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Why is it SO FUCKING IMPORTANT to millennials that they be allowed

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Why is it SO FUCKING IMPORTANT to millennials that they be allowed to smoke weed? Is it really such an important battle to fight, being able to dull your senses and waste your time?
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>>134625915
all young people are obsessed with it just lime rap you get over it in your early 20s
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>>134625915
If it isn't important why do you give a shit? Alternativly a weed smoker would probably take exception to getting 5-10 with serial killers and child rapist for doing something comparable to drinking alcohol.
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>>134625915
There is no reason for weed to be illegal

Get over it
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>>134625915
>Is it really such an important battle to fight, being able to dull your senses and waste your time?
its called freedom, dipshit
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>>134625915
Shes not Millenial, She's Gen Z
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>>134626124
Not an argument. Only degenerates smoke weed, and only a degenerate would want to.
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>>134625915
I would be fine with its being removed as a schedule 1. Seems kinda silly that half the country has legalized its medical use yet it's still classified as "having no recognized medical use".
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>>134626336
here we go with this generation meme
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i'm fine with weed being legal, but i hate the bullshit propaganda about how it's good for you and not addictive. i know ~10 people irl who are total losers because they smoke pot everyday and have for over a decade. they also claim it's not addictive, that they could quit if they want to but they like it so they don't want to. and when they are out of weed you know they scrape bowls and smoke disgusting ass resin. I know the drill, i was a huge pothead in high school and through my early 20's. again i don't think it should be legal, but fuck these degenerates telling kids that it's as safe as milk and cookies and makes you smarter
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>>134625915
My cat needs it. I have Kratom which doesn't fuck me up and does it's job, unlike NSAIDs, and it's only a couple times a week.
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>>134626338
Man all those cancer patients sure are degenerate. Also why are you using a libertariab meme against liberty.
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I used to be pro-legalization, despite never enjoying it or having the personal inclination to use it.

I later linked up all years of previous experiences with many weed smokers, in my mind. They're pieces of shit without fail and marijuana is an enabler and catalyst for their inward shitty tendencies. Fuck stoners.
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smoking pot is a waste of time but the drug war is a racket to give cops more money.

Drugs are illegal because the government makes more money on fines and prison than they would with taxing it.
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>>134626652
That being said it has a place medically, for pain, cerebral palsy and such, but not socially, for public use.
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>>134625915
But it kills cancer bruh

Maybe people use drugs to escape from their shitty lives OP. You should be nice to them, they might kill themselves or something. Only half joking. Alcohol is the same way by the way. Light drinking and social drinking excluded. People who drink heavily, during the week or by themselves tend to have serious issues
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>>134625915

Why is it important to ban it?

Fuck off fag. CBD cured my chronic migraines. People that oppose legalization should be shot.
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>>134625915
its not. usage of weed has gone down since the 70s. boomers want millinials to smoke weed. who ran the studio that made half baked? couldnt be millinials they were to young

american drug culture in general is the boomers fault
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>>134626373
Really gets the old noggin joggin
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>>134625915
most people know stoners in two ways: They either meet them when they're already a pot smoker, or they get into pot smoking with their friends all at the same time.

The most revealing thing is to remain sober, and watch your formally sober friends begin the habit of smoking weed, and compare them before and after they began smoking. You can't compare if you didn't know the person before they were a stoner, and you also can't compare if you and your sober friends all start at the same time, because then your reality and ability to judge them and yourself clearly is skewed.

I have had several friends get into it after being sober their whole life. I have seen the before and after as a sober onlooker. I can only see how much worse they have become since they started. Saddest of all, they think it was the best thing to ever happen to them.
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I like how faggots who complain about stoners never bitch and moan about alcoholics, despite the fact alcohol kills leagues more people. Kinda hypocritical since both lifestyles arw degenerate. There's even an official prohabition party, yet the kiddies here seem dead set on targeting weed. Strange indeed.
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>>134625915
Because when all your money goes to rent, car, and others bills and you have like 40 bucks left to enjoy life you pretty much have intoxicants as your option. You alter your brain chemistry so you can forget that life is hell for a good 6-8 hours. Getting stoned is better than getting drunk.
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>>134625915
Cause I rather dull my senses then use my imagination after a 12 hour work day, than watch (((propaganda))) forced down my throat via television that still dulls my senses.
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>>134625915
It's not about weed for me it's just about liberty in general.
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>>134626338
>Not an argument
>Proceeds with wanton ad hom, which is not an argument
Not an argument
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>>134626811
This except I strongly oppose capital punishment for this crime and instead insist they should just literally do jail time. Like the governor of Vermont should actually spend six months in jail.
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>>134626373
It isn't schedule 1 retard
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Current lifestyles in the western industrialized world do not jive well with biology for most men. If men did not have addictions, whether weed, internet porn, alcoholism, or compulsively browsing pol, there likely would mass outbreaks of violence and suicide every day.
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> Complains about people wasting time.
> Posts on /pol/

Everytim.
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>>134626754
>Alcohol is the same way by the way. Light drinking and social drinking excluded.

Even light and social alcohol drinking is degenerate. Just look around and see how much Western society revolves around "having a drink". It's fucking ridiculous.

Better to not drink alcohol either. It's a crutch and unproductive waste of time.
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>>134627332
Acktually it is.
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>>134627332
Administrative Controlled Substances Code Number 7350
Administrative Controlled Substances Code Number 7360
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>>134626930
OY VEY GOYIM IT'S JUST A PLANT GOD WOULDN'T PUT IT HERE IF HE DIDN'T WANT YOU TO SMOKE IT
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>>134625915
Fuck off you obsessive kike, piss on your need to control other peoples lives. Hope you die.
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>>134627629
DUDE WEED LMAO
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>>134626976
Every time. This is what I'm talking about. One even told me how addictive it really is and the withdrawals he gets, then stopped being upset about whatever made him salty over being a stoner, and went right back to being a stoner.

Drugs don't help you cope, they don't expand your minds, or make you more creative, they just put you in a stupor and freeze you in-place.

That's just weed, you should see proper tweakers, or even just coke heads.
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>>134627936
But again, I'd like to state that I recognize and support its use for legitimate medical issues.
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>>134625915
its the baby red pill
>gov won't let me do something and lies about it heaps, i should smoke it to stick it to the man

sadly not many people progress past this point
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>>134626976
Fuck man, you really get it. I experienced the same thing, but with alcohol. One of my friends is an absolute alcoholic, and all my other friends when they're in a group never want to do anything sober because it's "boring". It fucking crushes me sometimes man, and this is before the drugs, I can't even look at them then. Like, I don't mind getting a drink at a bar, but with females around too everyone has to get super fucked up. One on one my friends are still the same, but in a group, nah. So I spend less and less time with them all and I drift apart bit by bit. I just want my old friends back. It's partly my fault too for not stopping them, I can only save my best friend.

