-human trafficking organization that supports victims and helps them escape. But honestly, you're all so paranoid and strange you'd probably do those people more damage.

Human trafficking is a huge problem, but ask yourselves, are you actually helping? Are you putting in a lot of effort for absolutely nothing and harassing innocent people? Are you causing harm?

There are people that fight human trafficking, but what they do is extremely different than what you guys are doing.

>>135477282
It's funny you say that, I'm ordering JJ's right now

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>>135479187
>"Could" does not mean "Is" used for human trafficking.
Doesn't mean "isn't" either
>By a few degrees of separation you are "connected" to human traffickers.
I know, isn't that interesting? I'd love to know who they are.
>Have you ever done this or are you starting shit with the law enforcement agencies that actually help children in these situations?
Pic related
>Why not base it on tooth paste sales or how many dentists are in an area or any other irrelevant criteria?
Because NGO's work in areas like Haiti where children go missing after natural disasters. See pic
>Like what? again, I've seen bullshit evidence like people ordering pizza and you shits freaking out on "WHAT DOES HE MEAN BY PIZZA?!?!"
There's a huge number of people who were arrested for sexual abuse in Hollywood and afterward went right back to molesting kids. People revealed in interviews and documentaries by people like Corey Feldman who suffered from these individuals.
>And you said you don't harass innocent people.
Taking pictures isn't harrassment
>More paranoid, baseless accusations and speculations.
So baseless that someone in San Antonio just saved a truckload of people by responding to a crazy dehydrated person at 12:30 am in Walmart
>Same as above.
I know drug dealers and gang members in person. Who knows who they might meet
>You guys are doing shit for actual human trafficking around the US and the world. This thread is garbage.
>By "slowly" you mean never, ever do anything of substance.
Cool. Fuck off and let me waste my time in peace.

>>135479526
They are coming for you.

>>135478814
Gas trucks? How does that work anon? What would they put inside of them?

>>135479599
So that bust in San Antonio was probably a "loaned" trailer then. The driver might not have even known what he was transporting.

>>135479599
So do the traffickers own the vehicles used in ghost fleets or are they just renting them whenever they need them?

>>135479696
This topic really grinds your gears, huh

>>135479785
Haha get a load of this kid diddler trying to threaten me

>>135479772
It's a waste of time talking to these pedophiles, better to filter and ignore.

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>>135478646
I generally agree with this, but it seems that the obvious place to start is with the known, existing criminals involved in trafficing, rather than blindly looking for suspicious infrastructure. I imagine that you're more likely to find drug smugglers than human trafficking, not that that's a bad thing by any means.

>>135479100
If somebody's going around making a bunch of slaves or corpses dissapear, it's probably not that much of a stretch for them to make some anon dissapear as well.

>>135477676
I have an issue with how broad the search scope is, and the basis on which he's generating leads to begin with.

>>135479474
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but the only people using anything resembling fleets of trucks at all are coyote illegal immigrant smugglers, and drug smugglers.

>135479696
I'm a bit curious. What do they do?

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>>135479811
I'm talking about these. They're used like normal but instead it's people and supplies instead of gas. The gas ones are the only ones that are specifically used for people instead of being a normal truck "borrowed" from a nearby company. There aren't that many of them,. and I'm not sure why they're used specifically.

brb like 10 minutes while I eat.

>>135479772
>Doesn't mean "isn't" either
That's a terrible way to investigate. How do you know you're not murdering people and involved in human trafficking? Just because you claim you aren't, doesn't make it true. Do you know what you're doing when you're sleeping at night?
>Because NGO's work in areas like Haiti where children go missing after natural disasters. See pic
you can't imagine why a child would go missing after a natural disaster like a mudslide, hurricane, flash flood or earth quake in a place like Haiti? Really?
>Taking pictures isn't harrassment
It can be if you're calling an innocent person a pedophile and murderer and you're posting their businesses and pictures online. That is the definition of harassment.
>So baseless that someone in San Antonio just saved a truckload of people by responding to a crazy dehydrated person at 12:30 am in Walmart?
Don't take responsibility for some else's smart thinking. That wasn't /pol/tards or redditfags.

