/nsg/ 卐 - National Socialism General ϟϟ BLOOD, FATHERL

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卐 - EXPOSING THE CULTURAL MARXIST AGENDA
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>The Frankfurt School of Social Research and the Pathologization of Gentile Group Allegiances
http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/chap5.pdf
>Cultural Marxism
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism
>Cultural Marxism: The Corruption of America
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIdBuK7_g3M
>Erich Fromm, Judaism and the Frankfurt School
http://pages.gseis.ucla.edu/faculty/kellner/Illumina%20Folder/kell24.htm
>Frankfurt School
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School
>Frankfurt School of Social Research
http://jettandjahn.com/2010/10/frankfurt-school-of-social-research/
>The Frankfurt School & Cultural Marxism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghx3d1GiAc0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkcy7256tBM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fG6TcYfpQOg
>The History of Political Correctness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acjIw7cVc2k
>How a Handfull of Marxist Jews Turned Western and U.S. Culture Upside Down
http://davidduke.com/how-a-handfull-of-marxist-jews-turned-western-and-us-culture-upside-down/
>The Jewish Frankfurt School and the End of Western Civilization
http://www.dailystormer.com/the-jewish-frankfurt-school-and-the-end-of-western-civilization/
>The New Dark Age: The Frankfurt School and "Political Correctness"
http://www.schillerinstitute.org/fid_91-96/921_frankfurt.html
>Who Stole Our Culture?
http://www.wnd.com/2007/05/41737/
>The Frankfurt School and Its Legacy
http://www.morveninstituteoffreedom.com/FrankfurtSchool.pdf
>Critical Theory (Cultural Marxism) and Jewish Thought
http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/theology/events/2013/critical-theory-and-jewish-thought.aspx
>Fallen Jews, Critical Theory, and Cultural Marxism
https://originsofleftism.wordpress.com/2015/01/16/notes-fallen-jews-critical-theory-and-cultural-marxism/
>Bill Whittle on the Narrative: Political Correctness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrt6msZmU7Y

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Bump
How're you doing today, lad?

>>135123181
Pretty good m8 thanks. Just working, stopping to check the board between orders. How are you?

we already have a thread faggot
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>>135123350
I'm doing pretty well, thanks. Done all I need to do for the day, which is nice.
It's a shame these threads don't garner as much attention as they used to.

Can anyone give me a quick rundown or a link to how National Socialist economics actually worked in Nazi Germany?

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>>135123332
>when you build yur country around a military industrial complex causing you to go to war
Nice leftist meme, who said that -- Chomsky?
These are hilarious.

>>135123510
>already have a thread
This is the new bread.

>>135123537
It goes in waves. Like /sg/ will run strong for a few weeks, then falls off. /nsg/ will kind of fall off for a bit, then it comes back for a few weeks.

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>>135123687
See
>>135123147
>>135123332
Also
>National Socialist Economics
>Work
Choose one.

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>>135123787
Not a meme, also I'm pretty sure Chomsky is mildly retarded.

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>>135123687
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-economic-history/article/div-classtitlethe-role-of-private-property-in-the-nazi-economy-the-case-of-industrydiv/5853885D956348A13B5CEFDC42313E2B
>Against the Mainstream: Nazi privatization in 1930's Germany (Germa Bel)
http://www.ub.edu/graap/EHR.pdf
http://voxeu.org/article/macroeconomics-germany-forgotten-lesson-hjalmar-schacht
https://pridecomethbeforeafall.wordpress.com/2014/02/10/hitlers-economic-miracle/
https://youtu.be/pKnFN8P21-0
>Social Welfare in Germany:
https://archive.org/details/SocialWelfareInGermany
>German Youth in a Changing World:
https://archive.org/details/GermanYouthInAChangingWorld
>German Economic Policy:
https://archive.org/details/GermanEconomicPolcy
>German Law and Legislation:
https://archive.org/details/GermanLawAndLegislation
>German Education Today:
https://archive.org/details/GermanEducationToday
>German Labour Service:
https://archive.org/details/FermanLabourServise


>>135123816
Go away brainlet, you're boring.

>>135123687
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3h6PQ8qvSCk

TLDW: Not great. Try to filter out the rhetoric you get from the Nazis themselves. There is a way they thought it would work and then there's what actually happened

>>135123908
>I'm pretty sure Chomsky is mildly retarded.
All these memes you post sound like shit Chomsky would say.

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>>135122980
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>>135123979
>All these memes you post sound like shit Chomsky would say.
>InB4 Not real socialism.
You NatCucks are practically commies.

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>>135123937
>Ludwig von Mises institute
lol, let's learn about fascism from Austrian ancaps

>>135124079
Its hard to understand why you're so angry. Most people just come in and seem curious, but you sound ready to go to war to keep people away from this thread. Seems strange.
>you're practically commies
Libertarians are closer to being commies than we are.

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>>135124214
>Libertarians are closer to being commies than we are.
Explain.

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Hi.

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Nice
Heil Allah

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>>135124401
You promise utopia and the perfection of humanity, if humanity will simply apply counter-factuals to human nature, like abandoning all hierarchy and authority structures and being governed by abstractions like "the NAP", which is just a capitalist approximation of the Golden Rule. Similarly, communists propose the reordering of society as a utopia through the adoption of counterfactuals to human nature. Other than Jews being prominent in both movements, both movements seem designed to destroy the West -- both from within and without. Both movements sell a kind of novelty of ideology, appealing to the intellectual arrogance of gullible followers, who never question why such simple ideas were never thought of or tried before (pro tip: they were) in all of human history. You think you're some kind of rare genius in the 20,000 years of human civilization, that had the idea "hey, if we just ask everyone to follow some magic rules, then we won't need any government, and we'll benefit from magic eugenics and the people who deserve things will magically get them".

https://youtu.be/e-BZylziBKI
https://youtu.be/lvUDVyySzQo

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There's a lot more truth in this meme.

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>>135124838
>You promise utopia and the perfection of humanity, if humanity will simply apply counter-factuals to human nature,
Nope, no such promises. The only promise is that you will have the oppurtunity to pursue your own utopia.

>like abandoning all hierarchy and authority structures and being governed by abstractions like "the NAP", which is just a capitalist approximation of the Golden Rule.
This is incorrect. Libertarians believe in a strong state, just not one that is so strong that it can become oppressive. We limit power through democracy and secularism. Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.

>Other than Jews being prominent in both movements,
Not a problem.

>both movements seem designed to destroy the West
You mean build the west.

>Both movements sell a kind of novelty of ideology, appealing to the intellectual arrogance of gullible followers, who never question why such simple ideas were never thought of or tried before (pro tip: they were) in all of human history.
They have and our current system works the best. Why chose an ideology with opening glaring weakness that couldn't make it past 12 years without falling apart.

>You think you're some kind of rare genius in the 20,000 years of human civilization, that had the idea "hey, if we just ask everyone to follow some magic rules, then we won't need any government, and we'll benefit from magic eugenics and the people who deserve things will magically get them".

>Being anti-Socialist means your an Anarcho-Capitalist.
>Being this fucking stupid.

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>>135125974
>We don't promise utopia, the only promise is you'll be able to pursue utopia
Stopped reading right there.

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>>135125580
>I was 14 once also.
Sooner or later you'll realize that national socialism suffers the same major issues that all forms of socialism have.

>>135126147
Which is part of your problem. Instead of getting off your ass and creating wealth you think it should be just handed to you because of the color of your skin. Also have fun enjoying all the freedoms and luxuries that capitalism has given you while actively trying destroy the easy life you have and implement a system doesn't work and has never made it past 12 years.

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>>135126667
(woops, accidentally cut half of reply, ignore previous one)

>>135126667
>national socialism suffers the same major issues that all forms of socialism have
Like what?
>Instead of getting off your ass and creating wealth you think it should be just handed to you
So I shouldn't work? Then why did Natsoc make it illegal to be unemployed by choice?
>you think it should be just handed to you because of the color of your skin
No, "skin color" racialism is a hollywood myth. You believed bullshit propaganda if you think "skin color" is relevant to race in a cause and effect way.
>Also have fun enjoying all the freedoms and luxuries that capitalism has given you
Natsoc is "producer-centered capitalism".
>while actively trying destroy the easy life you have and implement a system doesn't work
It worked better than anything in history.
>and has never made it past 12 years.
Systems tend to "break down" when the entire world declares "total war" and invades them. Not really an accurate assessment, since it was soaring until it was bombed to death.

