>poor people are obese >but they have enough money to spend

Are you retarded? A really healthy diet is kinda expensive, just look at the prices for veggies. Most cheap food is shit tier and makes you fat. Case solved.

>>135286908
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God OP, why are you so retarded.

I'd imagine there is probably a link between poverty and poor impulse control, lack of discipline, delayed gratification, etc. which cause overeating and obesity.

>>135286371
Shit tier food loaded with suggar, fat and other unhealthy shit is very cheap

While balanced diet consisting of quality meat, vegetables, fruits and some dairy products is expensive.

Also poor people will buy read up meals instead of making thier own food. First one are full of chemicals/conservatnts and so on.

>>135286371
>shit food that makes you fat is cheep
>be poor get fat

>>135286371
it's not that they buy excessive food, it's that generally the cheapest food that feels the most filling is very unhealthy while they also lack the free time to do things like exercise

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Ramen noodles have 300 calories per serving, something like 50-60 carbs, shit tons of sodium, and other unhealthy stuff like MSG.

It's one dollar for two cups at almost any store.

>hurrr healthy food is expensive
Shut the fuck up /pol/
Stupid fat fucking non-whites
You can eat shit food and not be fat
Quantity is what matters

>>135287167

lol quality meat is not better than cheap meat, stop spreading dumb shit you retard

a healthy diet is not expensive, it just doesn't taste as good as junk food , that's why there are so many fat people, they have no self discipline and they are always craving that food-kick and good taste from sugar

The poor are lucky to afford any food at all. Go to An African country or Venezuela and tell them about unhealthy food!

the problem is people arent eating actual food

go redpill yourself on food fools

>>135286371
Fat people are stupid, it has nothing to do with income

>>135286371
>2017
>Not buying 100 burger king chicken nuggets for 15 dollars

It's like you're not trying to eat big to get big.

>>135287408
Turkey vs chicken feed with antibiotics
Cheap meat is loaded up with antibiotics.

>>135286908
Eat less fatty.

>>135287998
I'm /fit/ but but enjoy the occasional fast food binge. Like buying 4 McDoubles and making 2 McQuadruples. When BK ran that 10 nuggets for $1 promo, I bought 40 but called it quits at 36. It was not a productive afternoon at work.

>>135286908
Liar. Produce is many many many times cheaper then combined, processed and frozen produce

>>135286371

Poor people are fat people because they are lazy, unmotivated, pieces of shit. This is also why they are also poor.

>>135286908

Wrong. Raw Veggies and Meat are dirt cheap in Germany.

>>135288
The funny thing is, if you're genuinely on a bulk burger king nuggets are laughably cheap sources of ready made good macro food.

35% fat, 35% carbs, 30% protein. When I was starting out doing 5x5, I would eat about 50 chicken nuggets because I was broke as shit.

>I want 50 nuggets for the 10 for 1 dollar deal thing
>Ok?
>Yeah. Fifty.

Boom, you get 2,150 calories. It's about as cheap as buying a gallon of milk. If they sold just a meat slurry that wasn't breaded I would probably buy those for keto.

>>135289320
>>135288369
Not sure what happened there, but okay.

>>135286371
High Fructose Corn Syrup

>>135288767
You're delusional. My veggies are for free btw, I have a nice big garden.

>>135286371
In the US, SNAP (food assistence) gives you insane amounts of money to spend on food. Actually fucking CRAZY amounts, proportional to the number of niglets you have.

They're fat because their behavior is enabled by food stamps, more or less.

>>135286908
This isn't true. Beans, rice, corn and all that shit is cheap as fuck. People just can't cook though so they eat out and buy frozen shit.

>>135286371
>>135286908
Germanbro explained it perfectly. I'm not fat but definitely malnourished as all I eat is McDonald's twice a day or so. Usually just a big mac or whatever's on the dollar menu.
Healthy food is expensive as shit and I don't have the time to meal plan and calorie count like some queer. Want more fit people? Make healthy food affordable, otherwise get used to seeing more fat people.

>>135286908

In the US as far as im aware shit starchy food is subsidised which contributes to this madness. In the Uk you can buy a kilo bag of frozen chips for a quid whereas a bag of salad leaves, costs the same amount.

So basically germoney is right

>>135287408
In America fast food is also very addictive

>>135286371
They eat processed garbage
They're not gorging themselves on hardy home cooked meals

>>135286908


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpPDVqMltx8

>>135289661
>Don't have time
This is just an excuse lazy fatasses make. Plan your meals for the whole week, use a slow cooker, etc. You just refuse to apply yourself.

>>135286371
People are dumb, they think being poor means having a Thinkpad instead of a MacBook pro or an Android instead of an iPhone 6s is the definition of poor.

>>135288075
All meat is loaded up with antibiotics unless you're buying "organic". The problem is that it helps create drug resistant bacteria. Meat grown with antibiotics doesn't magically turn into poison in your gut.

>>135289661
>I don't have the time to meal plan
It takes less time to make a pb&j sandwich than to wait in line at mcdonalds and for a fraction of the price

>>135289661

Healthy food is affordable you fat fuck, you've already said you're too fucking lazy to meal plan, you faggot.

>>135287164
Underrated post. Have a you.

>>135286908
Bad food for and no movement of any kind makes you fat. you need both. You can eat shit food and burn it off but if you sit on your ass all day you gain weight.

