Plane nearly ran out of fuel after female pilots forgot to bring

>>135290306
dont you get huge warning light if you forget to retract landing gear ?

Probably just stopped to take a shit on the street.

Wait, how would that waste so much gas?

>>135290873

It slows down the plane by not being aerodynamic.

>>135290873
landing gear + lower altitude

>>135290873
More air resistance, engines have to work harder to maintain the same speed.

>>135290609
probably

>>135290609
They put a bandaid over it because it was distracting.

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>>135290609
It was probably a shit Indian plane. Their airforce still uses MiGs. I believe they gave two women pilots a fucked up plane and then blamed it on them, obviously they were paying attention to the fuel loss

>>135290873
huge drag
>>135291124
quality post, i chuckled

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And here I thought women were airheads

>>135291237
>brand new Airbus A320

>>135290873
It would be the same as trying to get good gas mileage in car going down the highway with all the doors and the trunk open. Both cars and planes are meant to cut through the air, any substantial change to the body shape will increase drag by a large factor and hamper fuel efficiency.

>>135290873
you have to be atleast 18 to post here.

>>135290609
too busy taking 152 selfies

>>135290873
drag losses
try swimming while holding a plank

>>135290609
>The source, who made a point of saying that both pilots were women
They were prolly looking for the oven to check if the roast is done

>>135291237
It was an A320. They're not crap

>>135291282
Carlos!

>>135290873
>this flag

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>>135290873
What are you, a retard?

It's not as bad as landing a plane and forgetting to lower the undercarriage.

1. You get a warning light and a message on your flight computer
2. You get a warning sound in the cockpit
3. You can clearly see that the aircraft isnt accelerating well

Holy shit, how is that even possible?

>>135291180
best reply

>>135290609
You don't see it while staring at your iPhone.

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>>135290306
>Air India

Literally can't trust my girl to cook chicken let alone fly a plane

>>135291502
I can't believe there wasn't an alarm or something to indicate the wheels were still down.

Here's a young girl landing an A320
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI0Sw4eS1TE

>>135290306
>“brand new Airbus A320”
How the fuck can you not notice the incessant 'gear up' notice?
>looked it up, it's three green triangles on the landing gear indicator panel right in the middle of the console
Not exactly a vote of confidence if both pilots can't even notice that, were they doing their nails or having a tickle-fight?

This is exactly how my wife would fly a fucking plane. Women should be wiping snotty noses and leave real work to the men!

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>>135290609
>dont you get huge warning light if you forget to retract landing gear
There are 3 indicators (one for each nose, right, left main) front and center telling you the gear is down, it seems unfathomable not to notice.>>135292301

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>>135291377
u good
but still macaco

>>135290306

Operators become prone to this kind of shit when both the training and operations are procedure based, you shut off your brain and go through a checklist instead of thinking through what you are doing. It becomes easy as hell to miss a step/ shut out environmental awareness when you think your ass is covered because you followed step by step instructions and think you got the appropriate feedback from your instruments.

This kind of fits right into the way girls learn and do things on paper vs boys who learn through hands on work and environmental feedback and then the paperwork is the last step in the process.

Expect to see more of this in the future.

>>135292228
damn, i wanna play
how many quarters?

>>135290306
>air India
Stopped reading there. Who cares?

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>>135291124

>>135294169
>how many quarters?
Zero: flightgear.org is your friend (I used to be in the dev team)

I had a go at landing a Lockheed C-130 Hercules in a real flight simulator many moons ago at Såtenäs airbase. Failed. Slid off the runway. But that old bird doesn't have these fancy new autolanding systems. You have to fly it manually all the way down to your inevitable death. Didn't have to do the approach though. Simulation started inline with the runway at appropriate height and speed.

>>135290306
Lol it's like a woman driving her car around with all the doors still open.

>>135290306
Should have installed Gentoo

>>135294839
check engine lights are a ploy by the car companies to get you to see a mechanic, even though there isn't anything wrong

>>135296607
neat but i was making a joke about going to the arcade to play with this

>>135290306
Passenger drones when? This would never happen with a computer doing the flying.

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>>135290609

Why don't you try to read controls and flashing gizmos when there are poop smears all over everything smart guy??

>>135290306
Indian airline has always been shit tier.
Bad pilots
Disrespectful Cabin Crew
Roaches in food
Now these fuckers are running in debt and shit
http://www.thehindu.com/business/Economy/debt-biggest-challenge-for-air-indias-disinvestment/article19165763.ece

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>>135297328
what do you think you're doing dave?

>>135297328
I want to die peacfully in my sleep like my grandfather. Not screaming in terror like his passengers did.

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>>135297188
>engine lights are a ploy by the car companies to get you to see a mechanic
Very true. For 10$ you can buy a Bluetooth OBD-II adapter then download free software for your phone. Then in 2 minutes you can reset all the warnings, and see if they are serious or not. I just cleared an oxygen sensor warning on my old truck that would have made it fail it's yearly emissions test, saved me a bundle

>>135290609

Yes

It wouldn't have an audible warning, but lights will be lit up corresponding the each wheel set

It's lucky the wheels didn't break from the airspeed and they bellied out on landing

>>135297554
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nVRY0SCBVo

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>>135290873
>flag

>>135290306
>Air India Flight
DESIGNATED SHITTING PLANES

>>135297482
lmao
so i can shit on the tile just to the right?
india sounds fun

>>135291237
can you even read?

>>135290873
Is this bait, or a classic example of >American education?

