>be me >be 31 year-old engineer >make around $120k per

>>135134705
You don't need a robot, give me 50k and I'll do what you want.

>>135134802
but then i have to deal with your shit afterward

>>135134705
I firmly believe everyone in the future will have a perfect robot ai companion.

>>135134705
>He finds talking to a machine a suitable replacement for human-to-human interaction

You are truly subhuman

>>135134705
Truly a pitiful existence.

Get married or kill yourself.

How did you save so much money? I am in the same boat wage and age wise. I have pissed all of it against the wall. What the fuck.

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>>135134962
>leaf

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>>135134993
>leaf

>>135135058
>How did you save so much money?
i only spend money on food and upgrades for my pc. i still drive a relatively shitty car (2006 car i bought for ~20k at the time). i don't vacation. i don't go out. i don't do much at all. it's not a "pitiful existance" since i have absolutely 0 desire to go out and when my coworkers manage to drag me to a bar after work i just wish i was at home shitposting or playing vidya.

>>135135058
>I have pissed all of it against the wall.

You're doing the right thing. OP sounds like a bitter stick in the mud.

>>135135243
>OP sounds like a bitter stick in the mud.
>being this jelly

>>135135238
That's pretty sad, but whatever floats your boat.

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>>135134705
ftfy

>>135135238
you are the definition of money can't buy happiness

>>135135408
No, hes living the neet lifestyle (minimial w/ low social interaction) and gets money to fuck around.

The neet dream.

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>>135135408
>That's pretty sad
how so? I am very content and happy with my life. When i take a vacation from work--a week, let's say--I will spend the entire week not leaving my house except to go to the gym and get food. My ideal vacation is spending it without having to interact with anyone except through the internet, on my terms.

What i think is actually sad are the people that go out and "do things" just so that they can take a picture of themselves doing something to put online

Fuck yes - this is the way to live. I live in North San Diego.. Las Vegas is my backyard playground. I cant stand the shithole L.A and its insane traffic.

This guy has the idea people. If you are young, go work hard get a reputable degree in the STEM field. Then the rewards will be plenty.

I work in pharmaceutical field as a Bio Chemist. Make plenty of money. I live in rich suburb with NO HOA. I take weekend getaways alot, mostly to Las Vegas.

I fucked tons of bitches during my time but I am now married. But didnt get married till late 30's to a late 20's to a right winging woman. I still do whatever I want and she gives two shits what I do but I dont fuck other bitches though.

>>135135631
>implying i'm not happy
>implying i'd be happy if i pretended to like going out and doing dumb social shit that bores me to tears
>implying i'd be happy if i married some succubus
ask any married guy if they're actually happy

>31 years old
>£360,000 house, no mortgage
>£108,000 in bank
>~£30,000 worth of bitcoins
>~£10,000 of etherium
>Make between £150,000 and £300,000 a year
>Lift, work out, do BJJ

Shame im such a massive autist.

>>135135650
>money to fuck around
>doing nothing but shiposting like a NEET
>doesn't even get the freetime and stressfree lifestyle a NEET does

the only thing he has got going is he can retire early but who knows if he will still be alive/4chan will exist/the world won't have ended

>>135135777
>that wage range

what do you do?

>>135135809
>doesn't even get the freetime and stressfree lifestyle a NEET does
but what if i enjoy my work? it's intellectually challenging, requires creativity, is rewarding

>>135135885
well that's good

>>135135673
Those people are sad too, but yours is sad because you don't have anything great to live for, you're living just for pleasure and to see the next day. No kids, no leadership.

>>135134705
>$120k/year
>$400k in investments
>31 years old

Something doesn't add up here senpai

OP is the holier-than-thou asshole that nobody likes to be around because he's a fuckin drag on everyone's morale. his entire post is a complete fabrication, and it's almost sad.

>I'm somewhat wealthy and women throw themselves at me and I always turn them away, instead I pay for sex with "women" that would only be around me if I pay them. I have no desire to interact with the human race in social settings.

Wow.

>>135135650
Neet dream is for a teenager, not an adult who wants to live up for something

>>135134705
Op get yourself an autistic 15-18 year old waifu who would never get married otherwise because they want to sit at home all day shitposting on 4chan

Theyre easy to meet on the internet and convince to carry your children

>>135134802

That's the point, he doesn't want to deal with a money-grabbing whore. At least a robowhore's motives are pure and they don't cause drama or betrayal.

>>135135922
i've been working in my field since I was 24, been making over $100k for 4 years now, and my living expenses are about $35-40k per year. the taxes are what kills me

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>>135134705
>>>135134802
>but then i have to deal with your shit afterward

>>135136023
1: i'm not a pedo (hurr durr 15 year gurls are physically mature) fuck off
2: they're fat/skinnyfat. i don't know if i mentioned this but i also lift and i don't like women who don't work out, themselves

>>135135983
>and women throw themselves at me
i never said that. nice strawman

>>135135769
If you have to justify being happy to a bunch of people online then you probably have some problems. You're lying anyways, but I'm just saying.

>>135134705
You're a pathetic shill. Go die motherfucker.

>>135135996
Like the joys of teaching your kids how to pickpocket?

>>135136227
>shill
i don't think you know what thsi word means, leaf

>>135135352
I'm not jelly. I suppose it really comes down to perception. A life without friends, girlfriends, or family sounds unbearable. But if you are so oriented, be it. I will say having such an aversion to human interaction is abnormal. Most people find talking face to face better than talking to strangers on the internet.

>>135136284
>A life without friends, girlfriends, or family sounds unbearable.
to me, a life filled with a bunch of people that i have to manage interactions with sounds like absolute hell

>>135135777

Its probably your looks if anything boyo. If you really have that kind of capital, you should consider surgically optimizing your facial aesthetics.

>>135134705
You should be having 6 to 8 kids.

>>135136087
Working for 7 years at let's say a generous average of 100k = 700k minus those taxes you mentioned = 490k minus living expenses of 40k for 7 years = 210k

You are 190k short senpai.

>>135136283
You're a shareblue employee spreading MGTOW bullshit. It's impossible to prefer a sex robot rather than the company of a woman, no fucking way.

>>135135526
Aren't you supposed to be on the lam, skippy?

>>135136328
>to me, a life filled with a bunch of people that i have to manage interactions with sounds like absolute hell

Whatever makes you happy.

>>135134705
>women 23 year peak smv

That's not even close. Women peak at around 16-18.

>>135135915
what's great about kids or leadership that can't be found in other things? arbitrary things to find happiness in, like ice cream, hiking, or scalping people.

>>135136492
... and there goes my comfy life.

as it stands, i have nothing at all to worry about. i have a high-skill job and job security. even if i lose my job i could live for years with no worries while i find another.

>>135136528
>investments do not develop interest
i had money from family before i even started working. grandparents started a fund for me which was somewhere around $90k when i finished college at age 24

>>135136594
>It's impossible to prefer a sex robot rather than the company of a woman, no fucking way
you have to be 18 to post here

>>135134705
Just find a girl in her young 20's they'll be into it.

>>135134705
Late 2020s-2030s is when you'll be able to get a sex-bot for 100 grand in current dollars.
>>135135238
Tell me, rich anon, what is your build like.
Let me, a poor slav with a gtx 960, bask in someone else's glory.

>>135136839
>the me me me generation

>>135136247
Kek'd, at least they won't get shot

>>135136839
>just start with a free 100k

It's so simple!

>>135136839
who are you going to leave your money to when you die since you don't do anything other than shitpost?

>>135136795
The legacy you leave, the feeling when you will be older that people will look up to you and praise you and love you.
Your existence will be more than just you.

>>135134705
Take some of your coin and have white children via a surrogate in Eastern Europe. Women being roastie whores is no excuse not to have white babies

>>135135769
I'm married, I'll answer it for you. I'm quite happy.

>>135135238
T. 31 year old child

If you are white and not ugly get yourself a good white woman and make white babies

>>135137056
A genetically modified perfect heir he'd pay a million for and get in his 60s, probably. With American healthcare - good shit he could afford, - he'll look like a forty year old and feel that, too.

