What exactly makes having transgender people in the army a bigger

Emotional instability due to gender and identity issues impedes performance in high pressure violent situations.
This puts the lives of other soldiers in real and immediate danger.

Officers are afraid to discipline then properly for fear of career ending controversy.
This leads to the appearance of favoritism which kills unit morale dead.

Medical expenses need to be covered by the military and they can be excessive. If the gender reassignment surgery is carried out the soldier is immediately and permanently combat non effective due to ongoing dilation requirements as well as being very expensive.

>>135096142
I read that the total cost of trans medical expenses in the US military was $8 million. That isn't even pennies to them. It was the other reasons.

>>135095473
This is going to be declared "unconstitutional" and blocked anyway, like Trump's Muslim ban.

We have enough of the tranny threads
Saged

>>135095473
You raise a good point. Woman and fags should also be banned from the military.

>>135096417
8 million to pay for troops who are not combat effective and reduce the morale of their comrades.

8 million to lower the overall effectiveness, not raise it.

>>135095473
they're next

>>135095473
the motivation is to distract you from his scandals and failing presidency and to sure up support from conservative roobs

Bradley Manning did not switch sexes willingly. He was made an example of by having his cock and balls cut off then subject to years of solitary. He was a stern warning to leakers. Manning is why Snowden knew to leave the country.

>>135095473
Political pandering. The reality is that trannies are suicide for a functioning military unit.

In complete honesty the ideal military is one of uniform fashion and discipline, this means that a lack of individuality in the common solider is necessary except for the fanatical belief in victory and in the confidence towards leadership.

Leaders should be far more flexible but instead of going on about the ideal leader in a military setting I will simply leave it at this: leftists are incapable of defending themselves, are coddled little cowards who will see us all destroyed before we can even fire a shot, and will lead the entire planet towards collective suicide.

Any step in their direction is one step closer to annihilation.

>>135095473

The military is a place of life and death, horrifying circumstances and pain. Not a place for the milquetoast politicians and their pet identity-driven minorities to play havoc.

Transgendered folk are largely mentally ill wastrels, as are 'multi-gender birdkin' and all other fucking retarded degenerates.

There is no place for this on the battlefield. When the bombs are dropping and men are dying to your left and right, you want someone standing beside you with a clear head on their shoulders, not someone whose greatest concern in life has been social pressure from various groups because they can't determine if their penis makes them male.

It's really that simple. Political correctness does not function in a trench. Get your milk drinking, weak-kneed social justice dialogue out of life and death; this is an environment for actual men who aren't confused about who they are, what they can and cannot do, and what they stand for.

Fucking degenerates.

We already allow women into the military, who are unfit and destroy unit cohesion. Why not also let the trannies in too? Not like we'll see conventional warfare again.

>>135097148
Perfect post.

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>>135095473
It's a health hazard. If a tranny has to dilate her gash with a dildo in Afghanistan and is not following proper disinfecting measures, their gash could become inflamed and hamper battlefield performance.

>>135095473
Cis-women don't spend their time shoving shit into their holes to make sure they don't close up and injecting themselves full of hormones so their chest hair doesn't grow back.

Also, fuck this "cis" bullshit". These motherfuckers want us to "respect their pronouns" while labeling us something none of us ever asked for or agreed to so go fuck yourselves you delusional double standard cunts.

>>135097062
snowden was a mole.

>>135097407

Thank you.
>t. Enlisted Marine (2002-2010)

>>135095473

trump's motivation as always is to distract the media for a few days, he did this all during the campaign, its nothing new, why we are surprised is beyond me.

and he wont stop until mueller publishes his findings and trump gets the boot

>>135097869
For what?

>>135096713
Women aren't combat effective and reduce the morale of their comrades but we let them in.

>>135097148
>muh (((hero)))
>trench

>>135098070

>muh armed services are all jew-slaves
>muh everyone who owns a gun is jew-slave
>muh entire society is jew-slaves
>muh tendies got cold cuz jews
>muh

I can do that too, retard.

>>135095473
They are mentally ill and therefore are not reliable.

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>>135097439
>If a tranny has to dilate her gash with a dildo in Afghanistan and is not following proper disinfecting measures, their gash could become inflamed and hamper battlefield performance.
>americans have to unironically explain this with a straight face

>>135095473
>what exactly makes having paranoid schizophrenics in the army a bigger problem than...

