Is there anything more pathetic than people who believe

Trump followers

>>135330266
People who come here with an actual agenda

>>135330266
The moon cult

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>highly analytical brains will defend this

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>>135330266
People who think their 6 incher is "big"

>>135330266
>sky wizard
oh, look.
an underage.

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BAB

big atheist brains

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>>135331303
>>135331381

the people who'll leap to defend the people who believe in an angry desert god who demands blood of the infidels because telling them to fuck off with their semitic wargod religion would be phobic

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(((study claims))) you should stop believing that the universe loves you and that goyim have meaning in this meaningless kike infested world

>>135330710
No, religious-brain hyper-empathetic cucks who've moved on from Christ to Marx will defend this. The problem, as the OP's article cleary states, is the people. What they believe in comes in and out of vogue, the stupidity and magical thinking remain constant.

Though I agree it's a big problem that "science" which should stand for a way of thinking anithetical to how the religious think, is not becoming championed by and infested with the religious-minded.

I will concede that Marxism is a much more socially dangerous religion that Christianity, but I believe the true way forward is to simple... physically remove... the religious-minded, rather than replace on kooky doctrine with another.

>>135331644
is now becoming*

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>>135330266

>Is there anything more pathetic than people who believe in a sky wizard?

people who write 100 books complete with citations saying one particular genocide which chiefly affected only one (((group))) only had a tally of <300k while all other genocides happened pretty much as mainstream historians allege, or are in fact underestimated like Stalin's 66 gorillion christians murdered by Genrikh Yagoda and Lazar Kaganovich.

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>>135330266
Atheists

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>>135331865
>Millennial Woes
>Skeptic
Kill yourself

>>135331303
>>135331381
>>135331873
fuck off with your strawman bullshit

>>135330834
>women who think 4" is 6"

>>135330266
Germans

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>>135331545
believing that the universe doesn't love us is just the first step in accepting kikes having any sort of power over you. is there anything more cancerous than the analytical atheist? a true analytical mind would realise existence is useless because it's all chemicals and information flows anyway so why not kill yourself

I personally think God just refers to the God we will create through technology in the next 100 years who WILL love us. but they're trying to kill christianity so we don't demand a Christian God is made and instead we get some Satanic God that can rape us

atheists may be the biggest cucks in history

>>135330266
Yea, nihilists.

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>>135330266
Religious people are enemies of reason.The lowest form of humans.

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>>135332613
I am an atheist. Deal with it.

That's some sweet pseudoscience. I look forward to the day when I am told breakfast is bad for your health alongside and article claiming breakfast is good for your health in my local bullshit news website.

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>>135332489
while this is particularly black pilled it is several steps away from the truth.
the truth is that you are god, you are the universe experiencing itself, I know I hear people all the time go "lol you're stardust but so is that piece of trash, don't flatter yourself lol" but they're cynical morons, that piece of trash can't feel, see, touch, learn, dance, create, or interact with the universe as a whole, we can, in our minds, with the very tools the universe itself gave you, and after you are done collecting information and experiences for the universe the power life force your body was borrowing to power itself returns with all of that relevant information, and the nutrients in your body get reabsorbed. things in the next 20 years or so are going to get weird as fuck though as more people start realizing this, realizing that the universe simply can't just be inert physical matter floating around for no reason.

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>>135332862

What if you follow more of a Jordan Peterson avenue, that God can be a cultural abstraction for the social contract, laws of nature, laws of physics, etc?

>>135330266
Religious people are overly emotional and irrational. wow such discovery
More news at 11

>>135330266
Can we flag this as Islamophobia?

>>135330266
>untempered empathy can be dangerous
yeah that's the biggest problem in the world today, too much empathy

>>135333259
Please expand on this

>>135330266
Yes. Being a trans. Being a leftist. Being a shit skin.

>>135330266
this explains why atheists are so eager for people to believe they're intelligent

>>135330266
As long as they'll publicly say this about Muslims too, but they won't.

