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If you come here and are not a prepper you're more retarded

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“There are only nine meals between mankind and anarchy.” - Henry Lewis

"The false economy of “free stuff” eventually devolves into overtaxation and economic collapse. When it does, people are more likely to riot, as the entitlements are “owed” to them. In today’s world, however, this condition has peaked far beyond what the world has ever seen before.

Increasingly, those who are angry that the free stuff they are receiving is not enough to placate them take to the streets. Typically, they throw rocks and Molotov cocktails, burn cars at random, destroy buildings, and loot stores. All of this activity, of course, does not make it more likely that they will receive more free stuff from the authorities who presumably owe it to them. Instead, it victimizes those who have lived lawfully and with less dependence upon the state."

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-24/dynamics-riot
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>>134834367
I would prep but presently do not have the money
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>>134834367
I prepped for y2k.
If SHTF now I'm just gonna hunker down.
I'm not worried.
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>no stored food and water
>no guns
>no survival skills
>no first aid kit

If the shtf I'm fucked.
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>>134834367
On it already bro. Live in America. God help the firefighters if my house burns down. There is an Assload of ammo inside.
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>>134835650
me too. if it happens in the next 2 years I'm fucked
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>>134835650
Dude go to the dollar store, you can get so much gauze and disinfectant you'll have enough to trade for200 bucks. First aid chests aren't hard to build. Super glue, fishing line, needles, rubbing alcohol, peroxide, iodine, vaseline, bandages.... Its all there, for a dollar.
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>>134835059
$250 will get you a Maverick 88 shotgun and about 100 shells of buckshot at Wal-Mart. You'll be better prepared than half the population
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>>134835059
Learn skills, learn how to make shit DIY. Than gradually build up on the logistics side (keep in mind you could loose everything in a SHTF situation, even if you had thousands of $ in food or something you can get overrun), but learning to be adaptable and having the right mindset (basically being prepared to live thru hell on hearth) is the 1st thing if you want to have a chance.

shtfschool.com
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>>134835812
Get on it. At least store 60 days worth of water. Also, @ the dollar store for the broke niggas. They have big bags of rice and beans too. Along with canned shit. For the poormans prep, hit the dollar store. No lie.
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>>134834367
From way back
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>>134835985
DO have this in mind though:
Guns are good, but are not a substitute for being fit.
>Stop smoking and drinking
>Stop doing other drugs
>Start to build your cardio and strength up
>Start eating real food
>Start meditating

Also, very important to prepare yourself mentally, you'll see shit that will make you lose all faith in humanity, got to be prepared for that shit.
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>>134836101
Store your food in rat proof big metal cans. Trust me
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>>134835985
This is good advice Tbqh familia
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>>134836387
50 gallon drum with a clamp on lid should work ok. Lol that's what I do and throw an Assload of dessicant pouches in each one. Keeps it dry and shit.
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>>134836101
60 days of water is a lot of water. I'm not going to say you shouldn't do that, but for most people it's more practical to start with a water filter so that they can use whatever kind of water they can find when they need it.

The toilet tank probably has a couple of day's worth as long as you can figure out how to not need to flush your shit down. Keeping the bathub full is pretty standard pre-storm protocol. But in both cases you're probably going to want to filter that before drinking it.

And once you have a filter you don't have to worry if you put too much or too little bleach in your storage tanks, or whatever you did in the hopes that it wouldn't spoil.
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if you prep or store food/supplies.............. don't tell anyone except immediate family.
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>prepping

kek
Cityfags think that having more than the next 2 meals in their home is prepping.
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>>134836676
Sounds good. Goddamn rats chew through plastic real quick though
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>>134836362
>Stop doing other drugs
This is an important point. If things go sideways for very long, what is going to happen with the people who depend on pharma drugs?

Portugal I would guess is not as bad as the US, but people in the US: just think how many people you know that are on at least one pill. A lot of them hold pretty significant downsides when people have to quit cold turkey.
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>>134837215
On water purification:
many preppers think bleach lasts forever, it doesn't, it starts breaking down after 6 months and gradually turns to salty water. If you want to stash some water purification chem, get some calcium hipoclorite (grain or powder) and learn the ratio of dilution to make it into bleach that you'll use on the water for purification. The calcium hipoclorite in its solid form (undiluted) doesn't good bad unlike the bleach. And its cheap, get 30kg of that and you'll have enough for 50 years+ and you'll need bleach to disinfect your latrine 2.
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>>134837244
Good advice
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>>134837659
I've never done it personally but apparently it's not too hard to get nitrogen packing or some other system that involves the removal of oxygen (oxygen being your worst enemy for spoiling) using the "candle method". Look that up on the interbutts for good advice from people who pack their own food.
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>>134837215
Don't forget your hot water heater has 40+ gallons in it. That's a good start
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>>134834367
I am fully prepared to survive for well over a year. Not all storage, but I can grow food and also hunt/forge easily If I really needed to supplement my current supply stocks.
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>>134837215
Yeah you're right. Filters are better. Albeit stored water is good for lots of reasons. It does run out eventually though.
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>>134837380
They will be the first to chimp out
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>>134837677
Seriously
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>>134837913
Had my water shut off for a 3 day weekend once. Wound up flushing the toilet with part of a case of Hawaiian punch since I did eventually need to use the tank to flush it.

I was just about to start in on the hot water heater but fortunately it rained. The oily brown character of the roof runoff made me really, really glad I had a water filter. That would have been good for flushing the toilet a few more times, but nothing else.
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>>134837882
I buy bulk food that's nitrogen packed but don't know how to do it myself
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>>134834367
No money otherwise I would.
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>>134837380
If hunger, dehydration, violence or an infection gets them, the lack of sanitation probably will. Prepping is just going back to the wild west in a way, cities are basically traps and rural side also has its challenges. And don't forget, there are various kinds of SHTF scenario, and you should start prepping for the most likely 1st (you got to make your own judgement on that) here are some from the top of my head (add more anons):

1- supply chain going down
2- riot
3- natural catastrophe
4- political violence/civil war
5- terrorism (knife attack, bomb, truck of peace, chemical/biological weapon)
6- fire

Also, like>>134837244 says, keep it on the down low BUT if you can get others into prepping (the more ppl prep the less vultures you'll have and the more fire power normal ppl will have to go against the psycho marauders that will appear). You can do it by sharing some article or commenting on something like the article in the OP and going like "Fuck if that shit happens I'm fucked, I guess that's not good." (makes them think you're not prepped and makes them think they should prep).
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>>134838426
Yeah fortunately the Mormons make it relatively cheap and easy to have a year or more of freeze dried food shipped to your door if you don't have the time or inclination to figure out preservation methods for yourself.

Always better to learn how to do at least a little bit on your own, but if you have some extra dollarbux, you really can't argue with just starting with some of that right away and getting more sophisticated over time.
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>>134834367
already have, have about 3k rounds for each of my guns, stocked up on toiletries, extra ammo, food, water and meds for me and my family and to barter in a shtf situation. paper currency even gold and silver will be deemed worthless because in a dire situation guns, ammo, food, water, meds and toiletries will be necessary to survive.
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>>134838131
Also on the topic of hot water, comfort:
start doing cold baths/contrast baths, you may have to do without hot water and it will payoff to be as much used to it as possible (and that shit is great for your health).
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>>134838866
Cold water feels good.
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>>134838547
>the lack of sanitation probably will
Hurricane Katrina was particularly interesting to watch play out. There was this one blog a former military guy was keeping while maintaining some sort of high rise building that happened to be equipped with a generator. Disinfectants and cleaning supplies because critically valuable after the city flooded out.

And what a lot of people don't about cities is that usually the sewage plants need electricity to run the pumps and are not equipped with generators. So even though the water plants and the cell phone towers and the hospitals and things have generators, in many cases the city will be forced to turn off the city water after a few days so that sewers don't back up.

