>Australia: mostly Anglo >New Zealand: mostly Anglo >Canada:

>>134910542
Portuguese started to have a vast colonial empire when other countries wanted to have a piece of cake. They're a nation of traders and explorers, pioneers of the sea.

>>134910542
>Why was it only Anglos for the most part who spread out and created new countries without mixing with everyone they came across?
Because England had a demographic growth when France was stagnating, we couldn't populate new France which is why we were fine with leaving it to England.

>>134911180
what about africa?

>>134911377
What about africa ?

>>134910697
But why didn't they settle? Why did they mix?
>>134911180
Why was French demographics declining? Why was the only French settlement in Quebec?

>>134911180
I saw some French guy on /int/ saying France was simply too nice of a place to live, so people didn't want to go to the colonies, but the UK was an awful place to live so everyone went to the colonies

I wonder if he really believed that

>>134911531
Portugal is a tiny nation and for hundreds of years barely exceeded the one million inhabitants mark. It was much easier to just let their sailors and soldiers fuck everything with a vagina and then make that halfbred caste rule in the name of Portugal.

>>134911531
>Why was French demographics declining?
They weren't declining, we just had our demographic revolution earlier than the UK. Keep in mind that in the middle ages french pop was 20M~ while England had only 2 or 3 millions, they had a massive growth.
>Why was the only French settlement in Quebec?
Because the king helped it (look for "Filles du roi" (king's daughters) ), and because we did a lot of trading with natives there. Also prisoners could go live there to settle it instead of going to jail.
>>134911601
T b h it's also true to some degrees. France was a vast, fertile country. Back then 80% of the population was made of peasants, as long as they had a place to live and fields to farm, they didn't have much reason to leave.

>>134911601
Uk was most wealthy European country during the Victorian era yet still hundreds of thousands of British citizens moved to colonies
>>134911847
They could have made some little settlements though, some small islands were settled by 10-20 Anglo families, why didn't Portuguese do this? Even Francis drake tried to make some Anglo colonies in America before empire

>>134910542
What was the colony of Austria?

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>>134910542
daily reminder

>>134912053
>while England had only 2 or 3 millions
most historians agree that the post-plague population of England in the 14th century was around 5-7 million and France around 18-20, but the latter one declined and didn't reach the number again until the early modern period.

>>134912361
They didn't see any advantages in doing it except for Brazil. Small settlements couldn't do shit against armies of aboriginals, especially blacks and Indians. It was better for them to concentrade on spice trade and maximizing profits.

>>134912529
They attempted to colonize the Nicobar Islands and also held a concession in Tianjin.

>>134912053
Why was the French population so much bigger Earlier? If French settled elsewhere there would have been an even bigger French population because settlers bred faster. Surely the French could have made just one permanent settlement in Africa?

>>134912741
>Why was the French population so much bigger Earlier?
It's a very fertile country and has always been pretty populated until the French were the first to use contraception in such a widespread way.

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>thousand years of oppression, slavery and 2nd class citizenship
>history destroyed by the invaders
>sup mongol sub-human savage
>get back to work mongol savage I need my tar
>shit I'm scared of russia
>whoops you can take them scary russia
>what is autonomy
>what is own currency
>what is own language
>1917 it's time get back what is ours
>1918 get fucked commie fucks
>1939 fucking commies again, no more oppression, get fucked commies fucks
>2017 hey there white Finn, remember the colonialism, remember the white guilt, remember the slave ship tar, remember you were born to serve the bättre folk.

>tfw you're in one of those countries with no colonies or greatness overall
Life is suffering.

>>134912704
When I say Anglo I pretty much mean all British isles, so Anglo-Celtic is probably more accurate
>>134912709
Fair enough but what advanatge did Anglos have during the early American settlements? Jamestown was only a few thousands people and didn't mix with the hundreds of thousands of native Americans.

>>134913039
Ok France has good excuses then, why didn't Germans spread out and make mass settlements other than American mid west?
>>134913100
Finland was controlled by Sweden and Russia so independence was more important than spreading out I suppose
>>134913211
Similar to above, balkans had ottomans and Austria-Hungary to worry about, hard to compete when sorrounded by that, Western Europe has some answering to do though

>>134913240
Settling other would relieved the overpopulated mainland and provided highly needed food and other ressources, as the UK was highly dependent on imports from the mainland. They were also the first ones to believe that turning the wide wastelands habitable for the own population could be helpful for them. That kind of thinking and the already evolving society in 16th century England is one of the biggest reasons why the industrial revolution happened there specifically.

