ITT we discuss Portuguese culture, politics, and state of affairs

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Bumping for longest ally

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RIP Lisbon

>>134876427
Damn...

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>>134876427
Graças a Deus que somos "atrasados", mesmo assim não impedimos o país de cair nas mâos destes traídores filhos da puta que tomaram rédeas de Portugal, mas não sofremos tanto como certos países ditos "avançados"

>Portugal

It sucks, people hate each other, refugees flee the place, politicians are corrupt and women are goblins.

Bye.

Mesmo sendo um país atrasado económicamente e financialmente, a saudade do grande Império Português dá-me dor no caração.

>almost forgot

Heres the "restauration anthem" (instrumental version) or, as I like to call it, "fuck the spaniards!"

>srls, the anthem is about fucking the spanish

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPvaNBwl8aM

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>>134874871
Good afternoon, Portubros.

Are you good catholics?

>>134878043
>Refugees flee the place.
I think i'm missing something here. Since when is that a bad thing?

>>134878968
FUCK MAN!!!! ANDRE VENTURA FOR PM!!!!

>>134879994
We are so shit refugees don't want us

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>>134880714
They want Central/Northern Europe gibsmedats, Muslim/Levantine community together and mosques.

>>134874871
What's the point of this thread? It's always the same thing on repeat.

bump for spainbro

>>134874871

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wllgcVwtKxo

>"I owe to Providence the grace of being poor: without goods that are worth to me, I am not bound to the wheel of fortune, nor have they ever made me promisses of profitable places, riches, ostentations. And to earn, in the modesty, that I lived, the daily bread, I do not have to get entangled in the plot of business or compromising solidarity. I am an independent man.

>I have never set eyes on political clienteles or sought to form a party to support me, but instead, to pay for their support by defining the political orientation and limits of government action. I have never flattered men or the masses, before whom so many bow in the world today, in subserviences that are a hypocrisy or an abjection. If I defend their interests tenaciously, if I take care of the claims of the humble, it is by their own merit and the imposition of my conscience as ruler, not by partisan connections or electoral commitments that hinder me. I am, as far as I can be, a free man.

>I never used insult or aggression so that worthy men would consider themselves unable to cooperate. In examining the sad periods that preceded us, I always endeavored to demonstrate how poorly the qualities of men were against the implacable force of the errors they were obliged to serve. And it is not my fault, if after twenty years of a luminous experience, they themselves continue to present themselves as entirely responsible for the previous debacle, since they are content to proclaim the goodness of the principles and their correct application to the Portuguese Nation. I was human.

>>134881961

> think I have gained, thanks to serious work, my academic degrees, the right to perform my university functions. Forced to lose contact with the sciences I cultivated, but not with the methods of work, I can say that I have found them again from the angle of your practical application; And, leafing through the books less, I labored in years of study, of meditation, of intense action, of better understanding of men and of life. I was able to clarify myself.

>I have no ambitions. I do not wish to rise higher, and I understand that in due time another should come to take my place, to offer the Nation's service greater capacity for work, to tear new horizons, and to try new ideas or methods. I can not boast, for I have not fulfilled all that I desired; But I have done enough to not be able to say that I failed in my mission. I do not feel the bitterness of those who deserved or undeservedly did not see their efforts crowned and curse men and luck. I do not even remember having received offenses that in compensation induce me to be less fair or impartial. On the contrary, in this country, where public men are so slightly appreciated and depreciated, I enjoy the rare privilege of general respect. I was able to serve.

>(...rants about the role of the nation and comunism...)

Fuck this shithole. I'm glad I'm moving to America next year, gonna enlist in the marines. Sick of this moor-filled 3rd world country.

>>134881290
Exactly. The Last was about Tancos arms robbery and none dared to research for news in the media or discuss it. they are just bringing memes and copy pastas from New State and Monarchy. Some don't even speak English in contrary to /pol/ board rules.

>>134882220
most portuguese dont look brown. chill.

>>134882220
>I'm glad I'm moving to America next year, gonna enlist in the marines
You can do that!?

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>>134876427

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

HOW THE FUCK IT´S THEIR FAULT? PUNISH THOSE VIRTUE SIGNALNG FUCKS THAT ABANDON THEIR ANIMALS THAT VOTED FOR THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE!

>>134874871
>brazilians not invited
Portugal became horribly irrelevant after you provoked the independence. Don't dismiss the best part of the old empire.

>>134882501
Yes, you can enlist with a green card. What you can't do is become an officer.

>>134880714
Baza daqui caralho são mouros como tu que me dão a volta á barriga. Ainda por cima acabei de comer uma bela de uma alheira com um bom vinho a acompanhar mouro da merda pó crl

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>>134882610
>you provoked the independence

Sadly it´s true, not the rest tough, best part was without doubt asia

>>134882888
maybe the coolest but not nearly as rich or with a great potential for the future. what could have we been if we stood together.

anyway why do you hate us so much? we share blood, culture and history.

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>>134874871
Sol Interview with andré Ventura
Archived link (archive.is) and translated to English: http://archive.is/D2NpI
Original source: https://sol.sapo.pt/artigo/572564/andre-ventura-os-ciganos-vivem-quase-exclusivamente-de-subsidios-do-estado

>>134882610
>>134883369

Brasil is a broken free extent of "Portugal". The corpse leftover is Portugal.

Both went into shit. If Brasil pulled a United States on Portugal you would've been first world by now.

>>134883491
Man I would just love to see some real numbers here's the x amount of gypsies in Loures and the Y amount of them live on subsided. That's the only piece of info we need

Why are Portuguese people on /pol/ so fucking depressive. Go out and make the country great again ffs

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>>134883369
I don't speak for the OP but Hues often derail /pp/ threads: either diaspora either Brazilian flags. We talk about some of low class diaspora that comes here and that brings crimes.

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>>134883682
>Why are Portuguese people on /pol/ so fucking depressive.

Can someone tell him?

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Went to spain/portugal. More gypsies in your countries than in Romania/Bulgaria/Ukraine/Macedonia combined.

shitholes.

>>134881961
>>134882020
I love hearing this man speak. Such a shame he's gone. However, I'm glad he's not here to see what our country has become. I'm pretty sure he'd be devastated. ;~;

>>134883369
>we share blood, culture and history

At least half of you don´t, that plus the kids that were indoctrinated by socialist teatchers, ranting on us as "opressors and robbers and shiet", plus most brazillian imigrants here are either whores or poor and so on so on...

I do believe tough that it´s a consequence of the modern era and affirmitive action that these exposure of idiots happens, these morons are allowed to have computers whereas it used to be meritocratic, and imigration to

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>>134883880
>More gypsies in your countries than in Romania/Bulgaria/Ukraine/Macedonia combined.
Impossible. Another American speaking from the butt.

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>>134883682

It´s literally genetic douchebag

>I cant believe you did it

>>134883834
>muh shithole
>muh Costa
>muh corruption
Do something about it. Look at how Taiwan and South Korea looked in the 1980s, they were decades behind Portugal. Look at them nowadays. Do something. Engage in politics. Create enterprises. Did you know that 84 % of Portuguese oranges in 2014 were exported under Spanish labels?

