How dare the military buy F-35's instead of funding Trans

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>>135013380

>>135013380
>american soldiers
lmao

>>135013380
>How dare the military buy F-35's instead of funding Trans surgery!
It doesn't make any sense, you can't dilate an F-35 can you?

>>135013380
I wondered when Mrz. CIA-mindfuck was going to chime in on this.

>>135014810

Someone please shoop the "youre a fucking white male" clown or some other degenerate in the path of the swing while pence looks on.

Did the government pay for chelsie manning surgery??

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>>135013380

>the most advanced avionics and EC warfare suit ever in a plane
>trannies wanting to lop their dicks off in the army

Yo the F35 can:

fire backwards (actualy in 360 degrees)
take control of armaments from other craft and platforms when it runs out of ammo
almost impossible to shoot down even if detected


What can a tranny do ?

>>135015759
>What can a tranny do ?
Literally be undeployable during their transition
That's it, they literally are nothing but tax funded dead weight

>>135013380
>not wanting more attack helicopters

F-35 is trash.

Planes from 40 years ago run circles around it.

It's engine is not stealthy.

PR China in the 1970s had and still has VHF radar to track these.

>>135015759
It can almost certainly be shot down.

Especially when it's flying lower. You woukd probably just need a 20mm cannon and 30 seconds of it evading it, with the help of machine learning.

Just think though trannies could be used as a cheap biological weapon. If enemy gets any tranny blood on them then they'll need to clean it off fast and hope they don't have any open cuts on their bodies otherwise they're unkowingly pozzed for life.

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>>135016087

Friend, even the dudes at Sukhoi are praising the thing and calling it the second comming of the F16 in the lightweight fighter class.

Its not meant to be a stealth master like the raptor, the plane is a electronics warfare and intelligence powerhouse.

It can literally command air AND ground dominance over a huge area without even firing a single missile.

Even the fucking russians are terrified of it.

>>135013380
Of all the things he has done, using emojis are by far the worst.

>>135013380
how many times do you think he got fucked by his captors when he was a pow?

>>135015759
>What can a tranny do ?
absolutely everything and anything
if you think otherwise, you're a hateful bigot and a racist

>>135016278
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_bomb

>>135016113

Not if you don't have anything to shoot it down with.

The whole point of the plane is to take out AA systems in its area of operation before they even fire a shot.

The plane on its own is nothing more than beefed up F16, its terrying when it works networked with other jets, artilery, destroyers etc.

They can't take womb transplants for trannies;

>http://metro.co.uk/2017/07/02/transgender-women-will-soon-get-womb-transplants-so-they-can-have-babies-6749958/
>http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/07/03/nhs-womb-transplants-transgender/
>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4657830/transgender-women-born-boys-babies-NHS-doctors.html

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hmm

Anyone unfortunate enough to make eye contact with this abomination gets followed, filmed, screeched at and accused of being a spook sent to follow them.

>>135013380
Isn't this fag proof positive about not letting emotional, mentally ill turbo faggots into the military?

>>135013380
Stop giving this mentally sick pervert any more attention. Bradley needs to be left in the dustbin of history where he belongs.

Sage, report, and hide all non-political pointless threads like this.

>>135013380
Sorry this faggot is where I draw the line. I don't care what Assange thinks about this guy, I could care less if he caught a bullet through his window.

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>>135013380
In what reality machines that fly at supersonic speeds and shoot missiles that can level entire building blocks are less valuable that mentally ill faggots?

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>>135013380
Is an actual convicted traitor of the United States really complaining. A traitor who was only released on hopes of gaining political favor.
Ridiculous.

>>135015527
No, your taxes did.

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>>135013380

>>135013380
>a tranny who fucked over the military wonders why the military doesn't want trannies
::thinking::::thinking::::thinking::::thinking::::thinking::::thinking::::thinking::::thinking::::thinking::::thinking::::thinking::::thinking::::thinking::::thinking::::thinking::::thinking::::thinking::::thinking::::thinking::::thinking::::thinking::::thinking::::thinking::::thinking::

>>135013380
Waiting on this thing to self destruct.

>>135013380
OH NO THE MENTALLY ILL TRAITOR IS MAD

>>135013380
Why do fembois like Bradlea Manning and Kurt Kikenwald always appeal to masculinity by using the word coward when it doesn't make sense to do so?

>>135016071
Underrated.

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fuck this it.

Transgender pros:
>more people in the military

F35 pros:
>360 firing capability
>state-of-the-art cloacking technology
>very hard to shoot down
>vertical takeoff which possibly will revolutionize ship design in the navy as a runway of a carrier may not be needed
>able to be a jack-of-all-trades craft that would possibly tackle the cost of other airplane cost maintenance as specialist craft may be phased out

transgender cons:
>well known problems between LGB and T
>hormone change problems
>cost of sex-change surgery being compounded as more and more transsexuals join the military
>unknown whether to have them be with men, women, or to create accommodations specialized for transsexuals (which would cost a fortune)
>well known problems with depression
>well known stigma against transsexuals due to people like Chelsea Manning basically letting every high ranking military officer automatically be suspicious towards transsexuals

F35 cons:
>R@D costs a lot
>it is a jack-of-all-trades but a master-of-none

>>135017013
Could we get this on film? That sure as hell would be entertaining. Even make it look obvious that your a company man if you catch my drift.