>>135334016
Yeah, you're gonna wanna go to the source for that.
Listen to part one of Peterson's Biblical lecture series.

>>135333259
>inb4 Peterson is not reinventing Platonism and not realizing orthodox Christianity already subsumed that entire method of thought

>>135330834
>women who think the vagina needs any more than 4 inches

>>135330266
>religious people are overly emotional and irrational
>people who take daily mail click bait as gospel aren't

wew

>>135334448
>4 incher talking shit
But seriously, I'm sure women prefer bigger dicks naturally, but there's no way they estimate measurements properly.

>>135332164
Nigga, that's Linkara from Channel Awesome. That dude is a Christian.

>>135333259
If you take Peterson seriously hang yourself tonight

>>135330266

> " Researchers warned that untempered empathy could be dangerous.... "

Oh I'll just have to watch my untempered empathy! Wouldn't want to care too much about anyone! Oh jeez.

>>135334637
What are your critiques against him?
He's helped a lot of men get their shit together and helped make atheism gay again, whether you like him or not.

>>135330266
Yes this is true, but this applies to the vast majority of normies. Whether they are highly traditional or "progressive", they perceive the world in a very dumb manner, and are not capable of looking at it objectively to a large enough extent. Human beings are simply not as rational as we would think. Most are barely a step above animals.

>believing that the universe doesn't love us is just the first step in accepting kikes having any sort of power over you.

I fail to see how one leads to the other. If you actually think the universe "loves you", then you are the definition of a braindead normie.

>a true analytical mind would realise existence is useless because it's all chemicals and information flows anyway so why not kill yourself

Of course existence is cosmically meaningless, meaning itself is an entirely human concept. Why does life being meaningless make you want to kill yourself? I believe life has no inherent meaning, but I am not remotely suicidal and never will be. What is the point of killing yourself? You will die eventually anyways. Might as well experience existence while you have it.

>I personally think God just refers to the God we will create through technology in the next 100 years who WILL love us

You cannot create god through technology, god is by definition something that can only exist outside of our universe, as its creator. You can't create god anymore than you can be god yourself and create a new universe. Also what is you obsession with love or god loving us? Why are you such a fag who needs a big space daddy to love him?

>>135330266
People that believe they are better than religion.

This seems to describe the left more than the religious.

>>135332489
This was meant for you.

>believing that the universe doesn't love us is just the first step in accepting kikes having any sort of power over you.

I fail to see how one leads to the other. If you actually think the universe "loves you", then you are the definition of a braindead normie.

>a true analytical mind would realise existence is useless because it's all chemicals and information flows anyway so why not kill yourself

Of course existence is cosmically meaningless, meaning itself is an entirely human concept. Why does life being meaningless make you want to kill yourself? I believe life has no inherent meaning, but I am not remotely suicidal and never will be. What is the point of killing yourself? You will die eventually anyways. Might as well experience existence while you have it.

>I personally think God just refers to the God we will create through technology in the next 100 years who WILL love us

You cannot create god through technology, god is by definition something that can only exist outside of our universe, as its creator. You can't create god anymore than you can be god yourself and create a new universe. Also what is you obsession with love or god loving us? Why are you such a fag who needs a big space daddy to love him?

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>>135330266
>militant atheists have analytical brains
>religious people are too emotional
>religion people who are emotional make rash decisions such as not voting for liberal parties.

Gee I wonder who's behind this article.

>>135330266

This applies equally to the religion of Progressivism also.

>>135334743
Find me a single lecture where he clearly explains what he believes and defends his personal philosophy. Go ahead I'll wait.

>>135330266
DUH don't want to dispel the illusion completely after living a lie your whole life, might as well protect your little bubble of insanity and attack those reactionaries

>>135331644
>I will concede that Marxism is a much more socially dangerous religion that Christianity

Their so similar that it's hard to tell the difference sometimes.

>>135335278
The fuck kind of demand is this? How about you explain how he DOESN'T explain everything he says and believes you fucking loaded question asking faggot.

