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Hitler was not a good man. Let's put aside the Holocaust

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Hitler was not a good man. Let's put aside the Holocaust for a minute, because I know it's a contentious topic on /pol/. He is still guilty for invasion of neighboring countries.

Think about it: What could he possibly have expected to come from invading Poland? The UK and France to just say "okay, yeah, that's perfectly fine Hitler, go ahead and violate our treaties and take that land, no problem. You are the Great One, after all." Please. Hitler was at least as guilty as everyone else for the war, and he DID start it.
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Poland thought their jewish overlords could shield them while they abused the shit out of German cities handed to them after WW1

Just seeing the looks on their faces as they were overcome and destroyed was worth any of the consequences there after

It really is the little things
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>>135444197
>German cities handed to them after WW1
I was under the impression that the Poles themselves rose up, and that subsequent plebiscites had determined the German-Polish border.
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>>135443283
>"okay, yeah, that's perfectly fine Hitler, go ahead and violate our treaties and take that land, no problem. You are the Great One, after all."

That's exactly what he thought
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>>135443283
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>>135443283
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>>135444645
LITTLE
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>>135443283
>>135444579
>>135444645
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>>135443283
I love it when the poorly educated normies come in to teach you how to suck an egg.
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>>135443283
he tried being diplomatic with poland in order to gain access to east prussia, they refused multiple times, eventually he said fuck it and invaded
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Here's a real redpill for you: Hitler was baited in attacking Poland. It's what England and France wanted, and they used idiot Poles as cannon fodder to accomplish it.

Shift to today, where now idiot Ukrainians are being used as fodder to goad Putin into war.

You have to hand it to them, they really know how to maximize the use of a Slav...
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>let's forget about all that clay taken from them after WW1
Fuck off kike.
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>>135443283
I know people on /pol/ love to suck his dick, he was totally clueless when it came to military strategy. He lost the war for Germany.
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>>135444197
Does it really feel so great to go around with so much hatred that you feel that tens of millions of deaths were a good cost to see the Polish people suffer?

>>135444537
lol

>>135444579
What is this a map of? German speakers in 1918 vs 1945, as the filename suggests?

>>135444985
That's just an insult, boring.

>>135445861
Okay? My whole point is that he is responsible for the invasion. If Poland didn't want to cooperate, and he invades, the responsibility falls on Hitler, not Poland.

>>135445974
Are you saying that England and France deliberately engineered the German invasion of Poland?
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>>135446341
The lands Germany wanted were majority German, and Poland did not earn them. They were given to Poland by someone else in an unfair treaty.
Of course Germany would want those lands back, and it was obvious that this would eventually happen as far back as 1918.
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shhhhh sleepy time shhhhh
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Hitler had to knock out Poland if he wanted to go after France and Britain
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>>135446935
The only area that was majority German was Danzig, and that wasn't part of Poland. The Prussians had tried aggressively Germanizing those lands for centuries, only to end up creating a backlash that strengthened Polish nationalism and caused fence-sitting groups like the Kashubians to identify with Poland. They rose up after World War I and re-created Poland largely by themselves.
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>>135443283
Holy fuck thats the worst shillpost i have ever seen, no joke.

>guilty of defending what is yours
i know 95% of your media is zogged but come on dude, neck yourself.
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>>135443283

Funny how Britain and France managed to not declare war on the Soviet Union for doing the exact same thing.
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>>135447762
Yeah, why wouldn't you be clamoring to fight Germany AND the U.S.S.R. at once?
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>>135443283
>Think about it: What could he possibly have expected to come from invading Poland? T

Germany took back German territory.
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>>135448513
There sure were a lot of Poles living on that German territory, and for a very long time too.
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>>135448338
Neither Britain or France ever sent a single man to help defend Poland, and did not help Poland come out from the iron grip of the Soviet communists. Their guarantee of Poland was not driven by camaraderie with the Polish, but hate of the German.
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>>135446341
>Does it really feel so great to go around with so much hatred that you feel that tens of millions of deaths were a good cost to see the Polish people suffer?

The suffering of Poles is irrelevant. THey are simply animals.
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>>135446341
If you cut off all of japan's supply lines that they depend on and they start attacking you, are they the aggressor?

