Are the Masons evil? Are they satanists at the higher level?

No
t. mason

>>135309609
I heard that nowadays you can get from 1st degree to 33rd in like a month in some lodges, true?

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>>135309609
Can you say anything more about it? What do the higher levels do?

>>135309442

Not evil, just have a control issue.

>>135309442
Masons believe that they are supposed to try to leave the world a better place than when they were born into it. A huge chunk of the US founding fathers were masons. All of the Masons that I've known, including my grandfather, were devout Christians who walked the walk.

>>135309442
they keep their intentions secret don't they
when do we ever see freemasons commit to anything, any cause, any party, any nationality
never

speaks for itself

>>135309442
No, I have masons in my family, it's just a club where people talk about shit,

>>135310105
as far as you're aware
and that's giving you benefit of the doubt as regards your claims

so, it must have been all the *other* freemasonic fathers and grandfathers who were raping the kids, huh?

>>135309442

Yes.
https://youtu.be/H5rL3I1QFE0?t=142

>>135309442
my father is a mason and he's the nicest man I've ever known, so no.

>>135310409
>Shitposts in Australian

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Autistic society for degenerate larping. I'd bet Australians have a disproportionate representation

Mason's are dupped into performing Jewish Kabbalah which is pretty much satanism

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>>135310105
>A huge chunk of the US founding fathers were masons
Did the masons create the seal on the dollar bill?

>>135310529
Anecdotes from family members do not necessarily reflect the true (e.g. hidden) nature of the organization.

>>135309442
It's a cult created to trick the goyim into worshipping lucifer

>>135310374
yeah
we know the freemasons have been running short of suckers for decades now

they need new blood
new normies to present a clean image for freemasonry

they need new normies to do the leg work, and run the sausage sizzles and appear in the media as they donate a new wheelchair

Freemasonry needs new cucks to form the base of the pyramid

and this thread is a recruitment drive for those new cucks

try not to be so obvious next time

(did Above Top Secret finally toss you guys out)

>>135310605
Do you think they are controlled by the satanic jews?

well hope y all have a good time were removing you from our country soon

>firebomb

>>135309442
they are blackmailable wannabee manlets conned by jews into doing things in secrecy, obeying orders from above without asking questions.

https://youtu.be/du9aUb6YcXE

Here you go

masons is a tweak to pass down and avoid religion, specially christian men, but instead atheist, that are like a blank book, they believe en metaphysics. They fallen lin control of jews and satanist

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>>135309442
No they are not
Pic related. Founding father in Masonic gear

Masons are a shadow of their former selves, originally skilled tradesmen they are EVERYWHERE in the south, plastering their "secret" logo on vehicles, hats, flags; sad

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>>135309442
No & No.

>>135310763
retarded pic. the Vatican at the top of an entirely american-made pyramid of power?

1+ shekles for you for being a good goy

>>135309609
Can you learn about building stuff in US lodges? Or is it just a drinking club?
I have a good grasp of engineering and modern homebuilding - but kinda want to learn about how things were built back in the day and such. It's my understanding that's what most of the symbology is about.

No young blood... just a bunch of local old neckbeards

Yes, they are very evil.

"All the protests that have taken place are due to a jewish-Masonic-leftist conspiracy of the political class, in collusion with communist-terrorist subversion in the social sphere, which, if it honors us, demeans them."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7EB3-6dYvU

There are only few masons here because of him. I'm happy with that.

why thy all have jewsih stuff in the lodges

From a 1940 Masonic Bible and King Solomon's Temple.
>The Masonic Belief.
>There is one God, the Father of all men.
>The Holy Bible is the Great Light in Masonry, and the Role and Guide for faith and practice.
>Man is immortal.
>Character determines destiny.
>Love of man is, next to love of God, man's first duty.
>Recognizing the impossibility of confining the teaching of Masonry to any fixed forms of expression, yet acknowledging the value of authoritative statements of fundamental principles, the following is proclaimed as...
>The Masonic Teaching.

>>135311178

>but kinda want to learn about how things were built

They need people like you so badly it's crazy.

>>135310466
>>135310917

> Bill Schnoebelen
> 90th degree Mason.

>>135309442
Masons=Templars
Templars=Crusaders

Who do you think are the people demonizing the Crusaders?

Who does not want Crusaders to retake Jerusalem? Who does not want Crusaders to retake Constantinople?

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>>135309442
>>135309442
>Are the Masons evil?
Yes, especially the aussie shitposter
>Are they satanists at the higher level?
Yes and also jewish, especially the aussie shitposter
>>135310172
not this guy I'm talking about masonkikeanon

I'm glad I havent seen him for a while

>>135311933
>Who does not want Crusaders to retake Constantinople
What is important about Constantinople?

>>135312091
>>135311085
>red walls, illuminati symbols, a painting of 2 men kissing on the ceiling over the (((fireplace)))
>nothing satanic about this

https://youtu.be/XaKhCWMr-eA
Full history here masons

>>135309442
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBeJGjVnqPI

midf plz goo

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>>135312528
Your video documents jewish, not masonic behaviors.

>>135312678
This video indicates possible satanism within masonry.

If the masons are satanists then we have to create our own secret society. Obviously very few of them would be. The question is: are Masons (at the fundamental level) controlled by satanists?

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>>135313760
Yes.

Masons are the goyim control branch of the talmud

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>>135311138
you're so fucking entirely stupid its actually ends up being believable.

>>135311933
>Who does not want Crusaders to retake Constantinople?

>ignoring the fact that the Crusaders sacked Constantinople first in one of the biggest backstabs in history.

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Mason here, ask me whatever.