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>>135126776
>Like what?
The United States proved that a free market is much more effective than a controlled one. Nazi Germany fell because they couldn't out produce the United States. Communist Russia fell because they couldn't either. Democracy and Capitalism deal with outside threats way better. Also Capitalism creates, Socialism doesn't. Go look at Germany's economic crash 1939 - 1944 and you'll see for yourself.


>So I shouldn't work? Then why did Natsoc make it illegal to be unemployed by choice?
They also stripped their workers of any profit motive. Literally forced labor.

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lol the national socialists are on here there the biggest Faggits lol there just right wing SJWs.

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>>135123134
>welfare state
>Natsoc welfare meant "here we got you a job, if you refuse you go to labor camp"
>muh identity politics
Is this where all these dumb ass myths you morons spout comes from, a bunch of smiley memes? You literally learned what you believe from fucking smiley memes?

>>135127286
lol you just roasted OP we need more people like you and a lot less national socialist retards.

>>135122980
Our brothers will defeat you. We own the banks!

We print your money!

You invest in us!

You watch our movies!

We own you America.

>>135127574
oops it looks like we triggered a nazi

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>>135127108
>No, "skin color" racialism is a hollywood myth. You believed bullshit propaganda if you think "skin color" is relevant to race in a cause and effect way.
Doesn't matter what you consider relevant (IQ, Birthrates,etc) everything has a role in society. Capitalism also brings out the best in everyone. Even if the average nigger isn't as smart as the average white man, I want that nigger to be operating at his full potential and being as efficient as he can be.

>Natsoc is "producer-centered capitalism".
Command-Capitalism, nice propaganda twist you through on there. Make what the state wants or don't get capital, sell for how much the state wants or you don't get capitals, sell to who the state wants or you don't get capital.

>It worked better than anything in history.
You mean crashed and burned and took a bunch of people down with it.

>Systems tend to "break down" when the entire world declares "total war" and invades them. Not really an accurate assessment, since it was soaring until it was bombed to death.
That's what happens when you base your economy on an industrial military complex that impedes on other peoples private interests. If you were to do it again you will get the same outcome.

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>>135127768
we are owned by noone lol you listening to nazi and neocons bullshit website lol your retarded if you actually think that

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>>135128037
yeah that's OP in a nutshell

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KEKS INVADE THIS THREAD AND RED PILL IT ON INDIVIDUALISM AND FREEDOM

the can is for OP lol

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YEAH GUYS I FOUND A PICTURE OF OP

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>>135127286
>The United States proved that a free market is much more effective than a controlled one.
The US implemented a much less effective version of Keynsean policies at the same the Natsocs did; the US system was essentially the same as the Natsoc one until the 1970s.
>Nazi Germany fell because they couldn't out produce the United States.
3rd Reich GDP was greater than all the allies for the majority of the years 1933 to 1945.
>Communist Russia fell because they couldn't either.
I think their collapse was a bit more complex than "lel dey cunt outproduce democratic capitalism"
>Democracy and Capitalism deal with outside threats way better.
Not sure how that applies, since the Natsoc were capitalist, and all the nations party to WWI were "democratic and capitalistic", regardless of who won, and all the capitalist democracies nearly collapsed, or had to team up to take out the authoritarian states. I mean, the US hasn't exactly won most wars its fought in. I just don't see the realtionship between democracy and "dealing with external threats", seems like a just-so assertion. Wheres the evidence?
>Go look at Germany's economic crash 1939 - 1944 and you'll see for yourself.
I see the opposite, pic related.

>>135127798
>Capitalism also brings out the best in everyone
Detroit ghettos just need to read more Mises
>Command-Capitalism, nice propaganda twist you through on there
lol its producer centered rather than investor centered, what's the "propaganda", that's literally what it is
>You mean crashed and burned
lol read books not memes to learn about economic history, google "german miracle hjalmar schact"
>That's what happens when you base your economy on an industrial military complex
That Chomsky meme again. The US did the same thing. Having a MIC doesn't drive a nation to war, just it didn't drive us to war though we've had one since WWII -- unless you want to argue like Chomsky that we were forced into Vietnam by the military industrial complex.

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did this thread just get posted in a the_donald discord filled with tweens?

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>>135128675
sure bud sure... is that why we kicked your sorry ass. lol FOLLOW your leader

>>135128796
no were not tweens were just anti-bullshit

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>>135128675
oh shit, OP just dropped a MOAB on these ancap brainlets kek

>>135129130
no you're obviously all /ptg/ tier teenagers

>>135122980
14/88

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>>135129030
>we kicked your sorry ass
burger education lol

>>135129576
pure retardation. at it's finest. thanks for proving my point.

>>135129258
not really lol. it's just op floundering lol. later retard unlike you i got a job to go to and not leech off the state.

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>>135129030
>FOLLOW your leader
Follow him where?

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>>135130157
No argument, no rebuttal, just damage control.

>>135128675
>3rd Reich GDP was greater than all the allies for the majority of the years 1933 to 1945.
>Chart stops at 1939.
See
>>135127286

>3rd Reich GDP was greater than all the allies for the majority of the years 1933 to 1945.
By investing all of it's state capital into an industrial military complex. If the United States right now invested a shit ton of money into Walmart we would have a huge economic bomb. We don't do that because it's fucking retarded and doesn't last when demand depletes which is what happened to Germany.

>I see the opposite, pic related.
>Chart stops at 1939.
Every fucking time.

>Not sure how that applies, since the Natsoc were capitalist, and all the nations party to WWI were "democratic and capitalistic", regardless of who won, and all the capitalist democracies nearly collapsed, or had to team up to take out the authoritarian states. I mean, the US hasn't exactly won most wars its fought in. I just don't see the realtionship between democracy and "dealing with external threats", seems like a just-so assertion. Wheres the evidence?
And their switch to totalitarianism is why they crashed and burned. Having a strong central power gives you strength but also makes your weaknesses stronger. It's better to split the power and have multiple people working in their own self interest because they cover each others weaknesses.

>lol its producer centered rather than investor centered, what's the "propaganda", that's literally what it is
It's state controlled meaning the producers don't profit, that's why several germans (my great grand parents) fled Germany to the states.

>lol read books not memes to learn about economic history, google "german miracle hjalmar schact"
I have, which I why I support a free market and not command capitalism.

>The US did the same thing.
Except we have a global economy backing it.

>"HEIL HITLER 14/88 GAS THE KIKES WHITE RACE BEST RACE"
>*kills millions of white people, allies with mudslimes, creates big welfare gibsmedats state*

>>135129576
>this pic coupled with this comment
Olgino 15-rouble Ivans at their finest. #Volodin #Gay

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>>135130157
>leech off the state
There was no "leeching off the state" under natsoc, brainlet. Work was mandatory. Read some books, IQ-let:

>Social Welfare in Germany:
https://archive.org/details/SocialWelfareInGermany

>>135130304
>Chart stops at 1939
Well then that's 6 years you were wrong about. All the "driving them to war" memes are the same nonsense.
>debt was driving them to war
>growth was driving them to war
>full employment was driving them to war
>not letting women/jews work was driving them to war
>fascism had a conquest mentality driving them to war
>everyone was insane thus driving them to war
Here's the rest of the data, Google is your friend brainlet:
>German GDP in Billions of Dollars:

>1938 - 351
>1939 - 384
>1940 - 387
>1941 - 412
>1942 - 417
>1943 - 426
>1944 - 437
>1945 - 310

As far as "military spending driving them to war", Germany barely broke the US threshold of 40% of GDP, the entire duration of the war, and spent LESS THAN THEIR RIVALS in preparation building up to war:

>CHART 9 - spending as percent of Germany GDP:

>1935: 8%
>1936: 13%
>1937: 13%
>1938: 17%
>1939: 23%

http://voxeu.org/article/macroeconomics-germany-forgotten-lesson-hjalmar-schacht
http://www.nber.org/chapters/c9480.pdf
http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/nazi-germany/nazi-germany-military-expenditure/

>>135130647
>Well then that's 6 years you were wrong about. All the "driving them to war" memes are the same nonsense.
>As far as "military spending driving them to war", Germany barely broke the US threshold of 40% of GDP, the entire duration of the war, and spent LESS THAN THEIR RIVALS in preparation building up to war:

>Ignores Mefo Bills.
Check and mate.

