Friendly reminder that when Obamacare gets repealed, 99% of American

>>134909508
Sort yourself out Krautcuck . Most working people end up paying the fine for not having Onigger care because it was cheaper than buying insurance a total waste that does none of the things it was sold as.

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>>134909508

For small things, it's far cheaper to go to a nearby clinic and pay cash. Obamacare benefits big insurance and big pharma, not the people. Oh sure, some may get a free ride, but young people are forced to pay ridiculous premiums when they're mostly healthy. Also, Congress gets their own plan and there are many exemptions for Obama's buddies. Based on lies, Obamacare is a disastrous fraud.

>>134912185
>it's far cheaper to go to a nearby clinic and pay cash
lol

>>134909508

> obamacare helps business

?????

If you're a small business with 50 employees you're FUCKED

I wish they had just called it the ACA instead of Obamacare. Now we're going to have countless iterations of -care used to label every damn thing. I just hope it doesn't get as overused as the -gate suffix.

>>134909508
>he thinks i have Obamacare

its too expensive for the middle class here. why the fuck do you think white working class people voted for Trump and republicans?

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>>134909508

>gives you the freedom to start your own business

>>134909508
99%. Care to back that up with any real evide... ah what are we kidding. The left doesn't need evidence to spew their shit.

Anytime anybody on the internet mentions "99%", you can be sure it's a totally accurate and well researched statistic

>>134909508
Thats right b@tch, and we are loving it!!

>>134909508

Sigh. German thinks he understand the situation because he saw a cartoon.
It ain't your universal socialized medicine German and it never was. It's expensive as hell, it's FORCED on people to have to pay it, and it's the biggest bunch of bullshit regarding healthcare the world has ever seen.
Imagine if we took away your socialized medicine and replaced it with something VERY expensive you had to PAY for? Would you be happy?
Then why the fuck are you promoting here you stupid shit?

>>134909508
Listen mohammed, the working stiff cant even afford regular bills never leaa fucking obama care, all I'll lose is the obama care FINE ((they)) issue me for not being able to afford healthcare. Dont you have more German shit to worry about.

>>134909508
>A blog I read by a libcuck in America says ObamaCare was good and TrumpCare was bad so that means it has to be true.
Come on, at least try to research or are you only fluent in Turkish and Arabic?

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>>134909508
>tfw insurance through my job

I don't really care about Obamacare, actually. I'd have voted democrat if Hillary wasn't anti-gun.

>I, a healthy 28 year old male, with good genetics, will no longer be forced to by the government to buy a private product I don't need.

Sounds good to me.

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>>134909508
>obamacare helps business

>>134909508
>speculum
That is my fetish
Go, Trump, Go!

OMG I can't believe Trump is outlawing healthcare.

>>134912711
>he doesn't know about the cash rates

Nigger, my insurance went to shit after the ACA. I lost my plan because as a FUCKING WHITE MALE I wasn't covered for pregnancies. (Because men can get pregnant too, shitlord!)

I lost my insurance recently due to a move and a job change. Haven't picked up new coverage. And I've saved a fuckton of money. Every single prescription I've picked up has been CHEAPER than my out-of-pocket when I was insured.

Even my doctors visits and xrays have been cheaper than what my deductibles were without insurance with a negotiated cash payment. And I'm not having to pay for insurance on top of that.

Fuck Niggercare. It's a worthless system.

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>>134913255
So you're pro universal healthcare then?

>>134912185
>Oh sure, some may get a free ride, but young people are forced to pay ridiculous premiums when they're mostly healthy.
I thought one of the major improvements brought about by Obamacare was that people age 18-25 could remain on their parents/guardians healthcare plan, which is a much cheaper alternative than starting your own account.

>>134909508
really hope there isnt enoughe votes

>>134909508
>gives you freedom to start your own business

It actually hinders small business from growing past 30 or so employees. Thanks for barrier to entry, corporate cock sucking faggot.

Obama and his legacy is being actively deleted from history.

>>134909508
Obamacare is used by millions of illegal spics, so it has to go.

>>134913411
*big business

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>>134909508
Pic forgot the one positive that outweighs them all: I no longer have to pay for other people.

I am not your slave. It is not my duty to pay for people who were too stupid to become successful. Try being less of an idiot in your next life because it's pretty fucking easy to pick a career that makes you wealthy.

>>134912830
>small business
>50 employees

>>134909508
Actual poorfag here.
Got lucky and found a menial job that pays for health insurance.
Almost lost it twice thanks to Obamacare and price hikes. If it's repealed my job can afford the health insurance and maybe even a better plan.
Also, Charlie Gard. America is currently the only country that matters that doesn't have ridiculous laws that allow the government to kill your child.

>>134913311
Hillary's views probably aren't crazy. Unfortunately she's a corporate whore and a war monger.

>>134909508
My premiums, deductibles, and cost of prescriptions went up every single year after the passage of the Affordable Care Act. My primary care physician dropped HAP (my insurance) and I had to pay extra during tax season because I under-estimated my 2016 earnings by about 10 percent.

Unless you have some exotic disease, or make less than 13k a year, Obamacare objectively sucks.

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>I don't have to pay a black doctor

/pol/ wins again!

>gives you the freedom to start a small business
Huh?
>attempts to address healthcare crisis
He created the healthcare crisis lol

>trumps plan endangers political future of anyone who supports it
If I recall, Republicans swept the house, governorships etc in 2010, swept the senate in 2014 and took the presidency all on the promise of repealing obamacare

What fucking world does this person live in?

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Anglo's are mentally retarded

>>134913447
I find it incredibly hard to believe that your prescriptions cost less without insurance than they do with insurance. In fact, you'd be fined for not having insurance under ACA because you're a walking liability. You may have to pay higher premiums with coverage, but that's essentially the point of ACA, you pay higher premiums for better (and cheaper) access to PREVENTATIVE health care. The idea was to create a healthier nation that can afford to go to the doctor for routine checkups to avoid the staggering costs of hospital visits and surgeries. ACA is designed to be cheaper over time to previous healthcare models, both for citizens and businesses.

And as someone who's lived on both sides of the spectrum (with coverage and without) it's much more expensive to pay out of pocket to access any medical coverage than it is under coverage, both short-term and long-term.

>>134913902
It is.

>incoming anecdotal evidence

>chick I know starts a business 20 years ago
>its fart sniffing art porn for females basically
>mostly all furniture
>all hand crafted
>/biz/ going great until obamacare
>has to lay off employees because her company can't afford obamacare to stay afloat
>forced to implement new machinery and tech to replace workers
>problem is its no longer hand crafted
>still does produce "some" hand crafted shit

She actually navigated it well, but she really wishes should could hire more employees to grow the handcrafted product line further as it was growing steadily nationwide.