Drugs are a fucking cancer, all kinds, even the less harmful ones when taken to an excess. Sorry for a blogpost, but this post just hit home way too hard.
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They've hyped themselves up on stoner science and unironically believe it cures (not "treats") cancer, seizures, depression, and pretty much every other disease/ailment.
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Why is it SO FUCKING IMPORTANT to millennials who deny that they're millennials what other people do with their own bodies?
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>>134627936
Thats why they want to legalize weed

When j was a kid i hot beat up in school weekly and became depressed. Of course they did not put the attackers on SSRIs to help my depression or their violence, they put ME on drugs

They are extending this policy as far as they can on a voluntary basis
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>>134625915
Simple, weed being illegal ruins the integrity and legitimacy of our laws. If smoking pot is illegal but acceptable other illegal things become acceptable. Like importing spics illegally.
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How else are they going to have fun and pretend they are something in this world without something to dull the senses
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The United States was founded on freedom FROM government, we were founded on the principles of liberty and independence. For some of you slower users, you know, the ones who scream degenerate at everything they don't like, independence means that you solely can choose what is right for you, it is synonymous with freedom.

Being free people in a free country SHOULD give us the right to do with our own bodies, money, lives, time, etc any GOD DAMNED THING we so choose. So if Steve and Gary want to buttfuck each other until their assholes bleed, it is none of my business and I will call for no law against it as it does not harm me one bit. If Raykwon and Jamal want to smoke marijuana until their eyes bleed it harms me none and I again do not wish the government to tell them what they can do with their own bodies as consenting adults.

You see, the power you hand government over your "enemies" may one day be the power turned against you. Smoking pot is degenerate and it should be outlawed said the magapedes and so it was done. Playing vidya is degenerate said the hillarites and it should be outlawed, and so it was done. Not sharing your excess money is selfish and degenrate said the bernouts, it should be illegal to not share said the bernouts, and so it was done.

You see when the political winds shift the power you ceded shall never again return, never cede power to the government, never, for no reason. Keep Americans free, let them choose their own lifestyle whether or not you agree with it.

Marijuana is just one issue of a million that the government has no business in, now obviously there SHOULD BE LAWS protecting children, public roadways, etc, etc.

Your freedom end where anothers begins, just because you should legally be able to smoke pot does not mean that you should be able to go in to a daycare smoking reefer, and obviously we need laws for stuff like that because as evident by many posters in this thread people are fucking stupid.
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speaking for myself it's purely a moral thing. I don't think the government can justify prohibition when plenty of other equal or worse drugs are perfectly legal.
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>>134625915
[Quick preface: I don't give a fuck what you do, and believe strongly in decriminalization of all substances]

I think it's symptomatic of a larger issue:
You've got these young men and women who grow up in a world where the main source of media is yellow journalism, and the integrity of the information is questionable.
Your main source of entertainment is also your source of sexual gratification (porn), your source of news, and your source of communication. That breeds a lack of desire to explore your surroundings (You could just Google it), a lack of desire to socialize (just text your friends), and a lack of desire to PRODUCE content instead of consume it (Why bother? Your favorite Youtuber is right in your pocket!)
Then (if you're white) you've got popular culture that says "If you're white, or a man, you have privilege and you are a horrible person".
Throw in the fact that modern education (at least in the US) does not reward excelling beyond the average, unless you skip your entire childhood and go straight to college. Even then, it's just about passing the tests to get your meme degree.
Combine that with a general lack of responsibility and purpose.

Bam, widespread drug abuse.
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>>134627936
>Drugs don't help you cope, they don't expand your minds, or make you more creative, they just put you in a stupor and freeze you in-place.

So why should i believe you over the like dozens of people who argue the exact opposite, and actually have the creative accomplishments to back that up as more than an anecdote? Literally hundreds of documented artists across all mediums and several generations have experimented with weed and their art.

And that's not to say everyone is going to have such an experience, but you're making a pretty big sweeping declaration, based off of anecdotes in the face of hundreds of conflicting opinions and verified creative works and artists that have been positively influenced.

Maybe there's some shade of gray inbetween? Maybe everyone who smokes weed isn't some strung out dreadhead. Nah.
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Any marijuana legislation one way or the other shouldn't be happening. There are so many other more important things to crusade about.
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>>134626373
>no recognized medical use
>US government holds patent for medical marijuanna use
US patent 6,630,507
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>>134627332
Marijuana is schedule 1, you complete ass
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>>134628197
Even "helpful" drugs, like addies turn people into these retarded manchildren, unable to learn and grow. There they think how great it is they can suddenly resist that Steam sale and study, like that wasn't possible before getting jacked up on legal speed.

You can leave someone on drugs for years and come back to them and it's like they're still in high school or whatever phase you left them in.

Is our purpose on this earth not to grow and learn?
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>>134628319
Freedom fro. Government also means the government cannot mandate that qe accept things we dont eant. States have the powet tk ban drugs and gays

Now shut up and go away. The role of the government is not tk force inclusion

Fuck faggots, fuck niggers, fuck drugs
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Why is it SO FUCKING IMPORTANT to white people that they eat pork and drink alcohol? Is it really such an important battle to fight? Just accept the true faith of Islam my brothers.
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>>134628426

you're right. Marijuana is great for creativity. I think people should approach it accordingly. If you're an artist or doing extremely creative things, sure feel free to smoke weed here and there. But there are many professions and lifestyles where smoking weed daily is disadvantageous.

Not everyone can or should live as a bohemian artist. There has to be a sense of normalcy in society.
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>>134625915

Its effects upon smoking or ingesting are far less powerful than alcohol. Its easy to quit. Its easy to not as smoke as much. Its harmful effects upon the body are far less severe than alcohol. Its medicinal effects are wide ranging and useful.

Cannabis should not be illegal. It should not be tested for in drug testing. Its complete insanity to keep spending time and resources keeping it illegal.
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If you can't handle weed without being a degenerate you're a fucking pussy.

Same goes for alcohol, fuck even coke.

MMMMMMODERATIONNNNNN
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>>134628652
Nice.
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>>134628691
Bohemian artists should pay for their own food or starve to death friendo

Their very existence makes it harder for dutiful christians to find vjrgin wives. There is a compelling case for simply killing all artists
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>>134628481
This patent is showing for me as cannabinoids. Thats far from the whole plant which is what the scheduling is for. Even Texas legalized some cannabinoids a few years ago.
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>>134625915
You know,you ask a good question. Why do they NEED permision from the state to do something they enjoy? Hippies didn't give a shit,neither did blacks and whoever smoked pot
It's not like you go to prison for smoking so why do these kids NEED permission to smoke it?
Statist trash
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>>134628631
You are not American and I wouldn't expect you to understand, stay in your oppressive shithole and do what big daddy government tells you to, you simple minded faggot mongoloid.
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>>134628847
funny thing, the people that voted for Trump probably have more in common with that sentiment than yours.
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>>134628844
My weed was recently laced with Adderall. And even now I can only get one kind. Shit loads of problems with the black market.

