Fascism is simply a broken ideology that relies on anti-rational

>>134768322
Its not too late for bernie to win!!

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>hurr durr

>>134768322

Man is a brutal animal and political stability can only be achieved through the force of the state, using violence when necessary.

What's irrational about that? I'm not a fascist by any means but I view it to be one of the most straightforward systems of government.

It's also not the 2000s, retard.

Feminist theory: menz r bad thanks for the roads and civilization tho

>>134768418
Bernie was a warning to the establishment democrats, a precursor to the leftist populism that will dictate the future of the party. They could either adapt or cling to their power. They chose the latter.
There will not be another Bernie Sanders, nor another 2016. But the leftist snowball has begun, unstoppable by the twigs put in its path to slow its unprecedented progress.

>>134768574
what feminist theory have you read that made you come to this conclusion?

>>134768685
3rd way feminism has no academical basis that isn't whiny mumbo jumbo

>>134769298
have you read any that supports your conclusion? any academic texts, research papers, books, or essays from scholars in the subject?

>>134768322
>feminist
>theory

>>134768322
Dumbo

>>134768322
How can there be centuaries of analysis when it's only an idea that's a few decades old.

And why do you even need a few decades to understand something so simple. Women's be all and end all is securing a man to provide for her and having children, that's how their brain chemistry works.

>>134768322
>Fascism is simply a broken ideology that relies on anti-rational reasoning in order to arrive to its conclusion.
Reason is not a reliable way to arrive at conclusions on controversial issues of national importance, because a conclusion arrived at by reasoning is only as valid as the givens that it is based on. When those givens are not agreed upon, reason becomes largely useless and may actually be counterproductive because it gives the appearance of fact to what is just a blind assertion.

Fascism doesn't concern itself with philosophical arguments from first positions the way liberalism does. Liberalism starts with these assertions they hold to be universal truths, like all people being equal and having inalienable rights, then it tries to build a society around these ideas without ever dealing with the possibility that the social ills we see all around us are rooted in the inaccuracy of those basic principles. All they want is to win the argument, and they believe that anything that follows from a successful argument must be a desirable outcome. Fascism, on the other hand, tells you to decide what you want the country to look like, and then just do it. Fascism is not about convincing people that you've won an argument, it's simply about bringing about the outcomes you want by any means necessary.

>>134770044
>that's how their brain chemistry works

source for this? Im curious as to how you arrived to the conclusion.

>>134770066
how do you suggest bringing about fascism, if not through populist electoral politics or a widely supported revolution?

>>134768322
Hi there anon.

Actually I would like to promote a debate here, in the interest of exploring each other's culture.

I'm quite an open minded fascist.

If there are any open minded Jews that wouldn't mind a discussion regarding what would have to happen for us to make friends and we can treat each other as equals?

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>>134770200
99.9% of societies, even isolated ones, naturally adopted this system. The others failed without doubt.
It's been the way things are for thousands of years, it's instinctual human behavior.
With a mother nurturing a child with a father's influence, the likelihood of the child later developing a mental illness is staggeringly low.
Keep an eye on consistent historical trends, and OP seems retarded in every aspect including that of the kikes.

>>134768322
I'd beg to differ with you sir, Unless you are simply projecting.

I think you'll find the centrists are the most reasonable, since they are the least forceful of all the ideologies and don't try to impose rules on others.

I think you'll find Trumps brand of centre right wing populism is actually a good step forward since the pendulum has swung too far to the left and things need to swing back.

Oh and by the way, since cultural identity is based on how others see you, it doesn't offend me if you want to call me a fascist.

>>134770066
A very good analysis, anon. Additionally, why even compare feminist theory to a specific brand of fascism confined to one country and culture? One is academic theory and the other is politics, I wonder... Oh right, because cherrypicking is a great way to present yourself in a better fashion. OP is a smelly bedwetter.

>>134770702
>asks for a source
>is presented with more baseless arguments
ok

>>134768322
and one of these ideologies actually has traction outside the west and it's not feminism

>>134770200
There are two ways to easily conclude this.

The first is merely by observing women. Before women get pregnant their entire drive is for stability, even if they do not do it by directly looking for a man they will try to find in it in say a carreer. Than when they do have children, anyone who has been around such women or been married to them, will tell you that's what they put their mental energy into. If they fail to have children by a certain age their impulses will make them express maternity to soemthing else for example cats or some petty social justice issue.

The other way is to proven by the feminists themself, but being complete idiots they never realized what they were actually saying. So the for a great deal of history women have been forced into maternity as their reason to exist. Well if you force something to do a thing for a couple thousand years they will evolve to be more focused around it.

My theory is that feminists are failures of women. They cannot fufill their maternial urges so they take their frustration out on the whole of their gender in their whiny critiques. What I am also saying is that feminists are the biggest haters of women of all. They are the equivalent of the failed-men that wine about Chads.

>>134768685
OP pic strawmanned, why can't we?

>feminism: complain until men give us stuff
>fascism: work hard so the state can give us stuff

One of these is sustainable.

>>134771002
Jesus Christ /Pol/ do you not know what a motherfucking source is?

>>134768322
everything feminism has done has done nothing but hurt women and society

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>>134768322
Oh look it's another leftypol shill thread

>>134771103
>work hard so the state can give us stuff
well, I feel like you'd be more interested in communism than fascism? A DoTP will do a better job fairly distributing goods to the working people. I recommend you read some Marx and Lenin.