>>134910542
I know it wasn't the modern Greece, but Greeks were colonizing the Mediterranean for a long time

>>134913581
Germany wasn't an organized country until the 19th century. They did colonize, but in Eastern Europe where they turned vacant lands into fields and meadows and made the small Slavic population assimilate into them. That's also why there have been Germans in Hungary, Romania, Russia, Ukraine for centuries.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostsiedlung

>>134912709
The concession was Austro-Hungarian.

>>134913638
Ok, they still could have mixed though, could have taken native women like Spanish and Portuguese did? What made them refuse to mix?
>>134913715
Talking about modern settlements, of course there was big expansions in the classical era
>>134913941
They conquered some lowly populated African states, but why didn't they settle any of them? Someone above was argueing that Anglos dominated because they prospered later than France but it seems Germany prospered even later than UK

>>134910542
That's not accurate. Latvia had colonies.

>>134914828
>Ok, they still could have mixed though, could have taken native women like Spanish and Portuguese did? What made them refuse to mix?
They were pretty hostile towards each other. It did happen, but to a very small degree at first, and after that it were the natives that assimilated. It's much more visible in Central and South America because the Indio population was really, really big there compared to the amount of European settlers.

>They conquered some lowly populated African states, but why didn't they settle any of them?
They just bought them in the late 19th century because muh prestige. They settled a bit but already lost them not even 40 years later after WWI.

>Someone above was argueing that Anglos dominated because they prospered later than France but it seems Germany prospered even later than UK
Germany was a wealthy region for the most part until the population explosion in the 19th century. The country wasn't unified until late and they never wanted colonies until they saw the political weight those could bring. Also America was by then much better suited for German settlers than tropical Tanganyika or arid Namibia.

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>>134910542

Circunstancial historical facts. Different countries had different objectives for their colonies. The portuguese never wanted to create simulacros of their own country, their objective was to get in, grab it, and get out. Eventually the guys had babies with the local woman (67% mitocondrial dna is NON-european and 88% of Y IS european), and then a genetic and cultural mixed population was created by accident, there was never a plan to stay or to create a country.

>>134910542
Just one more D&C of europeans?

>Meanwhile Spanish and Portuguese mixed with everyone they came across

Portugal has 1 million population when we discovered and conquered half of the world. It would be impossible for us to mass colonize entire countries with our own euro stock.

>>134915939
*had 1 milliion...

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>we had more colonies than shitaly

Actual numbers for South Africa are: 40% Anglo, 60% Dutch, 90% niggers.

>>134910542
Greece BTFO by Norway...

lmao hahahahahahahahahahah

>>134915402
Ok, all what you say makes sense, thanks. I still think there must be at least one European country that could have made mass settlements outside of Europe
>>134915658
Wow, Portuguese had no self control, they must have rape every women they saw.

>>134910542
because iberians are already a mixed race, the average iberian is 50% pure iberian. What is there to preserve?

>>134915939
Yea but Portuguese could have made at least one mass settlement somewhere
>>134916133
I'm talking about European settlers here really, most blacks were imported to South Africa or moved recently after apartheid

>>134916312
It's a bit misleading though.
These Norwegian "colonies" were like 500 years BEFORE all these other european countries had a single one.

>>134910542
USA is Anglo, we are just anglos that might have a few ancestors named hans

>>134916598
There are just as many German-Americans as Brit-Americans.
Americans thinking they are "anglo" is just based on language. Much of you culture is actually German or even Scandinavian.

>>134916350
Italy pushed it a lot during the Mussolini years, sending hundreds of thousands of Italians to Libya and Eritrea. Portugal also send almost a tenth of it's population to Africa between 1945 and 1974. It's just pure luck and lack of timing that didn't make big scale settlement a thing for most nations, along with the fact that Anglos did have the best countries for White settlement.

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>>134910542
Imagine if all of the Americas were a white safe haven with two oceans separating it.. Instead we have the mexican border.

>>134916764
But I dont speak any German. I did go to a lutheran church(courtesy of my german ancestors) as a kid though

>>134914828
>Ok, they still could have mixed though, could have taken native women like Spanish and Portuguese did? What made them refuse to mix?

Only male portuguese came to Brazil, so they bred with local or african woman. They were here for business, not to create a colony.

>>134913240
Our colonies were much more densely populated by natives.

