>480000 tobacco deaths per year >88000 alcohol deaths per

go a dumb stoner somewhere else faggot

I don't care, it's a non issue.

People just got gaslighted on pot because muh cartels/negros/spics/lazy hippie faggot

Most folks here probably smoke semi regularly or have no issue with it unless youre a LELEL420BLAZEIT

>>134667431
why this shit s still being posted on /pol
this is a political broad

Weed is fun, I smoke a joint with my gf maybe four or five times a year. There's a huge problem with the culture though that's going to result in lots of young kids becoming burnouts.

>>134667614

>implying stoners are annoying

What's wrong with Based weed culture?

I think it should be legal
But the memes have to be stopped
>non addictive
>safe

It is addictive and it is never good to inhale smoke
Probably much less harmful if you eat it

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>>134667567
oh look, an inbred retard who is too stupid to refute facts. stay mad and uneducated, impotent bitch.

>>134667431
>buys ridiculously expensive glass
>holds at angle so only one perc fires
Stupid. But yes I agree anon weed should obvious be legal

>>134667772
nigga just vape that christiania shit like I do

>>134667431
Cannabis makes you boring and lazy.

Legalising it would end the war on drugs but also end every jewish corporation.

>>134667948
And how is that not a good thing?

>>134667567
ease your mind and maybe you'll be able to form a coherent sentence anon

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>>134667431
>>134667855
i wish i could PROERD you, massive faggot

>>134668001
>>134667855

>being this triggered easily

i thought weed was suppose to make you relaaaaax man. lmao stupid ass stoners

I don't care if you light up a joint every now and then, its irrelevant. But when you have giant bongs and over do it, then it irritates me.

>non issue
>also faggot OP thinks smoking isn't bad for you if its not tobacco
Kek kys op

>>134667855
t. Drug addict

>>134667431
>Dies in a car crash because reaction timing is slow

>>134668281
If you drive while high you're retarded

>>134668089
I think of it as night time coffee. How frequently do people talk about how they love coffee? Same kind of reservation should apply to pot. Just appreciate the God given gift of getting high.

>>134667431
All drugs should be legal, making a case for just cannabis just undermines your argument and makes you look like a worthless stoner.

Drug trafficking funds organised crime and terrorism, you could completely eliminate a large percentage of that just by moving the trading of drugs into the white market.

>>134668343
Preach, nigga

>>134667431
>non addictive.

keep lying faggot

>>134668343

except coffee doesn't make you lazy you dumb fuck

Tobacco was determined non-carcinogenic by the CDC in 1952. Saged.

>>134668477
weed doesn't make you lazy if you're not a retard with no self awareness

>>134667772
It's not physically addictive.

>>134667431
makes you lazy and beta as fuck

WN stoner here
Been stoned pretty much every time I drove for... twelve years now. I had one car accident in my life, and it was after not smoking for a few weeks, sober AF. I've always been employed and paid taxes. Take good care of my kids. No criminal record. Not a lefty. What exactly makes me more degenerate than a sloppy fucking drunk?

>>134668787
Pretty sure everyone regards alcoholics as at the very least as degenerate as 420 stoner dude weed lmaos

>>134667769
DUDE

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>>134667855
oh look how the herbal jew screams and cries out in pain when he is named.

>>134668405
You're a retard for not knowing the history of opium addiction in the US and China. You're also a retard for not knowing the recent history of crystal meth and crack cocaine.

Pull your head out of your ass and you'll see that not all things are the same.

Know who else promote legalization of weed?

Reddit. Are you guys a redditor too?

>>134667431
Looks Jewish

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Everyone person ever, that has ever smoked Cannabis, has become lazy, less intelligent, and dull. Don't smoke cannabis, if you do, it'll only enhance negative features you possess.

>>134669019
You know who is against the legalization of weed?
Jews.
Are you a Jew too?

I've been smoking weed on a daily basis for almost 10 years.
I used to be the hippie faggot who thought, since I'm kinda smart weed will never make me lazy or anything, then I started to notice (like a year ago) how my anxiety, paranoia and mood were fucked, ever since I only smoke at night after work.

>>134667431
Cannabis is addictive
There are more chemicals associated with inhaling cannabis smoke than tobacco
Cannabis Psychosis is real
And it makes people stupid and robs them of motivation

Nigger culture pushes weed now, and rec markets produce weight not quality; they are selling you pesticide ridden filth at rec shops, grow your own.

>>134667431
>didn't clear it
>didn't hold for exactly 6 seconds

0/10 shit tier hit, typical of women though

>>134667431
Glad I stopped this entirely. It's a (life) time waste

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>>134667431

>>134669249
So what do you use to dull the pain of the constant immigrant cocks violating your asshole?

>>134667431
DUDE WEED LMAO

>>134667431
>Cannabis not legal
>Shows same signs of body damage as smoking tobacco post mortem
>0 cannabis deaths
>Cannabis regularly smoked with tobacco blend

Your logic doesn't make sense there bud

Am I the only one who finds weed threads comfy?

weed stays in your system for months. enjoy getting fired when you get random drug tested a few weeks later

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>>134668082
>>134668089
>>134668222
>>134668930
>not 8 inches of combine penile length between them
>not 80 points of IQ between them
>not a single argument between them

get a load of this fine line up of stupid, clueless, gas huffing retards.

>>134667431
>cannabis is safe,
No it isn't, it turns white people into niggers.

>>134669313
>the memes
I watch american cuckold porn with your mother and her bull

>>134667948
>end the war on drugs
Buddy, there are more illegal drugs than just weed

>>134667431
>zero cannabis deaths per year
No, cannabis users stay alive and functional enough to continue draining resources from those around them.

>>134667772
Anything can be mentally addicting. Self control is the issue.

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>>134669227
I've never understood some of the people on /pol/. You all bitch and moan about blacks, and living in NY, I actually know how shitty blacks are, yet cannabis isn't a big, the very drug they all consume on mass, and push to everyone else. Cannabis numbs your brain, it makes you inferior, why would you make yourself inferior purposely, unless you're too weak to deal with life sober. If that's the case, you may as well be black. Go be a blight on our society.

>>134669429
How?
Smoking a bowl at night and then just sitting on the computer is hardly acting like a nigger at all.

>>134667431
Meh. Call me when you're fighting to make speed legal.