Once the water stops, watch out. And if dead bodies start piling up? It's ogre.
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>>134838866
If you've ever been like backpacking or whatever, you learn how quickly you can wash yourself off with a bowl of cold not-even-very-clean water, some kind of soap, and a rag.
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>>134835059
Amazon bucket of wheat berries plus a grinder, hey instant prepper meals of yummy high protein bread for about 2 weeks

then get a cheapass .22lr for squirrels and shit
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>claims to be a prepper
>not marrying a jew
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>>134840875
KEK

That reminds me of this:
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/03/20/luxury/doomsday-luxury-bunkers/index.html

PS: how the fuck do I archive my links, I don't want to give clicks to CNN terrorist network.
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>>134841158
Remember to archive
https://archive.is/fOQht
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>>134841192
It's... him!
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>>134841277
lel, is he a person or a bot?
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>>134841361
In less than 30 seconds he archived your link and posted it. It's safe to say it's a bot.
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>>134841524
There is a person behind it, but I think when it pops up that quickly with no interaction, it becomes clear that it is automated to some degree. I imagine some links provoke an automatic response and others go in to some kind of queue in case he wants to manually have a look, check out the thread, etc.
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>>134841822
It's quite easy to filter out certain threads on and posts on /pol/. Something as a simple as a "http:" would suffice for a based archiver.
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>>134842121
Right but obviously it doesn't archive every single link (which would probably get him in trouble anyway). And once in a while he gets criticized for archiving certain domains.

I don't know how exactly he's got it set up, but I can imagine how I would do it, and how I would do it would result in behavior somewhat similar to what I've observed in terms of what gets archived, how fast, and when he either gives a quick chat or winds up lurking a thread.
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>>134838860
You realize as soon as word gets out you have all that shit, Jamaal and his homeboys will kill you, take all your stuff then run a train on your wife?
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>>134842427
Through a hail of lead
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>>134842579
>Not being friends with all the other well regulated people

That's the real redpill. If you think you can go it alone you're already doomed.
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>>134842427
>Not studding how to make your house a death machine of traps for home invaders and set up logistics so that you can put the system online in less than 4 hours when SHTF in order to make you house a fortification that will dissuade the niggers by having the first 50 that enter killed automatically.
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>>134843388
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>>134843388

You can kill yourself just as easily doing that.
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>>134843388
Hope it's based on flinging them a quarter mile away so you don't have to deal with managing the rotting corpses.
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>>134842750
Alone is very very hard in the long term to survive, but you're better off alone than with treasonous ppl or ppl that have a tendency to take advantage from others. Keep it on the down low, get others to prep, and make your spot very dangerous to get in, along with all the other prepping you make.
Also, have a "special" stash of "less than desirable" (if you know what I mean) food and water around so that if in last case a group of fuckers does fuck you up, they all lose even if they win :)
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>>134843545
True, guess the SHTF will serve as filter for low iq shit heads in more ways than one.
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>>134842750
There are more unwashed masses of starving people than you have friends.
You pathetic beta prepper cucks are going to be btfo by Chad Thundercock and his raider army.
The real red pill is being an anarcho-capitalist. Just sell some 3d printed child slaves to Chad for supplies and protection.
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>>134838547
>If hunger, dehydration, violence or an infection [doesn't] get them, the lack of sanitation probably will.
You’re pretty much fucked in a big city when a happening hits, being an average idiot.
If Katrina didn’t convince you, just watch the East coast whenever a blizzard or hurricane hits:
Hordes ravaging Wally World shelves, mongs freezing to death (or drowning) in their cars, people crying about starving 12 hours later. And these are annual “happenings”.

Anything longer than a week and it will really get fun.

Here’s a sanitation tip for you city dwelling deplorables: make a simple dry toilet.
5-gallon bucket, plastic bag liner, and something that absorbs moisture (cat litter or sawdust works well).
NEVER piss in this toilet—liquid helps shit to decompose, and is what causes latrines to reek.
Take a dump, and then cover it. You can pull the seat off your real toilet and set it on top of the bucket for more comfort.
Keep the bucket covered when not in use, or else flies will lay eggs and the maggots will eat your shit and create moisture that will cause the whole thing to stink.
It’ll take about 2 weeks to fill, for one person.
When about 80% full, pull the bag out and tie it off leaving as little air as possible inside, then stash the bag somewhere it won’t be accidentally torn open. Put it inside a second bag, if you have enough to spare.

You’re welcome.
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>>134843577
>Not taking into account organic remains processing for when SHTF
>Lime, plastic, duct tape, isolated place for the remains
>Not using the bones of the fallen has a way to show your neighborhood is not the safest place to get easy loot
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>>134843761

Chad becomes the government then. And once he dominates you by force he gets to demand whatever he wants from you.
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>>134843893
Apparently there are some gardening pros who have worked out composting systems that can take down a turkey carcass within a few days once they get the microbial life going strong.
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>>134839060
In Stalingrad during a siege there were streets with over half a meter (almost 1.75 feet for the burgers) of literal shit on it.
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Feels relevant
I'll dump some
Courtesy of /k/
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>>134844101
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>>134844178
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>>134843876
That's why zip ties (10000 at least) and plastic bags (some 10000 also) are important. Cheap to get now, hard to get latter, you'll really need them. And for saving as much water as possible get some thousand sets of throw away cheap plastic forks, knives, spoons, cups and dishes (no water for the dishes wasted).
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>>134844294
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>>134843988
interesting, any sauce?
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>>134844361
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>>134844101
I would avoid eating that as much as I could, its more probable to get sick.
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>>134844294
One thing to take into account about SHTF meals, take into account how thirsty something makes you. Important to save water.
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>>134834367
Coming straight outta CIA yo bitch you a joke i smoke so much dick my fuckgin lips smoke

crack cocaine all day shit posting all over the internet
im a dope fiend my womans some mexican piece of shit i should kms
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>>134844383
No. Just some guy I've heard on Vince Finelli's radio program one time reporting back on his ongoing gardening adventures.

Vince runs a yearly "USA Prepares" expo here in the US, as well, and he's a great place to start for people who are interesting in getting started on exploring on doing more than some normie basics. The network of people connected to him contains a great many other good starting points depending on what in particular you're interested in.
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>>134836362
>you'll see shit that will make you lose all faith in humanity
We're on /pol/. Within 4chan. You think we still had any of that shit?
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>>134844341
That shit will be everywhere when shtf.

The hot tickets first and foremost are:
Lighters
Toiletries
Ammunition
Medication

Every other thing you could want can be bartered for with these
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>>134844722
Stop being apocaliptophobic.
Also, lay off the pipe son.
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>mfw i'm a wilderness guide and the only difference between a week at work and the nogpocalypse is an AR-15 and ammo
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>>134836362
So just watch bestgore.com?
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>>134844627
That dude in the interview is Selco, his site is really good, its shtfschool.com
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>>134844341
>That's why zip ties (10000 at least) and plastic bags (some 10000 also)
>And for saving as much water as possible get some thousand sets of throw away cheap plastic forks, knives, spoons, cups and dishes

For zip ties, get a spool that you can cut to size--handy in many normal situations as well; I always keep one in my camping gear and one in my electrical tool bag--$3.
10000 bags is overkill. Chances are, you'll be in a temporary situation and if not, you aren't going to carry all those bags when you leave.

Fuck disposable dinnerware; that's just more garbage to pile up with food bits that attract bugs.
Clean your utensils and cookware immediately after using. If water is scarce, lick the platter clean and wipe it down with a paper towel, toilet paper, baby wipes, disinfectant wipes, whatever.
Then, toss it in your dry toilet and cover it the next time you shit.
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I realize I have much less than I thought I had
But anyway, it's always good to have some supplies in the house for a little while, and a ood bug-out bag
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>>134845193
Knowing how to use chopsticks turns out to be pretty useful. I only learned in my 20s when I took a trip to SE Asia. But now any time I can find literally two sticks or something else like that at hand I can eat without using my fingers. And then you can just toss them, or suck them clean and keep going for a while if you found good ones.