These people are mentally ill. Even after surgery they have a 40% chance of killing themselves.

Also they need tons of additional meds and funny devices like an actual dildo to keep the fake-vagina open. (not making it up)

>>135096479
Supreme Court is conservative now

Can the wrong community stop crying for a fucking day

>>135097615
they dug a hole into his penis and made a vagina; only moles dig like that

>>135095473
Here's an rough

>>135098062
True. It's to a far far lesser degree than trans people though.

Women can make decent snipers though, the Soviets showed that in ww2

Another tranny shillpost

Cucks btfo

>>135098209
No you are definitely right about all of your bravery and sacrifice and trenches. I'm sure of it. Calling in the A-10s against goatfuckers with kalashnikovs is srsherobsns.

Good luck self-medicating your PTSD with vodka. But remember: kys is an option.

>>135099113
Killing yourself is for trannies.

Gee, why should we avoid putting automatic weapons in the hands of a bunch of mentally unstable, suicide-prone human failures? Why shouldn't we have them responsible for defending our lives in a foxhole?

>>135095473
anyone wanting to enlist at this time is a fucking retard anyway.
far better ways to get thrills than dying for some kike war. send the trannys to the front lines.
operation human shield

Because you cant run faster than hadji bullets when you have your dick tucked up your ass.

>>135095473
To court attention from the only people who still like President Trump.

>>135096417
I don't give a shit if it costs $.50 a year. I don't want a single cent of my money going to fund some retard faggot's mental illness

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How is the slippery slope a fallacy again?

Guns have no hairball ammo support.

>>135098586
Unfortunately we can't just put them to death here mohammed

>>135097148
Best post I've seen all day. Thanks anon.

>>135095473
The picture of that ugly traitorous man-cunt that you posted is reason enough!

>>135095473
Whoa, SHE is hawt. I wouldn't mind sharing my secrets with her if you know what I mean (^:

>>135095473
>what's wrong with tranny soldiers?

The cost of health care paid for by the government to help a bunch of mentally ill people keep an open wound between their legs.

>>135095473
The true corn fed soldier hates the tranny

>>135096142
>Emotional instability due to gender and identity issues impedes performance in high pressure violent situations.

Probably still better than Cis women.

>Officers are afraid to discipline then properly for fear of career ending controversy.
This leads to the appearance of favoritism which kills unit morale dead.

This differs from cis women how?

>Medical expenses need to be covered by the military and they can be excessive.

This differs from all the snow flakes with anti antidepressant medication and PTSD how?

>>135097148
I agree with you except lots of regular guys in the military obviously don't have a clear head on their shoulders either.

Trannies shouldn't be allowed, but there's a lot of mentally ill/emotionally unstable straight cis soldiers too.

>>135097131

It's funny because a lot of black graffiti artists and even people who are know tattoo artists were in the military in the 80's.

I don't see the problem really... The military is a place for special snow flakes.

>Think they are tough guys
>Get depression
>Get PTSD
>Ask for hand outs
>Suicide

Trannys would fit in well with these snowflakes.

>>135095473

they are more prone to suicide than any other fucking group

they are a LIABILITY

get them the fuck out.

>>135095473
I love how all this ban has motivated is whataboutisms?

"Like OMG! You banned transwomen of color?! Like literally what's next? Do you want there to be nobody in the military but strong able-bodied men born and bred in the USA with above average IQs and unwavering loyalty to country??"

>>135103666
It sounds like you are describing niggers not veterans.

>>135103806
Pretty much all soldiers.

Soldiers are special snowflakes... who get PTSD and kill themselves.

Not much different from trans people really.

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>>135095473

1. M to F literally have a gaping wound at all times.

2. F to M are probably better than women in the military

just super sayin.

>>135095473
Cis women need to be banned too.

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>>135095473
>What exactly makes having transgender people in the army a bigger problem than say, cis-Women?

>>135097148

best post

the military is about combat, not mental illness and feelings and 1000000 fake genders.

>>135096142
This, but also physical fitness is an issue. Military would have to judge a transgender woman by women's standards for physical fitness. This means a fat shit transgender woman who couldn't "make it" if she still had a penis would be deemed good to go.

>>135095473
>cis
Get out of here you fucking faggot

>>135101658
This.