>>135013380

He is the reason why today's announcement was made. A traitor's pecker chopping surgery was paid for by the people, and that's wrong. A pecker chopper also betrayed the country, and people unstable like that can't be trusted.

The VTOL F-35s can't carry a meaningful amount of armarment.

And the non VTOL F-35s still are made around a stupid lift fan that they don't even have which brings weight up and scrifices aerodynamics.

>>135013380
What a loser, an embarrassment and shame to the Mannings.

>>135013380
Other thread died so I'm just posting here

>Sky high suicide (attempt) rate among all trannies (pre op and post op)
>In a field of extreme mental strain

>HRT makes you weaker
>In a field of extreme physical strain

>Post op trannies have a large open wound they forcibly keep open
>Often takes upwards of 2 hours every single day of inserting an object to rip open the hole again
>In a field of constant need for readiness and being in environments of limited resources for extended periods of time

>Requires extra medical attention, separate accomodation
>Sensitivity training and additional guidelines
>Negative press for any incident, easy prey for professional victims and media spins

It's absolutely horrible in every sense. Unit cohesion, red tape, individual competence, everything would suffer. The only upside is an infinitesimally larger pool from where to draw recruits from. Considering there are already more people willing to fight than are being taken, this point is completely negligible.

Allowing trannies in the military is objectively bad.

>>135017103
No, he's proof positive that CIA torture techniques turn you into a fruitcake

>>135019999


You forgot about the man tunnel hair balls from the nutsack hair growing back.

>hairballs
>inside a vagina = not a vagina

>>135015759
>fire backwards
First to implement that were the soviets in 85 with the r-73, then the french in the mica in 96, then germany with the iris-t in 2005, THEN the americans with the aim-9x. I think there was a british project that I forgot about between the mica and iris-t that got canceled at one point.
>take control of armaments from other craft
Sounds pretty retarded, I think you mean multiplatform integration of radar data (aka datalink) which, again, was first implemented by the soviets a long ass time ago. Mostly because they couldn't build small radars powerful enough to be put on fighter jets and cas.
>almost impossible to shoot down even if detected
lmao what

>What can a tranny do ?
Skillfully taking it up the butt I guess.

Hah Hah Hah Hah!

This Republican House member Vicky Hartzler is drunk off her ass. $3.7B for trans surgery over 10 years.

Yeah. $370million per year.

They could probably do trans surgery on EVERY member of the military for that price.

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Start the Forced Pimozide Parties

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>>135016920
kek

>>135013380
>transgender person has trans mental breakdown and leaks most classified information in US history
>but yea we should still let mentally ill people in the military lol

>>135015759
Hide a grenade masquerading as a bulge.
Shit all over enemy torturers dicks.
Detach its dong like reptiles as a defense mechanism.

>>135015091
kek

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>>135020400
>sounds pretty retarded

Yeah dude, you sure know way more than the thousands of people working on this project in conjunction with the military and U.S. government.

>>135021456
I certainly know more about weapon systems than the anon I quoted and can discern bullshit from a marketing campaign.

The infinite wisdom of the thousands of people working for the military industrial complex of the united states as well as the us military and us government brought us the m16, m-72, bradley, an infinite amount of aim-9 variants, tried to fase out heavy tanks in favor of the stryker platform, etc.

>>135020400
>which, again, was first implemented by the soviets a long ass time ago
F-106 says hi.

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>>135019180
F35 cons:
>R@D costs a lot
>it is a jack-of-all-trades but a master-of-none

reminds me of the bradly fighting vehicle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXQ2lO3ieBA

>A troop transport that can't carry troops
> a reconnaissance vehicle that's too conspicuous to do reconnaissance
>a quasi-tank that has less armor than a snowblower, but has enough ammo to take out half of D.C.

U.S. army is the master of redundancies until retardation.

>>135016541
It has the aerodynamic capabilities of a boat. The thing is a disaster. Of course the Russians are praising it with a wink and a snicker.

Oh look, another strong twitter statement that has no substance

>>135013380
>bradley manning
>the mentally ill tranny that committed the largest act of treason/espionage in US military history
>has an opinion on why trannies should be in the military

EVERY DAY THIS FUCK SUCKS AIR DISGRACES EVER SERVICE MEMBER IN EVERY BRANCH. HANG THIS FUCK, NOW.

>>135022415
If f-35 is a disaster then you don't wanna know what suckhoi is sharting out...

>>135015759
forgot the part where it scams the taxpayer out of trillions of dollars

ya'll posting in a MIC advertisement thread

>>135022408
The reason gen 4 planes were so good was because they all specialized. You had a true CAS platform, a dog fighter, a long-range missile fighter, and dedicated carrier fighter-bombers. Stealth was reserved for where it actually works: sub-sonic precision bombers.

>>135015091
Allowing trans people who qualify after physical tests in the military is not the same as paying for sexual reassignment surgery (which most trans people don't get anyway)

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>>135022888
>WAAAAAAAAAA WHY DID YOU EXPOSE IRAQ WAR CRIMES BRADLEY
>BRADLY YOURE TRIGGERING MY STATIST BONER
>BRADLY STOP MAKING MY GOVERNMENT LOOK BAD
kys you literal kike-puppet

>>135023436
Oh god...