>durr statist trash

Nice buzzword
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>>134628691
>where smoking weed daily is disadvantageous.

To that i'd agree.

But i'd still be fine with it recreationally for anyone in moderation, like any and everything. Just because there exist fuckheads who need every second inhale to be from a bong doesn't mean i shouldn't be able to enjoy a bit of weed every now again, same way drunk fuckheads who wrap themselves around a pole driving home drunk don't stop me from knocking back a cold one every now and again.

And the argument of recreational use vs daily recreational abuse is one i've found many pot smokers are happy to discuss, but the nuance is always lost on straight edge faggots on /pol/.
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>>134626162
This. It's a waste of public resources. It's a recreational plant, and basically harmless. This is why I can't stand Jeff sessions.
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>>134628847
I am a white american dipshit.

The poor people here are polite and afraid, as they should be. They work, or they starve to death, and theybunderstand their inferiority.

Have fun being forced to bake gay cakes at gunpoint by your misinterpretation of the fucking constitution you idiot
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>>134629022
He hasn't done anything yet.
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>>134628921
I voted for (((Trump))) my damn self, care to elaborate on the sentiment you speak of?
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>>134628794
Only the top half of society seems to have moderation. I'm sure there's plenty of fit yuppies that eat at Wholefoods and occasionally smoke marijuana, but of the many, many people I've seen and known personally, they were all faggots, young and old. What little redeeming qualities they had or ability to better themselves they possessed was roundly suppressed and choked out by the numbing effects of weed. It really does make these losers feel like they're fine just the way they are. No talents to hone, no goals to achieve, just out on a shitty YouTube rap playlist and not clean your apartment, ever.
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>>134625915
>Why is it SO FUCKING IMPORTANT
Its not. Also look at the shitskin in your pic. Civilization tend to devolve into base garbage the browner it gets. Humanity will never reach the stars.
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>>134629046
you're a fucking moron, to put it politely and are not worthy of any further reply.
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>>134629022
Weed is he only substance that substantially lowers iq that is in wode circulation

If coca cola sold a product that lowered iq, theyd be sued

Everyone is a realist about iq until it comes to weed. Any other product gets sued outbof the market. Even high school football
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>>134629172
Oh, okay. Youre a nigger? Can someone ban this idiot
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>>134629249
Worse. He's an anarcho-capitalist.
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>>134629446
>jimmies rustled
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>>134629446
He doesnt strike me as ancap. He is complaining about the dignity of low iq people.

Ancaps would use people below 110 iq as mulch
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>>134626336
True Gen Z is under 18 now
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>>134629187
NO you are completely wrong. Alcohol is a substance that does MUCH more damage to the brain as well as other organs, yet its legal. You have to be smoking weed from sunrise to sunset (abusing it) for it to do damage. Excessive coca cola consumption leads to diabetes, excess weight gain among other health issues, so should that be banned too?

Weed is ONLY illegal cause of big pharma wants to keep it that way, so they can continue to sell death in their prescription meds.
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>>134629446
It is a true fucking shame that those who fully understand, support and abide by the Constitution are labeled anything other than a true American. What's worse yet is that we, the American people are the last line of checks and balances on our government. You are a disgrace to the flag, you have no sense of what freedom is, and on the same not you clamor for more government intervention.

In short you are nearly worthless, I say nearly because you would make a great meat curtain.
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Governments have no right in telling people what they can and cannot do with their bodies.

Junkies will always be junkies no matter what laws are in place. Better they can get a clean source of drugs which is taxed instead of potentially (more) dangerous drugs than they would get from their local street dealer.

Drug abuse seems to be a culture problem due to lack of knowledge (poor education) and/or people being raised in a poor manner resulting in a lacking mindset (unable to understand the future consequences of their actions).
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>>134629674
Everyone right down to fucking Starbucks is scared of legal weed. When it comes out that weed is actually a performance enhancer there will be a shitstorm.
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>>134625915
fuck off you fucking alcoholic faggot
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>>134629674
Fitter/turner here, how come the 2 weed smokers at my work are both dumb as fuck in the same way? Both get confused and can't remember basic shit, both have appalling attendance records.
I can actually tell a heavy smoker now without having asked them. They always have the same scatter brain.
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>>134629674
Alcohol needs to be consumed in excessive amounts to ruin brain function. Ethanol is a natural component of digestion, if you werent aware.

Even small amounts of weed literally sever neural connections. The substance is completely foreign to our biology

You have no clue what youre talking about
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>>134628984
weedboos are the same trassh that are for ubi and other shit that will give nameless beaurocrats complete power over the individual while said individual is worrying about cave shadows of muh globalists
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>>134628824
>dutiful christians
Enjoy your jew on a stick religion kek
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>>134629917
1. Black Market
2. Indica vs Sativa
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>>134629728
Ah yes, he REAL constitution mandates that the role of the government is to force you to accept blacks, gay marriage, and drugs in your community, or be sent to prison

Very insightful
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>>134625915
>dull your senses
false
>waste your time?
true to major degree
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>>134629970
Christianity is false but provides a path for nice idiots to contribute to society without doing harm

An idiot arguing about the meaning of a passage is an idiot that isnt applying for a degree in anti racist feminist genetics

You idiots have no clue how the world works
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>>134629933
>Even small amounts of weed literally sever neural connections
Any citations?
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>>134627936
>Drugs don't help you cope, they don't expand your minds, or make you more creative, they just put you in a stupor and freeze you in-place.
So either you've never done weed or your IQ is too low to be affected in a positive manner. Either way, sucks to be you.
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>>134629172
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>>134629851
Weed is legal where I am and all it's done is made fucktons of cunts move to this asshole state, driving up rent and property value, increasing business for all and sundry. Just leave the fuckin' matter to the states. Want to see your economy boom? Legalize the shit.
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>>134629187
Meth is in wide circulation. So is Heroin. Even wider is the circulation of pain meds.
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>>134627024
Alcohol kills whites. And also encourages promiscularity, that's why you'll never see the shills attacking it
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>>134626162
It stinks.

It's a waste of time.

It gives you cancer.

It's a gateway drug.

People who smoke weed are more likely to be violent.

People who smoke weed are more likely to commit crimes.

It causes you to be a loser and a slacker.

There is no reason to smoke weed, other than to be a fucking idiot. And idiots are not good for society.

