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/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - KILL EM ALL LET THE MARKET

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>"The state is an institution run by gangs of murderers, plunderers, and thieves, surrounded by willing executioners, propagandists, sycophants, crooks, liars, clowns, charlatans, dupes, and useful idiots — an institution that dirties and taints everything it touches" - Hans Hermann-Hoppe

This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, Objectivism, Anti-Communism, Right-Wing Populism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian.

>Recommended Reading list
http://www.libertarianright.org/reading/
>Discord & Book Club: /Tucrr4X
>Vanilla /lrg/ pastebin- CREATE IF YOU DONT SEE ONE IN THE CATALOG
http://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8

REQUIRED READING:
>Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard)
https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state
>Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe)
http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf
>FURTHER READING:
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books

>Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads

THREAD THEME:
>Drop it like it's Hoppe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM
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>Open Borders Are an Assault on Private Property | Lew Rockwell
https://mises.org/library/open-borders-are-assault-private-property
>Open Borders: A Libertarian Reappraisal | Lew Rockwell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5wZjdEl9F8
>Nations by Consent | Murray Rothbard
https://mises.org/sites/default/files/11_1_1_0.pdf
>Natural Order, the State, and the Immigration Problem | Hans-Hermann Hoppe
https://mises.org/system/tdf/16_1_5.pdf?file=1&type=document
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>RACE! THAT MURRAY BOOK
https://archive.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/ir/Ch75.html
>RIGHT-WING POPULISM
https://archive.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/ir/Ch5.html
>BIG-GOVERNMENT LIBERTARIANS
https://archive.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/ir/Ch16.html
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This is a bump for life, property and private McNukes™
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I fucking love capitalism, anyone who doesn't is either inept or just a lazy nog. God bless.
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Bumping for child slaves
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Subjugation of communists is always in defense of property and non-aggression.
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"If you honestly believe the natural state of a free man is to mutilate their genitals, abuse drugs or otherwise self destruct, you're dead wrong."
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>>134673557

Please tell me more about Anarcho Fascism
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>>134676894
its loosely defined, some say it is an authoritarian state with the purpose of protecting Austro-Libertarian property rights. Basically AnCap ethics by force. NatCap.
Others say its the natural result of anarchism; propertarian hierarchies will evolve into a voluntary monarchism or fascism
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BASED White Wimmens! Better times, universal sufferage was a mistake!
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>>134676894
Anarcho Fascism is the late stage of AnCap or Libertarianism. You either end up with a tribalist system or a fascist one, where the goal of the fascist leader is simply to protect personal and property rights from systems such as communism or socialism. These systems inherently violate the NAP as they seek to take away property and personal rights.
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>>134677448

So does it involve Ethno Nationalism?
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>>134677979
it's certainly possible, right of association and all. theres nothing stopping ethno-covenants from formingr in AnCapistan.
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>I need a Pinochet!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o
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>>134673557
Liberals are retarded, but trying to totally eliminate government and taxes is impossible. And I say that as a libertarian.
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>>134680224
Why? Are you one of those incoherent minarchists that say "Government is not efficient in any way, everything it touches is worst off after" and "But government is the most efficient lawmakers and the only one that can do security!"? You are no better than the socialist, even if you call yourself a libertarian
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Bump.
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>>134682820
Korwin X Hoppe Rapvideo when?
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>>134681747
I'm not a statist, but you can't dismiss the question so easily. Rand put it like this:

>A recent variant of anarchistic theory, which is befuddling some of the younger advocates of freedom, is a weird absurdity called “competing governments.” Accepting the basic premise of the modern statists—who see no difference between the functions of government and the functions of industry, between force and production, and who advocate government ownership of business—the proponents of “competing governments” take the other side of the same coin and declare that since competition is so beneficial to business, it should also be applied to government. Instead of a single, monopolistic government, they declare, there should be a number of different governments in the same geographical area, competing for the allegiance of individual citizens, with every citizen free to “shop” and to patronize whatever government he chooses.

>Remember that forcible restraint of men is the only service a government has to offer. Ask yourself what a competition in forcible restraint would have to mean.