>>134667948
Being from the UK you should know better than suggesting there's a war on drugs. Cannabis while being a class B drug isn't policed like the law would suggest.

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>>134667431
I don't think it should be a schedule 1 drug or even illegal, but it's still degenerate. Nice strawman you got there brah.

ITT emotional responses without factual arguments. Why are anti-drug people so defensive and childish?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81lLryhdLFU

>>134668477
Neither does weed, necessarily. Try hiking on a few puffs if you want to test my claims - you won't feel like being lazy. I think environment and short term planning has a lot to do with it, plus the folks you tend to hang around. Sure, its license to many to feast and eat in stupor, but that isn't everyone. And no, you don't have to like pot or pot culture to realize this. Have a good one.

Studies have shown it makes you drop a few IQ points. Rationalize and deny it all you want.

>>134667431
>Colorado legalizes marijuana
>it's a fucking disaster
welp

That's because it's illegal. By keeping it illegal we are preventing marijuana related deaths.

>>134668584
Yeah it does it makes you lazier than you would be u daft cunt

>>134669413
Depending on where you live and what your job is, loads of places don't drug test anymore. And if they do, it's usually for meth and opioids.

>>134669693
>Sweden
>Calls any place a disaster

Hard neck on ya m8

>>134667431
Just study instead of cherrypicking (((facts))) from blogs owned by guys with broken lives.

>>134668787
Fucking this. I'm high almost every time I drive and the only time I've ever been in accidents is while sober. Marijuana does not effect motor skills significantly unless you're faded out of your gourd.
I'm a much more patient and contentious driver while stoned. Stoned drivers will always let you pass/merge, they make friendlier roads.

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>>134669673
Well, I enjoy responding with some emotional undertones, although everything I said has been researched and proven. On a side note, even without scientific research, my experience, with pot smokers, is always negative. Shouldn't that be enough to warrant a negative response to the drug? The reality is, you're doping yourself up, and hampering your own ability to intellectually respond to situations, instead numbing yourself and slowing all your reactions, including those mental in nature. You're voluntarily dumbing yourself down, and I apologize for not jerking off your ego while you do it.

Just got back into weed after 1 year without, bought an 8th like 2 weeks ago and still barely smoked half of it. I just don't have the time to smoke anymore now that I have a "real" job. Yesterday I tried waking and baking since it was a saturday and I ended up sitting in front of my computer for hours without being able to leave and go do my shit. I think I grew out of the drug, but it still should be legalized.

>>134667431
DUDE WEED LMAO

>>134667431
2 of my friends have OD'd on the cannabis vape pens. Yes cannabis toxicity is real. To be clear, my other friends who do huge amounts of regular dabs have never OD'd, only the vape pens caused this. I guess we'll find out more as it happens.

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>>134669843
>>134668787

>>134669693
>>it's a fucking disaster
How? They've made billions of dollars.
>>134669692
Post the study.

>>134667431
Weed is not degenerate unless you are a fat stoner, smoking everyday.

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>>134667614
>Most folks here probably smoke semi regularly

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>>134667431
>muh weed is degeneracy
>muh weed cures cancer bro
Okay, let's put these two memes aside for a second for a question. Isn't the reason that tobacco is so harmful to people because you're inhaling the hot smoke of a burning object? That hot smoke then destroys the aviola in your lungs. How is marijuana not also as harmful when it is also smoked? Are we going to end up seeing stoners with those weird hole in their necks and robot voices?

>>134669693
The only disaster is their supply crisis.

They declared a national emergency a few weeks ago for running out of weed LOL.

>>134670014
All drugs are degenerate desu

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>non-addictive
But habit-forming.

>safe
Doesn't it lower your IQ?

>>134669843

I disagree. I'm all for weed but I've had a few close calls while driving stoned. It feels like everyone is trying to run you off the road and 4 way intersections become scary as fuck. Every car behind you feels like a cop and if I drive the speed limit some asswipe will tailgate me. Its best to keep it at home.

>>134669843
Maybe that's because your body is so used to being stoned, that it goes through withdrawals when you're sober. Being high is the new sober & being sober is the new high. That's not helping your case, Anon.

Btw, I used to smoke every day when I was in high school, and I ran over a mailbox and hit a lady from behind while I was high. I never did those things sober. I was so paranoid & things moved in such slow motion, my reaction time was terrible. So don't sit here and lie to everybody about "DUDE I'M SO MUCH OF A BETTER DRIVER". Bullshit. Unless you're a full blown addict, which means you have to be consuming incredibly large amounts of weed to develop a fucking tolerance that high.

>>134669928
>my experience, with pot smokers,
Don't hang around them? You think it should be illegal because you personally keep bad company? That's pretty tyrannical. Adults should be able to decide what to put in their own bodies (to an extent) and weed is more harmless than what's currently legal.

Feel free to post any of that "research".

>>134670190
If you do it every day while your brain is still developing you might lose a couple of IQ points.

>>134670092
because what the smoke is made of also matters

>>134667431
DUDE

>>134670092
> Isn't the reason that tobacco is so harmful to people because you're inhaling the hot smoke of a burning object?
Tobacco has more Tar than weed. Also Cigarette's are full of Chemicals and toxins that cause cancer. Weed and Fresh tobacco are usually the stuff that doesn't give you cancer

>>134670277
What about regular use as an adult?

>ZERO cannabis deaths per year
this is not true. lots of people kill themselves or others while high, e.g. traffic accidents

>>134667431

>advocates Cannabis as safe
>depicts smoking which dumps a lot of tar into your lungs

If you want to advocate Cannabis, push vaporizing rather than smoking.

>>134670207
Sounds like you have an anxiety problem

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>>134670318
>fresh tobacco

>>134670207
Yeah you sound like a paranoid faggot. Keep off the road even when you're not high

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>>134670225
My argument wasn't completely to illegalize it, it was to contain it. No driving while under the influence, no smoking it in a public area. I don't deal with those smokers anymore, I haven't since I was subjected to it in HS, with the exception of a few of my family members. And this is the way I enjoy it. Alcohol I feel the same way, it dumbs you down, and creates a dangerous environment for others. So, do it in private, ensure you're sober once you're done, then you can come back out into the public, so when I deal with you, I'm not dealing with a drug fiend.

>>134667879
Vaping is not a safe alternative if you want to avoid the volatile organics.