We started to colonize right after we discovered, so sickness did not yet decimated them. Anglos started to colonize almost 100 years after, that is to say, after they were decimated.

>>134916535
>1 million population
> do a mass settlement

how?
did you look at the size of our empire?

>>134916764
Its all a moot point anyways. Brits and Germans alike are both part of the /masterrace/

>>134916764
I acknowledged that lots of Americans are German, just wondering why they didn't create their own colonies elsewhere in the world with German majority and German language
>>134916802
Yeah, why didn't they stay in Africa after ww2 instead of returning to Italy? Could have made a big Italian settlement in Africa, would be cool.
>>134916869
Blame the Spanish for no set control
>>134916923
Original Jamestown settlers were al male, but rather than mixing with natives they waited years to import women from the same country as them

>>134917448
As I said, Jamestown only had a few thousand but they refused to mix, couldn't Portugal do just one settlement like this somewhere?
>>134917534
Shame they spend more time hating each other than wanting to succeed together

>>134916312

Also the Greek colony in question is better than any colony the Norwegians ever got.

Except for the USA, India, Mexico and Australia, there are few colonies that can match Turkey.

>>134917572
Decolonization was a big thing and Italy's economy was booming at the time.

>>134917448
>>134915939
read the fucking thread instead of acting like an edgy teen. We already discussed about this.

>>134917877
>couldn't Portugal do just one settlement like this somewhere?
And they did. There are plenty of fully Portuguese people in Brasil nowadays.

Most Portuguese in Brasil just mixed because Portuguese are historically "civic nationalists"

>>134916350
>Wow, Portuguese had no self control, they must have rape every women they saw.

Yeap, the classical rape, pillage, and burn. That was how we were born, my dear.

>>134917572
>Original Jamestown settlers were al male, but rather than mixing with natives they waited years to import women from the same country as them

Didn't know that, but maybe the difference is that the Jamestown settlers were planing to stay and create a city/country. The portuguese had no intention to stay or to create a society at all.

>>134911531
Because we were few and we didn't have the manpower to guard such a vast empire

>>134918176

I always thought that portuguese mixed because there wasn't white woman around.

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>>134910542
>>134911531
>>134912361
>>134914828
>>134916535
>>134918348
Pussy game too strong
Natives, africans, arabs, indians and asians. Can't refuse that

>>134913581
finland was just a bunch of tribes before we conquered them, not even close to being a country. they were just considered eastern sweden before russia took them

>>134910542
we cared about woman and gold, we didnt caare about politics or other affairs, i think this explains all our situation

>>134910542
what the fuck are austria's and greeces?
also didnt latvia have 2 colonies?

>>134918998
Also, but there were white women in Brasil also.

But portuguese people historically were never very racist.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%93rf%C3%A3s_d%27El-Rei

>>134918048
They didn't have to return though, just let the majority rule
>>134918176
Not many though, unlike in Australia, Canada, NZ, South Africa where there's plenty of Anglos still there
>>134918348
>>134918689
Wouldn't you rather be Portuguese descended rather than mixed though?
>>134919031
But it would be nice to know there's a decent sized Portuguese population elsewhere in the world outside Portugal though?
>>134919041
Finns are pretty much just saamis right? There's still lots in Russia on the other side of the border, that's cool

>Austrian colony
Where?

>>134910542

Anglos colonized empty land (at least when the natives died) so it was easy to create white countries , on other continent where the natives stayed in number , the Anglos were as unsuccessful that the other europeans nation.

>>134919625
>Australia
empty land

>Canada
Empty land

>New Zealand
Not empty land, yet still has a sizeable minority

>South Africa
Empty land

Starting to see a pattern here?

>>134919740

Germany.

kek

>>134910542
Not accurate Poland had colonies e.g Tobago, and part of Gambia

>>134910542
>and Germans
This old meme again

Britain was the only country with the means of establishing white settlements because it had a monopoly on the empty land throughout the 19th century.
Other did it where they could though not on nearly such a scale. See: (memes aside) Argentina, Cuba, large parts of Algeria

>>134910542
>>134910542

>Mostly Anglo

No. It's Anglo-Celtic for a reason.

Anglo soldiers. Celtic convicts.

Plus we got Wogs in the 40's, only like 30 years after America

>>134916764
>Much of you culture is actually German or even Scandinavian.
kek, how stupid. Do you realize what a minuscule proportion of our population scandis constitute? As for Germans, we've had a grand total of two german american presidents. One was only half

>>134919625
>Wouldn't you rather be Portuguese descended rather than mixed though?