>>135291502
>air bus
>not crap

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>>135297482
> Those stains behind the post

Someone dont give a shit about the prohibition

>>135290873
planes are filled with just enough gas to make it to the destination to reduce weight and thus make it use less gas. the landing gear causes some more gas to be required due to worsening the aerodynamics and even if not much because the fuel is precisely meassured, it can cause the plane to run out of fuel

>>135290306
>https://archive.fo/w1P5F

bottom half of the article is trying to distract from their bullshit by telling about men who've belly landed due to mistakes.

oh, look, men make mistakes too! these women aren't really retarded!

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>>135290306

>>135290873
same reason they don't make cubicle planes

>>135298405
Airbus is crap. Their rudders fall off in flight.

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>pshhhhhh whichu wan yall white bois fuckd wit MY plane! dis shit aint werkin right pshhhh fugg

>>135297188
As a mechanic myself, I can only agree. My Escort had a transmission problem, the cable was a bit loose.

Instead of fixing it (P, N and D were not in correct order) I used Scrabble's letters instead which were perfect fit, placed them over the original ones when needed and removed after.

Problem solved and if a nigger tries to steal it and put it on reverse, he's going to have a bad time and ram into the house...

Why fix it when it turns out to be an anti-nigger device? Paid 700$ and sold at 1K$

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>>135290873
are you really this stupid?

>diversity and equality wins again!

>>135291282
CARLOSSSSS

>>135298525
>planes are filled with just enough gas to make it to the destination to reduce weight and thus make it use less gas
No, they always have a reserve for a hour of of linger time, taxi time, or in case the flight gets diverted. Have you never flown on a long commercial flight?
source: ICAO
>Per ICAO Annex 6, Part I, section 4.3.6 "Fuel Requirements," airplanes should calculate their required fuel quantity as follows (summary; see below for actual ICAO text):

Taxi fuel
Trip fuel (to reach intended destination)
Contingency fuel (higher of 5% of "trip fuel" or 5 minutes of holding flight)
Destination alternate fuel (to fly a missed and reach an alternate)
Final reserve fuel (45 minutes of holding flight for reciprocating engines, 30 minutes for jets)
Additional fuel (if needed to guarantee ability to reach an alternate with an engine failure or at lower altitude due to a pressurization loss)
Discretionary fuel (if the pilot in command wants it)
General Aviation

For general aviation, ICAO Annex 6 Part II, section 2.2.3.6 "Fuel and oil supply" requires:

For IFR, enough fuel to reach destination, then alternate (if required), plus 45 minutes
For day VFR, enough fuel to reach destination plus 30 minutes
For night VFR, enough fuel to reach destination plus 45 minutes

>>135297754
>It's lucky the wheels didn't break from the airspeed and they bellied out on landing

I think the A320 would give an audible warning for overspeeding Vle (maximum allowed indicated airspeed with landing gear extended), but as they were climbing and had the gear working as an excellent air brake, I suppose they never managed to get the bird flying that fast. Still, they ought to have noticed the loud noice and that the enginges were struggling. Not to mention the three green lights and the gear lever put at "DOWN".
>old friend is an airline pilot
>two of his former collegues were flying a dash-8
>one says "what's that noice?"
>"yea I hear it too. weird"
>"look at the engine power meters. That's a bit high, isn't it?"
>"Hmm yea. What's wrong here?"
>then they notice green lights for gears, but the lever is in "UP" wtf.jpg
>slows down immediately in hope not not have damaged gears.
>goes through checklist for "fubar gear issue"
>suddenly *zzzzzz* gear goes up by itself again.
>go to nearest suitable airfields and lands safely.
turned out it was some relay that had fried

>>135297753
Actually they are a ploy by the EPA to make sure your goymobile has all of it's gay emissions equipment in working order.

>>135290306

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kara_Hultgreen

>Kara Spears Hultgreen (5 October 1965 – 25 October 1994) was a Lieutenant and Naval Aviator in the United States Navy and the first female carrier-based fighter pilot in the U.S. Navy. She died just months after she was certified for combat, when her F-14 Tomcat crashed into the sea on final approach to USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN-72).

>Putting a kitchen in the cockpit of an airliner
German engineering everyone

>>135290306
"""female pilots"""
They can't drive cars, they can't fly planes.

>>135299181
>Kara Spears Hultgreen
>spend 2 million training diversity quota officer
>diversity promptly destroys 40 million dollar fighter-jet
At least she died and couldn't do it again

>>135290306

>Air India

>India

Nothing to see here, folks.

>>135299406

They have to put ovens in everything

>>135299181
lol why is that so funny

>>135299036
lmao, that's it. Vle for an A320 is 280kts (250 for Vlo/e and 220 for Vlo/r) and they only got up to 230 knots.

Like little old ladies on the highway.

>>135299892
>lol why is that so funny
because of this:
>by the time Hultgreen's seat fired 0.4 seconds later, the plane had exceeded 90 degrees of roll, and she was ejected downward into the water
The image in my mind is hilarious

Thank god they dont put landing gears on their spaceships or the indian space program would go out of fuel quicker than you can say spacex

>it was literally Amelia Earhart day 5 days ago
>celebrating a day for a woman famous for getting lost

>>135299892
She fucked up the approach and tried to wave off and go around. She had no thrust though and her plane rolled upside down, she ejected but got launch directly into the water.

>>135290306
>female pilots

Why is this allowed?

>>135300136
Guess women don't like stopping and asking for directions either. Not so different after all.

>>135299181
Press 'S' to spit on her feminist caused, "certified for combat" grave.

>>135291124
Made me snort.