The actual discoloration of smoke isn't what's harmful in smoke. When you heat organic compounds and break the chemical chains you create a soup of compounds, of which a fair number of those are reasonably reactive with tissue.

Saying tobacco kills people but cannabis doesn't is the exact argument taken by the tobacco industry claiming that you haven't conclusively proven tobacco causes cancer but with pot. A major problem with the study of harmful effects of cannabis is that almost all pot smokers also smoke tobacco or inhale second hand tobacco smoke. Making large pure groups (only smoke pot) of people to study hard to find.

>>134670324
>this is not true. lots of people kill themselves or others while high, e.g. traffic accidents
Post as source please.

>>134667699

because it's one of the most divisive political issues in the US right now. Marijuana has literally created a federalism crisis because every election cycle more states legalize it but the federal government still considers it as illegal as heroin.

this is why I support the death penalty for drug users
we can fix these biased stats, OP, don't worry

>>134670321
When above 25 you should be golden.

>>134667431
Cannabis is safe if you know the risks. Many people don't know the risks of using cannabis, especially at a young age, and/or if you have psychological problems.
Also, cannabis might not be physically addictive, but it's definitely mentally addictive. Which also increases the danger of using cannabis if you have mental problems.
All in all cannabis is still a lot safer than all other drugs, including alcohol. But don't pretend it's without any dangers.

T. Daily user.

>>134669421
damn, you rekt those guys.

>>134670415
Don't know anything about TobacCo but I assume fresh natural tobacco rolled into a cigarette is miles better than buying a pack

>>134670465
>A major problem with the study of harmful effects of cannabis is that almost all pot smokers also smoke tobacco
t. my ass

>>134670441
>Yeah you sound like a paranoid faggot
This is literally one of the THC traits, it develops your psychosis if you are susceptible

>>134670211
You have a point there, my tolerance is pretty high. I disagree with the "sober being the new high" statement though. Sober is definitely still sober and high is definitely still high, at least for me.

I voted against legalization in NY entirely to spite annoying faggots like OP

I think I'll go open a beer which I purchased legally at the store

>>134670451
You can't smoke weed in public and Being stoned is treated the same as Buzz/Drunk driving. Are you retarded?

>>134670441
>>134670364

Yeah that's another shitty thing about weed, the smallest thing can trigger paranoia. Take a couple of bong hits to the face then get behind the wheel in 5pm traffic in fucking florida, tell me you don't feel a little paranoid.

>>134670562

You're a dolt. Dope is fucking harmless.

>>134667431
OP is a degenerate faggot.

Smoked cannabis are just as dangerous if not worse than ciggarets.

>>134670128

that was Nevada, because their legalisation legislation put the liquor distribution companies in charge of distributing cannabis from grower to dispensary and they weren't doing their jobs.

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>>134670710
Good. And I treat cannabis the same way I treat alcohol, if you partake in it daily, you're an addict, and I don't trust you. Now, if you don't do it around me, I'll forgive the fact that you're addicted to the substance, so long as I'm not subject to it. So yeah, dumb yourself down all you want, just don't be a nuisance to me while you do it.

>>134670640
That is when you have to grow as a person and learn to separate your feelings from your logic. It's a learning experience if you take advantage of it. Any time I experience anxiety while high I remind myself that the drug may be causing it and force myself to take a step back and think about it from a rational point of view. It's actually pretty satisfying to take control of your own mind in a way.

>>134670562
This. Recently got some weed which gives me insane headache, even just by smelling it. IDK if it is laced since that is an extremely uncommon practice here, however something is seriously wrong with this bud compared to other I get.

It's summer all the kids that just went through DARE are on here.

> keep it illegal
> keep cops busy with this bullshit instead of fighting real crime
> keep tens of thousands in jail for possession, distribution and production of a fucking plant
> make organized criminals rich
> spend millions of dollars for nothing.

>>134667431
>480000 tobacco deaths per year
non kike source on this anon

>>134670995
Damn nigga. Fik du det fra staden?

>>134670979
>weed
>logic
>pick one
Weed is the natural enemy of any logical thinking

>>134671284
>natural enemy of logical thinking
Pretty sure that's women

>>134671284
t. Mohamad Abdul
Do you drink alcohol?

>>134667431
weed is not safe but actually is a leading cause in mental illness with heavy smokers.

>kill yourself weed fag
>its science bitch
>saged

I trained for a marathon while smoking pit everyday, I even smoked before the race.

If you seriously believe weed makes you lazy you have fallen for the Jewish pharmaceutical comlany propaganda and you need to kill yourself

>Stoner: dude smoking weed cures cancer lmao.
>me: Remind me what Bob Marley died from again?
>stoner: DUDE WEED LMAO

Every time.

>>134667431
The argument that it doesn't cause deaths is supremely retarded.

I've only tried it twice in over 30 years, I don't have anything against it, i'm a libertarian who thinks anyone should be able to put anything into their bodies, so I'm PRO legalization.

But these arguments are so fucking stupid and vapid it beggars belief.

"Heeey man, weed has never brought the entire universe and all known existence to an end before, therefore it's perfectly safe!"

The only people who like and agree with pot heads are other pot heads, wanting something legal to do in moderation is not the same as spending your entire life baked out of your mind, you fucking degenerates.

Turns people into unproductive pieces of shit. They're more likely to also get on welfare and bitch about muh ebil rich guys and want more free stuff. Keep it illegal in states that don't want it.

>>134671365
Calm down, have another drink.

>>134667431
Weed makes you a lazy wasteling. If you wanna live in your utopian La La Land, go ahead, but don't expect to be respected.

>>134667769
white stoners are annoying.

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>>134667431
I smoked two joints today, still a bit high

Being sober 24/7 is boring lads

My politics agree with pic related about 95%, except on drugs, because he basically wants to lock me up for smoking a joint

>>134671444
You aren't a libertarian.

>>134671353
Yes I do occasionally, you degenerate stoner fuck

>>134669421

>y-you're not making an argument
>uses ad hominems
>doesn't make an argument himself

what a dumbass. """stoner logic""" ladies and gents

>>134667610
This. Burn whatever leafs you want, we've got bigger fish to fry.

>>134671691
So why shouldn't adults be able to consume marijuana?

>>134671765
Because /pol/ says it's degenerate of course.

>>134671681
>You aren't a libertarian
How so?

