Redpill me on national socialism. You always talk about how it

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>>135276746

Socialism is never the solution
Socialism is the problem

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>>135276746
Bump

Well uh the Jews will be gone and that means no more degeneracy right?
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_Röhm
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_policy_of_Nazi_Germany

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Egalitarian bullshit
Go classist or go back toreddit

>>135276746
it allows me to be edgy on the internet

>>135276746
no, but don't worry about learning about it's economic principles. We'll bring them for you.

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>>135276746
I'd suggest finding a /NSG/ thread, they have plenty of resources.

From what I can tell off the top of my head.. homogeneity, you gain influence by doing service for your people, and instead of a welfare state, if you were unemployed, they would put you in large employment groups, with a bike, and shovel.. to go help work anywhere you could find it.

Your people always comes first, and Natsoc isn't for the German people, Hitler meant it for all of Europe, and for Natsoc to be as a system to keep homogeneity for all peoples

I'm not an expert, so again, a /NSG/ thread would be nice to find..

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>>135277355
If Europe Nations were 100% White, they would be third place in the World for highest I.Q.

>>135276746
>people are responding to this thread
jfc guys this is only either a slide thread or a newfag. in which case sage and lurkmoar

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>>135277610
And if they'd be classist they would be first place

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>>135276746
A Kraut who ask to know his glorious past is like when a belgian nigger asks about Congo.

>>135277102
>thinking national socialism is the same as marxist socialism
Pretty sure lolbergs are just trolling with this meme now.

reminder that the nutsies couldn't into free market


BERLIN (Sep. 11) 1936

Introduction of ration cards for certain foodstuffs, oil and fuel is expected to follow the annual Nazi party congress at Nuremberg, it was learned here today.
The cards, which may not be issued to Jews, have already been printed and sent out for distribution.

>>135277355
The fuck is that last panel? National Socialism doesn't say everyone is equal, that's communism. In fact that's just about the exact opposite of Nazi beliefs, the best and brightest were celebrated while the imbeciles were sent to concentration camps.

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>>135276746

>can you tell me some of its basic principles?

gassing kikes?

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>>135277854
>>thinking national socialism is the same as marxist socialismPretty sure lolbergs are just trolling with this meme now.

Both are contrary to freedom they are both shit totalitarianism

National socialist are basically Democrats
The only difference is Nazis hate Jews and blacks and want them destroyed Democrats hate Christians and Whites

>>135276746
Read Kevin MacDonald's:
The Culture of Critique
Nationalism is about blood and soil.
The tenets are:
- Faith (anti materialism)
- Folk (your race and nation)
- Family (your kin)
National Socialism stands against both Capitalism and Communism.
It stands against usury (interest), international banking, and the entire Globalist agenda.
National Socialism is against the Jewish (Zionist) agenda, and is willing to align itself with fellow enemies of that agenda, as long as that does not require the compromise of core principles.

>>135276746
you look at the problems now and realize that they were right. they were not perfect and had their own problems but atleast they didn't had the (((jews)))

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>>135277776
Well, I hold the belief that when a people are left alone to govern themselves, without (((Them))) they will go back to their default, Native culture.. All this degenrate Shit is not our own, Europeans did not start almost all of what we see today.

Also, that skinhead looks like a White Nigger.

>>135276746
>can you tell me some of its basic principles?

Unless this is a troll post,
I dont think coming to such a shit and biased website full of 18 year old mommas boys will tell you much, never mind reliable information.

I recommend you do some google searches on books regarding Nazi culture and politcs in the 1930s.
Ask /lit/ or /his/ for help or google some relate able reddit threads, but please, for your own sanity (if you have any) don't make another thread like this.

- Wotsit

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>>135278017
>the best and brightest were celebrated
>lay off your entire scientific elite over night
>meanwhile all the lower classes get gobernment handout to get 6 kids
>also fire the entire prussian elite for your drug fueled homo party members

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>>135278290
The Jews at ShareBlue need to give you a raise. Then you'd shill better than this, surely?
After all, isn't that how economic incentive works (at least to leftists)?
This is pathetic.

