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No memes, 100% serious. Are we ever going to witness the rise

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No memes, 100% serious.

Are we ever going to witness the rise of the single earner family again?
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No.
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Nigga have you stepped outside? There's a better chance of me having a 3 way with Janet Jackson and Fergi than this happening.
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>>134814170
Most definitly. There can be no doubt about it. And i hope that you, OP, will join me in providing enough for our women to sustain such a lifestyle.
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>>134814170
We are too far gone anon. We would forcefully have to put women under subservience.would be fun to do honestly
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Stay at home moms are usually just spoilt, suburban, pill popping, daytime TV watching, liberal voting, blog running cunts. I don't give a fuck if you have a pussy or not once that kid leaves for school your ass better get back to work I'm not running a fucking slut charity over here
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>>134814170
In all serious
No memes attached
Its probably never going to happen again. Or not in our life time
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>>134815125
Well, i see it diffently. My wife works her butt off, raising our kids. There is a lot of stuff to do, when you have a large family. I would much rather have her raising my children, imprinting them with love and confidence, instead of having some stranger impose their mongrel ideas upon them, corrupting their character.
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>>134815438
that's what we all want, But its A LOT harder to reach that now than it was say 50-60 years ago
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I doubt it will ever be normalized to the extent it was in the past but it is definitely still possible today with some effort. What you can do is try to achieve it, and make sure your friends and those around you know you've achieved it. Pride yourself on it, and make sure that you explain that you have this system in place not purely for luxury reasons or to pamper your wife, but for the traditional, reactionary reasons that have justified the male and female gender roles for generations.
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>>134814170
Only if Islam wins.
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>>134815563
Well, that just isn't true!
The buying-power-index (idk what its called in english), has doubled for americans, since the 60s.

You have to be willing to economize. It is possible to live comfortably, on one decent salary, if you know how to not waste your money.
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>>134815125
dude dont ever talk to my wife or her son ever again
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>>134815652
Well put.
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>>134814170
No until society totally collapses first.
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Almost impossible to afford anything on a single-income so no
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>>134816205
>No
not
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>>134814170
I don't think we'll stop at single earner families

I think before it's all done the world will settle back into large families with retainers and servants, too.
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>>134816130
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>>134814170
After a global fascist uprising yes. It will make a comeback when Imperialism rises, and the removal of undesirables begins.
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>>134816243
I can't speak for the situation in america, but my family could definitly do it on my current salary.
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>>134814170
Demand a protectionist economy with tariffs that prevent cheap manufactures made with slave labor from flooding into the market and you can have your single earner family tomorrow
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>>134816463
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>>134816491
Keep dreaming, dude. That will never happen.
That is like the commies waiting for the revolution...
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>>134814170
Depends on where you live.

I make a highish salary and it's enough for my wife to stay home with the kid while having all our ends met, but that's because I live in Mississippi where the cost of living is supremely low.
If I lived in jew york I doubt I'd be able to get away with it.
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>>134814170
Yes but now we earn only for ourselves.
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>>134816599
Is there even a difference between a libertarian and a minarchist?
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>>134814170
Mormons in Utah? Who knows man
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>>134816205
>I fucked 60 guys in two semester
>DO NO EVEN DARE TO THINK YOU CAN FUCK ME
>I NOW WANT EMOTIONAL SUPPORT
Assuming it's real, It is pretty fucking disgusting. Stick you wiener in there once and i bet you'll get some unknown mutated and untreatable std. Makes me want to vomit.
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>>134814170
No it's done sadly, I've been called crazy and savage because I've said women should stay home and take care of kids.
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>>134816791
Well you are doing it wrong then.
Women don't want to be forced to do anything. You have to persuade them, that being a mother and a homemaker is an important job, which by any measure it is.
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>>134816723
A degree of autism.
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>>134816649
We will gas you too fucking kike. You and your hooknose banks are going to burn. People are no longer believing the jewish lies you peddle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03Scv1Styzc
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>>134816205
>I carry myself highly

Yeah... about that...
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>>134817108
Fuck you, you moron. I am the most aryan superhuman you have ever had the fucking priviledge of speaking with.
I am doing more for the 14 words, that you ever have.
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>>134814170
I wish. Id love to be a kept man.
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>>134817114
She don't fuck around
except for like 60 times once
but not anymore
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>>134816723

Libertarians are statists that like weed, minarchists think the government should be there to provide for national defense and the courts and that's about it.
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>>134814170
Why not? Nigger households are doing it with zero earner fambulees.
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>>134814493
>3 way with Janet Jackson and Fergi
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>>134816205

>Fucked 60 guys

Why?
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>>134814170
Yeah, after the virus wipes out 60% of the population.
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>>134815438
my wife is lazy and never puts out. I was an idiot and got her pregnant right away (on purpose) because I believed the 2012 mayan apocalypse.