There's way more going on than who marched in somewhere.
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>>135445974
So redpill me on this. Due to their invasion, France became hell on earth and England was a 24/7 4th of July. It wasn't them who baited Hitler, it was the bankers and elite who were funding both sides.
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>>135448729
>There sure were a lot of Poles living on that German territory, and for a very long time too.

Maybe there were. Still German land.
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>>135443283
He was forced to do all of this by the jooz
*tips stahlhelm*
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>>135448950
Hmm, by my count, I'd say it was Polish land.
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>>135449114
>Hmm, by my count, I'd say it was Polish land.

No, German land. Land ownership is determined by the masters, not the peasants.
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>>135449261
1918-1919 begs to differ.
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>>135443283

England should have let him invade Poland the Polish were abusing the ethnic Germans. Invasion was appropriate. Jews incited the English against the Germans being encouraged with the benefits they gained over the Germans in the post WWI period
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>>135444761
could even highlight the dutch
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>>135443283
The very reason you cite for England enterring into WW2 was Poland. Tell the class what happened to Poland after WW2. That's right faggot, they let the Russians have it.
The entire premise was a complete lie.
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>>135443283
England and France didn't give a shit about Poland, they just didn't want Germany to have an empire; same shit as what happened in WWI.

After the war was over, the UK and France tossed Poland to Stalin like it was a used condom.

Also, Churchill destroyed the British Empire with his pointless vendetta against Hitler. Now the UK is being conquered by Pakis from within.

/truth
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>>135449542
>a piece of paper
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>>135443283
No Khazarian=polak, you is the reason for the most of Europe demise, ever you got chased out of old pooland and invaded central European clay. Whole 1100 years of existence.
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>>135450244
I'm referring to the Polish Uprising. The Treaty of Versailles was merely recognition of the situation on the ground. Or did you actually think Germany willingly chose to withdraw from 1/4 of their own territory because "a piece of paper" said so?
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>>135449911
finally someone with a brain. it's only about the power over europe
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>>135447325
Polak (jew) "truth's"...
Fuck of!
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>>135449676
Poland was left to the Soviet Union to manage through its recovery (which would later lead to its completely voluntary and honest participation in the Warsaw Pact) because the Soviet union was deemed too strong and too dangerous for the Western Powers to fight immediately after defeating the Germans...additionally, it doesn't look good to turn around and attack an ally of seven years after fighting a major war in which they lost tens of millions of people.
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>>135449114
Poolish land is Khazaria.
End of!
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>>135450735
>hurr

>>135450902
>durr
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>>135449261
Okay Ahmed. Show your real flag.
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>>135443283
>He is still guilty for invasion of neighboring countries.
Czechs violated the Treaty of St. Germain, stripping the German minority population there of constitutional rights -- then refused to let the Germans repatriate to the German Reich, so they were trapped. This was such a profound fuckup and violation of treaty law, that the international community let Hitler anschluss the Sudetenland; this was also to set him up in case he tried to re-unify any other Volksdeutsch (German minority populations trapped in other countries after WWI). The Polish, emboldened by promises from the British and French of "unlimited assistance" in a war with German, sent out orders on radio and newspaper to liquidate the German minority population in Danzig. By that point, there were already 80,000 German refugees in Danzig and Germany; 60,000 Germans were killed in Poland in the next two weeks before Hitler invaded. Britain and France declared war for this. Even after kicking their shit in, Hitler offered peace to Britain 16 times before the war ended -- even when Hitler was winning it.

tl;dr

you're repeating bluepilled normie propganda myths
lurk moar

>Polish massacres of ethnic Germans
https://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/deathinpoland/dp00.html
http://www.danzigfreestate.org/unknownhistory.htm
https://archive.is/MitYS
https://archive.is/JauWN
>The Jewish lobby, (((Stephen Wise))), (((Morgenthau))), and FDR
https://inconvenienthistory.com/5/2/3209
https://inconvenienthistory.com/6/2/3294
>The Jewish lobby, (((Bernard Baruch))) and Churchill's 'The Focus'
http://www.fpp.co.uk/bookchapters/WSC/Waley_Cohen.html
>Britain's promises to Poland
http://jane-griffiths-my-book.blogspot.com/2013_03_01_archive.html
http://www.worldfuturefund.org/wffmaster/Reading/History/polandbetrayal.htm
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>>135452335
Quality post
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>>135447325
>re-created Poland
>re-created
>half the country was never Polish or ever had any Poles living there, only Germans since the ice age
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>>135453038
The parts that were part of the German Empire were Polish, save for Danzig, which wasn't actually part of Poland.
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>>135452634
Thanks. Good book called 'The War with Many Fathers' that talks about all these issues in detail. They based this documentary on it:
https://youtu.be/7mA0kk29DBA
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>>135453251
>prussia was polish
Nigga, u dum.
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>>135453427
The parts of Prussia that weren't Polish remained part of Germany.
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>>135453251
No khazar, "polak truth's" again?
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>>135453597
>polak truth's
You're free to disprove them.
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>>135453585
How comes they all spoke German and were ethnically German then?
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>>135454312
Who?
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>>135452335
>>135453379