Well, we are mixed exactly because of that.

The portuguese man mixed with non-portuguese woman. The Brazilian DNA is 88% european by male lineage but only 33% by female lineage. That's from where come our mixed population.

Splendid geographical isolation, pretty much because we have no land border with the rest of Europe, which allowed us to focus on properly setting up colonies, the other european powers had to constantly worry about land invasion.

>>134910542
Because Spain and Portugal expanded a couple hundred years earlier, with lower population, less technology. It was not a good idea back then to cross the sea with women

fake, poland had colonies, Tango, West India, Curlandia, Caraibes and few more

>>134911601

Most convicts and a lot of soldiers wanted to stay in Australia rather than recycling to Ireland or the U.K.

Although that was mostly for financial reasons since they were getting free land and gibs to settle and set up farms and businesses.

>>134919625
>They didn't have to return though, just let the majority rule
the majority threw all the Whites out in every country except South Africa because it happened there in the 1990s and there were way too many Whites. Even those Whites are leaving in high numbers.

>>134910542
>Austria had colonies
>Scandis had colonies

u wot

>>134910542
shit tier islands are inflating those numbers, by real colonies bongs are first and we're a close second

>>134919504
>were never very racist

dude we started the slave trade... then other countries joined

>>134920855
It's only 12 million, but still, it's obvious that you have stolen scandi culture.

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>>134919504
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%93rf%C3%A3s_d%27El-Rei

I had never heard about these Órfãs d'El-Rei, interesting. So they were worried about the issue, but probably was not enough.

By the time of our independence, there was a theory down here called "branqueamento". By this theory the white people should mix with non-white and since the european dna was superior, eventually the whole population would become white and no african or native dna would be left.

Pic related.

>>134922074
Actually 1 out of 25 are of Scandinavian descent. If you only look at the white population it's much more of course.

>>134910542
nz is mostly irish and maori senpai

>>134916350
Blue balls from traveling for months i na shitty tiny boat famalam.

>>134918348

not really majority was consensual. It's just the narrative of rape fits better with the mutts that look up to their mothers and are incapable of assimilating the thought that they might be sluts.

>>134912741
It's a fertile land.
We're living on what was the most populated area of Europe from Neolithic to the 19th century.

>>134921951
No we didn't idiot. Slavery as been the way of economy since bronze age. Go back to school nigger.

>>134919818
They conquered India, Egypt and as few other big countries, Anglos in Egypt got deported after the revolution
>>134919925
Why no French, Germans, Portuguese etc settling in empty land then?
>>134920239
Meme?
>>134920342
They mostly mixed as well, French just wanted to rule but not settle
>>134920847
Yeah I said before, when I said Anglo i meant British isles
>>134920855
There was a lot of Germans there just didn't make up ruling class
>>134920902
Should have remained pure
>>134920924
But could have still settled elsewhere
>>134921155
60+% of uk emigrants were moving to Australia and Canada because of free land in the Victorian era

>>134923483

That's true, I wrote the viking motto more as a joke. Recent studies show that most inter-racial relations in colonial times were consensual and the men would take the native/african/mixed woman as a wife. But the narrative of slautering and raping the continenet fits better for the victimization obsession of leftists.

>>134921588
True but why no settlements without mixing?
>>134921951
Slave trade wasn't about race then though
>>134922705
I said Anglo as in all British isles I meant. NZ has lots of Scots

>>134912361
A lot were thrown out you know? Criminals and undesirables, religious refugees fleeing from hard line puritan rule. etc.

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>>134925012
>True but why no settlements without mixing?
if only I had a say in that

>>134919625
>But it would be nice to know there's a decent sized Portuguese population elsewhere in the world outside Portugal though?

Kek, just in America and Canadá 1,5 million, the size of our second city

>>134924664
>Should have remained pure

Bro, if you were isolated in another planet, in the middle of some no-law land full of jungle with nothing but huts and farms to live and work, no hope to go back to civilization and no sighting of females of your own people. Instead, you have plentiful of pretty young native females around. What would you do? Really, what would you do? I am not passing any judgment, but I understand those guys.