Something like a credit card makes a decent scoop, and is easy to suck clean because it won't absorb anything, but it's awkward in many cases. Good for scraping something clean of food I suppose.
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>>134844788
You've got a point, but when SHTF the gore will be IRL and you have no mute button for the screams of abject terror and guns firing. I guess I should have said "prepare yourself psychologically to live in psychological nightmare conditions".
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>>134844833
>false economy
projects on me
>durp
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>>134844816
You've got a point, but each time you have to barter:
1- Your base has less ppl to defend it(you should be at least a group of 3 armed ppl for bartering)
2- Shit can get tense and violence can erupt
3- Even if violence doesn't happen immediately, a bitter taste in someones mouth can get someone to plan on fucking your group up (imagine they really need something you have but for some reason you disagree with the deal (maybe they don't have enough of what you think they want if worth for you) and they get resentful and still need the thing and now know you have it)
4- could get ambushed by 3rd party

Lesson, be as prepared as you can in order to avoid barter if you can.
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>>134843876
Probably the most important thing ive ever learned. Thank you.
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I still read zerohedge but they have lost credibility in my eyes for (1) citing infowars as a source numerous times (2) citing fucking /pol/ LARPers as a source multiple times (3) continuing to publish doomsday authors who are wrong every time but keep on going with their predictions as if they never made any in the past; and (4) shifting from being highly critical and skeptical of Trump to basically being a completely pro-Trump source.
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>>134844788

You can watch gore from a warm house while you're well fed from behind a computer screen. But it's a lot different when you're right there.

He's mainly talking about coping/compartmentalization mechanisms. Over the long term you have to cope with horrible shit and in the moment you have to completely disregard the horrible shit and get the job done. People lose their minds in good times. You have to prepare a mental fortress as well.
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my bugout bag includes a large quantity of magic mushrooms, enough doses of LSD to make even the smartest man go insane, a bag of weed, and a cyanide pill
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>>134845979

Plus don't forget for that everything you barter the person you're trading with is going to be constantly imagining what you have and you're not showing him. Greed and jealousy can become powerful things.
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>>134845008
I don't, but I do negative visualization exercices (you know, I imagine being in really fucked up situations and feeling freaked out and then imagine going from freaked out to calm and collected as fast as possible and thinking how am I going to get out of this fucking mess, and I make it as detailed as possible. I also visualize going in a normal way and then something really bad happening and not even freaking out just execute a plan when the threat is identified).

Also, readying interviews and seeing docs on civil wars and natural catastrophes helps. For example, one thing that happens in lots of civil wars is the simp beta fag's wives leaving them for gang leaders who can protect them. What kind of psychological impact would that have on you if you unexpectedly heard some poor guy crying about it during SHTF? Would you feel sorrow? Would you feel disgust? Why not face that fucked up shit is going to happen and keep as zen as you can so you can use your cognitive and emotional energy towards finding solutions to the problems? That's the way I see psychological preparation for SHTF basically.

But yeah, looking at some of the cartel videos that once in a while pop up in the /pol breads doesn't hurt either I guess.
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>>134846125
yeah that's kinda how this works pal

even a broken clock is right twice a day, and most people are fucking stupid and forget things within a week
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>>134840433
>then get a cheapass .22lr for squirrels and shit
It takes like 12 squirrels to make a burger. You want a bow/crossbow. Practice every day and take down everything from small to large game, and if need be, other humans. Silently.
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join
/EGVHv7
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>>134835059
25lb bag of rice is $8. You can at least do that.
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>>134846645
it used to be better though, and felt a whole lot more independent
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>>134846125
You don't have to take the article in OP to heart, just research how easy shit like that is to happen for yourself (riots, natural catastrophes, disruption of supply chains, civil wars). You'll find that you're supposed to feel paranoid.
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>>134846134
THIS
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>>134846304
t. preppy Corey.
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>>134846338
Good point.
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>>134846610
ptsd does that for me.
thanks to being homeless a few years ago i can only stomach a meal a day. so thats sorta a plus too.
hell im preppin and i didnt even know.
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>>134847220
What doesn't kill you does make you stronger.
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>>134835059
If SHTF your initial goal should be to survive the first 72 hours. Try not to leave your place if in an urban environment, if you do have to relocate think of places out of people's line of sight (roof tops) if you have enough to buy a knife, tomahawk or a machete do so, search YouTube for basic survival skills pertaining to your area and diy cheap weapons.

Also don't go out looking like a badass. Have some shitty clothes that make you look like a harmless bum...walking thru the streets with an ar-15 is the fastest way to catch a bullet.
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>>134846661
>You want a bow/crossbow. Practice every day and take down everything from small to large game, and if need be, other humans. Silently.

Cityfags can't even manage to keep a week's worth of food in their homes, and you think they'll practice with a bow and arrows every day?

Fuck no.

A .22lr is the best all around shtf weapon.
ANYONE can quickly learn to fire it accurately; even your great-grandmother or a 5 year old.
You can carry a shit ton of ammo for the weight--definitely more than your dozen arrows that you'll need to retrieve if you want to shoot again.
They're extremely affordable, and so is the ammo (prices have dropped, while availability has risen over the past 6 months).
Get some birdshot for small critters and some Velocitor for big ones, plus a few spare magazines.

I've taken everything up to and including mule deer with a .22.
Killed 8 coons and 2 coyotes with one this year alone.
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>>134846853
Note note to but brown rice, it does not keep as long do to high oil content. Other rices will keep forever if stored properly
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>>134848384
good luck buying the ammo Mr. Moneybags
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/24/politics/kushner-russia-statement-trump-denials/index.html
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>>134848988
Fuck posting from a phone,
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>>134835650
You can by a months worth of ramen, vitamin supplement and water for like $30 bucks. A serviceable shotgun can be bought for under $350 (many maskes, models and prices). Ammo can be procured easily - $20-30 for 100 shells. Get #4 birdshot. Will do the job with less recoil allowing faster resetting and follow-up firing.
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>>134849025
https://archive.is/szI8P

ARCHIVES FOR THE ARCHIVE GOD
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>>134844178
>locking knife
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>>134837215
They sell bags on Amazon that sit in your tub and hold water.
>Earthquake
>deploy bag in bathtub
>turn on water and fill bag
>have 100gal water in bag for $20
>more tubs more bags more water
Granted this is hinging on you not bugging out.
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>>134849015
>good luck buying the ammo Mr. Moneybags
as I mentioned, availability has been rising and price dropping over the past 6 months (longer than that if you were buying online).

Cost of .22lr now pretty much matches prices 20 years ago, when taking inflation into account.
And, there are dozens of types easily available now. Hell, the last time I was in Cabelas, they had 100 round boxes of Super-X round nose and hollow points marked down to $6 because they had too much stock.
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>>134849117
Yeah the 25lb bags for $8 are white anyways.
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>>134848384
>Cityfags can't even manage to keep a week's worth of food in their homes, and you think they'll practice with a bow and arrows every day?
Cityfags often boast and take selfies of themselves at the gym. Being physically fit is important if you want to fire a bow.

A gun is going to make a shit ton of noise and draw a lot of attention/scare animals away.

Should SHTF you want to leave no trace of your existence to anyone, else you will be hunted and looted. Bullet casings are a dead giveaway of someones presence.
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>>134850007
>A gun is going to make a shit ton of noise and draw a lot of attention
Just don't fire more than twice from one position.
>scare animals away
You've never been hunting, have you?

>Bullet casings are a dead giveaway of someones presence.
>this mong doesn't police his brass

You're not going to be using a gun to go hunting in the fucking city; you're not going to be using a bow to hunt in the city either.

I know it sounds nice and Mad Maxish to be the barbarian with his longbow, but most people wouldn't be able to hit a car at 30 yards with one, let alone an animal or a person who doesn't want to get killed.

This isn't a movie.
I'd guess that half the faggots here haven't ever fired a gun, let alone a bow.
But, they could learn to use a .22 really fast.
No recoil, fairly quiet, lightweight.
I got my 8 year old daughter her first gun for her birthday a few months ago, a 10/22 Talo takedown, and she can put 10 shots into a 2" target at 50 yards in about 30 seconds after only firing about 300 rounds.
Using birdshot on a critter less than 10 yards away is cake.
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>tfw live in Montana
>got a really good SHTF plan
I just gotta hope that when shit hits the fan, it isn't Yellowstone.
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>>134851259
LEL, lets hope that shit stays put
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>>134851174
>You're not going to be using a gun to go hunting in the fucking city; you're not going to be using a bow to hunt in the city either.
Sorry, I expected you to live in the country like your previous comments eluded to. If your aim is to flat out kill people in the middle of an urban area, take a gun 100% of the time. If your aim is survival and subsistence? Use a bow.