So is gender dysphoria a real condition or not?

If it is a real mental condition one is born with, then it makes sense for the military to not accept individuals who are not in sound mental and physical condition.
If it's not, then they're just perverts making it up.

The military shouldn't accept any recruits that require daily medication, if you're not healthy enough to go a few weeks in the field without any medications or having to dilate your wound every few hours, you're not fit to serve.

Now if they're pre-op and willing to go without hormones then they can just say they're gay. It's not about their pronouns or sexual preference, it's about not supplying their hormones and surgeries.

>>135013380
We should just refer to this faggots Twitter when anyone asks why trans shouldn't be allowed in the us military.

>>135013380

Bradley Manning is proof why you don't let emotionally unstable trannies serve.

Guy should still be in prison.

>>135015091
The F-35s intakes are self dilating.

>>135014810
Hey! tell trump to stop listening to israelis and approve selling f-35 to us

>>135013380
cute`

>>135023439
So "transgenders" aren't on blue skittles for the rest of their lives to regulate hormones?

SRS is literally the only cost associated with being a mentally ill faggot right?

We can argue economics all day and no matter how you put it, this is fiscally the right decision.

However, more importantly, it is MORALLY the right decision.

So kill yourself you mentally ill faggot.

>>135023731
they'll expose US war crimes? sounds good to me you cuck

>>135023791
Can you even afford them though?

Wow a tranny betrays her country and then says it's a shame we don't have more of them? I think she needs to go dilate her wound.

>>135023667
>exposing US corruption and war crimes is now not a good thing in the eyes of /pol/
Next you'll say people who """threaten""" the national security of Israel are not good despite exposing our overlords

>>135023837
>not realizing you can just put a regulation to no fund that, either
You know how many more important things like government bailouts, war on drugs, retarded defense budget via funding, etc are worse uses of taxpayer dollars right?

>>135023852
yub we can, we just payed 2 mistral carriers from france and many rafaels from france and many mig 35 from Russia

>>135013380
Why is he such a faggot?

>>135013380
Lefties, progs and libtards hate the military so you'd think they'd love it that the trannies can't serve in the evil imperialist military of Amerikkka.

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>>135020400
>the things you have aren't cool because the USSR made a shitty nigger rigged version of it a long time ago

>>135024189
Stupid strawman is stupid

>>135024189
Other things being shitty a use of taxpayer money doesn't make this a good use of taxpayer money.

You are on some serious levels of cognitive dissonance right now my dude.

>>135024225
*bought not payed
+ submarines from germany

>>135020400
>When your ass is glued to Ivan's dick
'ohho yeah!? Well we did it first! It didn't work but we thought of it! I'm lmaoing at your life because you actually made it work! Try thinking of it first next time, he he, cyka."

>>135024267

they do. most don't want to serve anyhow - or if they do, it's so they can get the hormones and surgeries on the tax payer dime.

>>135023569
Why do you think the US is still flying all this shit 40 years later? They'll never be able to get rid of the superhornet, F16, or the warthog. Gen V is the biggest flop for the West since early Gen III, except this time they spend trillions on these turkeys.

Well you libs always said you wanted to cut military spending

>>135024430
It "didn't work" so well that it prompted nato to copy it when they got wind of it after the berlin wall fell.
>>135024343
No, they aren't cool because they're already there and you don't need to buy them twice.

>>135013380
china is the biggest.

>>135013380

>You can either have your mentally deranged buddy get a ass shot so he can pretend to be a women

>or you can get an armored vest and helmet so you don't get fucked by shrapnel when ahmed blows up his wife near you.

Hmmmmmm, which one do I want in a war zone? The guy who has a mental illness according to the CDC, or some gear? Really gets me noggin joggin.

>>135024737
It's not. American politics really like to make up imaginary adversaries.

>>135022408
The Bradley is a fine tank and the men like it. You need to stop getting your information from comedy films.

>>135024380
This is a literal raise of not even 10% of a penny on taxpayer dollars even if they did cover hormones (which I'm not in support of) whereas the others are astronomical. Your priorities and what youre upset about are completely out of line with important issues

>>135024992

>bradley
>tank

pick one

>>135024637
So they copied the technology that didn't work and made it work?
Really fires up my almonds
I wonder how this happened?
Almost like Ivan tech is absolute dog shit but you can't help yourself at this point
Russiaboos are the absolute worst, bottom of the barrel faggots

>>135024767
How about you grab the gear of one of the nigger stationed in an american base in germany?
That of course is implying that there's a shortage of us military equipment or willingness to increase funding to the military industrial complex.

>>135024637
>No, they aren't cool because they're already there and you don't need to buy them twice.
So we should just use the old ass and outdated jets? You stupid or something? We took all those excellent pieces of tech and put them all into 1 plane.

>>135013380
He should have stayed in jail for the rest of his pathetic life.

>>135021456
You dumb faggot, the ones building these shit weapons are just
stealing all your money. You think it costs 500 billion dollars to turn out crappy platforms?