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>>135130647
holy fuck nice lol

>>135130304
dude.... your anus just got pulled out and handed to you kek

natsoc germany wasnt capital...

, were work programs and re-armament. The Nazis initiated massive spending programs to stimulate the economy, generate jobs and encourage economic growth. In July 1934 the government formed the Reichsarbeitsdienst (the RAD, or ‘National Labour Service’). The RAD attacked unemployment by conscripting out-of-work Germans into vast work teams. RAD workers were given an armband, a shovel and a bicycle, then sent to wherever public works, construction, clearance or agricultural labour were needed. One of the earliest RAD programs was the construction of massive autobahns: hundreds of miles of freeway connecting Germany’s major cities. These autobahns had a positive effect on the German car industry, which also flourished from the mid-1930s. In 1937 Hitler established Volkswagen, a state-sponsored company to produce cheap cars for German families.

“Ideology played a secondary role in Hitler’s economic policies. For reasons of expediency, Hitler did not attempt to nazify the economy. Instead, he left the actual running of the economy to experts in business and industry, while instituting a large amount of control from above to force cooperation and compliance with his economic objectives. So long as they cooperated, big business and industry profited by this relationship. In essence, the German economy under Hitler was neither totally free nor totally controlled.”

fucking stupid ass ancap niggers.

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>>135130814
>Ignores Mefo Bills.
Didn't you see this link:
http://voxeu.org/article/macroeconomics-germany-forgotten-lesson-hjalmar-schacht
>Check and mate.
Mefo bills are irrelevant to either of your previous points, and further support arguments I've made -- that's why I included the link. Look at Germany's economy compared to a neighbor that didn't use similar policies: (pic related)

>>135130814
Adolf Hitler himself was not particularly interested in economic theory. His speeches of the 1920s contained almost no reference to economic policy, other than vague statements about ceasing reparations payments and restoring German industry. Once in power, Hitler played little part in formulating policy or contributing to German economic recovery. He instead relied on a group of advisors, some of whom were non-Nazis, to form policy in line with his broad goals. One of these advisors was Hjalmar Schacht, a former member of the German Democratic Party (DDP)

https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hjalmar_Schacht

>>135131130
>Mefo bills are irrelevant to either of your previous points, and further support arguments I've made -- that's why I included the link. Look at Germany's economy compared to a neighbor that didn't use similar policies: (pic related)
Mefo Bills whole purpose were to not cause inflation. The debt was still there just under a different currency. Mefo bills won't show in the GDP. The United States did the same shit with there War Bonds except they were debted to private banks and not the state. If the United States couldn't pay of the bond it hurt the company. Since Mefo Bills came from Germany's state it feel completely on the country.

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Suddenly all those cocky ancaps are gone...

>>135131471
Still here. not for long, I have about 20 minutes.

>>135131471
>Suddenly all those cocky ancaps are gone...


there always so cocky until you blow em up with facts isnt it?
>the only argument the have left is dde lmfao muh free market.
i hate ancap niggers.

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>>135131466
>The United States did the same shit with there War Bonds
And that's why I said, MEFO bills are irrelevant to your points, and relevant to mine, ie, that the Natsocs and the US were implementing nearly identical economic policies. Lets briefly review all the claims you've made that I've proven wrong:
>Natsoc = socialism
I proved, and you admitted, they were capitalist
>Capitalist democracies do better like the US did better
I've proven the US and Natsoc Keynsean policies were nearly identical
>B-but debt drove them to war
Debt as a % of GDP was constantly shrinking the entire course of the war, so this was not a factor
>inflation drove them to war
It was nominal, because of the MEFO bills and other factors
>etc
And so on and so forth. Someone sold you a bunch of myths. Now, I can PROVE why and how war actually happened. Would you like to have some redpills shoved up your ass, or would you like to take them orally?

>>135131471
dont bully them, they are our allies

>>135131739
>there always so cocky until you blow em up with facts isnt it?
Didn't blow anyone out with facts and I am still waiting for a response.

https://youtu.be/CZU2c9MuB_g
It's all happening and everyone's blind to it

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>>135131851
dude you were BTFO multiple times ITT, its hard to watch

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>>135131814
>B-but m-muh socialism !!!!!!

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>>135132116
lol nice

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>>135131851
>Getting BTFO everytime
>Thinks he "owns people with facts"

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>>135122980
>European Identity Movements
Kept saying that GI is a controlled Oppo by (((them)))

Swastika flags kept calling me /leftypol/ and accusing me of divide and conquer tactics.

>GI says Israel is based and good
>GI says give us shekels so we can rent a boat to stop refugees
>GI rents a boat with a Tamil (the darkest poo in loos you'll ever see) crew
>Crew reaches Europe, applies for Asylum
So how am I /leftypol/ and GI not making the refugee situation worse just like their (((leaders))) want?

Nazbols are not your enemies, we just understand (((them))) and (((their))) tactics slightly better than most NatSocs.

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>>135132399
>nazbol
>GI is kiked so lets all be commies
Why is Stalinist communism ever the answer, ever?
>why call me leftypol
Because leftypol specifically spreads nazbol and strasserism here, pic related

>>135131814
>nd that's why I said, MEFO bills are irrelevant to your points, and relevant to mine,
They were completely relevant to mine because the debt was still there.

>Natsocs and the US were implementing nearly identical economic policies.
One was to the state the other was to private businesses.

>I've proven the US and Natsoc Keynsean policies were nearly identical
You didn't. There is a difference between implementing social programs through taxing profits and the state controlling the capital that initially goes into the companies.

>Debt as a % of GDP was constantly shrinking the entire course of the war, so this was not a factor
Which is why it was a problem and the German economy collapsed. Just because you don't spend a portion off your GDP to pay off a debt doesn't mean the debt isn't there. If that was the case then bush didn't drive up our debt at all. By 1939 the debt was something like 36 billion.

>I proved, and you admitted, they were capitalist
Never admitted they were capitalist. Centrally planned government, state controlled capital, high tariffs, expensive welfare programs. They were capitalists in the same way the Soviet Union was.

>Debt as a % of GDP was constantly shrinking the entire course of the war, so this was not a factor
Because it was on Mefo Bills not Reichmarks. The debt was still there.

>It was nominal, because of the MEFO bills and other factors
Inflation didn't, debt did.

>NationalCuckoldists ally with mudslimes in order to kill white brits and slavs

>NationalCuckoldists still deny their anti white nature

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>>135132723
>They were completely relevant to mine because the debt was still there.
They were completely irrelevant because I already proved Debt as % of GDP was shrinking throughout the war, so it wasn't a "cause of war".
>One was to the state the other was to private businesses.
Garbled nonsense, come again?
>You didn't prove they were nearly identical
You've admitted I did already.
>Which is why it was a problem and the German economy collapsed.
It collapsed in 1945 -- due to invasion -- after rising steadily between 1933 and 1945, you've already conceded that point.
>Never admitted they were capitalist.. they were state controlled capital
This is like when you said "never offered utopia, I said you were free to pursue utopia" -- do you have a brain injury, is that why you're typing these comically obvious self-contradictory sentences?
>The debt was still there.
As a shrinking fraction of GDP, meaning, it was literally shrinking and negligible. It was smaller than when it was created, in effect.
>Inflation didn't, debt did.
Word salad, what's wrong with you?