>I know it sounds nice and Mad Maxish to be the barbarian with his longbow, but most people wouldn't be able to hit a car at 30 yards with one, let alone an animal or a person who doesn't want to get killed.
We're talking prepping strategies. Most people on here probably don't excercise much either, but it was suggested earlier in this thread.

What if your gun breaks and you cant replace a part? You can make an improvised bow and arrow at anytime from a wide variety of materials. Arrow heads can be made from flint knapping, a survival skill you should have regardless.

You can turn the string into a bowstring for a fire, or use it to snare animals in the wild while you sleep.

Bows are the gift that keeps on giving.
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>>134851381
I hope nobody fires bigass nuclear ICMBs into the great lakes
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>>134844178
Altoids cans are great for storing small shit you might need. I made a kit from those cans for really basic urban survival, fishing, really basic first aid, sewing, and small tools.

Its convienient as hell to have them in your car or backpack.
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>>134851935
Got it all ziplocked for waterproof?

They're also great little metal boxes for electronics projects.
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>>134835700
>ammo inside
unless you have your ammo stored in cans (dont know actual term) they wont explode in a housefire.

I think a loaded gun can fire off a shot though
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A final thing before I go to sleep. Its not a bad idea to stock up on some cartons of cigarettes and some cases of beer. People still need their vices so they'd be good bartering chips. Plus alcohol doesn't make you sick like poorly filtered water would. Going with this thinking, having some physical porn might be a good idea too.
>>134852150
No but I'm gonna now
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>>134852384
Hello sir, I need 20 playboy magazines, 20 hustlers and give me 20 of that girls and guns thingy also. Its for survival purposes.
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>>134852384
>having some physical porn
I remember back when I was into some IRC one of the kids got deployed to Iraq.

A month or two in and comes back into the channel asking anybody could help hook him up with porn since the army internets blocked it all and he really needed to fap. He was so happy when I uploaded a bunch of quality JB for him. You might be on to something.

>>134852525
Favors count for a lot.
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>>134834367
My family have been "preppers" for generations.
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>>134852599
>Favors count for a lot.
You gotta that right friend.
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>>134835985
>only 5k rounds in the vault
>just paid off credit cards and don't want to start spending again
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>>134851790
man we'd be fucked..
it would be a really nice river though.
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>>134852811
>maxing out credit cards to buy ammo
That's just stupid tbqh laddie
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Pro tip for every "(((prepper)))".

Spend your time and money on learning skills, not buying super duper gear.

Guys with lots of gear and no skills will be the most vulnera

Get yourself a hunting license and start hunting. It's a good way to start prepping properly.
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>>134852930
I don't max them out but I'm cheap and only make 40k which doesn't go far here
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>>134852945
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>>134852727
:)
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>>134848376
>If SHTF your initial goal should be to survive the first 72 hours. Try not to leave your place if in an urban environment

Why? Better chance of escape in the initial chaos with many other running than being picked off by the select few groups of gangbabgers or raiders that set up shop in the aftermath
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>>134853441
The basic rule is: If you can leave as soon as SHTF, leave, if not wait 72 hours.
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>>134851671
>I expected you to live in the country like your previous comments eluded to
I live deep innawoods.
My advice was for cityfags, most of whom get twitchy if there's more than a day's worth of food in their fridge, hence my earlier post about how to make a sanitary dry toilet.
ANYONE can learn to use a .22 quickly.
A bow? not so much. That shit takes a lot of practice. And, a place to practice.

>We're talking prepping strategies.
Prepping for a cityfag means buying a whole 12 pack of coke instead of a single can from the mini-mart.

>What if your gun breaks and you cant replace a part?
Then I'll have to use one of my 16 other guns.
Of course, I've never had a gun "break". Not once. I still use a shotgun my grandfather won in a poker game in 1928.

Most anons are idiots; not because they're incapable of surviving, but because they've never had any reason to think about it.
Food comes from the grocery store.
Shit magically disappears down the toilet.
I'm approaching this from the point of what do you do when the grocery store is looted and burned to the ground, and the water stops running.

None of these niggers are going to become proficient with a bow.
Most will never use a gun.
Hell, half will never learn how to properly wipe their ass.
I started with how to build a sanitary makeshift toilet, and progressed to “buy a fucking .22 and some ammo, you daft cunts”.

For serious “prepping”, your knowledge is the most important thing.
“Don’t drink THAT water!!” Why? Which water? What do you do if you don’t have a $300 water filter, and your kidneys are starting to shut down because you haven’t drank anything in 96 hours?
Fuck guns vs bows.
WHAT do you eat when you’re starving?
HOW to you catch it so you can eat it?

Most will need a good knife more than a gun. A bow is a novelty and pretty low on the list.
If you ask me 10 years after SHTF, a bow will be much higher priority.
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>>134853441
Because every normie is going to try and GTFO at the same time, which is what creates part of the chaos your talking about. You don't want to be caught up in the wave of retards congesting every major route out of a city, unless it's so unsafe that staying is going to kill you in the first few days.

Hunker down, stay invisible till whatever happens kills off the first wave of idiots freaking out, then leave quietly.
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>>134853972
you know your shit anon
EXPAND PLS
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>>134853996
Nah get a lifted 4x4. Fuck roads.

>be me
>yuge snow storm
>one of the most ridiculous logistic places in the country
>whateves my car goes through snow like I'm playing legos
>traffic slows down
>fug
>big lifted truck nails it into the median and tears mud trails jumping itself into the service lane

dude had the right idea
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>>134852945
absolutely right, thank you for pointing that out.
dont overlook this goys.
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>>134853972
>What do you do if you don’t have a $300 water filter
If I'm lucky I use one of the several tiny 1L sports bottle type things with a filter built in that I can and used to drink sketchy water in the wild that you'd normally worry about getting diarrhea from. A lot quicker and easier than setting up a still or some other system of cleaning up arbitrary water.

One of the biggest killers in the world is dehydration from diarrhea.
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Potassium iodide.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00006NT3A/ref=sxts_2_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1500966533
7 bucks now. Worth everyone in the rooms life if you need it. Just a little food for thought.
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>>134849248
Birdshot, really? Man up and just go for 00 Buck, you want to put your target down for good or dance awhile? If we're talking the scenario we're talking, the person or group who has decided to enter your domicile is doing it with the worst of intentions and nothing to lose, isn't time to be merciful with your load.
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>>134854418
>If I'm lucky I use one of the several tiny 1L sports bottle type things with a filter built in that I can and used to drink sketchy water in the wild that you'd normally worry about getting diarrhea from

OK.
What do you do if you don't have that bottle?
What do you do when it clogs up after 1/2 a liter?
What do you do when your family is with you and that bottle can't filter enough water?
What do you do when you escape the city, only to find out mountainfags are shooting you and your crotchfruit for fun?
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>>134854639
IRL rad-x
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>>134854418
pretty easy to make a still as well.
its basically just a large pot with a lid, some copper pipe, and a reservoir for your finished product.
oh and of course fire.
only problem, itll also kills minerals too, not just bacteria/chemicals.
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>>134834367
does prepping bulls count?
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>>134834367
>I'm gonna prep so I can live life in a post-apocalyptic wasteland and do nothing worthwhile

That's how retarded preppers sound. Unless we're talking about bull preppers which I guess is the same type of person.
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>>134854891
>What do you do if you don't have that bottle?
Pull out another one, ideally. I'm big on redundancy.
>What do you do when it clogs up after 1/2 a liter?
Unscrew the top and scrub off the filter element
What do you do when your family is with you and that bottle can't filter enough water?
>Now we're in trouble. But at least I know enough to keep them hydrated as long as possible, and I can carry 50lbs on my back easily, even if half of that has to be water.
>What do you do when you escape the city, only to find out mountainfags are shooting you and your crotchfruit for fun?
I'm pretty fucked.

But that's still better than having to stop and build something else by hand.
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>>134854922
You can do a solar still, too, if you're good at improvising.

I still wouldn't put it at the top of the list of my default options if the world shits the bed.
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>>134834367

Cool thread. I'm a prepper in Wisconsin. Actually moving out of the city in a couple months to a nice country plot.