1. Poles were only 1-2% in Danzig at that time and Danzig was under German administration.
2.The Poles didn't have any Bolsheviks as there were no 'Polish Bolsheviks" at that time.
3. Do you really think that German majority city (98-99%) would allow Polish minority(1-2%) to kill civilians?
4. Where was the German police during the said act?

Stop making shit up.
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Hitler did have reason to believe that the UK and France would look away. They practiced a policy of appeasement because they were afraid to go to war with him.

Hitler's morality is also not black and white. The man was frequently beaten by his abusive father growing up, which caused him to fail to properly adjust socially. He only had one friend until he was in his twenties. His father died early in his life and his mother got cancer. The cancer treatments exhausted the funds of his estate. His mother died, he was rejected from art school, and so he was left homeless on the streets. He relied on charity in order to eat. Then he went off to WW1. He was so physically weak that he should have been rejected, but desperation caused him to be accepted. He then saw one of the bloodiest battles in the war. His regiment of 250 men was reduced to 49 men, including himself. He found a stray dog and taught it to do tricks, then a greedy merchant stole it from him. Then, after losing the war, he was imprisoned for his political agitation. The fact that Hitler didn't just kill himself back then should honestly be inspiring to everyone.
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>>135443283
The Poles were killing Germans.

The German government compiled over 300 pages of photographic evidence along with confessions of perpetrators and eyewitness testimony.

Even the poles don't deny this, they just claim that they only started killing German civilians after the war started (as if that makes things any better), even though the Germans found bodies in an advanced state of decay, which shows the genocide was going on months beforehand at least.
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>>135452335
>>135452634
>>135453379
>>135455083
>>135455916
The "slaughtering" which is known as "Bloody Sunday" occured 3 days after the Germans invaded Poland. The people they attacked were also pro-Nazi militia known as the Selbstschutz. Said militia was beaten down by the Polacks after they engaged the Polish troops first. The Germans decided to use this as propaganda of "Poles murdering innocent Germans, we dindu nuffin".
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>>135443283
>>135454361
you should close this tab and navigate to the reddit tab you have open.
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>>135455083
>Poles were only 1-2% in Danzig
Considering Germans in Poland were only 2.3% of the population, this would be interesting. Source please, I'd love to add it to my notes.
>Danzig was under German administration
Under administration by the League of Nations, with a Polish garrison. By the time of invasion, the Poles had doubled the number of troops in violation of treaty, and shut down the railways connecting to the Reich; the Poles controlled and administered all transport and communications in the Danzig Corridor.
>Do you really think that German majority city (98-99%) would allow Polish minority(1-2%) to kill civilians?
I highly doubt your numbers, and its a provable fact that they were mass murdered. Its very likely your numbers are wrong:
https://archive.is/JauWN
>Where was the German police during the said act?
Poles were the law enforcement in Gdansk at the time.
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>>135455986
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>>135455976
Shall I post the autopsy and mass grave photos, or can you read the links i posted on your own?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qAdJTHQysI
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>>135456175
>>135456262
>Considering Germans in Poland were only 2.3% of the population, this would be interesting. Source please, I'd love to add it to my notes.
It's basic knowledge, you fucking momo.

Don't expect anyone to take you seriously when you use Nazi German propaganda as your sources.
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>>135455976
Lol, this faggot didn't even read my post.

>Even the poles don't deny this, they just claim that they only started killing German civilians after the war started (as if that makes things any better), even though the Germans found bodies in an advanced state of decay, which shows the genocide was going on months beforehand at least.