I could go on and on. So, yes, there is plenty of reason for it to be legal and no reason you need to smoke it.
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Seriously guys, if your imagination is so fuckin Jewed by TV and other mindless brain rotting entertainment that you need a substance just to enjoy things or appreciate life then you may as well hang yourself right now
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ITT: Lazy jobless assholes insult lazy jobless assholes.
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>>134629933
>Cabanoids aren't naturally found in the brain
>Alcohol doesnt straight up kill you if you drink too much
I shouldnt really expect better from an asian monkey nigger I guess
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>>134630287

*sigh*

I could go on and on. So, yes, there is plenty of reason for it to be illegal and no reason you need to smoke it.
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>>134630208
I'm showing that alcohol sales are down in Denver and Starbucks stock just dropped 4%

Weed is a literal miracle drug and they know it.
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Shown to lower your IQ by around 8 points. Pot is for fucking losers.
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>>134628319
That mindset of letting your enemies grow stronger got us where we are now, retard.
Morals are important and if they aren't enforced, everyone suffers.
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>>134630287
Wow when you make an action illegal it *gasp* makes the people who do it more likely to be criminals?!?! Stop the fucking presses we have a big brain genius right here! Who could have BEGUN to understand such complex thought! (Ps it doesnt help your position when it can also be applied to legal substances like alcohol. Juat saying)
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Denver cocaine fatal overdoses are up a whopping 50%
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>>134630586
Also
>reddit fucking spacing
Banned from r/the_donald?
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>>134630434
>Morals are important and if they aren't enforced, everyone suffers.

So sad that you don't see the error in this statement. Who sets the moral standards? You? the pope? Bill Clinton? your mom?

If you can not understand how IMPOSSIBLE it is to legislate morality then you are the second dumbest motherfucker in this thread, the only thing you will do in your pursuit to legislate what is right and what is wrong is give the government immeasurable power while removing any remaining power you had as an individual.

oh what a sad state this once free land is in.
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>>134630647
Yea and opiun deaths are up nationwide, what's your point
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>>134630287
>It gives you cancer.
wrong

>It's a gateway drug.
meh. if i start from milk, and end with alcohol, does that make weed a gateway beverage?

>People who smoke weed are more likely to be violent.
cite?

>People who smoke weed are more likely to commit crimes.
that's retarded. people who breathe air are more likely to commit crimes. WE NEED AIR PROHIBITION.

>It causes you to be a loser and a slacker.
ok, that's a meritable point. but if someone's a loser/slacker on weed, they were going to do that anyways. there's successful people that smoke, but it's mostly because their job/etc allows it etc

>There is no reason to smoke weed, other than to be a fucking idiot. And idiots are not good for society.
"there's no reason to drink alcohol, other than fucking idiots." see where this is going?
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>>134630720
Denver opioid deaths are down 25% and heroin deaths are up 25% so that's pretty obvious that those two offset each other. So what about cocaine? What could cause such a sudden and drastic spike in Denver cocaine fatal overdoses?
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>>134630811
>does that make weed a gateway beverage?
well. this is why you don't smoke pot, kids. stupid typo.
i'll show myself the door
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>>134628599
I think my least favorite drug is adderal. Most of the people I know who are on it use it to over-analyze everything. Sad, really. They think that means they're smart. It actually means they're sort of stupid.

>>134628197
I understand. I went through basically the exact same thing you posted. Eventually, I just couldn't be friends with them anymore. I've been sober for years and I've never had more fun, honestly. Ask yourself the funnest moments of your life. If you're honest with yourself, you'll realize they were all when you were sober. Any 'fun' time you had while high or drunk, always starts with 'because I was high or drunk'. Now I have a beer here and there, but I'm never even close to drunk, not even close to buzzed, because I drink one beer with a large meal for a special occasion every couple of months.

The biggest one who can tell the difference between sober and drug use though is parents. THey've known you your whole life. They've seen you at your purest. I had parents of my friends call me being like "is **** smoking pot now". I wouldn't rat our my old friends, but I would say "I don't know, but they sure do seem different now, don't they". what those kids don't realize is how lucky they even were to have parents who cared that much. Most parents of stoners could care less.
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>>134630686
>Who sets the moral standards
The state, just like what the U.S used to do. You do know that race mixing was illegal at one point, yeah? Nazi Germany did the same. It's possible, retard. You claim that the possible is impossible when it's clearly happened multiple times throughout history. The only time a nation turns to hedonism and things like sex and drugs is when it's in decline. Pick up a book fucktard.
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itt: virgin losers
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>>134626338
not an arguement
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>>134626338

>alcohol isn't degenerate because it's legal!

sort yourself
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>>134631055
t. an angry roastie

get the fuck out before i strangle you with dick, cunt.
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didn't know nu-nu-pol is so full of degenerates that fall for le weed jew
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>>134630981
Ok, I'm officially done with you you're a fucking moron of the highest degree.

>it's ok the state tells me how to live I love the state
>holy shit BERNIE JUST GOT ELECTED!!
>Bernie is now the state! I don't like Bernie!
>Bernie is now telling me how to live I hate the state!
>How the fuck did this happen!!???

die in a fucking fire! you are a traitor of the worst fucking kind.
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If I have my stats right, In just the first half of 2017 border patrol has already seized double the amount of cocaine that they did in the entire years of 2016, 2015, etc.
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>>134626976
Yep this.

I quit smoking weed and my friends kept smoking. It's been 5 years now, and they are still smoking. I've finished my degree and moved on with my life, and they are still doing the exact same shit as they were 5 years ago, except a few of them knocked up some girls by accident.

Before they started smoking, they were much more interesting. More expressive, more talkitive, more creative, and much more ambitious.

Weed is a drug, and it makes you dumber. I became dumber while smoking it, and my friends have continued to become dumber while smoking it.