>>134768322
Fascism put into practice
>Works with no issues
National Socialism put into practice
>Works with no issues
Communism put into practice
>implying that was real Communism
>implying it shouldn't be tried again
>implying you're not just a racist
>etc

The ship has sailed on Leftist populism you fucking oaf.

>>134771128
You sound like someone that never leaves their room. Go outside talk to women. There's your source.

>>134771253
>opposing opinion
>lol shill
"we're not a safe space though we hate those"

>>134768322
All the Isms of modernity are born from the same corrupted broth. Imbeciles believe that because Fascism was murdered early that it perhaps had a chance to be a real political salvation. No. It is exactly as broken as Liberalism, Socialism, and Communism. Restore the Monarchy or GTFO

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>>134768322

Why haven't you necked yourselves? Like seriously, you litteraly serve no positive and constructive purpose on western societies and your ideology got fucked sideways by Trump.

Don't prolong your torture, just off yourselves

>>134768322
>says increasing desperate man for the 20th time

>>134771293
>communism
>the state gives us all the same amount of stuff, pretend to work hard so we don't go to gulag

>>134771337
>fascism
>nazism
>no issues
lol, had an issue not systematically killing innocent people, and then being destroyed by the Soviets.

>implying the holocaust was real
>implying the Jews weren't behind it
>implying it shouldn't be tried and tried again
>etc.

>>134771368
>opposing opinion
>WE GOT DA RESEARCH BUT U DON GOTTA RESEARCH U DUMB WE SMART

my almonds are activating!!!!

>>134769398
lmao this retard actually believes there is merit in feminist "theory"

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>>134771368
>unironically saying "alt-right"

Do you know how I know you're a shill?

>>134768322
Nice straw man.
Very nice.

>>134771561
Most fascists I've seen don't want to exterminate people, just mass deport them.

>The bum OP constantly asked for sources from his opponents.
>Literally post 0 sources from his original claim and threw a bitchfit when his opponent made similar arguments.

>>134771368
Okay it's a safe space. Now fuck off back to leftypol faggot

>>134771128
>no source in op

>>134771609
>using a term adopted by the most publicized figures of the movement
>"no don't say that or you're a shill"
do you wanna know how I know you have no idea what you're talking about?

>>134771705
i just said my opinion, I never said it was a scientific fact.

What y'all were doing is saying that "its science that this and that..." and etc.

>>134771293
>equality of outcome
Economic equality is even worse than economic liberty. Capitalism is stupid, but communism is outright evil. Why would you want equality when it is clear that people aren't equal?

>>134771669
how do you do that without massive resistance and violence from those opposed to it? How do you prevent from things like Black Panthers from developing to stop it?

Fascism necessitates violence.

>>134771696
>doesn't even know what leftypol is
Did you forget the part about OP being pro-feminism?

>>134772010
this too desu
leftypol is just a bunch of LARPing nerds who suck at organizing IRL

>>134771942
You can violently deport people without systematically exterminating them.

>>134768322
feminist theory: men r bad

>>134770310
Fascism historically took hold in situations where it won a small foothold in electoral politics and then leveraged that position to forcefully take over the government through a combination of violent direct action against political opponents and spreading propaganda targeted at elements of the populace disillusioned with the current government.

When Hitler was appointed chancellor of Germany, he only had 33% electoral support. Once he was in power, he trampled all over the country's political institutions to turn it into a one-party state, relying on his party's paramilitary branch to intimidate his political enemies into silence until he consolidated power after the Reichstag fire.

>>134772135
>LARPing nerds who suck at organizing IRL
Look at that statement you fool. If they can't organize IRL, then they aren't LARPers. LARP means live action roleplay. You can't LARP over the Internet.

>>134768508
>people have committed atrocities in the past so that means I can as well!

No.

>>134772301
it's still going to lead to massive deaths and unrest in the countries they're sent back to
the latter part is important because the first world has been dependent on imperialism and third world exploitation for as long as it's been the superpower

>OP is so retarded he actually believes society will go FURTHER left, socio-politically speaking.

Wew lad, you're a riot.

>implying diversity, equality, sexual liberation etc. are sustainable

>>134772566
you can suck at something and still do it anon, read what I said

>>134772670
>western civilization has only come this far because of third world exploitation and immigration, but we can do it without them guis!!!

wew. Also look at the rising immigration rates since the 60s and the decrease in violent crime, in the US

>>134772839
>Conveniently ignores sexual liberation.
>Conveniently ignores "Bowling Alone" by Robert Putnam

The future is ripe for Far Right radicalism.

>>134772613
It doesn't matter to the fascist if everyone leaves peacefully or violently, they just don't want to live with these people. It isn't the same as wanting to exterminate them.

> dependent on imperialism

Boo hoo. Japan was nuked twice and is still occupied to this day, they bounced back to become one of the world's most successful economies. China was fucked by Britain in the Opium wars, their people deliberately addicted to opiates, and they bounced back. Britain itself was exploited by Roman imperialism and bounced back to become one of the foremost European powers. At a certain point you have to come to terms with the fact that certain people just can't into civilization.

>>134773463
let's be "empirical" here

how do you expect countries to be complicit with your imperialism when your government is nationalist to the core, explicitly endorsing the rise of their own people over others
imperialism today isn't compatible with fascism