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>>135134705
Thank anon for making white genocide easier. Nobody wants to kill others. You are a true patriot to the commitment of WYPIPO population control.

>>135134705

Why don't you buy yourself an ukrainian or russian post wife?

>>135137056
>just give me your money goy

>>135137239
>get yourself a good white woman
Impossible at this stage of civilization.
He can make one out of a rough diamond, though.

>>135136948
>Tell me, rich anon, what is your build like.
i upgrade as i go so some parts are older and some newer. my vid cards are 2 titans, though, and i have 4 large screens.

>>135136998
i haven't even touched that money so it didn't help me at all

>>135137142
i don't believe you

>>135137142
>white woman
they're all trash, mate

>>135137056
i don't give a shit i'll be dead

>>135137302
This guy seems like an anti-social autist. Best he doesn't have children.

>120k
>Engineer
>more than 300k in assets
>in Murica
>by the age of 31

Yeah, there is something fishy about your spaghetti. What kind of engineer are you? Computer Engineers are basically paid around 60k or very low 100k since most employers can hire a poo to do it for far less money.

>>135137328
You literally are going to be leaving all your money to the goodest goy of all..the US government

>>135137326
Money-grabbing, age like milk. Will divorce him.

>>135137094
I won't be around for the legacy I leave. enjoying the feeling you get when people look up to you is no more or less arbitrary to prefer than enjoying the feeling of wet sand or enjoying the feeling of having punched someone you mildly dislike. you thinking one source of happiness is superior to another is nothing but religion.

>Your existence will be more than just you.
literally impossible. you cannot perceive outside of your first person perspective. you are religious.

>>135137407
don't talk to me anymore trust fund baby

>>135137407
>two titans
Jesus christ, my cock can't get any harder.

>>135137239
women are a waste of time and resources.

>>135137411
>anti-social
you mean a-social. anti-social has a very specific meaning. when you finish high school you'll understand

>>135137412
>What kind of engineer are you?
biomedical. i don't want to say too much but i work in the bioimaging field and i have a part of a few patents

>>135136181
14/15/16 are the AOC in a ton of European countries and have been for a very long time with absolutely no concerns. They *are* physically mature and as far as their mental maturity...The maturity and quality of a woman's personality is related to their experience with womanly things (something you must give her) and her intelligence, but age doesn't matter. A dumb 30 year old is just as insufferable.
2. Wew. Im really sorry to say that you have insanely limited your dating pool.
The answer to this problem is to get a skinnyfat girlfriend, and make her work out. Make her insecure and make it very clear you want her to be fit, and help her get fit.

>>135134962
>implying that you will be able to tell the difference once their AI can pass the Touring test.

>>135136703
You have o realize that graph is warped by the law. It's hard for American men to look past decades of being Jewed about the nature of women, and especially so on this facet because if youre into a teenage girl, you are a pedo lawbreaker. Nevermind biology or the fact that most of our history we've been wifing our girls early(for good reason).

>>135137470

Perception =/= existance

You seem to live quite the shallow life.Not that shallow people couldn't be happy though.

>>135137475
>keep posting in my thread
>don't talk to me anymore
Superior Nigger Intelligence on display here

>>135137529
2 was way overkill, though, as the most graphics-intensive game that I play, Arma III maxed-out, still doesn't overly tax a single card

>>135137662
>2. Wew. Im really sorry to say that you have insanely limited your dating pool.
>The answer to this problem is to get a skinnyfat girlfriend, and make her work out. Make her insecure and make it very clear you want her to be fit, and help her get fit.
i'm not interested in babysitting some woman

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>>135137407
Meanwhile I thought my 1080ti were overkill. Nice build bro!

>>135137411
We need as many whites as possible to have kids at this point

>>135137470
You're very selfish, and I'm not religious. When your kids with your own blood and similar features extend your existence is not religion. Its a fact. They will live by your guidance and discipline and continue your line.

>>135137861
Do you know what a woman is?

It sounds like youre just fucking gay anon or have incredibly high standards that 99% of women wont be able to meet, due to the nature of women. For all your supposed success you will be a genetic failure.

>>135137851
you literally cannot prove that anything exists outside of your perception. this is basic stuff, philosophy 101. your existence is your perception, 100%.

>shallow life
compared to what? devoting a majority of my time and resources to finding a mucus lathered orifice to put my penis inside of?

>>135137923
>They will live by your guidance and discipline and continue your line.
thinking this is inherently superior to eating a bag of doritos is religious.

>>135136336
It's mostly about confidence and being at least somewhat extroverted.
You can have tons of money and be decently good looking, if you are the silent one in your social circles you'll still not get any unless your friends basically shove some gild digger in your face and tell her that you are loaded.

>>135134705
whats the tax rates like in the US?

how did you save up that much wonga?

>>135138103
Live by the moment then, because it is the only thing you desire. I will do both :^)
Bon apettite

>>135137923
>They will live by your guidance and discipline and continue your line.
explain coal burners and rapefugees welcome attention whores, please.

>>135138160
pls read the thread

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>>135134705
Fucking a 'Robot' is just masturbation with a machine. You fucking jackoff wanker. Real men fuck real women. A robot will NEVER have consciousness, emotions, pheromones or awareness. You fucking jackoff.

>>135138243
A robot can simulate all of those. The pheromones would be the most difficult but also the least important.

>>135138205
I don't live by the moment. I plan ahead and make sure that my future will contain happiness. you literally have to pretend that people who think differently than you are "selfish" or "short-sighted" to feel like your decisions are correct. you have to make up poetry about "continuing your line" and "spreading your features and guidance" like religious doctrine. you are a religious nutjob.

>>135138243
>Fucking a 'Robot' is just masturbation with a machine.
and?

>Real men fuck real women.
no true scotsman fucks real women

> A robot will NEVER have consciousness, emotions, pheromones or awareness.
good

>You fucking jackoff.
not for long, hopefully

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>>135134705
>17 year old is just as attractive as a 28 year old

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>>135134705
And it will never feel as good as your fucking hand. Stop fall for the (((bullshit))) (((AI sex robot))). Make your own you fucking retard.

>>135138212
They may have the correct instincts, but choosing who to build your future with is very important, and this is where women are often poor decision makers.

>>135137142
>I'm married, I'll answer it for you. I'm quite happy.
I'm happy as well.

>>135138045
>you literally cannot prove that anything exists outside of your perception. this is basic stuff, philosophy 101. your existence is your perception, 100%.

You can't even prove that anything in your perception exists. And what about the things that exist only in your perception and not in the perception of others? Schizo?

>compared to what? devoting a majority of my time and resources to finding a mucus lathered orifice to put my penis inside of?

Compared to thinking about anything else than shitposting and palying vidya.

>>135138243
>I spend a majority of my time and resources trying to secure a mucus lathered orifice to put my penis inside of
pitiable. women's emotions and consciousness are historically and observably useless. waste of time.

>>135138045
No, to finding love. And then to making love, making children you will love.

>>135138513
>No, to finding love. And then to making love
nice meme

You sound sad man.

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>>135138327
If you're a retard you can be fooled to think you're fucking a woman. But your body will still know you're masturbating into a silicone shell that verbalizes 'Oh you're such a big man, fuck me harder!' Don't be a (((tool)))
>be you
>can't do a proper Turing Test on a Silicone shell
>be fooled into thinking you're not just masturbating

>>135138513
>to find love
Are you 12? Marriage is a reproductive contract it has nothing to do with love.

>>135135238
Frugality is one thing but it sounds like you derive absolutely no joy from life. It's no surprise that you'd want a robot waifu when you're living like a robot yourself.

>>135138395
>You can't even prove that anything in your perception exists.
descartes did about 400 years ago. basic, basic stuff.

>And what about the things that exist only in your perception and not in the perception of others?
that's part of your existence. basic, basic, basic stuff. phil 101.

>Compared to thinking about anything else than shitposting and palying vidya.
let's use video games as an example, since you brought it up. what is inherently superior to playing video games?

>>135138160

>live in a suburban area of texas
>cheap housing
>no state income tax
>profit

I'm female and don't want bf too.

make around 41万($4,000) in this month.(Mechanical designer)
I'm not so rich...but$4,000 is enough for me.