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>>135132948
>ally with mudslimes in order to kill white brits
yawn

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>>135132948
yawn

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>>135132948
yaaaaawn

>>135122980
HEIL

>>135132617
>Why is Stalinist communism ever the answer, ever?
Because Stalinism had the best war economy and we are facing white genocide, so I want the white race to use the best war economy to overcome those who wish to eradicate me and my race.

>Because leftypol specifically spreads nazbol and strasserism here, pic related
leftypol is a bunch of faggots, but their are genuine race realists who post under the Nazbol flag. /leftypol/ is using divide and conquer tactics to keep Nazbols and Nazis from cooperating for the future of the white race..

Threads like that on /leftypol/ are used to discredit legitimate Nazbols.

I don't want Nazism to lose the next war because that would mean the end of the white race, and white nationalists need a better war economy than "Let's trust the market to produce weapons for us"

I want a planned military economy because I think that works better. Than trusting the market which has left us in the situation where White Genocide is a real problem.

I don't know what economic type is the best after the white revolution, but I'm confident that war economies need to be planned.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7wSqz71XgM

NEW RETROSTEIN

>>135133144
>They were completely irrelevant because I already proved Debt as % of GDP was shrinking throughout the war, so it wasn't a "cause of war".
The debt was still there just in mefo bills not reichmarks. Keep dancing around that point because you know it's true. Mefo bills won't show in the GDP. the Germany government had millions in debt to its people which is why the whole persecution of Jews began.

>It collapsed in 1945 -- due to invasion -- after rising steadily between 1933 and 1945, you've already conceded that point.
Because of conflicts it started holding up it's military industrial complex.

>As a shrinking fraction of GDP, meaning, it was literally shrinking and negligible. It was smaller than when it was created, in effect.
Because instead of investing with reichmarks they were using mefo bills. This is how I know I got you because you keep dancing around that little fact. If the United States government payed off a section of it's debt with bitcoin borrowed from Russia, we are still in debt to russia. It might not show on the GDP but the debt is still there.

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>>135132948
>ally with mudslimes in order to kill white slavs
Did someone say "ally with non-whites to kill whites"?

>>135133553
>Because Stalinism had the best war economy
It had a terrible economy that was dependent on loans from western capitalist bankers to stay afloat, the entire time it existed. All communism requires constant loans, which is why it joined the banker's war against Germany.

>>135133711
>The debt was still there
Shrinking, not creating an emergency of any kind. You're like 15 degrees of BTFO on that point, move on to some else. Stop embarassing yourself. Its fucking cringe.
>Because of conflicts it started holding up it's military industrial complex.
lol kiddo, i've beaten you 20 times over. Fuck off now snek meme pleb.

>>135133689
Thanks comrade.

>>135133838
>Still no answer to the Mefo Bills counterpoint.
Have fun worshiping an ideology that doesn't work. I'll just keep enjoying my capitalism and muh freedoms. Next time I buy a new truck, I'll just pay off the loan with money borrowed from a different loan and completely forget the debt. It worked wonders for the NatCucks.

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>>135134081
>MUH MEFO BILLS
Why do ancaps not understand MEFO bills, then keep repeating "MEFO bills" as if there's some profound point of logic?
>debt still wasnt driving anyone to war, it wasnt a problem
>MEFO bills were held by German banks and intermediaries, so it Germany in debt to itself
You don't even have a point anymore, you're just saying "MEFO bills" because yous aw some ancap mention it in some previous thread. If you knew what significance you were trying to argue for, you'd realize I already knew that argument and presented a pre-emptive one:

>Transactions in “mefo” bills worked as follows: “mefo” bills were drawn by armament contractors and accepted by a limited liability company called the Metallurgische Forschungsgesellschaft, m.b.H. (MEFO). This company was merely a dummy organization; it had a nominal capital of only one million Reichsmarks. “Mefo” bills ran for six months, but provision was made for extensions running consecutively for three months each. The drawer could present his “mefo” bills to any German bank for discount at any time, and these banks, in turn, could rediscount the bills at the Reichsbank at any time within the last three months of their earliest maturity.

44-dimensional BTFO here son

>>135133838
>All communism requires constant loans, which is why it joined the banker's war against Germany.
Nazis attacked the Soviet Union it was a glorious war and saying one side was good and the other side was evil is unjust to the men who fought in Stalingrad, they were all heroes.

>It had a terrible economy that was dependent on loans from western capitalist bankers to stay afloat, the entire time it existed.
Stalin never payed those loans back, I don't see an issue with taking a loan from a (((bank))) as long as you don't pay it back. Only the later (((leaders))) actually paid back shit to the (((banks)))

Of course the Soviet Union had a shitty economy it was a crappy country to begin with, but without Stalin Russia would've just lost the war in 1942 which may have been better for the world.

But regardless Stalin was better on the JQ than Churchill or Roosevelt with whom Hitler tried to ally.

If Nazis and Stalinists had allied in 1940 there wouldn't be white genocide today.

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>>135134393
No one here is ever going to come over to your side, sorry Nazbol. You're a useful idiot for leftypol ops. You fell for the meme.

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>>135134081
just stay down, its over.

>>135134509
>No one here is ever going to come over to your side, sorry Nazbol.
Not saying you should come to my side, I'm saying you should fight next to my side in the racial war.

I'm saying you attacking me, means you are attacking someone who is willing to give everything to defend the white race.

>You're a useful idiot for leftypol ops
You fell for /leftypols/ psyop and are attacking and insulting a white nationalist who will share everything he has with comrades fighting to protect the white race.

>You fell for the meme.
/leftypol/ divide and conquer strategy is working perfectly if I look at the conversation we've had.

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>>135134834
You're a commie dude. By definition, you're fighting for jews.

>>135134374
>so it Germany in debt to itself
Being this fucking stupid.

>You don't even have a point anymore, you're just saying "MEFO bills"
Because you can't counter the point.

>In 1934 Hjalmar Schacht, the Reich Minister of Economics, introduced the Mefo bills, allowing Germany to rearm without spending Reichsmarks but instead paying industry with Mefo bills (Government IOU's) which they could trade with each other. Between 1933 and 1939 the total revenue amounted to 62 billion marks, whereas expenditure (at times comprising up to 60% rearmament costs) exceeded 101 billion, thus causing a huge deficit and national debt (reaching 38 billion marks in 1939 and coinciding with Kristallnacht in November 1938)

>Borrowing money from a neighbor and spending more than you borrowed that you are unable to pay back.
>Wonder why no one in your country has money.
It was a giant ponzi scheme. You still haven't debunked this.

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Failed thread. Failed ideology.

>>135134978
>You're a commie dude.
Only during war

>By definition, you're fighting for jews.
You still haven't understood which war I will fight?

>>135134834
Get fucked you commie shit-stain, stop shitting up our thread

>>135135008
>you can't counter the point
lol dude you have two possible points, either their debt was driving them to war, or it wasn't. The debt was to their own German citizens. The US did a similar thing back then, Japan did a similar thing in the 90s, many nations do this kind of lending. Its a traditional form of lending going back centuries in Europe, before the Natsocs. The German Reichsbank system is rather unique historically. You're not even making an argument anymore, you're just saying "MEFO bills".

https://youtu.be/V_IYBF2XD30

>>135135231
>Get fucked you commie shit-stain, stop shitting up our thread
Well keep doing (((their))) work raising money to bring Tamils to Europe.

You're just a piece of shit who would rather have (((them))) win than share with comrades fighting to defend the white race.

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>>135135217
Communism is a tool of the jew: thats all it ever was, thats all it will ever be. Read Mein Kampf.

>>135135008
>Implying borrowing money from (((banks))) and not paying it back is a bad thing

>>135135296
Again their is a difference between a private institution holding your money and the state holding it in a state owned bank. Of course the debt was driving them to war so they could profit off of seized assets and repay the people. You are clearly fucking retarded if you think are just going to let you seize their money and be like to bad so sad. I seriously think you're retarded and don't understand how capital works.

>>135135536
It is, the banks are like the government, they have no money.

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Even with 100 years of witch-hunts, pogroms, and demonization, our ideology still endures, and our goal draws near. Truly it is the work of Gods.