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>>134883369

Because Brazil is pic related.

Portugal and Spain are European, with european food, european sentiments, european manners and mannerisms, european bureaucracy and government, european identity, european culture, european arts and music, european architecture and religion.

Where will you find me a Baroque Lute Luthier in Brazil?

Brazil is south american mexicans but with more crime, more murder, and more blacks. Horrible.

>>134884254

Yes we know anon, and lot more shit, gob regulations castrate us and we can do jack shit, we have to wait for next elections now because it´s not under a socialist/comunist gob that it will change

Silly season is being bad for them, and i see a storm brewing in public education next

>>134874871
>Invited - former colonies
>Not invited - Brazilian's
wat

Anyways, why do Portuguese people hate gypsies?

>>134883494
When D. João came here, people got so excited that there were plans on expanding the empire by conquering the rebel Spanish colonies. With Portugal's navy and diplomatic skills, we'd at least get to keep Cisplatina and maybe grab some lands off of Argentina, would be cool. Also we wouldn't have signed such bad trade deals due to inexperience.

Maybe not as rich as the US, but we would be far more powerful nonetheless and completely dominant on the south Atlantic.

>>134883805
oh i see. don't hate us all though, we arent all cariocas or nordestinos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne1c-SDxHzY

What did the Germans mean by this?

>>134884499
Everyone hates gypsies, even swedecucks

>>134884212
>>134883834
>It's genetic.
Go fuck yourselves.

>>134884499

Everyone hates gypsies - they destroy every country they're in - and that all of Europe right now. Met a romanian girl in New York that almost started crying when she told me most people in Europe assume Romanians are gypsies, and she got fired from a bar in London because of it.

She looked white, with dirty blonde hair, but since Romani sounds like Romanian, people assume Romanians are all gypsies. She told me it was the main reason to change her name and move to the US.

Crazy how gypsies can ruin a white country like that.

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>>134884499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqWTTitg5RM

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>>134884442
Portuguese democracy has never worked, it doesn't work with the Portuguese mindset. It's a country of explorers, creators and pioneers, and not of sedentary 9-to-5 workers whose actions are independent from their government.

Yeah, you need to throw those Socialists out and at least reform your job market, along with better funding of school staff and more "inviting" conditions for companies to settle down there. There's so much to do and you guys can definitely do it, but you need to get the depression out of your collective mindset first.

>>134884758
Have you ever met Welsh or Irish gypsies? They are absolute scum tier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuMS3WRGIvQ

>>134884758
The "Romani" thing is literally by Soros. It's a succesful attempt to associate them witg Romania, Rome and Europe, even though they have nothing to do with any of those. The excuse is their word of people, bit it's pronounced goma.

>>134884442
>i see a storm brewing in public education next
Impossible. The only protests in public esucation are done by FENPROF, and FENPROF literally only does what PCP tells them to do. And PCP doesn't want to attach the government. Not now

They will only damage the government enough for things staying the way they were 2015. Their plan is for PS to win elections, but needing support of both BE and PCP to form a majority. BE wants to get rid of PCP so they can be part of government. None of them wants an absolute majority by PS, because that would completely destroy both BE and PCP

>>134884327
you know nothing about Brazil, burger. If you think this is nothing but a big ass favela filled with Africans, do yourself a favor and go suck a dick.

Brazil mirrored Portugal and France for a good century and half after the Independence, if nothing else it was you who contributed on un-europeizing (so to say) us by exporting your shit culture and ideologies. We became a republic due to your influence, after all.

>>134884908
Nope, Romani gipsies are even worse than Irish/welsh Travellers. They originated at North India, probably were low caste in India expelled.

>>134885070
Irish and Welsh gypsies enslave Eastern Europeans on farms. Rape them and torture/kill them. Romani's just steal things and shit in the streets.

>>134883682
I blame Fado and leftism.

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Can PPM be memed to replace PAN as the new Meme Party in the Assembley?

>>134884327

Someone photoshop the lil half-nog, half-polock kids head into that bowl. Please!

>>134885354
You have a beautiful country, surely that is enough to cheer you up? You've dodged the mass immigration bullet as well.

You could be a lot worse so just count your blessings.

>>134884651

Learn to take a joke

>>134884865

Gob needs to stay out of economy, politics and money together are always bad news, only a naive marxist cunt (of wich we are full) believes the state has self controll, they trully believe the state is God and not a person so the state doesnt need to steal

>>134884499
anyone with a brain hates gypsies, scum of the earth. the only people that dont have only seen them in 'the hunchback of notre dame'
when i first moved to stockholm, i thought there must be a government department which distributes the gypsies, as there is not a single supermarket without one sitting in front of it.

>>134884499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFs32C_qMeI

Welfare abuse, National Health System abuse, violent crime, illegal arms deals / drugs sales,...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFs32C_qMeI

>>134885466
I guess it's hard to understand some of us and why we're so depressed. You'd probably need to be born and raised here.
We dodged that bullet because we're broke. In fact, our country is broke on so many levels that we might as well just sell the rest of our country to you, Spain or China.
Do whatever the fuck you want with this crap. Good luck with the commies and the leftists.

>>134885354
Nuke the Alentejo desu, fucking commie factory

>>134885485
State capitalism is a good to make things head into the right direction, you can't go from your current model of state socialism to a fully open, liberal market without it becoming some kind Eastern European shithole with neoliberal policies.

>>134886149
is a good starting point* fuck

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>>134885396

Sure thing my fellow nip. Took 3 mins. Hope you like. Daily reminder: Even the worst shithole brazilians are superior to asians.

>>134875746
Greatest Ally.

>>134876427
kek. Lisbon deserves this. I'm actually in favor of bullfighting just to trigger these chicken hugging commies.

>>134878968
Guy is a retard, he's just saying this shit for shock value and to get on TV.

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>>134874871
>>134883491
>>134884499
Part II about the Gipsies

>>134885396
>menorah
Really made me think

Why are the Portuguese normal but other Iberians autistic weirdos like the Spanish, Catalans and Basques?

t. works in a place where half the people are Portubros

>>134884977

>Povo a reclamar que não há vagas que chegue nos concursos
>O concurso atrasa-se e sabe-se através de fugas de informação, ainda não saíram tudo porque o governo anda a guardar informação
>Estão a adiar os concursos das creches e primárias, porque vão despedir educadoras, os putos vão para as privadas (as mesmas em que o monhé cortou)
>Andaram professores a trabalhar para subir escalões, querem repor tudo de novo para 2010, ou seja se eras 3 escalão em 2010 e subis-te para 5, voltas para 3 escalão, mantém em conta que as carreiras estiveram congeladas, ou seja não só muitos perdem anos de trabalho acérrimo para ser promovidos, alguns nunca terão recebido o aumento que era devido
>Para lidar com o último problema que referi, como disse estão a despedir funcionários, pois fizeram de bandeira as "reposições", mas mesmo assim só lá para Setembro de 2019

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I'm portuguese, despite the flag, and wish I was born in a cooler country, like Norway.

I try to like Portugal, I really do, but the country looks so uncool. It has history of pwning others and there's a quiet guy archetype, yes, but that's it. No cool stereotype like undeserving russians have, architecture doesn't look as cool as other europeans' (although I like it's distinction), music is tied to depression...