>>135309442
They're the keepers of the history of mankind.
Because books and hard drives don't last forever.
They're very secretive because to keep the truth whole, secrecy is essential for there are too many who would poison the well.
The masons also vet their members to prevent riffraff from becoming members.

It's common sense really.

>>135315250
If that is true then we need to create a proper secret society that represents the opposite of satanism and is able to defeat it.

To me, it feels like they lost their purpose a few decades ago.

They don't build anymore like they used to. A reflection of the rest of the country and western society, I suppose.

>>135314739
the same case occured with the Spanish Empire, Juarez, Bolivar, O' Higgins, San Martin, etc. were all masons, thats why its now all balkanized and every motherfucker is fighting each other on the web

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>>135310678
Speaking the truth. Masons worship the bloodthirsty God of the Jews. At higher levels, they rape each other.

>>135309442
From what i gather.
Lodges are made of successful men that are a cut above the rest. They mean well i think, with their views on building and being devout Christians.

Think their fall came when they started letting jews in. After that they are nothing but profiteers.

>>135317057
took me a while to discover that oy vey higgins made a complete mess out of those countries and was involved in wiping out native tribes that where catholics and he wasnt a catholic wtf

then you read about paraguay some of those countrys literally genocided paraguay and took most of its original territory

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>>135317124
i really hate this graph, Islam is a roman cathoilic invetion, not a nestorian one.

>Illuminati
>Masons
>Jews
How are these connected? Who controls who? How do I learn about them?

they are VERY good goys

>>135317555
thats infograph is fake shit

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>>135318327
*quran kissing intensifies*

can you go ahead and explain to me why the catholic church pushes a pro-islam rhetoric?

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>>135309442

Former freemason here, joined in the UK. Dropped out due to passivity. That's probably enough to identify me.

It's basically a social club for high quality, decent old people. They really want young people to join because it's kind of literally dying of old age, but the people I met were top shelf.

Variety of backgrounds - taxi driver, policeman, plumber, shopowner.

>>135309809
More like from Entered Apprentice to Master Mason, which are the first three degrees, and you don't really need any more than that. Once you're a Master Mason you're fully "in".

I don't think it's fully ideal to go so fast, but eh.

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why free masons lie about cosmos

My grandfather is a mason of the 33rd degree, I can assure you that the main and ONLY goal of masonry is to destroy and annihilate the order of the Knights Of Malta. He's literally forced to kill any of them on sight if he ever stumbles upon one.

>>135312678
thanks for this

>>135319731
are you literally quoting the symbol of a order for girls aged 10-21? Kek

>>135309609
then how do you explain those articles about Mason lodges involved in sex orgy scandals?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2408655/Police-break-drug-fueled-orgy-Masonic-Lodge-finding-women-dancing-naked-stage-men-filming-sex-acts.html

genuinely curious.

>>135313760
We should create a luciferian secret society that would combat the degenerate satanist ones, one that would be free from degeneracy with the exception of weed and traps/booby traps.

>>135320129
Ok, there's actually sex scandals happening and I've seem them. Mostly gay though, between masons and members of the DeMolay order (boys, 12-21)

>>135312678
0:59 "In the first degree, the initiate is asked the following question. What do you desire? And in the first degree he answers life (light? lie?). In the second degree he answers more life/light/lie. In the third degree he answers further life/light/lie".

I was never asked this or anything like it, and didn't answer anything like that.

It's true that it's like a mini ritual where you each say certain things, but nothing any random person would object to or even raise eyebrows at.

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>>135309442


nah, and usually what people says here is pure bullshit.

t. an actual freemason

>>135310641
satan did nothing wrong

>>135320274
Hiram, my brother.

>>135309829

Fuck each other in the ass and give each other benefits in life. Masons were corrupted by jesuits a long time ago. All of this info is readily available online if you google some ex Masons and theologians that cover the subject.

>>135320274
Cringe/10
Pitiful are the people that look to satisfy their sense of belonging.
Look what you're holding you fag. You don't even know what you're holding.

>>135320129

I beileve there's two different lodge systems. In most countries and the one I'm familiar with, lodges are quite independent. In the one in Sweden and Norway, there's one single national lodge.

From the article: "Instead, they say, a party promoter paid $900 to rent the space for the night."

This is very plausible, far more than a lodge doing anything like that on their own.

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>>135309609
where are you im coming with my vigilante anti-mason squad to put an end to your shabboz goy antics and ritual sodomy

>>135320455

.´.

>>135320538


oh really? please do enlighten me

>>135320726
Hmm, you're not initiated, I see.

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>>135320274

Shove your idolatry up your ass and go back to r e d d i t. Pol is a Christian board.

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>>135320715
gotcher back anti-mason bro.
burn the (((true noachide)))

>>135320822


if you were regular /cum/ poster you'd know better, but is not like i care took the bait for the lulz

>>135320890

?

>>135315844
I want to know if you can learn about actual construction/engineering relating things
(also checked)

>>135318338
>whitefolk
Here in The South, it's all older basketball americans that are Freemasons who drive 15+ year old pickups.

Also if they're are master crafstman, why are most of the buildings they occupy derelict?

>>135315905
>keepers of the history of mankind
So can i gleam any applicable knowledge beyond allegorical stuff? I'm intrigued by Randall Carlsons description of Masonrly and prehistory.

>>135309829
Specialized goyim using their God-given abilities for social exclusion and egotism. Nothing of true civil virtue requires secrecy.

another "I'm a low level pleb mason and I think I know whats what" thread.

You might as well ask a new scientologist what their boss has planned for the next year, or ask your local priest what the pope is thinking. It's pretty embarrassing. Then again, people don't break oaths either so why would anyone value your opinion?

You're all scum, I wouldn't piss on you, if you were on fire.

>>135320890
It could be a loli lucifer worshipping board if you wanted to. Agree with ya in that masons are plebbit tier.