100 years of most insane 24/7/365 brainwashing program couldn't destroy what is eternally embedded in every creature and the nature of existence.

National Socialism.

Kikes and their lolberdarian-stalinist servants have utterly lost this War.

>>135135428
>Communism is a tool of the jew
Private property in times of war weakens the national defense. Everything for the army

>Read Mein Kampf.
Have read it, Hitler lost a war he should've won and we are paying the price for it.

>>135135682
>their is a difference between a private institution holding your money and the state holding it in a state owned bank
What's the difference that applies here? How did it drive them to war, while their debt to GDP ratio kept debt a tiny % of GDP? Its like when you borrow 200 bucks, invest it, and get a return of $2million -- suddenly $200 bucks is nothing to you. That's literally what happened, look at the fucking chart I posted.
>Of course the debt was driving them to war so they could profit off of seized assets and repay the people.
THEY DIDNT NEED WAR, THEY COULD ALREADY DO THAT YOU NOCNE. Read what I've been posting, you're wasting my fucking time ignoring the evidence I post with my arguments. Fucking read asshole.
>You are clearly fucking retarded
READ THE SOURCES IM POSTING FOR YOU BRAINLET.

Not that appropriate for this thread but fuck it. Watching you nazis redpill that "CNN producer" on the Jews was sexy af. /pol/ really is unstoppable

>>135136140
>Watching you nazis redpill that "CNN producer" on the Jews
When was that?

>>135136304
Last night, he probably was a larper fag but if it was real then I can only imagine how he's gonna walk into work this morning knowing everyone he's working for is a globalist kike bastard. Bravo to the nazis you might have an inside man.

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>>135135906
>Hitler lost a war
TO YOUR BUDDY STALIN, COMMIE FAGGOT.

>>135136466
Dammit, i missed it. I was at work. Fuck, I hope he has nightmares.

>>135135932
>Be you.
>Borrow 200 reichmarks.
>Borrow 2 million reichmarks worth of mefo bills.
>Get 1 million reichmarks back after investing.
>Completely ignore 999,800 reichmarkss worth of mefo bills that you still own.
>People you owe the money to don't get their money back.
>Economy crashes.
Not surprised.

>THEY DIDNT NEED WAR, THEY COULD ALREADY DO THAT YOU NOCNE.
>By a bunch of weapons.
>Heavily arm Germany.
>Industries aren't making enough to cover debt.
>Attack poland to acquire their industries.
>Poland is nothing but farms.
>Buy more weapons.
>Agriculture has a smaller return on investment.
Have to invade more places to cover debt.

>>135135932
>Like clockwork.

>>135136697
>no argument
>no argument + "MEFO bills, checkmate" = still no argument
fucking retard can't tell when he's lost

I'm here to laugh at neo-feudalist retards.

>>135136759
bye, you have your own thread. Bye bye downie.

>>135136774
>Can't come up with a counter argument.
>hurr durr you have no argument.
>If I spend more money then I borrow my economy does well.
>NatCuck logic.
>Being this fucking stupid.
This is why national socialism didn't make it past 12 years.

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>>135137109
>i cant comprehend your argument
>i cant even comprehend my own argument
>I win haha BTFO
bye bye downie

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>>135137193
>If I spend more money than I have, my economy does well.

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>>135137426
Did you read this source or not? It presents evidence from many sources showing what you claim is false. MEFO bills didn't create a need for war, they created investment sprees leading to an economic boom. Germany was better off not being at war, this has been discussed ITT many times before. You really didnt understand your own argument, you're just calling people retard but you cant make the argument. Youre BTFO, you're embrassing youre flag dude.

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>>135122980
I love these generals
>Excited for the future anons!

>>135137426
>hurrrrr what is credit
>hurrrrr its a labor and services valued currency
>hurrrrr i learned economic theory from smiley memes in /lrg/
wew lad

>tfw when after pol turning into nupol even nsg is under attack
>tfw amerishart elections ruined this board

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Ich bin kein Roboter.

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>>135137426
>i don't understand credit
>i think household debt and sovereign debt are the same

>>135138578
Wow. He looks less menacing clean shaven.

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BAAAAMP

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>>135138649
that's because everybody remotely european have been brainwashed from birth through film, media and eduction to align the losing side of world war 2 as synonymous with evil, i.e. allied war propaganda, of which most only started coming into effect after the 1960s ( in fact here in Holland people kept naming their children Adolf well after world war 2 in the same quantities until the 1960s and onwards when the usage of the name suddenly dropped like a rock. Pic related.


Today the current generations have a worse opinion of Hitler all because of film. Here in Holland 12 year olds are forced to watch The Boy in Striped Pyjamas and accept that as fact

>>135138259
really puts a sinking feeling in my stomach, friendo. sad times.

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>>135122980

>>135139387
Its just sad and pathethic desu

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>>135139784

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Proof Hitler didn't hate Slavs:

Jozef Tiso was a Slovak Catholic priest and was a National Socialist sympathizing politician. He was also a friend of Hitler. In this link, you can find a picture of him shaking hands with Hitler:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jozef_Tiso

Hitler granted independence to the Slovak Republic under Jozef Tiso. He did the same thing with Croatia, another Slavic country. Why would he do that if he had goals to exterminate Slavs?

There were also Slavs fighting for Hitler from Ukraine. They were called the 14th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/14th_Waffen_Grenadier_Division_of_the_SS_(1st_Galician)
Pic related is a celebration in Ukraine for this division.

See this video for footage of Slavs fighting for Germany:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GG9U1A-3rSI&t=0h0m0s

The reality of lebensraum:
https://web.archive.org/web/20170225193943/https://justice4germans.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/j4g-notes-on-lebensraum.pdf

Generalplan Ost refuted:
http://revblog.codoh.com/2011/02/the-latest-effort-to-combat-denial-i-e-holocaust-revisionism/
http://holocausthandbooks.com/dl/19-s.pdf (pgs. 236-243)
http://holocausthandbooks.com/dl/28-tecoar.pdf (pgs. 168-192)

Myth of massive Polish death toll:
https://codoh.com/library/document/1459/

Keep the good fight OP. Thought today /nsg/ wasnt going to be postes.

So nsg after learning the truth what can one man do ?

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>>135146830
Build connections in your community, prepare yourself mentally and physically, etc.

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>>135146830
Find the others. Organize. Teach. Prepare.

https://murdercube.com/

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>>135147504
Whats the best way to build physical fitness?

It's something I want to do, but a field I am clueless about.

>28 posts of semitic screeching
I love the ass hurt these threads bring

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bump

>>135147986
https://www.bodybuilding.com/category/training

They also have the best products/prices in the "store" section

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>>135147986
Go to /fit/ and read the sticky. It lays it out better than I ever could.

>>135122980
bump

>>135147504
>>135147946
>prepare
for what ?revolution? dont kid me people are too lazy retarded and so on

The guy in the OP's photo is a Jew.

His name is Shicklgruber.

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Truth Serum's account got deleted.

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>>135147986
You gotta rotate routines GO through phases:
>bulking - high weight, low reps (6-8 max)
>strengthening - kettlebells, long cycle sets, 2 hand snatch burnouts, tractor tire flips
>martial arts - heavy bag, sparring, some kind of weapon training
>hiking - summer and winter hikes, snowshoe, learning to camp in the winter using siberian log fires, etc
>bushcraft - various topics
>marksmanship - rifles, handguns, bows
Just rotate, once you get in a routine and stop feeling progress, change it up.

>>135148632
>prepare for what ?
Anything. Survival.

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>>135148588
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r_54T6Sq16A

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this jew was being paid

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:)

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Leafs getting raked

>>135122980
I hope you people are all below 18 because if not, you need to seriously consider your life choices.

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>>135150129
Damn, they were qts

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>>135151119
Quality post, very inspiring, extremely compelling; made me rethink my life, and have an epiphany. Wtf I hate natsoc now.