I support the removal of laws that ban substances for personal use. I support minimal state and maximum personal freedom.

If people want to be able to smoke weed then they should absolutely be allowed. But the idea that it's in no way harmful is laughable, and the idea that we'd respect anyone who abuses it is also laughable.

>>134667431
>480000 tobacco users with jobs
>88000 alcohol users with jobs
>ZERO cannabis users with jobs
really makes you think

>>134667431
Yes. People should have the right to cannabis legally. However I would reccomend not partaking in a consistent habit of smoking weed because it will fuck your lungs up in the long run, damage your short term memory, kills your motivation and slows your reaction time. I'm struggling with weed cravings because I've been smoking everyday.

>>134671765
Stupid people need to be protected from the government from their own stupidity. They will be lazy, unproductive fucks for society and I will pay for them with my taxes. Not even talking about the health fund

>>134671920
And you're happy about paying for your wife and children to be BLACKED by refugees who do not work?

>>134671415
you fucking unbelievable retard. Just add to the story that you finished last

>>134667431
I've been smoking the green Jew for 2 years now.
I fell for the meme that it wasn't addictive or degenerative and that it would help with ptsd. I actually thought it would be a safer alternative to alcohol for getting fucked up.

I cant remember simple things and can't stop smoking it. Don't fall for the meme guys.

>>134671138
Yep, tror det fordi de ikke har renset det ordenligt igennem i den sidste del af væksten. Får stadigvæk en syg hovedpine af det, tror jeg må ind igen og få noget nyt. Er bare træt af at stotte de kriminelle derinden.

Just around 1950s tobacco was considered harmless and even helpful in some cases, and now governments are trying super hard to get people out of the habit. It is interesting how similar the situation with weed is. The potheads wouldn't shut up about how harmless and even healthy it is, while ignoring all the red flags (addictive, makes you dumb, etc).

>>134671675
>being sober 24/7 is boring
Boring people get bored
SORT YOURSELF OUT BRO

A lot of nerdy type guys that never had friends to smoke with and can't get any weed like to hate on it, like the guys ITT. So they pretend to hate it. Weed is degenerate yet they post on websites like this, fap to traps, drink alcohol, drink soda eat fast food etc. But smoking a herb and getting a buzz is degenerate. Okay.

>>134672006
Yeah. Dispensaries when?

>>134667431
At least OP's pasta tits bait webm held in the hit for more than .5 seconds this time

>>134671990
If you drank as much as you smoked you would be fucked up too.

>>134671920
>Stupid people need to be protected from the government from their own stupidity
Oh yes daddy government please protect me! Are you in favor of strict regulations on every sector as well? Universal health care? Government banning junk food, hey, people will get fat if the government isn't telling them what to eat? Forced vaccines because the government knows best? Universal basic income?

Kill yourself, leftist commie.

>>134670995
Did you remove all stems before you smoked it? Not taking out the stems is a common beginners mistake. The stems can often cause headaches.
Also did you drink enough? My advice is to drink just water. It helps against headaches.
If that doesn't help your weed might be laced. Check it for weird smells and see if it looks weird.

nobody cares if you smoke weed just shut the fuck up about it

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>>134670581
>>134671693
>still too stupid to make any arguments
>continue to bitch and whine in a desperate bid for your superior's attention

>>134671982
Nice ad hominem "argumentation" there, I didn't expected more from a stoner.

>>134671990
>i can't control my actions and my life so the government should control yours

This board is sounding more and more socialist.

>>134670927

what if you vaporize it maybe 3x a week?

Weed should completely be legal medicinally, they actually have health benefits (reducing seizures, etc). I think recreational use should be legal too, but it needs to be banned in public use.

>>134672292
You think your argumentation is any better?

>>134667431
Because the many uses for the entire cannabis plant would threaten many big businesses and we can't have that now can we?

So what? Everyone still views you stoners as losers.

>>134671441

it doesn't cure cancer. But it can be an accessory to other treatments mostly for alleviating pain and nausea caused by chemo.

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>>134672201
>leftist commie
Maybe you should check what that means next time

>>134672389
>gets called out for ad hominem arguments
>switches to tu qouque arguments

I am getting dumber even when just talking to you stoners

>>134667431
all you anti-pot people should look into how "marijuana" got its name and why it was made illegal. it was entirely based on propaganda, something we all should be more wary of

>>134672361
>but it needs to be banned in public use.
So like alcohol? I see no problem with this either. >>134672292
How about trying to respond to my post >>134672201

Your argument is that people are stupid so need government protection, right? That literally the basis of forms of government with expanded government reach, ie, socialism and communism. How are you OK with that? How do you not value the principles of liberty and individual freedoms?

>>134672201
You should know by now that Germans hate freedom.

>>134672559
So what? Everyone views alcoholics as losers but it's still legal.

>>134672608
>Maybe you should check what that means next time
You: Stupid people need to be protected from the government

So you're in favor of increased government regulations and intrusion in its citizens lives. It's tyrannical socialism. Tell me why that's wrong?

Or just keep deflecting and posting maymay pictures

While all that is true; people who frequently smoke and especially when they're high are fucking stupid and annoying therefore it should be illegal and severely punishable.

>>134671284
>>134671920
Except I smoke like 8 times a day, mostly in the evening after work and gym and I'm a productive scientist. "muh weed muh degeneracy" fags BTFO

>>134667431

It's still addicting and makes people stupid as fuck.

>>134672961
It's habituating, but not physically addictive.

This argument can be made about many things. What if some government hack one days says "that website 4chan is addicting and makes people stupid" then decides to block access to it. Would you be in favor of that too? Or do you think you're an adult and can make decisions for yourself?

>>134672211
The odd thing is I vape it, and don't include the stems. Right now I'm doing a water cure and the liquid is turning light green pretty fast. Other than that it smelled pretty dank.

>>134672077
Ja præcis, har lyst til at investere i noget groudstyr nu.

You can go cold turkey off weed after daily smoking for years and only experience minor discomfort. If an alcoholic or benzo addict goes cold turkey, they literally die from seizures.

>>134673141
You sound like a liberal faggot.

Die in a nigger cock.

>>134673369
Calm down, have another drink.

>>134672851
As to be expected, your logic lacks.

Weed is not legal right now, this is the status quo. I didn't imply to increase government regulations, but drug laws should not be lifted. You could assume I was an tradionalist at best.