>>135289869


FAT NIGGER ATHEISTS BTFO

>>135289878
I'm skinny, try again. I don't eat the fries or drink soda.
>plan meals for the week
Who the fuck does that? Maybe if you're unemployed that makes sense but some of us have to work.
I don't have several hours to spend mapping out what I'm going to eat. People who do that are mentally ill.

>>135289622
beans and rice is how you get obese you dumb fuck

>>135290233

Only if you eat too much just like anything

>>135286371
>$1 menu
>have $10
>double cheeseburgers
>437 calories ea.
>4370 calories per day from those alone

>>135286908
>buy seeds for various veggies in bulk
>plant seeds
>harvest whatever grows
>eat some of it now and freeze the rest for eating later
>seeds are cheaper than jars of mayo and boxes of cookies

>>135290207
>Who the fuck does that?
Responsible adults. Again, stop making excuses and apply yourself.

>>135289661
>Healthy food is expensive as shit
You liar

>>135286371
Fat people tend to be stupid people that can't grasp the concept of counting calories or reading labels. They think eating a shit ton of fruit and a protein shake = weight loss.

>>135286908

OP's talking about weight, not nutrition.

You don't need to eat nutritious to control your calorie intake and take in less energy than you burn, you just need to put down the damn fork.

There's really no excuse. Poor people are just lazy, stupid, lack impulse control, and can't plan ahead. Reasons they're fat are generally the same ones they're poor.

>>135290233
Try not eating like a fat fuck.

>>135289869
Just came here to post exactly this video, >>135286908 you are fucking retarded.

>>135290543
>dies from starvation while waiting for plants to grow

>>135290659
Nah you'll just burn off all that unnecessary 600 pounds worth of "big bones"

>>135289869
That really fucking depends on where you live.

>>135290471

>Spending $10 on a single meal
>cheap

wow you're a dumbass.

>>135290797
Where is it not true?

>>135286371
They don't spend it on excessive food, they spend it on excessively unhealthy food

>>135290233
No it's not, too much is how you get fat.

>>135289869
Here's the full video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hm8AnNiwH58

>>135286371
A buddy of mine is always eating sugary shit like cereal, pancakes with shitloads of condensed milk, watermelon/orange/pineappe juice with a shitload of sugar, sugary bread, sugary cookies, peanut butter sandwiches, etc, he even adds sugar to a fucking chamomile tea before going to bed

He's always having trouble controlling his appetite and ends up making shitty, unpalatable non sugary food because he only starts preparing his food AFTER the hunger starts

He's not morbidly obese but he's fat, he doesn't eat more sugary shit only because his budget doesn't allow him to

What happened to people's eating habits /pol/? Why are people so hooked up on this shit? I can't wrap my head around people being like this

>>135289661
>Make healthy food affordable, otherwise get used to seeing more fat people.
Healthy food is affordable. It's the time cost that's expensive for people.

A whole chicken costs approximately $1.19/lb. Pat dry then smear that bitch with butter and seasonings you bought in bulk from the grocery store (don't buy the little spice jars) and put it in a roasting pan (that you bought at Goodwill or on sale) on top of onions, potatos, carrots and celery. Roast for up to 90 minutes at 420F. You've got at 4-8 servings of good, homecooked food for just over $8.00.

>>135289661
Fat fuck

The poorest people live in Africa. Africa also has the most obese people on the planet...

>>135286371
poverty causes depression which leads to overeating

>>135288538
Kek, you don't know shit burger.

A medium sized head of iceberg lettuce costs 3.50$ here, a frozen pizza, costs 4$. Well, well well, I guess people will go for the frozen pizza, seeing as an ice berg lettuce isn't a fucking meal. This is just one example. Fresh fish costs almost 20$ a kilo here, frozen fish sticks, about the same weight costs half less.

Please do tell how fresh unprocessed food is less expensive.

>>135291136
>It's the time cost that's expensive for people.
I can make something to eat in less time than it takes to go through the drive through at Mcdonalds

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>>135286908
BTFO by
>>135289869
Bottom line is all food is cheap and poor people get bored or sad so they comfort eat a lot

>>135289661

A couple big macs a day won't make you obese, that's only roughly 1100 calories.

You're fat because you snack on shit all day long in between those fatty.

>>135291462
Rice and beans faggot.

>>135286908
Chicken, rice, frozen veggies you fucking mong.

The "poor" are ignorant and lazy thus poor.

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>>135286371
They're fat because they're lazy. They're poor because they're lazy. Lazy people tend not to cook - it's easier to bung something in the microwave. That sort of food makes you fat. You can mitigate the effects through exercise but people don't tend to do that if they're... lazy.

>>135291133
Fuck I can't even drink a whole bottle of pop anymore because it's just too much sugar. Pop should literally be banned or taxed to shit, I cannot imagine drinking 100+ grams of sugar every day, the ammount of sugary drinks people consume is fucking insane. This shit is the reason why most people are fat in the first place while eating somewhat reasonably. Pure simple sugars fucks up your digestive system as well, it's pure poison.

>>135287405
>portion control
This yabbo gets it.

>>135289869
wtf I'm going to church now

Poor impulse control plus the wonders of capitalism and corn subsidies.

If you're fat and reading this: WHY ARE YOU STILL FUCKING FAT? Just quit eating so much fatty, literally that simple.