See for yourself:

http://www.jrbooksonline.com/polish_atrocities.htm

The victims include women, small children and the elderly and also priests. They weren't some "militia", they were defenseless people trying to live their lives while the barbaric poles were on a rampage trying to ethnically cleanse the former German lands.
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>>135456305
Reminder that Churchill was considered a fringe warmonger who had no effect on British policy, until Hitler vindicated his views and got him elected.
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>>135456336
>It's basic knowledge
Population percentages for some random city of Europe in 1939 is never "basic knowledge", genius. Post your source please, or you're lying.
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>>135456424
>trying to ethnically cleanse the former German lands
"Former German lands" in the sense that they'd been part of Prussia and Germany from the 1700s-1900s, but inhabited mostly by Poles who rose up and broke away from the German Empire in 1918-1919.
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According to kikepedia, it was 4-11% of the city was Polish.
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>>135456751
>"Former German lands" in the sense that they'd been part of Prussia and Germany from the 1700s-1900s, but inhabited mostly by Poles who rose up and broke away from the German Empire in 1918-1919
Fook of jew=polak=khazar
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>>135456751
Yes, they'd been German lands for 200 years. That's 10 generations.

Prussia was also German in ethnicity since the middle ages, when the German crusaders drove out the pagans.

Also, the post-WW1 divisions in territory were not along ethnic lines. If they were, Poland wouldn't have had a coast. The Poles knew this and it pissed them off.
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>>135457010
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>>135455083
>3. Do you really think that German majority city (98-99%) would allow Polish minority(1-2%) to kill civilians?
The massacres were carried out by the polish military.
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>>135449911
This.
The fact that brits revere Churchill, the man who basically ended the Brittish Empire and sold his own people out to the kikes, never ceases to amuse me.
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>>135443283
One of the biggest mistake Hitler ever did was to hate the slavs.

He pretty much show his hatred to slavic people durring the war and got BTFO by slavs.

I still respect Hitler and agree with a lot of his opinions, but he was massivly proven fucking wrong by Slavs marching and dicking their women in Berlin.
Most of his generals like Manstein warned him about pissing off slavs and treating them like garbage even tho they saw you like a liberator, but he didn't listen so it was his fuck up on losing the war and everything east of Oder.
Nothing personal, addie... you ruined this world unironically due to your racism.
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>>135446341
The map is of ethnic Germans. After ww2 millions upon millions were moved west by thr soviets, many dying on the way either by disease or by soviet bullets. It was the greatest ethnic cleansing in history and a terrible crime.
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>>135446273
>totally clueless

The man had never been to a military academy in his life yet he was a hairs breadth away from conquering all of Europe. He was a fucking genius.
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>>135457069
>Yes, they'd been German lands for 200 years. That's 10 generations.
Yes, Poles had lived under German rule for 10 generations. Then they rose up.

>Prussia was also German in ethnicity since the middle ages, when the German crusaders drove out the pagans.
And the German parts of Prussia remained a part of Germany.

>Also, the post-WW1 divisions in territory were not along ethnic lines. If they were, Poland wouldn't have had a coast. The Poles knew this and it pissed them off.
I have mentioned several times ITT that Danzig was an exception. It was separated from Germany so that Poland would not be reliant on the Germans for sea access. One the Poles had completed their own port at Gdynia, there is a very good chance that Danzig would have returned to German control. Hell, had it not been for Hitler's chimp-out, Austria, Danzig, East Prussia, Pomerania and Silesia would likely be part of Germany in 2017.
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>>135457069
Hilarious.
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>>135443283
Hitler did not want war against all of Europe. He was forced to after France and Britain declared war on him. At that point he knew that for his plan he would need to deal with them or else they would pose a bigger threat later on
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>>135457488
>He was a fucking genius
Kek, what a fucking faggot...
These are some of his genius blunders that his generals (real fucking genius) were fucking shocked when God Emprah Addie interfered with them.
>Dunkirk
>Battle of Britain
>Not continuing to invade Britain
>Holding up in Smolensk and not continuing Blitz
>Holding up in Kiev
>Not sending more resources to Egypt to take Suez
>Battle of Moscow
>Fucking Stalingrad
>Fucking Kursk