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>>135151121
They were creating qts with German efficiency lol

>all these lolbertarian shitposters ITT
do they realize their endgame is as delusional as the commie endgame? Something that isn't sustainable in reality and only happens in dreams
>>135151119
How about you give some legitimate arguments and not virtue signal you retarded tripcode

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>>135151119
I was a hippie, then I was lefty libertarian, then I seriously considered my life choices and became a Nazi.

>>135151424
>virtue signal
That's all they're doing, and its such cuck masturbation since no one's ever going to see and pat them on the head for it.

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>>135151860
this test is more accurate

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>>135151978
Yeah, but I haven't kept track of my results on it going back 5 years.

Would someone explain to me the appeal of fascism on /pol/?

>>135147986
Weight lifting swimming and eating.

Dont get fat. Do it everyday. Work a little harder than yesterday.

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>>135152241
>>135151978
tfw "centrist" NS

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>>135152285
>the appeal of fascism
Specifically fascism, not NS? I think because a lot of the fascists know that there was more of a civic nationalist "agnosticism" in fascism regarding race. Mussolini pretty much denied race realism.

>>135152459
Hmmmmmmmmm.

>>135152562
you have to answer the questions as if your system is already in power and functional, not from the perspective of the situation as it currently is. (that's why my results are this way)

>>135148726
These cunts will pay for what theyve done.

The ratface lolberts convinced me to make another Hitler translated speech.

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>>135152562
>Fascism didn't have a conception of race
>Mussolini denied race realism

Are you fucking retarded? Go fucking do research instead of being a moronic shill

“Well we, Fascisti, want to bring into every city, into every part of the country, even the most remote, the pride and passion of belonging to the most noble Italian race; the race which has produced Dante, which has given Galileo, the greatest masterpieces of art, Verdi, Mazzini, Garibaldi and d’Annunzio to the world, and which has produced the people who won Vittorio Veneto.” -Speech in Ferrara, April 4, 1920

“In the first place she (the Italian nation) has a sure foundation, and that is the vitality of our race.” -Speech in Trieste, September 20, 1920


Fascism and National Socialism is the same exact worldview

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Also,

>white nationalism
>not completely and utterly cucked

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>>135154116
I could point out how affirmative action was a Jewish creation in both Canada and in the USA, how they were the driving force behind opening our borders, how the lawsuits that allowed near unrestricted abortion in our countries were both lead by kikes or hell I could lay out the thousands of hooked noses behind the drug/porn/tranny degeneracy they target our children with.. etc. etc.

>>135154399
Absolutely true

**** ATTENTION ****
https://mobile.twitter.com/Millennial_Matt/status/890058213214834688

>>135154602
Interesting but I think it'll turn out pretty pointless unless one of them goes full 14/88 desu

>>135155512
Matt seems full 88 to me. I just don't see that debate ever happening. The fact people are debunking in the comment section is a positive enough outcome though. The jews are slipping up lol

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>>135153896
>Are you fucking retarded? Go fucking do research instead of being a moronic shill
This level of discourse gets so boring, anon. Before you scream "shill", maybe ask a question or two to see why someone argues what they do: here are two quotes from 'THE DOCTRINE OF FASCISM' by Benito Mussolini (1932), and pic related is a Mosley quote:

>Grouped according to their several interests, individuals form classes; they form trade-unions when organized according to their several economic activities; but first and foremost they form the State, which is no mere matter of numbers, the suns of the individuals forming the majority. Fascism is ...[oriented] to express itself in the conscience and the will of the mass, of the whole group ethnically molded by natural and historical conditions into a nation, advancing, as one conscience and one will, along the self same line of development and spiritual formation (18). NOT A RACE, NOR A GEOGRAPHICALLY DEFINED REGION...
>Not a race, nor a geographically defined region, but a people, historically perpetuating itself; a multitude unified by an idea and imbued with the will to live, the will to power, self-consciousness, personality (19).
And the footnote here reads:
>(19)Race: it is a feeling and not a reality; 95 %, a feeling. (E. Ludwig, Talks with Mussolini, London, Allen and Unwin, 1932, p. 75).
So we see a clear de-emphasis in Mussolini's writings on race. Mosley was also "less emphatic", especially on the JQ. I don't accuse either of being ignorant of race, but for various reasons, de-emphasized it. Later, Mussolini passed laws mirroring the 3rd Reich's, but only at the insistence of the Germans. Mussolini did NOT have the same Weltanschauung on race and Aryan people as the Natsocs did. The Natsocs went way, way further with respect to race than most fascists, probably because fascism tended to take root in nations that had colonial histories with many races. Germany had far less of a colonial experience.

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>>135153896
Also, Falangists were essentially silent on the JQ. Codreanu was not, by contrast, and while he gets grouped with Fascists, Iron Guard tends to get labeled "clerical fascism", and seen as somewhat different. I think Codreanu had the same vision as Hitler though.

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>>135156356
I apologize for calling you a shill, but there are a great many shills who wish to separate fascism/NS for stupid reasons

You are correct that Italian Fascism's official racial doctrine was less concretely developed, but their views concerning nation and race. Mussolini, along with Italian Fascists, did believe in this reality, however less defined it was, and came from the same worldview of truth as German National Socialists.

As Mussolini went on, he along with others sought to develop a more concrete racial doctrine, although he did have a racial/national view from the very beginning

http://ironmarch.org/index.php?/topic/4333-italian-racial-concepts/#comment-93004

It is correct to say that Italian Fascism and German National Socialism differed in certain specific points, but they are not essentially differing, and they especially don't differ on overall worldview.

Fascism/National Socialism is not just a worldview in their time, but it is the essential worldview of truth. In different nations at different times, it may be applied differently and seem different on the outside, but internally the worldview is the same and has always been the same

>>135156989
The above can be applied to other Fascist/NS movements in various countries. It looks different on the outside because nations/ethnicitys differ as well as different races differing, and the application of the worldview of truth will differ

>>135156989
Also to comment on the Falangists, Franco turned the Fascist movement in Spain into a conservative revolutionary one. Francoist Spain was not at all Fascist and if true Fascist Falangism took power, it would have been quite a revolutionary state and not like the kosher situation we see now

>>135154116
this
white nationalism is a mutt meme

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>>135157267
>>135157466
Yeah, its hard sometimes to tell what exactly would have played out. I think for various reasons, Fascists just had less reason to worry about race above, say, communism. Spain had ejected most of its Jewish population during the crusades/reconquista, who then traveled North to places like Belgium, Germany, the UK, etc. We see that Leon Degrelle was redpilled on the JQ early on, and quickly became Natsoc when given the chance, after the French cracked down. Most Eastern Europeans were more likely to be redpilled on the JQ. Italy also got rid of most of its Jews centuries ago, but some like d'Anunzio spoke as if he knew, but he often denounced anti-semtism and let Jews be part of Fiume, unfortunately. I think d'Annunzio would have made a better il Duce than Mussolini.

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>>135157504
>white nationalism is a mutt meme
You might think so, but white genocide is real. The people who want to wipe you out see all Europeans as "white", they don't give a shit about ethnic differences that you care about. You're targeted for extermination. Either you'll wake up to this and learn some kind of racial solidarity with other Europids, or it will catch you off guard, too little too late.

http://youtu.be/uMfk5UeGw4E

>>135156356
Wouldn't that make it inferior to NS? Honestly my question was more in regard to practical implementations of fascism, i.e. I don't think you should make a government/dictator into god because governments have proven themselves incompetent and out of touch with the people, and when the head of state or whoever is in charge dies it would spell massive instability. Also it would cost a fortune to maintain the robust administration which means higher taxes and I'd imagine that it would be hard to put out new ideas because the big man can put the jackboot down and silence anyone. Just doesn't seem to me like a good system of government. Nobody wants to live under an orwellian superstate

>>135158357
Just because I am not a white nationalist that doesnt mean I want to see every other ethnicity die out and including mine.

>>135158357
>White genocide
I've never liked that meme. Reeks of victimhood. I'd rather talk about reclaiming and having a spiritual struggle for what is truly ours

Also, cooperating with brother peoples doesn't mean you have to throw away your own people and nation, that is libcuck shit

White Nationalism was a movement started with NO real goals other than "white mystery meat" states. That's really it. That is why WN attract so much faggots and degenerates.