On the other hand, my 3 kids are great.

She's definitely getting her ass back to work that unappreciative moron doesnt deserve how hard I work so she can sit around and be a fatass, then yell at me because her dad beat her mom regularly and she hates men.
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>>134817277
>doesn't believe in the cause
>says he is superior
You are fucking kike deserving of a firing squad.
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>>134817545
muh empowered vagina
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>>134814170
Fun meme, but unfortunately, no. The cost of living is rising every year and there's no way for most families to enjoy the luxury. I have a few girlfriends that married pretty affluent guys and they still work because they feel like they "have to." So, two things would need to happen: 1) cost of living goes down and 2) some sort of societal regression where women are somehow tricked into going back into the kitchen.
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>>134816205
>I don't fuck around

Damn straight
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>>134815276

hilarious that we have essentially gone backwards in time and everyone cheers it on as progress. Bring this up to normies and they puff up the most "out there"/weakest arguments with the strongest faith you will ever see, and it's incredibly easy to break, but unlike most truths they will swallow it.
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>>134817651
I am sorry to hear that, man.
It really is none of my business, but it sounds to me, like your marriage needs to be strengthened. There are ways to do that.
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>>134817821
any advice? I've resigned to be a monk about it all (but I yell back when the kids aren't around, and sometimes when they are, unfortunately)
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>>134814170
Never.
Women are already expected to find work, When women entered the work force, they dropped the value of all jobs by half. As the value of the dollar dropped average income did not rise because the value of labor has been dramatically lowered.
We will never see any average joe jobs that allow for a stay at home spouse again
tl;dr the jews and their lies
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>>134817924
Why have it come to this? Have you ever liked each other? Sorry to sound like a wuss, but i just have to know.
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>>134814170
Probably not, and you can thank the rise of automated home appliances for that. It used to be that women would spend all day taking care of the home. Now they effectively have Rosie the Robot to do it for them, so if they stay home all day with no kids and without anything to do they become this: >>134815125
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>>134815438
How many kids do you have? I'm working hard now to make that a reality for when I start a family down the line
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>>134815125
>I'm not running a fucking slut charity over here
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>>134815125
No. That's just American women in general.
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>>134817924
Stay together for the kids. For now.
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>>134814170
There's only 1 way
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>>134817940
Well that is just downright wrong.
When women entered the workforce, it liberated a huge amount of unused resources in the form a labour. But it is not like there is a limited need for labour. Since the women joined the workforce, we have simply invented new things to do.
The average worker today earns much more, than he did in the 60s
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Only if women stop going to college. They take on enormous debt and pay off almost none of it by the time they're approaching the wall of age 30 and scrambling to find a man to marry their fucking finances. Higher education is one of the worst scams in the West.
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>>134818272
I have 3 kids, the 4th on the way. I have always wanted a large family. My wife says that this will be our last, but i could probably go for no. 5 aswell.
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>>134817924
hide your assets
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>>134818124

she's been married before... somewhat of a slut (she was pulling her pants down the first night I met her and offered her a ride home)....

Honestly I am OK with her but she doesn't approach me with any grace about minor issues she has, and waits for me to make a mistake then correct me in an aggressive tone.

I never really got a chance to bond with her....but I still respect her like anyone else. She used to drink a lot and has tons of friends, but mostly superficial.

She's also not very bright unfortunately, so she doesn't feel like she needs to change.

We saw a marriage counselor weekly for 6 months and I learned about coping with a bitch, but every time we went she acted all bubbly and like "everything is great"... sad!
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>>134817924

>>134818316
What this dude says, is right.. However i think you can rebuild the relationship. But is has got to take work.
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>>134817333
I wonder what she really thinks about that number... Is it normal to her?

I wonder (((who))) could have implanted that notion.
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>men forced to work a job
>women forced to stay in the home
>single couple is able to do everything

Women's 'liberation' happens.