>>135479961
>but the only people using anything resembling fleets of trucks at all are coyote illegal immigrant smugglers, and drug smugglers.
All truck drivers are illegal immigrant smugglers and drugs smugglers? What's wrong with you?

>>135479930
I like how they won't leave even when you say "this doesn't affect you, you can leave the thread." They keep pestering like they're paid to do so.

>>135479961
>the only people using anything resembling fleets of trucks at all are coyote illegal immigrant smugglers, and drug smugglers.
Right, it's usually for the less valuable people. OP stopped including this in the intro, but:

Government: taken individually, would need to be selected beforehand, probably taken in cars/private planes
Corporation/Business: may be individually like above if special, otherwise more mass transport (buses) or even turned into organs first if it's just experimentation
Criminal: most abusive, likely to be handled roughly or en mass, boats/buses/planes/trucks, coolers if organs. Sex slaves may be handled well if they're pre-selected for high-paying clients with specific taste
Cult: also likely to be abused and in mass transport like Criminal. However, could be treated decently if the aim was indoctrination (transport in buses, kept in school-like places)
Intel Agencies: Individual is likely. Transport by car or plane, perhaps heavy training and indoctrination
Breeding/Harvesting Farms: highly abusive and mass transport. Trucks/ships/planes, coolers for organs. Little care for health
Hollywood: Like Gov/Cult, probably individually in cars/limos and treated well, at least physically/in the public eye.

http://imgur.com/a/HYTyg

>>135480063
This doesn't make much sense to me, why try to pack people into a vehicle not made for it when semis and buses are much easier?

>>135479961
>I'm a bit curious. What do they do?
Maybe you should find out, but you guys have to change the way you do things. Again, what you do could cause more harm rather than help the people who fight human trafficking.

Many organizations help prostitutes escape their pimps, or law enforcement agencies investigate and raid factories and warehouses keeping illegal immigrants as practical slaves.

You guys act like whole children going missing isn't major news. Children rarely "disappear" in this age of smart phones and security cameras everywhere. It doesn't mean it can't happen, but they usually get caught.

There's a lot you can do, but what is going on in these threads is more about your entertainment than helping people.

>>135480063
Interesting, I hadn't thought about using a gas truck trailer and converting it. I wonder why they'd use that and in under what circumstances.

Can you tell us anything about different networks? What differentiates them, maybe some names?

You wanna be a real bro and drop a location or two for us to snoop around at?

>>135480685
Paid, or blackmailed and forced to be here

>>135480685
Ah, you're right I forgot to add it. Think it's too long for the op but I can start adding it in another post because that does help a lot.

>>135480685
>I like how they won't leave even when you say "this doesn't affect you, you can leave the thread." They keep pestering like they're paid to do so.
So someone is paying me to argue with your stupid ideas and they can kidnap and murder people but again, they aren't hunting you down?

>>135480063
>The gas ones are the only ones that are specifically used for people instead of being a normal truck "borrowed" from a nearby company. There aren't that many of them,. and I'm not sure why they're used specifically.
>blah blah blah, I'm making shit up

>>135479711
What's JJ?

>>135480776
>I wonder why they'd use that and in under what circumstances.
They don't.
>Can you tell us anything about different networks? What differentiates them, maybe some names?
He doesn't know anything. He's making shit up.

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Thought I'd start cruising up and down the border to look for places. This is in San Diego:

https://www.google.com/maps/@32.5514332,-116.9913927,221m/data=!3m1!1e3

Southwest of here is a mountainous area where it would be easy to have tunnels or something of that sort running under the border. You could then sneak people into this area (at night) where there are all kinds of shipping corporations and load them up. Also just north of this area in the screenshot is a small airport where people could also be loaded up and shipped out to any part of the country where a network had other branches.

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>>135479283

I think you have me mistaken for someone else. I wave at those people in the black SUV, they seem nice.

There must be good reception or something, they park here all the time and get on their little laptops.

I was going to offer them coffee yesterday morning, but they waved and drove off.

>>135481094
>>135481013
This seems totally natural and not paid for.