>>135025009
>Your priorities and what youre upset about are completely out of line with important issues
I'm not upset though, you are, the constant asinine non sequiturs and inability to refute the central premise of my argument is proof enough that you're being cognitively dissonant, and therefor, completely and undeniably butthurt in the highest magnitude.

>>135013380
This faggot loves emojis so much it makes me want to hang myself tbqh

Lock him up again.

>>135013380
I'll take a aircraft over a chick with a stick any day of the year.

>>135024189
We are talking about military efficiency. It is a serious organization that has no time for your gay bullshit. It shouldn't have to accommodate anything. It needs to be lean and lethal, you fucking moron.

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>>135020953
>Detach its dong like reptiles as a defense mechanism.
This killed me. Underrated.

>>135015759
>What can a tranny do ?

can shoot a dozen hairballs at the enemy in a single queef

>>135013380
It just wants attention and likely has no ida wtf it's even saying.

>>135025344
Did you just assume the aicrafts gender???

>>135024522
Why wouldn't they still be using them? They may be "adequate" for their roles now but they're all relics of the cold war with aging airframes. Eventually the buff, falcon, a-10 and every other again aircraft in inventory will need to be replaced. Gen 5 is the next logical step and all major powers capable of pursing it are doing so as we speak.

>>135025308
I agreed with the central premise of your argument, saying that I don't believe tranny medical costs should be covered by the military. you are the one actually using nonsequiturs here, if you even knew what the term meant.

>>135024992

The Bradley is an LAV that wishes it was a tank. It is the "king of manlets" of tanks. They will never learn.

>>135013380
Why the fuck would the military be paying for elective surgery?
Even in liberal utopia holland my employer wouldn't pay for that.

Spending money on weapons for war is the fucking opposite of cowardice does Chelsea even know what cowardice means?

>>135025576
>you are the one actually using nonsequiturs here, if you even knew what the term meant
It would be like if I said "this is a poor decision" and you said "BUT THESE POOR DECISIONS ARE SLIGHTLY BIGGER"

>>135025165
>ivan tech is absolute dog shit
>russia is the biggest threat to the world and we need to feed more dolla to lockheed martin
You have to pick one.

>>135013380
Military fucked with that kids head to turn him into a fucking tranny over a fucking video he leaned about some Shit head news reporter. Hmmmmm

>>135025128
Do you really want to be this autistic, faggot? Is that really who you want to be?

>>135013380
what is wrong with the F-35? honest question

>>135025405
>It shouldn't have to accommodate anything. It needs to be lean and lethal, you fucking moron.
There are rigorous tests one has to pass to join active duty, not to mention all the POG positions which don't even require physical fitness aptitude tests. If only you knew the types of mental illness they do let in other than "gender dysphoria", you might have a better position

>>135025165
What do you mean by "didn't work"? The USSR had more working gen V features in their latest experimental fighters than the US did. They invented thrust-vectoring (there's is 3-D instead of 2-D like the F22).

>>135025009

It's still an expense that is a detriment to our military and taxpayer dollar. And it has to go back.

>>135020400
I love how you can instantly recognize a non-science, non-engineer almost immediately. Go finish your social "science" essay on military procurement, you know nothing future barista.

>>135025882
>>135024992
Technically it's an ifv although it had no issues trashing pidorashka tanks in iraq.

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trannies should be able to relate to the F35

>>135025789
Remember the part of that where I said that was a hypothetical and pointed out your obvious narrowsighted claims towards usage of taper money, in which your buttmad defensive response was indicative I was spot on about?

>f-35 meme

they should have kept this guy locked up, they scrambled his brain

Now the real question is if we have UFOs from alium tech why are we finding shitty f35 jets

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Why are we paying for trans ppl to get hormone shots with medicare at 1200$+ a week when they wont die without them?

When will he sign an exec order cancelling this retarded policy???

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>>135025943
Nothing

>>135026131
Sorry, admittedly I skim posts and just assume the person I'm responding to is discussing reality not their delusions.

>>135025660
The Bradley is a tracked vehicle that is heavier and better armed than early war tanks like the Panzer I and carries troops like a Merkava.

You're picking at strings if you want to go this way. It's a fucking tank.

>>135025557
They've taken longer to replace than any other generation despite gen V being the biggest money sink in the history of weapons development. If that doesn't scream "corruption" to you then you're fucking bluepilled.

>>135026272
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXQ2lO3ieBA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDYpRhoZqBY

>>135022415

a boat that can blow anything out of the sky before it even reaches a dogfighting situation.

Also, once the former pilots from F16s got new training for it, they literally did circles arround other F16s in dogfights

>>135025943
It's a bad (AWESOME) mutha fuckin piece of military equipment... The problem with it is they've spent half of all money ever created on it.

>>135025943
It's a stupid idea with a stupid implementation.
Just imagine:
> we're going to replace every single car, from luxury sedan to tow truck with cars based on a single frame
> The cost savings on parts will be amazing
> They will all need a flat bed so you can attach a crane in case you want to use it as a tow truck though
Absolutely retarded.
Then, when people complain, you just say "self driving cars will take care of that problem"

>>135026000
I'm not arguing they should bebcovered, that was hypothetical to make a point to this dumb Aussie. I don't think any of those expenses should be covered.