>men forced to work a job
>women forced to work a job
>single couple dependent on the state to raise their children

gg feminism, you really gave woman a 'choice' didn't ya

I guess men were CHOOSING to work themselves to death for all those centuries right?
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Technology and daycare/public schooling killed the role of the traditional housewife. Most tasks can be done in a fraction of the time and effort. Unless she's gonna homeschool you kids and don't have money to spend on a dishwasher and other shit she may as well get a job and pour more money into the household.
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>>134818617
How to handle a woman who is disrespectful and barks / hen-pecks me about everything?
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mock or ignore
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>>134818807
You don't.
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>>134818807
Ahhhh, a challenge men have faced since the dawn of time...
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>>134818383

Bullshit. Wages have stagnated and all we have now is tv with 1090 channels
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>>134816088
That depends on the index and what sort of goods they're talking about. Food has gotten cheaper if you go for the lower quality stuff out there. A lot of goods have gotten cheaper if you go for made in China, sold at Wal-Mart. Our average wages compared to cost of living has gone way down, and there's that especially nasty effect since the great recession when a whole lot of pensions went away. Gen X will be the first generation in the US to see a true decrease in average pay, not just a slacking of the percentile growth.
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>>134817651
>She's definitely getting her ass back to work that unappreciative moron doesnt deserve how hard I work so she can sit around and be a fatass, then yell at me because her dad beat her mom regularly and she hates men.

damn. People like to be tradlarpers on here but I honestly want my wife to work; a well ran household does not require someone to be there 24/7. Plus women aren't creative enough to cook
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>>134814170
we can have any kind of world we want - it just takes a bit of effort
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>>134814170
when you stat being a traditional man and not a woman hating faggot
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>>134818604
Okay... It can get like that with my wife from time to time. Probably not as bad, but i feel like i can relate.

What you do is, you become assertive. If she says something to you, you take as an insult, ask her directly, but in a nice way. "Honey, the way i understand what you are saying, you are trying to insult me. And i don't understand, if, or why you tried to insult me." Disarm her every argument by insisting on a constructive dialogue. It is damn fucking difficult! Especially when you get mad! But over the years, my wife and I have trained our communication, and the number of arguments just decrease year after year. We get better and better by insisting on improving our relationship, through communication.
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>>134819023
my dad died before I was born so I never had an example to follow (mom was always single). I guess I should just accept my wife, but she's honestly really tough - tougher than any other woman I've dated (about 5 serious gfs before getting married)
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>>134816205
>Goddess
Instant sign that you're dealing with a stuck-up whore.
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>>134819230
good advice. I'll try to keep my cool
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>>134819213
People don't like traditional men. They are too "square and strait edge" for today.
If you preach conservative values you will be put in a room. Act like a degenerate and you get popular.
It's just how things are now.
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>>134816599
I ain't even memeing

neo feudalism is the ultimate future
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>>134816088
Your English is good, but your commas are giving me a headache

>>134817545
bc muh sex junk (is so oh oh oh)
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>>134818807
don't engage, don't acknowledge her shit-flinging, be like an unmovable stone wall. Treat her like you'd treat a child throwing a tantrum, deprive her of the attention she craves
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>>134818807
You need to take control. Now, taking control is not you becoming more of a chad, scolding and screaming more.

Taking control means two things: You need to be able to handle what she says to you as a man would. If she is being unfair, tell her directly, but in a friendly non-combattant way that she is being unfair. Be assertive, and understand that conflicts are almost never a good thing i a relationship. That doesn't mean you should change anything or be affraid of a conflict. That is possibly, the worst you can do. But realize that you can make changes in the relationship, without the need of escalation.

The second way, is recognizing that sometimes she is right. If so. honestly apologize, and then actually make a change. Be better!
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>>134819809
I am sorry! In danish we use a fuckton of commas.
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>>134814170
>Are we ever going to witness the rise of the single earner family again?
Only with basic income.
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>>134819493
Absolutely wrong. Being an mature adult male will give you an attraction no person, man or woman, can really deny. You need to find your inner man. I would advise you reading King Warrior, Magician, Lover.

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/91781.King_Warrior_Magician_Lover

It is a difficult read, but i personally got a lot out of it. You can skip the parts about mythology, and go to thepsychology parts. Then the book is less than 100 pages.

I actually have a PDF file of it, if anyone is interested.
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>>134819014
fucking based
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>traditional values
>modern capitalism

pick one
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>>134818807
If she hen pecks you in private, shes a normal wife, mate.