>>135480320
>That's a terrible way to investigate. How do you know you're not murdering people and involved in human trafficking? Just because you claim you aren't, doesn't make it true. Do you know what you're doing when you're sleeping at night?
Why does it bother you that I investigate poorly? Why don't you investigate better than me, and show me all your accomplishments? Please show me what you have done that is better than all our work.
>you can't imagine why a child would go missing after a natural disaster like a mudslide, hurricane, flash flood or earth quake in a place like Haiti? Really?
Do you really think I meant that ALL missing children were taken by NGO's? Of course many died in other ways. Don't pretend to be stupid.
>It can be if you're calling an innocent person a pedophile and murderer and you're posting their businesses and pictures online. That is the definition of harassment.
Well it's good that I haven't blamed anyone for anything yet.
Make up your mind- am I just posting useless pictures of trucks and warehouses? Or am I threatening and harassing people?
>Don't take responsibility for some else's smart thinking. That wasn't /pol/tards or redditfags.
I didn't say that we did that. I aim to emulate that person and respond correctly should the situation befall me, and help spread awareness so that other may act accordingly as well.

>>135481195
You should be worried about the paid butchers who kill the children in the BBQ places anon.

>>135481167
How far is the place from they might be getting the people? I'm trying to figure out how long of a distance the "product" travels until it gets to these ghost fleets.

>>135480876
Why would they hunt me down if my research is a useless waste of time and I suck and posting pics of buses is dumb?

Shouldn't we inject this topic into the forefront of progressives?

If this subject is forced into the public eye, progressive sjw types will have to foam at the mouth "For the children!" thus turning their focus away from bullshit identity politics and utilizing their loud mouths to force government crack down on these types of organizations.

At least it seems like that can happen.

>>135481282
Why are BBQ places such an outlandish idea to you?
There's reason for biological material to be around
They get shipments of "meat" on a regular basis
Their contact info is easily found so it's not hard to coordinate

>>135481366
The progressives don't think for themselves in the first place most of the time. One of their ringleaders will spin it in some way to get them to fight our cause I believe.

>>135481249
>Why does it bother you that I investigate poorly?
Because of the harm you cause by being an idiot and ruining innocent people's lives. BBQ restaurants and truck drivers, people with real lives and jobs are collateral damage of your witch hunt calling people pedophiles and murderers.

You can't see how that's a problem?

>>135481326
San Diego has a number of tunnels running under the border. They usually move drugs in them but they might move people too for all I know. I just noticed this collection of shipping companies next to another steel yard so I zeroed in on that. Their proximity to uninhabited hill area along the border and an airport was interesting. I don't think a ghost fleet would be there, but I bet somewhere along the border they have some staging areas to whip people on to the next stop.

>>135481366
We could literally find footage of Hillary fucking kids and I bet you that a certain part of the population could still be convinced to defend her.

>>135481249
>Make up your mind- am I just posting useless pictures of trucks and warehouses? Or am I threatening and harassing people?
Honest, innocent people work at those shipping centers and warehouses. Yes, you are harassing people. You don't seem to understand what a shitshow it causes when you just accuse someone of people a pedo for no reason.

>>135481489
There's no reason to reply to this guy anymore, he is constantly shifting the basis of his argument and will try to scare you into thinking people are trying to kill us while shifting into a narrative that aims at guilt tripping us. It's total double think.

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How much more time are you going to waste on this pathetic LARP?

>>135481627
desu it's a little weird how little we have been getting shilled the last two days, always makes me feel like they are planning something.

>>135481483
So shouldn't we package this topic with emotionally drawing facts and have it contain easily digestable means and goals and send it out to all progressive ringleaders?

At the very least we'd find out who's an authentic progressive and who's just being funded by corporate higherups

>>135481334
>Why would they hunt me down if my research is a useless waste of time and I suck and posting pics of buses is dumb?
because it isn't real you fucking moron. that's why these treads are terrible.

>>135480782
Ok cool, if you don't I'll try to throw it in. I like maps in the imgur link that someone dropped, too

>>135481489
What harm have we caused so far? Whose innocent life have we ruined? Names?
>inb4 Alefantis

>>135481627
>People aren't trying to kill us
Tell that to Seth Rich or that journalist who's car exploded.
I doubt they're going to go after your average 4chan poster, but actual insiders leaking info have a history of dropping dead.

>>135481453
because it's baseless? You can't just make shit up and call it "evidence".
>Their contact info is easily found so it's not hard to coordinate
what are you coordinating? That's why this is harassment.