>>135024189

faggots getting their junk mangled not only costs money, but time and training wasted while they sit at home picking shit out of their inverted penis. you're lucky to have a place to shit in the field. you're definitely not going to have time for your fake vagina upkeep.

fucking mentally deranged faggots.

>>135026272

>better armed than panzer 1

That'd be impressive if this was 100 years ago

>>135013380
and a f-35 is still more useful than trannies.

>>135025943
Just another scam from the military industrial complex to suck more money out of taxpayers. If you want more planes build more f-22.
>>135026031
>if you don't shill for lockheed you're a barista

>>135026235
>understanding economics is a delusion
Good meme

>>135025959
The military won't accommodate shit UNLESS you're already in. Get asthma on duty? Here's a profile. Hurt your knee? Here's a profile. Have pre-existing asthma? Fuck off, we're full.

>>135015759
Damn good point. And now that trannies lost their cock they cant even fire in 360 degrees anymore. Fckin waste

>>135025959
You aren't even pretending to be retarded, are you? You can't deploy a soldier that has to dilate their ona hole and take pills daily, or suffer crippling medical issues.

Post operative transgendered people are not medically viable. They are as good as physically disabled. It is a chronic lifetime condition. Get it through your head, man.

>>135013380

Maybe if the most famous tranny in the military wasn't a psychotic traitor that was pardoned by Obama at the 11th hour we'd be more sympathetic.

>>135013380
Didn't that faggot betray the military? Why is it talking about what should happen in the military?

>>135013380
Did he have the mutilation procedure?

>>135013380
But Bradley, we haven't invested trillions of dollars on traps. Go home Bradley, you're off your SRS

>>135026412

they should have solely focused on creating the common flight and weapons interfaces among the various aircraft with specific roles. let them be able to fight together, but as you said, one common airframe is retarded.

>>135013380
>Solitary confinement really fucked this dude up aye.

for all you know becoming trans wasn't his idea and he underwent the change under orders

I think anybody who can do the job should be able to serve but the military isn't the place for making yourself special or different from the rest, save that for your retirement and do your job

>>135013380

rich coming from a traitor

People seem to be forgetting what the purpose of the military is.
It's a machine for fighting, whether it be defensive or offensive, it's for dominating the battlefield. Anything that hinders its efficiency does not belong. They don't even allow flat footed people in, trannies don't belong.

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>>135022408
METAL BOXES

>>135025467
kek

>>135026412
Except all of the planes the f-35 is replacing are the equivalent of mid sized sedans. It's not like it's replacing bombers.

>>135026542
Bradleys have killed their fair share of MBTs, bro. Quit being a sperg. I know that you are better than this.

>>135019999
checked

completely reasonable

>>135026639
>You aren't even pretending to be retarded, are you? You can't deploy a soldier that has to dilate their ona hole and take pills daily, or suffer crippling medical issues
Do you not realize there are female to male trans people too? And that mtf trans who get surgery are a huge minority that would never consider enlisting anyway?

And this is just active duty meathead positions we are talking here not all of the passive ones which encompass the majority of military roles

>>135015759
>What can a tranny do?
Change from a giant evil robot into a Walther P38.

>>135026593
Are you so sure they cant fire in 360 degrees? that one reddit meme that gets passed around mentioned how that tranny kept pissing all over its own ass :^)

>>135023837
I think anybody who can do the job should be able to serve but agree that I am having a hard time imagining a trans person who is fit enough to pass basic not to mention the fact that elective surgery should be out of pocket only

>>135013380
I'd like to see a trams take on 10 Russian fighters at once

>>135026774
>the military isn't the place for making yourself special or different from the rest

This. Conformity is the point in the armed forces if you want to find yourself go to college lol.

>>135015091
check your cisfighter privilege. F-35s are fighter/bomberfluid.

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inb4 all the mentally ill poorfags try to enlist to get FREE surgery, avoiding infantry at all costs. This will happen. I guarantee it.
They'll probably try to get stationed in Japan too. Fucking dirtbag degenerates.

>>135013380
Mental Illnes the post.

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>>135013380
its only a matter of time for the first F-35 to identify as a attack helicopter

>>135023791
why tho. u got some russian planes undisclosed to the general public

>>135026752
This. The idea of reusing parts is fine, but the idea of shoehorning everything into one frame is so stupid.
I don't understand how they even came up with it.
Just use the same screws and the same computer system.
With modern highly automated systems that's where a large part of your costs in maintenance will be anyway.

>>135026928
>And this is just active duty meathead positions we are talking here

traditionally the guys who get fucked in the ass and wear skirts in private get promoted quickly

>>135026388
Yank-lover

>>135015759
>What can a tranny do ?

be less of a disaster than the F-35

>>135016113
>30s

By that time, any jet would be far enough to not even matter anymore.

If flying in a straight line, that would be over 16km for the f-35. At this distance, any non-guided projectile is useless

>>135025981
Do you even know what gen 5 means?

>>135026369
Because it is 21st century and you can't just shart out one million corsair's or sturmoviks anymore. If it were such a meme then Russia and China wouldn't be pursuing it as aggressively either.

>>135013380
So my company buys new welding equipment but we're stuck with old sofa machines? The fuck?