Despite the average folk seemingly not mirroring it, most famous people from Portugal look like fucking gypsies, italians or something I don't know. They're brown and ugly, pasty manlets. Goes to confirm the "portuguese are not white" memes, in spite of research identifying us as as white blooded as any other euro.
I wish my fellow countryman were cool aryans and angelic goddesses, or at least the famous folk were closer to it like the average folk.

>>134886149
>State capitalism is a good to make things head into the right direction, you can't go from your current model of state socialism to a fully open, liberal market without it becoming some kind Eastern European shithole with neoliberal policies.
No, we can't, we need to go on full neoliberal, no, full libertarian, for things to change. Corruption at high levels of the state is too deep in here. We need to clean it all swiftly

>>134886603
It doesn't matter: FENPROF won't allow any serious protests about it. The only way for it is to go independent of the sindicates, like in Venezuela, but I doubt it

If that same shit happened with Passos, it would be like Apocalypse had fallen on Earth

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>>134886436
> he's just saying this shit for shock value and to get on TV.

Loures is basically disputed by PS (Socialist Party - social democracy, pro-europeanism, third way) vs CDU (coalition of marxist-leninists hard-liners + their satellite/puppet ecologist party).

PSD bringing there a meme candidate it doesn't make a difference. At least it tries to test general population with populist view with his statements. It's a good case study for further electoral disputes.

>>134885466
Just so you can understand how bad our country is:
A person or a group of persons stole military weaponry from a weapons' cache facility which ought be heavily guarded and secured.
1 - There was no one guarding the weapons;
2 - The facility has an unfinished fence around it and the old one is weak, rusty and had holes;
3 - There was absolutely NO surveillance equipment installed.

WHAT KIND OF COUNTRY DOESN'T GUARD ITS OWN WEAPONS? ARE THESE PEOPLE FUCKING KIDDING?

This country is a fucking joke. No one cares about anything. No one cares about showing up on time. No one cares if their job is done right. Mediocrity is praised.

No one fucking cares about anything.

>>134886735
t. Ítalo-Paulista

>>134886149

Yes we can, we are a developed country alredy, we alredy have infrastructure built
The problem is political because the gob is used as steping stone to other public and private jobs, as such debts, taxes laws and all sort of shit they should enforce are not enforced, add to that social welfare and you have a public and private sector full of debts and on a constant cycle of losing money, cut on the less productive shit and lower taxes, while imposing a pro portuguese proteccionist economic policy (instead of a EU one) and we get back on our feet

as of portuguese and italian descent i demand an invitation to post on this thread

>>134886738
Going full neolibtard just turns you into new Romania. Collectivist people will directly turn their backs if they see it going from one extrem to another, and if anything this only triggers a new, even more socialist state. And this also makes corruption worse.

>>134886735
Portuguese architecture is really cool though. It's probably one of the smallest territories with it's own very distinctive architecture imho.

>>134887057
I heard a bit of how interview today and he sounded like a complete retard. That's what I'm saying.

Still it might be good for the lulz and butthurt gypsies

>portugal
>relevant

>>134886969

True

hello

>>134887236
see >>134887326, this will just trigger the leftist part of the country go definitely retard and it just enhances corruption. It's exactly what happened in several Balkan countries.

Protectionism doesn't work if your productivity and average education is low, especially with braindrain is severe and you don't fucking fund education.

with = when
autocorrect is really awful

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>>134887144
>WHAT KIND OF COUNTRY DOESN'T GUARD ITS OWN WEAPONS?
I've seen a quick report on RTP3 that weapons theft also happens in other bases in Europe. Not praising mediocrity, I also got mad.

That RTP report, other statements from Armed Forces and defense minister: it was 34k euros in weaponry stolen, some of weapons
https://www.google.pt/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwj-gLvb56TVAhUJbBoKHaegBj4QFggoMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fexpresso.sapo.pt%2Fpolitica%2F2017-07-11-Tancos-Parte-do-material-de-guerra-roubado-tinha-esgotado-prazo-de-validade&usg=AFQjCNHXx6DVtGbLIyQzaAdnzbaUFtLJ-Q had Expired expiry date, some were scheduled to be destroyed, etc - to lower the anger of general population.

>>134886141
>Went to Portugal about 15 years ago
>Stayed in some based villa in the hills
>The road leading up to it was full of sheds
>Eventually realised they weren't sheds (or maybe they still were), but people were living in them
>Notice that villa only has like a 2 foot wall around it
>Don't get any sleep

Were they gypsies or just poor? Everyone in the actual town was cool, but these roadside people not so much.

>>134887898
Same shit happened in France last year, it's not that rare.

>>134887656
>poland

Shithole country as well. Fits in nicely on a portugal/spain/brazil thread.

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>>134887922
Did they looked like pic related - physically? Skin tone equal to some Indians?

>>134888358
Skin tone was very similar, but I just assumed they were dirty. They had hens and whatnot in the houses(?) that's why I thought they were sheds/coops. Few women and no children around though, it seemed to be mainly men in their 40s onward.

>>134887563

Says the pot to the kettle.

>>134887922
If the sheds were made from some than it wasn't gypsies.

>>134887656
Hi Poland bro.

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>>134888591
definitely gypsies m8

>>134888739
>>134887922

Stone

>>134888787
Definitely explains why the place next door had four rottweilers roaming their grounds.

>>134888804
Nah not stone, senpai. It was just wood and corrugated iron. I'm 90% sure there wasn't even windows. We didn't get any trouble or anything and everyone else was really cool, I just thought it was odd.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkdTtC3qlyg
"""First assumed gay gipsies""" case in the Roma community in Portugal kek

>>134887702

Portuguese people works hard as shit, but it´s more productive outside the country, because they get paid better and the conditions are different


My idea is simple

>First proclaim a republican dictatorship envoking Caesar
>Second rot out the free mason and marxist scum while cleaning the debt and all social welfare, replacing it with other institutions
>Third slowly democratize making a presidential republic (only personal that served the army would be allowed to become president), with a senate made by the local presidents of districts and juntas or councils, that would serve in senate, they would enact democracy on a local level and gather in the senate like the previous cortes, to avoid creating a class of "democracy makers" and finnaly a assembly of judges with the sole purpose of ficalizing the law

One president for all, 1 deputy for each 10.000 inhabitants (the more the harder it is to corrupt or to undermine the presidential authority) and 6 to 8 of the best judges of the country to the assembly, it there are no judges good enough, if abstentions is high, then those are vaccant seats

Economy wise, we are doing that despite left wing gob mascarading it´s taxes as progressive stuff, we we´re doing it faster with PSD tough

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NK4O002HpJI

>>134889019
It was either Gypsies or cattle then. Either way it was animals.

>>134889079
They should check out Sweden.

>>134889454
close your borders to africans too, bro

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>>134889454
>Portuguese people works hard as shit, but it´s more productive outside the country, because they get paid better and the conditions are different
That hasn't much to do with getting better paid. The "different conditions" are just a way of not admitting that you need a job reform.