>>135481567
>number of tunnels running under the border.
Huh, this is interesting. Any you can see on Maps/Earth?

>>135481709
They are planning to get you.

>>135481713
Perhaps, but we should really focus on that later. It's not something to delve into right now.

>>135481759
>What harm have we caused so far? Whose innocent life have we ruined? Names?
Some other anon posted this article:
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/4wbeyj/the-online-conspiracy-theories-about-a-salt-lake-city-daycare
Seems pretty self explanatory. You really think there is no harm in accusing people and businesses of killing children in some human trafficking ring?

>>135481853
No but here are a few articles. I think normally they run to warehouses on the US side but I was also thinking that they might have a few running into this wilderness area.

http://archive.is/SSk49
http://archive.is/TUZ5Q

>>135481910
Say my name bitch

>>135481924
Okay

But their attention can garner outside help and actual funding for the subject matter

Just a thought

>>135482337
Do you mean on 4chan or the public in general?

>>135482307
That sinking feeling
The black darkness outside

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>>135482881
Look at you larping like a little faggot because you are all worked up about us looking for trafficking network infrastructure.

Day of the rope soon pederast.

>>135483288
just stay calm.

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>>135483334
>31 posts by this ID
>telling me to stay calm

kek

>>135482033
Forgot about that place. But it's not just people on here that were suspicious and curious about something. Look at the whole No Evidence RussiaBurger right now.
So I understand your point and I still don't advocate for harassing people (prefer to give info to authorities and they may pursue if they think it's valid), but privately looking at a place and taking pictures doesn't seem like harassment to me.
So I'm going to keep working on this, and remind you that you may leave the thread at any time.

has anyone looked into Dubuque Iowa? There's a place called 'Auto and Truck Parts' around Jackson and 30th in an abandoned church with a fleet of trucks out back. Easy discreet access to the highway leading north out of town. Town is on the Mississippi and close to Madison, Milwaukee, Chicago...historic presence of monastic orders and a big masonic presence in the town

Just curious if Dubuque has popped up in anyone's research

http://www.kwwl.com/story/22210071/2013/05/Thursday/local-and-federal-agents-swarm-dubuque-business

http://www.kcrg.com/content/news/Two-arrested-in-Dubuque-on-prostitution-charges-421079234.html

also, there are two casinos in Dubuque and the town across the river in Illinois, East Dubuque, is famous for prostitution since the days of Prohibition

>>135483841
>So I understand your point and I still don't advocate for harassing people (prefer to give info to authorities and they may pursue if they think it's valid), but privately looking at a place and taking pictures doesn't seem like harassment to me.
It is harassment if you post the pictures online and say online "This place might be where they kill children and sexually abuse them".
You're crossing the line from a "amateur photographer" to a person committing a crime that does real damage to innocent people.

All of this shit is archived and Hirohito will give you IP to law enforcement or lawyers if requested.

http://www.kwwl.com/story/35354043/2017/05/Friday/update-2-charged-with-human-trafficking-after-prostitution-arrests

hmmm

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>>135484282
>32 posts
Why are you so upset?

>>135484282
Stop harassing me

>>135484965
keep posting stupid shit online faggot.

>>135484282
Everyone please stop responding to this guy, he's accomplishing what he was sent here to do by distracting everyone and frustrating them. There is no way to come out on top in an argument with him as their nothing but baseless insults hidden as arguments. You giving him satisfaction by arguing and replying to him. The only way to deal with him is to just ignore him please.

>>135485085
>Everyone please stop responding to this guy, he's accomplishing what he was sent here to do by distracting everyone and frustrating them.
you mean someone posting the sad hard truth to your bullshit? No one sent me.

You just can't handle reality.

>>135476477
Checked, your right to be skeptical but the late great Phil Schnieder talked about this back in the 90s. He has two videos on YouTube, they are both worth a watch, sorry I don't have links.

>>135485487
If it's all bullshit then tell me what area you live in. If it's all bullshit then I could never find what looks like a distribution center, a ghost fleet, or whatever because according to you they don't exist. And they certainly not in your area because your clearly not a pedophile right? So come on big man, what city do you live in? Tell me or you prove yourself to be nothing but a total fucking coward to everyone here. I know you won't though because you're just that scared.