As it stands right now I've got enough food to feed my family of 4 for ~3 months. I want to up that to at least a year. I've got enough water filtration gear for up to 12,000 gallons, all kinds of seeds, hygiene products, emergency lighting, etc. And of course guns & ammo.

My 2 main concerns right now are:

1) Upping my food supply
2) An emergency heat source. It gets cold here. The house I'm living in has a natural fire place so I was never overly concerned about it. The house I'm moving to does not.
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you can sterilize a lot of water with pool shock, and it's easier to store than 50 bottles of bleach. careful though, have to keep it dry as it's a powerful oxidizer.
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>>134854806
>Birdshot, really?
Yes, you fucking mong.

Birdshot will tear a nigger's face off at 10 yards.
More important, it will leave enough of a critter to eat.
This is survival, not a game of Doom.
>B-but hao can an AR-15 compete with a NUKE!!
An AR-15 leaves enough to eat afterward.

>Muh Dik
If you have a nuke in your storage shed, go ahead and use it.
You'll have the biggest dick EVAR, until your entire family dies of dehydration.

>M-Muh Dik?
Yes, nigger. Your dik.
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>>134855008
k
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>>134855404
What is the goal of this post
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>>134855008

People like you will be the first targets in any disaster scenario. Someone need merely flip a switch and your whole world can come crashing down. If you're too stupid to understand that you deserve to be culled.
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>>134855439
y
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>>134855275
>in emergency heat source. It gets cold here.
They make pretty rad EXTREME SPORTS sleeping bags these days. I've got one thats rated for -20F and stuffs down into a tiny thing you can hang off your back or your belt. Never had to curl all the way up in it so far.

People talk about those wallet-sized space blanket mylar things. I've been meaning to get around to trying it. Probably not a bad thing to put in your glove compartment in case you need to deal with shock.

Wool, of course. Cuddling, of course. But you want to have lots of ways to start a fire when you need one. Fire is one of man's bestest friends.
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>>134834367
This
https://youtu.be/X6SI0QVTgZs
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>>134855579
Brand and model pls
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>>134855275
#2 about cold.

Because the Jews hacked my dick apart, I got in to trying spandex underwear. Let me tell you this stuff is awesome. And you can move on to full-body spandex.

It has to be skin-tight, but it's amazingly warm in the cold and amazingly cool when it's hot out. It's also super-easy to wash and then you can have white man luxuries like clean clothes that don't feel all gross and salty and full of sweat and stink. And they pack up in to very tight places.
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>>134855649
The sleeping bag? It was a gift from my brother so we could go backpacking together. It's like 20yrs old from REI and it's probably old tech by now. But it still works great.
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>>134855337
You done sperging about your lack of viable munitions? Cool, good to know. Dropping nigger isn't going to endear me, that's par for the course.
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>>134841524
I think the archive part is automated, but I have also seen him respond and comment. Either that or it's some Nord neck beard sitting on a shit bucket like colonel 100 waiting for the chance to archive something as if it were a knife kill. I don't know what scenario I prefer to imagine.
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>>134853972
How DO you prep when living in a city? asides from stockpiling food, what can you salvage? Many will die and populations will displace themselves out of the city naturally, but many will stay making scavenging hard. Animals like squirrels and crows and such would be scared off from people, or even hunted in numbers so they would be scarce already. Living in a city during a SHTF situation is just waiting for the inevitable.
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>>134834367
Pretty sure op has been preping the bull for years.
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>>134855579

I've got that kind of stuff already. I'm thinking along the lines of a woodburner.
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>>134856060

IMO a major city will be a death trap unless you've got a tank parked in your garage.
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Kinda a prepper but cant go to boss level since weapons are not allowed in my gay country.
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>>134856060
Guns for the pavement jungle.

>>134856062
Yeah I haven't looked in to those mini-stoves they have going around these days, but it seems interesting.
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>>134856061
Go eat a taco and try not to get culled by a cartel while walking home hombre.

https://archive.is/unNuK
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i have 300 rounds you guys think this is a reasonable amount?
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>>134856401
1000 rounds per firearm.
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>>134856202

On the flip side, I don't want to make myself a target. Smoke is easy to spot from a long way off, especially in the dead of winter.
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>>134855013
>I'm pretty fucked.

You're royally fucked.
>We're gonna go innawoods. We done gots a few sportzbottles
>We be pilgrimz, an sheeit

You ever met or tried to talk to anyone who lives innawoods?
YOU'RE our version of niggers.
Eaters.
People who bring nothing to the table but an empty hole that demands 2000 calories a day.
No skills.
No work ethic.
Just hungry mouths.
Hungry mouths that never stop complaining.

A bottomless pit.

>You done halfta feeds muh chillenz
>I exist, so you done owe me!!

You're cancer.
Your children might be useful, if we gave a shit about pretty pink chiffon dresses and the gender of your faggot son's bunghole.
That's all nice.
But, no one out here cares.
>Itz Pink!!
Yeah. We need firewood.
And, water.
And food.

Not some boybitch who prances around with his faghole sticking out.

>MUH GenderIdentity!!\
Binary.
Either a pitcher or a catcher.
Catchers have to learn how to cook, if they don't want to be tossed out in the cold.
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>>134855337
Its been a pleasure reading your posts tonight anon
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>>134856298
>Implying i live in mexico city or narco state

Try harder my hue favela nigger friend
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>>134856522
I don't know what your situation is, but there are people who've lived in various places in like Siberia who cuddled up next to inefficiently reacted nuclear weapons for heat and then just up and died not long after.

If you're not an expert then shooting for being more toward the head of the pack than the back of the pack is entirely reasonble.
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>>134856522
You can build smokeless and lightless fires. Get some bushcraft skills anon.
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>>134855579
Space blankets are not very warm and the tear easily. You are better off getting a bolt of 1-200 weight ripstop and spraying it with diluted outdoor silicone sealant. Put some tarp grommets in the corners and you've got a 200$ survival tarp for 30$. Another good cheap piece of kit is an adapter for refilling Nick lighters from a iso butane tank. Everyone has them and very few people realize that they are a replenishable resource.
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>>134856602
You gave me a hypothetical and I answered it. Obviously I never proposed that I was going to head in to the mountains. Mountains are a terrible place to try to head in to anyway -- an uphill battle.

But then you have to wonder if your variation of psychosis is going to be helpful if and when the time comes.
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>>134855977
>You done sperging about your lack of viable munitions

>A Hi-Point is the PEAK of nigger technology!!

Shivering in muh boots, here.
>A horde of niggers
>whatever shall I do!!

Niggers know better than to leave their cities.
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Cool thread OP! But what are we prepping for exactly?
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>>134856857
>But then you have to wonder if your variation of psychosis is going to be helpful if and when the time comes.
He is trying to get you to understand the ideas and thoughts from a totally different mindset. People in the city have all their conveniences at their fingertips. If you've ever lived outdoors you understand theres a lot that goes into living that you take for granted.

Ever thought about how you shit in the woods? Theres lots of ways to do it, but only a few correct ways.

Hes just arguing through mindsets so you can understand. Whether or not you take action its up to you.
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>>134857062
Anything.
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>>134856913
>Niggers know better than to leave their cities
Until they do, which they will. All the more reason I intend to shoot to kill, you evidently do not. Thanks for playing though!
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>>134857125
It's an ineffective and counterproductive form of psychological warfare for the target demographic of channers.
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If you're not watching Steve1989 off of MRE Info getting creative ideas and tips on how to eat well on an MRE/repetitive ration diet with all of your prepping food, things for you aren't going to turn out very

Nice
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>>134834367
I'm not rich enough to have a prepper bugout shelter ready to go, so instead I keep a camp shell for my truck and enough supplies in my garage to load up and just drive into the woods and live out there for at least 4 or 5 months, and that's without any hunting or fishing, both of which I would be doing a lot of.
If it was like TOTAL SHTF apocalypse, my plan is to try and start a small vegetable farm and hopefully form some sort of mad max township with other survivors after the great die off.
Really though, I should try and network with some other groups doing something similar since having a group to defend our setup and sleep in shifts would be much better.
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>>134856060
>How DO you prep when living in a city?
Learn what to drink.
Learn how to shit.