If she does it in public, you need to take her aside and have a sit-down-and-look-at-my-fucking-face-because-i-will-NOT-say-this-again talk about it. She has to know it won't end well for either of you if she keeps it up. it's not right to nitpick your partner in front of others.
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>>134820067
The most idiotic post, in this entire thread. Who do you think will pay for that basic income? Yourself, you inbred mongoloid. It is like giving a blood transfusion from your left arm to your right, while spilling 10% of the blood on floor in the process.
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There's no way anyone with even a modicum of power would remove the enormous boost to the economy that women workers provided. We've come to rely on it to the point that reversing it has the potential to bankrupt the West.
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>>134814170
Millienals aren't really having kids, and without kids your wife will just essentially get bored and have a job more as a something to do.
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Should be called 7 good reasons to make white babies.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=BCD2LLfFPzQ
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>>134819014
>that cheeky "socialism kills"

every time
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>>134820482

it's always in private... I guess it's normal, weird
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I'd just like to simply add that I'm now at an age when women begin to have kids on purpose for a change. Every women I know who did things the "traditional" way of going to school, starting a career, getting married, AND THEN getting pregnant all want to be full time moms. Every last one wants to put whatever career or professional life on hold to be professional mother and wife.
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>>134819963
Be better... got it, thanks for the advice pal
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>>134814287
fpbp
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>>134819820
Weird you mention it as I typed it I thought I actually have 4 children to deal with, including her.
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>>134820678

I'm not even a NEET r9k poster but it's pathetic and shows the level of mental control (((they))) have to make you think you NEED to slave for a Jew run multinational otherwise you'll get bored.

People never study? Exercise? Volunteer? Without the arts we're just tool users like apes.
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>>134816649
I recommend reading some Oswald Spengler, because he isn't wrong. When western countries' native population loose their power through democracy and demographics, things will begin to change drastically. It won't be the fascism of the last century, but if the west is to survive then democracy must be sacrificed.
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>>134814170
Women have to go back to being just a little bit less valuable than food or water. So no..not unless some planet-wide tribulation or happening occurred.
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>>134820948
Haha, i hope you don't misunderstand my. I think you are trying to make a bit of fun.
I just wanted to say, that sometimes you are in the wrong, and your relationship only improves if you improve.
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>>134819963
also, my worst fear is to be like her dad, a drunken dude who puts up with his wife nitpicking him and putting him down in public

Probably why I react so harshly when she's unfair to me... but I like your style of being non-combatant and direct.
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>>134818807
avoid her if you can

>>134820999
heres a good thing about being the one who earns in your family,
you can tell her to do what the fuck you want and she needs to listen to you
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>>134820879

I hate women that get to have it all. Even the ones that don't slut around and just study a lot.

>okay honey now that I'm 35 and have given the best years of my life to a company, NOW I'll let you take care of me


It should either be one or the other- a career or marriage, just like the old days
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>>134814170
I live like this. Just pirate all movies and vidya. Plan to do fun ahit once a month. Amd pick up cheap hobbies. We do skateboarding and perler beads. Im hoping to pick up a musical instrument soon.
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Posting this for anons' folders
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>>134821087
I think there is truth in that. I think at this point, it will be hard to avoid a civilwar or some armed conflict of a kind in europe. I am not some nutjob, but i am preparing for a fight.
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>>134821326
>a marriage or
>OR
>FUCKING OR

i dont think you really remember ye good olde days well
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>>134814170
It will happen when today's society implode and we have a Victorian type era.

It's not necessarily going to be Christian based...
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>>134821495

By the late Victorian period some women were working; but they were truly odd birds who had just stopped gaf. They knew they were going to die alone.
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>>134821296
I know what you mean. I have this image of my wife becomming like a mother to me. It freaks me the fuck out. And my wife is afraid of me becoming like a father to her. So we are constantly struggling to find some kind of balance in power in the relationship.
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>>134821326
I disagree a bit. I think a wife and mother choosing to put her career on hold until the kid is school aged is entirely appropriate but she should definitely go back into the work force when the kid is 5-6 or so, at least part time. There's no reason she shouldn't add to the family finances.
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>>134821448
>i am not a nutjob
you mean you're normalfag scum?

>>134821417
God bless anon
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>>134820850

senpai thats called 'living with another person for an extended amount of time'
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>>134821687
This is the arrangement i have with my wife.
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>>134814170
I'm a stay at home mom. I have two kids under 4 years old. I work hard every day cleaning our house. I scrub the bathrooms and wash the baseboards, vacuum every two days, et cetera. I decided with my husband that I would stay home because it's best for the kids and we're able to do it financially. Plus I got really sick of the feminist indoctrination I received up through graduate school and I secretly like that it pisses off leftist acquaintances who see me "wasting" my talents/credentials. My kids are remarkably happy and well adjusted. When they're older and more autonomous I'll have plenty of time to go back to work or pursue a PhD.
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>>134821683
i meant of general principle,
thats just exception that confirms the rule

the fact that women began working is (among others) a sign that those times aren't ye good' olde anymore
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>>134821687

A woman's place is in the home. No exceptions. Before kids she needs to devote her time to being the best housewife and companion possible, then being the best mother possible. You can develop your mind and personality without wagecucking.
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>>134821845
I love to hear this stuff. People have an entire life to pursue their careers. It takes just a handful of years to create a foundation for a really healthy family!
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>>134819048
How dare you blaspheme our channel overlord
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>>134821845

How would you feel about being a stay at home wife, provided you were supported?

