No /pol/ lit thread? Pic related, my current digital library.

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>>134819174

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>>134819174
>all of Plato
>all of Aristotle
>the fucking Bible
You're a better man than I if you've actually gotten through all that. Might as well be the first to post this

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>>134819174

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>>134819458

I haven't. I've only read a handful of both Plato and Aristotle's works, and several books of the Bible. I skip around.

Thank you for the contributuon, I forgot about Hoppe.

>>134819813

These charts are often shit. I see several pieces that I'd like to read though. What the fuck is going on with the "Brown Pill?"

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Get on my

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>>134820288

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level, screenfags

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>>134820367

I'll try.

>>134820429

Blurry as fuck.

>>134820626
open in new tab and zoom in newfag

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>>134819174
>e-reader

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>>134820503

>screenfags

For the poorer amongst us it is a lot cheaper to buy digital copies.

Can't beat a nice, crisp hard copy though.

>>134820749

>newfag

Kid I've been around these parts far longer than you. I did just what you recommended, it's unreadable, kill yourself.

>>134820776

>autism

>>134819174
Plato is garbage and can be skimmed (not skipped but summaries suffice).
Stick to aristotle if you really wanna go down that path.

>>134821013

Why? I figured Aristotle and Plato would go hand in hand, Plato being the precursor to Aristotle.

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>>134820367
>>134820503
And in comes the clear winner.

I can debate any regressive and make anyone listen realize that the Liberals are the real racists.

Euphoria doesn't come easy though, I've read the top level books out there. I've spent time with it, so can you.

>>134820965
perfectly clear for me, newfag

>>134820965
i seriously doubt that

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>>134821368

Cool.

>>134821369

You are entitled to your doubt.

>>134820367
Cringeworthy

>>134820965
those spaces of yours indicate otherwise

>>134821106
yeah you gotta know what they said and where they disagreed each other to be a legit smart guy

Also opposing viewpoints help you clarify what you think. Aristotle often directly argues against Plato so that's conducive to becoming a master shitposter.

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>>134821671

Oh, does it? Le plebbiter, am I?

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>>134819174
About to finish Crime&Punishment, then I'll read Brave New World....doubt it's /pol/ related but whatevs

>>134819174
Explain diferences in the King James version of Bible please.

>>134822043
>doubts that Brave New World is /pol/-related
Sweetie...

>>134819174
>No /pol/ lit thread?
Yes.
>Pic related, my current digital library. Lost my SD card that had all of my /pol/ recommendations, could really use some help lads
Oh no.

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>>134822043

Brave New World is a must read for everyone in today's day and age.

Also, the Disappearance of Childhood, by Neil Postman.

>>134821710

Then that is exactly what I'll do; stop skipping around, start with Plato and move on to Aristotle.

>>134822355

Thanks for the bump faggot.

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>>134819174

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>>134822214
I meant Crime and Punishment. It does describe commies as degenerates tho

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>>134822837
>buy a 30 year old programming book you guys

>>134822124

The KJV reads better than the NIV. I enjoy the classical, poetic prose. I've read several books from both versions but different books from each version, so I couldn't tell you the precise differences in scripture until I reach that point where my reading has overlapped.

Sorry I can't be of more help. Maybe a kind Catholic anon can help you out on that one.

>>134822837
this

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I just finished "Glanz und Elend des Mittelalters", there is no English translation but it was definitely one of the better books I've read about the middle ages. Currently reading pic related.

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>>134823419
This is what I'm going to read next, together with Mark Fishers Capitalist Realism it's stuff I'm pretty excited for

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>>134823419

>>134822410
>Neil Postman
Read some of his stuff and I found it to be pretty reductionist. I completely ignores structural entanglement of media with the conditions of human existence, and comes over as a Luddite.

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>>134819174
These are the best books I've ever read on /pol/ topics.

Nietzsche - beyond good and evil*
Keen - Economics Debunked
HLM - A Chrestomathy
Harvey Silvergate - Three Felonies a Day*
None Dare Call it Conspiracy*

*required for all of /pol/

I'll be posting caps from Conspiracy and Three felonies a day.

>>134824019

Anyone who says this actually hasn't read Postman, as he clearly establishes that there will be no forseeable end to technological progress; he simply questions if our society truly understands that technology which we create, and the long term ramifications of the unbridled and unquestioned progress of technology.

Sorry, not even technology will produce a liveable communist utopia. Being a creation of man, technology is as imperfect as us.

>>134824040
>a libertarian promotes Steve Keen
lolwut

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>commit no crimes
>some Fed prosecutor asshole wants to make a name for himself
>have your job, family, and finances destroyed

we need to start using these anecdotes to political advantage. Not even the most lefty commie scumbag can defend these things.

From the book "Three Felonies a Day"

>>134821271
Literally the gayest fucking bookshelf ever

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>>134824314
>a commie
kek. Did you even read the chapter on Marxism? He views even the neoclassical ina more positive light.

>implying economic theory is needed to justify a belief that government is too big and intrusive
>implying I care about a priori theorizing without the supporting data

PS communism has the worst track record of any prominent political system in the 20th century

>>134824293
From what I've seen he sees technology too much as an isolated, dislodged phenomenon, ignoring it is entangled within our socio-economic reality and therefore takes on this commodified form. Technology can be a scary thing within our currently established mode of production, but I don't see why humans wouldn't be able to reattain their species-being in a technological word under the right conditions. Everything else is just going to end up in some form of primitivism.