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I believe in Baal.

>>135333259
Why call it God?

>>135330266
Yeah. People who use the term "sky wizard"

>mfw christcucks only argument is a hat
really activates my almonds

>>135330266
Well now we know why leftists are so retarded.

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>>135330266
>religious people
l-like MUSLIMS?!?!?!? HOW INTOLERANTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

WHAT BIGOTED NEWS PRODIVER IS THIS? THEY MUST PAY

>>135330266
So liberalism is a religion, then.

>some Trump supporters

t. butthurt liberal

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>implying autieists dont have wierd dogmatic beleifs and patron saints

>>135331545
you can tell how booty bothered the guy was that made that img. i bet he got laser hair removal on his neck out of paranoia

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>>135330266
>"Religious people's minds are dominated by emotion and not analytical thinking which makes them cling to their view - even when evidence proves them wrong - a study claims."

What could qualify as "evidence" which "proves" that a given religious belief is "wrong"? Sounds nonsensical on its face.

>>135337048
voting for drumpf is wrong idiot. if you need evidence for that then... just wow

>>135330266
No. Atheists are truly pathetic losers.

>>135335278
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nyw4rTywyY0

He's a classical liberal.

>>135330266
people who believe in one and kill & rape everything they see.

>>135336090
>implying atheists are connected to each other in any way
>implying atheists share the same beliefs
>implying atheism is not just a lack of belief in traditional god(s)
The 'patron saints' you're talking about are just prominent members of the media scene who some atheists like and some atheists dislike. There is no organization, no structure, no leaders. It's simply a lack of belief for the supposed god. Why is this so hard to grasp?

>>135331545
Wow whoever made this was really asshurt

>>135337642
Ahh, the "no u" argument, good one

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>>135330266

God has given you over to your sinful ways, your heart is hardened. The Bible is a perfect record of creation, nature, mankind, even DNA and genetics.
Once you view ancient world history and current science from the perspective that the Bible is literal and accurate then everything makes sense. universe, time, human behavior, everything fits and this broader understanding just seems to fall over you.
Most of you know how the Jews have steered society for their benefit. If you think they haven't been doing the same thing with your relationship with God you're crazy, I guarantee you they have.
Personally, I take the Biblical view that there's a good group of jews and a bad group of jews and the bad group that pretty much run the world believe. We know for a fact they're into weird occult rituals. They're just on the wrong side.

>>135335310
>awaken from a lie
>it turns that everything around you is a lie
>It turns that you are also a lie

That's the price of eating from the tree of the knowledge. To be free you must trust God.

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>>135335153
it's not for me it's for other people

if you knew that this cat spent its entire life thoroughly believing that the universe loved it and it's life had purpose, wouldn't you think the universe is a better place? whats the harm. why would you want to rip that away?

atheism just seems like existential masochism people want to inflict on others

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>>135335153
>>135340721
if you want that for the cat why not for this girl too? why do you want to rip away meaning and force her to believe existence is bleak and she doesn't matter just for the sake of it

I think religion is emotionally true, existence is an amazing gift and reality has conspired to give it to us, it's very loving if you think about it and it doesn't require an intelligent creator

>>135330266
stool stuffers who post online about it.
>>135330348
your country was great before you bent over for subhuman muslim rapists. enjoy.

>>135330266
go tell that to a muslim, coward

>>135335153
>>135340914
>>135340721
all of the beauty of existence and reality is lost on the autism of the atheist. there's no justification for feeling pleasure either but nobody is lobotomizing themselves out of the autism of apleasurism why amputate yourself of a belief in existence being like a gift a loving person has given to you. so what if that gift has some poetic language surrounding it in christianity, the autism of atheism wants to strip that all away and I don't see how existence is improved by it

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>>135335153
finally Jews seem to want to rip it away from people which is the number one indicator it's probably a good thing for us we don't throw it away

>Is there anything more pathetic than people who believe in a sky wizard?
People who think religious people literally believe in a sky wizard.