White Nationalism has no hope of actually saving the white race. Only National Socialism/Fascism can do that at this point. "White Mystery Meat" Nationalism will save jack fucking shit

>>135158044
You touch on great points

>>135158690
Fascism/NS doesn't see "dictatorship" as an end-goal, just as a tool that can be used to create an organic state.

Also, Fascist's views on the state are different than simply believing in some massive administration. A true Fascist/NS organic state is an expression of the people, the race, the nation. That is what it talked about.

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>>135158690
>Wouldn't that make it inferior to NS?
Depends on if you want to keep your empire together, ie, keep the UK with all its Irish and British and Lakis and Indians and Africans, or if you just want a small country for Anglo-Saxon-Celts, or something.

>>135158739
I know, I'm referring to the European tendency to treat white nationalism as "a colonial meme", looking down on it as "a movement for mutts". I'm sure every JIDF on this board jizzes their pants to hear you say that. White Nationalism doesn't necessarily mean "a state defined by race alone, ignoring ethnicity"; in fact, it compatible with the currently existing ethno-national identities -- its just another layer of awareness. Being aware of race, that you have a common survival with other Europids, is the only thing that's going to let us face the Globalist threat. The Globalists are international, all jews around the world have racial solidarity. Goyim are divided, easy to manipulate.

>>135158902
>white genocide reeks of victimhood
Not all victimhood requires that you embrace it as a response; if someone tries to victimize you, its a call to arms. Its a righteous call to crusade. Just depends on how you portray it -- if your answer is "we must fight back, we must survive" then its not pathological victim-hood. People were brought up to think the Holohoax was the greatest evil in human history; they need to hear that the Jews are trying to do the same in revenge.

>>135159543
But white nationalism is a colonial meme. And white nationalism itself is very globalist too if you think about it.
>jews have racial solidarity
Actually its ethnic solidarity. If they were racialy solidarists then they would be the best friends of the arabs.

>>135159187
I can get behind that, thanks

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>>135159951
>But white nationalism is a colonial meme
Once you study Natsoc racialism, you realize that's not true; NS was the ultimate development of white nationalism: ethnic nationalism respected, Aryan peoples in international solidarity, constituted with respect to cultural tradition, language, etc. Like I just said, white nationalism does not mean "a nation based on race" only. You can still have a France for the French, a Germany for Germans, a Hungary for Hungarians, etc -- but they all recognize that they are ultimately part of the same broad racial classification (Europid, Aryan, Japhetic, etc), and they all have a shared racial interest, at least in mutual defense. The Jews have this international solidarity, despite being "citizens" of various nations. Jews see their race before they see anything else, and historically worked for the interest of their race above anything else. Its an advantage they have that we lack.
>jews are arabs
Not true, not genetically or according to their traditions; Jewish notions of race are idiosyncratic.

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>>135159543
> its just another layer of awareness

National Socialism/Fascism embraces awareness on ALL truth. There is no fucking point to being a White Nationalist unless you explicitly want to cuck yourself in one area or another. White Mystery Meat Nationalism historically and presently is filled with retards and degenerates because they explicitly have no goals other than mystery meat nationalism. If you actually believe in the realities of race, ethnicity, gender, etc. then what point is there of calling yourself a WN? Call yourself a Nazi and don't be a fucking pussy

Also, White Nationalism makes no sense linguistically, as you can't be nationalist for something that isn't even a nation. "white" isn't a fucking nation, so by definition white nationalism can never even exist!

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>>135160515
>there are WNs who do things the wrong way
>thus all WN is defined by the lowest common denominator
Sorry m8, these are terrible reasons to decide against the value of racial identity. You're throwing the baby out with the bath water. Natsoc got WN right the first time, even if people are ignorant of it in the present. You are the target of white genocide, you can't afford not to have some kind of unifying white identity, and racial laws for preserving race in "white nations".

>>135160489
Your post doesn't describe White Nationalism. It describes National Socialism/Fascism. The WN movement was never (and especially not now) explicitly National Socialist/Fascist at all!

NatSoc/Fascism has ALWAYS embraced cooperating with brother nations.

>>135160794
>Your post doesn't describe White Nationalism. It describes National Socialism/Fascism
These are one and the same.
>The WN movement was never (and especially not now) explicitly National Socialist/Fascist at all!
You're going to have to figure out if WNs have been getting it wrong, like you said, or not. Also, study what predated Natsoc in terms of WN in the Anglosphere -- its not at all what most people are familiar with today. WASP WN died with WWII and the victory of Zionism.

>>135160785
NS/Fascism explicitly BELIEVES in valuing race. WN is a modern conception, not an old one.

WN is an entirely separate MOVEMENT from NS, and came MUCH MUCH after. That is just a fact, and acting like they are the same is disingenuous.

Saying NS and WN is the same is like saying National Socialism is the alt-right. It makes no fucking sense

>>135161081
>WN is a modern conception, not an old one.
Respectfully, that's simply false. WASP white nationalism has a long tradition, and most people in the Anglosphere are familiar with WN in WASP terms. WASP WN is dead, it died -- ironically -- with the defeat of Natsoc.

>>135122980
Who else here /pessimistic/?
I feel like the only thing I can do is improve myself and watch while everything around me goes to shit.

>>135161276
Its not easy m8. You really have to disconnect your emotions from things you can't change by obsessing or thinking about them. Work on building, creating, and progressing. Work on having tangible results in your life.

>>135161081
>inb4 muh dickie reply

Hey NSG anon, can you start adding national socialist folk music to these?

https://paddytarleton.bandcamp.com

https://byrondelavandal.bandcamp.com/track/diddle-i-diddle-o-cascadian-ballad

>>135161690
assemble a good list of links and post them all at once, it will get noticed and added

>>135161276
but thats all you can do

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>>135161081
>WN is an entirely separate MOVEMENT from NS, and came MUCH MUCH after
I should have given you some examples, and not just said "that's not true". In my study, I think WASP WN was the default racialism for British colonies. French, Spanish, and Portuguese all had different racialist policies for their colonies. The Portuguese were the most liberal, and the least concerned with race. The Spanish were the next "least concerned", though slightly more than the Portuguese. In the most conservative end of the spectrum, you had the French, and then the British as the MOST racially "purist". So that's what I mean by WASP racialism coming before NS. Also, because the WASP establishment was so thoroughly infiltrated by Jews, and later on, by Zionism, it came to resemble Zionism over time. That's why you could have things like the Balfour declaration, because British aristocrats were sympathetic to Zionism. Zionism spent the post-war period eradicating WASP WN from the cultural mainstream in the Anglosphere.

Some sources:

https://smashculturalmarxism.wordpress.com/2015/02/03/genocidal-kaufman-and-hooton-plans-for-germany-became-the-reality-for-all-of-western-europe/

https://www.stormfront.org/posterity/race/blackgift.html

http://www.bellavistaranch.net/genealogy/casta.html

https://www.cs.princeton.edu/~chazelle/politics/france.html

>>135122980
>Socialism
you lost me there. i never know if this is just irony or retardation from you guys.

>>135163438
Interesting post.

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>>135163960
I think it's more like you being to lazy or stupid to read the thread. Just press F3 then type "socialism". A 10 year old is smart enough to figure it out, not sure what problem you might be having.

>>135122980
Are the Jews uniquely evil? They're currently in control, but the same can be said of Anglos and other Europeans back in the day. And these other Europeans weren't totally honest (see Anglo involvement with Rhodesia). Then again, they were probably much better rulers. I also think of the hatred people have for Jews, and the subversive tactics the alt right resorts to sometimes, and I wonder if we're acting like Jews.

I'm not trying to be subversive, this is an honest question. Honestly I just posted it here so someone can prove me wrong.

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>>135164367
>Are the Jews uniquely evil?
Uniquely ethnocentric. It certainly looks like evil if you study it closely enough. They hate the goyim and want them enslaved or dead.