.t former fatty

>>135290543
>implying poor people have a garden large enough to grow their own foods for a whole year
>Implying there is no such thing as winter
>implying poor people, who work huge hours have time to fucking plant shit in their non-existing garden
KYS

>>135289424
He has a point you know.

>>135292108

Fat faggot detected

>>135292134
>>135289424

Its just sugar. All sugar in mass amounts (see US diet) is bad for you regardless of its chemical breakdown.

>>135287396

Shit-tier noodles or highly addictive sugar bombs. Tough choices.

>>135292101
And exercise.
>.t former fatty
Same here.

>>135291462
Heads of iceberg lettuce are like $1 each, ¢50 if in season. Carrots are like ¢79 a pound, and you can get store brand flour at like $2 a pound. I've gotten a pound of grass fed pork for the same out of the bargin bin. The day of the rake can't come soon enough

>>135291462
>lettuce isn't a meal

It is if you're fat. You have to actually eat less if you want to lose, fatty.

>>135291133
Pretty sure sugar is addictive. Gonna have to find some sauce on that though.

>>135292108
Yeah those poor people with their lack of time to sprinkle some water and pull a few weeds because it might cause them to miss the first 5 minutes of the new Gay of Thrones.

>>135286371
I can explain it. They're not paying for their food. My tax dollars are.

>>135286371
sugar, mate. Cheap food = sugar. sugar=fat ass. They can choose to eat healthy for the money they have, but are lazy and don't want to cook. The cheapest low-cost food is nothing but sugary carb-bomb shit.

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>>135291462
Semen is free
Can you live of it?

>>135289519
Reeeeee nothing is free you stupid fuck. You're still working for your food even if you work for God instead of man.

>>135292672
>Can you live of it?
Yes and it will make you into a qt trap because consuming semen induces estrogen production

>>135292449
http://archive.is/Agxsh
Doesn't seem like any experiments have been done with humans yet.

>>135291470
The cumulative time spent grocery shopping and cooking can be expensive for some people especially if someone lives in a food desert. It's not an excuse, but it's a factor.

>>135292672
>Post Trudeau
>Asks if you can survive off semen alone

>>135291841
Yeah, I know the feel man, I used to drink cola and eat really shitty when I was in my early 20s for a couple of years, I just can't understand why people would keep those habits far into your mid 20s, let alone keep doing it when you've got health issues

Maybe age plays a factor in it? After turning 25 I simply couldn't stand drinking more than one glass of soft drinks, or any food that contains sugar in excess, I can only eat a limited amount and then my body automatically feels like it's overwhelmed by all the sugar

>2 kgs of rice: ~4$
>1 kg of oats ~2$
>1 kg of frozen broccoli: ~2$
>1kg of dried chickpeas: ~3$
>1 kg of frozen chicken: ~4$

Literally all you need for a week for about 15 bucks. Even people on minimum wage can afford this.

All of you are fucking retarded....even if junk food makes you fat it is the eating too much (caloric intake) and lack of exercise that makes them fat....they could spend the excess on better foods but they are very stupid and very lazy so this get fat. Have you ever seen an EBT shopping cart, it's a fucking joke.

>>135293227
>Food desert
These don't exist they are a lie made up by liberals to excuse the laziness of their pet blacks. A food desert is where you have to walk more than mile to a grocery store. It's fucking absurd.

>>135293227
Yes. There is truth in that. One could also cook in larger quantities over the weekend, freeze portions and have home-cooked meals ready in 2 minutes when they desire it. Hell, cook some stew and you can unfreeze it and throw it on some pasta or rice in under 15 min.

>>135286371
The adrenal glands are what control sugar metabolism. If the kidneys aren't filtering the adrenals (who sit on top the kidneys) will accumulate acidic interstitial lymphatic waste and create a very difficult scenario for the adrenals. They have two options: be consumed by acids and die, or push the acids and lymphatic fluid into fat cells away from vital organs and glands. Obviously the second is done. Poor people generally eat much lower quality food (over consumption of fast food, animal products, etc).

That is the actual biochemistry behind your mystery, but I'm sure this post will be ignored.

>>135286371
Fast food and snacks are cheap and calorie dense you faggot.

>>135286371
Combos and twizzlers are cheap.

>>135291739
>Rice and Beans
Rice ain't as healthy as you might think dipshit. Furthermore, beans are nasty and gives you gas. I sure as hell ain't gonna be eating rice and beans for the rest of my life. If I wanted to eat shit, the dumpster behind the grocery store is more than enough. I am talking about an actual meal, You need a shit ton of different ingredients, and its not like if you can go to the grocery store and orde one quarter of a lettuce, 1/8th of a tomato or what ever else you need for your meal. The rest stays in the fridge and turns bad.

Cherry picking the cheapest meal, while cherry picking the most expensive junk food is not proof of anything. I can buy a bag of chips for a dollar, just because the dipshit went and bought LAYS, probably one of the most expensive brand, and not even on special doesn't proof shit. The prices for fresh foods are even worse in canada. 3 liters of milk is 6 dollars, a bag of 3 pound onions is 3$, a bag of beans (500grams) is around 4 dollars, a bag of rice (assuming you buy the cheapest one) is around 10$ for 8kg, an ice berg lettuce is on average around 2.5-3$, romaine lettuce hearts (3 of them) is around 5$ a bag. A frozen pizza, which is a 2 people meal in my home, is on average 4$, and you can buy it on special and store it in the freezer without it ever going bad. Fruits are darn expensive too, that bag of 3lb apple can easily cost 6$, that cabbage is by weight, which costs somewhere around 1.50$ per pound, a pound of bell peppers is around 3.50$ when not on special, and I can keep on going. Your shitty video doesn't prove anything. I don't waste my money on soft drinks or chips. It is mostly spent on frozen fruits, frozen food, frozen vegetables, frozen deserts as well as their canned counterparts and meat. I've got a drawer full of dried beans, It takes a shit ton of ingredients to make it edible. Fresh is definitely fucking expensive, just because you don't experience it, it doesn't mean others don't.