Fuck weed fags, alcohol drinkers too. Smoke pot, get shot retards
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>>134631303
Cocaine is the new pot for College kids, because weed is the new alcohol for high-school kids. What's next?
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>>134626124
child rapists get protective custody due to how frequently prisonors murder them
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>>134631376
That seems to be what's happening. And I was a little off. That stay is going by their fiscal year which ends September 30. So basically, border patrol has seized twice the amount of cocaine in 2017 that they have in recent previous years.
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>>134625915
>why is it SO FUCKING IMPORTATNT to people in the 1920s that they be allowed to drink alcohol? Is it really such an important battle to fight, being able to dull your senses and waste your time?
reminder that if you're against weed you should be against booze and likely tobacco as well, and if you aren't you're a hypocrite.
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>>134631276
Why do you assume all forms of the state is bad? Night of the long knives happened for a reason you fucking idiot. No Leftist parties allowed in NatSoc land. Hell, no other parties at all.
A group will always be stronger than the individual. A group can function well or it can not, what matters is policy. Even a shitty group is usually stronger than the individual.
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>>134631513
Weed and alcohol are for fucling degenerate slackers

Just be sober.
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>>134630686
>you can not understand how IMPOSSIBLE it is to legislate morality
Legislated morality is the only reason you haven't been killed by a nigger yet. Keep that in mind, faggot.
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>>134625915
Because it's a stupid law, I don't smoke but weed is harmless and the quicker the government shuts up about it the sooner stoners will stop being relevant.
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when pot becomes a non-issue all this hysteria you fucking moralfags bring to the table will cease, only to be heard in churches. and yes, I'm stoned right now
>>134631366
>>134626976
>>134625915
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>>134627429
I mean I don't disagree with you. I don't drink, but drinking itself isn't indicative of personal issues like smoking weed is. It's difficult to put into words but because it's normalized it means less when people do it, because they're following a norm instead of breaking it. It requires less form them from a psychological perspective. It's just what you do. There's also some measure of being forced to participate in it since it's such a fundamental behavior in the world we live. A lot of jobs practically require you to drink and refusing would be kind of retarded. Avoiding weed is pretty damn easy though. Illegal in most states and still seen as degenerate by most adults. To smoke it anyway means you have a strong motivation
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>>134631475
I can believe it. In Orlando, FL, where I went to college, it was getting pretty popular before I graduated in 2013. Especially the Winter Park area, near Rollins, where there is a lot of money. I can only imagine it's gotten much worse since then.
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>>134631890
>Yeah man just take a few drags off that good shit bro. This is the legal shit bro I got this from a guy out in CO it's called Neon Mountain Kush man good shit

We need a duterte in America so badly so we can "end the drug war" once and for all
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>>134631711
no dipshit, not even close, also I AM FUCKING DYING LAUGHING AT YOU SWEDE!!!!

Let me tell you what has kept me from being killed by a nigger, the Constitution. That's right you muslim throating faggot, my freedom is what keeps me alive, maybe it is my HK, or my AK's, maybe it's my Colt 6920's, I dunno, but it damn sure aint the government telling me or anyone else what is right or wrong. In case you are unaware just because shit is illegal doesn't mean people don't do it. I really got a good laugh from your post, might I suggest you worry about your own country before trying to stick your semen covered nose in American business....

This thread is half full of foreign faggots who know JACK FUCKING SHIT about freedom, and sadly the other half are American boot licking cocksuckers who aren't worthy of sucking the sweat off a patriots nuts.
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>>134632025
Apparently we're getting flooded with it right now. Illegal market for marijuana has dried up so they start shipping more cocaine. Combine that with a "fuk da man" mentality no matter what the laws are, and apparently we get a 50% spike in cocaine deaths in Denver.
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>>134632200
lol this (you) shows how fucking shallow minded you are
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>>134631713
>the quicker the government shuts up about it

ULTRA KEK

The quicker the GOVERNMENT shuts up about it?

of all the times I see weed mentioned, it's the government speaking in probably less than 1% of cases.
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make it legal. it's just a plant.
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>>134632439
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>>134629172
>I have no argument
Almost as good as
>You don't know me

Gas yourself
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>>134629933
Yea right, your a fucking moron if you think I would belive that. Alcohol IS much more damaging that is a FACT you fuckin retarded mongoloid. Weed in moderation enhances creative processes in the brain. Go hang yourself and do the world a favour.
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>>134625915
>dull your senses
Here you go, you got it. Yes, when you grow around 3 generations of full blown nihilists, the constraints of meaninglessness is so severe that you really just want to avoid sobriety for the rest of your life. This is what happens when your culture is mind poison.
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Anything on the horizon? I don't think anything's happening at all for another 15 months. But then holy shit boys. Even fucking Oklahoma is on the ballot.
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>>134632253
Makes sense... It will be interesting to see what happens with that in the next 5-10 years. I'll be keeping a closer eye on it, that's for sure.
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>>134630287
This is unironically a good post
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>>134632739
Yeah that'll be crazy if we actually go through another literal disco era of coke.
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It really helps me pop my neck back into place.
>100% VA disability rating.
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>>134625915
>WHY DO PEOPLE WANT THE FREEDOM TO PEACEFULLY ENJOY SOMETHING THAT LITERALLY POSES NO THREAT TO ANYONE BUT THE USER??? WHY IS IT SO IMPORTANT TO THEM, THAT UNNECESSARY ATTACKS ON THEIR NEGATIVE LIBERTY WITH NO REAL IMPORTANCE OR EFFECT ON SOCIETAL STABILITY ARE DONE AWAY WITH?

Gee, I dunno, OP.
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>>134632496
based putin bro
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>>134625915
Because alcohol provides a shitty "high" if you can even call it that and something as nonlethal as weed should at least be completely decriminalized and ideally legalized. Nobody wants to have to buy weed from some shifty non-white person. Making weed legal will ensure that people who don't want to break the law and are the best at botany will dominate the market.

End weed prohibition now.
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I smoked weed from 17 tell 26. I've been off it for 7 months, and feel like I'm living in a post apocalyptic sci-fi movie.

Weed kills your soul, and chances are that if you are able to get good grades in school, or function well while smoking daily then you have hi IQ, but you are operating at 80% capacity.
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>>134625915
It doesn't dull your senses. It heightens your senses. It's not alcohol you dumb faggot.
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>>134625915
having alcohol and tobacco legal while weed is banned is political hypocrisy

prohibition never works, if anything, people want it even more because its 'forbidden fruit'

yes weed is degenerate, but quite frankly, its a kind of degeneracy I wouldn't have much problems accepting. Drunks are far far FAR worse than potheads any day of the week.

Either ban both alcohol and weed, or make both legal. Everything else is just pandering to special interests.
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>>134626162
>There is no reason
There is. It's called numbing the wills of men (and women but are irrelevant) further. Be chill and zen and shiz, yo.
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>>134633279
>Heightens your senses