>>135026897

I've seen videos of achmeds blowing up much more modern tanks than the panzer 1 by stuffing packages of semtex and goat semen down the barrels between shots. The bradley kills tanks with its TOW missiles, not an accomplishment in design considering less embarrassing vehicles have the same gear.

>>135023614
I believe it works the same way with adhd. You have to be medication free for at least a year and they can still deny you. I really don't get why Trans get special treatment

>>135013380
>How dare the military buy F-35's instead of funding Trans surgery!
The F-35 is a shitty plane that is worthless. US should buy J20s from China. Better price and better plane.

If I had to make the decision between spending 50mio$ on tranny surgeries for the next 5-10 years and spending 1tn$ on the F-35 which is a worthless plane and can be outmaneuvered by the SU27 a 40 year old Russian plane.

>>135026894
What exactly is it replacing?
I've never seen anyone be really clear about that.
It's not bombers, since it doesn't have the carrying capacity.
It's not fighters, since it's not as agile.
It's not ground support since it can't fly slow enough.
Is it replacing spy planes?
Or maybe it's intended for small precision strikes?

>>135013380
Peyton and Eli shouldn't have bullied their brother so much.

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>>135027074

>>135026928
Regardless of anything, these people are mentally ill and should be barred from serving and thrown out. Corporal Klinger would flip the fuck out if he was in today's army.

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Gripen is better though. Overall.

>>135026948
>Transformers
>Trans


HOLY FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

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So are the fags chimping out yet about this?

>>135027097
This is the real reason homosexuality was banned by the military in the first place. Commander makes a pass at you and you refuse? You get demoted and sent to a foxhole in the desert.

>>135027333
>If I had to make the decision between spending 50mio$ on tranny surgeries for the next 5-10 years and spending 1tn$ on the F-35 which is a worthless plane and can be outmaneuvered by the SU27 a 40 year old Russian plane.

i'd choose neither.

>>135015759
>the most advanced avionics ever is utter shit
what went wrong?

>>135027333
>US should buy J20s from China. Better price and better plane.
Remove your proxy, leaf.

>>135015921
You think a tranny is deployable when they're dilating?

>>135027602

so that fucking faggot is a furry too? how much faggotry does one faggot need?

>>135027602
perfectly normal.
check your privilege cis white scum

>>135027228
It's still a tank, my dude. You are also contradicting yourself. The Bradley was designed to use the TOW for AT, thus... It is a victory of design.

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>>135015759
>fly backwards

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>>135027549

>>135027744
>>135027731
stop being bigoted

>>135013380
Yes how dare the military invest on high tech weaponry instead of funding trannies transition surgeries.
This faggot is a living embodiment why his mentally ill ilk shouldn't be allowed in the armed forces.

>>135027785
*fire backwards

>>135027602
>People consider this man a hero

>>135027196
Thrust-vectoring is considered a gen-v feature, the USSR had it back in the 80s.

>21st century

Russia and China are neck and neck with the US nowadays and they spend 1/10 the money.

F-35 wins in the USA.
Suicidal trannies win in Canada.

>>135027988
woman*

>>135027785
fucking leaf can't even read

>>135027528
Doesn't matter how good the fighter is when the pilot is an illiterate Somali

>>135013380
>They're so few they aren't important.
wow so intolerant.

>>135013380

>paying for sexual reassignment surgery for mentally ill crossdressers is the same as trying to perfect a next gen fighter jet

I'm missing the logic here.

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>>135027528
> F-35 vs. Gripen
Spam filter makes it so that I can't post the link but google

>Saab JAS 39 Gripen vs F-35

and click on the first link. Interesting analysis.

>>135027766
A little kid can shoot a TOW dude. Put one on a Toyota 4X4 and you basically have a Bradley.

>>135028019
Not an argument butthurt 52%.

>>135028268
Come talk to me when you have a functioning government, Ahmed

>>135013380
Did you catch that folks?

Cowardice mean not just doing whatever a mentally ill person tells you to do. It's bravery to just roll over and do whatever they say.

Standards are racist because the wrong color (i.e. white) keeps rising to the top when they are used.

White self haters still won't move away from majority white parts of the country, but they will tell you all about how evil and unforgivable white people are. They will still cry to white cops for help when their feelings didn't stop the nigger from mugging them. They will still blame white people being mean to black people, for the man that just attacked them.

White males can do no right and everyone can do no wrong, see?

That is Liberalism in a nutshell. The sooner white males stop helping white liberals, Jews and other non whites, the sooner all this bullshit gets fixed.

>>135013380
I told you all to keep this faggot locked

>>135028016
>fucking leaf can't even read
his native language is Mandarin.

>>135027921
>>135028016
肏你妈的屄

>>135013380
He's just triggered that the government won't pay anymore money to accommodate it's mental illness

I think we need a good war against another civilised country. Wars always push the technology to new heights.

The best thing would probebly a war on mars between colonizing forces.

>>135027528
It has absolutely garbage range and is by all rights a light fighter. It's okay, comparable to an F-16 and it's cheap... but nothing to write home about.

>>135027078
we like to variety our weapons sources + it isnt fair to sell it for israelis and refuse to sell it for us

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>>135016786
What the hell?

>>135028514
You don't have a functioning gov either Tyrone. You have been fully controlled by the kikes for decades. And that includes your god emperor.