>>135309442
The Masons include both Christian and Luciferian branches. At a certain level on the way up the chain, you have to decide which path you're going to take. They also toss in a lot of misunderstood ancient religious teachings (e.g. Hindu origin story). I think the organisation itself should be seen as something like a government and the members as citizens. They don't all fit in one basket.

>>135309442
Secret societies will always undermine us

>>135321048

What part don't you get faggot? Masonry is idolatry and accepts various faiths to subvert the true Christian self.

>>135320044
Those are still the Masonic colors

Well, I'm leaving since you guys aren't interested in knowing the truth, bye.

>>135309442
There are Masonic monuments all over DC. Let that sink in

>>135309829


i'll break it down for you just cuz i'm bored.

for apprentice to master you usually spend your time studying the basics and shit like that, you make your works and you're not allowed to give opinions until you reach a master degree.

when you reach 4° you basically start your philosophical works and learn about basic philosophy, politics and such, nothing really outstanding desu, specially if you are a person who like to study and do research without somebody telling you.

from 15° and so on you're introduced into mystic stuff and things start to get real spooky real fast, up and above i can just speculate as i'm still 18°

>>135320274
Is the earth really flat?

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>>135309442
>implying even a high level mason would know everything the highest mason knows

>>135311138
what an absolute retard

>>135321696


yeah

>>135309442
Fat company owners who fund community projects. Plus they like to larp rituals and make their women socialise with each other. I uses to be fascinated with them until I met some and the charm disappeared.

>>135321641
What are their views on Christ?

>>135321903

Freemasonry is not a Christian organization, nor is it an organization primarily composed of Christians. There are Hindus, Buddhists, Moslems, and even Witches who are Masons. While many Masons claim to be Christians, we question, "How can they be in fellowship with Jesus Christ if they continue to walk in darkness?" If a man is a Christian, the Holy Spirit in-dwells him. Some of us were Christians before we joined the Lodge. We can testify that the Holy Spirit was not silent as we went into the lodge. There were many aspects of Masonic ritual which grieved the Spirit. Those of us who listened left the lodge rather quickly. Some never went back, after being initiated. Others of us ignored the Holy Spirit and quenched it. Later, our eyes were opened by someone whom God had sent to witness to us. In some cases, it was a Godly wife who caused us to question Masonic teachings. At that time, the Holy Spirit confirmed the testimony of the one God had ordained to lead us to repentance. Others of us were led to Christ while we were Masons. As a result or our new 20/20 vision, we were able to see that Freemasonry is incompatible with Christianity. We left the lodge in order to follow Jesus. Are there Christians in the Lodge? Yes, temporarily.

Ex-Masons for Jesus

>>135309442
I dont know about elsewhere but here in the U.S. its a glorified drinking club where old men go to bitch about there wives and get drunk behind closed doors.

>>135310259
I grew up around a bunch of 32nd and 33rd degree masons (mostly Scottish Rite because Grampa was Scottish Rite, but my friends family was York Rite) It's basically a net work for White Christians to Network through and get away from their wives a couple evenings a month.

>>135321358
>muh symbolism is le ebil! its de debiiiiiiiiil!!!

christfags are insufferable

>>135321903


just another avatar such as Buddha, Muhammad and all that, depending on the country you're at they can use a bible, a Quran or the constitution of the country's dominant religious or political view.

>>135321232
I am not a mason, merely intrigued by what they truly represent. It should be reasonably possible to garner an idea about whether or not they are satanists if you are a member. And yes, many people are aware of the plans their bosses have.

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>>135322369

Fags are insufferable

>>135309442
Yes they eat each other's cum, fuck kids, kill babies, black mail each other and wife swap along with a plethora of other sins. They are huge fags.

Go with Christ brah

>>135322035
Wow, thanks for the well thought out response. Do the Masons have any connection to the Illuminati?

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>>135320274
Cool apron, bro

>>135322609

It's not my response just another testimonial from an ex-mason, its not like their acceptance of buddhist and muslims or jews is anything hidden. To think that this isn't idolatry then what is?

Masons are the white people's version of the Illuminati. Masons try to fight the tides of Illuminati and the Jesuits and are a force for good in this world.

>>135322609
The masons you're referring to i.e. blue lodge -- no. Beyond that, possibly. depends on the person.

>>135322779
Yeah, I get it, but are the Masons connected to the Illuminati? Also what is the Illuminati? Is it just a bunch of jews?

>>135322372
>Buddha is an avatar
Kys or someone will do it for you. You also dont know shit about masonry.

>>135322450
I have been a member, and the people in my lodge would be the people you probably got if you took the best 10% of taxi drivers, carpenters, policemen or whatever. The best measured on decency, honesty, humility, friendliness etc. Not only was there no satanism, they wouldn't have wanted to take part in any shit like that.

Lots of lunches, though. And toasting to masons wherever they are, at sea or in the air to come home safely.

>>135309442
They volunteer at children's hospital. They are the guys with the red frustum-shaped hats.

I wonder if this is where the human trafficking network starts... You guys should definitely look into this.

>>135322785
What's so special about the Jesuits?

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>>135322671

i'm drinking and i felt too lazy to make a proper display of mine D.´.B.´.

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>>135322938

No idea about the illuminati

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who the fuck is JABULON

>>135322301
There is an oath of silence about the mini-rituals, but no oath of obedience. Also, trying to use it for personal gain is severely frowned upon.

Of course, people form friendships and make contacts. The person who interviewed me for joining later asked if I had a summer internship already, and he would probably have helped me out if I didn't. But it's not something I asked for.

>>135323128
Welp, you have fancy ones in your country.

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>>135323009
That's the Shriners. They are particularly satanic.