Also I don't think your idea would work at all. If anything it would make corruption and bureaucracy worse. The last thing this country needs is a rigid and unnecessary hierarchy.

I liked the former Prime-Minister's idea of indexing the National Minimum Salary to the country's productivity.

>>134889939

Motivation is important, and good paid jobs are motivating, but taken into account the taxes it´s not the primary factor, for starters end this technicality bullshit to get a job, i´ve been asked a CV for a sumer time job now twice, only one of the 3 places hasn´t done that
Degrees are more paid due to regulations and not productivity, unemployement and promotions freezed in public sector make promotions rarer than a comet
Public companies are like eucaliptus sucking small business and make it less likely for big companies to come here, promoting in that way, a monopoly held by the inneficient hand of the state
I think i could go on

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>>134890549
aprende a falar inglês moço.

>>134884865

Portugal should lead the world in space exploration. Send Joao to Mars!

>>134890667

Don´t you have a old english pensionist to bath nurse?

>>134890549
>Motivation is important, and good paid jobs are motivating
Motivation doesn't rise effectively enough just with better paid jobs though. On the contrary, it can make people become even lazier, since they're getting too much for what they're working.

>for starters end this technicality bullshit to get a job, i´ve been asked a CV for a sumer time job now twice, only one of the 3 places hasn´t done that
...what? This is a nigger tier argument, CVs are common everywhere and just a single sheet you have to give so that companies can have everything they need to know about you on their paper. Using this as an argument for not being motivated to work is literally Nigeria tier retardation.

>Degrees are more paid due to regulations and not productivity, unemployement and promotions freezed in public sector make promotions rarer than a comet
source? I can tell your for sure that this is not the case at all.

>Public companies are like eucaliptus sucking small business and make it less likely for big companies to come here, promoting in that way, a monopoly held by the inneficient hand of the state
That's just state controlled companies you're talking about. If you worried less about fucking CVs and more about putting up your own business you wouldn't have a problem with that, Portuguese state businesses are unproductive as fuck and easy to beat if you're not illiterate.

>>134890671
A company based in Luxembourg founded by Portuguese expats is currently working on asteroid mining. The spirit definitely is there, but people in their home country have to get their excuses and lazyness out of their mind to succede.

>>134874871
when making a cooperative team to fight fires in the forest?

>>134891121
>Motivation doesn't rise effectively enough just with better paid jobs though. On the contrary, it can make people become even lazier, since they're getting too much for what they're working.

I admited it, it´s good having motivated people, but that´s not priority, it should be productivity, would the productivity rise and the proffit to, then an increase migth also be fair

>...what? This is a nigger tier argument, CVs are common everywhere and just a single sheet you have to give so that companies can have everything they need to know about you on their paper. Using this as an argument for not being motivated to work is literally Nigeria tier retardation.

Why need a CV for a sumer time job? Really? It´s suposed to be temporary and low skilled jobs, and this wans´t an argument for low motivation, it was a argument for flexible reforms

>Degrees are more paid due to regulations and not productivity, unemployement and promotions freezed in public sector make promotions rarer than a comet

Don´t have sauce on first part and i admit i could have it wrong, but the latter it´s true, many people saw their incomes frozzen in the sense that they didn´t get promoted with higger wages, since not paying is not an option, even workers in experience are paid, even without contract

>That's just state controlled companies you're talking about. If you worried less about fucking CVs and more about putting up your own business you wouldn't have a problem with that, Portuguese state businesses are unproductive as fuck and easy to beat if you're not illiterate.

It´s hard to compete with companies that get tax payer money (like EDP wich is private now but it´s still receiving) while you have to support all costs of your entrepise

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>>134891519
We need fight back thelobby of wood industry
http://archive.is/z1HxX
Prevention is the first step.

>>134892229
productivity doesn't rise at the same rate as the earnings, it just works for some time. Portuguese people are already way overpaid for what they do, that's what makes them very unproductive.

>Why need a CV for a sumer time job? Really? It´s suposed to be temporary and low skilled jobs, and this wans´t an argument for low motivation, it was a argument for flexible reforms
companies want to choose the best candidates possible, to raise, you guessed it, productivity. Bitching about this is just retarded, you only need to make one and actualize it once you finished your job or a year has passed anyway.

>but the latter it´s true, many people saw their incomes frozzen in the sense that they didn´t get promoted with higger wages, since not paying is not an option, even workers in experience are paid, even without contract
I wasn't talking about the latter part, you're right there. I've seen people talking about this.

>It´s hard to compete with companies that get tax payer money (like EDP wich is private now but it´s still receiving) while you have to support all costs of your entrepise
It's complicated for new businesses if you're not prepared, in any case you need a backup in the means of investors (even Manuel Carvalho the 72 years old farmer can be one) and working together with other companies. That's why even """better""" countries farmers for example work in cooperatives together and use their equipments and machines together, tractors for example belong to cooperatives.

Again, I'm not saying it's easy anon, but there is definitely a good way to make the best out of it. Portugal has the ressources and the talent to make it work. I'm planning on buying some ha of arable land for fruit production near Aveiro as soon as my business has finished paying its credit debt off for example.

>>134883904
«eu não estou muito aflito porque a morte em breve evitará que tenha de me adaptar»
Salazar, 1967

http://biclaranja.blogs.sapo.pt/ide-populorum-progressionei-1169371

>>134893144

I know and i understand, but i still don´t think a CV should be required for such a small task, just give the kids 1 to 3 days of experience and if they are good go ahead, on the last part it´s true, it´s hard making a company here but it´s still possible, having investitors is important everywhere, but when you steal the money the old people was keeping (BES scandall) and then buy off the gob to shill for people to buy them bonds instead of investigating, when you overtax your people, it get hard having investitors

I have my ideas tough, i want to make wine and licours to sell to people, in the place i live wine is a big deal

On wages, the only thing i would change is the amount the state takes aways (lower it), since i understand how desctructive it can be to blindly increase minimum wage

>>134892442
This is bullshit because you are penalizing those who did nothing and actually follow the law. Forests owned by firms do not burn because they are properly maintained.

>>134884758
it doesnt sound like romanian
trust me, ive heard them speak in their shitty hindi ripoff several times

>>134893700
Yeah, that's again one of the main issues with the current working and social laws, they really need to be reformed. I wish you the best for your business idea anon, alcohol is high in demand. Just pay attention to the time it takes to make a profit out of it and to the fact that Portugal will lose its complete wine production before the end of this century, don't limit yourself to grapes only.

Discord PT: V76HAe

>tfw nunca te chamarás Lourenço Fernandes
>tfw nunca possuirás um IQ de 135
>tfw nunca penetrarás a Maria Caseiro enquanto ela pensa nos meets que teve com outros homens

JUST

>>134874871
Portugal was taken over by niggers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFpDaQnQQQo

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>>134893765
It's fucking easy to plant eucalyptus in Portugal. Even my father has some.
You can't compare to neighbouring Spain.

It happens in California and Australia.

>> actually follow the law.
Portucel. I'm not talking forests around settlements and house. This kind of plantation quickly spreads out like pic related.

http://observador.pt/2015/09/08/portucel-lamenta-ter-de-plantar-eucaliptos-em-mocambique-em-vez-de-portugal/

You plant these in compartiments in Portugal and not in a disorganised way.