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Fucking glorious, cheers to making america straight again!

>>135027785
A FUCKING LEAF

>>135027990
Uhh no it's not, otherwise harrier would be in the same boat.

>Russia and China are neck and neck with the US nowadays
According to??

>>135022408
I did work on a Detroit 6V53T - Incredible piece of engineering

>>135021951
fact: the Bradley killed more tanks in Iraq than all m1 tanks did.

>>135028225
Oh sweetie, but it's still a tank!

>>135013380
Somebody post Ben Shapiro BTFOing this fag.

>>135027766
>a Bradley is a tank
No it's not
t.Cav Scout
>>135028225
>Put one on a Toyota 4X4 and you basically have a Bradley
That's not how it works

>>135028777
Nice trips. Now go back to studying how to turn people gay with pheromones >>135016786 and leave war fighting to the big boys

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Is he right /pol/?

>>135028687
You clearly don't know what you're talking about. It's true that F-35 wins air to ground, but Gripen dominates when it comes to air to air and logistics. It is also a lot cheaper. The range is good enough by for all functions. Gripen wins even if you don't consider costs.

>>135027528
I wish we got the fucking Gripen instead of the overpriced garbage called F-35

>>135029062
#StillATank

>>135023436
Now listen here maggot, the f-16 and f-15 could both do multirole stuff and many other 4th gen planes could too

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>>135029161
>>135028777
Trips of truth and still so butthurt kek. Leave the discussions to people that know something about it. Do you have an MS in aerospace engineering? Go back to your high school studies.

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>>135015759

>>135016541
Oh hey lockheed martin, didnt know you guys spent funds shilling on pol.

>>135029210
Not with ps05.

>>135029210
>F-35 wins air to ground
Narrowly btw.

>>135016541
What's funny is just like f-16, it gets unfairly shit on alot.

>>135029210
Clearly you have no fucking idea what you are talking about. It is quite literally a light fighter... Just like the F-16 and many other aircraft.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_fighter

>>135013380
>the military SERIOUSLY pays for war machines instead of cutting off the penises of their own soldiers!? How much more impractical and illogical could you be?

>>135029831
Where is the canadian world renowned fighter jet?
Oh....

>>135029831
Do you don't know what you're talking about. Compare the functions and get back to me. Look at >>135028214 for a start. And again that's before costs. Gripen is a great multirole fighter aircraft.

>>135029615
PS-05/A is start of the art.

>>135024407
I'm actually curious Anon what other incomes does Egypt have other than the suez canal? I'm guessing it's a mixture of that and oil mainly but I'd like to hear from someone who lives in the country

Once upon a time I saw the tranny as a hero of sorts for the leaks. Now I realize he's an attention-whoring joke and deserves to be gassed.

>>135022415
>t. weapons expert larper

you don't know shit faggot

deal with it Maning

It's very sad the sick torture they put him through.

>I'm totally a girl everyone :DD!!

Who cares what Bradley thinks

>>135027785

>fly backwards
>fire backwards

I made the same mistake at first also!!!
we are like mistake-cousins or some shit now

>>135030366
the main ones are
1-Suez canal
2-Tourism (when it is in a good shape)
3-media producing, our media dominating all the ME
4-Egyptians who work abroad especially in Gulf countries
5-soon will be natural gas
but many of last weapons deals for Egyptian army funded by UAE and Saudi Arabia, because they want real army in their side in case of war with Iran, so in their interest modernizing the Egyptian army

>>135029453
Of course they CAN, just like the warthog CAN shoot at a transport plane or helicopter even though it's a CAS platform. F16 and F15 wouldn't be doing multi-role shit against a competent Air Force. F35 sucks because it's one airframe designed to do everything.

>>135028845
Harrier has VTOL vectoring, it couldn't vector thrust during flight maneuvers.

The biggest problem with the F35 is that they wasted so much money on that when they could have been building Gundams.

>>135030291
It's a start alright.

>>135030947
side note our oil producing isnt even enough for our market we import oil

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>>135013380
Yes, how dare they fund this trans plane that identifies as a helicopter.

>>135030457
Great argument LockShill, how many more trillions do you need before the engine works?

So are we finally making it official (it already was), that transgender is a mental health problem? Finally.

>>135013380
I don't see how trans-fags are more effective at dropping quick deployable carpet bombing than an f-35...

>>135024189
>we waste money on some other stuff, so waste money on my disorder, too
Fuck you, faggot.

>>135030251
>>135030291
Your plane kinda sucks, stop. If you want nationalist pride there's the cv9040.

>>135027628
If I had to choose between spending 5 mins with a tranny or 1 tril on f-35, I would go to the nearest atm

>first they ban transfat and now transwoman

What’s next famalam?

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>>135027528
Gripen is a pile of nigger shit in comparison to the based MiG-31 Firefox
>pic related

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The F-35 is over budget, but the idea that it's a failure is such a massive fucking lie cooked up by liberal faggots. Pic related

>>135031047
>F16 and F15 wouldn't be doing multi-role shit against a competent Air Force
Lol what does that even mean? F-16 is wholly multirole aircraft as is f-18 super hornet.