>>134909508
Good government should not be paying for healthcare.

>>134909916
this right fucking here

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>>134909508

Friendly reminder that Germans are 100% mentally handicapped for saying dumb shit like this.

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Why does anyone like this neocon again?

He's pushing neocon care and war with Asad

>>134909508

Retarded post keeps conflating heath (((insurance))) with actual care.

Neither of them do shit to bring down the cost of the actual care, just about which jew takes your monthly tithe.

Demand the fucking doctors publish prices in advance to force some competition.

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>>134909508
>OY VEY PAY FOR ALL THE SUB HUMAN ANIMALS HEALTHCARE GOY
eat shit and die shill, clock is ticking

>>134914588
It's not their fault. Most of the good German genes were removed from the gene pool in the 40's.

>>134914385
>flag
Oh the irony. You are not wrong btw.

>poorfags bitching about expensive healthcare
>ctrl+f "subsidies"
>0 results
well that explains that

>>134913971
She literaly said that aborting a baby 1 hour before its born is fine

>>134914636
Nice try rabbi.
Trump is too thicc to be in league with the jews.

Maybe if Germany and the rest of NATO paid for their own defense against Russia instead of leaving the heavy lifting to the US, burgers could enjoy government-paid healthcare too. Oh right, EU Army right on the horizon, lol.

>>134914845
>literaly
where did she ever say that "literally"

>>134914446
>You may have to pay higher premiums with coverage, but that's essentially the point of ACA, you pay higher premiums for better (and cheaper) access to PREVENTATIVE health care.

I never had any problems before my premiums and deductibles doubled thanks to O-NiggerCare! I'm 28 what fucking preventative care do I want? The whole point of my insurance was for big shit, now I have a 7k deductible if that happens. Get fucked you retarded piece of shit.

>>134913311

>Being a single issue cuckold

>>134915107
It's not my fault that it's basically the only issue that affect me personally.

>>134915107
>being an anarchist

>>134909508
I haven't been able to afford health insurance since 2011, thanks to Obamacare. I think 99% of people have had to likewise pay a lot more for their health insurance since then.

>>134914446

The fuck are you on about? My rated affordable plan is 5k in network 10k out deductibles with nothing until those limits. I pay 63 a week for it, and my prescription is 75 bucks. I make 30K.

My yearly out of pocket costs have never been 5K, but thanks to Obama care, they are at least 3,200 a year just in premiums.

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>>134914385

>>134909508
>when the government stops paying for everyone health care everyone will stop having health care
is that bad?

>>134915236

Everything affects you. Nobody is an island

>>134909508
Reminder that the average american hate obongocare and eurocuck opinions do not matter

>>134909508
good
only the healthy should survive

look at our nations
free healthcare ruined it because it made the weak faggots survive and now they vote agains the strong

trump should abolish healthcare to 100%
only the strong shall survive!

>>134909508
Of course kraut does not understand what a sunset provision is. Only krauts man.

I have a job so no.

>>134909508
My insurance went up 120 dollars a pay period thanks to that nigger. Go fuck yourself Kraut. Suck Mama Merkels sour milk and choke on a sausage.

>>134913344
Until you get hit by a car and wake up in the ICU with a literal million dollar medical bill.

>>134909508
>hi I'd like some money to start a small business
>*gives finger*

>>134909508

Chi meditation eliminates 99% of the reason to go to a doctor and that means you don't need to go on their records so they can know how to kill you. There's a good reason (((they))) put industrial acid waste in your tap water and call it "fluoride good for teeth durp".

>>134915870
>million dollar medical bill
You pay your medical bills?
You know you don't have to right? They just call you a lot, change your number.

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>>134909508
As long as they don't mess with my NEETbux!

>>134914446
You're full of shit. The whole point was to subsidize shitty people with tax dollars and subsidize the old and sickly by imposing higher premiums on the young and healthy.

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Americans are fucking retarded, their cost of healthcare is obscene and insurance companies wont take you in if you have a pre-existing condition. Have fun getting racking up tens of thousands of dollars of debt when you need surgery then so try not to get sick stupid americunts.

>>134914830
What good is a 40 dollar per month subsidy when you're still paying 200 a month for a plan that doesn't begin to help until you've cleared the 4000 dollar annual deductible?

>>134909508
>immediately lose their healthcare.

No, actually they won't.

>>134909916
Exactly. I get fined every year and the ammount I'd have to pay to have insurance is steep compared to my income. I can't afford it unless I want to be homeless.....
Fuck Obama. He robs me every year I'm supposed to get a tax return by helping himself by fining us.
The fine is WAY less of a hit than the payments would be.

Idk where you got that idea about it helping businesses cause all its done is ensure that no one will hire full time.

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I have Blue Cross Blue Shield paid for by my job. Even if I didn't, it's $120/month for similar healthcare if I were to get the same plan through the same insurance.

Obamacare wanted $400+ per month from me for their "gold" plan. I.e. the plan that actually covered shit and didn't have a $3000+ deductable. Their only plan that wasn't minimum $200/month was their "catastrophic" plan. (Not making the name up. Literally called that). It was $80/month with insane deductable. This was based on my $40k/year job (before taxes)

On top of the fact that Obamacare by it's very nature is anti-American. It's the government FORCING me to purchase health insurance or be fined. Not my responsibility to pay for those too lazy to pay their own way. Obama, his legacy, and his bullshit healthcare system that he forced on everyone can all rot.

>>134909508
What healthcare? It's too expensive for me to have, I've just been paying the yearly penalty for having the privilege of not being on insurance.

>>134909508
If liberals want to fund planned parenthood, they could do it out of their own pocket. It's not a government agency last time I checked. They can open up their wallets instead of working people's wallets. Of course they're liberal so they don't understand how economics works.

>>134915531
>he prefers barbarism over civilitization
Obamacare was a cash-heist operation anyway. With no legally included assurance that the government to could negotiate on drug prices with companies, Americans would've been paying extreme and compulsory premiums for over-priced drugs/services/etc, while the entirety of the American medical community spirals into further crony institutionalized dietary and pharmaceutical negligence and immorality.

>>134915790
It's not Ocoon's fault, healthcare providers are just a bunch of fucking jews.

Belgian yuropoor from the litteral communist sharia half of that non-country. Can you explain in clear terms why obamacare sucks since the american system is so different from ours us eurocucks dont get it and understand that it would be the équivalent of Trump destroying our own healthcare system.