>>135290873
Your making us look bad stop it

>>135290306
>women
Nuff said

>>135291282
>not: i always knew indian girls were a drag.

>>135290873

Planes are designed to have optimal fuel efficiency at a certain speed and altitude, with the landing gear retracted. Change any of those factors and the amount of air resistance you face goes up dramatically, meaning you have to burn more fuel to keep up the same speed.

Landing gear has a *shit-ton* more air resistance than the rest of the plane put together, especially at increasing speeds and altitudes. Plus, they're fuck-heavy and it lowers the plane's center of gravity, meaning they have to keep pitching up on the wings to maintain altitude - and pitching up on the wings increasing air resistance, too.

That the pilots failed to notice a single one of these factors indicates that they were totally incompetent. You don't need indicators to realize that the gear is down when all that happens. It would be like driving with your parking brake on.

>>135300799
Lol, women do that too though.

>>135297923
>designated shitting isle
>shitting or nonshitting section

>>135300799
>It would be like driving with your parking brake on
Which my gf did to both my truck and her car, ruining the e-brake.
>didn't you smell the brake burning up?
>couldn't you tell the engine was working way to hard?
>how the fuck did you do it twice?
I replaced the brake on my truck since it's manual trans, fuck her shit car. Women should not be allowed to drive.

>>135300068
>ejected downward
In the 1970's, the Swedish Air Force made some modifications to the inner beams of one wing of the Saab 37 Viggen, without consulting the manufacturer about it. A number of aircrafts and pilots were lost when that wing broke off at high G's. I read one eye witness acount by a fighter pilot who found himself on rather uncomfortable low altitude with one wing sort of fallen off, how he was trying to sync with blue, green, blue, green, to eject on "blue" while his wingman was screaming: "EJECT! EJECT! EJECT!" over the radio as if he hadn't noticed that the world was spinning around like mad. He did eject on "blue". There is still to this day a noticable ditch in the woods from where the wreck ploughed down.

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"Hello this is your captain speaking: We appreciate you flying with POO airlines and due to a malfunction in our common sense we are running low on fuel

>The sound of a thousand shits descends into the fuel tank followed by cheers

>This is your captain speaking and we are now topped off and ready to land.

The plane goes into a low landing
The designated shitting runways slow the plane down to a safe landing

>Please exit accordingly and thank you for flying on poo airlines

>>135290306
Airline pilot here


That has happened at my company here in the u.s. as well

Shit happens. We have so much fucking shit to do that rarely these things occur

Just earlier today, my first officer (copilot) forgot to descend to an attitude we were cleared to because him and I were busy talking about shit

>>135302052

>t. shit that never happened Roastie

>>135293340
This is literally why aircraft accidents have reduced, doing a procedure instead of thinking. Thinking comes during emergencies, after the procedures

>>135290609
They turned the radio up to make it go away.

>>135301618
>Swedish Air Force made some modifications to the inner beams of one wing of the Saab 37 Viggen
That's pretty fucked up, considering the planes were made in sweeden
>his wingman was screaming: "EJECT! EJECT! EJECT!"
Better than ALLAH ALLAH ALLAH I guess.

>>135302301
Excuse me ? Why would you just assume it didn't happen? Fuck yourself, abdul

>>135290873

LAND OF THE FREE AND HOME OF THE STUPID

>>135302052
How the fuck do you not notice that your plane isn't even making half of cruising speed and then decide
>WELP I GUESS THIS IS OK
?

>>135290306
what was in the cargo bay

>>135302592
Many, many reasons. Fatigue, procedure told you that you already put the gear up so you gloss over the fact that THAT could he the problem, busy dealing with air traffic control or bitchy flight attendants

It's very rare but it's not unique. You can get distracted, you can be tired, and you can just plain fuck up. Half the time I fly, I'm fatigued as shit. I only slept 3 hours last night for example

Just more proof women are universally incompetent. Why would you ever trust female pilots? It'd be like requesting a female surgeon.

>>135291237
A brand new A320. It's a French airplane manufactured by Airbus. You can compare it to Boeing in both quantity and quality.

>>135302964
Fun fact: every person who's taught a female pilot, including me, as experienced women crying in the cockpit because they aren't naturally good at flying

>>135291909
This...What the actual FUCK?

>>135299181
>Elaine Donnelly of the Center for Military Readiness (CMR) suggests that Hultgreen "may have been the victim of a flawed policy"

I see, affirmative action is the fault of white heterosexual males.

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>>135299181
>F-14 Tomcat crashed into the sea
nnnooooooooooooooo

>>135302548
its just another woman anon i assure you that a man can into science even a male nog would probably understand and say it was caused by drag before reading that far along

women are to busy day dreaming about being molest by kebabs

>>135303197
>this
Most aircraft don't have warnings or sounds that your gear is down, only that it isn't down when it's supposed to be

So no, not "this".

Test

>>135302548
>LAND OF THE FREE AND HOME OF THE STUPID
Because you're an expert on aeronautics like all Nethertwits, right?

>>135290306
I shit you not. I knew they were Indian before I read on. Somehow, in my subconscious I thought "Okay two women... But more stupid than ordinary women..." It just came to me.

>>135303379
You're meant to have two if you want to fly.

>>135290306
Lmao fucking women. Using landing gear instead of take-off gear.

>>135302369
>made some modifications
happened with other air forces and their aircrafts too. i recall the Italian Air Force did the very same mistake in (I think) the 1950's.