I don't want be shitty house wife.
men are good at job but they are turn into super lazy in housework.I don't want them.

>>135138598
>it sounds like you derive absolutely no joy from life
wrong. i am very content with my life.

>>135138587
The body is much easier to fool than the mind. I might know that it's a robot but my dick don't care.

>>135138659
timestamped tits or gtfo larping david-kun

>>135138686
>The body is much easier to fool than the mind
that's what the VR is for

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>>135138339
>Fucking a 'Robot' is just masturbation with a machine.
and?

>Be you
>not know the difference between masturbation and fucking a woman

>Real men fuck real women.
no true scotsman fucks real women

LOL

> A robot will NEVER have consciousness, emotions, pheromones or awareness.
good

>Just use your hand, it will feel better.

>You fucking jackoff.
not for long, hopefully

That's where you are (((fooled))) fucking a silicone sleeve IS masturbation.

>>135138328
Again, I'm not religious, I do not believe in god. What I do believe in is basic human needs. One of them is making a family and not just living by yourself. We werent made for that. We need the companionship and loved ones for stability and for the future. Happiness and well life is more than just a bag of doritos and feel good.

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>>135138745
>fucking up greentext this badly
>all this reddit spacing

>>135138513
loving women is a waste of time and resources. I know this because I've done it multiple times and learned the hard way. I've had a more positive experience watching a single episode of a child's cartoon than a three year relationship. you people hold subjective axioms as factual, it's religion.

>>135134705
High functioning ASD?
I'm curious, do you dislike going out because you're an introvert, or because you're hyper conscientious? Sounds like the latter is the case for you, no?

You do you, but consider you might actually want a family at some point and it's gonna get harder to start one the longer you wait.

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>>135138686
The body is much easier to fool than the mind. I might know that it's a robot but my dick don't care.

>Be you
>Never fucked a woman
>Dick doesn't know the difference between a pussy and a silicone sleeve.

>>135137596
Spoken like a good goy

>>135134705
having a boyfriend is better

you can actully trust another white man in a relationship

>>135138650
I don't know anything about US tax rates but anything over about $55k is taxed at 42% in the UK and it's a fucking killer

Then there's dozens of other smaller taxes to pay on the shit you buy.

>>135134705
That graph is retarded. Men reach their peak far before 36. It's something like 28 or so for men, and 19 or so for women.

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>>135138847
>>135138745 (You)
>fucking up greentext this badly
>all this reddit spacing

Suck my dick spacing-Nazi.

>>135138103
This is why atheists should be executed. They don't share the common goals and values real humans do. They are mindless enemies of mankind that want to kill us all so they can have as much doritos and cartoon horse porn they want. Executing them would be self-defense.

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>>135134705
Imagine being so pathetic that money is the only thing that's important to you.

what are you going to use all that money on, you don't seem to do anything at all, certainty not getting a family. must be some lucky cousins out there that get your money when you off yourself.

>>135139000
Kek is a jealous god.

>>135138763
I didn't say you are religious about god. I am saying you are religious about what "human needs" are, what "family" is and it's relationship to "happiness", and--

>We werent made for that.
you sure you don't believe in god?

>We need the companionship and loved ones for stability and for the future.
and yet here I am, alone in my apartment happy as fuck every single day.

>Happiness and well life is more than just a bag of doritos and feel good.
pure religion. how is fucking some stupid animal and having it shit out your kids inherently superior to enjoying a nice movie about space aliens?

>>135138667
Your word choice is very telling. Even you don't actually think you're happy.

>>135138659
How old are you?

>>135138903
>I'm curious, do you dislike going out because you're an introvert, or because you're hyper conscientious?
when i go out with people i get insanely bored with everything about the situation

>they're talking about shit i've seen last week, i've seen the funny memes, it's old news. they have nothing interesting to add to the conversation
>most of what they say is wrong, misrepresented, or complete bullshit. i've learned not to point out where people are wrong because they're wrong all the time
>i'm not interested in shallow movies, tv shows, popular music, etc. i can't stand all the obvious plot holes, continuum errors, unrealistic situations, etc
stuff like that. i get really, really, really bored when i have to talk to people irl when it's not work-related

>>135138936
>here, work for another man to make a meager amount of money so that a female will find you stable enough to let you put your penis inside her vagina
>there is literally nothing more important than this
and I'm the tool?

>>135135879

Run a business. My income varies by how much I decide to pay myself in dividends (i.e. how much I want to get raped by HMRC).

>>135136336
I thought for a long time I must be ugly, but Ive often been called handsome, had a couple of girls tell me how gorgeous I am and one who said she thought if we had a baby it would be super attractive.

I think im probably a 6, maybe a temporary 7 with confidence and beer goggles.

I've had rock bottom self esteem for years, but I've been slowly evolving into my final form. More muscle, clear skin, corrected posture, more confidence. I've always looked about 10 years younger than I am, and I think it puts a lot of women off. When I was 18 I still looked like I was 14 or 15.

>>135134705
>>have over $200k in the bank

you're losing 5-10% a year on that, get working

>>135138647

You can't exist without concept, so anything in the concept you exist in does also, de facto, exist. There is a reason thats reaaaally basic basic stuff and why you are clinging to an ancient bearded man.

>let's use video games as an example, since you brought it up. what is inherently superior to playing video games?

Bascially anything that has any value in the infinity, aka bettering yourself as a soul/person/existance. Well of course you can also dump all your time into shitposting and playing dota.

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>>135134705
You're missing out on life bro. Finding a real woman who actually is your perfect counterpart is a feeling that is truly indescribable. Having kids is another one.

Met this girl when I was 17. We banged, I impregnated her. Was homeless at the time and said fuck it, let's move in together see where this goes. 15 years later, a lot of fighting and banging and maturing together and we're married and have a second child.

Idk honestly that's just my experience and my opinion. To each his own, you do you. I'm also broke as shit so there ya go haha

>>135134705
>have over $200k in the bank
Why would anyone keep $200k in the bank? What a waste. For any young newfags reading this, keep enough $ in your bank for an emergency fund (3-6 months worth of living expenses) and put every penny after that into investments. Much more profitable that way.

>>135139000
what makes you think I'm atheist?

>>135139104
>when i go out with people i get insanely bored with everything about the situation
>>they're talking about shit i've seen last week, i've seen the funny memes, it's old news. they have nothing interesting to add to the conversation
>>i'm not interested in shallow movies, tv shows, popular music, etc. i can't stand all the obvious plot holes, continuum errors, unrealistic situations, etc
You sound really damn vapid.

>>135139098
Ofc Christmas cake age.

>>135134802
TOP FUCKING KEK!

>>135138994
noob destroyed

>>135139014
>projecting this hard

>>135139090
every day i look forward to going to work and solving problems/being creative/being intellectually challenged and i also look forward to coming home and gaming with my arma/dota/tf2/overwatch/cs friends.

>>135139190
>>135139248
i want 5 years of security in the bank

>>135138860
>I've done it multiple times and learned the hard way
So you're a bitter spinster? This explains things.
Just be miserable alone and fuck your couch cushions.
Being a genetic dead end suits you.

>>135135769
>ask any married guy if they're actually happy

I'm happy, been married 10 years and have 4 healthy white children

Joos win, you're a good goy.

>>135134705
spend it, before USD becomes worthless i.e. 2018

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>>135137645
Asocial, then. I'm going to quite honest that i find people as spiritual dead, unempathetic, and clinical as you to be repulsive. Like fleshy insects, aliens from another world, the dead eyed lepers of humankind. Someone i don't trust and don't want around me because we are incompatible at the foundation.

But i also understand everyone is tied to their nature. The human experience is not something you 'get' rationally, it's partly instinctual. It's like explaining to someone why music sounds pleasant. You just get it or you don't. What does 'happiness' even mean to someone like you? Surely something very different from myself and most people. There is inherent limit to communication in this.