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>>134896154
oh wow donde veio este thumbnail de merda

>>134895538
Again, the problem is that nobody knows who owns what, so the state can't even fine anyone; and the state itself leads by example by not enforcing anything nor maintaining what it owns.

Just sizing down the forests is ridiculous. It will just lead to more land abandonment. And someone needs to tell me why are these reforms on forestry being pushed through so quickly. This is supposed to be a long-term plan. We are managing our country like Africans do. We are making /pol/ memes true.

>>134883880
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>>134896236
stop posting porn

>>134893986

My mom knows how to make licours of many types of fruits, i learned a little bit with her, they taste sweet as fuck and always have the fruit flavour, i also tought of other shit but this would be my focus since i can grow and transform the crops myself for free
For now the biggest worry if fertile land, i could have some, were it not for my cunt mugrant uncles that have a land next to my house, they only want it to sell it but we are the ones who have to clean it

>>134896338
>Just sizing down the forests is ridiculous.
>This is supposed to be a long-term plan.
Start planting other species
Is Pinhal Norte Interior a Pinewood Forest or New Australia? It's not only that: it changes the composition of soils, etc.

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>>134896492
>porn
at least click on the picture, I have no idea where this shitty thumbnail comes from.

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>>134896932
i-it is porn

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>>134878043
Põe-te no caralho comuna de merda.

>>134896779
>Start planting other species
They will be planted only if 1) they are profitable or 2) they receive massive subsidies from the State. Given how the second option already turns our politicians into hungry niggers and we are still bankrupt, the best option is to enforce the fucking law.

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>>134898060
You literally don't know the height of these trees and therefore the projection that a fire gains. You can clean the mata around, fire starts burning from below, go upwards taking advantage of oil resin, etc. Again, I'm not talking about 50m - 100 m law and settlements.

Portugal CARALHO!!!

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>>134898351
Go to Galicia or Asturias to know % of eucalypts planted and compare with ours.

>>134882610
It feals good an entire ocean separats us from you.

>>134881955
wlcome brother

>>134884831
We must stop the non-european invasion into Portugal, before is to f late.

>>134888277
Not acceptable. Maybe for France it's normal, but we do not want it.

>>134898583
Tell me they have a strong paper industry as well and I'm willing to listen to you.

>>134874871

Protect the border's, revolke given citizenship to non-europeans, full jus sanguinis again, revert immigration and deport

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mnagRmzYTw

Also, re-invest in our industry, high tec I&D cooperation with universities and natality measures for portuguese people.

My waifu is a white Portuguese beaty descended from royalty.

Also this: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2017-07-24/women-in-portugal-are-forming-real-keijo-teams/.119265

You guys are alright

Source: German/ Italian

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>>134898157
>tfw your uncle got killed there four years later
feels BLACK'd man

>>134887057
PNr has representation there?

Bump. We iberians never have any threads.

>>134878968
>>134887496
>>134887057

Everything he's saying is true, though. And he got massive support from the average joe lol

>>134902293
Not questioning his reason. It wouldn't surprise me if he was a /pol/ack.

He just isn't very good at speaking and if you want to redpill the average Joe you have to be at least decent enough so people can't simply dismiss you as a racist.

>>134901667
You're kidding right? There's a Portuguese thread almost every day. Up until some months ago there were also several Spanish threads a week, but the one well known Spanish commie put them to sleep with his shitposting

>>134874871

"Universidade do Minho" loool

Really? Why are they VIP??

>>134903448
that's the point

the average Joe does not dismiss him as a racist. It's the cunts from Lisbon (e.g. "educated" tools, politicians, journalists) who frame the entire debate against what he said by claiming he's racist. And that's what you see in the media.

You will not believe the number of times I've heard these last few days: "but?!? Isn't it true? It's true!". This coming from people who either don't vote, or vote for PS/PSD/CDS.

>>134876427

So many reasons to burn Lisbon, this is what you present?

Lisbon guy here, please let's not burn our awesome capital.
Let's conquer it again!

>>134903917

Don't know. I wasn't impressed from what I saw, but he might get better with time and start to become a more well spoken individual. A kind of Portuguese Nigel Farage.

>>134878705

Greatest Ally, you're always welcome.

>>134881961

Long live Salazar!

>>134884571

You still can be. Once you make the King of Portugal Empror of Brazil again, the sky is the limit for you.

Search Tradição Pátria Senpaiília in Brazil...

Portugal is the Greece of Europe.

>>134884865

Actually, all we need is to follow the Asian model: Export, export, export.
Then, we follow the Irish model: Open to investment, lower the taxes, etc.

That alone would make the GDP triple in ten years.

>>134884327

Brazil has a lot to do with the U.S. for the European direction it took (no kidding). Only since the 60s has Brazil degenerated to the extention we see today.

You can found XVI and XVII century churches in the deep interior of Brazil modelled in the same way as Portuguese churches of the time. You can find whole vilages in Brazil modeled after Portuguese and German or Italian villages.

Rio de Janeiro is a Portuguese town in the tropics, before anything else, and it shows if you know where to look. Unfortunately, it is filled with ... zilians... It was not always the case.

>>134905467
The Irish model won't work since there is already Ireland nearby. But yes, Portugal needs investments and export stimulations. I'm doing my best to contribute with my business.

>>134884499

People bar Brazilians here because Brazilians are the only former colonials to show. Also, Brazilians tend to just shit on the thread and cause havoc.

I don't like pol/sters here to try to divide us and claim that Brazil is only 0,3% white and shit...
But Brazilians do tend to be stupid on Portugal threads.

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>>134905382
>The Greece of Europe
>Implying Greece is not part of Europe
>American """"""""""education"""""""""""
Kek

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When are we returning to the traditional colours of our country? The colours we had since before the founding of the kingdom. Not a monarchist btw

>>134887563
Who are you again?

>>134889454

"envoking Ceaser"

That was the best part of your political plan.

1 deputy for 10.000 inhabtants = 1030 deputies (really, members of parliament" for a country of 10,3 Millions.

>>134889939

A rigid hierarchy is necessary.

>>134890267

THE MOST UNDERRATED COMMENT SO FAR.

Although I'd prefer GDP per capita (in ppp).

>>134890549
>taxes it´s not the primary factor

Poortuguese who doesn't know that everybody Middle Class pays at least 2 minimum wages every month to gib me dats....

>>134906723
No. A rigid hierarchy is an outdated way to control the state that won't benefit anyone but those at the top and their bootlickers. Rigid hierarchies make investors ignore you and prefer locations with more economic liberties.

>>134905382

Lol burger, lol...

>>134906012

Honestly, we won't follow the Irish model to compete with the Irish in a first phase, but with the rest of Europe and especially Spain/France/Italy which are our most direct competitors in term of investment.

But yet still, we could beat the Irish easily in their own game. If conditions are virtually the same, everybody will bet on us instead of the Irish. The only real advantage the Irish would have is to be near to London (and an Irish American community, which we could replace from our own both in America and in Brazil and Canada). Our economy could easily be two or three times that of Ireland and we still would be competitive in the costs of production... and transportation (for most of the world except Britain).