>>135485711
>If it's all bullshit then tell me what area you live in.
I know there's human trafficking in my area. It makes it in the news and there is a local effort to suppress it. We have prostitutes, illegal aliens and homeless teenagers.

None of it is like the total dogshit you describe and make up like in this thread.
>If it's all bullshit then I could never find what looks like a distribution center, a ghost fleet, or whatever because according to you they don't exist.
The "ghost fleet" shit is your fantasy. Distribution centers aren't moving people but shit for you local Wal-mart and other stores. You've just invented that they are moving people and have no basis or no evidence for a claim otherwise.

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>>135485711
Chequed, these assholes talk a lot of shit but never throw down when challenged

>>135485984
I can't believe you actually fell for that. You answered exactly how I knew you would. You didn't know how to respond ti that did you? You can't give any other explanation as to how human trafficking works, you clearly have an agenda that's in their favor. I just want to make that evident for everyone here so we can get past you and move on.

>>135486194
What am i supposed to throw down on? You guys harass and doxx small family businesses that own pizza restaurants and BBQ places because you see trucks parked near by on google maps.

Why the fuck would I post any personal info for you schizophrenics to see?

>>135486361
yeah yeah, all part of your plan to expose a giant conspiracy of monstrous people who kill children but somehow they aren't going to kill you. You're a dumbass and you have proof of nothing.

>>135486497
Do you know the difference between a missing persons case and a murder case? I don't think you do.

>>135486581
Do you know the difference between delusion, fantasy, speculation, conjecture and actual fucking facts?

>>135486760
You're an idiot. I just pointed out every flaw in the arguments you've made and you even managed to make an emotional appeal against you. You speak of facts yet can't give one to disprove anything here. The longer you stay here the worse I'm going to make you look.

>>135486898
and even I managed to*

>>135486898
you haven't pointed out shit about my argument and I have nothing to disprove because you have no facts. you have no evidence. you have shit.

Pictures of trucks isn't proof of human trafficking and making up a term like "ghost fleets" isn't making an argument or evidence.

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Anyone else think it's time for a coffee break?

>>135487053
Points made, I just wanted to show people what you really are so that they see that you're not worth paying any attention to. You guys fail at any type of psychological warfare you attempt against me.

>>135487113
I'm up for making another thread after this if people are still on board as well.

>>135487196
>I just wanted to show people what you really are so that they see that you're not worth paying any attention to
I gave you inconvenient facts and you instructed your paranoid buddies to ignore them.

>>135487196
>You guys fail at any type of psychological warfare you attempt against me.
who do you think I am. be specific.

>>135487350
Fine i'll pick apart your arguments even further. Name one fact, right now. A fact that disproves one of the claims made thus far.

>>135487385
A paid shill or a pedo, possibly both.

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You know you're near a bad area when you see these bars of soap in Hotels.

The bars of soap have a message on the wrapper, " Do you feel threatened? Are you being forced into prostitution ? "

>>135487457
Woah, I've never seen those before.

>>135487438
Parked trucks and pizza restaurants are not evidence of human trafficking.

You made up the term "ghost fleets".

You are paranoid.

Facts.

>>135487618
Yeah, that there now makes every point you've made evidently invalid as you answered every single on with an ad hominem. What's even sadder is that I left holes in my rebuttals on purpose to see if you picked up on them and you didn't even manage to do that. You just reverted to your scripted tactics, showing that you're not even trying to win an argument you're purely trying to insult and discourage.

>>135481713
I think it's more important above all to have high quality evididence, preferably actionable shit.

>>135487217
We're nowhere near bump limit.

>>135487385
Someone who saw Pizzagate go from suspicious emails, to some dude losing his shit entirely, and is honestly concerned about this going full Chemtrails.

>>135487828
this is somehow dumber than chemtrails and is harmful to innocent people,

>>135485984

It's true- women aren't really being shipped around in trucks. I'm sure that there's sick shit going on though, but if you guys are just using aerial view to look for places where truck trailers get parked.. eesh.. that's not gonna tell you much.