>>135134705
Shift women to the left 10 and it might be close

>>135139062
You really need to relax a little.
I said 'made' as in evolution, we are tribal animals not solitary hunters.
If u feel happy being alone then good for you. You will still look sad to most people'.i dont need ur opinion if u care or not im just stating facts.
U really have a bad perspective about love in general, i cannot make u see that in the future being old and alone is a very sad existence and no friend will ever come close as a wife and ur children for companionship. Please stop projecting ur religious hate onto people too btw, it makes u look bad

>>135139058
hey OP answer this, what is your plan in life.

>>135139262
Oh, so you must be older than 30.
No wonder you do not want bf. You are trash material in Japan.
Only hope for you now - gajin.

>>135135777
>>£108,000 in bank

Why are you keeping this much in cash and not sticking it in a tracker fund or even in short term corporate bonds?

You're giving away money by having it just sitting there.

>>135139235
>You can't exist without concept, so anything in the concept you exist in does also, de facto, exist.
you can't affirm or deny that anything beyond what you can perceive exists. how would you do so? explain.

>clinging to an ancient bearded man.
descartes only made one contribution to philosophy of many minds over the years, and I disagree with most of what he said. and he still destroys your argument with his most famous quotation.

>aka bettering yourself as a soul/person/existance
"bettering" is subjective or relative. to a native american, bettering themselves may have involved being good scalpers or good at handling peyote intoxication. as I said, you are religious.

>>135139296
>i want 5 years of security in the bank
bad move, instead invest in liquid assets with no volatility like well regarded artworks

that way you're not losing money and your asset is secure, people with big money keep all their investment artwork in a special storage facility that exists with no nationality next to the Airport in Zurich, tax free, artworks are the same as cash so long as they are insured by Lloyds of London you can bring them to any bank that specializes in this type of transaction and they will issue you a line of credit for the insured amount, artwork same as cash, travel with your money anywhere you want to go tax free

>>135139253
I didn't assume anything about you, I agree with your statement.
>thinking this [survival of the human race] is inherently superior to eating a bag of doritos is religious.
This is the most obvious, basic reason for why we need religion, so we don't just jerk off and eat doritos to extinction like the atheist movement is fighting for.

>>135135922

Not hard actually. Assuming he didn't fuck around and kept expenses low which is entirely possibly. Also with recent upswing in market his invests could have ballooned.

Biggest is that he lived reasonably. Not city and not buy a fucking car every year will allow you to do that.

>>135139597
I know, I keep planning on doing something with it but running business is basically 99% of my brainpower.

I don't even know where to begin.

>>135137668
>Touring test

Murrican education

>>135139297
>bitter
this is what people say when they literally cannot comprehend that someone doesn't want to devote a significant amount of time to putting their penis inside of an orifice. I'm not bitter, I'm a lot happier not wasting my time with a gender that can't contribute to science or philosophy because of how mentally insufficient they are, and I pity people who follow their animal instincts to the point of wasting their entire lives chasing them.

>Just be miserable alone and fuck your couch cushions.
I have been nothing but on a steadily increasing level of happiness for years now, and I only see more pleasant times ahead.

>Being a genetic dead end suits you.
wow I care sooo so much about things that happen after I stop existing. you're religious.

Why you dont just continue fucking escorts?
I cant think about sexual intercourse with robots.
I thin our preferences on girls are the same. You just need the sexual satisfaction for them, but dont want be their gifter. But i like at sex that girls want to sleep with me, this mindthing, pushes my ego and the orgasm.
Can't think about having sex with cold robots. Or i mean i can think, but it would be only some advanced masturbation.
But i think on longterm escorts are the better way for you, you dont need to clean them, no technical problems. So i dont understand your problems. You are financial independent, you are no weirdo and not too beta to go for hookers.
You say you are happy with your anti social live. Where is the Problem OP. Perhaps buy some good fleshlights for advanced masturbations and continue the escort thing and just live your life like you always did

What's ur dota mmr though

>Guy does what he wants with his life and hurts no one
>/pol/ REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEs for 150 posts
Jesus christ.

>>135139487
>we are tribal animals not solitary hunters.
so you make all of your decisions based off of your instincts?

>i cannot make u see that in the future being old and alone is a very sad existence and no friend will ever come close as a wife and ur children for companionship
that's because you only use poetry and subjectivity to defend the claim instead of facts or logic. you're right, you can't convince me of your beliefs using opinions and no valid reasoning.

>Please stop projecting ur religious hate onto people too btw
what hate? I am being benevolent as hell right now, allocating some of my precious time to explain to people that they are living like animals using poems and instincts as their worldviews, that could be lifechanging for some.

>>135139546
>gaijin

yellow fevers are 90% sexist...no thanks.

>>135140050
I'm starting to think that there are more females on /pol/ than we are lead to believe.

Only a woman can get butthurt over a successful man doing what he wants.

>>135139257
>You sound really damn vapid.
that's how i feel about almost all entertainment and everything people talk about to eachother

>>135139633
i'd buy guns before i buy art

>>135139954
4.4k solo, 3.9k team

>>135139667
I definitely agree that societies need moral axioms to function properly at least with our current level of technology. on a personal level? I'm not going to sacrifice my precious life upholding society for others, evidence that abstaining from such views is detrimental to society.

I'm no atheist, though, too educated. something more along the lines of a cognitive relativist and phenomenologist. either way, yes, nothing healthy for a social fabric.

>>135140180
timestamped tits or your're a larping david-kun

>>135140106
You keep confusing poetry with reality.
Being old and alone is sad. There is no way in hell thats happy existence. It is hate or bitterness because you keep bringing it into the convo, stop.

>>135139613
You're arguing against a 15-year-old brainlet trying to rationalize his existence. I want to answer to this, though:
>you can't affirm or deny that anything beyond what you can perceive exists. how would you do so? explain.
You don't have to perceive things for them to be real. Some things are intangible, invisible and impossible to observe, but they still exist. For instance, a gravedigger might dig a hole, but a construction worker might dig a hole that looks exactly the same. So what makes them different? Both of the holes look the same and are made the same way, but something does make them different. There's some hidden information tied to them. That information will strongly affect what their future will be, even though on a physical level there's nothing to see. That information is of course 100 % within our minds, but since it can affect the physical world, is it not real?

By that logic, I'd say that our thoughts are real. And by extension, the stories we tell are real, on some level at least. Especially the biblical and mythological stories that have created the foundations of the western civilization.

>>135139613
>you can't affirm or deny that anything beyond what you can perceive exists. how would you do so? explain.

What you are saying is we can't trust our senses aka. Descrates, but isn't your person also a creation of an organ, the brains? Why should you trust the creation of mere another organ over the others? Of course that doesn't hold true if you believe there is more to humans than the organs, but you'd have to be religious to believe that no?

>"bettering" is subjective or relative. to a native american, bettering themselves may have involved being good scalpers or good at handling peyote intoxication. as I said, you are religious.

Define what you mean by religious? Anyone who isn't purely apathetic to everything?

>>135140180
It seems you have big experience in it.
But honestly, single woman after 30 years - pure disaster.
Why you even need your 410,000 yen?
I bet you also have brother or sister and they have family with kids already.

This is why suicide rates so high in Japan.
If your are really old single japanese woman (and not some proxy retard), i bet your thought about suicide already.
Isn't it alarming? Go find a man, even gajin, you can find decent one (which will not leave your after 3 years with his permanent visa).

>>135140144
I do spend, you might be confusing me for someone else. I feel immense pleasure when lying upon a cushioned surface in an environment controlled container raised from the earth, pure comfort. I love preparing and eating a meal upon bronzeware and malachite dishes, so beautiful. I love watching the little anime girls be cute on the screen. I love telling stories, and seeing people appreciate them. I love getting into arguments and seeing resulting salt. I could go on for hours, because I love everything I do and set up my life very carefully so that I could be in this position.

I don't see how you can ascertain that I hate socializing when I am literally interacting with people right now. your views on women and children are religious, that's why you bring them up.