>>134909508
>implying I use that trash

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>>134917242
>Healthcare law passes making healthcare mandatory.
>Everyone's insurance goes up 100% or more
>Not Obama's fault

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>>134909508

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>>134917242

>Obamacare
>Not Obama's fault

Brilliant.

>>134916313
Have fun dying waiting in line

>>134909508

Oh, would you look at that... A German named Ahmed or Mohammed trying to ruin my country after ruining his.

>>134914636
Nice try Vladimir

>>134909508
Friendly reminder, bathhouse Barry is half white.

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If (you) responded to this and did not sage or thought that it was a legit thread, (you) are a fucking idiot.

>>134909508
You ever wonder why Obama pushed the ACA when he did? What with the economy tanking and the job market in free fall? It wasn't because the Democratic Party, which was elected to fix the financial crisis, suddenly had a sudden attack of civic virtue. It was because the insurance and medical industry, some of their biggest donors, were about to take a massive hit. See, right about 2007 or 2008, doctors were getting sick of the massive paperwork and regulations related to insurance, including medicare and Medicaid. So a bunch of them started forming co-op clinics. Patients paid a fixed monthly fee of $20 to $40 dollars for general care. These co-ops negotiated with drug insurance providers and co-op patients took out catastrophic health insurance plans to cover hospital visits and major surgery. The co-op model started in California and was spreading. Co-ops had negotiating power, and both the health insurance and health care industry was in danger of losing control. The answer to this was the ACA. It forced everyone to buy insurance and outlawed the catastrophic plans that made the Co-op model viable.
>if you like your plan, you can keep it

>>134909508

This is literally the dumbest argument I've ever seen for pro-Obongocare.

>>134909508
Trumpcare is ironic because it implies that trump cares

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Healthcare would be cheaper if there was actually competition and more flexible plans

But the ACA and all of the Republican bills don't actually address this. It's just more money for insurance companies and more expensive premiums

>>134917799

heh this idiotic death panels meme again, typical dumbass american. Rather die in the waiting line than in the gutter.

>>134912185
Not in the US is not. If you have even half decent insurance you can get a routine visit for free and prescriptions for next to nothing.

Here's what it should be:
- bar healthcare providers from charging uninsured customers more than insured customers
- replace the income/payroll tax breaks for health insurance with an equivalent unconditional tax cut
- let new healthcare companies provide non-emergency care to their own standards, including choosing workers and equipment
- let new professional organizations certify healthcare workers to their own standards
- require that healthcare providers which aren't fully certified by old methods formally notify their customers of this fact, in a narrowly prescribed way which forbids them from distorting it or presenting it as a selling point
- reform healthcare liability with caveat emptor standard (the cost of big-dollar lawsuits ends up being borne by other customers)
- socialize emergency care, since there's no reasonable opportunity for customer choice (don't ban private emergency care, just provide a public system)
- socialize some low-cost public health measures which benefit the general public more than the individual concerned, such as vaccinations and tests and treatments for contagious illnesses
- criminalize abuse of emergency care for non-emergency needs
- specifically criminalize use of emergency care by illegal aliens, with a system to catch and deport them, with severe criminal penalties for non-cooperation by personnel

>>134909508
i work for county gov im good

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>>134913533

>>134921071
I've heard dumber, but this one is definitely up there.

>>134909508
So I'm guessing I'm in the 1% who lost their coverage BECAUSE of Obamacare, then.

Yeah no, repeal that shit.

>>134909508
This will accidentally be a good thing

the healthcare is killing them.

>>134909508
I can't afford Obama care anyway here in alabama, $1200 + a month just for me

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>>134909508
>implying i have """"healthcare""""
Self-employment is a double edged sword

>>134909508
Why should I be forced to pay for crap I don't want like maternity and mental health
why cant I get a cheaper plan if I am lower risk?

>>134912185
>For small things, it's far cheaper to go to a nearby clinic and pay cash. Obamacare benefits big insurance and big pharma, not the people. Oh sure, some may get a free ride, but young people are forced to pay ridiculous premiums when they're mostly healthy.

the dongs who only buy the bronze level plans are fucked if something actually happens to them. they run head on into the 10k+ deductibles, which might as well be 100k for their ability to pay it. obama care is useless and a fraud, like its namesake.

>>134909508
>covers care for poor women
But the poor black non binary transgender women who will be hurt from this.
It's literally murder I'm literally shaking right now.

>>134914446
>The idea was to create a healthier nation that can afford to go to the doctor for routine checkups to avoid the staggering costs of hospital visits and surgeries.

You're going to get sick when you're going to get sick. Regular checkups aren't going to prevent that. Your body will fuck up in ways regular checkups rarely detect, and if they detect something, your body is already in the process of fucking up.

>>134914758
>It's not their fault. Most of the good German genes were removed from the gene pool in the 40's.

Like the french revolution... only the tards remained

>>134909508
So happy. I was better off with no healthcare than healthcare that costs more than my rent.

>>134923813
>But the poor black non binary transgender women who will be hurt from this.
>poor black non binary transgender women

Oy vey think of the six... thousand?

Oy vey the six thousand!!!

>99% of American /pol/tards immediately lose their healthcare.

Thank god.

>>134909916
FPBP

>>134913597
Hope in one hand and shit in the other. See which one fills up first.

>>134913902
50 people is small lol
thats like a ma and pa company
>i work for one

>>134909508
You should worry about your own country Hans, giving mudslimes reign over your country isnt a good thing.

>>134909508
Good, i voted for trump hoping warhawk hillary wouldnt be in office to draft youngmen to fight shitty liberal wars.

But idk trumptards deserve this honestly.

>>134909916
This my insurance doesn't even pay until I pay $2000 out of pocket might as well be uninsured op might be able to see how obongocare fucks everyone that isn't a poor nigger if he'd wipe Ahmed's cum from his eyes

>>134916914
We are also paying taxes that gave others healthcare.

>>134909508
>immediately
>in two years

Nkay buddy

>>134909508
Can anyone explain to this shit for brains nigger why people started the meme "Health care is a human right"? It's a privilege if you can afford it.

>>134909508
you mean
>won't get taxed for insurance that they don't need or will have their premiums go down.

>>134922576
My company dropped their group plan.

>>134917799
>natsoc
>doesnt believe his country men should be getting healthcare.

t.larper

>>134909508

1 post by this ID.

Either a slide thread, or a retard. Either way sage.

>>134924886
Libs trying to secure the poor vote at the expense of the middle class

>>134924985
Who is stopping you from getting healthcare?

>>134909508
this is wrong.