So your failure to interpret the semantics of my statements makes me a "tyrannical socialist".

You are a perfect example and proof for my claim weed excludes logical thinking.

>>134673369
you sound intelligent

>>134667431
You're right desu. We should outlaw tobacco and alcohol too.

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>>134671693
Non arguments don't deserve arguments.
You fuckwitt!
This is not an argument, just so you know.

>>134673649
It took you 10 minutes to scrape that together? Okay, fine, you want to keep the status quo. The argument I have is that weed is much less harmful than vices that are already legal (booze, cigs) and taxing and regulating it will generate loads of revenue while also putting illegal drug traffickers out of business, traffickers who engage in violent crime as a result of prohibition. Decriminalizing weed will also free up cops to pursue real crimes and take a large number of people out of prison for minor drug offenses, saving the tax payer money and putting those people back into society and the workforce.

I personally am more convinced by all of that than "well it's not legal now so don't change it because I don't like it". Do you see where I'm coming from?

>>134667431
>the little dictators of /pol/

thats a funny way to describe pharma shills

>>134673730
Thank you gay flag guy

>>134667431
>not addictive
Maybe not physically like other drugs, but mentally it is.

>>134667614
>420BLAZEIT

why wouldn't you want to celebrate Hitler's birthday with fire?

in honor of the crematoriums of course

blaze it 420 seig heil !

>>134673649
>but drug laws should not be lifted.

any law that suggests human beings are property are not legally binding

>>134671625
It's like they're either really annoying hippies or they try their hardest to act like niggers.

>>134674208
It is physically addictive.
I have no idea how this is even questioned. It is proof that if enough people just keep saying something over and over it becomes accepted as truth.
think about the media and the russia trump thing too
really makes you think

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eb4wfEAFSQ

do dopamine from exercise instead

>>134674419
>It is physically addictive.

nowhere near as bad as tobacco, opiates or sugar though, easier to kick than coffee or pussy for sure

>>134673249

there's some strains that just have different effects for different people. I used some Ghost Train Haze which has like great reviews and all that highly rated for being potent but for me it produced 0 Euphoria. I got the physical body high, but didn't even crack a smile. It also smelled absolutely awful, a touch like diesel fuel like Sour D. I can't do Sour D based strains (last I tried was Sour Tangie, I didn't realize the "Sour" part was not a citrusy flavor/smell but Sour Diesel is one of the parents.. it tastes like licking the inside of an engine.. I don't understand how people like Sour Diesel so much.).. that taste and smell is fucking awful. Only times I've ever THROWN AWAY weed was Ghost Train Haze, Sour Diesel, and Sour Tangie.

>>134674071
>while also putting illegal drug traffickers out of business, traffickers who engage in violent crime as a result of prohibition

no it won't put them out business, marijuana isn't usually the only thing they handle. More of their money comes from heroin, cocaine, and other drugs as well as illegal firearms trafficking and sex trafficking. Legalizing weed wouldn't change this, and anyway you'd still have people selling weed illegally to get around the high taxes even once it's legal.

>>134674419
It's only physically addictive in the sense that if you are a heavy user and abruptly stop, your body has to adjust to not having it in your system.

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>>134674208

I certainly isn't for me. It's legal for me to own it, grow it and sell it to certain people, and I haven't smoked in over a year.

Nothing wrong with weed. Bootlickers fell for the cuckservative propaganda. It should be legal.

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>>134668082
PROERD is the best

>>134674419
mate i smoke daily and my connect ghosted, and it's been like 5 days.
I've had no side effects of any addiction cravings etc

>>134674545
True, but it'll at least cut into their profits. Reducing their ability to engage in crime.

>>134667431
The CIA literally makes money off of drugs. Legalizing it would cut their profits and distribute to the state and other tax funded things.

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>>134674419

There is no chemical in cannabis that creates a dependency.

>>134670585
That's called a cigar you fucking imbecile.

>>134674127
You're a fag but I kek'd.

>>134674419
Smoke weed every day for 1 month straight and stop cold turkey for 1 week.

You will have 0 withdrawal symptoms friend, it's all in de head

>>134674699
There are still minor withdrawal symptoms that occur with habitual use. If I remember correctly vivid dreams and lethargy are a couple. Nothing live threatening like DTs with alcohol, or the numerous withdrawal symptoms from heroin.

>>134673249
Lyder nice. Bare pas på du ikke lige bliver taget med en kæmpe host.

>>134674529
Sour Diesel and it's children are fucking awful.

Lavender based buds or Ocean Grown strains are where it's at.

>>134670711
i used to get this, but i switched strains and smoked on and off for a year, my brain just became used to the altered state and stopped freaking out over silly things, its just getting your brain adjusted and used to being high

>>134675237
Well they didn't happen to me.
I get lethargic from eating

>>134674529
Could be, I thought SD was supposed to be the best. I'm reading that it might be due to non-flushing nutrients or pesticides.

>>134675113
Is that why you still smoke weed?

And "I could stop if I wanted to, but I don't want to" is not an excuse. The part of your body telling you that you don't want to is the addiction talking.

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>mfw people are perfectly fine with drinking, smoking and jerking to hardcore tranny porn but the second you bring up weed they look at you like you've just ate your own shit in front of them

>>134674879
That's false actually, most cigars aren't rolled in a tobacco leaf.

>>134670995
ive had this weed a few times, we call it ''chav'' weed over here because it smells like its going to kick your brain in and rape your mum, proper strong stuff, not in a good way either

its like the pitbull of weed strains

>>134672943
>t. islamic studies
>t. women studies

>>134675358
There is no part of your body telling you to unless you're including your consciousness as a body part?

I smoke weed because it's a cheap vacation.

Why not simply make all drugs legal? If you fuck up your own shit it's your own fault.

>>134670995
i am quite a avid fitness goer

i had a try of some weed at a friend
got my heart up to 140bpm at rest

was fucking awesome,

>>134675358
>"I could stop if I wanted to, but I don't want to" is not an excuse. The part of your body telling you that you don't want to is the addiction talking.

This. No bod overcomes an addiction simply because they don't want to use anymore. The whole point is that the addict always WANTS to use.