>>135140748
stop replying to david-kun, idiot

>>135135750
>If you are young, go work hard get a reputable degree in the STEM field. Then the rewards will be plenty.

awful, terrible advice

>>135140180
>yellow fevers are 90% sexist...no thanks.
Do you realize where you are? We are all sexists here. Sexists, racists, transphobes and whatnot. Of course, many of us would argue that sexism is not a bad thing, since men tend to prefer being men and women tend to prefer being women. That implies adhering to gender roles to some extent at least. You'd most likely be happier taking care of your children, than working for some faceless corporation for a career that will in the end amount to nothing, since you'll die alone and heirless.

Yo, OP, do you have any friends or just work buddies?

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>>135140106
>I am being benevolent as hell right now, allocating some of my precious time to explain to people that they are living like animals

Jesus Christ. We are animals. That's the point. Human life is not inherently logical. You are living a handicapped existence but don't even know it.

>that could be lifechanging for some.

No normal, healthy person would want to live like you. You are a freak. Something is broken. You are like a person who is born blind and unable to conceive of colors.Untrustworthy and out of touch with humanity.

>>135140502
You can't reason with people like this. He is not normal. He reminds me strongly of pic related. Even his speech is the same. Definitely has some sort of autism.

>>135140502
>Being old and alone is sad.
religion. there are a million hermits in history that choose that lifestyle for a reason. regardless, I don't plan on being alone, I just don't waste my time with women because they are inherently uninteresting.

>There is no way in hell thats happy existence.
pure religion, you say it's reality when there are happy old alone dudes all over the planet. it's the religious ones like you that can't cope with being alone after spending decades clinging to some other person for emotional support and they die. old people like that become miserable because they lack emotional independence.

>It is hate or bitterness because you keep bringing it into the convo
I express no hatred. you are simply experiencing cognitive dissonance and this is enacting your fight/flight response, it's normal when speaking to someone who has a good argument against your worldviews.

>>135140180
go to donbass as sex tourist and reward the heroes of your choice. Maybe the father will never make it to Japan ;)

Women peak at 17.

>>135141067
do the people i've been gaming with online count? i've known a couple for 7 years or more, most of them for a few years

>>135137412

He's probably a real engineer. I'm pursuing petroleum engineering it is not unreasonable for me to expect six-figures straight out of school.

>>135140288
>Only a woman can get butthurt over a successful man doing what he wants.
you forgot about the bucket crabs

>>135135238
"Vacation" is not a verb, moron. Don't quit your day job, sweetie.

>>135140999
>Sexists, racists, transphobes and whatnot
This is basically japanese nation in the nutshell.
So i do not understand what she wants.

>>135140449
If you are a man you are built to sacrifice yourself as a hero. It's what you really want deep down like a woman wants to be saved and protected by that hero. The idea that what you really want is to jerk off and eat doritos is a recent idea that emerged from the death of God and the following age of consumerism. It's a delusion that leads nowhere.

>>135140797
yeah i thought you were op for some reason
he didn't reply to my other posts though
>your views on women and children are religious
i'll leave you to your ridiculous assumptions

>>135134705

And then you die. With no legacy. Where's the willingness to sacrifice for the greater good?

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>making $120k per year
>only having $200k saved

>>135141251
pretty sure that only applies to niggers though

That's a tough question, I would personally say no but Im not big into gaming.

>>135141156
>>135141325
Aimed for this.

>>135141253
>being this new

>>135139857
>I'm not bitter, I'm a lot happier
Yet you complain about the failures of your previous relationship just like a bitter spinster.
>steadily increasing level of happiness
The spinster doth protest too much. You're an estrogen addled woman.
>you're religious
So religious people are all about genetics now? I refuse to believe an engineer is this stupid. Just kill yourself now. Your life is meaningless and the sooner it ends the sooner you can stop caring.

>>135134705
Nigga find a decent young thing, isolate her from her family slowly and mold her to your slave. Key thing here is finding the right type of girl.

>>135141322
you'd be surprised. some of the guys i work with still try to jab at me for lifting regularly while they have mashed-potato bodies

>>135140557
>You're arguing against a 15-year-old brainlet trying to rationalize his existence.
I enjoy arguing against all types of people of all ages, intelligent or not.

>Some things are intangible, invisible and impossible to observe, but they still exist.
there is no way to prove that they exist if they are impossible to observe.

>That information is of course 100 % within our minds, but since it can affect the physical world, is it not real?
your mind is not separate from your existence in any way whatsoever. the mistake here is in assuming that things that exist in your mind are separate from physical reality. your mind is your physical reality, through and through. and of course stories are real. someone who believes 100% that they are being chased by ghosts is experiencing an existence of being chased by ghosts, even though another observer may be able to point out that it is not true from their perspective. this is what makes your perspective your existence.

>>135141306
>greater good
which is?

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>>135134705
If you're so successful just get yourself a nice teenage wife. Go join a club or something where lots of young girls can be found. Dancing, cooking, painting whatever. Ride up in a nice car dressed smartly and just ask some 19 year old hottie out.

She'll probably already have had tons of dick but at least she won't be completely used up and teenage girls fall so easy for older successful men. Also nothing beats seeing the faces of used up 30 something roasties when they see you out on the town with a 20 year old holding your arm.

>>135134705
Ideal life

>Those all Anons who think that they are better because they created some other goals in their lives and think that their goals are better than others simply because

Things that make people happy are subjective, some people like to spend time with nature, some like extremal sports and others just want to shitpost
Rising kids or fighting for your idea isn't objectively better than any other goal, you just make it more important by yourself
Leaving any kind of "legacy" is only rewarding if you make it rewarding, if you don't care about that it isn't important

I have absolutelly no interest in kids, I despise them, I dated one girl, it was nice, but not really worth the effort (she wasn't some slut, nice and all, I was just to lazy to put efforts into our relationship)

I would want to live life like that, score good job, move somewhere more secluded (not too much, enough to not be bothered but also close enough to some town to get supplies, power and water), maybe throw guns into mix (one of my few hobbies, sadly really hard tp have them in Poland) and be happy man. I'm not even that interested in sex, robot would be nice, but I could live without that

All those people who think that their goals and morals are in some way superior to others are just arrogant, ot too insecure to admit that it's subjective

Goyim you took the bait.

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>>135140144
don't delete your posts in my thread

>>135140629
>What you are saying is we can't trust our senses
no I'm not. your senses are part of your perspective. you have no perspective without senses. either way, if you get into "you can't trust your senses", you are effectively nuking the playing field via munchhausen trilemma and defeating your own argument simultaneously. "I know that I cannot know" is self-refuting.

>Define what you mean by religious?
viewing subjective axioms as objective.

>>135134705
You don't pay a whore to get fucked, you pay them to leave after.

>>135134705
24 yr old here. Just started my first job at 58k doing supply chain engineering. Do you think it's possible for me to hit your wage by the time I'm your age? Do you have any advice for someone new to all of this shit?

Don't listen to these guys, just do what makes you happy.

>>135140050
this, if he's responsible and self-sufficient with little to no debts, he is set.

But OP, you have to get out there and travel more. You have to experience things first-hand, see people for what they are etc
You're sacrificing too much.

>>135135058

How can you not save anything from a 120K salary? lmao. Most people can live on 30K, even lower if you're super frugal. I envy salaries like yours but laugh when I find I probably have more saved.

>>135141723
sorry i'm biomed engineering working on bioimaging. completely different field

>>135141069
>Human life is not inherently logical.
how did you arrive at this conclusion without using logic? oxymoronic.

>You are living a handicapped existence but don't even know it.
explain. I'm all ears.

>No normal, healthy person would want to live like you. You are a freak. Something is broken. You are like a person who is born blind and unable to conceive of colors.Untrustworthy and out of touch with humanity.
this is what you tell yourself to feel that the decisions you have made in life are correct, because if you see someone who is making decisions contrary to that and is happy, it is a threat to the foundations of your worldview.

>>135134705

Anon, you can have a nice young, family-loving wife. It's up to you.

>>135141807
How do artifical growth hormones impact subjects and the offspring of subjects?

>>135141755
>But OP, you have to get out there and travel more.
i tried traveling and i honestly get more satisfaction adventuring in video games. there's no travel time, no shitty tourist bullshit, no shitskins, no pushy people trying to sell you shit, no trashy "monuments, world wonders, etc," no hordes of chines/poos shitting the place up, etc etc

>>135141301
ironic that you say I hold a delusion that leads nowhere when you literally hold a delusion that leads to wanting to sacrifice yourself(nowhere).