My dream is to find some girl who studied something like German, history or music at Uni and wouldn't mind being a stay at home wife who had free time to keep cultivating herself.
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>>134821951
I like Christopher Hitchens approach to this better than your approach:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DNb17aYAQg
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>>134814170
>Are we ever going to witness the rise of the single earner family again?

No. It's not even economically feasible for most people to raise a family on a single income anymore due to market changes related to women entering the workforce. Women are not going to willingly go back to being chained to marriage anymore. While some can choose it, most won't.

Regardless this is all irrelevant since it's not the actions of women you should be concerned about. It's your own life. If you earn enough, you can find a woman willing to leech off of you and do the stay at home stuff. If you ever do attain this relationship, you are likely to be incredibly pissed off with how lopsided and unfair it is. Not that you ever will since you're an anime watching internet shitposter chucklefuck faggot.

tl;dr: traditional relationships are dead, and men need to stop whining about it and adapt.
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>>134814170
My husband turned me into a traditional wife. It's a big leap of faith to step away from having your own career and income and become subservient to a man, I dont think many women would do it. I get judged by other women for being a bimbo airhead going against feminism but my life is way better than theirs. They are posting about 'ughh monday back at work' memes on fb while I just got done finishing up some diy projects to make our house nicer and then made a roast dinner. When we have children I will probably homeschool or supplement their education with piano lessons etc. Like I said it's a big lifestyle change for the average bugman female... But would you rather have your boss own you or your husband own you?
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>>134814170
It's possible OP. I currently run a 4 person houshold on my salary alone and live a comfortable live. My wife is very traditional and hardworking. She is up before I am and has coffee and breakfast before I come downstairs. He keeps the house very clean and organized especially since she has two still in diapers to take care of at the same time. I work as an aircraft mechanic so it's not like I'm some doctor or software engineer.
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>>134814170
Not , inequality is necessary and we shouldn't do anything to lessen it.
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>>134822303

I get what you're saying but it's better to err on the side of caution. If you let some women work sometimes, then pretty soon all women will work all the time. Slippery slope is very real.
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>>134822082
That's how I see it. Plus I see my female friends having their first child at 35-37 and it makes no sense to me. Not good for the kids or the parents, and the mom inevitably goes back to work when the baby is 6-12 weeks old... total disaster.

>>134822275
I would love it. I love to study. I'm currently doing a Yale Open Course early medieval history class, watching Peterson's Bible lecture series, and attempting to read his recommended books. Also writing a YA fantasy novel. I can't keep up with it all but I'm trying. I would LOVE to be supported in this kind of thing and actually have ample time for it. I also want to learn the pennywhistle and take Irish singing lessons one day.
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I make 25k, have a wife and a kid. Live in a 3 bedroom, 2 bath home. 10k saved in savings for emergencies or future education.

It's easily doable. Question is are people willing to make the sacrifice. We're not rich but perfectly happy. Cost of living comes into factor as well. Our rent is 250 a month plus utilities.
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Housing cost to average earning ratio is about 35% higher than it was in the 1960's, so probably not. Too much earnings of younger generations is wasted on paying rent/mortgage.

Meanwhile boomers make the problem worse by constantly complaining whenever the value of their estate falls. Boomers were raised under the entitlement that their property would always increase in cost, so they always vote against any measure that would prevent this.

Once they die out, maybe. But the problem is they have passed this entitled mindset down to generation X as well. So basically it's never going to get fixed in our lifetimes.
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>>134822720
Congratulations on the lifestyle. I have the deepest respect for you. I wish you, your husband and your future soccerteam if children all the best.
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>>134822463
>a bunch of obvious things about life
>you're an anime watching internet shitposter chucklefuck faggot
true again
>men need to stop whining about it and adapt
what part of watch anime/play vidya/shitpost for the rest of our lives did you miss
if you want to be a modern woman have a blast, but leave us alone, because thats whats freedom of choice about (or maybe freedom of choice is only applied to you)
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>>134822838

Do you think more women would be open to something like this? I just want a traditional marriage where I'm the head of the marriage and responsible for my wife, and in exchange she has ~5 years to devote to herself before we spend all our time raising kids.

Being a man really used to mean something. You were responsible for providing, protecting and leading your wife and children. Now we're all just people worker drones.
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>>134817651
>I believed the 2012 mayan apocalypse
I want to see a future for white children, but I want them to be >90 IQ white children
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>>134814170
>Are we ever going to witness the rise of the single earner family again?