>implying i have healthcare

>>134909508
>Are crabs in a bucket

>>134924886
From what I have seen it is cheaper not to have health insurance. They double the price on anything that get sent to insurance. If insurance won't pay you get to.

>>134925120
which points?

>>134925089
nothing i already have it, and its not obamacare.

>>134909508
Fuck off with your talking points OP. I fell for the "gives you the chance to start your own business" Obamacare bullshit, and am now damn near starving. Just fuck off with your bullshit lies.

>>134909916
>POTUS signs EO waiving the fine

>>134925324
Ok then what are you complaining about?

>>134913902
Maybe in a shithole country like yours, employing 50 people is a big deal, but in real countries thats still pretty damn small.

>>134909508
you can keep your doctor, anon

>>134909508
Just another asphyxiating vine of Socialism we're whacking away in America.

Bless President Donald J. Trump. I still have my insurance motherfuckers, get a job.

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nuke germany

>>134909508
I have private insurance. Great policy too
Enjoy being poor OP

>>134909508
you can keep your doctor, OP

>>134912185

It's not true.

There's overburned of regulation. There's almost nothing that you can actually get done at a clinic in America.

They need to over bill the shit out of you in order to cover the regulation. The only way to protect your wallet is with insurance, which in reality serves more as a buyers club and cartel. You have a professional, cutthroat company negotiating for better prices.

The only thing that is viable is lab testing. This is standard and regulatory burden is lower. Get the lab test done, then self medicate with deep web pharmaceuticals.

>>134916768
Obamacare is for people who do not have coverage. Most of the cost is subsidized by the government.

Your job provided insurance plan was subsidized by your employer. You never plaid for the true cost of that plan (or rather, it was part of your compensation). You didn't need a market place plan and the plans were not designed with you in purpose for that reason.

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>>134909508
>99% of American immediately lose their healthcare
Please off yourself.

>>134909508
1 post by OP
Shitty mass produced leftist cartoon
German talking about US politics
>Obvious slide thread
Sage, and stop responding to stupid shit like this.

>>134911906
I don't think the ears are large enough.

very loaded reasoning on the OP's pic.

It says with Trump "people" loose healthcare.
But, have you heard of justice, not social justice?
With Trumpcare people who are willing to pay for their own healthcare are LESS likely to loose coverage than with obamacare. With obamacare millions of parasites (who dont pay for their own) get coverage that would loose with Trumpcare.
parasites =/= decent citizens. one does not substitute for the other.
obamacere = healthcare + welfare.
trumpcare = healthcare (for non-parasites)

IF YOU CANT AFFORD HEALTHCARE THEN MAYBE YOU SHOULD GET A FUCKING JOB

>Burdening the poor with a car payment per family member
>The best possible system

>>134909916
Yeah, this.

I could get myself insurance for 300 bucks a month, or... I could pay a fine at the end of the year of 600$ for not having insurance. Hmm...

Unless my wages are raised to 70k/yr I can't afford insurance.

>b-b-but what about subsidies?

Yeah... If you make more than 15$/hr you don't qualify.

So unless my employer provides insurance (he doesn't) I don't have insurance. That fucking simple.

>>134925426
I obviously think people shouldnt have to pay out the ass for getting treated, or at least the stigma behind debt should go away, a lot of dumb people dont want to "exploit" the fact there is no penalty for going into medical debt.

Although I wouldnt really trust the american government or any government for that matter with healthcare considering the few times the US government has given people free healthcare it was means to experiment of them.

People should just go to med school and learn to preform important surgery on themselves then or something.

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>>134909508

Yeah, I'm really going to miss having to buy health insurance when I'm just starting to make money out of college and have no need of anything beyond catastrophic coverage.

Really going to miss the opportunity to be forced to buy in to a system where I get to subsidize Boogie's quadruple bypass and Stacy's birth control.

>>134909508

I already don't have insurance, Hans

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>>134909508
When was Obamacare established? Trying to pinpoint where to draw the line on my death rate chart...

You can really tell the underage /pol/faggots from the rest of the working class. They have no concept of what insurance was like before the ACA and how completely fucked the system was.

Rates were already skyrocketing before the ACA and it was made worse because insurance companies would do fucking anything possible to deny you coverage. As a 17-year old back in 2005 my family had insurance trouble because I had mild acne and that was considered a pre-existing condition. And the people that think they're better off with no healthcare are the real immigrants and leeches of America. They don't do shit until they get sick or hurt, then go to the hospital and raise prices for everyone else because they're too much of a fucking retarded poorfag or dipshit to bother with preventative care.

>>134909916
This. It just fucked my parents over with absolutely no benefit to them. Fuck Onigger care

>>134926099
Then find a way to get bare bones insurance or pay the $600 you parasitic nigger. Not my responsibility to make sure you can get a 120k heart surgery because your bum ass was too unqualified to get a job with descent benefits.

>>134926207
Why do you think you're entitled to have your coverage subsidized by people with actual insurance? You're a fucking leech faggot and should kill yourself.

>>134913902
It is.

You don't really hit the medium business stage until you're over 100 employees.

Large business is debatably between 500-1k+

At least in the US.

>>134926587
Why should pay a fine for something I dont want
I never went to the doctor before Obamacare

>>134912987
>>gives you the freedom to start your own business
That part was true though. One of the major hurdles for breaking off from your current employer to start your own company was the sudden loss of health insurance.

Obamacare set up the SHOP exchanges for small businesses to let them buy into plans comparable to what was once only available to large companies. Any person with a family, or any entrepreneur with any kind of existing medical condition (or a family member with an illness) could not afford to leave their current company and start out on their own. They we would never be able to afford health coverage.

This is a phenomenon known as "Job Lock" where you are stuck with your current employer because you cannot afford to lose the health benefits they provide, and you cannot afford to move elsewhere and risk re-enrolling in another health plan only to be rejected due to pre-existing conditions.

>>134909508
Reminder that the POTUS doesn't legislate.
But the POTUS does control foreign policy. How bout Libya you faggots.

>>134913799
If the Republicans replace and repeal they will lock in his legacy as the first President to successfully help implement such a major healthcare law. If they let it fail then his legacy will be a major disaster.

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>>134909508
>>134909916
>>134911906
>>134912711
>>134912830
REPEAL AND REPEAL

NO COMMUNIST STATE HEALTHCARE

>>134926752
Because you know what happens when you get sick, injured or get into an accident? Tax payers pay the cost. They subsidize the hospitals that cover your retarded ass because you were too stupid to get insurance.

And that's exactly why insurance companies want you to go to the doctor. It's cheaper to get issues caught early then deal with someone getting late-stage rectal cancer because they want to be a leech.