>>134910542
>There has only ever been one Greek colony
>There have never been any Turkish colonies
The absolute state of that pic

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>>134910542
MOST COLONIES PER CAPITA COMING TROUGH

BOW DOWN TO THE PORTUGUESE EMPIRE BLASTING DUTCH AND SPANISH CUNTS ALL OVER THE WORLD

>>134925667

cut my own balls for the white race

>>134926400

>North Africans colonizing central africans

yawn

>>134911462
why didn't you populate Africa?

>>134910542
the natives refused to mix with the anglos because of how ugly and homely english men are.

>>134925321
Yeah, puritans had a lot of influence in America too
>>134925486
Could be a much better world today
>>134925556
Yes but they're assimilating to wider American culture, not retaining Portuguese identity or creating Portuguese language communities
>>134925667
Anglos had the same situation in early America, and Francis drake tried to settle an Anglo colony on the western coast in the same condition, no mixing with natives though

>>134925727

It says "European" so Turkey likely wouldn't be included anyway, by it all comes down to how the creator defines "colony". Looking at the total number of colonies, a pretty arbitrary decision by the colonizers who organized them, isn't a particularly illuminating statistics. Total population or land area under concise control would be more interesting.

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>>134926771
muh 52%

>>134925667

Pull out

>>134920855

German is the single largest ancestry of whites in America

>>134916043
that's because of the danoswedonorweigian union

>>134919504
well......, portuguese and spaniards were the first to create identity laws, against mixing in the Inquiisition times, even in the colonies, the system kept the whites as rulers.

>>134920847

Anglos are anglo-celtic though.

>>134916312
>>134916548
that's because of the danoswedonorweigian union

>>134927754
I know, I've said that earlier in the thread

>>134926669
>>134927320

kek

>>134927825
No. This was before that.

>>134913100
same but lost independence in 1940.

>>134910542
Spain and Portugal had a caste system in the colonies, if you were of mixed blood you couldn't hold higher offices for example. It was a continuation of the limpeza de sange which took place during and after the Reconquista. Pure bloods had a lot more power, but you know what the fate of Empires is. I doubt this could have turned out any other way with the Catholic Church involved. They're very keen on conversion.

>>134929254
What role did the Catholic Church play in mixing between colonists? Was Protestantism the reason Anglos and Dutch didn't mix in Africa and America?

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We still have a pseudo colony, Greenland.
Danish empire stronk!

>>134929476
That's a Norwegian colony.

>>134927216
Are you saying 52% as a demographic reference or as a reference to the number of colonies portugal had?

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>>134927010

Most i counted were also 2nd and 3rd generation portuguese, most places the portuguese integrates rather than assimilate, only then with the second and thrid generation the culture is lost, but there is always some that can be saved, particulary if he knows the language and country

>>134922288
>no african or native dna would be left

And instead the result is that 85% of the population are quadroons or octoroons and the remaining 15% are nigs, gooks and natives

>>134929648
Norway is a Danish colony

>>134929424
As I see it, it was a key factor. The Catholic Church had a very strong hold on our countries, and they pushed conversion at every turn through all possible means. Every boat of ours carried a missionary on board, who then taught our languages to the natives and converted them: "Spread the Word of God" was their highest priority. Integration was the natural conclusion of their efforts. Not to mention the Pope put forth a lot of coin for our expeditions.

The Protestants didn't care about that nearly as much, there wasn't a very powerful organisation breathing down their necks constantly.

>>134929715
Well I can tell you the most annoying European community in France is Portuguese. You can't hold a conversation with them in which they don't say how proud they are to be Portuguese.

>>134910542

RULE BRITANNIA

BRITANNIA RULE THE WAVES

>>134912361
>They could have made some little settlements though, some small islands were settled by 10-20 Anglo families, why didn't Portuguese do this?
The did. What do you think Madeira and the Azores are?

>>134930524
You cant even rule your own capital...

>>134910542
>Forgetting Japan

>>134930514

Yeah i know, i hate some of those too, they act totally diferent here you know? Like a french faggot showing he is classy
Still better neighboors than north africans

>>134931164
And Arabic countries... and China (before they conquered all).
Many more too.

>>134930514
We also hate most of them here. I myself have no real direct experience with them, but that's what everyone tells me at least. They think they're hot shit, but really are just insufferable cunts.

I did meet a girl who came here for university and she seemed well-behaved, if a bit too quiet. It boils my blood when foreigners don't behave here and the same can be said about my countrymen abroad. I feel ashamed to no end, like when they made a spectacle in France when we won the Euro. What a fucking disgrace.

>>134931460

>I did meet a girl who came here for university and she seemed well-behaved, if a bit too quiet.