>>135292541
Where the fuck am I gonna grow m food? On my fucking head? I don't exactly have a garden to grow that stuff in dipshit. Furthermore, it is below 0 degrees half of the year, what am I gonna grow in frozen soil? That is some redneck american everyone, cannot critically think and thinks the whole world is exactly in the same situation as his little shitty trailer park.

>>135290207
>Who the fuck does that?
Everyone who doesn't depend on other people to feed him.

>>135292223
Try to callibrate that detector mate, it seems like the only faggot it is picking up, is you.

>>135294376

Typical fat faggot. Too lazy to cook meals, but by the time it took you to type this response, you could've prepped a meal. Instead the only thing you'll be prepping if your gf's healthier bull.

You'll ALWAYS be a fat faggot with that attitude.

GMOs are really bad for ya, Its not that hard to figure out OP.

>>135292403
>Heads of iceberg lettuce are like $1 each, ¢50 if in season. Carrots are like ¢79 a pound, and you can get store brand flour at like $2 a pound. I've gotten a pound of grass fed pork for the same out of the bargin bin. The day of the rake can't come soon enough
Holy shit, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. I live in a totally different country, hell would freeze before a lettuce would be anywhere around 50 cents. Store brand flour is easily in the 10s of dollars for a bag. And once again, you ain't cooking shit with a bag of raw flour. You need a shit ton of ingredients, which are expensive as hell. There is a reason why a lot of canadians cross the border of groceries, but not that you would know anything about it, your knowledge about anything other than thepile of turd you stepped on is beyond your comprehension.

>>135292405
I ain't fat, but its good to confirm my suspicion that americunts are retarded. A vegetable which is practically 100% water is considered a meal in burgerland.

>>135294376
You can soak the beans in water overnight and they won't give you gas.

I eat chicken/fish with rice and cauliflower/broccoli ~5 times a week and it's dirt cheap, in addition to eating other foods like tuna, pasta with minced meat, pork chops, soups etc.

Me and my flatmate spend like $200 usd on groceries a month tops and we eat really well , it's doable.

>>135286371

To all the wannabe alpha males in this thread saying "just eat rice and beans" go fuck yourselves.

Vegetables are cheap af and cooking is not a female activity.

>>135294709
>Typical fat faggot. Too lazy to cook meals
I cook all my meals dipshit. I am not fat either. I just happen to use frozen food to do so, instead of fresh because its expensive, especially on a student budget. KYS.

>>135295018
Canada?
>convert to islam
>get gibs
>get your cock sucked by turdo
Problem solved

>>135291462
it's about the same prices here. I have always found rice to be 1 dollar a pound. I can get canned vegetables for nothing though.50 cent.

>>135295169
You don't seem to grasp how expensive food it here. Just look at this article

http://blogs.plos.org/publichealth/2014/08/04/diet-cost/

>>135286371
The answer is simple. They are lazy.

Much easier to buy some fries over a potato that needs to be peeled, cut, and cooked.

Much easier to heat up that hungry man, over making some mash potatoes, corn, turkey, and some gravy.

>>135292817
I save money and energy by lying in bed all day masturbating to porn. Problem?

>>135286908
>>135287091
>>135291462
>>135295018
Fat people don't know how to cook. End of story.

All you need to do is meal prep and never go out to eat. Fat fucks honestly deserve to be bankrupt by medical bills.

>>135295430
http://www.moneytipscanada.ca/us-canada-food-price-comparison/

Not even close to being the same price.

i like cereal n milk. n chicken. lately i've started getting the cheap ass crackers from the store.

>>135295539
>Poor and fat manlet who can't cook.

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>>135293878
So when you stuff your face with fast food, your body literally injects the toxic waste to your fat cells?

Is that why extremely fat people have liquid-like exteriors?

Is that even proper "fattening"?

Damn.

>>135288538
Not really man, frozen veggies are cheap as shit. Plus rice, beans, chicken, and ground beef are all relatively cheap as well. It is actually more affordable to cook than to grab at a restaurant or fast food joint. Most people are fat because they pay for the convenience (and taste in some regards). How many times have you grabbed Taco Bell and gone home to play video games. And so many people are happy to sit on their asses or their computers all day. Go play ball or go for a run or go to the lake. It's all free.

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>>135288369
MickieDees is the best when you're /fit/. My go-to meal is 3 McDoubles no pickles. A little over $5 and 1144 kcal. That's what I'm talking about.

>>135295833
I already said I can cook. I mostly live on rice anyways. You got no argument faggot, just kill yourself already. Fresh produce, especially in canada, are expensive compared to canned or frozen onces. And in case you're too stupid to know why, it's because a lot of it needs to be imported, and fresh produce doesn't exactly stay fresh for too long. Frozen food can easily be transported without any problems.