>>135277102

kill yourself

>listening to (((Rothbard))) and (((von Mises)))

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MShXEiA-1RI

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>>135278475
natsoc believes in classes dumbfuck

>>135278350
>(((Google))) National Socialism for info.
>Not IxQuick

>>135278687
Not to mention the two most famous Kikes (((Rand))) and (((Friedman))).

>>135278475

>Dr. Hirschberg performing first transgender OPs is the scientific elite
>helping out the deserving poor is bad
>not being ruled by nobility schmocks is bad

hm sounds like something a jew would say

>>135278757
Yeah nah. That's literally why they came up with Volksgemeinschaft to overcome classes.

>>135278955

you brainlets are amusing for sure

>>135278923
>helping out the deserving poor
There you go. Socialists are always sjw cucks. You just have a narrower base.

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>>135279072

>don't help people of the same stock, goyim, admire the rich, especially the jews

hahaha you stupid kike nigger dont even understand what you are talking about, just flinging around some random terms you heard somewhere like Kraut and Tea.

Please end your miserable existence

>>135278017
Read it again anon.
It says 'Aryans', and there is a flaw there even if you have been on the bandwagon for so long.
>"Imbeciles"
do you mean imbecile aryans? I don't think they sent any to camps unless they had a deformity or 'tardation.
Sounds like you just got told how amazing you are too many times and you think the Nazi glove fits.

>>135279055
>>135279241
>buttmad deserving poor
I take you very seriously. Go rant some more how the capital- I mean da joos are the reason you're an underachiever with no qualifications

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>>135279459

I am not poor though, both my parents are university graduates as well, engineer and architect and we would be qualified as upper class if you want to use your silly class scheme.
Yet I would rather be associated with an honest but poor German than with a rich nigger or some half kike like yourself.

>>135277355
>Intelligence ranges 100 IQ points within races

True, but misleading. Most white people will have an IQ around 100, and white people with a sub 90 IQ are much rarer than whites with a higher than 100 IQ. Very low IQ individuals generally have a disability so they arent representative of the range for normal people.

And that's a terrible strawman anyway, Natsocs don't think that theyre good people or even useful people because they are white.

>>135279929
>and white people with a sub 90 IQ are much rarer than whites with a higher than 100 IQ.
Do you know how averages work?

>>135279684
I like how you had to switch back to race because you know compared to anyone but a nigger you deserving poor would be the first to go

>>135278955
Volksgemeinschaft is unification of the classes all working for better Germany. Classes still very much exist.

"We do not say to the rich give to the poor we say German people help yourselves wherever you are rich are poor everyone must help thinking there is someone worse off then me"

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>>135276746
Its basically a form of Socalism that rejects internationalist marxism and instead addopts A sense of national and racial pride, whislt at the same time rejecting capitalism but letting free enterprise flourish unlike marxist ideolgies that seize the means of production and create an artfical egalitarian socitey.

Some points within the national socalist program are as follow's.

>Free healthcare to all ethnic citizens
>Free education to all Ethnic citizens
>euginics by sterilisation of People who are carriers genectic diseases, and euthnasia for people with genectic diseases.
>Nationalisation of the banking and financial. sector
>nationalisation of public utilites such as water, electric and transport
>ridding the nation and its people of intrest thraldom, by banning usury.
>clampdown on degeneracy
>state promotion of religion
>a controled economy that puts citizens first instead of profit.
>empthais on enviromental protection
>empathis on animal welfare
>death penalty for most serious crimes treason, murder and pedophillia.
>banning of trades unions
>a one party state, however the leader can be disposed if he underpeforms by voting him out in elections periodically.
>ecnomic rewards for familes who have children
>a welfare state that is limited to workers out of work and is cut off over time.
>military service
>spearheading good health among citizens.
>part state ownership and funding for power house companies, (Krupp steel, Volkswagen, Siemens.)
>stonger military
>forcing jews out of the nation.

>>135280258
I'm not talking about economic status. I'm talking about low value genes compared to high value genes

>>135278290

So your an anarchist then? Because any other system is "contrary to freedom" and "totalitarianism" by some amount.