I support a wife and 5 children, but I'm white so you know. I feed my children
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>>134822890
$250/mo?
even that is below nigger standards of living and
you're probably living full retard country bumpkin
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>>134822720

Dear woman, god bless. I hope I can find a traditional wife like you.
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>>134822995
You do realize that's a guy, yes?
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>>134823420

Delet this
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But Subway and Jersey Mike's will go out of business if women only made sandwiches for their families.
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>>134823276
It's called cost of living moron. where we live would be 1000 a month in commiefornia but I'm not a faggot, so I live in a decent, small town. All you have to do is find a small, dying town, and snatch a cheap, beautiful home. I work outside the town, so people leaving doesn't affect me.
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>>134819400
checked, good luck anon
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>>134814170
thats what single mothers are you imbecile
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>>134819188
What degenerate culture do you belong to where the women can't cook?
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>>134823195

If it's obvious, why ask the question? Why bitch about the answer if you already know it?

I don't want to be a modern woman because I'm a guy. Recognizing that the world has moved on from marriage and that women don't want to marry highly demanding losers doesn't make me a liberal or a woman.
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>>134823220
Capitalism killed traditionalism. As soon as women realized they no longer needed to rely on men for resources, they said goodbye to being housewives. Sexbots will mean men no longer need women for sex, meaning that women will need to bring more to the table in order to secure a man, hopefully this ironically will result in women becoming traditionalist again. Who knows.
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>>134814170
I'm doing it. Aint easy.
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>>134823220
Yeah I definitely think it's possible, anon, but I think you'd probably want to start dropping hints about it early on in your courtship so you could get a sense if she would be open to it. There are definitely women who would be fine with it. I have a pretty liberal/feminist friend who's also very mild and sweet (just brainwashed) and she essentially lives this way because she's Canadian and doesn't have a work visa here. She said it's been surprisingly fulfilling for her. She does pottery and gardens and cooks really beautiful meals for her and her husband.

I agree about "meaningful" male identity. I think what both people in the marriage have to understand is that a traditional way of life comes with sacrifices on the part of the male and the female (different for each), but the reward is a healthy, happy family that's mutually enjoyed and is spiritually fulfilling.
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>>134823220
So much truth in one post
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>>134823633
Socialism, not capitalism killed traditionalism.
Single mothers can live almost exclusively off welfare if they have enough children. Having a husband would significantly decrease their welfare payout. The government has made an incentive structure designed to push women away from men. that is why so many niggers are born out of wedlock.
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>>134814170

No, Women are bombarded with counter advice from a young age. It's sad.
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>>134823630
im bitching solely because youre implying that i have do do something which i dont have to do and will never do
>adapt
lol keep being delusional if you think im goin to adapt and do anything other than be a useless waste of space
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>>134823633

I completely agree. 1914 was unironically the peak of western society.

At this point I truly just hope that artificial wombs, sexbots, VR and AI will radically destroy our current social order and replace it with something else.
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>>134823220
>Being a man really used to mean something
falling for the historical jew

it never meant a thing and still doesn't
all it takes is disillusionment to rid yourself of these propaganda memes

I tend to think that the only whiny faggots whining about having a family are the massively insecure and naive kids still out for the summer

there is no "marriage magic", no "parenting magic", no "employment magic" or "money magic", and sure as fuck no "work ethic magic"

it is stupid people with utterly unrealistic expectations that rule the world
do not expect them to help you
they are engaged in trying to destroy you
don't worry they are really stupid? no you should fear for your life because they are the biggest existential threat to the human species
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>>134823633

Sex robots are not going to be commercially available for a very, very, very long time. The best you're getting for a long while is similar to what we have now(basically, soon there will be interactive 3D VNs that can jam a flashlight onto your dick in time with VR sex, but you're still going to be painfully aware that you're not actually fucking a person...so advanced masturbation is the best you will see in your lifetime)
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>>134823933
If you are unwilling to adapt and improve, then you are a lost cause.
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>>134823220
who knows, but it should remain a choice still for women, because if you conservative cunts force me to take care of some bitch, im starting a civil war. i just want to remain single
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>>134815728
Underrated post.
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>>134823830

Thanks anon. I truly wish you and your husband the best. See you on the other side.
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>>134823933