>somehow me using frozen or canned corn instead of fresh one makes me completely unable to cook
>somehow me using frozen peas instead of fresh ones makes me completely unable to cook
American intelligence, I guess that's what happens when you re only 50% white.

>>135286371
>>135286908
Bullshit
Poor people are usually dumb, and that's why they are poor in the first place
Dumb people are shortsighted and can't plan ahead. So they don't eat healthy food because "it tastes bad". They can't see the consequences of their actions.

>>135291462
Like fuck.
Lettuce got expensive for 2 months during the floods in Cali.
I buy 2 heads every week. Three days ago lettuce was $1.25/head...... In Toronto

>>135295539
Just looked up the prices of poultry, fish, and some veggies in Canada

They aren't that much more expensive compared to Mexico or the US, for instance 1KG of poultry here costs like $100MXN, in Canada it costs $120 MXN

Stuff like avocados might be much more expensive but it seems like the price of common meat and veggies is similar to Mexico and the US

How the fuck can you not afford ~$3,000 dollars in food per year? How poor are you?

>>135296346
No one cares faggot. Calories in, calories out. My brother eats trash and drinks a 6pack of beer every night and is probably more fit than you. He just is constantly doing shit.

Want to stop being a skinny fat cucknook? Eat less move more. It's that fucking easy. The fact that you think beans are bad for you tells be everything. You deserve to be fat.

>>135286371
all fat people are stupid or mentally ill

>>135286371
It has to do with the quality of food they buy, not the amount.

>>135296857
This is why I hate all those HFC threads.
>I do abs everyday. Why don't I have abs.
Is another one of my favorites

I was on a tuna kick for months, but idk food isn't a big part of my life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAwyIad93-c

>>135297041
But then they could buy less and not be fat.

Not being able to afford 6 greek yogurts doesn't excuse you from eating 6 McDonald's. Eat 1 McDonald's and use the leftover money to stop being a fat fuck

I've recently started my own diet. I'm 218 and I want to make it to at least 170 by the end of the year.

My breakfast consists of 1 baked potato and 1 hardboiled egg, with a teaspoon of ketchup or siracha to liven it up. I bake the potatoes and boil the eggs all on one night on the weekend then refrigerate them throughout the week. My dinners are stir fry and I rotate between chicken, shrimp, or tofu with alternate veggies and sauces so I don't die of boredom.

Should I keep my limit to 2 meals a day? I often get hunger pains by the time I come home from work and on more than 1 occasion I've broken down and snacked on something.

What's a cheap, easy lunch that would hold me over until dinner? Salads are a pain to prepare and package, even if they are cheap.

>>135297933
Uh... what is your TDEE?

>>135295883
>your body literally injects the toxic waste to your fat cells?
Depending on the ability of the kidneys to filter out cellular waste from recently digested materials and or nearby deposits, yes and no. Most people today have chronic kidney problems and thus putting on fat is easier rather than harder. The people who eat everything in sight and stay in shape/are skinny are epigenetically destroying their genetic heritage and are practically cursing any future children.

The more coarse a material in which the body must digest, the more energy must be expended to make any use of it - and on top this, expel it from the urine or poop. Essentially, obesity exists because lack of knowledge of the lymphatic system in the medical world. The lymph is a system of fluids five times larger than the bloody and just as, if not more important, than the blood. If you ask me, I think the Jewish Masonic medical industry hides it or disregards it on purpose.

>>135297041
Pls explain why some prisoners are fat fucks while others are body builder shredded? Diet does have some effect but, lifestyle is more important.

>>135297933
stop eating nigga, stop before it's to late.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QUnSTxFZfw

>>135297933
reduce to 1 quality meal a day. at the beginning you'll feel hungry, but it will cease after a couple of days, while 2 meals a day will leave you craving.

check this guy out
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqYPhGiB9tkShZorfgcL2lA/videos

>>135298105
>Lifestyle is more important

It really isn't. If you cut rations to 1200 calories, you would be left with skinny fat prisoners, and otter mode prisoners. That's really it.

If you forced prisoners to consume 12,000 calories a day, you would be left with extraordinarily fat prisoners, and strong fat prisoners.

You cannot build out of nothing, and you cannot reduce in a surplus.

>>135297933
Eat three times a day, or break down those 3 meals into 5 and consume them throughout the day

I've found that eating more protein keeps the feeling of having a full stomach for longer, for instance, if I eat a normal sized burger I'll feel hungry again in 3 hours for sure, if I eat tuna salad I can last up to 4.5 hours without feeling hunger

Also,

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/healthy-eating-plate/

This might be a good place to start

>>135291462
Then stop eating lettuce you fucking retard leaf. Everything in the produce section is more expensive than its frozen counterpart. And its also less healthy because it's been sitting there decaying instead of being preserved on ice. I can get a 12oz bag of frozen mixed vegetables (corn, green beans, peas, carrots) for $1, even less if I buy the giant bulk bag. Stick it in the microwave for 5 minutes, steamed vegetables ready to go.

>>135298428
True, something out of nothing is impossible. It takes hard work but, you can eliminate surplus. Jogging in place or jumping jacks or whatever you can think of. Your bringing up extreme hypotheticals. I'm trying to say. Two exact clones fed the same amount of surplus the one who exercises will be in better shape than the sedimentary one. Even if the diet was bread and butter only.