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>>134906312

This is your true flag, weather you like it or not.

Traditionalist Portugal for the win!

>>134907054

Why are militaries and armies efficient under the worst of conditions?

Only with a clear and rigid hierachy, as well as discipline, are some things achievable.
I'm not mirroring anything like the top down directories of communist/socialist states in *everything*. Freedom is still allowed.

But elites are necessary.

>>134874871
How do we solve the subhumano, suíno problema cigano?

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>>134874871
Yes invite the fucking Spaniards but not Brazilians you fucking slack jawed faggot.

>>134908557
We lower the gibsmedat on our side and they go to Spain.

>>134908054
They have a lot more advantages, not talking about only lower taxes. They're English-speaking, have a high percentage of young, educated people, very good infrastructure, and already the connections. Portugal needs to invest in infrastructure and especially in education, those teacher problems are embarrassing as fuck. The country also has to concentrate on non-Anglo countries and businesses that aren't limited to money trade and investments. There are already a shitload of cities competing with Dubling for this (Brussels, Frankfurt, Paris, Luxembourg, Milan just to name the biggest ones). Also you could seize the opportunity and concentrate on Latin American and African lusophone and hispanophone countries, along with Asia. That's how Portugal always did it, go through an alternate way.

Can someone explain how we lost ultramar war? did we really lose the war or territory was sold by socialists?

>>134908807
Won't work unless you want mass scale gypsy riots across the country. I propose tricking poor gunas into thinking that gypsies are the cause of their insuccess and make them kill each other kek

>>134908428
Portugal doesn't need a junta, the country's strength have never been land armies or rigid hierarchies. Elites are necessary, but it has to be garanteed that everyone can be part of it if the person has the potential. It is the only way of making the country better.

Hierarchies are cesspools of corruption and economic backwardness, and this is exactly why Africa is such a shithole.

>>134908999
>Mario ((((Soares))))) wanted to please international jewry, Portugal was the last european country to resist.

>>134908999

Militarily speaking we didnt lose, we had outstanding victories despite the logistical difficulties.

Its exactly like Vietnam, we lost politically back home.

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>>134908999
The coup d'etat guys wanted decolonization. Are you even Portuguese to ask this?

>>134908999
Colonies were prestige territories doing more harm to the nation at that point. Soares went full retard after the revolution though and didn't try anything to save the country's most valuable things. Also Cabinda should have been independent ffs

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Portugal needs to leave the EU, it needs to embrace the global market!

All being inside the EU does is tie your politics to Brussels, and they want Portugal to stay right where it is, namely poor and under their thumb!

>>134909429
how can a defeat be celebrated, can someone explain?

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>>134874871
so when are you guys gonna take your rightful Galician clay back?

>>134909702
If anything Portugal is Galician clay, stop with this shitty meme.

>>134909702
portuguese are diplomatic and traders not conquerors

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>>134909702
It's a shitty meme. Galicia has higher GDP per capita than us

>>134909439
anlo-protuguese empire when?

>>134909702
It would make more sense the other way around desu

>>134908717
spaniards are our brother's, real ones. Brazilians have nothing to do with us, the majority of them are amerindian and other things partially

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>>134909949
>>134910404
SOON

>>134910662
Finally a guy who gets it. We spaniards have more to do with Portuguese than most spanish-speaking south americans

>>134910939
Where's Extremadura, Badalhouce is rightful Portuguese clay

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>>134909928
http://archive.is/8S64v

>>134910662
>spaniards are our brothers
Stop this meme. They try to annex us every chance they get. After the 1974 revolution there were talks with the usa in case we flipped to full blown communism. Im on mobile so ill just leave this one link that shows how spanish greed actually led them them to get trojan horsed by the french during the french invasions
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Fontainebleau_(1807)

>>134908999

We were winning in Angola and Mozambique. We really controlled almost all territory except some remote areas.
In Guinea it was more complicated, but we had the most important areas secured.

Militarily, we won the war. It then got handed over by Socialists and Communists, the real traitors to Portugal.

However, it wouldn't be feasible for us to have colonies for ever, now was it?

>>134908834

Yes. I think we both agree.
I just don't think all those advantages are so important. But then again, I was talking of an if scenario.

>>134910662

Gay who knows nothing about Portuguese and Spanish history. Nor of Brazil...

>>134911526

But if we went full blown communist, they had all the right to intervene. Spaniards are always better than communists.

>>134909439

Help us please, then.

>>134909928

For now you asshole.

Historically, both Porto and Braga were richer than Galiza. Actually, the North of Portugal has almost double the people of Galiza.

Galiza only has a higher GDP per capita because our third republic has done a pretty good working in destroying the country.

>>134912158
Spain would intervene with 1 million Portuguese that participated in Colonial War, battle-hardened and most of military weaponry of the war already at mainland, they would die.

>>134912158
if the choice is between communists or sp*niards then please fucking kill me

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>>134909836

Learn the other spectrum, we were also raiders and conquerors

>>134912215

Yeah, let's throw 500 years of History and Colonisation out of the window because some dumb nigger took a photo while eating monkey soup...

What an argument!

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>>134910662
Fucking wrong learn fucking History.

We prefer the Anglos to them for obvious reasons, and they always wanted this piece of land but we always said no. Spaniards have nothing to do with our temperament and History.

We are the stone in the shoe of the the corrupt fucking assholes Castilians are, if they managed to anex we would be speaking Spanish you cunt. England is our Ally despite all the ups and downs.

And believe me they will try to annex us and do to us what they did to Aragon and Catatonia.

Southern Brazil and that huge nation on the other hand was built by our forefathers blood sweat and tears.

>>134912524

Probably. I am not saying they would win. I am saying they had the right to intervene.
You probably have no idea how close we were of getting invading by the United States in 1974-75 and be made an example to the whole of Europe.

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>>134909702

>>134912764

Nah, that greedy fucker Mário Soares was bought by the cia

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>>134909949
>>134910939


THE FIFTH EMPIRE WAS PROPHESIED.

The Empire of Spirit that will begin the new age of exploration.
For all the foreign anons out there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_Empire

>>134912215
I really dont get this subservient attitude towards the spanish. In every dialogue between a spaniard and a portuguese we go out of our way to talk in broken castilian so they can understand us whilst they never display the same effort. Hell, we see this all the time in media.
At best, the spanish completely ignore the portuguese, and, at worst, have utter contempt toward us

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>>134912898

>>134912764
Right to intervene why? They weren't even part of NATO at that time. Only other NATO dudes could help
>You probably have no idea how close we were of getting invading by the United States in 1974-75
Of course, I know.

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>>134913028

>>134912898
>>134912966
>>134913028
>>134913103
what the fuck is this autism

>>134912215
>Most Spaniards are total bros to us.

Spaniards are not even bros to one another.
I think we should try to stand on their side with good relations but we need to keep a watching them. Not to do so, is anti-patriotic.

>>134913103
Galician here ama

>>134911526
Do you realize that all that you wrote don´t invalidates my point. Yes they tried to invade us centuries ago, yes, but still, they are the most close population to us, by biology, culture and heritage .........the rest of europe too, but spaniards even more.