It's not 100% the same as Freemasonry. This seems decent: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shriners

>>135323505


i saw some fancy ones when we went to england, but i guess they're okay.

ITT: lots of good goy masons

>>135322779
treating people or objects as divine is one definition.

such as christians deifying christ as a "son of god", an idea borrowed from pagan religions, especially sumeria+babylon related (christ son of yhwh -> enlil, son of anu, or zeus, son of kronos, jupiter, son of saturn and so on), instead of simply listening to him and "if you love me, follow my teachings". one of which is "follow the narrow road, for wide is the road to destruction", which, considering what wide and narrow roads are for may symbolize being an individualist, not a collectivist that most christians are.

>>135318460
Because our Pope is a cuck that needs to be deposed and replaced with someone a lot more Orthodox.

>>135323790


if you knew what happens in higher degrees it would make your nazi panties wet.

>>135321841
Well, if you want to hang out with fat company owners who fund community projects and have lots of friendly lunches at a modest price, and occasionally larping fun rituals, then they are great.

>>135323918
Does it mean bad things for jews?

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>>135323864
Do you accept as fact that he actually existed? Please note that the answer is with infinite passion. In other words, in connection with a human being it is thoughtless to lay so infinitely much weight upon whether he has existed or not. Therefore, if the object of faith is a human being, the whole thing is a prank by a foolish person who has not even grasped the esthetic and the intellectual. The object of faith is therefore the god’s actuality in the sense of existence. But to exist signifies first and foremost to be a particular individual, and this is why thinking must disregard existence, because the particular cannot be thought, but only the universal. The object of faith, then, is the actuality of the god in existence, that is, as a particular individual, that is that the god has existed as an individual human being. Christianity is not a doctrine about the unity of the divine and the human, about subject-object, not to mention the rest of the logical paraphrases of Christianity. In other words, if Christianity were a doctrine, then the relation to it would not be one of faith, since there is only an intellectual relation to a doctrine. Christianity, therefore, is not a doctrine but the fact that the god has existed. Faith, then, is not a lesson for slow learners in the sphere of intellectuality, an asylum for dullards. But faith is a sphere of its own, and the immediate identifying mark of every misunderstanding of Christianity is that it changes it into a doctrine and draws it into the range of intellectuality. What holds as the maximum in the sphere of intellectuality, to remain completely indifferent to the actuality of the teacher, holds in just the opposite way in the sphere of faith-its maximum is the quam maxime [in the greatest degree possible] infinite interestedness of the actuality of the teacher.

>>135324091


some rituals swap into more nordic shenanigans and yeah, basically how to fight the jew agenda

>>135324091
Freemasonry IS the Jews. The architect is yahweh.

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>>135324298

lol

>>135324258
What is your response to the implications made in this thread that the masons are controlled by, infiltrated, or created by the Jews?

>>135318460
it infiltrated theres good and bad in the vatican and other places its a big mess right now

>>135319058
whats the deal with the knights of malta that they dont like them and want kill them

>>135321251
of course your comment gets ignored like mine these threads are cancer and they ignore the actual good posts

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"The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and secret proceedings.
...
For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day."

-JFK

>>135324258
Nothing in the Entered Apprentice, Fellow Craft or Master Mason degrees about "fighting the Jew agenda".

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>>135309442

>>135324494


i've never seen a jew among us, shit we struggle to get catholics and christians, most of people here describe themselves as "freethinkers", is just some shit people made up as in the speculative masonry we use many kabbalistic imagery and rituals.

>>135309442
>Are the Masons evil? Are they satanists at the higher level?
A simple google search would say otherwise + more. Stop making posts on here about topics which you know you'll get biased unadulterated responses to. Broaden your mind by associating yourself with smarter and more wiser individuals so that you may become them too.

All the best, OP

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they are literally just bunch of wannabees roleplaying as le mysterious secret society

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>>135324403

>>135324622


you just wait and climb the ranks

>>135323058
They are basically the sect of Christianity that predominantly uses buttfucking of little boys as a tool to control the world. Basically all the Jesuits at the top have been buttfucked, buttfuck each other, and buttfuck little boys.

They all worship Joseph, the original buttfucker, and they call all father-figure-buttfuckers of boys "Josephs".

The whole pizzagate cult in Hollywood is based off of the practice the Jesuits introduced.

The Spanish Inquisition was also done by Jesuits.

www.whale.to/b/knox1.html

Im a mason we usually discuss trans rights and pozz each other

>>135309442
At the lower levels, it could be compared to a US social fraternity. However, the jews use it to recruit future leaders (puppets) of the West.

>>135324245
he did exist, there are records of him existing. every story speaking of him is state sponsored propaganda for collectivism, the precursor to communist mentality, just like all other religions. all to make humans more predictable and easier to control by the ones in power, whose empire stretched across time from at least ancient sumeria until today under different shapes and names.

christianity is based on catholic bible, which itself is a jewish-corrupted book that includes neutered parts of the gnostic bible and mystery babylon the great, or the old testament and its god, yahweh/moloch/satan.

you should consider using some line breaks. too much text with no breaks, too easy to get lost.

>>135324943

>i'll post a random article to validate whatever nbullshit i'm trying to argue against a person who is actually in the institution i use my speculation against

Masons are just foggy old white dudes pretending to be Egyptian

>>135312517
Not to mention communist overtones.

>>135325153


Sumerian actually

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>>135325135

Kierkegaard doesn't require reddit spacing

>>135324622
>>135324956
Change that to "fighting for" the Jewish agenda.

lm a mason we usually discuss trans rights and pozz each other

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>>135323257
Stop. Kek is walking the earth, we don't need another Pagan God on this plane

>>135325285


the first mistake people always do is to believe all masonry is alike everywhere, there's a bunch of rites, currents and sorts of organizations that even have opposite views, what people here is trying to do is just use their confirmation bias to believe whatever they want.