>>135297933
>diet
Nice. I just lost about that much so far.
>breakfast
I'll nitpick the high glycemic index potato but if it's cold you at least get the benefits of resistant starch. An alternative would be an overnight oats recipe which you can jazz up however you want.
>dinner
Good, a solid low carb meal IF you aren't relying on corn syrup based store bought sauces. I can recommend a fairly idiot proof recipe.
>2 meals a day
Try and eat within an 8 hour window. If dinner is at 6 eat your breakfast after 10. Anything other than water will start the clock. Just google it.
>cheap easy lunch
Pack your favorite frozen veggie. Nuke for a couple minutes. Soy sauce + sriracha + light mayo/miracle whip for a satisfying low calorie sauce. If you like frozen peas, then it's a great sauce of that. Overnight oats would also work. Wasa bread with a light cheese wedge spread would also work. Whatever it is pound it with extra water.

maybe try to find something else to do. gotta be something your interested in. i smoke 3 packs a day so. your is visible though nigga. kek

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>>135286908
only in amerifat

>>135287164
this

>>135286371
The government subsidizes corn, refined wheat, and factory grown meat. Foods with those are cheaper than, say, organic vegetables. What's more, some businesses simply won't operate in poor areas.

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>>135287164
Did you expect self discipline from people brainwashed by comercials, addicted by shitfood etc.?
I hope that you don't.

>>135287568
There are people going hungry here too. Its not like fat people are only fat because they're over-nourished. The body can live and grow fat on plain pasta, butter, and hamburgers while still lacking some important components like zinc, calcium, non-heme iron, vitamin C, fiber, and such.

>>135289950
Some people in this country have bigger problems than that. Many live hand to mouth and can hardly pay the bills. Some areas (e.g. West Virginia) don't always have running water, and other areas don't have clean water.

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cheap food is fattening you retard

>>135301826
Your not wrong but, those are outliers and, have more to do with government corruption/ negligence. I bet tons residents of flynt have smartphones and, computers.

>>135296850
I'm a full time student, 3k is a lot, especialy for 1 person.

>>135296857
I never talked about being fat or anything about calories dipshit, i talked about the price of healthy food, way to show you got 0 reading comprehension skills

>>135299294
Holy shit, once again, americunts miss the point completely, I already buy frozen vegetables, I'm arguing against dipshit who says eating fresh and healthy foods and produces is cheap. Fucking american education

>>135294599
Canadian education everyone

>>135290842
4370 calories is 2 days worth of food for an average person

>>135302064
Especially if you sit around and, watch TV and, surf the web all day. On a strictly body composition level. Explain poor body builders who love off tuna and raisin Bran.

>>135302528
canned vegetables are dirt cheap, whats your problem.

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>>135298099
>most people today have chronic kidney problems
Why? In which way?

>the people who eat everything in sight and stay in shape/are skinny are epigenetically destroying their genetic heritage and are practically cursing any future children.

How? By signaling "incoming famine" to the DNA? If what you have said is true, then such people have very well functioning kidneys and adrenal glands. Does the extra consumption lead to some epigenetic effect related to kidneys?

>i think the Jewish Masonic medical industry hides it or disregards it on purpose.
I had never heard about this. Thank you for bringing it to light.

>>135303126
if i wanted to eat vegetables, i could do it for nothing. not very filling though.

Anyone who has ever been broke knows the answer to this question faggot

All the stupid bs about healthy food being expensive is bullshit. How expensive are onions, potatoes, spinach, lentils, beans, yogurt, apples, oranges, prunes, bananas, melons, cabbage, broccoli, zucchini, lettuce, oats, rice, pasta and numerous other vegetables, fruits and grains? They are the cheapest foods available. Add some fish, meat, eggs and cheese which are cheap too if you don't buy the most expensive cuts of meat and the most expensive types of cheese. Add some olive oil and there you have the peak health diet, cheap as fuck.

Average poor people are low IQ. Average low IQ people choose to eat unhealthy. There's your reason why poor people are obese.

what you want is a delicious chicken breast. at the store for 3$.

>>135286371
Poor people are dumb and we give them money to be poor

>>135286371
Gubmint

A burger is $1 and a salad is $5

>>135286908
The food you eat does not make you fat

Eating too much of any food will make you fat

You can have a diet solely of fastfood, and youll probably have some deficiencies, but you dont need to be fat.

Healthy food is not expensive, that is a meme. Rice, beans, chicken, carrots, potatoes...All these things are cheap as fuck. Fruit is the only real expensive item. Honestly, all the money poor fat people spend to eat too much of their terrible food could be used instead to buy some vitamins and bananas.

>>135287164
tpbp

>>135286371
ALL THESE RETARDS SAYING SHIT FOOD MAKES YOU FAT

NO, EATING TOO MUCH MAKES YOU FAT. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU'RE EATING. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

IF YOU ARE OVERWEIGHT EVERY BIT OF THAT EXCESS FAT IS MONEY DOWN THE DRAIN.
IF YOU ARE POOR AND FAT, YOU COULD HAVE SPENT THAT EXTRA FOOD MONEY ON BETTER QUALITY FOOD OR VITAMINS.
IF YOU ARE POOR AND OBESE THAT EXTRA FOOD MONEY COULD BE A GYM MEMBERSHIP.

HEALTHY FOOD ISNT EVEN EXPENSIVE REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>135306179
Bullshit.