>>134912052
Dude, brazilians are a mixture of people from 3 differnt continents.
Portuguese people are europeans and caucasoids, like the spaniards, like the rest of europe. You are the one, that doesn´t know anything about history

>>134913261
>"what the fuck is this autism"
>posts with Deus Vult flag

kek

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>>134913512
>non-arguments

>>134913713
>hides flag

kill yourself

>>134912653
>Spaniards have nothing to do with our temperament

We are the sons of lush and cool mountains, fertile gardens, nice beaches where the sun kisses our skin (before it bites).

Castillans are the sons of an unforgiven dry land Meseta. They are too proud and arrogant. Our national characters - Portugal+Galiza vs Spain - are born as a reaction to two antagonous environments. Their great traditional cities (Madrid, Toledo, Burgos, Valladolid) are always places surrounding by nothing and an unforgiven climate from which they want to control the rebels far away.

Our main cities are all close to the open Atlantic or to gentle valleys, surrounding by gardens of lush green vegetation and protecting mountains:
Lisboa, Porto, Braga, Coimbra, Setúbal...

(and maybe Évora, Faro, Vila Real, Aveiro, etc...)

Also, I don't want to be overrun by Brazilians or any kind of New Worlders but to fail to see how much effort we put into Brazil and how many of them are *our people* is worrying.
And I think most of the people who deny that do so in order to look cool to burgers or something...

>>134913713
>thinks it was meant to be an argument

Nope, it was a straight up insult.

Go get buttfucked by priests Larper

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>>134912621

Why don't you take your fucking calcitrin and fuck off back to that hellhole of a place that is Brazil.

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>>134913920
t. Reinaldo Massumba

>>134912913

The CIA thought Soares couldn't pull it off. They thought he would be the "Portuguese Sarensky". That "moderate" who got killed by the Bolsheviks.

He was not "bought" because he actually won the fucking elections, although he recieved a large amount of help, including in money, from the U.S. and other powers.

The Americans in 1974 and 1975 were literally scratching their heads on what they would do to us, if we went vivid red:

Option A: Portugal is allowed to be a communist state and is economically tore into the ground (famine and shit) so that Western Europeans see what happens when Communists win elections;

Option B: Portugal is destroyed in NATO military intervention to prevent funny shit with the Soviets and so that Western Europeans see what happens when Communists get to power.

There were American boats ready to bomb us a few miles from our cost most of the time.

>>134914037

Because I'm not Brazilian. I intend to go there again on holidays soon, dude. It's a hell of a place.

>>134912967

They had the right to intervene because in that case it was clear we posed a threat to them.

>>134914454
Don't forget to visit the favelas and experience some of the hospitality these totally not monkeys can give you.

California fag here. There is a surprising amount of Portuguese people here. I absolutely love the Portuguese people. Especially the wemon. If only we could replace all the Mexicans with Portuguese California would be a red state.

>>134913324

When I Make My Country Rich Again... I will allow you to join in.
I promise,

I love how beautiful your region is.

>>134914362
>There were American boats ready to bomb us a few miles from our cost most of the time.
An Aricraft Carrier anchored in Tagus river and preparation to annex or support Azores and Madeira independentists movements.

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>>134914362
This anão gets it.

>>134914888

By the way,

I check my own promess that PORTUGAL AND GALIZA WILL BE UNITED!!!!!

Portuguese, Galicians:
Let's MUGA: Make Us Great Again!

>>134913261

Isn't that clear?

I am anouncing the return of His Most Faithful Majesty, the King of Portugal, Galiza and the Algarves, of Here and Beyond the Sea.

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>>134913919
All that........... and still there is no other people in the all world, more similar to us genetically then spaniards (pic related).

>Also, I don't want to be overrun by Brazilians or any kind of New Worlders but to fail to see how much effort we put into Brazil and how many of them are *our people* is worrying.

They are not our people dude, a ridiculous minority of them could be (with portuguese 100 or other white heritage), but still, it's better do not take risks.

>>134913479

Lol...

>>134914362

Thanks for clarifing, is Spínola got murdered, or if Marcelo Caetano had a stronger grip, would África be ours?

>>134914362

Btw i think the boats were canadians

>>134915194
Galiza isn't Portuguese clay though, they're a brotherly nation.

Discord PT:
V76HAe

>>134915261

Yes, the Spaniards are more similar to us genetically. You never saw me denying that. Yet, the Spaniards are the ones who repetedly tried to kill your ancestors and destroy every thing you had so that you'd be another awfully undeveloped peripheric province of them, who talked funny so they could make more jokes.

I have personally known many Brazilians who are Portuguese who went there and return. They are probably 5% of the Brazilians I found here.
30% of Brazilians I have had contact with here were white of European ancestry exclusively, judging by their looks and manners.

If you wanna play this game, I have two questions for you:

1) How many Brazilians there are in Brazil of European ancestry (exclusively) in your opinion?

2) Do you think Brazil is an irrelevant country like Equador?

>>134915261
Label your graphs fucktard.

>>134915039
Galiza is Spanish tho

>>134915529
But allies

>>134915021

Funny pic, dude.

>>134915942
I just wrote that they're a brother nation, I didn't talk about whether they should be a part of Spain or not.

>>134909702
The fuck happened to Gibralter

>>134915345
Man, don't listen to them - the programme of MFA was 100% decolonise. Spinola just wanted a diferent point that was to make a species of federation or commonwealth. Only if the coup was stopped.

>>134915345

No. We could win militarily, but I think we would eventually lose in the political arena.
Let me put you this way: Our whitest colony was Angola which got to be 10% white, a significant amount of the whites were troops though; Even South Africa that was a nuclear power and 21% white got dismantled, how could we ever keep our colonies for ever?

Something had to give, the winds of change decreed so. Let's remember the good fight we put up to give what was ours away to the robbers...

Why so many portuguese talk about us negative things here?
We dont even think in portugal.

We dont hate you or feel any negative thing, we just dont care about you.

>>134914876

Greatest Ally, I salute you.

>>134915893
>Yet, the Spaniards are the ones who repetedly tried to kill your ancestors and destroy every thing you had so that you'd be another awfully

Dude, europeans fought against each other for fucking centuries, french vs english, germans, vs english, russians vs germans, portuguese vs french, portuguese vs dutch, dutch vs english, croats vs serbs..... we all know that, but still we share a comon civilization, we are brother's, it's time to wake up and prorect europe. Of course Portugal is an independant nation, Spain is other country.

>1) How many Brazilians there are in Brazil of European ancestry (exclusively) in your opinion?

I don´t care.I care about Portugal and Europe.
but i would say probably 20 million whites in brazil.

>2) Do you think Brazil is an irrelevant country like Equador?

I don´t care.

>>134915529

We are more than brothers.
If Galiza isn't Portuguese clay - which is probably true - than Portugal is Galiza's clay, and it needs an independent decent State to run it. And this is a true you simply cannot deny.

>>134916486

If the times were other we could give european settlers land like Israel does with slavs, i tougth we had many blacks supporting us, was there that much opposition

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>>134913919
Fuck you and fuck the Spanish.