>>135096417
Implying others wouldn't come out of the woodwork to join up for a free sex change operation. Trannies have never been allowed in the military and the policy to allow them in was still under review. That review has been completed and they will continue to not be allowed in. If they want to mutilate themselves after discharge, they can go for it, but uncle sam won't be footing the bill.

>>135105030
I seriously hope some patriot group is plotting his assassination right now

>>135096417
How many trannies was this for? 15?

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>>135095473
>cis
You spelled "normal" wrong, faggot.

Trannies commit suicide at a ridiculously higher rate then normal people. Considering soldiers already have elevated suicide rates it's a terrible idea to give some mentally ill freak a gun.

>>135095473
Women accepted in the army show that the army is no more important in developped countries. What is important is having nukes and other massive destruction weapon.

The same could be said about politics. When women is the politics, it means the real power got away.

>>135105698
women are in*

>>135096417
>$8 million so a gross tranny can sit around in recovery for four years dilating necrotic flesh so it doesn't scab over and close
why would anybody want this

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>>135105030
That's the mastermind behind the largest leak of top secret documents in modern military history.

Fucking WOW.

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Bc biology

>>135097148
>The military is a day-care center for unemployed low socio-economic bullet sponges
>Transgendered folk are largely mentally ill wastrels, as are white supremacists and gun -nuts
>The battlefield is the best place for all these people
>History is sprinkled with great warriors who were women, gay, insane, unstable or obsessed with little boys
>my idea of masculinity springs directly from my insecurities and daddy issues and gets me into arguments on the internet that leave me fuming and winning said arguments in the shower as my brain is 75% occupied with being right, with little energy left over to determine what is best
Fixed your baby-talk post, he-man.

>>135099193
erm, more suicides than casualties from the Gulf War last i checked boyeeee

>>135096479
>Muslim Ban
It wasnt a muslim ban. 7 out of 50+ countries and none of the 7 have largest Muslim population. The document he signed for this EO also had no mention of the words. Also, SC allowed it with a fair caveat.

SC is largely Conservative/Republican right now and has a Democrat appointee leavin in 2018-2020. You wont get your wish for another 10 years at least.

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Friendly reminder to all post OP trannies ITT, don't forget to check your mutilated but sack vagina for hair balls.

>>135096615
>People are discussing things im not interested in
>I don't understand that sage isnt a downvote and think its pronounced sayj

>>135097148
Blunt, but to the point.

>>135095473
the other men have a hard time understanding why Christine with her 8" cock gets to shower with the women and share their portable shitters (with 5 others, vs 50+ per men's shitter)
It's bad for unit cohesion.

>>135105682
Anybody got suicide rates pre-op vs post-op?

>>135105981
Well blogged there, Transexual Internet Defence Force.
You can resume being depressed and angry now that you weren't born as the bitch who overmothered you cunt.

>people with incredibly high suicide rates go into a job with an incredibly high suicide rate

what's the worst that could possibly happen?

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>>135106363
No but this sums it up.

The currently popular metaphor is: When you need to eat an elephant, you do it one bite at a time.

If you prefer Sun Tzu (almost certainly paraphrasing an older expression): The journey of 1000 li begins with the first step.

This is step 1. Somewhere down the road is women.

P.S. Think the fag community will try to challenge this in court? They risk getting a SCOTUS ruling that would let the president kick out all of the trash (women, muslims, etc)

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>>135106363
It's actually higher post op.

>>135106643
Forgot link.
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885

>>135106490
why would anyone not want someone like that in the military?

>>135106490
>>135106656
you know what. I've decided. I'm just going to be a gay man. Fuck that noise right there holy shit.

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>>135106656
Nope

>>135095473
Women are mentally ill, but less so.

being trans is about embracing your identity.

being military is about erasing your identity.

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>>135107094
>embracing your identity
No it isn't. Trannies are desperate to escape reality to the point of being delusional.

>>135107094
Traps aint gay tho right?

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This issue is the definition of manufactured outrage. No one gives a fuck about veterans but people are willing to go apeshit for what is essentially a non issue. This is just so stupid.

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>>135097148

>>135104452
There's still the issue of logistics wherein if shit goes down the military cant be wasting time, money and resources transporting hormones and shit to the battlefield or barracks. Plus i havent looked into this but there is probably psychological side effects to not having access to hormones.