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>>135325282

Obey to your owners, piece of trash !

Im a mason we usually discuss trans rights and pozz each other

>>135325539
Yeah, the Cheyanne Wyoming lodge is going to be conservative Christian men. However, both the US and French revolution were Masonic. Also, a disproportionate number of non Jewish leaders after have been Masons. If the Freemasons are so anti Jews, why haven't they done anything in the past 300 years?

>>135325956
Shouldn't this fool be banned for this?

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>>135324549
roman catholicism isn't christian buddy its the continuation of the roman political system and paganism, take a look at the christians in India who claim apostolic succession from Thomas, they were burned alive, and their books were burned by roman catholic invaders in 500AD despite the fact Thomas went to India in 52 AD

>>135326419
>This is what Protestants believe

>>135326071


you must first point out which place are you referring to, because let's say in Mexico masons don't give a fuck about MU JEW issue, same i'd say the russian lodges, the american ones suck as the York lodge and so on are kike funded so have a guess, also Yurop's have a very conservative rite in england while in France they took out the Great Architect from their rite just because WE Liberals and such... so every place has their own issues and goals and i don't think everyone has to fight kikes or go against the status quo if that helps you politically or financially,

>>135309442
As Aliester Crowley put it, the low ranking masons know nothing of the Blue ranks (paraphrasing), blue ranks being the 30th rank and above. That's when the real satanic shit starts to happen. If you turn a pentagram 33 degrees, you get a satanic pentagram. Just read Morals and Dogma to find out about all their satanic crap.

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>>135323914
its more likely that the roman catholic church invented Islam.

francis is not the only pope to venerate the quran in a catholic church

>>135326597
See: >>135326671 The low level masons know nothing.

>>135317767
Fellowship of the Ring /Fellowship of the All Seeing Eye
The Two Towers /Two Pillars
The Return of the King /The Return of the Messiah? Return of the Antichrist?

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>>135326547
>catholics have to call other christians protestants as a term of slander due to their inability to see their fornication with the whore of babylon and her manmade traditions.

>>135326419

It's easy to figure out. Do they believe in Jesus Christ as savior? Yes? They're Christian.

Your revisionist definition is bullshit.

Sincerely,

Everyone with a fucking brain

>>135309442
Yes. Evil. Modern Mason order its rites and symbols created by Satanists and Luciferans like Albert Pike and Giuseppe Mazzini. Ruthless and murderous. The lower caste to the 33 degree are basically saps that are used to feed the beast and as a recruiting ground for the hidden hand of the Masons called the Palladin. Read ((Occult Theocracy)) by Edith Starr Miller. A little hard to follow, but very enlightening.

>>135326879


said who?, to what specific group he was talking about? american masons? european masons? hell, even masonic historians have huge problems in have an straight up definition of what a freemason means because it is so different everywhere.

yet again you still use your confirmation bias to believe you can have an opinion.

>>135326146
Takes a lot more than a single shitpost comment to be banned here.

>>135326916
You believe that the Catholic Church started Islam! In case you didn't know, Europe and Rome in particular wasn't in very good shape during the 7th Century. Also, Mohammed was from a non Christian are.

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>>135309442

so whats the belief?
what should I believe in?
myself?

>>135327236
>>135326916
*area. Also, why would the Catholic Church form a religion that would conquer swaths of Christian territory (Levant, North Africa, and Iberia)

>>135326879
Even if there is a small number of "Satanic Masons" fighting for or against the Jews at the top --

-- and everyone below them really just eat good lunches and do fun larpy rituals --

then is it really fair to attack Masonry as a whole?

You can have an organization for librarians where the board secretly do bad shit, which nobody below them ever notice or take part in. Doesn't mean that all librarians are bad or that the organization itself is bad.

>>135311545
the who is ((the great architect of the universe))? I think you have a low degree artifact there.

>>135321356
if they're good, why do they keep things secret?
the truth shouldn't be kept a secret, ever.
so i can only assume they're actually evil, and just have a lot of good, but naive guys that fill out the lower rungs.

>>135327230
He posted it 3 times

>>135327593
I do not think it is fair to accuse a low level mason of being a shabbos goy since he is ignorant of the true motives. However, I think it is appropiate to criticize the whole group if that is the purpose of it.

>>135328609
A LOT more, like 100 times more.

>>135318958
Yeah, that's like the first three degrees, isn't it? Pretty much entry level even if you're a "master mason". That's the outer shell of Masonry, so people can say "nothing goes on, I'm a Mason".

>>135319037
If you think about it, NASA is a joint Nazi/Mason venture.

>>135325956
What's pozzing? Is that rimming someone with your nose?

>>135310466
what the fuck

this guy lives 5 minutes from my house

>>135323769
All I know is they are hiding something very suspicious under those hats.

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>>135329052

It is making someone HIV POZ'D UP THE BOIPUSS

>>135327447
islam was supposed to be the church's military arm, what jesuits are today. it wasn't supposed to break away as a new religion, corrupt their texts and then go to war for global domination. they underestimated arabs.

>>135317814
"Masonic Messiah who is the antichrist"? This is some Frtiz-Springmeyer-tier crystal meth dream.

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My grandfather was a mason.
He was also a Grand Dragon in the KKK...or he knew the GD. Can't recall which...
Masonry is a Jewish trick.
The KKK is cancer.
Natsoc all the way!

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>>135326935
go back to plebbit. its easy to figure out, an organization that has a history of burning bibles, and burning Christians alive for reading the bible is no christian organization.

the Waldensians, and the Albigensians woud like a word with you for the catholic churches military response for their crime reading the bible.