>>135141303
>I literally cannot comprehend that someone might not want to devote significant amounts of their time and resources towards putting their penis inside of a mucus lathered orifice!!

>>135142018
>i literally cannot read
for someone who lives for internet arguments, you're not very good at it

>>135141390
>Yet you complain about the failures of your previous relationship just like a bitter spinster.
no, I explain why I am aware that women are a waste of time and resources. I couldn't possibly know that without experience. I am citing the source of my knowledge.

>I refuse to believe an engineer is this stupid
I am not an engineer. you are probably confusing me with another poster. also, if you think engineers are incapable of being stupid, you have a lot to learn in life.

>>135141958
I don't know this off the top of my head but it depends on which hormones, the route of administration, how much, drug delivery systems, etc.

I don't know how they would affect offspring unless the mother is exposed to them while the fetus is developing. Just go download some physiology, molecular physiology, developmental bio, pharmacology, etc textbooks and look it up. They're easy to find online

>>135141632

That only holds true for you though, since you believe that you are merely the manifestation of your brains working in a complex machine of a human. A machine purely working through stimulus and chemicals.

Your prespective isn't static, thus you can't trust in what it holds because at the next moment it might not. Based on that you can only trust that you exist, nothing more.

I can cheat in this though, because I'm religious : P

>>135141882
i'll just cap them and post them

>>135141452
>I enjoy arguing against all types of people of all ages, intelligent or not.
That most certainly is a lie. Or maybe I'm just reflecting. I hate arguing. I like telling people what to think, though.
>your mind is your physical reality, through and through
That's doesn't really catch my meaning. Does it make sense to pick someone's brains apart and point at some atoms, and say "this is what gives the hole on the ground purpose. This is what separates a grave from foundations"? Sure, on some level all that information is indeed encoded into those atoms and that precise order, but that information is so much more abstract than that.
>this is what makes your perspective your existence.
Yes, our brains define our reality, but it actually is even deeper than that. Our university is organized in such a way that every single point in space and time has its own perspective about what is going on. The same lighting literally strikes at different times for an observer inside the train and to one standing on a station, i.e., the order of physical events is observer-dependent.

>>135142164
>I don't know how they would affect offspring unless the mother is exposed to them while the fetus is developing. Just go download some physiology, molecular physiology, developmental bio, pharmacology, etc textbooks and look it up. They're easy to find online
i will, i just hoped for a easu answear. I will habe to proof read anything you say anyway.

>>135142143
here, I'll help you. I stated that your views on women and children are religious(based on subjective axioms as though they are objective reality). you said that my assumption is ridiculous. apparently it isn't, because you are so unable to separate your subjective ideals from reality that you think I have misread your post. you are deeply religious.

>>135141073
How many times do I have to tell you Im not religious or care about religion?

>>135142018
>yourself
Your sense of "self" is an illusion created for a specific purpose. To ensure the survival of your real self that's made up of all the information that made you including your cultural influences. If you died every night and a new body would wake up every morning with your memories you wouldn't know the difference. Assume your body actually does die every night and your worldview is closer to objective reality than a worldview obsessed with maintaining the illusion.

>>135142204
>Based on that you can only trust that you exist, nothing more.
this is kant on steroids. I hold phenomenologist views however. I believe the apple is on the table because I can see and feel it, and this underneath the umbrella of my perspective.

>>135141723
Bru, no matter what wage you hit, do the other thing hes saying (investing)
Start with $100 bucks a month into some aggressive mutual funds. Eventually you want to bump that to $300 a month.

If you do, you will be a millionaire when you are in your 50s

>>135142365
>i just hoped for a easu answear
there is no easy answer when it comes to physiology

>>135142385
my guy i am not religious at all. you are deeply mistaken. must be very common for someone that assumes ridiculous things about strangers over the internet.

Not an engineer, but an engineering student here. I too tire of Bio-pussy. I think we should work together to contact sex-robot building companies that already exist, and get them to open-source some engineering problems they face so engineers like you (and me in the future) GAN offer them potential solutions, hopefully speeding up production.

>>135142385
>you are deeply religious.
Would you say that a wolf is deeply religious? They do have some morals: they live in packs, eat in certain ways, try not to kill each other etc. I wouldn't quite call them religious, though, so is a human, who doesn't know where his morals originate from, religious?

>>135136284
>Abnormal people on /pol/

>>135142314
>That most certainly is a lie.
arguing with people helps organize your thoughts and gives you practice on expressing them to others. it also helps you learn, I have learned much about people and various subjects through arguing. many people feel the point is to win. though I do get plenty of satisfaction from dragging someone's face across the floor with words.

>but that information is so much more abstract than that.
the reality is that abstract information is not separate from reality. you view the world via abstractions, your perceive almost entirely via abstract symbolatry. you think in the language you speak, and language is a series of abstract concepts. abstraction does not contradict your perspective and existence in any way.

>Our university is organized in such a way that every single point in space and time has its own perspective about what is going on.
this would be impossible to determine without or outside of your first-person perspective. determining this is part of your existence, which is housed entirely within your perspective.

>>135142697
>opensourcing
The future of sex robots:
>apt-get -i orgasm
>pacman -S sex-noises

>>135139597
You could always hire a financial adviser to take care of that kind of stuff while you handle the business.

serious question, have you had your testosterone level measured ? most males have a general desire to procreate regardless of your social conditioning, maybe it's something you should look at.

>>135142392
you are not aware you are religious. you have beliefs that continuing your bloodline and that having a wife and children is an inherently superior way to live life than say an ascetic hermit. there is no evidence of this, it's purely religion.

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>>135134705
usually I don't post here.
but I had to, as I saw your thread.

I'm incredibly sorry for you that you haven't found purpose in your life, since the only women you meet were whores and cheap girls.

I will pray for you and I hope you will understand one day, what true love is.
Married people will probably understand this.

Just one thing:
don't post here anymore.
your opinion is quite dangerous for the population of /pol/.
Most of our anons are intelligent AND white.
Don't infect this people with your hazardous ideology of genetic suicide!

Kek

>>135137668
If an AI can pass the Turing Test, what reason would there be to be think it would be anymore loyal then a typical human?

>>135142674
well, you are suffering literally the same problem as the other guy so I'll link you to my response to him. >>135143011

>>135142435
so you recognize cognitive relativism yet hold axiomatic views onto others that their purposes are the same as your own(i.e. wanting to sacrifice yourself and provide for women)?

obviously you are mistaken, because I am disgusted by the thought of doing either.

>>135142981
>serious question, have you had your testosterone level measured ?
no. i've been lifting for years though and have gotten semi-respectable weights though--above 1/2/3/4

>>135134705
1. Bullshit
2. You're overpaid
3. Get some friends, idiot.
4. Workout
5. Single nonmoms are out there, they won't want to be with a recluse.

>>135142720
reasoning via philosophical concept is something only humans do that I'm aware of on earth, so no, in this context I wouldn't consider a wolf religious nor moral. I would say that arguing that wolves have morality is an analogy to morality and not observation.

humans who use abstraction to reason their subjective axioms as objective are definitely religious by the definition of the word.

>>135143358
you should bother to read the thread, reddit-flag man

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>>135141967
>there's no travel time
that's up to you
>no shitty tourist bullshit
ignore them, don't travel with groups then
>no shitskins
easy to avoid areas like this
>no pushy people trying to sell you shit
don't be a pushover, learn to say no

Sounds like something's bothering you. You could talk to a therapist, no offense.
Maybe you're let down and bitter about something that happened in past interactions with people? Do you talk with your parents?

>>135135983
As an anon in the same professional and financial situation as OP but on the complete opposite side of the social spectrum I know his type.