Every stoner thinks they are some sort of super human genius, when they spend their time watching netflix, playing video games, hanging out with other self-inflated pot head losers. Weed in no way heightens your senses...... not even a little bit.
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>>134633134
>alcohol is the same or worse
>therefore weed is good!
Yeah doesn't work that way friendo. Alcohol has more serious immediate complications like alcohol poisoning but weed when used consistently has consistent complications. Causes issues with memory, increased chance of heart failure, and the obvious risk of cancer the same as cigarettes. It also kills motivation just like everything that gives you a high. Hell video games kill motivation in the same way, its just less severe in degree. Anything that gives you that shot of dopamine will replace other things like achievements or human relationships if it provides more dopamine easier or quicker. That's what motivates us to do what we're supposed to do, by introducing a new variable you're screwing up the finely tuned result of evolution
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>>134628319
This guy gets it
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Every dope smoker ever has to bring up alcohol in defense of their drug of choice.
BOTH ARE BAD
Just because one is legal doesn't justify making everything else legal.
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>>134626476
That's a lie I've been smoking weedweed for 8 years during my growing up fase and I've lived through the panic and anxiety attacks, seen 10+ ppl going literal crazy and ending up in mental hospital if I don't smoke for 1 week plus I can't sleep/have a lot off nightmares, people shilling for weed usually never truly dove into it. Only true reason to be pro-weed is to make sure the profits aren't handed by criminals and dirty cops (cops do sell dope it's not a meme) and take off policing power on the people. And in the end I've never heard someone say I had a fight with my wife so I went to smoke weed and came back to beat her up, unlike alcohol.
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>>134633415
It literally intensifies the way I experience stimuli, as opposed to alcohol which numbs and decreases motor control over my body. You don't know shit.
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>>134633415
Weed makes them so retarded that they think noticing the lights being turned on is some kind of ''heightened senses state''.

It's dangerous to drive while under any influence because just like with most other substances, your perception and your senses are fucked up, despite what you may think at the time.

>Keep in mind half the people writing ITT are already stoned.
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>>134633436
It's serotonin not dopamine you idiot. Dopamine is far more base level.
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>>134625915
Leftards would rather have the right to smoke weed than the right to free speech.
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>>134633624
Uh yeah legally it does. It's called a legal precedent. Everything less harmful than alcohol.
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>>134633679
>Intensifies the way I experience stimuli

Yeah.... makes TV and video games better. KYS degenerate.
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>>134633457
If you have preexisting socialized systems like insurance then you can't just fall back on muh freedom because your choices affect other people whether you wish that were the case or not. If you drop out of high school then chances are you'll either work dead end jobs or be unemployed, in which case you're a welfare baby being subsidized by everyone else. No way to avoid this without getting rid of all those mechanisms. Till then, people have pretty good reason to weigh in on others' choices. What you consume isn't much different. Get alcohol poisoning? Hospital trip, with the cost spread among other people with the same health insurer, or if you don't have insurance and can't pay yourself it'll be spread between everyone else who uses the hospital and has the ability to pay. If I weren't affected by degenerates I wouldn't give a shit if they ruined their lives.
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>>134625915
they have nothing better to do.

thanks to birth control, they can be teenagers indefinitely.
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>>134633436
I'm not some delusional weed advocate. Drugs are bad, I know. That doesn't mean the state has to fucking put people in prison for using them. What if somebody doesn't like to eat vegetables and has a bag of potato chips every day? You wanna lock them up too?

Self harm shouldn't be illegal.
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>>134633679
>When I'm stoned, I enjoy crack-whore bjs the most.
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>>134632248
>america
>freedom
4/10 almost took the bait
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>>134625915
Why is it SO FUCKING IMPORTANT to you that millennials not be allowed to smoke weed? Is it really such an important battle to fight, being able to claim the moral high ground and waste everyone's time?
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>>134633712
They're both involved "you idiot", I'm simplifying because we're having a discussion on an image board, not collaborating on a research paper. It is also totally irrelevant to the actual point.
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>>134633788
I am unable to enjoy tv and play vidya while high. I like to put on music and deeply analyze it, or simply get lost in my own thoughts (contrary to popular belief, weed makes you think pretty hard. You just turn more inward, appearing slow to the outside world).
Oh and smoking weed has helped a ton with my autism, in that it has helped be identify my rigid thought patters and break free from them. Whenever I smoke I feel more like a normal human being.
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>>134633789
you proved my point, GET GOVERNMENT OUT OF PRIVATE DECISIONS!

Take your Bernie government and hop in a fucking oven! Stop making me pay for other peoples decisions! let me live my own life, with my own choices and my own consequences. Are you seriously this fucking dense?!!! You are saying we can't be free because we are not free, I say NO FUCKING SHIT! GET GOVERNMENT OUT OF OUR BEDROOMS, OUT OF OUR LIVES, OUT OF OUR FAMILIES, OUT OF OUR FUCKING MIRRORS! Uncle sam has ZERO fucking business making me pay for you or the choices you make.

Jesus Christ help this country!
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>>134633985
No you're not, youre just fucking wrong. Gee I wonder what else you're wrong about.
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>>134633838
If the discussion is on the practicality of actually prohibiting it then I feel a lot less strongly. If that's all our disagreement is then I'll drop it. Things we talk about on/pol/ are almost always conceptual so I assumed that's what we were doing
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1iXT30kCC8&t=353s

Just observe these creatures /pol/. They remind me so much of the kind of people I hung around with at college (unfortunately)
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>>134629933
>
cannaboids are found naturally in your body, and you also injest many things that your body does not naturally make....you need to actually be specific when debating. Dont base your whole point on an appeal to nature fallacy lol

>weed lowers iq, listen to my fallacious point, i didnt even know i was basing my point on a fallacy cus my iq is high
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>>134634018
Adding to that: my mother had severe nerve pain in her head and tried tons of medication. Nothing worked. Out of desperation she told me she would like to try weed so I let her smoke a teeny tiny crumb and she was pain free that entire evening.
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>>134634098
Cocaine, substituted amphetamines (including methamphetamine), Adderall, methylphenidate (marketed as Ritalin or Concerta), MDMA (ecstasy) and other psychostimulants exert their effects primarily or partly by increasing dopamine levels in the brain by a variety of mechanisms.[84] Cocaine and methylphenidate are dopamine transporter blockers or reuptake inhibitors; they non-competitively inhibit dopamine reuptake, resulting in increased dopamine concentrations in the synaptic cleft.[85][86]:54–58 Like cocaine, substituted amphetamines and amphetamine also increase the concentration of dopamine in the synaptic cleft, but by different mechanisms.[24][86]:147–150

Copied straight form the Wikipedia article on dopamine. You're a fucking retard.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dopamine#Drug_addiction_and_psychostimulants
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>>134634257
I'm less against medical use. Recreational use is degenerate. See this video >>134634214
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>>134625915
Stoners are lowest of the low, look at canada and le blaze it faggots that voted for Trudeau.
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>>134630403
post evidence.
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>>134625915
There's literally nothing wrong with occasional cannabis use. If you use more than once or twice a month you're more likely than not a piece of garbage though.
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>>134629615
You're not actually that retarded are you? Millennials cut off at the mid 90s. Not sure how you could consider a pre-schooler as having "grown into adulthood" during the turn of the century. If you weren't graduating by the time the 00s ended you're not a Millennial.
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>>134634018
>>134634018
weed makes you over think thing. Sometimes a song is just a song. Sometimes a movie is just a movie.