>>134824314
another thing, Keen isn't actually a good economist outside of maybe finance. His policy proposals are fucking idiotic and he even says that FDR's New Deal "obviously worked".

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>>134824947
>fucking implying
Calm down, triggerina. I know he isn't a Marxist but he is in no way sympathetic to your homeboys as well. If you want a quasi-Marxist analysis of capitalism (backed up by data) read pic related.
>communism has the worst track record of any prominent political system in the 20th century
Pretty sure that's fascism. Also you shouldn't throw stones when you are sitting in a glass house, your ideology doesn't even have a history in the 20th century.

>>134825415
Yeah, then why the fuck do you shill it here? You are basically proving my point by outright admitting he is contrary to what you stand for. Instead you lose your shit and strawman me because I legitimately pointed out that it's weird to have a lolbert promoting a SocDem

>>134825432
>implying I even subscribe to any economic schools
TANSTAAFL is about the only thing I really believe in an economic sense (outside of finance). There's really no way to experiment in economics in the scientific sense, so most economic beliefs are unjustifiable.

>fascism
No, NS Germany's economic recovery before WW2 indicates it to be an order of magnitude better.

>that book
ok

>>134825604
his criticisms of standard Economics alone make the book informative. That doesn't mean I agree with anything he believes in a positive sense.

>>134825604
>legitimately pointed out that it's weird to have a lolbert promoting a SocDem
oh sorry I guess commies aren't used to critically thinking through books they disagree with. You might want to try it some time, your religion probably (definitely) isn't right about everything

>>134824953

>From what I've seen he sees technology too much as an isolated, dislodged phenomenon, ignoring it is entangled within our socio-economic reality and therefore takes on this commodified form.

Technology is an isolated, dislodged phenomenon. It is not of the natural world. It is purely because of our will that it exists. Were it not for us none of the present technology we see today would exist.

"Our" reality is illusory. Nobody experiences the same reality. We all have our own separate ideas of reality. Technology and Man are not one, and it is intertwined with no part of us, save the desire to produce and refine it. Simply put, technology is just a product of Man. Nothing ethereal or all-becoming about it. Technology is a tool. Modern society sees it as our destiny.

>Technology can be a scary thing within our currently established mode of production, but I don't see why humans wouldn't be able to reattain their species-being in a technological word under the right conditions. Everything else is just going to end up in some form of primitivism.

We can. Under the right conditions. Which he establishes.

I am no luddite. Technology is necessary, and the desire to create and innovate are one of the things that separate us from the lesser beasts that populate this Earth.

I wouldn't say our present societal conditions justify unbridled and unquestioned technological "progress." We are a society of leeches and workers, not of thinkers and innovaters. It will eventually collapse in on itself and there will be no more "technological progress" to be had for quite some time, because of our carelessness and misunderstanding concerning that which we create.

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>>134826067
>implying I even subscribe to any economic schools
According to your flag you subscribe to free market capitalism with small to zero state intervention. Is this not an economic school? Remember that before the neoclassical theory autism came up it was quite normal to talk about economics in the sense of "Polticial Economy". Would you support different systems of economic organization if their was no state to enforce the latter?
>scientific economics
I agree with you insofar that markets are unstable and erratic, and it is almost impossible to predict them. For a scientific economic model, read pic related, it involved economic planning on the basis of cybernetics.
>NS Germany's economic recovery before WW2
Fueled by foreign debt and a ponzi scheme (Mefo-Wechsel) that eventually forced Hitler to declare war before the army was even ready. It also got outpaced by socialism in terms of production output. And the soviet economy wasn't debt-fueld but entirely autarcial.
>ok
It's a good one because it uses methods from almost all the economic schools

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>>134827052
>cockshott

How would I go about reading books?

/pol/ books
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>>134826391
>commies aren't used to critically thinking through books they disagree with
Right back at you. How many people here you think have ever tried to read Marx in good faith and don't think that the Frankfurt School is some kabal of Jews and Freemasons hellbent on destroying western civilization. /pol/ is just as much of an echo chamber as the most dogmatic Maoist sect.

>>134827273
I know right? I can never decide if that's an unfortunate or a badass name

>>134827052
>according to your flag
kek.

>And the soviet economy wasn't debt-fueld but entirely autarcial.
yeah... except it sucked compared to any Western Capitalist country in terms of real growth, and relied on slave labor.

>Would you support different systems of economic organization if their was no state to enforce the latter?
Probably, but the benefits of a government are too great to even consider supporting such a situation.

>I agree with you insofar that markets are unstable and erratic, and it is almost impossible to predict them.
Nevermind the markets themselves. There is no way to test the effects of any policy proposal because there is no way to say if the "effects" are being caused by the policy or any other set of causes--of course, there are ways to nuance this statement, but the big picture remains as I've just described it.

>cybernetics
yeah if we just pump an infinite amount of tech into trying to make communism work maybe some day it will sound reasonable, kek...

>King James
>Not New American Revised

Plebs

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>>134828393
>the bible
>redpilled
top fucking kek. May as well read the epic of gilgamesh.

>>134827575
> /pol/ is just as much of an echo chamber as the most dogmatic Maoist sect.
No, there's wayyy broader debate here than on /leftypol/, who are such echo-heads they defend the "wages vs economic output" graph that uses two different deflation inflaters.

>>134821271
top kek

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from None Dare Call it a Conspiracy

>>134827433
thank you for this

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