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>>135276746
Look up the 25 point programm of the NSDAP which were its goal and it's kind of sad that you don't know about it didn't you have a grandparent fighting for it?

>>135280362
Thanks that was exactly what I was looking for :)

>>135280561
My grandpa fought for it but disappeared after the war, all information germans get about national socialism comes from the extremely biased school system. This was actually what got me interested in national socialism, everything i heard about it just sounded so incredibly biased

Actually, I didn't learn about any of the things they wanted to achieve in school. They were always reduced to evil people whose only goal was to kill all jews.

>>135281329
Yeah i know what you mean i had a Grandparent in the SS and one in the Wehrmacht it got me quite intrested in it you can read up on it and it's quite vast and big and once you become a part of it there is no way back good luck and have a nice Life.

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>>135278291

that sounds like alex jones you faggot

ur not a nazi ur an internet troll

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>>135276746

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>>135280362
The Good
>ridding the nation and its people of intrest thraldom, by banning usury.
>clampdown on degeneracy
>empthais on enviromental protection
>empathis on animal welfare
>death penalty for most serious crimes treason, murder and pedophillia.
>banning of trades unions
>ecnomic rewards for familes who have children
>military service
>spearheading good health among citizens.
>stonger military

The Bad:
>Free education to all Ethnic citizens
Democunt confirmed. Education should be formulated around the old grammar schools where discipline and order are fundamental values, whilst the classics are taught and high culture is appreciated. Some type of Sparta-tier gruelling physical education to ensure strong, orderly citizens instead of today's beta cucks.

>Free healthcare to all ethnic citizens
>a welfare state that is limited to workers out of work and is cut off over time.
Healthcare and individual welfare (poverty) is provided by the Church, not the state.

>a one party state, however the leader can be disposed if he underpeforms by voting him out in elections periodically.
Democracy is a complete sham, no political parties, just a permanent monarch with hereditary lineage who rules via the divine right of kings political concept (monarchial fascism).

>Nationalisation of the banking and financial. sector
I like it, but I prefer the creation of credit unions instead of banks' profit-making basis.

>state promotion of religion
The State should not just promote religion, religion should be fundamental to society. When you create a system based on the metaphysical, rather then the empirical, you ensure that you have a system that respects God, rather then Man. Monarchy is divinely sanctioned because it is rule by the family, rather then rule by the politician. Only God can judge the King. When the political is reduced, all of the multiple issues in today's society are reduced when the absolutism of religion is installed.

>>135281731
Dir auch :)

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>>135276746
>Redpill me on national socialism
Had a good /nsg/ yesterday, I recommend reading it all, from begging of the thread to the end:

>>135122980
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>>135122980
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>>135122980


>>135277102
>Socialism is never the solution
>Socialism is the problem
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Sadly the links don't seem to work.

>>135276746
Still socialism, just a slower death than the commies. Capitalism, libertarianism, and civic nationalism are the only ways to create a functional and ideal society

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>>135283670
>civic Nationalism

Stop

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>>135283577
who are you talking to?

Something you'll learn early on, is that /pol/ of brainlets like: >>135283670
who think the word "socialism" means the same philosophy as marxism, ie, that there is one kind of socialism in history. They're never studied national socialism, marxist socialism, and probably haven't actually read any books on libertariainism or economics. They learned their "lolbergtarianism" from memes on /pol/ and Molyneux videos on youtube.

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>>135283881
Bump, thanks for this rare Hitler meme

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>>135280045

I like how you base your "arguments" on assumption while ignoring when you are proven wrong.

Like jews usually do.

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>>135283670

> civic nationalism are the only ways to create a functional and ideal society

t. pic related

>>135276746
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWhT-1S0hT0

Would you rather have this homogeneous Germany? Or the Shit-skin ridden one?

>>135284610
How is that Caliphate working for you Hans?

>>135285431
You cunts have imposed the miserable state the Germans live under upon them, yet you have the gall to blame them for it.

You kike serving allies never cease to disgusts me.