Hitler was a complete brainlet on Military and Race due to his constant ego butthurt, that what costed his war.
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>>135457311
>One of the biggest mistake Hitler ever did was to hate the slavs.
Where are these bluepilled normies coming from? I can't remember the last time we had this many bluepilled newfriends...
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>>135450456
if the ydidnt sign it the agressor, i e engalnd france russia would have invaded them and taken more territory
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>hitler hated slavs
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For some reason, anons that grow up in Slavic nations can't deal with the fact that their governments lied to their grandparents. The rest of us can accept that our governments lied to us, but not Slavs for some reason.

https://youtu.be/8ra-ChcOiuU
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>>135458329
>sure, maybe a few russians (((allegedly))) died when we invaded, but look at this nice passage from my fanfic

>>135458443
When Slavs were useful to Hitler, he made up some nonsense about their "Germanic" ancestry.
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>>135458653
>I'll say whatever excuse so I can hold onto my fanfic
I can play this rhetoric games too.
>inb4 generalplan ost
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>>135456452
>no effect on British policy
British policy had been "the prevention of the emergence of a continental empire" since Napeolen, what are you talking about here, brainlet?
>until Hitler vindicated his views
you mean, "until almost ten years of lobbying for war behind the scenes, and promising Polish politicians a "blank check" of British support?

Get off my board, brainlet.
>Britain's promises to Poland
http://www.worldfuturefund.org/wffmaster/Reading/History/polandbetrayal.htm
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>>135443283
Propaganda casts the war as a simple case of Nazi German aggression, but war was inevitable, and the Germans simply chose to fight rather than be dominated and destroyed without resisting.

Remember that Germany and the USSR invaded Poland simultaneously, but Britain and France declared war only on Germany. The offence wasn't invading a European country, but being Germany.

Poland was the last remaining country between Germany and the aggressive expansionist USSR. WWI had never really ended in Eastern Europe, the USSR had been marching its way across Europe, with no signs of stopping until they had it all. International Communism was explicitly an ideology of world domination (which Nazism wasn't, but was unreasonably accused of when the victors wrote the history books).

Without something like the rise of the Nazis in Germany to defy the disarmament imposed on them by Britain and France, their inevitable fate was to be conquered by the USSR, probably starting with an ostensibly internal, but USSR-supported, Jew-led "revolution" (which was actually attempted, but didn't succeed), and finished when the revolutionaries asked for international support which amounted to a full-scale USSR invasion.

Setting aside the fact that Poland's territory included a great deal of what had recently been German territory, and therefore was full of German people, who were being oppressed and murdered by the Polish authorities, and setting aside as well the evidence that Poland was actively seeking war with Germany with provocations and attacks (at the behest of British and French allies who wanted an excuse to slap Germany down and disarm it), without taking Polish territory, they would have to wait until after the USSR took Poland and then fight to resist it in Germany's own territory.

Nobody wants to wait to be invaded, and fight among their own civilians.
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>>135458801
>so maybe you have to live as subservient peasants to us, but hey, if we decide your child is (((racially pure))) we get to take them away forever to go and become a german!

wtf i love nazis now
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>>135443283
>Let's put aside the Holocaust for a minute
But main reason why he was not a good man is that he actually didnt committed Holocaust.
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>>135459155
>what are you talking about here, brainlet?
Churchill was a "literally who" raving in the wings while the actual British government (desperate to avoid war) let Germany re-militarize the Rhineland, annex Austria and the Sudetenland, all in violation of Versailles.

>you mean, "until almost ten years of lobbying for war behind the scenes, and promising Polish politicians a "blank check" of British support?
No, I mean when, after continually appeasing Germany, Hitler still violated their agreements, even when eventually threatened with war.

>Get off my board, brainlet.
Sorry to disrupt the Nazi circlejerk, but I've got an issue with historical revisionism.
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>>135458329
Read Table talks of Hitler, but you probably believe they are forgeries because it's very anti-slavic and anti-christian and even some anti-pagan sentiment.
The fact is, they are authetetic and were confirmed by David Irving, singed by most loyal Bornam and contains evidance that holocaust didn't happen because hitler said that jewish questing will be answered with deportation after the war.

Hitler thought Russians that best of russians were killed by commie kikes. were corrupted by bolshevism fully and turned into bolshevik slave race.