>>134675113
Wrong it's just like with tobacco, you crave it. I smoked weed every day for about a year and a half then quit cold turkey. You crave that shit for at the very least two months, after that it is less noticeable. It is the same as tobacco as far as addiction goes IMO. I smoke tobacco for years too and it was harder to quit weed than tobacco. Also those saying that smoking weed isn't harmful are fucking retards. Smoking anything leads to lung cancer and brain cancers. Not to mention mouth cancers and throat cancers. The fact that you are putting smoke inside your body in place of air damages the areas lining your mouth, throat, and lungs. Then your brain being deprived of oxygen damages it. The only way to counteract most of the health problems is it to eat it, and even then you are susceptible to all the mental illness that has been linked to weed.

>>134675358
what about the people that stop smoking weed and want to? I guess they're immune from addiction!

>>134675237
I smoke almost daily and I've quit cold turkey several times and never experienced any withdrawal effects whatsoever. Got any source to back up that claim?

>>134667610
Styx gtfo

To load up a bowl or not to load up a bowl hmmmmmmmmm

Yeah but weed makes you a fag

>>134670995
>Recently got some weed which gives me insane headache
I've heard that keep hydrated gets rid of this. Make sure you're drinking water when you're smoking. Also fruits and veggeis help (and are good healthy stoned snacks).

>>134675531
>If you fuck up your own shit it's your own fault.

you're forgetting there part where they tend to fuck up a bunch of other people's shit too along the way.

>>134675334
I don't remember having any withdrawal symptoms either. That was years ago though. I might have had some wacky dreams for like a week. My only point being there are some withdrawal symptoms, but it's negligible.

>>134674529
>there's some strains that just have different effects for different people.

yet DNA research says all the strains available are nearly identical genetically

>>134675814
Yet they contain different proportions of chemicals
how mysterious!

>>134675814
no shit it's the same plant lol

>>134674856
>The CIA literally makes money off of drugs. Legalizing it would cut their profits and distribute to the state and other tax funded things.

wall street would take a hit also, no more need to launder those drug funds

>>134667614
I feel like legalization would destroy the cancerous weed culture by putting dealers out of business and eliminating the illegality of smoking, which is enticing to degenerate faggots. Once the government considers it the same class as coffee 420 culture as we know it will be gone. (I don't think its the same class as coffee by the way, in my view it can have some mental health detriments which are largely imperceptible by doctors studying its harm)

>>134675863

so does anybody have something that is a lot different that what everyone else has?

you ever have that dealer special type of shit?

>>134674526
>>134674627
>>134674699
>>134674865
Your are not addicts then, Lots of people drink a little every day and can stop with no problems.
All of you are to (dude weed lmao) to even understand what I am trying to say. It is one of the most severe addictions

>>134675642
They are very minor, and no I don't really have a source handy nor do I feel like looking one up. It's just intellectually dishonest to say "THERE ARE NO WITHDRAWALS WHATSOEVER"

>>134675963
>I feel like legalization would destroy the cancerous weed culture by putting dealers out of business and eliminating the illegality of smoking,

thats the idea, a big shakedown is coming to the weed biz, tell your dealer friend he better get ready for 500 LBS coming through at wal mart

>>134667431
>zero cannabis deaths

Good. Then the law is working out just fine.

>>134675980
Don't smoke weed anymore but there are special strains which contain more CBD. But dutch-grown weed contains just a lot of THC usually, so if you want CBD you will generally buy hash (imported from morocco or afghanistan).

>>134676044
Nigger I don't even smoke weed anymore.

>>134676044
>It is one of the most severe addictions

being a fucking loser is a severe addiction, that can take many forms but most commonly it's drink and diet

point is you shouldn't tell people what they can do with their body because they will do as they please anyway, show them the way but if they refuse to follow the correct path let them die, plenty more where they came from

>>134676083
Ok I'll give you that.

>>134667431
The shit destroys your mind. It's subtle but over time, especially with heavy use it will fuck you up.
You've been warned.

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>>134667431

>Cannabis is safe

That fucking drug makes you becoming nothing more than a retarted that will have his life fucked up because of the side effects

smoking weed makes you gay. the pipe is modeled after a penis and sticking a phalic object in your mouth that gives you a pleasure is conditioning.

also dicks stimulate the pineal gland. look up how to stimulate the pineal.

so people who deep throat are more woke than you

Cannabis can be harmful and fuck anyone who says otherwise. I'm on DAY 8 of throwing up straight with food poison like symptoms. I havent been able to sleep, im out of energy, and i want to die.

I have cannabis hyperactive emesis.

this shit is so bad I had to go to the er and get fluids IV'd, im still consistently dehydrated and cant keep shit down.

Ive been clean now for 36 hrs and im slowly improving, but god damn. This is a super rare disorder but it makes me not want to touch weed ever again after being a chronic everyday user for the last 8 years.

>>134675717
Hey danish anon I'm curious to know how expensive is weed in Denmark since I've heard it's a very expensive country, how much do would you pay for a regular joint? Is it good or bad quality?

>>134676264
>drugs are bad
Thanks for your original and insightful contribution.

>>134667431
You know what is healthier than smoking weed? Smoking nothing you degenerate

>>134676119
>there are special strains which contain more CBD

you can just let it flower longer to raise CBD levels, some genetics have more power to them than others though, I want the shit the monks in Tibet have

the Swiss have shit with zero THC, like ok you wanted the shittiest plant you could get? wonderful you found it,

>>134667431
>480000 tobacco deaths per year
how do you die from tobacco? lung cancer has never been induced by tobacco in lab animals.

>>134676319
I don't buy premade joints.
But I'd say on average about $10-12 per gram pretty much.
It's not that bad.

>>134676264
>The shit destroys your mind.

meth is better for destroying minds, also sugar and opiates are good for that, not to mention propaganda fucks your mind up good.

>>134675814
Human are nearly identical genetically lol

>>134673141

>It's habituating, but not physically addictive.


Shut the fuck up. Then kill yourself.

>>134676389
>I want the shit the monks in Tibet have
get temple balls then
sadly never got to try that before I quit

>>134676314
Jesus Christ, every day for 8 years? If you were an alcoholic you'd be dead or dying. It shouldn't be illegal because you can't control yourself.

Anyway, I hear hot showers help. Hope you feel better soon and learn some self control.

>>134676502
>get temple balls then

they rarely have seeds in them,

>>134676501
Intelligent post.

>>134676314
>I have cannabis hyperactive emesis.