>>134909508
Why do they always conveniently ignore the people who lost coverage since obamacare

>>134925636
>They need to over bill the shit out of you in order to cover the regulation. The only way to protect your wallet is with insurance, which in reality serves more as a buyers club and cartel. You have a professional, cutthroat company negotiating for better prices.

Anyone want to explain to me why I'm 26 and in the gym 4 days a week, no pre-existing conditions and I have a $495 monthly payment and $6,000 deductible which doesn't cover prescriptions? I'd really like somebody to explain to me that I do not in fact have a huge dick in my ass in the shape of the Obamacare insurance scheme.

i'll "lose" obamacare the same way i'd "lose" cancer.

I have insurance through work, which is good here in Iowa. Two of the 3 companies selling individual plans here pulled out, and the last jacked prices by 43% just to stay in for another year.

System is shit. (We also have some fag with a blood disease who refused to die who literally costs 1mil a month to keep alive. Obongo won't let companies say no, so they just bail on the whole state instead of covering that shit.)

>>134909508

I've yet to meet anyone that actually works for a living and is trying to raise a family that likes obamacare. Only students and uninformed like Obamacare.

>>134909508
Well, back to buying fish antibiotics I guess
So much for being a first world country

>>134909508
and once they lose it they can buy a less expensive one

Kick out the gibbers before they take your country over with socialist drones.

>>134926453
On 2010, so it should be when the line is on the 8 of the Y axis.

>>134926993
>Because you know what happens when you get sick, injured or get into an accident? Tax payers pay the cost
First he hospital financially destroys you to squeeze what they can to cover the bills, unless you are already living in poverty. If you are middle class but uninsured you lose your home, your savings, your car, your business if you have one, all your guns if you have any. If you are not already nigger-tier poor already you will be soon.

People who have nice things tend to insure them though. It is only those lacking personal responsibility who choose to forgo any reasonable insurance coverage. Every single person you saw on TV who fought against the individual mandate already has insurance for their own family. Never forget that.

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>>134927610
>>134927610
>>134927610
>>134927610
LISTEN TO THIS

REPEAL AND REPEAL

WE HAVE TO GO BACK, NOT LEGITIMIZE STATE HEALTHCARE

>>134915870
>get hit by a car
>wake up with $1m medical bill
>tell the hospital "lol yeah I'm never going to be able to pay this"
>hospital negotiates it down to $5/m for the rest of your life and gets to mark the remainder off as a loss on their taxes

>>134926587
I already do. I'm not being a parasite, rather Obamacare makes me pay for parasites.

Ocare is fucking disastrous. My premiums when I had insurance went from 50$/mo back in 2008 to 300$/mo here in 2017, with higher deductibles, and no real services. Why is wanting to have my old quality insurance back?

Ocare fucks the middle class.

>>134928270

Is your reason for wanting this because you hate people or something else?

Truth be told, I mostly supported the idea of a free government run healthcare system, but then looking at how corrupt the US government is HA, yeah good luck getting anything besides sugar pills and experimental drugs like they already do to US solders.

>>134928277
>hospital proceeds to gouge prices on people with insurance to cover the losses from people without insurance
>they start getting fiercer and fiercer, eventually using collection agencies to take away all of your shit
>live the rest of your live in squalor
>BUT AT LEAST I DIDN'T HAVE TO BUY GOVERNMENT INSURANCE

>>134928495
>free government run healthcare system
That doesn't exist, you filthy commie

Nope I'm still set because my grandparents traveled back to their ancestral homelands to kill their own people to save the kikes :^)

>>134927189
It's just a coincidence goy! Now just pay your high premiums so some nigger can birth another child on your dime!

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>>134924758
You think 2200 is bad?

Hold my beer

>>134926613

I have health insurance you mong, I would just like to be able to buy a plan that doesn't include what I don't need. ACA means I can't do that since plans have to be compliant with what the govt. thinks I need in a plan.

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>>134909508
jokes on you i can't afford healthcare

>>134926993
Why not just let hospitals turn away people that cant pay?

>>134928390
Just get a better job its your own fault you arent qualified to do skilled labor you cuck, you desire to die! ex dee.

>>134928624
> it would have been so much better if they were cucks like you
Sissy faggot

>>134909508
The healthcare I was forced to buy and has gone up 200%?
Oh gosh darn it. Whatever will I do.

>>134928827
You realize that insurance companies would abuse you thinking you know what you 'need' so that when shit goes down they don't have to pay, right?

You got 'catastrophic coverage'? Oh I'm sorry our catastrophic plan only covers car accidents when you're a driver, not when you're a pedestrian. You're gonna have to pay full price.

And if you think I'm joking this is shit I quite literally experienced. You will not win against an insurance company telling you to fuck off and the free market doesn't prevent this shit from occurring until shit goes down.

>>134909508
>gives you the freedom to start your own business

This is blantantly false

>>134928973
mountainkike spotted

>>134929150
>fuck off and the free market doesn't prevent this shit from occurring until shit goes down.
yes it does
dont buy a plan that doesnt cover things you might need

>>134909508
Nah, I have a job you retarded system-sucking faggot

>>134909508
I have a job, and pay for mine you fuck shill faggot

>>134909916
FP Greatest post

>>134928899
Why do you want America to turn into Africa? Do you live in the ghettos faggot?

>>134921715
what's a better name for a panel of professionals that dictate who does and doesn't receive rationed life saving medical care

>>134909508
>implying I have healthcare
Lol get rekt you sickly poor fucks. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

>>134909508
how much did the US tax raise to inorder to pay for EVERYONES healthcare bill

>>134928923
I'm already doing skilled labor you fuck. My employer just doesn't provide insurance.

>Why not just leave.

Because I actually like my job. I have benefits most people don't get in what I do, but I also have to deal with some other things. Problems of being in a small business.

>>134929268
Are you a lawyer? Have you fully read your plan up and down, knowing the loopholes that a plan has so that insurance companies can get out of paying you?

Did you actually have insurance before 2010 and know what a special kind of hell it was?

>>134909508
I can't afford healthcare anyway lmao. Keep crying.

>>134929320
How will it turn America into Africa?

>>134929449
No because I have no interest in going to the doctor

>>134909508
Good, I hope 100,000 nigglets die in the first year alone.

>>134929527
Gee, why do you think faggot.

>>134929603
Congrats on being a welfare leech. When are you going to kill yourself so that you're less of a burden to the rest of America?