Weed smokers are obsessed with their own thoughts. THat's actually a big problem in the world today. Everyone is.

after studying his own enviroment, man has begun to study himself.Up to that point, he had assumed his own reason and through it seen all other things. Now, his own reason has become the object: it is as if we took our eyes out of our head to look at them. It's basically pot smokers in a nut shell, especially 'deep thinkers' like yourself. It makes you stupid. Don't buy into the illusion You only think you're thinking deeper. Pot completely destroys your ability to accurately perceive your own self, and reality itself. You're actually just digging a deeper and deeper hole for yourself.
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>>134634527
Exactly, it's amplifying (((individualism))). Everyone wants to be famous, everyone wants to have a fucking video vlog. Unfortunately I speak from personal experience, it's why in my first post I said I feel like I'm living in a post apocalyptic sci-fi movie. I've already smoked out 10 extremely valuable years of my life 17-26.... and I'm extremely unhappy with how those years went, and many of the decisions I made. It wasn't all the pots fault, but it absolutely is a major part of the reason I didn't get my shit together.
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>>134634303
We're talking about weed you literal fucking moron. Every single solitary anti-depressant is designed to facilitate serotonin uptake. Dopamine is what's given to literal retarded people even more retarded than yourself. Like one step above literal vegetable. Dopamine is the most base level "happy chemical" of the brain. Dopamine < Serotonin < Endorphins < Oxytocin
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>>134625915
DUDE
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>>134634562
Are we seriously making a distinction between directly and indirectly affecting dopamine levels? Are you denying that weed has ANY effect on dopamine levels or dopamine reception, or just nitpicking my language? Saying dopamine is more basic and thus is not being interfaced with directly literally does not at any point contradict anything I've said
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>>134625915
You have it backwards, you statist bootlicker.
Police cause far more death and damage than weed, if you are not driving stoned you should be left alone, PERIOD.
I am not a millenial, I am in my mid-fifties and rarely smoke it, but do use cannabis extracts to control epilepsy.
The generic pharmaceutical drug I am prescribed costs $300 per month, and is not very effective. CBD oil shortens the duration, frequency, and recovery time of the seizures.
It is an important battle to fight because misinformed assholes like you want to take away the gains we've made in the states it's been legalized medically, so I have to fight your fucktarded ass.
You are conspiring to ruin my life just because you don't like hippies. Fuck you.
If you don't like it, don't do it. You do not have to be a dick. You choose to.
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>>134634960
I'm insisting that for anyone's dopamine levels to be genuinely suppressed they need to have literal brain damage. Dopamine is present in practically all animals.

My point is that you have no more authority to speak about dopamine than you do about heart risk or any other literal garbage youre slinging.
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>>134634828
Why do you assume you would make good decisions if you haven't smoke weed?
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>>134625915
It's in titmilk and it makes me horny
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>>134635148
http://www.nature.com/mp/journal/v22/n1/full/mp201621a.html
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>>134630287
Wholeheartedly agree. I'm also sick and fucking tired of drunks running around ruining my night strolls. We need to ban alcohol as well.
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>>134625915

>oldfag getting into someones life
stop obstructing
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>>134625915
I think booze should be illegal but here we are, wasting away brain cells with liquids and fluids
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>>134635328
Many many reasons, too many to list. It's not just smoking weed, it's the entire high school party scene. I would have either picked a better college, or done better at the school I went to (Berklee college of music). I'm a high caliber drummer, I could have been way more competitive if I didn't fuck off so much. I rubbed shoulders with some of the best in the world, and none of them smoke weed.
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>>134635423
You are so full of shit. Going back to your previous assertion that "they get dopamine from weed so why get it from life." You don't get fucking dopamine from "life" etc. Dopamine is literally life. It is present in fucking sponges. However you do literally get serotonin from life. Yes we produce it but it's uptake must literally be caused by life even if it's just eating. Maybe it's just a simple memory. Those of course can produce basically any chemical. However serotonin release must be triggered by something. Dopamine is still fucking active while we sleep.

As for your bullshit study
>durr cannabis

You are aware that there are two completely different species right?
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>>134633786
OK, gays are harmful so lets just let people fuck children instead of fixing the problem.
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>>134635874
This is when I know with certainty I'm dealing with a retard. As no neurochemicals interface directly with external stimuli, making a distinction between direct and indirect effect is pointless. Are you genuinely retarded? Also your odd statements about dopamine being "life" don't mean anything. Dopamine is a motivator of sorts, it's what gives people and animals any sort of agency, but I have no idea what "life" is supposed to be in this context. Also, there are at least 3 species of cannabis and not two, though that is another red herring with no relevance to the discussion
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>>134636114
You would have a point if we didn't already try prohibition.
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>>134636184
Indica vs Sativa is a red herring when discussing motivation? You have literally zero idea what youre talking about.

Oxytocin doesn't directly interface with external stimuli? Might wanna tell that to my penis.
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>>134630287

yes good goy, let your (((government))) tell you what naturally occurring plants you cannot have and what you can and can't do with your own body.

forget all about the tobacco we make billions off of that you're not allowed to grow! mustn't cut into our profits!
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>>134626476
This. Only potheads give a shit about it being legalised, considering you'd have to be a grade a moron to get prosecuted for use or supply.
The whole discussion is a waste of time, only degenerate retards care.
Plus it is incredibly clear that regular use ruins an individual and makes them useless.
>Regular alcohol use: can win WW2
>Regular weed use: can eat entire xxl pizza
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>>134626590
Cancer patients are clutching at straws, and weed pushers are trying to convince them thc is worth having when it's the CBD they actually need
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>>134636605
THC pills have been available to cancer patients in all 50 states for many decades.
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>>134636327
Do you even know what the phrase "directly interface" means? Is oxytocin secreted by your penis or is it secreted by some part of the female sex organ and absorbed by your penis? No? It's not directly interfacing. Just because high levels of oxytocin can give you a boner doesn't mean the oxytocin is literally holding up your dick. You'd think a nitpicker would have a better grasp on the finer points of things
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>>134628426
(((artists)))
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>>134636550
You tell him goy! Forget about the morals you were taught by your parents, religion, and teachers. Smoke ((((((weed))))), listen to ((((((rap))))), stop caring so much about everything! Leave all the number crunching, money making, and success to the ((((people in charge))))
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>>134625915
to relieve stress from globalisation, stress kills and weakens your immune system allowing cancer to spread
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>>134636669
So then what's your point? You're the one that brought it up. Youre in backpedal city. You're the one that brought up weeds effect on "dopamine"
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>>134628824
This guy gets it.
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>>134636327
>>134636669
Also bringing up different species is a red herring because the chemicals in question are the same, the only thing that differs is the quantity. In an argument about fundamental mechanisms in the brain, it's totally irrelevant . You've nicely derailed any discussion about smoking weed recreationally into an argument of technicalities about dopamine then tried to derail that into an argument about the two (poor ruderalis) different species of cannabis
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>>134636836
See how I use precise language when I mean something precisely? This is how normal people who aren't autistic talk. I say directly interface when I mean directly interface, I fail to do so when I don't mean it. It's really that simple Einstein
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>>134636980
You're just digging yourself deeper. Indica can have way higher thc content. Indica vs Sativa is at the heart of the entire debate. You have zero idea what youre talking about.
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>>134637110
>the entire debate
Which one?
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>>134637083
>refuses to answer
What a shock
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>>134637154
Would you just shut the fuck up?
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I don't think pot does negative things to you, it holds you back from doing great things. It doesn't subtract from your life, it keeps you from adding to it.
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weed is for faggots

>spending money to give yourself cancer

kill yourselves.