Most of Hitlers true hatred towards Slavs showed true colours during the war, before the war Hitler tried to play realpolitik and try to get more allies.
What you need to understand is tha Hitler and his National Socialist party was never pan-european, pan-aryan or pan-white... but it was pan-germanic ideologie which put Germans above all else and that above all else was making east their Colonial Empire on the same levels like British India.
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>>135443283
too bad he got off scott free then, eh, schlomo >>134274420
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>>135443283

forever we love him!
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>>135443283
good and bad is subjective, he wanted homogeneous cultures, which I agree with.

ALL the problems in the world are others trying to fuck with other people, he was sick of it, he was order, but it takes chaos to deal with people without reason.

you can't argue with a chimp, he understood that. the anglos are the enemy, fucking churchill, i hate that fucking fat fuck
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>>135459577
>The fact is, they are authetetic and were confirmed by David Irving... and contains evidance that holocaust didn't happen
So we've got a motive for him to "confirm" them. That doesn't mean they're authentic. David Irving isn't particularly credible.

>above all else was making east their Colonial Empire
The two groups with the strongest motive to demonize Hitler were the elite political/banking Jews and the leadership of the Soviet Union (who had previously been allied and were growing apart during and after WW2). In their propaganda efforts they fought over who was more wronged.

Both were aggressors who had intended to crush and dominate Germany well before the Nazis rose to power (which are essentially why the Nazis were able to rise to power: the German people understood they were under attack and needed to defend themselves, so the rallied behind whoever would do so), and both were responsible for atrocities with potential to unite the civilized world against them, so both wanted to cast themselves as innocent aggrieved victims fighting a defensive war.

At times, this has led to contradictory falsifications.

We can trust basically no "discovered secret/private documents" from this period. Any of it could have been forged. After the war, people with an interest in falsifying documents seized control not only over the equipment that would have been used to produce authentic documents, but personnel who would have produced them. False documents could be absolutely indistinguishable from authentic ones.
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>>135455976
http://members.iinet.net.au/~gduncan/massacres_east.html#Poland
>Unable to stem the onrush of German forces during the invasion of their country, Polish soldiers and civilians started fleeing eastwards. It was during this flight to the east that the ethnic German civilians, resident in Poland for many years, received the full impact of the spite and hate stored up in the hearts of the retreating Polish soldiers and their civilian followers. Between September 4 and September 8, 1939, in the communities of Eichdorf, Hopfengarten and Narzheim nearBromberg the polish soldiers began an orgy of murder and rape that is beyond belief. German houses were entered and the occupants arrested and then murdered. Not all were shot, many were brutally put to death by all sorts of tools and their bodies severely mutilated. As the soldiers left to search for more German houses, their civilian helpers were left behind to plunder and steal and in most cases, to set the house on fire. Many of the German women were raped before being shot. During this retreat from the west, the Polish soldiers, together with the communist civilian irregulars, were responsible for the deaths of many thousands of German residents. At a later investigation, the testimonies of 593 witnesses established the fact that at least 3,841 named ethnic Germans were murdered by the Poles prior to the full German occupation. These revenge murders were carried out as early as April, 1939 in the Polish Corridor
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>>135462356
I really hope you are right, leaf, I hope i just bluepilled myself recently, but evidence and deeds show otherwise.
"The table talk" documents had two signatures of Borman, who was most loyal Hitler's zealot. He was such a Hitler fanatic that he would have done anything what Hitler would do. Hitler even said that anyone who is against Borman is against the State.
One of the most prevelant thing in table talks is Hitlers opinions of christianity and they are very coincide with many people memuars who personally met and worked with Hitler descibed him, from Hoffmann, Speer, Goebbels, Borman and Schroeder.
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>>135455976
From Toland's book on Hitler, page 567.
"While the professional and amateur diplomats were grasping
for a peaceful solution, the program for war proceeded
relentlessly. That noon Hitler issued the second order for
invasion, driven to this extremity (according to A.I. Berndt,
his liaison man with DNB) by a gross lie. Berndt thought
the reported number of German nationals killed by the Poles
too small and simply added a nought. At first Hitler refused to
believe such a large figure but, when Berndt replied that it
may have been somewhat exaggerated, but something
monstrous must have happened to give rise to such
stories, Hitler shouted, "They'll pay for this! Now no one will
stop me from teaching these fellows a lesson they'll never
forget! I will not have my Germans butchered like cattle!" At
this point the Führer went to a phone and, in Brandt's presence,
ordered Keitel to issue "Directive No. 1 for the Conduct of
War."