I'm going to tell you what most people agree on when it comes to healthcare:
>not knowing what you will have to pay is bullshit
>having in-network vs out-of-network at the same hospital, or even individuals that may be out-of-network, so that your bill explodes with out of network costs EVEN IF YOU WENT TO AN IN-NETWORK HOSPITAL
>pre-existing conditions not being covered is fucked and always will be fucked

>>134922176
This guy is speaking some sense, especially about trying to make emergency care something you use in an EMERGENCY and not for small shit, which raises the prices and costs.

>>134929363
>what's a better name for a panel of professionals that dictate who does and doesn't receive rationed life saving medical care
This was not mentioned in any bill, proposed or approved.

"death panels" cam from a misunderstanding where counseling would be provided at no charge for families of terminally ill patients.

>>134929747
>Gee, why do you think faggot.
Did not answer the question
>Congrats on being a welfare leech. When are you going to kill yourself so that you're less of a burden to the rest of America?
How am I a welfare leech?

>>134912903
It is called the ACA, idiots called it Obamacare as a derogatory nickname

>>134929763
>pre-existing conditions not being covered is fucked
Those people need to look up the word "insurance" in a dictionary. Handouts from the government for chronic illnesses should be dealt with separately

>>134912939
Because they're racist and unintelligent

>>134929400
This is a problem so many americans face and we have no clear solution to it.

This is why drumpfs plan to bring all the low skill labor factory high school education not required jobs is fucking stupid.

Americans as well as most of the civilized world wants quality jobs. Comfy jobs. Jobs that say "if you get injured at work we got you covered" Jobs that have safety regulations so you dont get ground up in a fucking meat grinder.

But all of this is "expensive".If trump brings back jobs prepare for them to look similar to what they are doing in china right and veit right now.

No health coverage, No safety, shit pay, but at least we got muh jobs back.

I genuinely feel sorry for you anon. If you're working you should be getting cared for if something were to happen.

>>134909508

One more time for you goddamn thick as shit millennials:

Health Insurance is NOT Health Care.

Stop buying useless shit like iphones, starshit's coffee, big screen TV's and the rest of that shit and start paying for your own healthcare.

Fucking self-entitled assholes...

>>134914636
If he wanted war with Assad the gas strikes and resulting missiles would have been the start of the invasion, not a big nothingburger.

>>134909508
>gives you the freedom to start your own business

As long as you have under 50 employees you dumb nog

>>134913311
Just so you know, repealing Obamacare will likely raise your premiums as well. It doesn't matter that you have it through your job. Once the healthcare market is fucked to oblivion, were all dealing with it

>>134930078
maybe if a job is too dangerous you should just quit

>>134930278
>Obamacare will likely raise your premiums as well.
mandates raise costs
single healthly males are much cheaper to insure

>>134909508

Jokes on you, Hans, I haven't had health insurance in over ten years. *knock on wood*

>>134926453
sauce?

>>134930278
Fucking retards can't think more than a few hours ahead, sadly. If the ACA is repealed the insurance market is going to explode and they'll still be bitching about how it's all Obama's fault.

>>134914479
What's her site? I'm into fart sniffing art for females

>>134909508

YES, THAT'S WHAT WE WANT. WE'VE BEEN TELLING YOU FUCKS THAT FOR YEARS. WE DO NOT WANT HEALTHCARE. I WOULD RATHER GO BANKRUPT THAN PAY SOME KIKES HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS A MONTH FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE FOR "INSURANCE".

>>134912711

It really is. More and more of these urgent care places are popping up and they are best dollar for value.

>have a job, pay $40 a week in insurance
>get sick, go to doctor, oh just copays lol
>get a bill a few months later
>owed $900 after insurance
>then paying $160 a month and didn't get jack shit for it

Quit job, no insurance:

>go to urgent care center
>pay $125 cash
>get seen immediately, get tests done, steroid shot
>get two prescriptions filled out at the urgent care center, including some of that good ole dxm cough syrup
>cost for both medicines: $25.

No monthly insurance payments, and I paid roughly what I'd pay with a month's insurance. If I ever have to go to an ER, I just won't pay and it'll get wrote off eventually. It's not a big deal.

>>134930045
The reason its fucked is because pre-existing condition ends up becoming a way for the insurance companies to jew people out of insurance for literally everything. Because you can be denied for pre-existing conditions, they create a thick book of things they consider pre-existing conditions. They will look for everything they can to prevent people from getting insurance. Only 100% good goys who can manage to avoid every one of their bullshit "conditions" will manage to get insurance, because they are the lowest of the lowest of the low risk.

>>134930525
Please tell me how mandates lower costs
Why should I have to buy a plan the covers crap like mental health?

>>134930148
I sort of agree with this,
Consumer goods like iphones and tvs are useless.
but using the millennials are le are so self entitled meme is so played out.

>>134930297
People have to do those dangerous jobs as robots arent ready to do such jobs yet, if everyone went through with an idea like this the world would be a much different place.

Some people have to work shitty dangerous jobs, it would just be nice if we can make it a little safer for the people who have to work them.

>>134913311
>>134913921
>>134915772
>>134916768
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>>134926587
>>134928923
>>134929297
>>134929306
A bit of ammo for you burgerbro.
I live and... gasp... work! In Denmark, constantly meme'd a socialist paradise by Bernie Braindead.
And guess what, socialized public healthcare is HUGE, both in terms of what in cast, but, also in what is done.
Yet still, a lot of people have private insurance to back it up (I do) and even more workplaces simply pay for you to go to a private hospital to have your ingrown toenail fixed or whatever, simply because when it's all added up, it's way cheaper than have you on sick leave for 18 months until Dr. "vulnerable social groups must come first" deside that you can have a turn on the operating table.
I shit you not, if you have a job here, the system bumps you down the line as long as it's not imminently life threatening because (((you have other options)))

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Why shouldn't there be pre-existing condition? You do realize that's what insurance is right? You buy it for the case that you may get sick. Insurance companies aren't there to give insurance to people who are already sick you mong.

>>134930777
>People have to do those dangerous jobs
nobody has to do any job

>>134930810

>going to a hospital for an ingrown toenail

LOL

>>134915772
>thinking a job means he won't be effected
LOL

>>134930714
Its funny because if you look at health care before insurance really took over, roughly pre 1950 or so, paying with cash was king. People could afford to have call-in home visit doctors.

Insurance is a huge Jewish scheme to get people to pay for something they aren't sure they will use. Because a large company is now fronting the costs, this allows healthcare costs to skyrocket, because what a huge company can afford and what a person can afford are two different things. This allows Jews to funnel cash into their healthcare schemes.

>$700 phone
>$100 monthly phone plan
>$70 jeans
>$100 shoes
>vapes weed
>cannot possibly afford health insurance

>>134909508
I don't. I pay for my own. Fuck everyone else.