I hear weed is good for that

>>134676314
My friend cant go to sleep without weed.
Before he started smoking everyday he was fine but now.... he has insomnia like symptoms if he stops.

>>134675980
Our weed states have CBD concentrates and strains (Charlotte's web)

Less psychoactive

>>134676498
>Human are nearly identical genetically lol

well thats what the jesuits say, but the jesuits also recognize there are major differences in how the child will come out based on what the mother ate,

denying the pregnant mother protein guarantees a stupid child, this was done intentionally to make slave castes easier to manage

>>134676432
Sounds ok to be Denmark, still a huge difference with my shitholw where you could get at 15 g for the same money

>>134676730
>Our weed states have CBD concentrates and strains

some vitamin company sent me some of this CBD shit for free, I swear if I had paid full price for this crap it would have been a murder rampage, CBD is a total waste of money, just like paying money for cannabis, why pay for something you can get for free?

>>134676848
Yeah you can also get coke for like what? $5 a g or something like that.
I suppose it's the price we must pay for a higher living standard and what not

>>134667431
>480000 tobacco deaths per year
fake news

>>134676110
You're an idiot. Not for your stance but how you're going about your thought process. Which law? Possession, usage, behavior, or driving while intoxicated?

Niggers still buy and do this shit. Might as well tax it like a crop and put the profit in schools and infrastructure

>>134667431

>lung cancer deaths from cannabis probably get lumped in tobacco, there's no such thing as smoking ANYTHING that isn't harmful
>mental illness isn't death but its a drain on the system

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There's nothing hotter than a gilr who smokes weed

>>134677025
>Might as well tax it like a crop and put the profit in schools and infrastructure

wall street will lose their fucking minds when you do this, seriously it's going to be a meltdown

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>>134667431

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>>134676314
>I have cannabis hyperactive emesis.

I had a female friend who died of chronic pancreas infection because she smoked weed and Cali retard doctors insisted it was CHE.

Fuck morons who don't switch doctors after a diagnosis, if two say the same thing fuck it but goddamn.

>>134677076
>there's no such thing as smoking ANYTHING that isn't harmful

I hear that, I smoked your mom's pussy last night and came away with all these fucked up sores on my cock

>>134677025
>Might as well tax it like a crop and put the profit in schools and infrastructure
You know none of our tax money goes there anon.

>>134676451
You mean the propaganda you fools are spilling all over to make your degenerate weed habit acceptable? Always have to compare it to something else, it never gets defended on its own merits. By that logic, it's fine to smoke meth, at least you aren't injecting it right?
None of it is beneficial for you.

>>134676314

fuck your rare ass disease, how is that an argument

I'm not going to stop eating sushi because there's some gene pool failure somehwere who is allergic to fish

>>134675272

Yeah I don't get it. Some people absolutely swear by Sour D and it's children. I can't stand them. It's weed that smells and tastes like it was smuggled inside of a lawnmower (which if it wasn't for it being legal dispensary weed, I'd actually suspect that), that gets you no higher (and in the case of Ghost Train Haze.. not really high at all, like it had all the cerebral effects EXCEPT euphoria.. weirdest weed I've ever had)

>>134675339
Yeah pesticides used in growing are a problem if you're getting it black market. Black market weed is more prone to using chemical fertilizers, pesticides, and mold. Medical dispensaries tend to be a lot more picky about those things, commercial recreational dispensaries DO use chemical fertilizers more because they want fast growing cycles, but since most the time they're indoor grows they won't NEED pesticides. Pesticides are poison and just because it's meant to be poison to bugs doesn't mean it's not poison to you, just it won't be as dangerous at low dosages, but higher dosages you'll get sick, and most insecticides are NERVE agents so.. headaches and blurred vision and tingling/numbness are symptoms of nerve agent poisoning like if you inhale RAID by accident when spraying a wasp nest.

Some people really really swear by Sour D, I don't get it myself, the budtender that I usually encounter at my dispensary loves the Sour D strains but now he knows that I hate them he will steer me away from anything with Sour D in its lineage.

>>134677090
A girl who doesn't

>>134676985
A personal dose of coke is at $1,5 and I think it's high quality

>>134677280
>budtender
Damn nice

>>134677090
Stoner chicks are a waste of tits.

>>134676924
You can grow charlotte's web!

And extract all on your own. I just like the little candies made with it. They are their own high and I usually get them free. High end shops will over charge.

>>134677394
Fuck me that's cheap

>>134677267
>You mean the propaganda you fools are spilling all over to make your degenerate weed habit acceptable?

it ain't me it's Soros, but this so called degenerate habit in my family is a tradition that goes back to George Washington, whom my ancestors fought with during the American revolution, so you if you have a problem with weed smoking elitist nigger killers you should probably fuck off

but seriously the body of research for cannabis as medicine stretches back over 7K years plenty of good as well as bad, my personal theory about this is that the system wants to bring hemp back, which they have done at the start of every major military conflict these past 200 years

>>134677245
I want it to, so bad. How's Colorado doing? Doesn't Washington do that?

>>134676924
CBD from supplement stores is bullshit, it is extracted from hemp and practically useless. Good CBD oil is sold in dispensaries, and is extracted from cannabis.
t. Joe Rogan

>>134677270
>I'm allergic to milk illegalize it

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>>134671734
>>134667610

>>134671990
lmao stop shilling faggot

>>134677578
Well last time I went back to CO to visit I grabbed a weed soda, because you kind of just have to. It's kind of weird how the process worked at the place I went to, but it still seemed as nice in CO as I remember it.

>>134677280
>Yeah pesticides used in growing are a problem if you're getting it black market.

yeah because the guy at the weed shop only buys his shit from somebody who would never value his profit over your health

GTFO with that bullshit, the only way to be sure is to trust your grower or spot test everything, plenty of ways to attach toxins to weed plants

>>134677394
Show me Juan Pablo

>>134677805
I don't do coke but that's the price they sell it at college

>>134677945
How have you not even tried it when it's that cheap?

>>134667431
Numerous studies shows it lowers your IQ and I;ve seen way too many stoners be " burnt out" anc completely stupid after years of smoking.

I actually quit because it made me feel bumber, and every emotion I had was enhanced, making me extreely biased while viewing media.

too many burn-outs and high dumb kids who eat up anything told to them that sounds good on the street, on campus, in pubs.