>How does I done survive on 12 cases of Gatorade and 3lbs of Slim Jims?

You're a nigger.
No one cares. There's a billion more niggers still in Africa.
>B-But, MUH dik!!
You poor nigger bastard.
If your DIK can't filter disease, no one cares.
>B-But, MUH dik!!!
Yes. Your DIK.
Learn how to do something useful, you pathetic bastard.
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>>134837768
Nice. I was looking for a solution (pun) for that.
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how do you prep for pic related?
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>>134854639
arent those proved to be useless already?
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>>134857314
>muh feelings

Better get over yourself quick.
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Stock piling arms.
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>>134857524
Start gardening now mate.

As with any plan, you won't be wanting to work your way through the all the different pittfalls the first time through. It blew my mind what I could do with some buckets and seedlings on the front porch, or some troughs and grow lights in the basement.

But moving up to some raised bed in the back yard has been a whole new learning experience. Try it.
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>>134857062
Unfinished business.
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>>134857636

For what, video editing? Don't see what there is to prepare for desu
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>>134857711
I only get feelings about butchering animals or performing gross medical procedures. You can discuss these kinds of things for the betterment of all if you like.
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>>134856857
>You gave me a hypothetical and I answered it.

BRAVO!! You done got 105 out of 100!!!
I'm still gonna shoot you in the face, when you "run for the hills".
You bring NOTHING to the table.
>Nuh-uh I'm alive.
>You HAVE to feed me, and my CROTCHFRUIT!!
>You OWE us!!!!

I don't owe you shit.
You're an empty hole.
>FEED ME!!!@!!!!
Sorry. No Faceburg out here.
No Instacunt, or Twatter, or who gives a fuck.
You're a hole.
An eater.
An anchor.

A parasite.
No one here wants you.
Stay in your city.
Go to an (((Art))) museum.
You're the foundation of civilization, after all.
Stay There.
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>>134835700
Im the reason they want to introduce limits on powder storage for consumers. My digs goes up, all 28 floors go with it.
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>>134856429
fucking hell
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>>134845678
>"prepare yourself psychologically to live in psychological nightmare conditions"
How'd you do this anon, move to mexico or brazil?
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>>134837244
.....good bye hor-ses.........
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>>134858292
>fucking hell
What do you mean? You can literally have 1000 rounds of whatever you think is best to your door by clicking on on the interenet.
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>>134858035
I can only speak for myself as I am from Canada, but not being able to hunt or fish up here during the winter is a death sentence. There are not many foragables here during certain parts of the year, and foraging is unreliable calorie wise. If they are near you or you haven't eaten in a long while go for it, otherwise stick to hunting and fishing.

Learning to take an animals life so you can live is pretty gruesome, and so is field dressing it, but its a necessary skill to have if you want to survive in the wild. Fish aren't so bad but when you kill a fresh deer and you are pulling out its warm moist guts out of its torso...

Of course, if you are stuck in the city you may never have these options.
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>>134858292
>fucking hell

You poor, dumb, nigger bastard.
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>>134858340

Great song for how gay it is.
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>>134858437
I'll speak for myself. I was such a wuss as a little child that my family who did hunt, fish, getchyer deer then, and dressed even a few squirrels or a rabbit that night to make family dinner, that I never learned how to do any of that.

It's one of my biggest regrets in life. It should always be taught to the youth.
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>>134856799
>spraying it with diluted outdoor silicone sealant
How do you do that anon?
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>>134840875
Mormons are the prepper religion. Jews are cityfucks who will hopefully be among the first to die when the race war starts.
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>>134857636
Print ayyy lmao memes.
Psyop their ass into an intergalactic alliance.
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>>134836676
https://www.amazon.com/Discount-Mylar-Bags/pages/3445625011

Be smart and use mylar bags stored inside plastic drums/buckets with tight lids. A properly set up mylar rice/beans/oats bag will keep for 20 years. When SHTF, you'll only need fresh water and heat for highly nutritious food.
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>>134857897
Uncle H got that right.
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>>134858393
>What do you mean?

He means that he once thought of having 75 rounds as the road to becoming a KANG.

10 rounds is a prince in the ghetto.

15?
>OH LAWDY!! HE DONZ BE RELOADING AN SHEEIT!!

Niggers aren't that bright.
And they don't think much beyond the next 2 minutes.

50,000 rounds is godhood to a nigger.
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>>134858129
Well, I don't think you really get prepared for it 100%, but I do this: >>134846610

Also, I started to sleep with out a pillow and sometimes I sleep on the ground with only a yoga mat underneath me and a blanket over me (to get used to harsher conditions, but ironically it makes my spine feel amazing so I do it all the time cuz it's better than sleeping with a pillow and I sleep better).
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>>134834367
>be irrelevant nation-fag
>and a rural one on top of that
>have permaculture
>and supplies left over from the geat war too
Get fucked boyo, I'm safer now than you will ever be.
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>>134859347
You only says dat becouse it's the trut
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>>134859305
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9c0-ZC-4-E

>>134859330
Sleeping on the ground gets old if you don't practice flexibility. But it's great if you do because you can just sleep anywhere you have some space to lie down. 3rd world squat is also tits.
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>>134857636
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>>134859594
>3rd world squat is also tits
You got that right, 30 minutes per day on slav meditation pose and your mobility goes thru the roof (even your digestion gets better).

>CIA NIGGERS!!!!!
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>>134859594
Is that what you faggots call an "E-Celeb"?

>Gibs Moneys Plox!!
Holy shit.
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>>134859921
t. shill
leol, you're so pathetic
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>>134859658
KEK :)
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>>134859878
There are many circumstances in which I use the 3rd world squat. One of them is weeding my garden.

Good shit. Best way to shit.
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>>134860049
There are IDs here, cunt.

Sorry if I insulted your daddy. Or your mommy. Or your, whatever the fuck it is.

(It's still your daddy.)
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>>134860205
lol, you're right, its just that shills tend to call anyone who as any exposure in jewtube a e-celeb to try to divide and conquer and I didn't check your id before replying.

That guy is a schizophrenic programmer who says he killed CIA niggers and that they have green blood.
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back in the day they used to treat wounds by splashing it with whiskey (disinfectant) and then sprinkling it with sulphur (fungacide)
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>>134860551
>jewtube

is for watching commercials, and chicks who were hot 20+ years ago.

And for pirating music, except no one here would evar do that.

And, now for something you'll really like.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YWSbg0xFjk
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>>134857703
Depends on what you expect from them. All they do is stop your soft tissues from absorbing radioactive particles. It doesn't protect you from dosing. You don't stay in the fucking hot zone. PI plus a mask and basic NCB gear can keep you relatively safe for a few days while you get the hell out of wherever you are. The only real way to be safe around radiation is to not be around it. A 30$ .
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00STXXSEU/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1500974057&sr=1-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=gas+mask&dpPl=1&dpID=51HRARx3xbL
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>tfw no freedom
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>>134860808
Nice lyrics.

How did you knew I would like that so much? :)
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>>134861274
I want that gun to bully me.
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>>134861333
>How did you knew I would like that so much? :)

Because Diane Lane was fucking hot 30 years before she played Superman's mother.
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>>134838025
Cityfags will be the zombies in the coming zombie apocalypse.
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>>134839060
Solution: if SHTF, gtfo of the city.
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>>134856602
You sound like you're brain damaged
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>>134846661
>It takes like 12 squirrels to make a burger.
Bullshit. 2-3 squirrels is a considerable amount of meat (if served with something on the side like rice or beans) and the hide can be made into a hat, gloves, or boots. Those city park squirrels tend to be a lot smaller than the ones found in a real forest because of food availability.
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>>134848988
This depends on how you're prepping. White rice contains little to no real nutrition other than some empty calories. Brown rice will certainly go bad faster, but it provides much more nutritional value. You might want to rotate some brown rice stores for short-term emergencies.
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>>134849771
http://www.luckygunner.com/rimfire/22-lr-ammo

Availability has always been good online.
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>>134851174
>You've never been hunting, have you?