>>135285237
Well I think that's self-explainatory.. :D Allthough I think people should definetly be allowed to immigrate here, but there has to be much more regulation than there is right now. Also, quotas have to be used to ensure that Germans don't become a minority in their own country, which is pretty much what's happening right now.

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>>135285431

>when the kikebart readers brain short circuits: the post

kekles

>>135285850

>I dont want niggers, muslim, gooks and jews in my country
>Allthough I think people should definetly be allowed to immigrate here,

are you retarded?

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>>135284288
fresh OC

>>135286027
Did you read the rest of what I wrote you idiot? Do you think 'more regulations' means letting muslims pour in like they are right now?

>>135286235

we need deportations and nothing else.

>>135286361
Wer hat denn gesagt dass ich gegen Massenabschiebungen bin? :D

>>135286235
Well, if you allow migrants to breed with Native German a small bit at a time, they will breed non-German babies with German citizenship... Migrants should only be able to tour here, but not work here, (so (((they))) can't take over positions) and so that Germany stays homogeneous. In America, even if we were to cut off all immigration, we're still going to be out-bred completely by the Hispanics who are already here.

>>135286361
Ich finde nur dass Leute aus anderen Ländern hier einwandern dürfen so lange sie sich integrieren, gut verhalten, nicht dumm sind (IQ-Tests bei Einreise) und vorallem arbeiten. Und einer mittelalterlichen Hinterwäldlerreligion wie dem Islam angehören ist natürlich in dem Punkt Intelligenz ein ganz klares Ausschiedskriterium. So lange dann auch noch gut darauf geachtet wird, dass nicht wie jetzt alles voll mit Ausländern ist, sehe ich damit kein Problem.

>>135286690
There would be so few immigrants that they would be bred out of existence, not the other way around like it is right now.

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>>135286966
So basically only North-Eastern Asians, and Europeans?

>>135286590
I think because of what you said here >>135285850 about needing quotas and letting some migrants in.

>>135286966
>so lange sie sich integrieren, gut verhalten, nicht dumm sind (IQ-Tests bei Einreise) und vorallem arbeiten
You aren't concerned with the racial origin of those migrants, of whether they are of northern Europid racial stock, or if they are African, or w/e? You are aware that IQ is heavily correlated with race, as well as temperament and behavioral traits like propensity to violence, etc?

Yes that's propably what only letting smart working people into your country would look like.

>>135287478
Who are you replying to, you have to tag the post number or we don't know.

>>135285431
you realize the south is lost to the blacks and the mexicans right?

>>135286966

Integration ist eine Lüge und nicht real.

Nach deinem system hättest du ja nichts dagegen wenn 10 Millionen 130 IQ neger hierherkommen und arbeiten oder?

>>135285237
i miss germany

>>135287366
I know there are correlations, but setting up IQ-Tests for immigration would be much smarter than just filtering out races. I mean, why would a country want stupid people to migrate there? If someone has an IQ of 83 but is white, I still don't see the point of letting them into the country. If someone has an IQ of 154 but is black, what reason do I have not to let him into the country? I think the most important thing is to make sure that minor ethnic groups stay a minority, and it has to be such a small minority that they can't start to form ghettos or groups of black people.

>>135287863
Ich hätte sowasvon was dagegen, hast du nicht gelesen was ich vorher geschrieben hab? Ich hätte kein Problem wenn über einen Zeitraum von z.B. 10 Jahren vielleicht 100 IQ130 Neger her kommen. Wie gesagt, man muss aufpassen dass man nicht auf einmal die Strassen voll Ausländern hat so wie es momentan bei uns der Fall ist.