The Swedish Air Force had drilled a small or so holes to make room for cables to some new weapon system or sensor system. But fighter aircrafts are designed with virtually no safety margins. You want to be able to press it to the limit to gain maximum tactical advantage. So if the manufacturer says 7.00 G is OK, 7.05 isn't. But military has a tendency to use the word 'arrogant' in a way that you understand they mean it as a compliment.

>>135290873
Female detected.

>>135304044
Youd be surprised how many retard men there are in this field

>>135299036
>>135299933

I wonder if the plane's computer was limiting the speed to prevent overspeed damaging the landing gear. Seems like that would be something programmed into a modern plane.

>>135304466
No lol that's not how an airplane's auto pilot or FMS works

>>135290873
>>135290873
Armerucan erducaiton

>>135301544
My GF has driven for miles with a totally flat tire multiple times. She only notices when people flag her down because the tire is smoking or catching fire.

And about a year ago I personally flagged down a girl at a stoplight and told her she was driving on a flat and she said "I KNOW!" like I was the 10th person to tell her. She acted annoyed and kept driving when the light turned green.

>>135300404
>your

>>135302856
3 hrs is a healthy amount of sleep, you baby

>>135299933
Doesn't flying so slow also have a negative effect on fuel efficiency?

the fact that they couldn't get to their cruising speed should have been an immediate red flag and made them check their instruments to make sure that a malfunctions didn't, say, leave the flaps in an odd position, or forgot to retract landing gear, or that the engines weren't struggling to throttle up to a required RPM on the Tachometer.

I'm just an amateur, but when a vehicle isn't behaving as it should, to such a degree, wouldn't you try to find a reason?

>>135303929
>The Swedish Air Force had drilled a small or so holes to make room for cables
Interesting, I can see how the airforce guys would assume this was OK, and it probably would have been if the holes were in the right spots. Properly spaced holes in a beam can increase stiffness sometimes (which may have been the problem). My point was, why the hell didn't they just pick up the phone to volvo? but I guess 'arrogant' explains it.
Got any English links to the details, can't seem to find much
t. mech engineer

>>135304873
Not for an airline pilot lmfao they literally have laws stating you have to have 8 hours of sleep opportunity and 10 hours total off between flight segments because 3 hours is not enough kek

>>135303195
Male brains are better at spatial cognition (i.e. thinking in 3D). Female brains are better at other things that male brains suck at. We complement eachother when we each do our own thing. That's why we need White Sharia back. Gender role is a good thing.

>>135303929
I would think that any changes to an aircraft's structural integrity should be rigorously tested before some unfortunate pilot gets fucked due to diversity hire engineers.

>>135305064
holes in a beam don't increase stiffness, but they do increase stiffness to weight ratio because you remove more weight than you remove stiffness with the holes. But a solid beam of the same dimensions will always be stronger.

>>135303574
You literally just need to pass the fourth grade to learn about aerodynamics

>>135290873
They don't have that much gas to begin with to be economic.

>>135298873

I felt a moment of legitimate terror imagining these would be my pilots on a flight

>>135304466
No the drag from the gear would be huge. Drag is divided into 'induced drag' which proportional to the wing pressure, an 'parasitic drag' which is proportional to the square of the airspeed. At 230kn while flying a well designed aircraft, while climbing too, that's like dragging around an anchor. Just try sit up while driving a motorcycle at that speed. You have to brace not to fly off the bike.

>why can't we get to altitude? Should we be concerned?
>O well lol let's just fly lower.
>Doesn't understand how drag and lift works.
>Omg we're outta gas! Halp

True story. I work for an airline, and our initial start of service flight from the US to Western Africa, about (+/-) 10 years ago, the passengers so over-loaded the plane with excess baggage, that the aircarft weight was not completely accurate.

Bag weights on all commercial flights are averaged. Back then I think it was 30lbs a piece ...

Anyway, the flight was 1/2-way across the ocean, when the pilots realized they were running out of fuel, because the aircraft was heavier than they thought it was, not accounting for excess baggage weights. They had to flag-stop in the Azores, just to get enough fuel to make it to their destination.

>>135305541
>but they do increase stiffness to weight ratio
Yeah I forgot the word 'relative' in there. Also strength does not equal stiffness, but this is not really a good board to get into specifics.

>>135305966
Flight plans are written with alternate airports landing sites in mind, i.e.; you get to your destination & cant land, so you have to fly to another airport, etc.

>>135291282
god damnit carlos

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>>135305276

>>135297753
No shit, I'm buying one right now as my Check Engine light came on yesterday, many thanks anon

>>135300311
Checked

>>135305064
>pick up the phone to volvo?
Volvo?

>>135298601
What does the penis in the center indicate?

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>>135290609
Avionics technician here. On any modern aircraft with retractable gear, there are several warning methods used to let the crew know that the gear is either up or down. First is a very noticeable annunciation light, which ought to be obvious to the pilot. Next is an audio warning over the headset and usually cabin speakers. This audio warning will often be triggered by an air data computer detecting that the aircraft is at a certain altitude and airspeed while also having the gear in the incorrect position. The warning lights will often begin blinking at this stage as well.

Of course, leaving the gear down is much better than forgetting to extend it on landing. That happens more than you'd care to think.

>>135307091
>Volvo
opps SAAB

>>135307111
the fuselage and the status of doors/etc.

>>135303367
>being a pilot and not knowing what the light means
>not this.

>>135302052
How could that possibly happen? The gear up call out is the first thing after you have established a positive rate.

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>>135298405
They land themselves, whether you want it to, or not !!