They get more and more bitter especially when they hit the professional wall bc no one wants to work with them

Video games stop providing entertainment, internet arguments become repetitive and he'll blow his brains out at 45

>>135142927
>this would be impossible to determine without or outside of your first-person perspective. determining this is part of your existence, which is housed entirely within your perspective.
It doesn't make sense to reduce all reality into just what we can objectively say is true. Sure, it's all our observations, so we can't be certain about anything, but that's hardly a productive way of thinking. According to our current knowledge of physics and relativity, what I said holds true.
>the reality is that abstract information is not separate from reality.
It kind of is. A hole is just a hole if you don't think about it. And even if you manage to isolate the atoms thinking that it's something else, you don't really capture the significance or meaning of that hole. Furthermore, a random observer who just happens to see a hole in the ground, may deduce its purpose and meaning from its surroundings. However, there's nothing concrete information in the surroundings, really. The surroundings just are, and the hole just is. You require a mind to be able to comprehend the distinction, and the distinction arises from being able to comprehend it.

>>135143011
You are confusing religion and biology, retard. Just because you use more descriptive words to sound """enlightened""", doesn't make your psuedo theories true.

>>135143542
>Sounds like something's bothering you
stop projecting

>>135143395
>humans who use abstraction to reason their subjective axioms as objective are definitely religious by the definition of the word.
What if the human is too stupid to realize that his values are rooted in the education he has received and the culture he has grown in? Is he still religious? What's the distinction between him and a wolf here?

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>>135141560
It's not really 'goals'. There are certain shared emotions and empathetic instincts that are conducive to group survival. If the person retains these traits, it does not matter strongly what they do. People that do not have those traits are by nature untrustworthy because they do not 'get' others and will not sacrifice for them if the times comes. Worse, they could betray them or do something considered widely immoral just to survive. No conception of love, heroism, or honor. A very likely traitor.

>>135141876
>how did you arrive at this conclusion without using logic? oxymoronic.

That's a philosophical sidepoint. Forget it. The point is we are not strictly rational and pragmatic creatures.

>explain. I'm all ears.

The worse part is i can't. How would you explain to someone why music is beautiful? You either intuitively get it or you don't.

> if you see someone who is making decisions contrary to that and is happy, it is a threat to the foundations of your worldview.

No. Some people enjoy eating dirt. It's just that people like you, who have no conception or understanding of love, friendship, other common experiences shared by most of humanity are untrustworthy and unreliable, especially if SHTF. I explained it to the pollock. Also you seem narcissistic, arrogant, and cold. You are probably not a criminal or outwardly malicious, but i can't understand you, and you can't understand normal people. It's an evolutionary instinct i'm sure, and one that makes quite a bit of sense.

Have you ever had a real friend or felt true love for someone?

>>135142720
Acting morally like anything is an act of faith unless you logically justify it but even then those justifications must be based on axioms that you have faith in, even your faith in the reliability of logic. The animals like wolves are still in the garden without self consciousness or sin, they don't need to worry about this stuff.

>>135143210
You are denying one of the few known objective truths to justify a degenerate lifestyle. You are a machine that evolved to survive, that's reality not an opinion.

>>135135673
Can relate.

>>135143584
>It doesn't make sense to reduce all reality into just what we can objectively say is true.
no, but it doesn't make sense to pretend anything beyond what you can claim with objectivity is objective.
>According to our current knowledge of physics and relativity, what I said holds true.
how could you determine this outside of your first-person perspective?

>You require a mind to be able to comprehend the distinction, and the distinction arises from being able to comprehend it.
this abstract distinction is not separate from your existence. it is a part of your perspective. not sure what's confusing about that.

>>135143586
not at all. you are arguing subjective concepts as objective. that is religious behavior. your subjective concepts align with your instincts, correct, but that does not make them inherently superior to another subjective concept. and I use descriptive language in an attempt to be understood, apparently wasted on some.

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you ever notice how everyone on /pol/ is a programmer who makes exactly 120k a year

rlly make u think

>>135143844
>Acting morally like anything is an act of faith unless you logically justify it but even then those justifications must be based on axioms that you have faith in, even your faith in the reliability of logic.
You don't really need any well defined axioms to give rise to morality. Evolution has forced some behavioral patterns upon us, and the prototypes of those patterns are already visible in wolves. We are simply able to put them into words far better, and we can rationalize them.
>The animals like wolves are still in the garden without self consciousness or sin, they don't need to worry about this stuff.
What about apes or chimpanzees? Blacks? Stupid whites? At what point do you reach the level of abstract thought that makes you a sinner?

>>135138860
I dont think you loved them, and they certainly didnt love you. It needs to actually be there and be reciprocated.

You all sound like such bitter assholes that denounce love because youve never personally felt it or had it felt for you

>>135144118
>programmer
gj reading the thread. you come into a 250+ reply thread to drop your stupid bomb and peace out "1 post by this is" faggot

>>135143011
Now you sound insane and like a cultist.
Tell me more about my internalised religiousity.

>>135143953
>your subjective concepts align with your instincts, correct, but that does not make them inherently superior

I would say they are probably good for group survival and thus long term happiness on a social, communal level. There is often truth in instinct.

>>135138993
Closer to 16 for women, and men dont really have a peak so much as a flat top that then declines, their are in their peak for a range of years

>>135143723
a wolf doesn't try to reason to another wolf his worldview using abstraction.

>>135143789
>The point is we are not strictly rational and pragmatic creatures.
I don't see the relevance.

>The worse part is i can't. How would you explain to someone why music is beautiful? You either intuitively get it or you don't.
through subjective reasoning. that is my point, you, like many in this thread are attempting to argue opinions as inherent to human existence, when this contradicts reality.

>It's just that people like you, who have no conception or understanding of love, friendship, other common experiences shared by most of humanity are untrustworthy and unreliable, especially if SHTF.
this is relative to you, in which case you are correct. I would kill and eat you if it was my only way to survive.

>but i can't understand you, and you can't understand normal people
how did you arrive at the conclusion that I can't understand normal people if you don't understand me? oxymoronic.

>Have you ever had a real friend or felt true love for someone?
I have a couple of close friends and have been in long term relationships before. that's why I am aware that women are a waste of time and resources, first-hand experience.

>>135143844
>You are a machine that evolved to survive, that's reality not an opinion.
I never argued against that. I argued against the idea that I inherently want to sacrifice myself and protect women. this is an instinct, and like many others it can be easily overcome through experience and thought.

>>135134705
If you are not interested in having babies, raise them properly,leave them in a better world and stuff like that, I WILL DEVELOP THE PROTOTYPE FOR YOU!

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>>135144345
men dont get better as they age or get worse because im not a filthy sex tourist concupiscient goy competing for women enemy of god lover of this world

>>135140050
By not having kids he is causing harm
The future will be filled with more niggers and spics and less successful whites.

He is part of the end of civilization.

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>>135143141

>Most of our anons are intelligent AND white.

>and white

>>135143953
>how could you determine this outside of your first-person perspective?
This whole conversation is meaningless if you can't let go of the notion that nothing is objectively true. In fact, absolutely everything loses its meaning and there's nothing to be talked about if that's the case.
>not sure what's confusing about that.
It's mostly you who is confused. I've studied physical reality well enough to know what it is and what it isn't. If you can't separate mind from physics, you lose free will and become just an intricate automaton. That could be the case of course, but even then there would be the abstractions that we think we've thought. Our physical reality simply gives rise to them, but that doesn't diminish their reality.

>>135137412
>computer engineers are paid around 60k
You're thinking of computer science/IT
https://www.sokanu.com/careers/computer-hardware-engineer/salary/

Internships in my field pay 60k a year nigger

>>135134705
I didnt have a job or car last year and had chicks pay for all my shit. Lol stay salty OP

>>135135238
you and i could be friends.

>>135135526
YA THINK YA HAWT SHIT DONTCHA?!

>>135144142
The actual evolved behavior patterns are a separate thing from the abstractions we create to represent the forces that they emerged from.
>You don't really need any well defined axioms to give rise to morality
Why is it morally correct to want humans to survive? It's just a subjective opinion unless you invoke the concept of God whatever name you have for it. The underlying nature of reality demands of us that humans survive. It's God's will.

>At what point do you reach the level of abstract thought that makes you a sinner?
Being capable of questioning God's will is pretty advanced, only humans were cast out.