>10 dollars on vegetables and pasta
>make 10 servings of pasta salad

>>135286908
> t. can't cook and/or only makes expensive meals with a fuckton of meme ingredients from faraway countries like a retard

>be me
>vegetarian but not for moral reasins just a personal preference
>spend 20-30 dollars, maybe less, a week on groceries
>rice, beans, pasta, lentils, eggs, mushrooms, assorted vegetables
>jar my own sauces and jams and preserve vegetables i dont use

I used to spend even less than that because i had a tiny backyard that could supply me with all my eggs because i had chickens and almost all my vegetables

Anyone can do this and be healthy and live cheaply. Its not difficult.

>>135286908
It's cheaper.

Buy rice, beans, frozen veggies and meats. Foods, not food products.

Much cheaper than TV dinners and frozen tendies.

>>135307662
> 20-30 Aussiebux a week on food
That's cheap as hell even for the shithole I live in.

>>135308083
Yep. I used to buy the whole "healthy food is expensive" thing before i started living on my own and buying all my own food.

Some weeks ill spend more on groceries if i run out of something expensive that i buy in bulk like coconut oil.

Also it should be important to remember that food in australia is more expensive than places like america so an american could spend less than i do.

What does food cost where you live anon?

>>135286908
Calories out > calories in and you will never gain weight. It would literally defy thermodynamics. Even if a eating lunch at McDonalds isn't healthy you can easily stay at about 2000 calories per day if you choose your portions right. So no you fat faggot, that's not a good excuse.

>>135286371
only really fattening food is cheap. if you want to eat healthy or never feel full again then you buy the more expensive stuff.

>>135310642
Since when are cabbage and onions really fattening? Or spinach?

>>135308652
Not sure how to answer this question. The things you mentioned
>rice, beans, pasta, lentils, eggs, mushrooms, assorted vegetables
cost respectively $1.24 (800g), $2.26 (700g), $0.50 (400g), $2.04 (600g), $1.00 (10 eggs), $3.81 (marinated champignons, 530g) and $1.10 (400g). USD.

>>135310642
t. lazy fat fuck
Only lazy fat fuck food is cheap AND easy, like fast food. You can eat good for cheap but you can't be lazy and order it from a drive through or by delivery like a lazy fat fuck. Cheap and lazy fat fuck food or expensive and healthy food is a false dichotomy invented by lazy fat fucks.

>>135286371
Its the cheapest drug to abuse - junk food. Real food is expensive to buy but chips, soda, candy, chocolate, ice cream, pizza, burgers are al dirt cheap. Poor people load up on them the same way investment banker snort $2500 in coke a day.

>>135307599
Don't insult me, I can cook, I grow my own veggies, and I'm not fat except for a little beer belly because I'm too lazy to work out.

What angers me are all those people claiming muh veggies are cheap and so on. Prices like 50ct for a head of lettuce or whatever was mentioned earlier in this thread are simply inconceivable where I live, that's why I started growing them myself. Mostly rich neighborhood but with a few commie blocks for the poorfags not too far away. We got only 1 grocery which is easily accessible unless you got a car, and everything there is expensive as fuck, especially fresh veggies. And meat.

Last week I made some chili con carne because I also grow chilis, and fresh minced meat costs almost 10€/kg in that grocery I mentioned. Another example, fresh soy beans, I love cooking with them. 10 years ago I was living right next to a chink shop where I could get 1kg for 1€. Our grocery sells 200g for 2.50€. Food deserts exist, as another anon mentioned. Also guess what, they simply don't sell big bags of beans or rice there, period.

Of course I can get cheaper veggies and meat in our city, but I need to travel a couple kilometers for that. Which I often do, on foot, I love taking long walks to stay halfways fit. Poorfags from the commie block don't, so you can watch them at the checkout of our grocery buying cheap shit and soda and growing fatter every year. So, of course, the argument about being lazy and having lack of self-control has some truth to it as well. The argument about poor meal planning is also very true. Protip: don't go shopping food when you're already hungry, it increases the chances that you pick shit for fast satisfaction like chips and soda pops etc. Been there, done that, realized it's not the wisest thing to do.

Corn starch is not such a problem over here compared to the US, it's more about sugar. My point still stands, most cheap food is unhealthy and addictive.

>>135311997
>Mostly rich neighborhood but with a few commie blocks for the poorfags not too far away. We got only 1 grocery
I really doubt those fat Amerisharts living in trailer parks have the same problem.

>>135295018
Im in my thirties and have been buying my own food for over a decade now. when i started the average small item was like 2.50$ - a small pack of cheese, 2L of milk, etc. a couple years ago it was around 5$ and now things that used to be 2.99 or 3.99 like say, phili cream cheese, are starting to push into that 5.99-6.99 range. It makes a huge difference. I always try to loosely calculate the total of my gorceries as i shop, adn whil it seems to the average normie only a buck or two more, add that to 50 items in your cart and all of sudden its a huge difference. Food has been climbing steadily here the last few years. Seems like everything is a dollar more every time i shop it will get really bad soon. I even make close to 6 figures a year but i still notice it has become a major expense to keep food in the house.

>>135295586
The other factor is that all those examples you just gave are also far cheaper too. A whole sack of frozen fries is literally 1$CDN. A hungry man is about 3-4$CDN. Its a catch 22, its both easier and cheaper to eat like shit.