>>135302052
Horse Shit

>>135306083
>western africa
Plastic bags full of smelly belongings overflowing from every overhead, lap, and underseat into the aisle and fucking the boarding process into an hour-long ordeal

>>135304658
It does on an Airbus. It's part of normal law beta protection.

>>135307815
I took a dispatcher course several years ago with a former Eastern Airline pilot. He flew charters after Eastern's demise. One such charter was flights going to mecca, and a family broke-out a hibachi in flight to cook their meal.

>>135306380
They only have alternates if there's bad weather

>>135290609
>India

>>135307577
A light isn't a warning. They're lights that indicate your gear is down but they're not super bright. They blend in with all the other fucking lights, so if you're tired then you can easily miss this. I love it when non-pilots think they know what they're talking about

>>135307584
People could miss the gear up call, or they say the call and the person doesn't do it. We are more robots during normal operations than actual thinkers. Throw in fatigue and high workload and then this shit happens

>>135306083
>to Western Africa
>over-loaded
even worse within Africa. Aforementioned old friend of mine used to work as a bush pilot in Zaïre (called Congo-Kinshasa now?). He contracted a hernia there from, as he put it, "throwing a nigger out of my aircraft". The aircraft in question was on the ground atm and was at full weight due to post and other cargo, while having unused seats. The african gentleman in question didn't seem to understand what the pilot in question meant by "flying weight" nor "full" and tried to sneak into the aircraft anyway multiple times. Pilot in question (>190cm tall and 100kg) finally threw him out, literarily, but got hernia from it to save his passenger's lives. No good deed will ever go unpunished. So he had to go back home for surgery.

His boss down there had even worse stories to tell, like that time they tried to get an old DC-3 climbing when some corrupt idiot had put 1 ton of nails and whatnot on the plane that wasn't in the papers. After throwing out all sorts of things in flight, they made an em landing on the savannah and counted through what was there and what was not supposed to be there, nearby a pride of starved lion...

>>135305033
They might have had throttle higher than normal if they were struggling to reach the speed they wanted as well

>>135291282
Santa mierda mierda carlos¡

>>135307811
Horse shit what

>>135307825
No, it's not. You can easily overspeed an Airbus like any other airplane

>>135303367
Yes they do faggot. I have flown over 200 planes in flight simulators and there's always an indicator, because the landing gear is kinda important retard.

>>135303367
firing up the sim to check, one sec

>>135308642
A light is a warning. That you're too fucking stupid to do your job beyond monkey level is another issue.
>They blend in with all the other fucking lights
Which you check one by one. I don't see why you would miss it.

>>135309260
>>135309260
I didn't say there wasn't an indicator you stupid fucking spic faggot. I said there isn't a warning for gear being down, only for it being up when it should he down. I actually fly airplanes for a living so take your taco hole and shove some cock down it

>>135309452
A light is an indication. The indication is always there until the gear is up. The warning comes when the gear is not down when you're either too low, too low woth flaps expended, etc. Then it screams "CHECK GEAR" or just "GEAR". You really think the airplane screams at you the entire time your gear is down for an approach to landing? No. There is 3 lights on my computer screens that are the same color and brightness as all the other indicator lights

>>135290609
A 320 type rated first officer here.

You do not get a warning for an extended landing gear. However, and this is really important to stress, there are several indications to show that the landing gear is still extended such as:

-Degraded rate of climb
-Slow acceleration/speed
-Fucking shit ton of noise that any sensible pilot would hear and come to the conclusion that it's from the landing gear

And most importantly: 3 VERY visible green lights right in front of the pilots indicating that the gear is still extended.

But that's not all!
Right after the flaps are retracted (end of the take-off phase), the "After Take-off/climb" checklist must be completed.

THE FIRST ITEM ON THE CHECKLIST IS TO LITERALLY UNSURE THAT THE LANDING GEAR IS RETRACTED.

These "pilots" should be immediately fired and theirs licenses should be suspended.

>>135308221
Not so ... runways do become disabled, for various reasons.

>>135308784
>You can easily overspeed an Airbus
Yes. But I doubt they got that far speedwise, due to the legs hanging out and climbing. But something is clearly missing in procedures training at India Air. Remind me to never fly with that company. Please hit me over the head with a brick if I forget. I'd rather take the concussion than die screaming in terror like my grandfather's passengers.

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>>135309452
>>135309383

Pic related. Find the gear indication and tell me it's not something you could overlook if you're tired as fuck or got busy dealing with something else

Again, I love it when armchair pilots tell real pilots what the deal is kek

>>135305978

>Just try sit up while driving a motorcycle at that speed
>265 mph

Jesus anon what kind of bikes do you guys have in sweden?

>>135309960
Three Green on the Tree.

>>135309564
It still stands that any decent pilot would feel the plane not controlling as well though yeah?

>>135290873
>Mexican Intellectuals

>>135290609
Ummm like sweetie we are ignoring these mansplaining cockpits.

and they having goyim believing freemason jews landed on the moon

>>135310026
Yes so. There is never an alternate unless the forecast weather is below certain minimums

What airlines are you a captain for? Yeah shut the fuck up
>>135310038
I'm saying the airplane doesn't stop you from flying into the red, meaning overspeeding or stalling it

>>135310192
What the fuck kind of call is that

It's "down 3 green"

>>135310209
Yeah and these women noticed it?

>>135309960
>>135309452
Haha get fucked, spic

>>135305276
>Female brains are better at other things that male brains suck at.
Like differentiating colors, and that's about it. Don't fall for the "we're equal in different ways" dogma.