Yes, I HOPE Trumpcare destroys my current shitty Obamacare plan. I WANT to lose this awful useless "coverage" and actually buy something useful.

>>134930439
You're fooling yourself if you think it doesn't effect you

>>134930761
Because sometimes mental conditions can manifest themselves in circumstances you can't predict. Considering you seem to already have a mental condition that's probably why you can't understand that.

>>134930719
Unfortunately people have never experienced pre-ACA healthcare so they can't understand how pre-existing conditions was used as a way to get out of paying out ANYTHING.

I already don't have healthcare. Until it's affordable and provides 100% coverage I'll just roll the dice.

$300+ a month with a $7,500 deductible, doesn't cover office visits, doesn't cover visits to specialists, doesn't cover medications, etc is the "cheapest" plan I can get around here. Useless.

>>134909508
Who gives a shit about a bunch of dead amerifats? I say good desu

>>134909508
>(((Sorensen)))

>>134931284
Once you hit your 30's those dice become loaded, just to let you know.

>>134930148
>if you stop buying avocado toast you could buy a house
>if you stop buying avocado toast you could pay for healthcare out of pocket

Anything else I could pay for with for the price of a coffee a day? An african child? My own lobbyist?

>>134931086
>stupid people have their priorities out of whack
I have a shitty health insurance policy through my employer
At least I only paid $30 for a chest xray and an EKG examination a couple years ago

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>>134930962
LOL all you want. I picked that one because someone here had to have his lower leg amputated because he kept getting bumped down for treatment at the early, non surgery requiring stages. Then when when it got to the stage of pic related, they still bumped him to the back of the line, because he had work and had personal resources and besides, drug addicts were much more likely to die from the infections, so they had to come first. When it finally became his turn, no more foot or lower leg. In Bernies socialist paradise.

>>134909508
I don't have healthcare, I did before the ACA fucked that up though.
That said Trumpcare is just rebranded Obamacare so I don't expect anything to fucking change.

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Obamacare is free for Mexicans

>>134931273
It raises cost for catastrophic plans the only thing I would be interested in buying
>>134931274
Mental health is a secular humanist scam
>>134930777
If nobody does them then they will have to make them safer

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And under Trumpcare, they get free sauna visits.

>>134914446

You're wrong. The cost of premiums FAR exceed what most healthy young people pay in actual medical costs through the year, and that's just for the baseline catastrophic plan. If you want a plan that you can actually use when sick, you pay out a ludicrous amount of money in premiums.

>>134931855
This is sad and disgusting, it seems there is no real medium or middle ground we can find. Ether you're experimented on or you get these calculated robotic idea of a queue system.

>Drug addicts come first before working people

Honestly disgraceful

>>134914636
>war with Assad
>stops CIA funding to Syrian rebels

He just helped Assad out massively while the war is coming to it's final stages and the rebels are in a terrible position, what are you talking about nigger?

>>134932018
I bet you're a schizophrenic.

>>134928495
I hate communists stealing my money and making everything worse.

>you le hate people

Fuck off.

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>>134925889
like this?

>>134932514
not an argument
I dont want to pay for you to talk to someone about your imaginary problems

>>134930522
Think something I saw on knoema

>>134909508
Good, i was already forced out of mine because they want a completely healthy person such as myself to pay $500 a month so you lazy pieces of shit can have it for free. Now maybe healthcare can be affordable again.

>>134932911

i don't even care if it's affordable again. i just love seeing obama's legacy ripped out from underneath his grinning nigger ass.

>>134909508
Was 99% of the US without healthcare before obamacare?

>>134932321
>Drug addicts come first before working people
Sad but true. But after they amputated his leg because of a stupid ingrown nail, he's probably not a working man any more (that shit is often caused by way too many hours on your feet wearing steel capped safety shoes). Hopefully he didn't tail spin too badly, but he has got a better chance of first in line treatment for anything that a working man now.
He sued of course. The state acquitted the the state health care of any and all responsibilities. They had made the right priorities.
source
https://nordjyske.dk/nyheder/nedgroet-negl-blev-dyr/5efbd1eb-a211-4281-9410-d5f16000510c
it's in Danish, but jewgle translate usually manage readable translations from Danish to English.

>>134933125
I like that too, but im more pissed about the fact that i have to pay for tyrones fucking nigger insurance payment.

Unrelated to your response, all of you dumb niggers saying millions of people will die, you do understand that a hospital CANNOT refuse service to someone in critical condition. So keep being a poor piece of shit that does nothing for society but milk off of those who actually work for a living.

>>134909508
Good, I'm forced to buy insurance that I don't want, and pay way too much.

>>134909508
>Insures millions
Nice meme, but most of the people who will "lose" their insurance didn't want it in the first place and were forced to get it under threat of penalization by Commissar Obongo of Kenya
>Gives you the freedom to start your own business
This doesn't even qualify as a meme, more like delusion. Obamacare has been a disaster for businesses at just about every level, just astounding the fantasy world liberals live in.
>Covers care for poor women
Because abortions = women's health right? My tax dollars shouldn't be paying for it in any case.
>Attempts to address healthcare crisis
And does nothing of the sort. Healthcare =/= Insurance, which is the biggest problem with obongocare, conflating the two. All obama did was stuff the pockets of the insurance companies while doing nothing to address the underlying problems driving up costs (tort reform anyone?). Even if we accepted that insurance coverage was the central issue obamacare fails on that count too. A number of states have only one health insurance provider (I thought giving corporations a monopoly was a bad thing libcunts) and some counties don't have any options available.
>Not as good as single payer
Cause single payer has worked out so terrifically everywhere it's been implemented right? (RIP Charlie)
>Saves lives
Source needed. Considering how few people can get to their doctors and how incredibly inefficient the bureaucracy has made things lives are almost certainly at risk under obamacare.

I

NEVER

WANTED

THE

FUCKING

INSURANCE

FUCK OBAMA'S COMMUNISM.

Let's make a list for people who should get free healthcare
>Cannot do drugs, smoke cigarettes or drink
>Cannot eat fast food
>Cannot be more than 20 lbs overweight
>Must have a full time job
>Cannot have children (considering you cant fucking afford healthcare)
>Cannot have any debt

Feel free to add to my list for those who can qualify for free shit, i would also include this list for food stamps and any other kind of government assistance.

I pay $100 a paycheck for my insurance. My employer doesn't pay shit. I won't lose any you statist retard

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>>134909508
>tfw the threat of obamacare being repealed made my company's health insurer offer us a better plan

>>134929363
Serious question;
if you have only a limited number of life-saving medical supplies, and a surplus of people who need those supplies what other option is there than to dedicate a few people to prioritization of assets?