We are Portugal.

>>134914876
Greatest.

>>134916677
Brothers dont treat other brothers with indifference or contempt see >>134916490

>>134916831
Nigger, that's literally what I said before. >>134909766


>>134916490
You should learn some proper English before throwing shit tier bantz into the thread

>>134916967
Go read what some portuguese wrote first about some spaniards. Stop already with the d&c, we must act as brother to save mother europa

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in /pp/ thread, we are discussing Brazilians and Spainiards. A bunch of cucks to me.

Our country is going down - burning, suburbs getting violence and importing islamic migrants, you are not discuss your country and your own people.

>>134883682
Portuguese people are always depressive

>>134917348
I lowkey hope some Moroccan fuck would actually blow up in front of Fátima. This would probably trigger hundreds of thousands of people into crusade mode.

>>134917186
>d&c
Just because i dont want to be considered second class to some castilian in madrid it doesnt mean im not for a strong european values (not EU though). I already know that kind of attitude from uppity lisboners and dont need it made worse from spaniards

>>134916677

Yes, we fought each other in the past, and I am damned sure we will fight each other in the future, I can actually guarantee you that. And that will happen sooner than you expect.
Yes, we share a Civilisation and are bros and stuff.
Don't fall for the fallacy of "the end of history". Most of those wars we fought were not stupid. The reasons we fought them are the same reasons we will fight them again. For instance, imagine Spain does become a communist dictatorship and wants to invade us... how far are we from that? No one fucking knows...

20 Million Brazilians means roughly 10% of them.
The São Paulo state *is* more than 40 million people. More than two thirds claim to be "white", that's 30 million. The European immigration into the state of São Paulo is well attested. It has been majority white in census ever since the mid XIX century. I can tell you that I've met people who went all around that State and have assure me that the state is whiter than the city as a whole. I've been to the city and in most areas it was about 50% white. I'd be surprised if the State of São Paulo was less than 50% white.

Assuming it is 50% white, there you have your 20 million white Brazilians.
And it's not even the whiter part of Brazil. In Rio there are lots of Euro Brazilians as well.
I'd say 25% of Brazilians (50 Million) are definetly white. I'd say 33% of Brazilians are probably white (around 70 Million).

If you truly believe in "white supremacy", you will have to recognise that a country with 70 million whites and lots of "orc-slaves" is a power to be reckoned with:

USA ~ 225 million whites;
Russia ~ 120 million whites
Germany ~ 75 million whites
Brazil ~ 70 million whites

Ahead of France (pop 65M), the U.K. (pop 65M); Italy (pop 60M); Spain (pop 45M), Poland (pop 40M), the Ukraine (pop 45M), which are the most popolous countries in Europe.

>>134916150

Don't worry greatest ally, we'll fight Morocco and grab its Northern part so you can still control the Straights.

When will we jointly control the Oresund though?

>>134916885

We had many blacks supporting us but all the political power in Africa was against us, as well as all communists in the world and the United States. In international affairs, the reality is that even if you are a great power, if you're find yourself isolated, your life will be really, really hard. We were not a great power.

>>134916677

Also, you should care.

>>134917090

Still, give us a unified State. It's a wrong we will have to correct.

>>134916490
You niggers think you're so high and mighty, constantly acting like princes around these parts. There's a reason why we hate you, and you're too retarded to look into yourself and see it, you disrespectful trash.
Ceterum censeo Hispania esse delendam.

>>134916490
Everyone that posts here is extremely autistic

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>>134918265
"White" brazilians are self-reported. They are nothing more than light skinned mulattos.

I've seen prison documents considering chinese inmates as white.

>>134919432
this.

>>134919489

Now that is an actually currently relevant pic.

What's happening with this government is awful and we are the only country in Europe where this happen without a fucking immediate revolution.

>>134919684

I understand. I know. The question is, is anything I said in that comment not actually factual? I really would like to know. Also, if you're replying say where you're from in Brazil.

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vocês gostam de negras?

>>134919489

My pet snail also died during the fire. Add him to the statistics.

Also RIP Steve Mcqueen.

>>134919835

What are you talking about? The way they dealt with the fire or the statistics?

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>>134920086
Não, tira-me essa merda daqui zuca.

>>134919835
>we are the only country in Europe where this happen without a fucking immediate revolution
Two weeks after the Grenfell tower fire nobody gives a shit about it anymore. It's everywhere like this nowadays.

>>134920086
>bandeira
check

>>134918753

Then i guess we should have kept the fight, we should never slaken against the united intrests if the world, we have to tend to ours first
By 1974 the usa was kinder to us, and Israel was selling us their weapons after the yum kippur war
Maybe create a portuguese dependecies modeled after Israel?

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>>134920334

Tinha que ser.Seus ancestrais metiam a rola mesmo, não tinha essa viadagem do neoeuropeu.

>>134920054
It was just a side note. I'd take with a grain of salt any talk about white brazilians, although they are present in the south region. Even then there are many mutts considering themselves white, though.
There are some whites in the southeast, but they are rare. You'd doubt two if the so called paulista "whites" all liked like halfings or jews. Chances are, almost everytime they are lighter skinned mongrels who can call themselves "white", which in brazilian merely means "not-nigger".
I'm a portuguese living in Rio de Janeiro.

>>134920516
Escolhe uma negra que não tem focinho de macaco

>>134920086
sim.

>>134918265
With that kind of talk you must be brazilian, for sure.

> The reasons we fought them are the same reasons we will fight them again

We will not fight again, enough is enough of brother's war's dude, WW1, WW2, and thounsads of other war's while now we are being replaced by non-europeans
And yes i dont care about any non-european country, they can do whatever they want in their homelands, not in Portugal, nor in Italy, France, Spain Germany, Russia, or Ireland.

>>134919684
this, thanks based dude.

>>134920516
Os meus antepassados estavam a combater Turcos, não andavam a estragar o seu sangue com uma dessas...coisas.

>>134920086

So se a minha negrinha (you) quiser fazer mulatinhos comigo para plantar açúcar

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>todos esses mouros homossexuais NT

Vocês nem brancos são cacete.Tem que dar o cacete nas pretinhas mesmo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWIhGM4SDZ0

>>134920102

Both.
And basically their entire way of governing.
Just offering money they don't have to the poor ... so that they think the economy is doing better... everything is a disaster.

>>134920086

No, not really.
But the thing is they are only a bit worse than the average Brazilian girl...

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>>134920102
F

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>>134895285
Government doesn't even know what's happening anymore.

http://archive.is/XHRVw
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>>134921286
Read again:

>Invited - Spainbros, Oldest Allys, Ameribros, former colonies, Germanbros and all good Christians
>Not Invited - Brazillians and Moors

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>>134874871
maybe you'd be more comfortable in a moorish board

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>>134921473

>falando Inglês
>só tem Bostilheiro e mourotuguês no fio

AHAHAAHAHASHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHJAHJAHAHAHA

>>134920334

It's completely different. This could have been prevented if only the government were not so lazy. We actually knew a fire was probable to start and no one cared because no free masons were there at that time, basically.

>>134921557

So the story about the damn chooper was true?
When will the poor bastard have it's own airport?