>>135302052

Forgetting to descend for a few minutes is not even the same ballpark as leaving your landing gear down for more than 90 minutes, not realizing why your plane struggles to accelerate at 50% of it's cruising speed and 12,000 feet below it's cruising altitude. This is not a case of "shit happens."

>>135293340
Very inaccurate. Read the checklist manifesto

>>135310671
I didn't say it was the same, but I am saying this shit happens

>>135309383
yeah the burger is right

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>>135290873
>American intellectual

>>135310810
Not everyone is a lying piece of shit on 4chan

>>135310148
If it ain't Boeing, then I ain't going.

>>135310972
I haven't died in the non-boeing aircraft yet, however I prefer Boeing

>>135309960
>TO LITERALLY UNSURE

You accidentally magnificent bastard!

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>>135299181
and she had a sister that went into television and had 3 kids. Feminism and equality literally killed her that day. Another win for marx

>>135298601
But where is the steering wheel?

>>135290306
>Letting women operate any vehicle
Theyre just lucky it didnt crash into a chinese jet

>>135290306
>India
>woman
>pilot
I think I see the problem.

>>135297753
>Customer with OBD Scanner clearing codes at random

Gee, I wonder why the mechanic won't be able to fix your car next month....

>>135310772

But you're trying to defend the pilots saying things like this just happen sometimes. Things this serious should get you completely barred from ever flying another plane again.

The pilots were both women explains a lot.

>>135306969
Totally dude, I cleared the P0008 codes out of my engine and the timing chain totally fixed itself.

Saved me $1800. No looking back

>>135310148
>hey all you people who have never been in a Airliner cockpit, show me where this thing is you've never seen
>SEE? A specially trained pilot who has spent years inside a cockpit could miss it too

This is such a silly argument.

>>135311426
I'm not defending them but freaking out over it because "see?!?! 2 vaginas can't fly!! This shit never happens!" Is retarded. This stuff does indeed happen but neckbeards like you who aren't familiar with the industry, yet feel inclined to talk like a pro, think this is the worst possible thing to ever happen in aviation and we are all gonna die and need drone airlines etc etc.

>>135308784
>You can easily overspeed an Airbus like any other airplane

>implying it doesn't have overspend protection
You do know what the green "=" means.

>>135311413
>clearing codes at random
>not reading the post
I cleaned an oxygen sensor warning retard, on an old (15 years) truck to pass an e-test. I suppoe you missed the part where I said 'check to see it it's' important' as well. If you like getting charged 80$ and a few hour wait at the mechanics for every warning indicator then good for you cuck

>>135311796
It's not, you're just too downsy to he able to think outside the box.

Planes have literally crashed from pilots focusing on one small problem and then forgetting that they're about to run out of fuel

You retards act like every single major problem is just so easy to pinpoint/identify and deal with. The fact of the matter is, you're all armchair pilots sitting at home in the comfort of your own fat dew...perfectly rested, perfectly fed, in a perfect environment. This is not how the real world and how real life experiences work/happen

>>135311854

That is some projection there brah, I never said the problem was that they're women, I am not a neckbeard, and I do work in the industry. Take that smug self-righteousness and shove it right up your ass. If you can't figure out within a 90 minute timeframe why your plane is far outside its expected performance, then you should not be a pilot, period.

>>135311960
You do know that the pilot always comes before the aircraft, right?

You're not a pilot.

>>135309260
Indicators aren't warnings Paco

>>135310179
>what kind of bikes
Er?... legal or illegal ones?

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>>135311330
The sticks are on either side, out of frame in that photo.

>>135312860
But what if the left pilot isn't left-handed.

>>135291237
Airplanes going back 100 years, predating MIG's all had landing gear that needed to be retracted.

If something had been mechanically wrong with the plane you would immediately know and land ASAP

>>135312306
The origins point was, yes, the airbus has beta protection, and yes, the strip and beta protection account for able. You want to shove the side stick into the PFD, fine.

>>135290609
>>135292309
t.jobless neet

>>135313323
>able
VLE

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>>135290306
indians are subhuman niggershit retards
pic related

>>135313165
You don't need your dominant hand to use a flight stick.

>>135311105
>yet
Because it only happens once.

>>135313165

It's simple. Become left handed.

>>135290609
Nope. You only get a warning from the GPWS if you're descending and don't have the gear down. I don't think there is a warning for leaving in down. Even if there is, you can squelch it by pressing the Master Caution button

>>135297188
This, my dad always said if the light ain't on in a Chevy something's wrong.

>>135312180
>a consumer being able to tell whether a code is important

O boy i am laffin.

>>135300136
What happened to Amelia Earhart is a state secret intended to preserve the sanctity of a certain prominent politicians reputation.

>>135290609

You get a warning light for low engine oil in a car, but my sister still managed to burn out her engine.

>>135296607
Yeah, honestly with ILS or WAAS you can get the plane down safely to 50-100 ft. After that you just push a button and start flaring. Even an idiot can do it as long as they don't over flare and stall it to the ground

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>>135290873
>tfw just one of many examples of my fellow countrymen's level of intellect.

>>135314406
Dude, if you unhook the battery you can reset the computers and clear the codes in the car.

Saved me $2000, and I bought a jet ski!!

>>135300068
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kara_Hultgreen

the vid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Os2j_r8VXHI

>>135307184
thanks based avionic leaf

>>135290873
>American education

kara vid here fuck

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/Kara_Hultgreen_crash.webm

>>135299036
>When the power level is too high for the sky pilots...

>>135303367
The Airbus FCDC has a gear-overspeed warning that comes in the form of master caution. This includes having a warning tone and by overriding the central MFCD to display a warning.