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>>135106643
why isn't this operation banned yet?

oh, right

>>135107221
>That image
I think I figured it out.
4chan is partially responsible for this. All these trannies and their supporters fell for the "it's not gay if it's a feminine penis" meme.

>>135096142
fpbp

/thread

>>135095473
trannys are unstable train wrecks that you absolutely don't want watching your back

>>135097148
Indeed, this is the truth. The battlefield is no place for the unstable. Only the most hardened individuals can survive under pressure.

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Please point out the following and spread as able

How would Trans do their daily dilatations on the battle field?
Would there be special doctors on hand to treat their constant infections and hair balls?

They want Trans* awareness? Make more of the public aware of and disgusted by the rotting infected wound so called MtFs have.
Disgust and repulsion are powerful motivators. Wonder how many women enjoy sitting on seats covered with diseased pus and blood from a tranny.

>>135107328
>liberals hate the military
>liberals want more of their pets to be used/die for neocon interests, all because it'll makes bigots angry

none of this makes sense anymore

>>135097439

>spending your entire life treating a massive wound called a vagina

people will say this isnt mental illness

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>>135107710
>be tranny in middle of shitty war zone
>can't get access to girly pills because combat
>start growing beard thicker than other guys
>week later, G.I. Janet now has a full beard, B cup tits, mood swings and a machine gun
>one of xer fellow soldiers accidentally uses wrong pronoun
>they all laugh at xer
>G.I. Janet goes into suicidle rage with grenades and takes out multiple soldiers
>North Korea takes Seoul

>>135096142
>>135069753
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals as a tranny, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, bigot.

>>135097148
Semper Fi

>>135103299
>cis women

What kind of leftist buzzword is this 'cis' thing?

Last i heard, science recognizes 2(two) genders or biological sexes. Male, or female. Man, or woman. Penis, or vagina.

What is this 'cis' thing you talk about?
"Cis woman"?
Is that a new kind of woman that has a grape vine instead of normal reproductive organs?

You people need to stop using drugs, and you need to get real. You are embarrassing yourselves with that mental escapism. Joining into groups to tell each other that science is wrong and your feelings are absolute truth.

The whole world is watching you and nobody is even laughing anymore. Even the ones who manipulated you into this Shit are disgusted by what you've become.

Wake the fuck up.

Lol

>>135095473
>What exactly makes having transgender people in the army a bigger problem than say, cis-Women?

women are manageable crazy. trannys are unmanageable crazy.

>>135095473
Dilating
They need to waste hours a day just shoving a dildo in the gaping, bleeding, puss-acumulating, hair-self-filling, stinking, rotting wounds they call vaginas.
That and the fact that they tend to kill themselves. Well, not really, it's mostly a poorly concealed plea for attention, but it's still 40-50% of them trying to off themselves. And a good number of those succeed. So, along with soldiers with PTSD and other real and/or serious problems, you'd have to pay people to deal with xirs depression and rotting dick carcass.

>>135097936
russia, dummy

Pro/cons? Anyone?
Any trans military related tweet, article etc, should be responded with something about dilation on the front line or some similar shit.
Get a hash like battlefield dilation or something going?
I really want to make use of the power of disgust in the general population. Most average idiots think the fake hole is just a lesser vag, not aware that it is often infected pus covered dying tissue, as they fight the body trying to heal the injury, or other health issues. I'd love to see women mentioning the fear of sitting on a toilet covered in clear infectious pus. It'd be bigger than the usual AIDs/STD fears.

I'd love to see CNN have to mention dilation, or it brought up elsewhere enough to actually make normies look it up.

Consider the outrage when there's news about a single roach or rat found in a food place or manufacturing plant. Revulsion/disgust is a powerful and deep instinct.

>>135109769
>Last i heard, science recognizes 2(two) genders or biological sexes. Male, or female. Man, or woman. Penis, or vagina

Well you were wrong last time you heard.
There are many kinds of gender disorders.

Intersex people are as common as identical twins but nobody talks about it.

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>>135101697
It never was. This is the future we chose.

>>135105847
It's not. That person you refer to is long dead, yet its disfigured shell lives.

>>135109769
Cis means straight and the faggot with the meme flag turned out to be Australian...shocking.

>>135111627
b...but but gender is a social construct, how can someone be TRANSgender when gender doesn't exist?