>Harrier has VTOL vectoring
Still a form of thrust vectoring. Harrier wasn't even the only example either, the Americans had a f-15 variant with it in the 80s. This is all irrelevant anyways since thrust vectoring is not important I'm determining if a plane is 5th generation or not.

>>135030947
Is it true that the Egyptian army is an almost all encompassing force? Al-Sisi is the former head of the military and don't they own civilian factories making things like house hold appliances?

>>135032073
Important in determining*

>>135031622
Not an argument.

>>135031858
Kek'd, I liked that movie.

>>135032167
Took me a minute, 10/10

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>>135031858

>>135013380
Should have identified yourself as a F-35 then.

>>135013380

Rich coming from him, he was very unhappy in the military, even suicidal, and got bullied for his girlyness. Certainly was part of the reason why he did the leak. So why does he come to the conclusion that other trans people would be happier in the military?

>>135032249
Egyptian military make roads and bridges and have factories produce house hold appliances and even sometimes make major housing projects and even the have food factories to interfere when prices get way high so produce cheap food for the poor and in the same time produce many of his weapons and fight ISIS in north Sinai and prevent them to advance from the Libyan border and modernizing their bases
2 days ago they opened the largest military base in the middle east and Africa
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2017/07/22/Egyptian-President-opens-biggest-military-base-in-the-Middle-East-and-Africa.html

>>135015759
>What can a tranny do ?

Pilot an F-35

>>135016753
> I Bet it cant have suicide rate less than 50% after transition.

I mean they solve the problem themselves, so i say let them tranny out all they want.

>>135033560

yeah if hairballs from their fake vaginas dont clog up instruments :^)

>>135013380
>>>135013380
>
>>the most advanced avionics and EC warfare suit ever in a plane
>>trannies wanting to lop their dicks off in the army
>
>Yo the F35 can:
>
>fire backwards (actualy in 360 degrees)
>take control of armaments from other craft and platforms when it runs out of ammo
>almost impossible to shoot down even if detected
>
>
>What can a tranny do ?
Pop a Viagra and titfuck itself?

>>135030947
>media producing, our media dominating all the ME
I have heard this too. Is it true your slang is also considered cool in mena? Like "moza" or whatever?

>>135033743
Better make sure females can't pilot either, a baby could fly out of their vagina at any second

>>135018767
It wont live to see the 2020 re-election.
Those things usually have a 70%+ failure rate and self destruct

>>135033801
>"Moza"
KEK, moza= hot girl in the Egyptian xD
it considered cool and funny because big part of our popular movies are comedy movies and it is almost understable in all of the ME

>>135027988
At one point, so did I. Now I wish he would have died in Cuba.

>>135013380
Didn't get 400 years or whatever for being a traitor?

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>>135019835
Archie and peyton are devistated. Eli is aroused

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>>135013380

I was angry for a second, but then remembered he was psychologically tortured for years and he helped make Wikileaks a household name.

This faggot gets a pass.

>>135033405
Jesus christ

BASED Mike Pence

>>135016753
>Wah! Your mean
Grow a fucking pair but you probably already cut them off so you're fucked

>>135025196
lol okay bud

>>135034063
Lol that's funny, I also heard it can mean banana or something of sort. So why did Egyptian media dominate the ME? Are there just alot of film schools there?

>>135034480
since they lost the war against Israel, they Egyptian army determined to get stronger and get ready for any attack , so they empowered them selves in every aspect

>>135035118
mozaa= banana
mozza= hot girl
well we were always the culture centre of the region and big population = more talents , this the reasons I guess

>>135035104
Enjoy getting financially raped by the kikes who run Lockheed

>>135013380
Serious question, did manning get otto warmbier'd by the government or something?

>>135023731
You mean proof why they should serve.

>>135033405

How does it feel knowing that if you weren't cucked by Arabs 1400 years ago your country might resemble one worth living in?

>>135036911
I dislike most of arabs, but Egypt power started to fell before them, they contributed in making Egypt worse but they arent the only reason, it is just life cycle of civilisations, we had 3000 years of strong kingdom and civilisation maybe the longest civilisation in the history, but this is life, and from what I see Egypt is starting to pick up again slowly but with steady steps

>>135023439
>if a neo-vagina is not dilated regularly, it will heal over

*sips covfefe*

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>>135028214

>Be Gripen
>Ready to kill burger plane
>get smoked by AA guided by burger plane before visual range

Dat Grippen

>>135027498
Obama got a job?

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>>135037307

If the Romans didn't collapse you would be a Coptic country and wouldn't have Salafi cavemen blowing up churches and telling everyone the pyramids need to be covered in wax.

You were one of the earliest cradles of civilisation bro.

You have my deepest condolences.

>>135013380
>Decide to take gargoyle up on challenge
>First test: payload. See if a tranny can carry several thousand pounds of fuel
>Go for statistical rigor until running out of trannys

Got more trannys?

>Test 2: Can you accelerate a tranny to take off speed with a catapult without landing gear failure?

>>135037747
You don't know what you're talking about burger. Gripen has the advantage beyond visual range and Gripen has the speed advantage over F-35 + the missiles have a larger no escape zone. Within visual range F-35 will be dead meat since it's big advantage, i.e. stealth, is gone. F-35 only has first look, first kill but that's not enough. In most encounters F-35 be lose.