>>135330266
Beats believing life was developed from nothing.

Atheists believe that the universe was created out of nothing. I mean what kinda shit is that? How come nothing become something? It defies everything you learned in School. 0 cannot equal to 1.

The universe is made out of energy. Energy cannot be created or destroyed.

Believing in a more advanced life form isn't that stupid when you think about it. For all you know, we are in some Scientist's test tube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJDgVlv55Uw

>>135330348
fpbp

>>135341457
You can get that religious feeling of awe and inspiring beauty without believing in a god. In fact, the more I find out about the nature of reality, the more beautiful I find it to be. As an atheist, I know I will only get one life- the one I currently have. So I use to to enjoy as much and as many experiences as I can within that short 80 year span. To me, there is more beauty in the world now than ever when I was a theist and as my knowledge grows, so too does my appreciation for the current state of our cosmos and the search for our precise origins.

>>135341797
Energy cannot be created or destroyed, but it can change shapes and states. Our biological self is nothing more than an extremely, extremely complex computer made of organic tissue and energy. At one time, the systems were much simpler, but organisms made of such simple systems do not have the machinery necessary to have speech, thought, etc. As the machinery was molded by the environment again, and again, complexity was added until we get to today; supercomplex biomachines capable of semi-rational thought. It's not a nihilist point of view; it's one of great pride and honor to be the result of such an amazing series of events.

People who believe mock the religious, but have literally no doubts about gravity.

>>135342388
If you get that sense of awe and wonder, it means you are just as religious as the people you mock. That feeling is the feeling of mystery, It's a positive relationship with the unknown. When you feel that way, you are accepting the fa t that you don't have any real answers and are okay with that. Unscientific. Science is a shit religion because heresy is literally unavoidable.

>>135332021
That's the best thing about women, they are horrible at guessing measurements.

>>135330266
yes, german kikes who hunt religion (except their own)

>>135330266
Yeah. Krauts who let their women get raped by refugees

>>135342863
>If you get that sense of awe and wonder, it means you are just as religious as the people you mock
Except for the part where I don't subscribe to any religion, maybe? That's my point. You don't need a religion to feel that way. Yes, it's about the positive relationship with the unknown; it's about seeking the unknown and making it known. I am only okay with real answers, answers like "because god said so" were not sufficient for me, so I kept looking. I eventually found pier-reviewed articles, papers and a whole scientific community filled with truthful insights with repeatable experiments to back their claims up.

Science is not a religion, it is a tool for testing the world around us- a method for testing and being sure of our results rather than just claiming something to be true because it's written in a dusty book.

>>135330348
the Swedes, who are about half muslim by now.

>>135330710
Typical atheist

>>135331545
jesus christ the butthurt on that meme is strong. pun intented

I like how you faggots don't understand that a study's result is not fact. There's much, much more to solving a problem than one single study can solve. I can wake up tomorrow and I can hear a study on how drinking alcohol will cure cancer and then two days later another article will be circulating how alcohol is the cause of cancer. This is especially true when numbers are involved.

Remember, there's lies, there's damn lies, and then there's statistics.

>>135343130
you still have that sense of awe and wonder. stop being such a cuck and start believing the the rational

>>135330422
flaggot kike whores

>>135343579
>you still have awe and wonder
Okay, and? You seem to think that to have awe and wonder you need to believe in a god, you don't. You can feel inspired by existence itself without pretending it has a human face, or that heaven and angels are real.

>>135342388
While true, someone or something created the universe, to begin with, and that's my argument here.

Believing in a God is as stupid as believing Science because, in the end, we'll never know how the Universe came to be.

I'll tell you this though, a Christian may have wasted one hour of every Sunday of his life if he's wrong but if an atheist is wrong, he wasted eternity. So whos really the dumb one here? Out of both odds, which is the most logical?

>>135330266
Those who will blow themselves up in the name of Sky Wizard.