But chromosomal/hormone disorders are diseases, birth defects. Should there be national discussions and pride events for people born without hands?

Should we celebrate and demand special consideration and deny the negatives of all birth defects or diseases?

Pride parades for Fetal Alcohol syndrome! Unite to support FAS as perfectly healthy and normal, end the pressure on women to avoid drinking while pregnant!

Aren't there groups, movements, institutions, charities or whatnot to find treatments and prevention for most mental disorders or birth defects? But it's taboo to actually treat the trans things as disease.
Let's start marches for cancer acceptance and end society's pressure to seek treatment!

>>135103299
This differs from all the snow flakes with anti antidepressant medication and PTSD how?

You don't become a tranny by going to war

>>135096417
>>135096713
>>135101658
$40mil on viagra. Bitch-ass limp-dicked sissies lower unit cohesion and are cowards. Let's discharge flaccid servicemembers instead of continuing to pay for their playtime pills.

>>135097148
still doesnt warrant a blanket ban
if the tranny can make it, they should be able to

>>135112649

no because they just collectively failed the psychic evaluation. Someone mutilates his dick in civilian conditions, how the fuck do you think that thing is going to respond in combat roles. Obviously hormonal levels are fucked up, as is sense of well being and depression. Other peoples lives depend on it.

>>135095473
Transgender people want the taxpayers to fund the massive medical cost of cutting their dicks/clits off and injecting hormones for growing hair/tits. What's interesting about this issues is that Trump put leftist in a catch-22 with this one. See if they claim that trannies need this medical treatment to be provided to them then that means that being a tranny is a medical issue/mental illness, and not a lifestyle choice. If the leftist fags say that trannies don't need the medical treatment, then taxpayers don't have to fund their bullshit. It's a win-win that was well played, leftist retards just don't get what's going on yet as usual. They can't see beyond their own tiny dicks to see that this whole argument is an ideological trap that they will gladly fall into. And we get to enjoy the salt in the mean time. Best timeline!

>medical shit payed for by government
>likelihood of becoming mentally unstable
>need to shove dildo in an open wound in their crotch or it'll close up

>>135095473
They are a waste of investment.

A broken person who will cost the defence force heaps of money is a waste of time and money. These mentally ill people start destroying themselves prior to joining up. Waste of resources.

>>135111627
>There are many kinds of gender disorders.
>disorders

You said it yourself, liberal.
They are disorders. You are either born with a penis, or a vagina.
Penis = Man
Vagina = Woman

Anything else is a DISORDER.

Is this so hard to understand?

If you cannot understand this basic middle school biology, how can you claim to be fit for military service?


Lol its like talking to kids...

it puts the lotion on the skin
https://youtu.be/VMUKlgCJHU8

>>135107019
>>135111019

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trans is Not a gender. "transitioning" is from one gender to another . but no matter how you slice it you will always be either xx or xy

You kids think dialation is a joke, huh? Well, just so you're aware, my dial goes up to 11. See? Even Buffalo Bill has a sense of humor. Now grow the fuck up or i'll kick your fuckin ass.

>>135096417
source? sounds like a made up stat, leaf

>>135096417
>$8 million for shit that shouldn't be happening anyway

yeah dude, it's only $8 million for the yearly shipment of literal shit from madagascar, what does it matter?

>>135114565
>They are disorders. You are either born with a penis, or a vagina.

This is wrong though.

>If you cannot understand this basic middle school biology
What? Lmao.

>>135108489
I missed this pasta

>>135095473
>Your taxpayer money is literally funding the military to lop of dicks so mentally ill people can be in command of guns, bombs, fighter jets, carriers, and the country's nuclear arsenal
>what's wrong with that

Even if you think you have infinite money do you really want these mentally challenged retards to be in charge of the country's arsenals and state secrets?

>>135095473
The United States Military is not a place to let your freak flag fly. I is a machine build for war, war is not far, it is not humane , it is not kind. It is for death and destruction and nothing else, it should be build as a overwhelming force that will not question its government or its self and do as it is told, it an hammer in which the US government can use to smash the opposition at a moments notice f you want to dress up as a woman, do it during leave on your own time.

>>135095473
Hopefully it's the stepping stone to removing women.

>what's wrong with mentally ill men who choose to dress up and act like girls, not to mention taking testosterone blocking hormones, fighting our wars

Is this an honest question??