So I quit. Didn't want to end up like that, I was starting to despite doing it on occasion/ few times a week every couple of months, and denying it to myself.

Every friend I have who smokes pot is stupid, biased, and has the memory of a goldfish. Ca't even properly remember theories or pay attention to anything.

It's pathetic.

>>134675113
Actually you can have withdrawal symptoms. Like feeling cold, shivers and shakes. It is somewhat related to opiate withdrawal, only much much milder. This is probably, because THC and CBD modulate the opiate receptors.


But I agree it is many times milder then ethanol or opiates. There is no reason to keep it forbidden.

>>134668477
Person who has never smoked detected

>>134667610
this!
who cares about pot heads atm.. i care about the niggers and the kikes and the liberals and the muslims and the feminists and all that trash that is trying to ruin western civilization

>>134669371
Hi alcohol lobbyist!

>>134677652

most non-whites can't drink milk, it's raycis!

>>134678066
A lot of the reason I stopped is that it just makes you really complacent. It's not necessarily a bad thing to use occasionally to alleviate some tension, but long term chronic use might not be the best thing for you. That being said, I don't care about making it illegal. "Stoners" are less of a threat to society than any other group engaging in degeneracy than I can think of.

>>134668462
not only is cannabis not addictive, it actually cures other addictions

>>134675814
>>134675980

Strains do matter, they have different concentrations of various terpenes/terpenoids (flavor and smell molecules, some of which have medical effects), so they smell and taste different and can have minor variances in their effect on top of the THC/CBD primary effects you might be looking for, other minor cannabinoid compounds also have other effects. We all know that THC stimulates appetite, but there's another Cannabinoid (THCv) that suppresses appetite.

The most basic concept is that indica dominant strains make you sleepy and can "couch lock" you, while sativa dominant strains tend to keep you alert, and sometimes can cause anxiety and paranoia. Balanced hybrids are a shot in the dark. some people will get couch locked, some people will be up drawing or playing music late at night unable to sleep.

After that MOST of the difference is flavors/scents. We already discussed the nastiness that is Sour Diesel and its descendents, they smell a little bit like gasoline/engines along with a strong "skunky" smell.

But there's citrusy smelling/tasting buds (recently had some Super Lemon Haze that was amazing, it didn't smell/taste like sour lemons but SWEET lemons, like lemonade), There's berry scent/flavored (like the Blueberry Yumyum that was made popular by a Ludacris song), Purple Urkel smells like a skunk farted a lemon, but tastes like grape drink, not grape juice, grape drink. Girl Scout Cookies has a spicy/peppery taste that makes you think of gingerbread.

For effects, Durban Poison has high THCv so it suppresses Appetite.

Northern Lights (at least Northern Lights #9 that I get) has a distinct muscle relaxant effect.

Harlequin is a high CBD strain that kills inflammation several times better than Ibuprofen.

I didn't believe the strain stuff so much until I got a medical card and actually got to pick strains and see how different they are.

>>134677997
Coke is not cool and I'm scared to develop an addiction for it if I try it, I suffer from severe back pains which I think makes me even more vulnerable to be an addict

>>134678646
>tfw never tried a proper indica strain and my boys that I buy weed with really likes and only buy sativa dominants

>>134678682
It's nice to try at least once. But yes it is a dangerous substance

>>134675237
I quit cold turkey every time I need to. I've done it three times in the last four years when I was trying to get better jobs than the one I was at. I've taken a step up every time and I can go right back to enjoying an evening J when I please.

>>134677774

medical dispensaries are a bit more picky about that. Most of the owners ARE the growers and they have cancer and AIDS patients and don't want to make them sick so they get really picky about chemicals used. Last thing you need to kill business is a medical dispensary owner killing a cancer patient because of pesticides they used.

I've heard from people who grow for both illegal dealers and dispensaries and they all have said that medical dispensary owners are the most picky about the growing conditions. They all want organic grows.

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>>134669991
>Post the study.
He can't. It doesn't fucking exist.

>>134678737
calling bull shit, sativa are no commercial to grow under lights and you don't live in Spain

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>>134672236
loll hahahahahaha aepici post uddel olalhahahahaha afucking upvoted lolling so hard right now lola hahahhaahha aepic

>>134670585
Nope nope nope....you'll cough your lungs out. you need to dry that shit out.

BWH

>>134679098
>1 post by this ID
>this late in a thread
>just to let everybody know how much of an incoherent, babbling moron you are

stop huffing gas, cletus.

>>134678783
>It's nice to try at least once
Idk man I think that's the main problem with drugs, that first time you try them you'll try to emulate later but you can't, but I know some people at college that have tried coke and were regular coke users and they are totally fine now, maybe it's just mindset

I just hate the gurgling sounds bongs make and the dude weed lmao culture

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>>134676268
>retarted
>retarded
wow I'm high af and can still spell "retarded" you fail ass huenigger favela monkey

>>134679306
With all drugs it's about hte mindset

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>>134679268
ehehhehehehehehehe elol

Every stoner I've met has been a waste of potential, and often a waste of life altogether. The best is when these cunts think they're being deep and spiritual but they're coming out with shit even a 6 year old could comprehend. Most of these cunts tend to end up working in call centres or doing some other shit job.

>>134679306
>>134679306

In 70% of the regular users, it is just a phase. 30% fall into the addiction pit. These numbers are almost constant for all recreative drugs. So still better watch out.

>>134678914
Don't get me wrong it's easy as fuck to "quit," if you want to call it that, marijuana. The minor withdrawals that you get isn't from an addiction in the sense of nicotine or heroin, where your body is rewired to crave it and prioritize it above food. It's more of your body readjusting to not having it in it's system. If you only have a joint in the evenings though, that's probably a big reason why you didn't have any withdrawals. I'm referring more to the people that wake and bake constantly (I used to do that). I've also gone through alcohol withdrawals, and nicotine withdrawals. No way marijuana withdrawals are even remotely comparable.

>>134677090
*Doesn't smoke weed

>>134677090

But a cuckold degeneracy endorsing Canadian faggot like yourself would say that.

>>134672236
You can't say that it isn't habit forming. Also those I know who smoke can barely function without it, they never learned how to handle their problems they just smoke until all they can do is stare at the ceiling. They act like alcoholics desu

>>134679382
Probably. How common are drugs in Denmark mostly among young people?