>>135330266
you

>>135343130
Who the fuck do you think invented science? (Hint: it was the catholics.) Unless you are literally doing all of these experiments yourself, you are forming your beliefs on the writing of other people. You say you don't have a religion, and yet you have all the markings: dogma, priestly caste, tithing, ritual, mystery, jargon, evangelism, sacred ground. Saying It's not a religion doesn't make it so. If you feel no compulsion to question gravity, then you are, in fact, religious. Gravity has never been empirically evidenced. Newton's laws did not come from the lab. Gravity is only known by its indirect effects which may just as well be described without changing any of our math. You experience the numinous on a near daily basis. You are religious.

>>135330266
>Religious people are big dumb poopy heads, especially Christians but Muslims too, Jewish study claims

>>135343797
Yes. Awe and wonder are non rational responses to physical stimuli. They are an appreciation for the unknown and unknowable. Wonder in particular is a formless fantasy. It is very strictly a sense of pleasure at contemplating unknown potential. The numinous is strictly religious, because it is an ascribing of reason, meaning, purpose, or agency to what may or may not lie beyond the void of ignorance and shadow. You are literally seeing spirits and calling them mathematical formulas. You are engaging in Gnosticism.

>>135330266
First of all
>Daily Fail
The newspaper that straight up makes up news stories?

Secondly
>Blanket statements
Remember when atheism was just an advanced form of autism and atheists only don't believe in God because they can't grasp abstract concepts?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2039690/Atheism-autism-Controversial-new-study-points-link-two.html
Another article courtesy of our friends at
>Daily Fail

Thirdly
>Trump supporter bashing in a supposed research about religion
This research is entirely neutral and not politically motivated at all.

In short, this is just yet another article resulting from the autismal tendency to pigeonhole everything in existence as some kind of psychological disorder.

>>135344397
hint : Pythagoras

>>135344002
We don't know something or someone created the universe, it's possible that the universe created itself due to circumstances outside the perceivable 'edge' of the universe.
I prefer the theory of cyclical universes, it's not as well backed as 'big bang' but it has a lot of potential and answers a lot of questions that people have been headscratching on for a long time.

And yes, pascal's wager does favor the Christian. I however, fail to see any kind of proof for heaven or hell and so I can't in any right mind believe in it. Most of Christianity is obviously, provably false so I take everything from the bible with a grain of salt.

>You say you don't have a religion, and yet you have all the markings: dogma, priestly caste, tithing, ritual, mystery, jargon, evangelism, sacred ground.
Well first off- you should definitely do any experiments, or watch those experiments being conducted, if you doubt their findings. That's the great thing about science- you CAN check.

Secondly:
>dogma
No such thing in science, the whole point is nothing is sacred. Even the big bang theory is being tweaked, edited and reworked as new information comes in. At this rate, it might even be disprove and replaced by cyclical universe theory or something else entirely.
>priestly caste
Who? I guess you could say the most qualified scientists, but then in order for their findings to mean anything a bunch of other qualified scientists from across the world have to verify their claims too.
>tithing
?
>ritual
The ritual is testing and retesting something to ensure that your first guess / results were accurate. Seems like a good ritual to me.
>mystery
The whole purpose of science is to investigate mystery and find answers, yes.

>>135344771
I think it is you who is seeing mathematical formula and calling them spirits. What is a spirit exactly? Can you define it? Test it? Retest it with the same results?

>Awe and wonder are non rational responses
I mean, maybe we're splitting hairs about what awe and wonder mean, but when I look out into the stars at night with my telescope at the vastness of space- I am inspired and humbled. To me this is awe. If I'm using the wrong word, I apologize.

>>135344959
Technically the guy you're responding to isn't wrong, assuming science begins with the scientific revolution. Prior to that you mostly have mathematics and what can be called natural philosophy, only vaguely representing what we know as science today.