>>135327236
>>135327447
pope innocent III killed more christians than every roman cesar put together.

the vatican is going to declare the gospel of Barnabas that tells the coming of mohammad, and that Jesus Christ did not die on the cross to be cannon, which is pretty much going to make Islam the Beast be mounted by the whore of babylon which is Rome.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Barnabas

why did the catholic church sack Constantinople 200 years before the ottomans did?
why did the nicean council declare Arian Christianity to be heresy despite Constantine, the one who called the council was baptized as an Arian Christian?

>>135317615
>Who controls who?
It's a conscious circle.

>How do I learn about them
It all begins with reading. Whether that starts with Kabbalah, Hinduism, Gnosticism, or whatever, doesn't really matter, just pick a book and then another one after that. Soon enough you'll begin to piece things together by what you learn and your developing intuition.

>>135313760
That picture is absolute shit.

>>135329658
Disinformation agents in full force. Why would the Church need to form a military arm? They got every man in Europe, noble or peasant, up in arms during the Crusades.

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>>135317615
Crypto-Jew-Jesuits-infiltrated Illuminati is planning New World Order. The Pope is pushing for a one world religion while the Jews are pushing for one world government and currency.
http://redefininggod.com/2016/10/how-the-kabbalist-jews-took-over-the-roman-catholic-church-through-the-jesuit-order/
Pope uniting all religions:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07dPzM5q43c [Embed]
http://www.libertyforlife.com/nwo/albert_pike.htm
View my links.

>>135320044
I know a woman who is OES, she is certainly no "girl", and DESU, she is probably dead from old age now. You are just talking shit.

>>135327416
believe in me who believes in you.

you're the only one who can decide that. that's what the divine great will/holy spirit is about. you have it. i have it. everyone has it. you need to use it, by making your own decisions without being influenced by anyone. follow the narrow road of individualism.

or you can be a cuck and look for another "authority figure" to tell you how to live, what to believe in, and continue existing as a spiritual slave to a "god", "ascended master" or some other hierarchy title.

>>135317615
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bddH5vA9kCU
You should watch this documentary fully. It was made by the guy who made The Greatest Story Never Told.

>>135330060

That picture isn't some sort of great foresight and the end is obviously total bullshit. Dostoevsky wrote Notes from Underground in 1864

>>135311178
It's effectively a drinking club, but with a heavy emphasis on improving the community around you. Freemasonry is on the decline like many things because it's viewed as tired old man groups. This extends to almost everything though. Volunteer groups are dying from lack of leadership. Boy Scouts, Volunteer Fire Companies, and youth sports leagues to name a few off the top of my head.

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>>135309609
Lyin' LARPin' Leaf is what i name you

>>135321579
arrange:
11253679

>>135330104
what's OES?

>>135321110
No construction skills are taught at all.
There are no black Mason's just they have there own thing called prince hall mason but it's all black just for them.

What really baffles me is that after all these years we still don't know the inner workings. They have managed to keep everything secret, not even one member has spilled the beans. There wasn't a single person who joined to unveil the swcrets to the world.

>>135331104
Order of the Eastern Star

>>135331225
You can buy the "workings" books and just about any other masonic literature from eBay.

>>135309442
Their symbol is literally a stylized star of david; which is actually the star of Remphan, the fire god, i.e. the devil/satan. Use your brain.

>>135328391
is this Bible quote referring to 4chan and the Masons/Kek cult?

Isaiah 65:11
"But you are those who forsake the Lord, Who forget My holy mountain, Who prepare a table for Gad, and who furnish a drink offering for Meni."

Then, in the notes, it says that Gad literally means "Troop or Fortune" a pagan deity. Fortune... four tune.... forchan.... 4chan.
Gad literally means "Number or Destiny", a pagan deity. 4channers and Masons obsession with numbers and patterns (e.g. 666, 33, etc.)

>>135309442
>Are the Masons evil?
it depends what you mean with evil. They don't consider themselves evil at all
>Are they satanists at the higher level?
absolutely
hierarchy by knowledge, power by secret

>>135331227
thanks

>>135309442
I joined Demolay in High school then bunch of shit happened and moved. Did the ceremony and all that shit. I am glad I found this thread and reminded me of it. Gonna check out and see if I am still interested. From what I remember of it it was pretty good experience.

>>135309442
>Are the Masons evil?
Absolutely.
>Are they satanists at the higher level?
Not in the sense you imagine but it's very non-Christian.

>>135331441
>Meni
means fate, like the sisters of feight

fate is one of the principalities that stand in opposition to God in the gnostic gospels

really activates my almonds

>>135331441
woops, meant to say Meni means "Number or Destiny"... etc

>>135323128
>>135322671
>>135320274
>t. low levels Masons
you are basically tools, no different from the rest of the people

fuck them all cant wait to start removing kebab and masonry from my country

((elit3s can kiss my arse))

>Are the Masons evil?
They have an "ends justify the means" mentality. It's hard to be 100% sure what their "ends" are so it's difficult to give an answer to that.

>Are they satanists at the higher level?
They worship Lucifer as a personification of light, or the sun, same as Christians worship Jesus. They see Lucifer as a liberator which is like how Christians see Christ as he liberated people from the law. The difference is merely that their conception of Lucifer is generally opposed to Christianity though, more than likely, because of a "ends justify the means" kind of thing. In other words, they want to birth a new civilization from the ashes of the old one.

>>135331225
What this nigga >>135331388 said.

It's all been exposed already. People don't pay attention to it because there's no grand conspiracy or whatever.

I actually had a teacher in highschool who was a mason in the US. He openly told us about all the shit that went down at the lodge. Mostly larping.