卐 - Jews in High Places
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>200 Years together by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
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https://my.mixtape.moe/adkmzj.pdf
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https://wikispooks.com/wiki/File:Germany_Must_Perish.pdf
>The Jewish Century by Yuri Slezkine
https://www.docdroid.net/kXW5Tab/yuri-slezkine-the-jewish-centurybookzzorg.pdf.html
>You Gentiles by Maurice Samuels
https://archive.org/details/YouGentiles_414
>Steinlight: 'The Jewish Stake in America's Changing Democracy'
http://cis.org/articles/2001/back1301.html
https://archive.is/2najE
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>>135163960
>>135163960
Lurk more

>Our adopted term ‘Socialist has nothing to do with Marxian Socialism. Marxism is anti-property; true socialism is not. Marxism places no value on the individual, or individual effort, of efficiency; true Socialism values the individual and encourages him in individual efficiency, at the same time holding that his interests as an individual must be in consonance with those of the community.
-Adolf Hitler

>>135164544
But isn't that true of many races anon?

From my point of view, I don't only think of Jews as a threat to white people but to humanity in general. It seems they want to corrupt and subvert everything. Do the Jews have any culture themselves? It seems mostly based around destroying other people's cultures and degrading people.

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>>135164951
>jews are not a threat to white people
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>>135165174
jews are a threath to every non jew

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>>135164951
>But isn't that true of many races anon?
Well, in a more primitive instinctual fashion. Some asian cultures seem as ethno-centric as Jews, but for the Jews -- literally "a religion devoted to a race" -- their race is uniquely fetishized because they are nomadic. I highly recommend you read "The Jewish Century" by Yuri Slezkine to understand this. Also "You Gentiles", those two books together will tell you what you need to know.
>From my point of view, I don't only think of Jews as a threat to white people but to humanity in general.
Well, all non-jews are "goyim" to them, and all goyim are prophecised to become the slave races of the Jews. I think most elite jews are fine killing the world rather than losing in their ambitions.

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>>135164951
Understand that the goyim are "just animated flesh, no soul". Theyre like animals, they are just animated meat.

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>>135165368
but they focus their evils on whites (aka Rome , Europe)

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>>135167403
this is true. is is an ancient Jewish obsession to take revenge on "Rome", aka, the nations of goyim:
https://archive.org/details/romeandjerusale02waxmgoog

>>135167498
lol saved

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>>135168045'

>>135168064
The jews started the "Great Fire of Rome" because they thought a prophecy would be fulfilled. There's a "Secrets of the dead" episode on it.

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>>135168565
interesting, didn't know that. hmmmmmmmmmm

Join the Northwest Front. Come home, white man.

>>135137426

Lmao, when everyone has a debt based monetary system and all western economies did well under that... spending more than they have.

It a certain point it becomes easy spotting the economic illiterate. Probably a commie in disguise.

>>135168888
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Fire_of_Rome

the """""Christians""""" were really jews at the time who wanted to fulfill the prophecy of the return of the second coming of the Messiah . Star Sirius (aka dog) was the key to solving the mystery. On that night the Star was visible exactly as the Biblical prophecy foretold and the jews saw it as a devine occurrence. You can use a stellarium to check where the Star Sirius was on the night of the fire. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirius

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>>135170557
Holy shit dude, Semitic Controversies has an article on it:
http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2015/01/how-jews-and-not-christians-started.html

At some point I need to make it a goal to read every article on that website.

>>135165776
>Jews accusing others of being Satanic
Lol. The "3 satanic spheres" thing reminds me of Buddhism, where you've got the 3 "fuels" of life that are put there by a demon and keep you bound to earth.

In reality Jews are much more tied to the physical world than goyim are.

>>135169563
White people's home is in Europe and that's where I'll be next year (for the rest of my life)

>>135171383
Europe is such a shithole nowadays anon. It's best to build up a strong movement in America that can then aid Europe's nationalist movements, that's the only way to win IMO

>>135122980
thx for the thread

>>135171383
Nothing but darkness awaits you in Europe. They will stop at nothing to halt us. We must make a new homeland for our people free of the zog.

>>135171207
http://www.hakirah.org/Vol%2016%20Balk.pdf

>>135171829
Hail victory.

>>135171689
It might not have the status the US currently does but there is no way of coming back from 50% non white with jews running everything here. You'll end up like Waco. There is zero chance to change anything here because of full jewish control and the strangle hold they have through debt. The jews have white Americans in an impossible position (low wages, high debt, full media control and muh democracy memes.)
You're just wasting valuable time imo

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>>135173241
>You're just wasting valuable time imo
If we're as checkmated as you claim, then no one's time is valuable anymore, and nothing matters; resist or kill yourself, both are worth the same. I don't think you're right though, not by a long shot. I think at any point, events have the power to trigger political wildfires. Its just a question of what it takes to trigger whites. You have to try to answer that question without relying on the media, because the purpose of the media is to give you the sense that youre idolated, alone, marginal, and none of your thoughts or concerns are shared.

>>135172028
>Europe is in darkness
How else can you get people interested in necessary change if everyone is under some grand illusion of victorious (((maga))). I have more confidence in a European Renaissance in the next 14 years than here. Capitalists, war profiteers and jews have cemented their power in the US.

$20 Trillion national debt and $13 Trillion personal debt. The paralyzing venom has already been injected. Nobody here can afford to react anymore.

>>135173241
America is far more free than Europe. You can't even legally post in this thread in Europe. I don't want to live in a small community like Waco, I want these ideas to spread to all white people. America is the vector from which to spread these ideas as it still has a degree of free speech left.

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>>135173942
Every move you can possibly make here already has a (((narrative))) set. There are 1,488 government agencies reading this very post right now.

They have everything working smoothly and several back up plans. The white's frustrations were relieved by (((trump))) just like blacks were by obama. Everything is here is a shadow on the wall. If pol spent weeks making fucking cnn memes while trump imported opium to kill more whites, do you really think anything will wake up white Americans (trump will just do a few more rallies and the goys will continue marching in tune. A few "controversies" to occupy the masses and the 2020 show begins anew.

pic related .. tells you all you need to know

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>>135175969
>Every move you can possibly make here already has a (((narrative))) set
You can't actually know that yet, since we've only made a tiny ffraction of all possible moves. We aren't even in the "white civil rights" size phase of a movement, which is itself smaller than the "armed conflict" phase of resistance.
>There are 1,488 government agencies reading this very post right now.
You're being a jackass now. Obvious FUD and demoralization shitpost.

>>135175204
>freedom
You can have all the freedom in the world, but that doesn't mean jews will not control your actions.
American freedom =
>take out $100,000 school loan or work for $10 an hour
>have your kids doped up on toxic vaccines or risk losing your kids
>lose home when jews manipulate the stock market and crash the economy or be forced to white flight every 2 years.
>work in a coal mine or die in a sand box
>completely isolate kids or watch them learn about anal sex at 10 from their jewish teacher.

they give you the "freedom" to follow orders willingly.. nothing more

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFNbtI4NDcA&list=PLu2u08jJZuMPYmjKaxrxIAfmAbpFL57CQ&index=3

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>>135176274
this is exactly what I'm referring to. Look at that fucking picture! If hillary won and chelsea worked for the White house while owing the Rothschilds $250 million, would you still think "it's all good because muh freedoms"?!

Like I said, if pol still shills for (((trump))) after all the evidence he's another puppet, do you still believe the average civic nationalist will ever wake up.

the second whites wake up, the second you'll be sent to a sandbox to die for muh freedoms.

>>135177218
What's your point even? You seem to have ignored my post to go off on a tangent. You haven't made an argument against anything I said.

>>135178496
>what's your point
you'll realize one day, I hope it's not to late

>>135178496
>The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money.

stopstop worshipping the state

>>135181615
stop worshipping inbreds

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>come home white man (Europe)

>>135185043
ma doare in pula de ce crede niște ciori și păpuși la jidani jegos

>>135186071
lmao wrong thread

>>135181296
I'm not saying Americas perfect, all I'm saying is that it's the best Western place to spread ideas from. I mostly agree with you on the whole "we aren't truly free" thing but what you're saying doesn't invalidate my point anon.