>>135344959
Pythagoras was a philosopher. There could be no science until the actual practice and implementation of a scientific process was invented. Furthermore, math, which is a branch of logic, is not a science. Simply coming up with a way to mathematically describe something does not have any bearing on the physical laws. Einstein's relativity may allow us to us known math and science to describe a particle traveling faster than the speed of light, but it doesn't actually tell us anything about how It's done. Saying that a muon can reach the surface of the earth because distance becomes relative does not change our understanding of how this impossible feat is physically accomplished.

>>135345092
>>135344397
Whoops! Accidentally cut out the quote tag when I was trimming the post.

>>135345380
It's HABBENING !!!
t. Byzantine engineer

>>135331545
This was made by a butthurt neckbeard.

>>135330266
People that can't come up with better insults for Christians besides shit like "sky daddy"

>lol how did you know I was talking about chris*ians?

Gaytheists never have anything to say about other religions

>>135344824
that's not even what your article is saying.
i'm a sperg and completely identify with the article. most atheists aren't spergs, but most spergs are atheist.

I grew up religious but all the ambiguity in religious doctrine made me uncomfortable. i have difficulty dealing with vague instructions and my instinct is always to use the most literal interpretation.

but i have the opposite problem of overly empathetic people. I spend so much time analyzing everything that i can't relate with people.

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>>135345378
There is nothing rational about the actions you just described. There is nothing rational about contemplating your place in the universe. You have just admitted that the reason you like science is because it makes you feel good about primeval forces you can't control and can't understand. Against the backdrop of inevitable death, you feel like you at least have some semblance of control because you can at least describe what this place is and what's going to happen next. Awe and wonder are non-rational. Engaging them is non-rational. Using scientific equipment outside of experimentation or demonstration is ritual. It is prayer. It is meditation. You are a religious and spiritual person.

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>>135330266
Replace "religious" with "leftist."

>>135333259
I thought about this recently, and what skepticism of religion mostly breaks down to is their own definition of what they think a god is. Yes of course you don't believe a sky wizard when you yourself defined god as such.
And in that sense I can buy Petersons definition of it.

>>135330266
Not knowing your own gender

>>135346438
Remove "religious". Do not replace. Begin sentence with "People"

>>135346516
Most atheists don't realize their entire argument begins with the biggest straw man of all time. This is because actually engaging with theology can have damaging effects on their simplistic worldview. Really they just don't want to feel guilty about when they masturbated the first time.

>>135330266
>because they are overly emotional and irrational
This is the same thing that causes a lot of problems. This is why SJWs, leftists, and cucks exist, and why women are cunts. Emotionfag genocide when?

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>>135330266
ITT:
>Retards that don't understand what this is all leading up to.

>>135346430
>There is nothing rational about contemplating your place in the universe.
I disagree. How is it irrational to want to know how the world around you functions? That to me seems the most rational thing possible.
> Against the backdrop of inevitable death, you feel like you at least have some semblance of control because you can at least describe what this place is and what's going to happen next.
I do love being able to describe this place and what's going to happen next, but I don't pretend it gives me control. I have never been happy believing something someone told me, ever. I have always wanted to investigate for myself instead. The investigation I have done lead me away from religion and towards science, because science is reliable. When you look up an experiment- any experiment; the quantum particle twin-slit experiment for example. You can do the experiment yourself or watch someone else do it, you can see the result in front of you: you don't have to believe on blind faith.

>>135346824
I can believe that something, perhaps the universe itself, warrants the title of God. However, any definition of god that I've ever seen in a religious context, especially a Christian one, is obviously disprovable.

>>135347226
Do you think that a fictional story can have a deep underlying message?

>>135347136
can they cure my autism with magnets?
I'd sacrifice some of my intelligence to be a normie

>>135347411
Yes absolutely, the bible (and other religious text) is very important history!

>>135347721
How come there is nothing factual in a story of fiction, it is mostly just word. Yet you and me can draw important knowledge from it?

>>135330266
STOP MEMEING ATHEISTS AS ANTI-RELIGIOUS

>>135332002
Nice one.
Original were Evangelical Christians.