If this aircraft was in the air, it certainly would've been fast enough to warrant the gear-overspeed warning. They likely overrided the warning though, which is a simple button to press.

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>>135310148
Not a pilot, but I found the gear indicator and gear-up lever in about 15 seconds. Your argument is shite.

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>>135297667

>>135310148
Too Tired, isnt that literally the same as saying low IQ?

>>135308642
Tired is a euphemism for IQ deficient.

>>135305976
I honestly think I had a mild heart attack on my most recent flight, an Air Canada jump from Toronto to Milwaukee.
>woman's voice
>"this is your captain speaking"

Two years before that, on a flight from Chicago to London, I actually almost fainted and collapsed while boarding when I saw one of the pilots was a nigger. Some passengers and the flight crew saw this, but I pretended it was dehydration. They gave me some water and I took eight (8) ZzzQuil™ tablets. Slept the whole flight.

The greatest fear I have is a very rational one: getting offed by affirmative action. I never fly or drive unless absolutely necessary.

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>>135290306
"Too Tired"

>>135310148
Is it near the big noise cancellation button in the bottom lefthand corner

Pol is full of Airbus A320 pilots. TIL

Remember when the opposite happened?
https://teamspeed.com/forums/aviation/58328-b1-b-gear-up-landing-oops-pics.html

>>135290306
9/11 was an indian job.

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Literally right in front of your fucking face.

>>135316926
>TIL
Hang yourself

>>135290306
While the fact they're female is instructive, keep in mind that most Indian pilots are like this. You gamble with your life whenever you fly with an Indian airline.

>>135290306
Affirmative action strikes again!

I can tell you as a professional pilot that women and non whites are generally incompetent compared to white males.

I dealt with a black female pilot once, worst of the worst. She was a disaster. Washed out of the pilot training but I'm sure she was given some high paying do nothing job in management.

>>135290873

Incredible how none of the retards actually answered your question properly.
Because it fucks up the drag coefficient.
>>MUH AERODYNAMICS
fucking idiots.

>>135290609

The warning light was covered in poo.

>>135309960
Thank you for that mint flavored aquafresh.

>>135290306
>India

Found the real problem. Poo's whether male or female are worthless as far as human life.

>>135290873
Run when there's little to no gusts of wind outside
Now run when there's a gust of wind coming at you

You'll expend a lot more energy trying to run in against the direction of the wind because you're meeting resistance.

Now do this but to a plane but thousands of feet in elevation where wind is substantially more powerful.

>>135317161
A jew talking about Aerodynamics.

wew

>>135290306
>An unidentified source told the Times of India that the “brand new Airbus A320”, one of the most fuel efficient aircraft in existence, had struggled to climb after take-off, prompting the pilots to settle on an altitude of 24,000 feet as opposed to a usual cruising height of 35,000 feet. The source, who made a point of saying that both pilots were women, said it flew like this at 230 knots - as opposed to around 500 knots - for about an hour-and-a-half, while the extended landing gear dragged heavily on the aircraft.
>At this point, 90 minutes into a two-and-a-half-hour flight, the crew requested permission to divert to Nagpur as their fuel would have run out before reaching Mumbai.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guBqjMvJnWc

>>135290609
Probably were too busy talking about big Pajeets 4 inch dick is to notice

>>135309960
why do arabs lie so much

>>135310148
they are trained to know which light it is end when to check it, but they where female poopniggers so what do you expect

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>>135290873

PUT ME IN THE SCREENCAP DAHNALD

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>>135308642
>Throw in fatigue and high workload
Also throw in how in Asia becoming a "pilot" isn't always something determined by skill. Sometimes the position is acquired through bribery (because of the status of the job), other times the instructors won't fail a candidate if they come from an important family.

Fatigue, high workload, marginally qualified, female - what could go wrong?

>>135290306
why were there only 99 passengers on a brand new airbus320? i think you should dig deeper, this could have been a planned destination diversion to offload illicit cargo for an intelligence agency

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But what is the squawk code for "female in cockpit"?

>>135319172
>>135319172
no code you just listen for the squawking

SKYQUEEN SKYQUEEN STOP TALKING AND ANSWER ME YOU DUMB BITCHES

>>135298601
This
Also they'd get a message in the middle panels about gear being down.

As well as the airspeed indicator to the left of their flight director would show overspeed warnings dramatically less then what they should be.

>>135292228
even modern planes are so fucking cluttered, with buttons used literally one time per flight

why the fuck planes just can't have a keyboard, and a fucking console with commands that replace knobs and buttons ?

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>>135290306
>The source, who made a point of saying that both pilots were women

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>>135297753
>yearly emissions test
I know this is much earlier in the thread, but what the fuck?

>>135291282
Oh Carl XVI Gustaf.

>>135311278
>when u wanna thot but u built like a panda

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>>135290306
>two women pilots

Two white male pilots > any other combination

>>135298873
Holy fuck they let subhumans fly commercial jet aircraft?

Boeing and Airbus should be pissed.

>>135321291
If my life is in someone else's hands, like a doctor or an airline pilot, I want that guy to be a fucking white male

>>135311413
they only stay clear for 60 miles, unless you actually fix it

>>135320050

Cause then you would get 100 calls from frantic pilots

"HELP MY COMMAND CONSOLE CRASHED AND I CANT CONTROL THE PLANE HOW TO FIX"

>Just turn it off and on again

everyone dies

>>135290873
>Wait, how would that waste so much gas?

Aircraft are given just a little tiny bit more fuel than is needed to make it from point A to point B.