Backpage is full of underage girls forced into prostitution. Around here there are groups that trade those girls around constantly to keep the cops or their parents from finding them. Up and down the west coast they are kept on the move. I worked one trial where a girl was snatched up from a party, they got her hooked on heroin and turned her out at 13 years old. Backpage was the site used to sell her.

So, start looking at areas with GANG ACTIVITY. And these places aren't just the inner cities, they're spreading influence everywhere. Cartels from the south, and black gangs from the cities.


Here's a thread on arf where a bunch of cops went into the statistics of human trafficking. Turns out a lot of it is inflated so funds can get shuffled around for 'programs', a lot of the people 'trafficked' are prostitutes who as soon as they can, go back to hooking. (and the pimps were- guess what- gang members)

https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1992137_Illegal_alien_andamp_quot_sex_slaveandamp_quot__gets_visa_from_Sanctuary_for_Families_to_remain_in_the_USA.html


And here's some lolbertarian blog that gives some good info:
http://reason.com/blog/2017/05/31/operation-big-bad-john-hits-san-diego

>>135488243
Point made, but again nothing you said there disproved that they aren't transported in trucks. You can't use info from a different aspect and use it disprove the other when there's no contrary evidence presented in a comparison of the two. Nothing you just presented shows that both can't be the case.

>>135488243
These guys don't want to actually stop human trafficking. They just want to call pizza places and scream that they are killing children.

This thread is just schizophrenic entertainment.

>>135488456
>Point made, but again nothing you said there disproved that they aren't transported in trucks.
nothing you said proved they are transported in trucks fuckhead.

>>135449898

BUMP

>>135487524
>Woah, I've never seen those before.

And yet here you are propping yourselves up as experts on human trafficking.

>i'm just ribbing you a bit, don't get salty

The question you guys have to ask yourselves is- do you want the /x/ style adrenaline rush of investigating a shadowy multinational conspiracy, with Ghost Fleets (catchy name.. this will keep spreading on that alone, I guarantee it) of trucks moving human cargo around to supersoldier facilities and breeding farms? It's like something out of one of those Dulce Base / Area 51 horror stories that people passed around as true accounts in the 80s/90s. And I loved reading that stuff, spoopy as hell. So did other people.

Or are you interested in investigating trafficking for real, for what it is and isn't? That might be dangerous, might require resources you don't have, etc. Can't just scroll around on aerial view maps and draw lines and feel like a good armchair investigator.

>>135488512
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/07/23/smuggling-tragedy-8-found-dead-hot-truck-texas-parking-lot/502750001/

Take this and go fuck yourself with it. Goodbye.

>>135488512
>They just want to call pizza places and scream that they are killing children.

No one is actually doing that, c'mon now. This is a bit /x/ish but the hearts are in the right place.

>>135488596
Ad hominems, just like the other guy.

>>135487618
If there are trucks like the one in San Antonio, what makes you think there aren't more around? There could have been several right down the road. What's wrong with calling that idea a ghost fleet?

>>135488681
again, you are acting like trucks and trucking companies are moving people. This is a single incident, among many, but you are taking it way the fuck out of context especially with this pizzagate derivative shit.
>>135488705
they are.

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>>135488681

I was actually just thinking about that! I was going to say that yeah, people DO get moved in trucks, but usually over the border. This seems like a fuckup situation, not sure how it connects to the human trafficking networks you guys are theorizing.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/24/us/san-antonio-trailer-migrants/index.html

>A federal complaint shed light on the ordeal. One man from Mexico, who crossed the border through Laredo, Texas, said he and his brother traveled for a day before they climbed into the tractor-trailer; another man said he spent nearly 11 days at a Laredo "stash house" with about two dozen others before their journey on the semi.

Why.. why did they get into this semi once they were already over the border? Once illegals are over the border they don't exactly need to hide.

>>135488949
Archived
https://archive.is/MDron

>>135488788
>What's wrong with calling that idea a ghost fleet?
http://www.webmd.com/schizophrenia/tc/types-of-schizophrenia-topic-overview

>>135488824
Explain how Tyson got caught then. That's a big company you know. Not a single incident.

>>135489046
you aren't an investigator helping people in human trafficking. You're a paranoid idiot on 4chan with google maps. You aren't helping anyone.

>>135488824
>they are.