>One cannot call this theory a contradiction in terms, since it is obviously devoid of any understanding of the terms “competition” and “government.” Nor can one call it a floating abstraction, since it is devoid of any contact with or reference to reality and cannot be concretized at all, not even roughly or approximately. One illustration will be sufficient: suppose Mr. Smith, a customer of Government A, suspects that his next-door neighbor, Mr. Jones, a customer of Government B, has robbed him; a squad of Police A proceeds to Mr. Jones’ house and is met at the door by a squad of Police B, who declare that they do not accept the validity of Mr. Smith’s complaint and do not recognize the authority of Government A. What happens then? You take it from there.
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>>134683399
>... a society without an organized government would be at the mercy of the first criminal who came along and who would precipitate it into the chaos of gang warfare. But the possibility of human immorality is not the only objection to anarchy: even a society whose every member were fully rational and faultlessly moral, could not function in a state of anarchy; it is the need of objective laws and of an arbiter for honest disagreements among men that necessitates the establishment of a government.
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economics is an evolutionary sience. the real war is between the races
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>>134683444
>it is the need of objective laws and of an arbiter for honest disagreements among men
what is culture and the values it brings with it
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>>134673581
so it only takes one lefty/nigger to let in millions of niggers and ruin the country
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>>134683662
economics are human interactions, since the beginning of time and the race war is already going on, just because whites aren't fighting back when they fellow people get murdered and raped in the streets, odesn't mean there is no race war.
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so what stops me from using slaves
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>>134684180
we support slavery
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>>134684180
People who care about the people you enslaved, or their insurance company, but if you just take a niglet out of a shithole nobody would care I guess., as long as you don't use him to steal for you or something like that.
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>>134683776
Well, yes, the values of the society will be what are enshrined in law. The problem is that if there is no state, why should anyone recognize those particular laws? What if someone has a different interpretation of cultural values and acts in accordance with his own set of laws? Insofar as his code of law contradicts the one followed by others (call them society's laws), he would violate society's laws. Then one's choice would be to either enforce society's laws against that person's will - in which case you're back to the conception of a state as an ultimate legal authority. Or you could fail to enforce society's laws - in which case you might not have those laws at all, if anyone can simply break them without punishment.
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>>134683968
People living in The "Nation" don't set the immigration policy, the property owner does. Leftists will never own property. They'll be the suckers on the bottom as they always are.
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>>134684403
>we support slavery
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>>134684180
Get them to sign Voluntary McSlavery™ contracts on pain of starvation. Simple
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lol I love how the commie fucks on /leftypol/ and r/anarchism are raiding us today
>topkek
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>>134683356
in September when he has his PFS speech
wonder if the Turks will let this madman even into the country
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>>134684597
well for example people still believe in a loose form of the ten commandments and back in the days without strong government, small communities and villages far away from the next authority handled this stuff all by themselves.
and even if you would abolish all laws in a white country people wouldn't start killing each other or start looting, only degenerates and subhumans would do so and they would get killed in the process by normal people, because they know what is just and unjust without a piece of paper.
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>>134677979
Voluntary ethnostate.
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>>134685028
Doesn't hoppe live in istanbul, so I don't think korwin should be a problem.
I always think it's funny when the merkelgov is ranting about turks, how bad they tread free speech, while Hoppe can have his society there, so we should spam those speeches in every normie's head.
PS:still hoping they both get drunk and make a rapsong
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>>134685564
Hoppe also talked about this hypocrisy in one of his PFS introductions.
Being a race realist and all, I'd still rather live in the West than in Turkey, for now...
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>>134685184
>small communities and villages far away from the next authority handled this stuff all by themselves
Exactly, each small village was its own de facto state. I'm all for reducing the size of states, if they are necessary. But the problem for anarchism is whether any state is necessary.
Consider what would happen if you committed a crime within one of those villages. Some kind of jury would form, maybe the tribal elders, and they would pronounce your punishment. They would decide each case separately, based on a combination of traditions and customs. They would have no idea of the concept of a 'right' (that would have to wait for the Enlightenment). Their legal system would operate on the implicit premise that the tribe or village had absolute power over its citizens, as there would be no hard limits on the action the village could take. There would also be no concept of precedent, and crimes would not be clearly defined - i.e. there would be no objectivity. A primitive, unchanging society might function on such a system, but a modern, industrialized, advancing, capitalist society would not. If a man is to operate in a modern society (say he wants to go ahead with an innovation which has implications for others' property), he must know beforehand what is within his rights and what is forbidden. There can be no room for uncertainty, imprecision or the personal choice of the law-enforcers in this: the law must be absolutely clear-cut and objective. Following my logic in >>134684597, it must also be absolute. This implies a single ultimate arbiter of the objective, absolute law, i.e. a state (or, at least two components of a state: a constitution and a supreme court). It does not, however, imply a monopoly on the ENFORCEMENT of that law, only on the arbitration of conflicts in which parties have violated the law.