>>135347972
Because humans have evolved to be both exceptionally good at pattern recognition and incredibly imaginative. That means we can take what we read, see, or hear and remember it for the future when it can be applied to a similar circumstance. I feel like there's a really good chat to be had between you and me, but I didn't understand your question correctly.

>>135348233
Don't worry we are getting there.

Lessons told in the past to teach the future, weaved into fiction. Do you believe we are smarter than our ancestors or perhaps more intelligent?

>>135348706
We as a human species- that's debatable. We as a sample of the top 25% of humans? Absolutely we are more intelligent than the top 25% of humans from two centuries ago and beyond.

I recognize the value in religious text, as a tool to teach and learn from that proved invaluable over the last 2000 years at least, but I think 20th century living has given us a much better way to acquire knowledge than religious texts.

>>135347226
attaching emotional meaning to the unknown is not the same as getting a better sense of your surroundings. All of your arguments are non-sequiturs. Strong showing.

>>135349296
My case is that you should try and experiment for yourself rather than believe anyone- religious or otherwise; the people who love the unknown are the ones who make the unknown known to us. It is they who "get a better sense of their surroundings" and show the world how they can do it too if they follow the same experiment. Not sure how you, or anyone can disagree with that. Don't you want to see for yourself?

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>>135330266
>Is there anything more pathetic than people who believe in a sky wizard?

Yes

People who think "god" is a concept as simple as a sky wizard

>>135335171
???

>>135349878
The sad thing is, this applies to both atheists and the religious. It's easy to mock the atheist for thinking the Christian believes in a 'sky wizard,' but it's just sad when the Christian really does believe it.

>>135335278
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVvS3L_aBV4

>>135335643
What relevance is the name

>>135330266
Sounds just like leftists, communists, and proponents of (((diversity))).

>>135350020
In both cases the subject of mockery is the close-minded individual, and it has nothing to do with their ideology.

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>>135331865

i want to ____ shoe

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>>135349230
So you define the accumulation of facts as intelligence? And we just came to the conclusion about the value of knowledge in fiction text and you accept it. Is the Bible then the most intelligent book ever written? We are using your definition here.

>>135350490
No I mean biologically, the average global IQ has slowly risen over the time we've been able to record it, there's no reason to suspect it hasn't been slowly growing forever, meaning the farther back in time you look the less intelligent average human you will find. This obviously doesn't account for racial differences, etc but it still a good indicator of our history. So by that logic, the bible was written at a time when IQ was quite a bit lower than today's and is thus almost not worth reading. That would imply that the bible was written by an average man though, where we know that's not the case. For it's time, the bible was a masterpiece of intellect, but by now modern scientific practices have disproven much of it's claims.

>>135350851
So, the Greeks and Romans was idiots by today's standard?

EMOTION BTFO

>>135330266
People who believe in the state?

>>135331545
haha the guy who made this was seething, especially when you resort to unironically straw manning the other group with "HURR I RETARD"

>>135330266
further proof liberalism is a religion

>>135350490
Intelligence is a weasel word that includes a lot of various components like memory, imagination, experience and logic. The accumulation of facts would be education and erudition
>>135351135
The romans and greeks were wise and tough, they were passionate, they trained their minds and bodies and went to war, wrote poems and dramas
They had no idea about heliocentrism, genetics or even electromagnetism
Context matters

>>135351135
Not idiots, no. However, they did do tons of idiotic things for absolutely no reason, in the name of gods that nobody alive today even believes in. We know from their writings and arts that the Greeks and Romans were very smart for their time, but compared to an average human today, the average ancient roman was no different except predisposed to a slightly lower IQ.

The lack of self-awareness in this article is hilarious.
>Religious people's minds are dominated by emotion and not analytical thinking which makes them cling to their views - even when evidence proves them wrong
>But womyn are strong and independent and equal to men.
>The only reason they aren't, is because of sexism.
>Also gender isn't real.
>So how can our eyes be real?
Checkmate, drumpfies.