If she is not slutty and if she is a modest women, then she might be a good catch, is she cute?

>>134932637
Yeah, a solid 8.

>>134932811

Did you fudge her?
I love diaspora cutties, they act classy and shit, but they always come home to taste native cock, few are the ones finding a man good enough there, unless they get desperate for cock and go on coal burning (my cousins both solid 8 and 9, one coal burning in aussie land with gooks, the other is a lesbian, and one girl i eat one summer that i know nothing of now)
You always have to be carefull, but thats because they are wymen

>>134929715
Shame they can't create Portuguese only communities elsewhere in the world, at least then if Portugul ever falls there's somewhere else to carry on
>>134930360
Catholic Church was too power hungry, fucked everything up
>>134930514
This is true, Portuguese always talk about Portuguese and fly the flag, yet don't seem to retain it after 1-2 generations
>>134931460
American tourists make a joke of themselves everywhere they go.
It's funny that Europeans always complain about British tourists yet in America they are always polite and nice

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>>134934034

Forgot to add a pic

>>134911531
What?
You know we had the most part of North America with until the 18th century right?
We lacked manpower and money to keep it up mainly

>>134934080
>Shame they can't create Portuguese only communities elsewhere in the world, at least then if Portugul ever falls there's somewhere else to carry on

They can form, in Portugal, elsewere it would just spark conflit, we had 1000 years and are ready for 1000 more, Portugal won't ever fall

>>134910542
Latitudinarianism is the correct answer, O.P. The Christians with bishops managed the organisation while the evangelicals pushed out everyone who wasn't Christian enough, ie. papists and browns.

>>134934034
>Did you fudge her?
No, I had a girlfriend at the time.

>>134935276

I fucked women, yet my only gf was in kindergarden, sometimes i think when i get a girl good enough i tie her and if i get bored with her get a mistress, i fucked hard by leaving cutties into me waiting to much while being a degenarate

>>134919193
sicily

>>134929821

The genotype is what one would expect, but the phenotype is totally messed up, there is very little correlation.

>>134910542
Russia? They annexed territories in eastern Europe and central Asia, but colonies?

>>134910542
>USA
>originally Anglos and Germans
t. german LARPer

>>134922074
Yes, counting mixed persons. And America had already developed ways of its own long before you dumb clods decided to stumble over you
>>134927448
Debunked

>>134934819
You held the most land but very few settlers
>>134934998
Should be settlements outside of Portugal though
>>134937387
What is this meme? There was lots of German settlers, Germans, Irish and Anglos make up largest white ethnicities to this day

>>134939038

We always have Luxemburg

>>134910542
>Portugla
>52

Say what, nigga?

I want to see a list please. They must be counting every little merchant's office in a city in bumfuck nowhere as a colony

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>>134910542
Netherlands did have some nice lands some islands in the Dutch Antilles are part of our country and are special county's within the country. Curacao is no longer part of the country, but still falls under the kingdom.

>>134916350
they actually initially had polygamous marriages with indigenous women, because indian chiefs gave their daughters in marriage to form alliances

the average brazilian still has 15% indigenous DNA (33% mtDNA) from this early fucking, and later on there were african women (part as slaves and concubines, but there are records of the portuguese even leaving part of their belongings to their kids with slave women in their wills, and eventually Brazil had what was probably the largest free-black population in the western world as a % - except maybe for Haiti).

The portuguese didn't try to stop it, they encouraged it. A mid 1700s code even gave governors power to punish people who badmouthed indians/portuguese after a falling out in their marriages with people from the other group, so as to avoid growing hostilities.

They wanted to integrate indians into the colony and have them as subjects, instead of allies or enemies.

You can google translate it here and you can read part of the text, especially 88-91

http://www.nacaomestica.org/diretorio_dos_indios.htm

>>134917572
people in England had several reasons to move there and take women to establish settlements, most portuguese and spaniard settles had no intention of living in the places they were going to, they thought they'd make a quick buck and fuck off back to Iberia

And when it comes to Spanish colonies, they had the areas where the vast majority of indians lived. The Andes and Central America and Mexico had far more people than any other place in the Americas, thus why they have more indigenous people today and more indigenous blood.