LOL this. I can sit in one spot in the forest and take squirrels all day. Those fuckers are dumb as shit: shoot their friend and they'll just sit in a tree barking and throwing nuts at you.

Deer tend to be similar: if they hear a shot, they'll look in the direction it came from. If they cannot see danger, they won't get spooked.
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>Discount aisles are your friend my dudes.
Make sure to also buy shit needed to keep you clean. I.e. Soap. Not citing facts but just conjecture that a lot of people died in the old days just from being dirty all the time.
> Make friends with useful skills
You are going to need people. Going it alone just means you'll die alone at some point. Make friends but choose the right friends.
> Bob works a job in an office and plays video games in his free time. Shit posts on /pol/
> Tim is a likable guy. He is an EMT and used to work on cars with his dad when he was a kid.
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>tfw if shit hits the fan I will have no guns to defend myself
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Get a hunting dog. Another mouth to feed but a valuable one at that, also dried dog food is cheap as fuck and is safe for human consumption if you got nothing else. I got 2 hunting dogs and they are extremely good alarm systems even when they are sleeping also very practical in the wild as they can sense danger before you.
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>>134863368
There are more ways than 1 to kill something my man. I'm waiting for my gun licence since it's pain in the ass process here but I got a loads of cold wepons, swords, axes, knives and the likes. Heck in a dire situation a baseball bat or a golfclub might mean the difference between life or death.
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>>134834367
Being a prepper is the same as being a cuck, pathetic
> you are literally no better than a bullied NEEt wishing for better days
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>>134863368

I'll have you know buying anything in the UK with the intent of using it for self defence is a crime.
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>>134863499
>>134863647
what about shurikens, will they be useful
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>>1348343441
>Why? Better chance of escape in the initial chaos with many other running

You don't think there will be cops or "cops" seizing food and weapons from people fleeing? Creating barricades to bottleneck the flood of people?

Its better to secure your own location of make it as much of a hassle as possible for intruders the steal your food.
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>>134863927
Posting a pic as .gif should warrant the death penalty.
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>>134864105
Watch again
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>>134864070
If you can use them properly then I'd say yes, but im guessing you'd have to practice a couple days a week for some time before you could use them with an effect.
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>>134864162
Good. Keep it up, you just might make something out of yourself.
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>>134834367
I live in a urban area. If SHTF I'll have to rely on my scavenging skills. Staying put is not an option.
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>>134863928
Then buy it with a different intent.
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>>134864405
>living in the city and not having a weekend estate 2hrs drive away
Sort yourself out anon.
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>>134864370
> atleast im not a prepp larper
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your post apoc hero fantasies are never going to come true. the decline of civilization will be a slow and steady descent into madness.
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>>134864511
This isn't Serbia. Shit's expensive here. I can't just buy a country estate with a few loaves of bread and goat, as I assume is your custom, but thanks for the tip. I'll keep that in mind.
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>>134864574
>knowing how to use different weapons and what you can and can't eat/drink in a situation that food/water ia not readily available is larping
You are just a sheltered, weak, spoilt, city dwelling NEET that couldn't survive a 2 day backpacking mountain hike.
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>>134864843
Nah, you're just a poor fag without relevant ancestors that were tradesmen in the 19th and 20th century so you didn't inherit anything of worth and you will also die a poorfag without anything to pass onto your children. Assuming that you can even get a stiffy and find a guilable enough girl to let you poke her with it.
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>>134865145
lol, go sleep with your mom and relieve some of that stress. I hear that's popular past time there.
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>>134834367
I've got enough guns and ammo, and some water and food. Problem is I live with other people who don't help prep, they have the attitude of "well if something happens I'll just borrow some of your stuff".
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>>134865531
Ya think you're hot shit, dontcha?!
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>>134865531
>leaf
>knowing anything about anything
Listen, I'm sorry that chinks keep invading your country and driving up prices of real estate so you can't even afford a wooden shed but that's not a reason to be jealous and mad at people who live a much better life than you. Sort yourself out anon.
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So.. Can we go back to Prepper talk and ignore the leaf who will die if SHTF?
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>>134865760
pfff, yeah.

>>134865889
I'm happy for you but your fake pity and presumption are uncalled for and leads me to believe you are unsorted.
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>>134866353
Sadly i think the prep talk is over. Good thread tho, some nice advice was passed around.
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>>134866595
I got some good pics saved as well.
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>>134866402
I merely made a joke about you not having a weekend estate before you got all butthurt and defensive so I turned to bantz. No hard feelings leaf, it's all in good faith.
I was unsorted until 3 months ago when lots of bantz made me start sorting myself out
>workout every day
>do chores on the regular
>started learning how to fix random stuff around the house
>dropped alcohol and tobacco 2yrs ago
>need only to drop the herbal jew so I can become a defender of the withe race
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>>134866353
lol, you preppers are hilarious. I bet you've never had to spend more than a week in the wilderness. Larpers like you will be the first to go.
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>>134866809
Naw, I'm not mad. Just busting your balls. Good work on the sorting. I've really been focusing on the /fit/ aspects lately. Rule one of survival is good physical conditioning, that and staying dry.
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>>134865013
Keep telling yourself that
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>>134835059
No fucking excuse you fucking poorfag
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>>134866831
Hey, overstocking on supplies I agree is ridiculous but getting /fit/ mentally and physically is 90% of survival in dire situations. Also going on a weekend camping trip once a month with just a few essentials is a must for anyone who thinks himself a man.
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>>134844420
friendly reminder that all fresh water fish are edible (even if they sometimes might taste like shit). in the wild, you will burn more calories foraging than what you get out of it, so outside of using a firearm for birds and mammals (also all edible), hooking or trapping fish is the best option.
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>>134844486
never seen nails like this - or is this somekind of a washer in the middle of its body and the rest of the hed is somehow home made? Never seen any nails with heads like this.
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>>134835059
Start stocking up like a week's worth of cans, get a few can's each grocery run, they only cost a few bucks.

Apart from anything else, inflation means investing in food means you save 'wealth' over time by storing food like that.
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>>134867456
I think harvesting is a must for a prolonged stay. Fishing will help you a lot but without a steady, reliable and replenishable source of food you are done for in a long run.
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>>134834367
Top fucking kek. Economical collapse is the least of our problems.
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>>134845073
What exactly stops the already lifted pins from falling down again wouldnt you need to support them?
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>>134867533
Those are pop rivets
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>>134834367
Preppers are just clinically paranoid. But it's your money.
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>>134867321
Guns, guns, guns. A gun should not be your first choice for a true SHTF scenario. Of course it is great to have but ammo is heavy, limited, you have to keep it dry and it's loud as fuck, and if you can't stay in one place that's going to be a problem. A good compound bow is what you want as your default weapon. You want a great pair of boots, maps, binoculars, compass and general outdoor wear, a machete and or hatchet, fishing rod, tackle, plenty of bait, a good buck knife, a single person tent, sleeping bag, salt, pepper, lard and a big bag of oats, one small pot, a skillet, plenty of socks and underwear, a flint lighter and a few other odds and ends. A short wave radio receiver and or a two way radio you can charge in the sun is a good investment too. If you plan on a gun alone getting you out of a true SHTF scenario you might as well just use it to kill yourself.

>>134867404
Yeah, mang.
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>>134856429
>not 10,000
Honestly, I'd say the true right amount is "however much you have room for once everything else has been stored"
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>>134867321
Anon, I know nothing about guns. Do I need to past shooting tests or something like that? If Jamal, Mohammed or Pedro are in close range, inexperience with firing will do the trick or is constant practice needed?
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>>134868324
You're an idiot.