Already prepared, its opening words were tailored to fit the
moment: "Since the situation on Germany's eastern frontier
has become intolerable and all political possibilities of peaceful
settlement have been exhausted, I have decided upon a solution
by force." The attack on Poland was definitely set for the
following day, Friday, the first of September, and no action
would be taken in the West. The directive was hand-carried
to all senior commanders, who transmitted, with the greatest
possible secrecy, special orders to field commanders.
At 4 p.m. the executive order to begin the invasion was
confirmed; troops and equipment began moving up to forward
positions near the frontier..."
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>>135455976
"imultaneously, special orders
were transmitted to a special German unit on the Polish
border by the Chief of the SS Security Service. Reinhard
Heydrich had concocted a diabolical scheme - Operation Himmler -
to give Hitler a perfect excuse for launching his attack.
SD detachments disguised as Polish soldiers and guerillas would
create incidents along the border the night before the invasion.
In exactly four hours they were to attack a forestry station,
destroy a German customs building and, most important,
briefly occupy the German radio station at Gleiwitz. After
shouting anti-German slogans into the microphone the "Poles"
would retreat, leaving behind a number of dead bodies as
proof that a fight had taken place. The bodies presented
no problem. Heydrich had already selected the victims -
they were called "canned goods" - from concentration camps."
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>>135455976
Basically, even on the wiki, the ethnic rifts had been bubbling up to become conflicts for some time. Poles and Germans had been at each others' necks for some time before the war.
By the way, the fifth column theory is what the Poles allege to believe. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Sunday_(1939)#The_debate_in_scholarship
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>>135460374
HANS NOO
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>>135463453
Signature forgeries beyond the possibility of falsification takes serious skill, but is certainly something that can be and has been done.

Bormann also disappeared mysteriously until his body was found in 1972. It's possible that he was actually captured. It's fairly straightforward to make people sign things without letting them read them, making them think they're signing something else.
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>>135459246
>muh subservience
>never mind they already lived like animals under communism
Your context denial is hilarious.
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>>135464480

YES jose !
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>>135443283
Hitler's problem was never the fact that he wished to invade Poland and reclaim the borders of the old Reich. His problem was that he broke the Treaty of Munich first, which meant most people considered him untrustworthy, and humiliated Chamberlain so much in the process that he was forced to promise aid to Poland in order to not seem weak on Germany.
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>>135464993
I hope you are right, leafbro.
Being distrustful and suspicious should always main priority tho.
Table Talks has some a lot of authentic claims and it clearly sound just like what Hitler would have said, but it could also be very well made forgery.
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>>135465674
Table Talks have a seriously flawed history of falsifications, and the chain of custody from the supposed origins are broken and corrupt. They should be regarded with skepticism.

https://ffrf.org/legacy/fttoday/2002/nov02/carrier.php
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>>135466260
Thanks for the interesting source, anon.
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>>135443283
honor and glory and pride. hitler was a socialist tho, but when he comes back he will be probably learn from the past mistakes
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>>135443283
France invaded Germany in 1939 before Germany preemptively attacked Poland (which was promised the rest of Prussia for involving itself in Germany's planned destruction).
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What business did Poland have invading Soviet Ukraine and Belarus?
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>>135443283
What's you're opinion on Israel
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>>135466901
I thought Germany decided that the stubborn Poles weren't willing to cede over land with German minorities, so they took it by force, then the Brits and French decided to be interventionists.
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>>135467001
Evidence that Jews always need to have handouts and military might from others to survive.
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>>135467042
If it was about defending Poland then why didn't they declare war on the USSR as well? The British actually gave masses of weapons to the Bolsheviks during the war btw
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>>135443283
>Let's put aside the Holocaust for a minute, because I know it's a contentious topic on /pol/.

But it's not contentious at all. The holocaust is a lie. The only people who disagree are kekistani bluepills from reddit.
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The war started in 1914 you utter fucking baboon. Can't wait until you assholes go back to school.
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>>135467627
It wasn't about defending Poland. The protection guarantee was only for German aggression, it was obvious it was selective and targeted towards Germany.
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