You can see the only places where mixing happenede where in commercial colonies where people went to make money in harsh conditions, like iberian colonies and the first stages of French colonization, that saw fur-trappers creating the Métis people

Women didn't want to go to such shitholes for quite a long time, so that kings even sent orphans, criminals etc to serve as people's wives

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>>134910542
>>134939731
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_former_European_colonies

>>134919504
Not initially. These you're talking about were very few, and the movement of white women to the colony only started increasing in the 1700s, when the base population was already mixed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilians

Ctrl+F "male"

This was a good bread. Would be a good one to take to /his/. I have infinite frustration about Spanish and Portuguese racemixing and the world it created (the cesspool known as Latin America). Mostly because I have to live in it. So sorry German, Dutch, French genes weren't spread more throughout the world. HOW COULD THE WHITE EUROPEAN PEOPLES SPREAD AGAIN? It's so unlikely it hurts. Can you imagine a New Norway where some shitty country in Central America now stands? New Sweden instead of Bolivia? New white nations around the world? one can only dream

>>134939731
>>134939731
No, they count it by individual colonies, Portugal had like 12 colonies all over in india alone

>>134941777
We all have to tip our hats to the Brits for creating the Anglosphere

>>134934819
You lost quebec in war, and then under napoleon sold Louisiana, which was fucking huge, to Thomas Jefferson

>>134927825

What He >>134928680 said

>>134940936
shitty google translation, tried to fix some parts but it still sucks, but you'll probably catch the drift here
>88 Among the means, more fit to achieve such a virtuous, useful, and holy purpose, none is more effective, than to seek by means of marriages this most important union. For this reason I recommend to the Directors that they exercise unceasing care in facilitating and promoting on their behalf the marriages between the Whites and the Indians, so that by this sacred bond may be completely extinguished that utterly detestable distinction, that the most polite nations of the world have always abhorred, as the common enemy of their true, and fundamental establishment.

>89 In order to facilitate such marriages, the Directors shall employ all the efficacy of their zeal in persuading all White People who they assist in their Populations that the Indians are not of inferior quality in respect to them, that deigning His Majesty to qualify them for all those honors competent to the graduations of their posts, consequently shall obtain the same privileges the people who marry wish said indians; banishing in this way the most damaging imaginations of the Residents of this State, who have always considered such marriages to be infamous.

>>134942678
>90 But as the provisions, still being regulated by the dictates of reflection and prudence, often produce contrary ends, and it may happen that, when these marriages are contracted, the bond degenerates into contempt, in discord the same union; In this way, the same means should be transformed into instruments of ruin, which should lead to concord; I strongly recommend to the Directors that they should be informed that some persons, being married, despise their husbands, or their wives, for having them the status of Indians, to immediately send him to the Governor of the State, so that they may be secretly punished as promoters of Old disagreements, and disrupters of peace, and of the public union.

>91 In this way you will understand the Indians with all the evidence, that we esteem their people; That we do not despise their covenants, and their kinship; that we regard as theirs their own utilities; And that we cordially and sincerely wish to preserve with them that reciprocal union on which they establish themselves and establish the solid happiness of the Republics

>>134941777
see how many large cities mexico had compared to the US, and how many indigenous people lived there then and now vs how many in the US

The US was pretty empty already (compared to Mexico), less organized and they were afflicted by diseases even before the english arrived there.

There were almost no womans in the Portuguese and Spanish colonies, so they often maried native womans.

>>134941340
Spanish ruled over a lot of North America and modern day USA as well as South America, yet still didn't settle there. Yeah the outlook was different but people would have wanted to stay once they were there, considering people from Francis drakes voyages wanted to stay in North America
>>134941777
Yea, I was expecting the thread to be full of shitnposters calling everyone degenerate or some shit but turned out quite well.

Yeah, I've heard there's a few settlements of Germans in Brazil which is interesting, apparently there's some English and Welsh communities in Argentina and chile as well. Anywhere good in Mexico?

>>134910542
Anglos fought for material gain. They exploited everything and everyone. They even invented teh concentration camps during the raping and genocide of boer people. Such is the nature of the eternal anglo. During the world war they constantly bombed the fuck out of civilians and hospitals. Now they're getting genocided in their own lands. Karma

>>134943535
Anti-Anglo!

>>134943688
Anti.truth

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>>134910542
Reminder the Spanish created Mexico, the number 1 current cause of America's imminent demise.
The Spanish have literally done more damage to us than Jews.

>>134944031
>The Spanish have literally done more damage to us than Jews.