A bow is fine to have, but your first shtf purchase should be an AR.
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>>134835059
Invest in tobacco. That will be a good bartering item, just buy some cheap pounds of shredded tobacco for rolling your own.
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>>134868930
Fuck that. 12 gauge shotgun loaded with slugs and a magnum revolver as a side arm. 5.56 is not a good choice for stopping a bear or a charging moose. For killing grouse, squirrels and such like a slingshot is enough. For deer a bow will do. For a rifle I'll take a .30-06.
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>>134869491
.30-06 bolt action*
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>>134868324
> you need camping gear and a fucking pussy bow to survive a zombie outbreak, nuclear wasteland, red dawn invasion, or the Jamalcalpyse
We're talking about prepping, not fagit montana cowboy rping you fucking leaf
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>>134844486
Built/10
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>>134868751
I don't know kraut laws cuz I don't live I your communist regime. Get to Norway, Finland, Croatia, or Serbia to be free

And yes, perfect practice makes perfect performance. Derka derkas can't shoot for shit and don't even take the drug and pimp money that wallow in to even afford a decent fucking scope or tritium irons. Go to the woods and practice quick drawing and running through a series of obstacles. Competitive shooting like 3 gunning will vastly improve your skills to remove kebabs
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>>134869924

oh god you did a really shitty job of it
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>>134850007
I don't know where you live but a walk in the woods around here and you will come across many shell casings.

>>134850007
>Cityfags often boast and take selfies of themselves at the gym. Being physically fit is important if you want to fire a bow.
So is practice.

>>134850007
>A gun is going to make a shit ton of noise and draw a lot of attention/scare animals away.
No, you underestimate their stupidity. Animals will look around, maybe run a little, but usually look around going wtf before returning to normal.

>>134851671
>If your aim is survival and subsistence? Use a bow.
Most people would starve.

>You can make an improvised bow and arrow at anytime from a wide variety of materials. Arrow heads can be made from flint knapping, a survival skill you should have regardless.
Oh boy, as much as I love the thought you would probably be better off making atlatls. The variance between every bow and arrow you make will be great. The snare would be a better investment.
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>>134869812
New flash, Canada is a giant forest for the most part and cities are a death trap in all of those scenarios. What do you think is going to happen when starving hordes of Jamal-Zombies find out your sitting on a stash?
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>>134869581
54mm black powder
t. I can be more autistic than you

Get a semi-auto or straight pull, you angloshits
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>>134869924
>>134870094

I'm sorry that was mean. I'd probably make a mess of the can when cutting too. As long as it works that's all that matters.
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>>134843893
Also if you grind bones they can be used as fertilizer.
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>>134853972
>Fuck guns vs bows.
Right, slings ftw.

>Of course, I've never had a gun "break". Not once. I still use a shotgun my grandfather won in a poker game in 1928.
>“buy a fucking .22 and some ammo, you daft cunts”.
To add to that you fuckers should buy gun cleaning supplies as well. Learn to use them, nobody likes jams and rust.
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>>134837244
dont tell immediate family either. best case scenario you wasted some money on food stored somewhere. worst case you magically have it if needed.
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>>134870268
Main reason: Fewer moving parts, easier to maintain

Revolvers, bolt actions and shotguns for the win.
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>>134837380
If you are living in a city, when shtf you will die in a city.
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>>134870219
>a couple dozen Tyrones want da gibs armed with knives and maybe a few glocks and an ak or 2, with less than 500 rounds of ammo overall and none of which have any medical supplies or experience and will chimp at the first sign of resistance
> you have a couple thousand rounds of ammunition and several rpgs and mortars and live with several well trained trusted companions-in-arms on a heavy fortified hilltop
Hmmm, do Antoines storm military bases as of today because they know thats where the gibmedats are? No? I didn't fucking think so
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>>134870271
Nah i did a shitty job at it, 90% sure this shit will not work with liquid.
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>>134868751
Actually, I plan to go to USA in a year or two once I have save enough money; I'm not going to stay here to wait while this country burns to the ground (and it will happen, by current girlfriend works for the BAMF - Federal Office for Migration and Refugees). Ideally Vermont or Maine. What I asked was because some guns, like the EAA Vindicator, quote:
>"...still has some issues of how long it will last with some problems occuring after a couple hundred rounds..."
i.e. How can I practice with this cheap gun if by the time I have finished a practice session the revolver might be busted?

Since while at it, any recommendations of places to go? I'm paranoid so would rather not be in the Yellowstone death range. I've read Vermont and Maine are great and I'm naturally built for cold (hang in my balcony with shorts and no shirt down to 0°C, usually just put on a shirt so my gf will feel better).
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>>134863927
k

http://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/the-theory-2/
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>>134870665
Never underestimate human wave tactics. It worked for the Russians.
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>>134870549
> never cleaning your shit
God, you leafs are fucking gross. Do your women even clean their snatches on their periods or is it just "too hard to maintain"

Single payer healthcare socialism: not even once
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>>134864093
This. When SHTF cops will be thinking about making sure its not THEIR children that starve to death. Ppl are so pluged in into this false sense of security they don't grasp how much things change when SHTF.
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>>134867727
tension, you rotate the bolt to hold them
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>>134864755
>What is this time we live in but a constant madness already
>What is a sovereign debt pension fund crisis (aka social system meltdown) with Western nations pumped full of violent low iq invaders who feel entitled to having everything given for free to them

I wish I was wrong you dumbass.

http://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/on-relative-superiority-and-the-migrant-invasion/
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>>134870873
>burger education
It's easier to clean and maintain. What about that makes you think it would be cleaned less often?
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>>134858035
Are you talking about the actual act of killing the animal or butchering it? In the case of killing what I learned as a kid is that you have to stop any thoughts about how the animal feels or what it is thinking. When you look at it and start to think man this poor thing probably feels horrified, kill the thought as soon as you recognize it. Don't look into the eyes, only at what you are doing, something about us is hardwired to get all sympathetic when looking at eyes. As for the actual butchering I have never understood the problem with that, however, I was raised on a farm around hunters so that may be part of it.
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>>134865561
Are those ppl loyal? Would they fight along side with you risking limb and life so both of you could live? Or would they run if that meant they'd live for sure and you'd die for sure? You may want to rethink your alliances.

>what are r-selected and K-selected traits in humans

http://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/the-theory-2/
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>>134867720
Prep for everything, start with what you think is most likely to happen.
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>>134862527
Still miss the good ol days of 550 rounds for $20. Not bad though.
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>>134867820
Off course, socialism isn't a giant ponzi scheme and when ppl start starving they just keep all peaceful and orderly until things get better, even if that means seeing your family die from a lack of nutrition.

>What is history
>What is reality when any kind of SHTF happens
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>>134858764
Use a solvent like ketone or alcohol just make sure to do it outside.
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>>134868751
This is important, ppl who have lived thru civil war in Bosnia say that many at the beggining of SHTF had never had gun training (everyone thought it would never happen, and that preppers were weirdos) but eventually some weeks after a military compund got runned over and abandoned, AKs started to flood the streets and everyone and their grandma got one, lots of ppl killed themselves and ppl from their groups accidentally because they didn't knew and TRAINED on how to safely operate the weapons. Keep that in mind.
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>get fit
>dry out, take a break from drugs
>learn to cope
>buy a good knife and axe
>go hiking and camping, overnight trips
>learn what you need to survive
>buy a gun
>any rifle trumps no rifle
>rifle beats shotgun
>shotgun beats pistol
>buy ammo to practice and take a course if newfag
>store at least 1000 rounds
>buy 72 food, water, meds, santitation learn to preserve and store
>take a med course
>buy appropriate meds
>store 30 days stuff
>store 90
>store 365
>sleep easy
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>>134870755
I am not sure if its in the YSDR but the U.P. of MI is cold, sparsely populated and majority white. Most people there are preppers anyway as each town is about and hour apart. Trappers and woodsmen everywhere, along with outhouse races in the winter. Everyone drinks or smokes weed though so either would be good trade goods.
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>>134859921
Terrence Andrew Davis is no....whatever the fuck you want to call him. Just an intelligent man with crippling disease.
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>>134870355
Good point.
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>>134870665
TRAPS are not just trannies.
If you can set it up that the first 50 or 100 or 200 ppl that try to invade your perimeter instadie (be smart about it, I mean, really think it throu so you don't accidental an hero or that animals trigger you shit) without you even doing shit, I would say it could add to the dissuasion and demoralization effect on the adversary.
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>>134870665
>waves without guns
> waves of coward animals
The Russians were not
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>>134837677
Fucks with me all the time senpai. Almost better off going quick and clean.
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>>134871784
So you put the silicone into alcohol, it dilutes. Can you apply it to the cloth with a brush? Sorry for the autismo, I'm not familiar with those materials.
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