>>135335278
You need to look at the bigger picture

>>135330266
Religious beliefs are not about things that have evidence that can contradict them. They're unfalsifiable. Otherwise they wouldn't be religious beliefs, they would just be ordinary scientific beliefs.

>>135350207
Make her pay the toll for burning the coal.

>>135351938
Hah! I give you an ovation for figuring out what I was going for with the Intelligence question.
It is getting late here in Sweden so I lump >>135352021 in with your second part.
They had no idea for a lot of things, simply because they had to start earlier than us, we are at the end of this amazingly complex, mysterious wild ride called humanity, reaping the benefits of what our ancestors have collectively and separately worked and learned together only by being united through their ideals and values for truth and visions of a stable future. And even the Greeks inherited lessons of knowledge from their predecessors. So for us to call ourselves more intelligent than our ancestors who we owe so much to is nothing more than arrogance and dishonorable to the giants who have laid the groundwork for the western civilization.

>>135355029
But we are more intelligent than our ancestors, that doesn't stop us from being thankful for their contribution, the two things are not exclusive.
>reaping the benefits of what our ancestors have collectively and separately worked and learned together only by being united through their ideals and values for truth and visions of a stable future.
Just as they reaped the benefits of a society that came before them, so do we. They had a good foundation to build off of, and gave us an even better one. We too will leave this world a better foundation for the next generation.

I think religious text helped get us to where we are and for that, I am thankful. I also think religious text is mostly useless at this point in time now that we have more conventional and practical ways of recording history / laying the foundation for the next generations. It doesn't require religion at all, and in a lot of cases religion is detrimental in the modern world.

>>135330266
>Is there anything more pathetic than people who believe in a sky wizard?
Yes. 100 IQ athiest morons who do shit like marketing or simple IT work, making fun of 70IQ fundamentalists so that they can feel better about themselves. Close minded physicalists who are just smart enough to realize that the earth wasn't made 6000 years ago, but not smart enough to see how religion and spirituality relate to mind body dualism.

It pisses me off talking to mediocre fucks like you because you think you're somehow intelligent. At least evangelicals and other retards know that they're dumb and don't act like pretentious dicks.

>>135356407
So what would you suggest instead, for the people who are:
>smart enough to realize that the earth wasn't made 6000 years ago, but not smart enough to see how religion and spirituality relate to mind body dualism

>>135330266
Why don't you ask your new citizens?
Let us know how that works out for you.
Salam Kraut.

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>>135330266

The big guy in the sky is not the problem, it's the person who interpreted and wrote his words into the texts and dogma.

>>135356662
just stop being so smug about not believing in things like creationism and equating them with the entirety of spirituality. It's like bragging about never being to jail.

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>>135330266
Yes, people that believe any article written citing a "study"

>>135330710
So the only way to be against degenerates is to follow absurd beliefs?

>>135330266
No source.
Edited page
Kill yourself.

>>135356967
lol a fedora because all atheists wear fedoras lmao literally cannot refute this brilliant argument

>>135357792
salsa?

>>135355527
you equate better with materialist/physicalist. This is the great fallacy of the modern world. All of our brainpower is dedicated to finding shortcuts between decisions and material consequences (technology/science), rather than decisions and qualia (spirituality/religion).

>>135330266
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkIJfLfzZ0w

>>135330553
My negro brethren.

People like OP are exactly why Hell exists. Cluelessness is now a standard byproduct of a Western, gubbernmint approved indoctrination program called "education".

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>>135330266
Germany

>>135330266
Germans are more pathetic.There is no middle ground with your people.It's either extreme far right or far left beliefs with your race,both of which are extremely damaging.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyPBVwOCYmM

Jesus is risen from the dead and alive forever more. seek him now while you have breath in your body.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3kc1jDahU4

>>135359954
Only one of them is damaging.

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>>135356662
>17 posts by this ID
C'mon, there's no point in arguing this.

Atheists are overwhelmingly degenerate leftists and nearly to the same extent as jews. They belong in the oven.

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>>135363312
>only 15% voted republican
Atheists are beyond helping.