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>>135288162
>setting up IQ-Tests for immigration would be much smarter than just filtering out races
No, because of the phenomenon of "regression to the mean", ie, even if you let in high IQ individuals from races with lower average IQ, if they mix with the higher average IQ population (yours) their offspring will tend to regress to the average of the two previous filial generations' averages. So, a sub-saharan immigrant who produces offspring with a German, will produce children that "tend toward the mean" of their parent's populations -- overall, to the detriment of the higher average IQ population, with no benefit to the foreign population, because the children stay in the high IQ country. Its like importing any invasive species, there are complex and potentially destructive effects. That doesn't even cover other aspects of inheritance, like MAO-A frequency (violence gene). You have to think of your nation from a "genetic infrastructure" standpoint:

https://youtu.be/qm9kHsg0TsM
https://www.gwern.net/docs/2003-murray-human-accomplishment.pdf
https://youtu.be/Nxv2x0DJonk
https://pastebin.com/Q1hMEC4a
http://humanbiologicaldiversity.com/

>>135277471
Fuck off faggot. We are German and national pride is only limited to Germans. Fucks the goth and the anglos. I will not stand up for any other people other than Saxons. WW2 will not be forgotten.

>>135288791
That's interesting, didn't even think about that but honestly you're right.

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>>135288861
>We are German and national pride is only limited to Germans
nice try, Ahmed. Many people here have studied Natsoc extensively, so you can't bullshit.

>>135289166
There is nothing wrong with sticking up for your people. If your pure Saxon your better than an anglo-saxon, even if they are some part saxon. That is were Adolf went wrong.

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>>135290425
>There is nothing wrong with sticking up for your people
No one attacked your people. Your spreading a false divide and conquer meme, that "Natsoc was just German nationalism". It was much, much more than that; it had an entire racial philosophy and vision for humanity, especially for the Aryan peoples of Europe. When you claim it was "just German nationalism", and you spit random hatred on others, you're just being the D&C shill. If you wear that flag, then you should know better.
>where Adolf went wrong
I didn't see an argument, you're just shit-talking.

>>135290425
More like pure dick in their ass.

Am I surprised that the most replies in the thread about NS is from Hans and Shinji?

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>>135276746
Go read a book, non-human.
Also NYPA.

One little thing I want to understand. How does people of different nationalities promoting national socialism can be united under flag of national socialism. Like... Am I dumb and can't understand something about national socialism?

>>135290859
What are you on about the ideology was possible for everyone but the Third reich was German only and you probably know this already don't you?

>>135289166
And taking quotes from the beginning of the war is quite funny I'm sure he was quite fond of the british when they were bombing his towns to shit maybe you should take a long think why the v2 rocket was called Vergeltungswaffe "retaliation weapon" and was aimed at the british population

>>135290859
You fucking prove my point. Look at the amount of diversity amongst all those people. They may be white but some white populations are better than others. Saxons are at the top. Any Saxon who mixes with any other blood is a sellout. Goths, Anglos, and Dagos are lesser forms of white. Thanks for proving my point.

>>135291236
shit the fuck up red cancer.

>>135291932
Look at this white bitch. "Muh blood, we kangz and vikingz"
Sit your bitch ass down henrich

>>135291953

But... bitch... you're basically NS yourself. Are you dumb or baitin?

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>>135276746
Socialism is always shit. NS is the best of a bad bunch because at least the government is helping people who deserve to be in the country as opposed to what we have in western Europe where it's just a free for all.

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>>135291803
>the Third reich was German only
And what did it mean to "be German" according to Natsoc racialism? What did "Germanization" (Germanisierung) mean to Himmler, for example? (pic related)
>tl;dr
I just assume every D&C post is a D&C shill, ie, a non-Europid. You're the only ones that gain from reinforcing race-blind ethno-chauvenism. You also butcher Natsoc philosophy, and when you are shown to be wrong, you simply call Hitler "mistaken", as if you weren't actually Natsoc or couldn't be bothered to study their views in the first place.

>>135291932
>You fucking prove my point
>Saxons are at the top
It's not a ranked list: their positions are arbitrary, not hierarchical lol

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>>135292323
Read the thread, brainlet:

http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1501256574144.jpg
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>>135122980
>>135122980
>>135122980
>>135122980

>>135276746
> unironically asking /pol/ to redpill you

That's where you fucked up newfag. Most people on here are just as shitty as SJW's or Muslims who think everyone should believe in Sharia Law.