Then don't. Be a loser, have no children, and die alone. I genuinely don't care. If you're happy being a beta male that jerks it to anime girls all day, I am 100% okay with that. Just don't complain that women are too shitty for you when you yourself are of the lowest garbage there is. Nobody cares what you think about the mate potential is for any given female because you are worthless from a procreation perspective.
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>>134824001
>I tend to think that the only whiny faggots whining about having a family are the massively insecure and naive kids still out for the summer

you're wrong, its the natsoc-fash larpers and shills / reactosphere readers that wandered in
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>>134823361
Yeah I want an army of jock sons that go to MIT, I dont think you can develop children to their fullest potential without having a stay at home parent to supplement education. I remember these korean transfer students at my high school. They were top of every class, I found out that they had to do 3 hours of education when they got home. People need to put more energy into the personal development of their families.
>>134823361
you need to redpill and lead to create one of your own. I used to think open borders was a good thing because angelina jolie said so, women really are dumb when it comes to politics.
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>>134824289
Thanks senpai, my best to you and good luck in your search!
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>>134816205
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eax4I-Z0o8c
Id fucking hammer her head in
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>>134814170
I'd just be happy finding a woman who's a virgin and is actually worth having a traditional relationship with. I'm an attractive guy and I get a lot of interest from women, but every time I start falling for a girl I find out she's been with other guys and I just find her disgusting. I'm 27, so the chances of sharing that with someone I can identify with are rapidly approaching zero. I figure I'll eventually just kill myself to extinguish the pain of eternal loneliness.

I'm a tall, attractive, and charming. Women have been throwing themselves at me for years and it's only ever been disappointing. I've had a world of pussy handed to me on a plate and I don't want it. It's a cruel, cruel joke.
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>>134824594
I agree with the education thing!
When i grew up we had to do extra homework while mother cocked the dinner. just the 1 hour extra each day really put me in the lead in my class... and for many year later on as well...
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>>134824001
>all it takes is disillusionment to rid yourself of these propaganda memes
Yea but a huge portion of the public doesn't even know they are brainwashed to begin with. You have to understand that this community we are apart of is a very very very small portion of society.

that being said you have an extremely small percentage of society that is brainwashed into rejecting family and children, Were still out numbered and will just dwindle away in the wind. Birth rates of the west are dropping like a sack of bricks and the family structure is almost completely broken down now
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>>134824101
trust me, if i were a lost cause it would be an improvement to what i am now
ive turned into a living meme

>>134824315
>Be a loser, have no children
i will continue to do so thank you
i dont see why do you think that a subjective classification made by conformists to a nonconformist (me) such as "loser" would have any effect to me other than contentedness and maybe mild surprise

>If you're happy being a beta male
cant be a beta if i've never really tried
its the schrödinger's cat at this point

>Just don't complain that women are too shitty for you
im not and i wouldnt do this becasue its not true, 95%+ of women are above my league and objectively better than me by all societal standards

>you yourself are of the lowest garbage there is
>Nobody cares what you think about the mate potential is for any given female because you are worthless from a procreation perspective
again with the obvious
i have never even tried to present anyones potential or anything because i legit dont give a shit

i just want people like you who try to """improve""" me or make me """"adapt""" to fuck the hell out of my anime vidya infested life
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>>134824054
A sex doll is good enough for me pussy nigger.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5oBUydqpS0
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>>134824956
>feeling sorry for yourself because you can't find a literally perfect virginal female in your age range despite having tons of women throwing themselves at you for years

No one is perfect, anon. With that attitude, even if you found a suitable virgin, you'd eventually find something else you didn't like about her to make you miserable.
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It's very easily done today actually. Basic living supplies in the US have never been cheaper. It just never works out because poorfags are so obsessed with wasting their money on frivolous shit like phones, "shopping," (((entertainment))), eating out, etc. I get by just fine and I make $8.75 an hour because I know how to not spend my money like a child.
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>>134814170
I did it for 10 years, told her she didn't have to work, needed to stay home and take care of the house and kids. But in the end she was bitching that was working too much and not paying attention to her and my meals sucked after a while and the house was a mess. She watched TV all the time and got fat. When I had enough. I bought her a townhouse a few blocks away and told her to GTFO and I'd pick the kids up on the weekends (or whenever the fuck I want).
She still doesn't work, but since my youngest is getting older, I'll be telling her to get a job and reducing the shit I pay for.
>Double edge sword
>Single earner in two households
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>>134826377
8.75 an hour is upper middle class where i live
more than a doctors salary
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>>134826901
Its poverty in the US

Wal-mart employees make 10.
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>>134814170
The simplest way to put it is, we need 50s culture and modern day technology.
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>>134819014
>especially with that kind of speech
Bitch just had to get the last word in didnt she?
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>>134827099
wtf
my very large family lives on 3-5k$ a month and were one of the wealthiest families there are where i live
ive never lacked anything and lived spoiled like a little princess

must be the prices
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>>134826377
You are correct. The single largest expense is rent. Once you have that under control, you can budget for every other expense with even the most moderate salary. The problem is people don't want to do that.
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>>134817821
Dale Carnegie - How to Win Friends and Influence People.