Nice try goldstein. Not even close

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>>134944031

Reminder you anglos and baguetes had no business in america and due to that we had to create those shitholes in a hurry to defend our claims

>>134943442
the parts they ruled in south america were as full as the ones in Mexico, and they didn't bother to bo north in the US because there was nothing there to catch their interest, at first

The only place they ruled that had few indigenous people was Argentina (at that time, at least, later the argies fought the Mapuche and annexed their land), and surprise surprise, it's less mixed (still not white)

Another thing was the climate. in Argentina and the US you could grow more of the crops they were used to growing back home, and it was easier to start farming and living as they did in other places. Not so much between the tropics and near the equator.

>>134910542
See
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/16v0we/why_are_there_larger_native_and_mestizo/

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/2az2tm/why_was_there_so_much_more_race_mixing_in/

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/16v6wr/conquest_of_latin_america_vs_north_america/

Should be enough info here, by peopel who actually know the issue

>>134944304
Portugal was ripped off tbqh

Sure they had more lucrative trade routes at first, but their land was occupied by far more relevant people who could actually fight back, while the spics had half the world at their disposal, populated by people who couldn't fight back at all, and with a lot of land just waiting to be conquered

>Sweden
>8

It's like you faggots weren't even TRYING!

>>134943535
All the empires were built for exploitation originally, in WWs both sides killed civilians so no moral high ground argument, concentration camps were wrong though. Anglos were no worse than the other empires of the time, just more successful.
>>134944411
True, interesting how Argentina is less mixed and has better living standards than most South America, shame they didn't stay completely pure though

>>134943442
I know we have very small communities of mormons and mennonites in the northern part of the country. Don't know much about them, have always been curious. I've heard they still speak old dialects of Dutch and German. Their genes should be spread like wildfire. There's another small town in central Mexico supposed to be mostly of Italian descent (Chipilo). That's all.

>>134944980
Denmark has always been the best Scandinavian country, all the way back to the Vikings

>>134945030
Hitler never bombed civilians in France. He waited 3 months and didnt want to retaliate when the eternal anglo kike bombed their hospitals and civilians during teh night because they couldnt penetrate the german aa during the day

>>134945072
That's cool, forgot about mennonites and Amish, they count as mostly German settlers and speak dialects of German, considering they're high birth rates and humble living they could have a big population in a few centuries

>>134944972

We got to make a longer empire and more spread empire, plus, our own renaissance

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_Renaissance

>>134945330
Massacred civilians in Poland and Czech Republic, a village in France and bombed 100k civilians in U.K.

>>134946241
Thinking about it, the Anglo-Portuguese alliance was very one sided, only seemed to benefit UK

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>>134947394

It was, but at least we managed to survive until today, unlike the catalunya faggots and Galizia senpai.

>>134920924
This

>>134948068
Yeah true, survival is most important, shame Portugal doesn't have al the Atlantic coast
>>134949379
Like I said, it doesn't explain why not many of the people from other countries settle that much around the globe, the Dutch had land borders to powerful countries yet still had lots of settlers in South Africa

>>134910542
Italy only had 3

>>134952590
They had a few little ones during renaissance over the place

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>>134951207

We have enough land and sea, if we started charging the oil (and other goods) ships travelling to north european sea we could make it substacially more expensive

>>134956279
>if we started charging the oil (and other goods) ships travelling to north european sea we
would be btfo one way or another, no one would pay

>>134956629

Then we would sunk their ships in portuguese water just for funs or they would have to go around it
Only if we had a modernized navy...

>>134957793
>implying we're in the 1600s
good luck with that
http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing-nato-members.asp

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>>134958254

Reeeeeeeee

Let man dream

>tfw, despiste all Portugal can be like the modern day serene repúblic of venice, but a lot of shit like repatriations, cleaning debts, investiments... would have to take place

>>134910542
>200-300 million.

Naw probably billions more.

You are assuming the natives would still be around hogging all that land and resources. Once Euros...dealt with said population, the colonists would be able to grow at a very quick rate with their superior technology and logistics.

>>134910542
>Being this historically illiterate

What were the Scandinavian and Russian colonies?

>>134959784
>>134943426

>>134934080
>Catholic Church was too power hungry, fucked everything up

no, gay fag child molester martin luther fucked everything up.

Protestantism is satanism. a mockery of Christianity with fags being married in their "churches"

forgot to mention, race-mixing was common in south africa.

when the cape colony was still controlled by the dutch, european settlers loved having sex with black women and Asian slaves.

almost half of Cape Town today is mixed-race.