>>135143152
>beingdisloyaltome willcauseyougreatpain.exe

>>135135238
>when my coworkers manage to drag me to a bar after work i just wish i was at home shitposting or playing vidya
Sad and pathetic existence confirmed

>>135144205
>I dont think you loved them, and they certainly didnt love you.
you believe this because what I am saying contradicts your worldview. cognitive dissonance in action, this is what I mean by religious. I have had deeply personal relationships with the opposite sex, to the point where we are more like a single entity housed within two people. unfortunately, and I have learned this through many years of experience and spending time with many people and hearing many stories, I have learned that women are more trouble than they are worth. they are negative happiness value by their inherent nature. no point to interacting with them other than to learn this the hard way.

>>135144274
there is nothing of substance to respond to in this post, pure insults.

>>135144290
>I would say they are probably good for group survival and thus long term happiness on a social, communal level.
of course, that's why people feel the urge to fuck and socialize in the first place. I'm no martyr though, I won't sacrifice my happiness for the sake of a community unless that community returns my happiness in greater form.

>>135137596
This

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>>135144679
no he was talking about all the engineers on /pol/ make 120k

just on /pol/ every single one of them

>>135144450
>a wolf doesn't try to reason to another wolf his worldview using abstraction.
So the distinction between a religious person and a non-religious is that one of them can reason and argue, whereas the other one cannot. That's retarded.

>>135144880
>So the distinction between a religious person and a non-religious is that one of them can reason and argue, whereas the other one cannot
i have not been following you guys' conversation at all but i would agree with this. if a religious person could apply reason to their religion then they would not be religious

>>135144657
>This whole conversation is meaningless if you can't let go of the notion that nothing is objectively true.
not at all. in your appeal to "nothing is objective" you are essentially nuking the playing field and simultaneously destroying your own claims in the process. it is a stillborn argument.

>If you can't separate mind from physics
you are dualist, this is a religious standpoint. there is no evidence that your mind exists outside of your physical body. and past that, your mind is not separate from your perspective, but a part of it, regardless of whether or not it is separate from physical reality. your argument is senseless.
>you lose free will and become just an intricate automaton.
there is no evidence supporting free will either, nor is there evidence supporting determinism. claiming either exists is unfalsifiable. either way, it is irrelevant, because regardless of freewill or determinism, your existence is still 100% housed within your perspective. you cannot perceive anything beyond it, it is not a part of your existence.

>>135144812
I asked u to tell me about my internal religiousness smartass

>>135144450
>this is an instinct, and like many others it can be easily overcome
Your instincts are there for a reason, acting out what you know is morally right and accepting your responsibilities is deeply rewarding because your biology is built for it. In theory Doritos may sound better because of how our culture has framed things but that's not reality.

>>135144880
>>135145029
being able to reason and argue doesn't mean that one can reason and argue "well", or "correctly".
>So the distinction between a religious person and a non-religious is that one of them can reason and argue, whereas the other one cannot.
no, you have not maintained a context of the discussion. as I have already defined multiple times, a religious person is one who argues subjective axioms as though they are objective. a non-religious person is someone who does not. a wolf is underneath the umbrella of "non-religious", because they do not argue subjective axioms as though they are objective, because they do not argue.

>>135144771
>Why is it morally correct to want humans to survive?
I don't know. It's something I've often wondered myself. I want my genes to survive and propagate. Why is that? Evolution created this instinct in me, of course, but does that make it right? I think it does. But then there are other things that are almost impossible to answer. Like, is it okay to torture a member of another species? For my survival and the survival of my genes, it is utterly irrelevant. It's just my altruism towards my own species that I'm reflecting onto that poor creature. So, which one should I believe? That it's irrelevant, or that it's not ok. Religion is a good framework to use on moral questions, since it has evolved too, but then there's the problem of choosing the correct religion. And occasionally that religion needs to be reformed to keep up the evolution.

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>>135144645
>flag
>thinks "white" is just a skin colour
>isn't "white" by his/her definition
>posts on /pol/

I thought, we're all mental bros here.
damn racist

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>>135139954
2k, 1.7k group

>>135139000
Nigga I'm an atheist and this guy is a nihilistic retard. All people, especially whites, should reproduce if possible.

>>135145230
acting out the demands of your biology does not always produce more happiness than pain. for example, it is instinctual to want to consume fatty and sugary foods because they are high in caloric value and contribute to survival in most of our evolutionary history. however, submitting to these instincts, though temporarily rewarding can lead to a larger amount of unhappiness later with health issues and discomfort.

the same goes for women. it feels nice to blow a load inside of an orifice. the problems associated with women outweigh this nice feeling, and there are other forms of companionship to replace any other benefits that women may have. women are like junkfood, instinctually reinforced but unhealthy.

>>135145705
>deriving an ought from an is
and you call yourself an atheist.

>>135134705
>paying for whores
>redpilled
Idiot.

>>135145517

most pol users are burgers, look at the meet up in nyc - only few whites

whats your definition of white?

Keep on doing like this until you are 50. By that time you'll have money enough for your comfy life and for babies as well. Then you find some girl who is in her early 30s or late 20s, who was a 9 or a 10 when she was 19, and fill her up with babies...

>>135144450
Shit i thought you were faggot OP. My bad.

>I don't see the relevance.
Why not?

>are attempting to argue opinions as inherent to human existence

I never did that myself. I said certain traits are conducive to group happiness and survival. People who don't 'get' this feeling or impulse are not trustworthy or reliable in a tough situation.

>when this contradicts reality.

What is reality? ohhhhhhhhhh. Lets skip this.

> I would kill and eat you if it was my only way to survive.

Understandable, but would you kill me unnecessarily to say, possess some of my land that you envied? Empathy and shared experience are the heart of a group and vital to it's survival.

>how did you arrive at the conclusion that I can't understand normal people if you don't understand me?

I thought you were OP. Not too sure about you, as i haven't been reading *all* your posts. Definitely are a bit strange, no shame in it.

> that's why I am aware that women are a waste of time and resources, first-hand experience.

*Your* women are a waste of time and resources. My belief is, mostly: better to have loved and lost. Then again, i am surrounded by people in stable, happy relationships. Seems like you got burned and have become objectively enlightened to the whole scam. Congrats! But we can agree that life with a loving partner is better than life alone, if you can manage?

Anyway, i get the feeling that you don't place any value on human life.

>>135135673
And youbare 100% right.
Most plebs around here are so fkn pathetic they can't live without the validation of their shallow relationships.

The most important thing is that you do what you want and what you enjoy. Dont let then shame you into doing things that not even they truly enjoy.

>>135145908
see:
>>135141719
>>135134862

>>135145910
Only shitskins and faggots would be stupid enough to show up irl. If you're actually right-wing, and not just here to shitpost, you'll be more careful.
Not to mention that there are almost no whites left in NYC.

>>135146051
>Most plebs around here are so fkn pathetic they can't live without the validation of their shallow relationships.
We're a social species. It's not at all shallow to require affirmation and support from others. It'd be sociopathic not to.

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Build a fucking castle, nigger.

>>135135673
Sounds pretty comfy to be honest

>>135146078
>extramarital sex
My point still stands. All the women in my area are shit, and I wouldn't marry any of them, but I won't fuck them either. Just jerk it if you're really horny--don't encourage/help whores.

>>135146051
>Dont let then shame you into doing things that not even they truly enjoy.
i don't. they really are bucket crabs. I hear them talk about family issues, not wanting to go where their wife wants to go on vacation (thus wasting 1-2 weeks of their lives and thousands of their dollars on shit they did not want to do), they talk about stupid shit all the time. Then they turn around and say "you should get married" and shit like that fuck no nigga i see your problems

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>>135145910
if you know the difference between nigger and black people, then you know, what I mean.

This is "POLITICALLY incorrect".
We discuss politics and ideologies.
Only newfags and normies fix on visual differences.

>>135145230
How acting upon your instincts is rewarding? It isn't unless you make it so

>>135146340
>if you know the difference between nigger and black people, then you know, what I mean.
This is context-dependent. In everyday interactions, it makes sense to divide blacks into blacks and niggers. In a right wing death squad it would be infeasible to make the distinction, so you treat them all the same.