Learn the lessons in the book. Very good psychology and common sense with real life examples. Take it to heart and resolve your marriage.

Much as I want to call you retarded for believing the 2012 bullshit, I won't because at least you managed to breed unlike 95% of pol.
I wish you good luck in making your wife get out of her comfort zone. Remember, women are children with pussies rp-ing as adults. Convince your wife to be an adult and do her part in her family finally. Never EVER divorce if you have kids, unless you want untermenschen.
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>>134828075
Was meant for
>>134817924
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>>134814170
Its still a thing here, for now atleast.
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>>134829012

Trump will be changing that real soon sweetie :)
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>>134829359
What, trump will send liberals to Mexico?
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>>134829413
he will build a magic wall that will enchant your population with powerful capitalist magic
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>>134817483
so you're saying...
there's a chance
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>>134814170
Yes.
Because everyone will go home to plug in to their virtual family experience on VR
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>>134821845
Sounds like you've racked up a shit load of debt and have plans to rack up more. Otherwise yeah, that's great.
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>>134826100
I'm not looking for "a virgin", I'm looking for "the right girl", but a part of that is her being a virgin. It's just one non-negotiable aspect of her being, not the focus of my attraction to her.
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>>134831758
Mm no, my parents put me through undergrad and I put myself through grad school and paid off my remaining debt before I got pregnant with my first child. If I go for another degree I'll choose a university funded program or apply for grants/scholarships.
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Given the amount of women that got coned into a gender studies degree, I'd say probably. It's either that or unemployment.
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>>134814170
Yes because women working is ruining their lives. Because of delayed fertility, because of delayed relationships which causes less intimacy overall and more sex partners, because when they have children their lives will be a living hell until they go to school, etc.

Some women will always work and it's important to treat them the same as men, but many women will treat their career choice as an emergency backup and be stay at home mothers.

Also consider that our current degenerate society keeps a lot of people out of the gene pool because they can't or don't want to have kids, or because their kids have a higher risk of severe autism and downs syndrome.
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>>134817717
>tricked
They were tricked *not* to.
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>>134818414
6,000,000% agree
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>>134819511
Dune?
Maybe Mars as Arrakis
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>>134816130
kek
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Sure. The hunter gatherer was in a single earner household, right?
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>>134836563
are you talking about examples of neo-feudalism in literature? it's all over the place (look at classics like The Count of Monte Cristo), but Dune is an example I guess

traditional understanding of having retainers, servants, large families, nobles and such don't do accurate justice to the social forces behind it

modern thinking in many ways is directly contradictory to neo-feudalism.
>all men are created equal
vs.
>unequal rights and nobility

it's easy to write it off since it just doesn't fit.

Still, that's how it's going to be when it's all said and done
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>>134818383
Your one claim is bull. Wages have actually stagnated. Maybe not from where you are but they sure as hell have so idk wtf you're smoking.
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>>134814170
Not while (((banks))) are still a thing.
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>>134814170
I did it and I encourage everyone to do so, especially if your gf has a low wage job, the governments gibs might be more beneficial or, like in my case, your net household income won't drastically change (we make about 4000$ a year less, worth the sacrifice) and you'll have someone at the house full time to get shit done.

Fact: immigrants tend to be a net cost on society because they choose this lifestyle, where only one parent work and the other stay home pumping out children for baby checks. So when you choose to live the lifestyle where both you and your spouse work, you basically choose to pay for abdullah and tyrone's kids and because your too busy paying taxes for them you barely have any time left to make a family of your own. You'll have one, maybe two, but you'll be too overwhelmed to make anymore after that, it's not easy balancing work and family when both parent work
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>>134814170
Yes, the degeneracy is going to hit capacity and we'll be back to marrying our own cousins just to keep them away from undesirables and degeneracy. Dual income+no children is too comfy, these eat out every day and get diabetes and will die off. The problem is which is going to come first? The critical mass of degeneracy or the one world order to enslave everyone?
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>>134816205
What the hell happened to her?
Why 60 (in 1 school year... how many others?)
Why tell the world?

Anons, what's dead scary is a beauty like her could easily lie to a prospective husband, "anon, you are only my third lover..."
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>>134819230
Yep, sounds like she knows how to push your buttons. You can surprise her with logic, no more emotion. If you give her no payoff, she will double down with the button pushing so stay cool and work through it. Like handling a toddler!
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