At their root and origins I imagine Masonry to be closely related to Gnosticism due to the similarities in imagery and beliefs, their concept of initiation and mysteries, helping others in both their everyday lives and spiritual paths by enforcing healthy lifestyles, mindsets and what not.

Mysteries/Gnosis (answers to all kinds of questions or assorted knowledge) aren't just handed to you right off the bat, they're given to you gradatively as you rid your mind and everyday life of degenerate tendencies and self destructive habits, due to the tendency of the ego to use knowledge for evil.

So ultimely or presumptuously they're not bad, but at least what I think happened was that individuals used the guise and secrecy of masonry to hide criminal activities and shit, the kind of thing they were supposed to be against. Was it the kikes in their midst? M a y b e

>>135333451
This. It's a club for old men to hang out and the higher levels are full of judges and goverment officials that support themselves. Of course they have a huge gnostic influence.

larpers who buy freemason stuff of ebay >>135333145

>>135332677
fate, numbers, destiny... yea they all seem to fit.
so then, what if the sign of the Antichrist isn't literally the number 6 repeated three times, ONLY that number, what if it instead was a warning about REPEATING NUMBERS.
333, 222, 111, 444, 666, 777, etc.
Who else besides 4chan cares about numbers so obsessively? Masons. 33, 66, ...

just thinking out loud. any input?

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>>135333737

checkem says your full of shit and faggot brained

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>>135309442
(((Freemasons)))

>>135309442
Free Masons are actually just a group of fraternities who don't all get along. They were once very influential in American politics, but that hasn't been true in over a hundred years. Now they mostly focus on charity work.

>>135325902
Christ Pennsylvania has its own degree team.

>>135334022
>22
Kek is the antichrist >>135334022

>>135334049
This is so fucking dumb. Countless civilizations have used the pyramid as a symbol.

Next thing you're gonna tell me the Egyptians were Jews for building pyramids. The Egyptians expelled Jews from their lands.

>>135333737
yeah i have to agree with >>135334022
you're getitng a little bogus, there's all kinds of mathematical properties in the original greek and hebrew manuscripts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8rmoMShbTk

its pretty interesting to probe into the bibles mathematical patterns. for some reason or another jesus ends up being 888

>>135331419
that star is a symbol that means "as above, so below" and so does the masonic symbol, which has many interpretations, but the gist of it seems to be that there are no real differences between opposites other than their intensity, whether it's darkness and light (amount of light particles/waves), black and white (light absorption rate), hot and cold (speed of atoms), angels and demons (demons are fallen angels) or heaven and earth (hierarchy, warfare, greed, power lust, authoritarianism and subversive influences exist in heaven just like in here). it's a principle of monism rather than dualism.

it's been used all across time by mystics, long before jews appropriated it. the whole "star is evil!" is fear laced goyim/pharisee thought.

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>>135334458

You think you know numbers you fucking cia nigger cattle?

>>135334523
I know what it means. I see the colors it manifests in. Jews could pick any symbol they wanted tomorrow and I would quickly sniff it out and draw the connections.

>>135309442
They are a satanic cult and foot soldiers for the NWO jews.

But get a high ranking member drunk and you'd be shocked at their level of political insight.

>>135333711
mate you can literally just get in touch with a lodge nearby and talk to them and get an interview if they like the sound of you, its really not hard. but thats here in the UK anyway, i know we dont have any affiliation with other country's lodges

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>>135334478
How much fluoride do you need to NOT realize it's the same exact symbol. Not just a pyramid. The compass and square is a Jew star. The jewmason luciferian pedophile cult owns all the money in the world. It's the same machine. They OWN YOU.

>>135320715

Thank you, please do it anon.

>>135309442
>
I was always interested in joining a lodge.

Is the stuff you learn worth it? Cause it's seems like a bunch of bullshit and masons seem like a bunch of faggot brained paranoid niggers.

Plus, I'm atheist.

>>135309609

You liar.

>>135335471
Holy shit, have you read what you just wrote? You literally sound like a basement dwelling, tinfoil hat wearing retard.

>>135335120
It's the same here.

>>135334721
The difference between an amateur and a professional, is a professional writes a compiler. Nigger monkey.

>>135321283
Loli-Lucifer is best Lucifer. But /pol/ is definitely a Christian board.

>>135334523
good

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>>135335893

DIVINE INTELLECT

>>135310763

Base: Secret Societies
At the top: The Vatican.
"Roman Merovigian"

Are you 5 years old? Or just a really fucking dumb autist? I bet 500€ you're a fucking burger.

>>135311396

Masons are the worst sort of quasi-humans in our peninsula.

>>135325042

See! How degenerate they are!

Well done Hans.

>>135322671
>>135323128
Why would you post it here like this? It's dishonorable.
Reported both of you to your grandlodges.
T. Mason

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>>135337114
didn't even contact their moms, amateur

>>135335709
You seem like an unpleasant person to be around, so please don't.

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>>135309442
They are dumb shabbos goyim

Hihihihihi

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>>135337864

>>135309442

My great uncle was in the freemasons and apparently it was just a boys club where if you do the secret handshake at a job interview and the boss is a mason too he'll always give you the job and that sort of cronyism shenanigans, but maybe that's all he told his family.

there does appear to be a war going on between the spiral and the triangle.

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>>135338129
My local freemason lodge

look closely

>>135337523
Is there an online lexikon for masonic symbols & numerals? Or a recommended documentary or something? Just want to browse.

>>135309442
No sane person is a 'Satanist'. Satan is another name for Saturn.
Not a Devil. There are no devils nor demons and never were.

>>135309442
>Are the Masons evil?
Yes

>Are they satanists at the higher level?
Yes, but they call the devil "Jah-bu-lon".