Also
>Ancap argues a state is necessary
>Fascist defends anarchism
Are we both playing devil's advocate? kek
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>>134673581
Isn't the idea that every land is private and by default no one can't enter any private property without prior permission flawed? For example if I owned parcel somewhere and someone would buy all parcels around my parcel wouldn't that restrict my access to parcel from outside?
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>>134686813
In theory, yes. But in theory you could do that in modern day America; there's no law to prevent it. It never happens, though, because it's a Tom and Jerry-tier scheme.
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>>134686359
>I'd still rather live in the West than in Turkey, for now...
Yes, but I think we have to get out in the next 10-15 years before all goes to shit and they won't let you out anymore.
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>>134687232
already planning
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>>134686773
He can get the opinion of other land owners, this is also the case today, (where we have laws on paper) when companies start something and years after people complain about the damge that was done to their property or their health and they go to court.
But I am not in general against a fixed set of rules for example when the owner of a private city declares a set of rules everyone who lives or visits there has to follow I have no problem with it, but it is not a necessary thing.
also I am >>134685564
lost my connection.
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>>134673557

[Pic Related] is the Shill Operation being done against the KB Threads/Comments.

It was started on 6/2 & then on 6/3 the London Bridge Attack happened. The Shills had foreknowledge about the Terror Attack due to them being part of the same ISIS Network (That also did the Manchester & Westminster Attacks), which is why they did/started the Shill Operation a day before in hopes of discrediting the KB Threads ahead of time.

Bilderberg (which was going on during that Timeframe), IC “fingerprints” & those in CNN familiar with Doxing were also involved. CNN eventually made a deal with ISIS to hire that ISIS Filmmaker if they Doxed that Trump GIF Sharer for them. The exact same tactic of “doxing a random person (who then deletes accounts after seeing/finding out about the dox) in hopes to use that person’s information to attack someone/something else” was done in both cases. (The Shills really went “all in” after a Red Herring, showing desperation & paranoia)

The Shills put “Deep Drive” CP into the “Frank Memes/Images/Pics” they tend to post. It’s called “Deep Drive” CP because it’s still in the computer(s) even if the images are deleted & special/advanced tech/hardware/security systems are required to spot/detect it. (This type of CP is predominately used for Blackmail & Compromising. CP Distributors have access to it)

“Deep Drive” CP is how they are going to bring down 4chan (Hiro & Moderators take note) by “Poisoning the Well” with images/memes that have it. Pedophile Operatives inside Governments/Agencies/Military’s will use it to Compromise everyone (“Good Guys” & “Bad Guys”, Pedo’s are Evil that will spare no one) unless they are stopped beforehand.

They will also try to start War(while also killing Trump’s admin as “revenge” for taking down the Pedo Networks) by say “Russia” put the CP on/in the computers. Pedo’s will use the confusion to hide, escape and/or claim “innocence”.
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Can we get some /lrg/ aesthetics in this thread?
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>tries finding Constitution of Liberty in Croatian
>this book was published with help of Open Society Foundation
What do guys?
Also it's in Serbian so that's huge bonerkill too.
Is this particular book worth it?
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>>134691756
for thumbnail plebs
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>>134691565
I personally don't trust the Cato institute for that reason.
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Bump
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Posted this in another thread. Wondering what /lrg/ thinks of this idea.
Rule of law, and law alone - lexocracy? Atriocracy? Ultra-minarchism?
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>>134694853
This sounds like the ace combat 3 electrosphere stuff, where big companies (GR+Neucom) took over the states and a peacekeeping organisation (UPEO) keeps them in check, I could live with that, better than we have today no doubt, but the problem like with every form of minarchism is who keeps itself in check.
and how you described it is funded with no taxation, it must be funded with private capital, in which case it would take the position as the kaiser had in the holy roman empire of german nation with which I am more than ok with.
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