>>135295895
Fast food is starting to get expensive, on both sides of the border. A normal combo meal is ten bucks at least here, and getting close to that south of the border

>>135313469
Well in trailer parks you got alcohol on top of poor food choices. Booze can fatten you up really quickly. Also I guess they don't have a decent kitchen, so they go for cheap microwave meals to be able to afford more booze and so on.

>>135297933
no wonder you are a fat fuck, a fucking baked potato, kethup and an egg.

Jesus.

I have a bowl of porridge or some toast.

>>135311165
Thats not so bad, you could probably get more than that too if you bought the grains/beans/legumes in bulk. Lentils, rice, beans, and pasta can all be bought in bulk and last months. I keep all that stuff in mylar bags in big plastic tubs that take like 6 months to run out.

Great way to save money.

>>135314510
>to be able to afford more booze and so on.
That's a poor excuse.

>4 cheese and pick pork pies is £1
>a pot of olives is at least £4

>>135286371
It's the sugar.
It's very cheap, especially with corn subsidies in US.

Almost 100% of sugar is converted into fat that is stored in your body.

Simple as that.
Ban, increase taxes on sugar and health of the west should improve within a decade.

>>135313469
Another huge problem is that nowadays a lot of people simply don't know how to properly cook for themselves. Plenty reasons for that, either mommy never taught them, or they never taught themselves due to a busy life and fast food is available everywhere. My dad is one of them, only "dinner" he is able to prepare himself is putting a sausage into boiling water. Can't even make scrambled eggs for breakfast kek. And guess what, he's a fat fuck. But when he hit the 200kg mark and his doctor was urging him to eat less shit or die early he realized that it's time to change his diet and already lost 50kg.

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>>135314583
I always knew ketchup is sugary as fuck. Was still quite surprised though to see pic related.

>>135314637
It's an explanation, not an excuse. Obesity is unhealthy but it has reasons.

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>>135314884
>European solution to everything is to give the government more of your money

Top kek. I'll give it 5 years before your feminized populace lobbies for a condom tax in order to "give women more of an advantage." You faggots don't even realize most social movements are engineered to provide the government with more taxes. Too obese? We need a soda, fast food, and candy tax. Wage gap? Let's tax the hell out of condoms and/or increase the payroll tax for men. Too many drunkards? If we tax alcohol to the point that no one can afford to get drunk, it'll solve that problem. Too much diabeetus? Let's tax the fuck out of sugar. Etc etc etc. Stop being useful idiot goyim.

>>135315552
Yup, most dips you can buy are sugar bombs, and ketchup is one of the worst.

>>135315773
I smoke a lot less since our gubment increased the taxes on tobacco to improve the health of our citizens. And I'm ok with that.

>>135311093
When were dumb brown people smart enough to eat healthy?

>>135316395
Yep. Just let daddy government do everything for its stupid goyim cattle while getting rich in the process. Germans and Americans are too stupid to decide on what they want to put into their body so the government will decide for you. Driving pollutes the environment so let's increase the vehicle tax, too. Less people driving means cleaner air! Also, we can use that money to increase government payroll and to house illegals, of course.

>>135314583

>a fucking baked potato, kethup and an egg.

That's an under-300 calorie breakfast. What's wrong?

>>135316775
Generally I agree with your train of thought, I don't want a nanny government either. But you're an idiot if you think that it's bad to try to get rid of pollution and improve the health of citizens. Obesity and smoking are a huge drag on our healthcare system, so the government tries to do something about it. Banning diesel cars from cities is a good thing too. Die Post (the company which delivers our mail) is moving on to electric cars right now, and they have a fuckhuge fleet of cars which were polluting our air because diesel is cheap.

>>135318284
Eating sweets like ketchup. Especially first thing in the morning.

>>135318284
Mostly the ketchup, way too much sugar. Grab some tomatoes and mash them up, add some spices, make your own fucking sauce. Takes less than a minute and is better for your body.

>>135289564
Yes, walk into any Walmart in a big city, you will see 400lb negresses dragging around multiple shopping carts filled with junk food

>>135316775
>>135319202
Let me elaborate a bit on the tobacco taxes. As you should know, we got a pretty decent healthcare system here in Germany. Anybody who needs help gets it, including the poor. Smokers were a drag and basically there were 2 options: either increase taxes/healthcare insurance costs for everybody, or increase taxes for the smokers. Government decided to increase taxes for tobacco, doesn't affect non-smokers. Good decision from my point of view. And don't come with suggestion "just let them all die" as a 3rd option, that's not how it works over here.

>>135286371

same oxymoron: how can it be the white families struggle to have 1 max 2 babies and have a hard time paying up, while ali and famtima expecting baby no 7 and doing ok?

>>135286371
Poor people are stupid and lazy

>>135286908
Literal fucking lies.

>>135286908

there's a lot of healthy options that are cheap, you just have to not be completely lazy

sure a lot of shit food is also cheap, but you're lying to yourself if you think it's the only cheap option

>>135322475
It's not about "having a hard time paying up", our women want to earn their own money so that they are not completely dependent on their husband, and good luck raising 5-7 kids while both parents work fulltime jobs. It can werk though, one of my neighbors is amazing. White family, 5 kids, but they needed a lot of help from the grandparents to manage that without neglecting them.

>>135323295
Come on, "being lazy" is of course a factor, but not a catch-all explanation. Read my other posts.