So wait, they've found small town truckstops where there's a restaurant and a motel and a few gas stations and they're calling up the pizza restaurants there?

>>135488788
>If there are trucks like the one in San Antonio, what makes you think there aren't more around? There could have been several right down the road. What's wrong with calling that idea a ghost fleet?

I genuinely hope there are fleets of trucks moving around the US, killing loads of illegal border hoppers in the back from heat exhaustion. I really do.

That's honestly a cooler use of the name Ghost Fleet than the human trafficking breeding facility super soldier cloning hub theory.

>>135489149
>So wait, they've found small town truckstops where there's a restaurant and a motel and a few gas stations and they're calling up the pizza restaurants there?
yes and they drive around them and take pictures and post them on here. They believe these places are harming children and they feel righteous about doing something about it.

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>>135488824
>This is a single incident
Even CNN admits trafficking like this happens frequently

>>135488949
Thanks for the Backpage info
If illegals need to get up to a specific city they might agree to go with someone like this for cheap

>>135489144
>not an argument

>>135489261
I'm not saying it doesn't happen and it isn't a problem, I'm just saying the bullshit in this thread isn't helping and it's fucking stupid.

>>135489261
>Even CNN admits trafficking like this happens frequently

Oh, people being moved in trucks is extremely common. I'm working on a journalism site for border problems so I can help educate people about the problems the media is covering up.

It's just that they get in the trucks on one side of the border and get out on the other side of the border. Sometimes +/- 50 miles to avoid inland border patrol. Once they're in the US, they use normal means to get around.

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>>135489336
You've been here for hours.

For what purpose?

>>135489391

What happened to /pol/ where people are so suspicious of anyone who disagrees with them?

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>>135489336
>I'm just saying the bullshit in this thread isn't helping and it's fucking stupid.
Then leave and stop wasting your time. Take some screenshots of your (yous) and then if/when we get caught screaming at pizza places again, you can brag abut how right you were.

>>135489388
What is normal means then? Why don't those normal means include vehicle transportation? Can you make an argument that would show that it wouldn't make sense for them to do that?

>>135489391
you might as well use a tripcode. I know your shitass avitar posting from every one of these threads. You've been here too. The difference is, I'm pointing out the horseshit.
>>135489472
it's an echo chamber on /pol/ and this is the most /x/ tier thread there is.

BTW if anyone is interested in being part of a solution to a very real problem, and you live near the Southern border, come check this thread out:

>>135476296

I won't even question your motivations if you disagree with me or come to different conclusions than I do- as I am an oldschool /new/sman, and not a newfag

You can help document violence near the border in between scrolling around on google satellite. BTW, if there's really a big conspiracy, what makes you think they wouldn't edit anything important out of the satellite views, like they do for sensitive areas?

>>135489388
Any articles or info on the cities/companies/gangs that are helping transport them?

>>135489499
>Then leave and stop wasting your time.
No. You stop spreading lies and harassing people while pretending to be some hero stopping human trafficking.

>>135489618
>it's an echo chamber on /pol/ and this is the most /x/ tier thread there is.

Fuck, you remember how we all got rickrolled by dead babies after BadSelfEater?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bc0MAwp22Rg&feature=youtu.be

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>>135489618
>not liking cute anime girls
Can't help you there.

>>135489472
Spooky family.

>>135489625
>if there's really a big conspiracy, what makes you think they wouldn't edit anything important out of the satellite views, like they do for sensitive areas?
They wouldn't have to hide it if it looks like normal warehouses and rows of semi trucks. People normally aren't suspicious of those, because they're USUALLY for what they appear. But they can be used for nefarious cargo (people, drugs, weapons, etc). Sometimes they used to be used for normal stuff and got repurposed.

>>135489801
lol, i saw that coming.

>>135489664

Cartels on the border don't really mess with human cargo, but they make the coyotes pay taxes. Coyotes are usually a very generational thing. Like a family business. Not very connected to anyone or anything else.

>>135489801
You're just going to ignore me eh? Says something about you.

>>135489710
>No I won't leave
Then I'm going to stop replying to you, and you'll have done nothing but distract me for a few hours. You can screech all you like that we're not accomplishing anything of note, but neither are you.

>>135489913

Hold on, what did I miss? I hope you won't hold my reply count against me here.