>>135292416
Here have the actual goals of hitlers party

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Program

4. Only a member of the race can be a citizen. A member of the race can only be one who is of German blood, without consideration of creed. Consequently, no Jew can be a member of the race.

5.Whoever has no citizenship is to be able to live in Germany only as a guest, and must be under the authority of legislation for foreigners.

8. Any further immigration of non-citizens is to be prevented. We demand that all non-Germans, who have immigrated to Germany since 2 August 1914, be forced immediately to leave the Reich.

And i haven't called Hitler "mistaken" maybe you should look at the id's but judging how you are butchering Natsoc and portraying it as "white nationalism" is quite funny

The third reich was ETHNO nationalistic
NOT WHITE nationalistic

national socalism was promoted to be used in every country but having their own version of it

You literally sound to me like some dumb white nationalist that uses national socalist as attraction

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>>135292889
That's right, go to >>>/r/eddit to get redpilled, or maybe >>>/jidf.org/ amirite, Moishe?

>>135293047
>Wikipedia
into the trash it goes. Here's /nsg/, full of primary documents, not assembled by leftists pushing anti-NS/fascist leftoid agenda:

https://pastebin.com/vPZPyDhK

>>135292276
Basically what! albino wanabee nigger.
You're another asshole who thinks they big and made some impact on the world. Go get your ass kicked by some other white faggots and cry for some help. Niggers got beat by chinks, suck my dick you manlet white nigger

>>135292600
Thanks for that. I could only be bothered to read the first quarter but it looks like you got blown the fuck out my friend.

>>135291932
You continue to reinforce my point. Hierarchy is relative to the person, this as a Saxon, Saxons are better than other forms of white people. I am not saying they aren't white, but they are inferior because Saxons are not the same as Anglos, Goths, Slavs, Iberians, or Dagos. Anglos think they're better than us, why shouldn't we, Saxons, elevate our people. You are the kind to have us mix together so much that we have no uniqueness, no tradition, no culture, just one cauldron of whiteness. Saxons want to keep their history and pride. Anglos should do the same.

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>>135293193
Except thats a few points from the original parties programm quite funny how you are lecturing people about National socalism without even knowing these you are quite a joke.

>>135276746
Ok let me try to give you the basic principles.

>strict hirarchy
This ensures there is always ultimately 1 person responsible. As you can see in our country today responsibility is important.
>Ethnonationalist
All foreigners lose citizenship but are accepted as guests. This includes jews of course.
>banning usury
income without work is forbidden
>social policys
Healthcare
Education
mother's cross
youth organisations

>>135293229

Homie, you have to quit smoking that crack-cocaine you're having and open your heart to God.

Maybe there's still a place for you on a cotton plantation somwhere around your place.

>>135276746
would love to.
1. social policy
natsoc is based on the way nature works. we look to nature for how to improve our people. we believe that some groups and individuals are genetically beter than others and those who cant compete will die off on their own preventing inferior genes from spreading. we believe society should be organized the way god and nature designed it to. we are about the love and encouragement for our people not dgrading others as the jews would have you believe.
2. economy
in marxist socialism a man is entitled to an equal share of goods and services no matter how much or little he produces. in national socialism a man is entitled to only what he contributes or what is equal in value to what he contributes. people who do more for society get more money, rights and priveleges than those who mooch off it and contribute nothing, like a jew. we stil believe in controlled economy but one that is privately owned rather than government owned like marxists.
3. leadership
adolf hitler. need i say more?

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>>135279072
Very amusing watching a brainlet "argue" while he bases all his beliefs of sceptic brainlets.

>>135276746
Fascist society works as an army. The individual has the duty to better himself to strengthen the group. Rank by merit, treat your immediate superior as a father, someone to learn from and to respect.
No man is left behind.

The family and specially the woman is venerated as mother and wife.
Education focused on science and physical education.

>>135293671
What you gonna do vlad? Get raped by some goofy fucks from the Austrian alps? Sit your poor ass down before I also you.

>>135298435
why do niggers always tell people to sit down over the internet when the majority of people online are already sitting down at their computer... Stupid.