Fuel adds weight, and reduces fuel efficiency so they pack a light amount of fuel so they only have a little more fuel than they actually need. This is in case they botch a landing, and need to come around for another try or 2, or if they were to need to make a crash landing then the low fuel tanks mean there is less combustible material to fuel a fire.

It's a safety precaution.

By keeping the landing gear out it adds significantly to drag. Having the landing gear out is almost as bad as having the air brakes on the entire flight.

They are fortunate the aircraft did not stall, and they landed safely.

>>135290306
>two women

>>135320050
>>135322304
The literal Blue Screen Of Death.

>>135291282
God damnit Carlos

>Brand new Airbus
>Only 99 passengers
>Somehow had no alarms or lights indicating landing gear issue
>Destination has issues with drugs like heroin and cocaine
I miss when /pol/ would read between the lines instead of falling for muh feeeeemales bait.

>>135320050
>Have to engage landing gear
>sudo apt-get install landing gear down

Yeah I think flicking a switch would be faster than a keyboard and typing it all out

>>135314870
Oh my Lord are they shooting those guys with .22 shorts? That is the horrible thing to watch

>>135290306

POO

>>135322898
>ON GEAR WARNING LIGHT

>>135311413
If it's a legitimate problem the sensor will kick another alert to the computer. Sensors send false positives sometimes and simply need to be reset.

>>135320714
In the cucked US states, you have to pass your all these yearly or every two years auto inspections for Schlomo to let you keep driving

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"Thank you for flying Air India and please be coming again."

>>135313165
dont become a captain then.

>>135290609
They thought it was a light for their vanity mirror.

>>135313443
>China >= 105

That image is clearly bullshit

>>135324118
Only the smart ones get tested to keep the numbers up.

>>135298601
Wow, that's A LOT less cluttered than I expected it to be. I'd reckon you could figure out 90% of that with some logical thinking. Now I want to try, what's the best flight sim at the moment?

>>135299635
> at least she died and couldn't do it again
Fucking hell the one good post to ever come out of Canada!

>>135302052
I'll take "Shit that never happened" for $500, Dick.

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>>135321773
This.
The private sector is the only way we can give the value it has to the male proffesionals.

>>135309960
This, I have watched a lot of air crash documentaries and consider myself an expert on aviation, I can confirm this to be the truth

>>135304873
>3 hrs is a healthy amount of sleep, you baby

fuck you I have to get minimum 10 hours of sleep a night

>>135305276
>Female brains are better at other things that male brains suck at.

So... cleaning, bitching and getting pregnant

>>135325698
X-Plane probably. When I was 12 I knew the insides and out of the 737 and 777 in FS2000. Did everything including ATP checkride. Shit if I couldn't get the hang of the Concorde. Could take off but never landed successfully.

>>135325698
Gta 5

>>135294169
How many to ride the girl?

>>135290306
>plane had struggled to climb after take-off
>decide to just fly LOW AS FUCK instead of where they should be flying

>drag prevents the plane from flying at the speed its supposed to fly
>fly at literally less than half the speed they should be traveling at

>90 minutes into a _should be_ a 2.5 hour flight they were out of gas
>traveling at less than half the speed (46%)
2.5*2 = 5 hours to arrive at their destination
>1.5 hours in they are out of gas
>397 miles 638.91 kilometers on a fucking tank of gas
>Airbus A320 has a range of 6,850 km
>female pilots couldn't make it 9% of the planes travel capabilies

>>135291124
sadly probably this.

>>135309960
Agreed, back to making curry and shitbabies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYtL4X-Zm6U&list=PL3FEA09C13E79C129&index=109

lol Just like DSP's attempt at flying.

>>135290873
Same concept as having a pickup truck and being low on gas. You let down the tailgate to reduce drag, therefore getting more out of your fuel. Jesus Christ anon. Ily but fuck.

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>>135327280
>Implying

>>135299933
>get out of the air grandma!

>>135323271
>Sensors send false positives sometimes and simply need to be reset.

... half the time there is nothing wrong and it's the fucking sensor that went bad.

>>135324118
does not matter, we are here to shit on indians and that map serves the purpouse

>>135328881
Erm, they don't carry a full load of fuel on a short flight.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethiopian_Airlines_Flight_961

>>135328881
>>Airbus A320 has a range of 6,850 km
>>female pilots couldn't make it 9% of the planes travel capabilies
see
>>135322419
>Aircraft are given just a little tiny bit more fuel than is needed to make it from point A to point B

>>135290609
they literally ignored the first thing they learned about flight school

>rip poo in loos

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>>135325698
Modern electronics and automation have reduced a lot of the clusterfuck of switches and buttons.
That and the A320 is only has two engines to worry about.

By comparison, here's a 747 cockpit.

>>135330313
hopefully the cure for cancer is cancer BECAUSE YOU'RE A FUCKING IDIOT

tailgate up = recirculating air parcel in the bed which allows air to pass over it, smoothly (laminar) and with low resistance (mini vortex formations between the laminar layers, like ball bearings)

tailgate down = FUCKING CANCER GO KYS

>>135330955
>>135331112
Yes I know this. They do it because the extra fuel adds weight thus decreasing the overall fuel economy. Same reason ups stopped taking unnecessary left turns so they can save the gas money it took for the truck to just sit there waiting to be able to make the turn.
They saved millions in the long run, probably the short run too.

>was hijacked, The plane crash-landed in the Indian Ocean due to fuel exhaustion
top kek YOU WILL NOT MAKE AUSTRALIA HOME