>>135338360
Remember that when you're in hell because you believed the devil's lies.

>>135330713

23567911

>>135310605
Kabalah is chaldean. Not jewish.
You know nothing about occultism.

>>135338565
Kab·ba·lah
kəˈbälə,ˈkabələ/Submit
noun
the ancient Jewish tradition of mystical interpretation of the Bible, first transmitted orally and using esoteric methods (including ciphers). It reached the height of its influence in the later Middle Ages and remains significant in Hasidism.

>>135338360
stop this fukkin wordplay linguistics pleeeease

>>135338478
interesting choice, thanks

>>135338352
same in my local

also with a hammer and sickel

>>135338722

I like the way it sounded phonetically.

"In Cabala (Kaballah), evil takes on a mysterious existence of its own, which its precepts trace back to the physical appearance of life on earth, or Adam. Cabala claims that Adam throws the entire stream of life out of balance, and that the Church, or Christianity, by formalizing the physical existence of the Adamite people on earth, have become a problem which must be resolved. This is the essence of the basic anti-life principle underlying all Cabala and its heir, Freemasonry. These precepts declare that Satanism will achieve its final triumph over the Church and Christianity, thus ending the "dualism" of this world, the struggle between good and evil. In short, the problem of good and evil will be ended when evil triumphs and good is eliminated from the earth. This program may sound somewhat simplistic, but it is the basic premise of the Cabala and Freemasonry." ~ Eustace Mullins in "The Curse of Canaan" (1987), p. 42.

>>135338235
What's the spiral

>>135311425
Is not 'jewish'. It's even more ancient.
You are not supposed to know.

>>135338903
Good thing you know nothing, then, huh.

>>135320274
>>135322671
>>135323128
Who wants to bet these are shills?

>>135338639
Is not a wordplay but the truth.
Question is, do you really want to know where all of this comes from?
Or do you want to keep on believing thing you do not understand?

>>135338903
divine,corrupt, both or neither?

>>135338622
Nice Wikipedia search.
I repeat, you know nothing about the occult. And no, I'm not a kike nor I follow the Kabala.

>>135339436
Because it's based on a different viewing of the torah, it does not precede the torah.

Are you 16, that you're so proud of worshiping the devil?

>>135339518

I get the impression most fake flaggers are youngsters

>>135309442
I knew someone who was part of the masons. He believed he was part of a higher order that provided aid and guidance to whatever needed it. He also viewed himself as a smarter individual because he also belonged to Mensa.

In my opinion, the masons are made of the kids who sat at the back of the class with a Rubik cube ad believed they were superior for doing minor smart things. They believe all of their own hype, and it is just obnoxious. They have nothing else to offer to the world except their praises to each other. They keep secrets like girls at a slumber party and actually believe its important.

give me a break.

>>135339407
Neither. Just a misinterpretation of an even more ancient doctrine.

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Is there much to overthink?

>>135309442
I saw a similar seal on a car belonging to guy i delivered pizzas to here in iowa. Said something about 15 different sites here alone. Apparantly called "children of the sisterhood" or something like that. It was a while ago.
Sounds pretty pagan desu if sisterhood was a part of it.

Secret societies should be banned as they act to subvert and undermine business, culture, religion government etc. Masons are traitors and traitors deserve death.

>>135339972
I meant the essence of the hexa. Time doesn't matter.

>>135339518
I don't worship any devil. There are no devils.
Are you proud that you worship Adonai? ( do you even know the ancient names of your God)

>>135340118
>Singapore

Dude your country probably became rich because of freemasons, shut the fuck up

>>135340181
You mean the hexagram? In that case, it's at least a couple of thousand years more ancient than judaism.
It has a secret meaning that the kikes don't understand.

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>>135338565
>>135338360
>t. Kabbalistic kike

>>135338803
Really gets the noggin joggin.

>>135340593
Yes, which is what I'm asking about.

>>135310637
http://www.masoncode.com/The%20Great%20Seal.htm

>>135323257

Jahbulon

Jah - Yahweh
Bu - Baal
On - Osiris

Also that pic you posted is the demiurge

>>135338565
Both Hebrew and Aramaic are used to interpret the bible, there are 2 books in the old testament that originate in Aramaic (Chaldean)

>>135329658
You're fucking retarded.

>>135338819
the pedo cults. unless they're the same?
it's just that Trump clearly belongs to some type of Masonic order. I keep seeing patterns of 3 in relation to him.
Trump is going after Hillary/Obama/Soros/and the child trafficking gang/cult.
The Hillary and Crew cult seems to operate under the spiral.
But then again, there are just as many signs (of the triangle, eye, the number 33, or 3, etc.) in Hillary's Moloch camp, that it would not surprise me if this struggle between Trump and the pedo cults was really just an internal power struggle of the Satanists.
This theory would then tie into the Revelation quote about a dragon with multiple heads, all wearing crowns, and two of the heads being cut off.
In weight-lifter jargon, they're cutting to slim down. They're too bulky and ungainly. So now they're slimming down a little.
This has the benefit of fooling the masses that "evil has been vanquished, hurray peace on earth forever!!"
When most likely, nothing has changed at all, just a couple players were removed from the board game.
And in the Game of Thrones, earth edition, only satanists get to play.

>>135340845
The kikes place the elements in the horns of the hexagram, illuatrates the relationship among them. You know, water, fire... Also matter and spirit. In the middle is Adam Kadmon. What they believe is the origin of Adam and Eve.
In fact all of it was borrowed from the hindus.

>>135342289
It transcends culture. Appreciate the reply, insights on the number 6?

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>>135312517
>>nothing satanic about this
Really grasping for links to satanism, nothing shady about the symbolism at all.

Why are y'all so afraid of Freemasonry?