Hypothetically of coure, 'death panels' aren't real.

>>134909916
And /thread the first post

>>134933699
>Because abortions = women's health right? My tax dollars shouldn't be paying for it in any case.

Unless you argue for no welfare at all (which is a fair argument), you should be in favor of paying for abortions, otherwise you'll pay far more in welfare for that kid over its lifespan than you ever would have for the abortion. Abortion primarily is used by blacks and mexicans. Anybody wanting to make it harder to abort and also not want to pay for them is begging for droves of poverty level black and mexican babies.

>>134909508
I don't even know what Obanacare is.

I work a Union Job and all I know is that healthcare is fucked.

What I really want to know is, is paying private health insurance to cover you in the case of extreme illness bluepilled?

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>>134909508
>rural retards that voted for Trump will loose their health care when Obama care is repealed
Good. Serves them right for voting against there best interest. This is why white trash shouldn't be allowed to vote same as niggers. Neither have the mental capacity to think for themselves let alone make decisions regarding society.

>>134933894
Full time job and 3 any other options on your list, not all, just 3-any-other. And we have determined that the subject can easily afford healthcare insurance and need no gibs in that field.

>>134929363
>>134934085
That's what triage is for.

>>134930714
>If I ever have to go to an ER, I just won't pay and it'll get wrote off eventually. It's not a big deal.
Literally degenerate. And your expenses are passed onto taxpayers, which is more or less what the ACA did. If everyone just relied on emergency room visits and said "fuck it" afterward the healthcare system really would collapse within a few years. It isn't viable in any way. This is what people were saying when they said the ACA isn't perfect but it's at least a place to start. Also have fun if you or anyone you care about ever get cancer or have a heart attack or get in a car accident or have to get surgery for anything, which eventually have about a 100% chance of happening. And then have fun financing anything after going bankrupt and having horrible credit.

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>>134909508
Obamacare is a scam. Instead of helping the working man the ACA is...
>Giving faggots free and highly subsidized HIV meds
>Giving children with hemophilia millions a year in care.
>Giving women more coverage for the same price, made it illegal to charge women more despite costing over 30% more to insure
>Gives fat fucks diabetes meds instead of just letting them die.

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>>134927729
This better?

>>134934705
Nigger we have private insurance. Our shit isn't going to be affected and our premiums are likely to go down. It's called personal responsibility. You should try it sometime. Libs are just mad that we voted against their interests.

>>134931086
>Work all summer to pay college tuition

>Homeowner by 25

>Jobs everywhere and can walk in and ask if their hiring

>Promoted by boss for my hard work

>Health Care

>Retired

vs.

>30k Student Loan Debt

>Living Month to month in apartment with roomate or living with parents because even cuck shacks owned by boomers won't let them go for >$200,000.00

>"Entry" level jobs require 1-5 years experience and are dead end

>Promotions non-existent for blue collars because "you're too valuable an asset to take off the field"

>King nigger makes healthcare too expensive and fines you when you can't afford it

>retiring is all but a meme for this generation

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>>134913255
>Implying the Germans dont get 30% of there income taxed to pay for the free gibs the rapfugees take.

>>134911906
>Thinks that Obama's legacy is just in healthcare

You have no idea what is coming lol.

Obama basically has caused a terminal leftward shift in the US, there's more liberals now than there has been for decades and basically killed off most of the blue dogs. It's to the point where the most popular politician is a man who openly calls himself socialist, is a Jew and doesn't seem to have any fear of God in him.

The obstructionism the GOP had engaged in for so long basically discredited the centrists, expect a even more leftist populace to take over after Trump.

Just like what happened after the Bushes. Society is going leftward constantly, the right hasn't really one shit to stop it culturally. Political obstructionism is all the right has.

What happens to your average burger once Obongocare fails/dies?

>>134936129
That's funny the first half of your post is what I did/am doing and I'm a millennial.

>lose healthcare i dont have


WEW

>>134909508
This garbage made the price of my adderall go up higher than street value for a bottle. Fucking niggers think they can gubberment

>>134936315
Liberals will lose health insurance. Working republicans won't see a difference because we have health insurance. Trailer trash right wingers won't either because they didn't have coverage/file taxes to be penalized for no coverage in the first place.

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>>134909508
Good, now maybe more people will wake up and take care of themselves through finding better opportunities that actually give benefits unlike the NiggerCare

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>>134914446
>>134932309
the cheapest most shit tier health plan I could get in CA was fucking 200 bucks a month. I hate how I was charged a $200 dollar tax just for existing and want that shit repealed

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>>134932739
for 90% of mental health problems people used to talk to their priest for free but now (((pyschologists))) want to charge you assloads just to chit chat

>>134914758
sadly this

>>134936920
my friend got on Obamacare at $250/mo. Literally what red pilled her. That and graduating and getting a job and seeing where her money was going.

When I entered the insurable workforce you could insure yourself for $28/mo or a family for $180/mo. $250/mo for individual is ridiculous.

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>be a dumb retard degenerate with no job like the rest of my friends
>none of us have insurance
>get my shit together and get a big boy job with health insurance right before obamacare kicks in
>get pretty good health insurance
>dont think much about obamacare
>just learned recently that a buddy of mine, who is unemployed, is expected to pay $300 a month for his student loans and almost $200 a month for his health insurance
>mfw

the worst part is that he think boinee sandahs is going to come back from the grave and solve all his problems

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>>134909508
I am already uninsured BECAUSE of Obamacare. How can you possibly convince me that I won't be better off under Trump's plan, let alone that I am better off than I was when I still had my catastrophic coverage plan?

Democrats will keep losing elections for as long as they refuse to understand why we support Trump's policies.

>>134914479
My understanding is that under Obamacare she just has to offer them all a plan. I don't believe it means she has to pay for 100% of the premiums. She could just say she'll cover 50 dollars per month per employee and let them cover the rest and choose their own plans.


Unless I'm mistaken... but that's been my understanding. And that's only for full time employees (anyone working 30 hours or more... however the dumb thing is that the way it's calculated is that you take the number of total hours worked by all employees and divide by the number of employees that you have. So if you have 3 guys working 20 hours a week and everyone else is working 40-47 hours a week with overtime... then you still might be forced to cover those 3 guys if the average still comes out to more than 30 hours a week per employee. Pretty ridiculous)

>>134912711

>pay $1800/yr for high deductible plan just for me
>deductible is another $1800 before they pay out
>what should be a $200 doctor visit costs me $2000
>faggots like you think this is saving me money

Eat shit.

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