>but I can vape it!

popcorn lung.

literally get cancer and die.
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>>134637229
you get popcorn lung from e-cigs not vaping weed you retard
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The financial aspect alone is enough of a reason not to smoke it. Unless your parents are rich as fuck, and just shower you with money that you can use to buy infinite weed.

>t. the people I met at college
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>>134637184
You were the one that said dopamine is more basic, implying that weed didn't interface with dopamine, which it doesn't. It does affect dopamine down the line though, and I never said anything that contradicts that. You're the one who forced me to go on a tangent about the distinction between interfacing directly and simply effecting a change through intermediary mechanisms
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>>134626691
Yeah goy, It's the cops and muh government that benefit.
Surely not the corporate powers! Those are out greatest allies.
You people are just til fucking dumb.
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>>134637196
You just said the entire debate when we've debated several different things and the actual topic of this thread is somewhat nebulous. It was a genuine question and the fact you thought I was trolling you or something demonstrates you aren't actually taking this seriously. You might as well post some pro-weed image macros or something if you don't plan on having an honest discussion
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>>134626338
>Only degenerates smoke weed

God choose to appear as a burning thorn bush to Moses, my guess is he also appeared as mental burning Indica sometimes and everybody were tripping gold and worshiping golden statues too. God is misunderstood.
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>>134626754
>People who drink heavily, during the week or by themselves tend to have serious issues

Yeah my gf gets scary drunk. Never knew people could actually have a problem with drinking until I met her. She chugs beers, she will drink 4 by the first hour.
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>>134637708
Yeah it seems like the novelty of getting hammered goes away for most people by the time they're out of high school or college. Thanks for not calling me a retard by the way. I've started expecting that every time I get a (you) in this thread
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>>134636744

sure, why not let the government have more and more say into your autonomy, no harm there, no problems there, totally safe, nothing bad about that, nope, nobody in government will ever abuse that power, nope just relax and let big brother care for you, just listen to me and remember, its for your own safety!
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>>134637360

spending money on a temporary high is still retarded

and most people smoke j's, and lighting up anything = killing cilia/your lungs = cancer
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>>134626162
All drugs should be illegal
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>>134637708
yeah my old gf used to be like that, she would drink a half to a full bottle of wine 6 days a week in the evening, only after i realised she was a straight up alcoholic along with her mother
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>>134625915
>Is it really such an important battle to fight, being able to dull your senses and waste your time?
Because it isn't a particularly difficult battle to fight. All the facts are on the side of the smoker.
Yes there are risks, but those risks are for the user.
If you want to continue criminalizing weed then you are supporting the same nanny-state ideology that you are consistently complaining about.

>2 posts by this ID
OP fucked off, but for the other anons here sperging out over 'degeneracy' and all the rest of it, how do you feel knowing you cannot stop it from happening? Cannabis WILL be legal soon in most of the western world. Does this annoy you?
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>>134630252
whoa
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>>134629187
Yeeeeeeeeeeeah no.
Weed lowers iq? Keep drinking that vodka, It's really good for you. After all it's not like the kikes used alcohol both in russia and in the US to control the workers and destroy the political systems there.
Or that Europeans have used alcohol in every single New land they settled.
Alcohol is a weapon of control. It's legal because it dumb you down, ignore greater issues and makes you extremely complacient and impressionable by making you more emotional.
Stop smoking with low-iq niggers or watch kike movies about how white people act when smoking.
When you surround yourself with shit, all you see is shit.
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>>134625915
It's not about smoking weed but about not making possession of a few grams a crime. Prisons are for real criminals.
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>>134630287
>>>134626162
>It stinks.
>It's a waste of time.
>It gives you cancer.
>It's a gateway drug.
>People who smoke weed are more likely to be violent.
>People who smoke weed are more likely to commit crimes.
>It causes you to be a loser and a slacker.
>There is no reason to smoke weed, other than to be a fucking idiot. And idiots are not good for society.
>I could go on and on. So, yes, there is plenty of reason for it to be legal and no reason you need to smoke it.

I hope a frog appears in your throat and jumps out your mouth at a social dinner. I hope they find you hanging behind door number three on Chester Bennington's birthday. You're good for nothing but lies.
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>>134638336
Absolutes lead to the dark side.
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>>134638603
I think it temporarily lowers your IQ
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>>134634355
http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/01/05/marijuana-much-more-than-you-wanted-to-know/
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>>134638870
spotted the butthurt stoner
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>>134638870
Let's ban cigarettes because they stink.
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>>134629933
Stop getting your information from i drink vodka every day dot com
Alcohol historically before purity laws was mostly a vessel for other drugs like shrooms.
When the purity laws for beer came it made sure that hops was the only added ingredience. It made the Anglos mad, they loved their dark shroom beer.
Hops is a cousin of weed. They are so related you can cross-breed them.
That good feeling you get from small amount of beer is the hops. It is completely different from the alcohol intoxication that makes you act like a straight up nigger.
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Marijuana increases your sensitivity to chi. You can achieve the Kundalini faster and more methodically than people who don't consume it. This is going to backfire on the globalists hardcore because this neutralizes every one of their social and medical offenses.

Marijuana doesn't pull you along for the ride; a bum will always be a bum. But marijuana does move your emotional obstacles out of the way, buying you extra time in whatever you want to excel at. Your willpower determines your fate.
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The punishment doesn't fit the crime with weed. I don't really care about legalization beyond medical, but people shouldn't have to pay the exorbitant fines or actually do time for "personal" amounts... it's an overreach on the part of the state to allow that.
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>>134628844
Been caught 3 times and got 45 days in Harris County every time. I quit for 9 1/2 years cause that shit and I feel that decade was truly wasted.

t. Saivite
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>>134625915
Well it's mostly the fact that it's less or equally dangerous as alcohol, it just doesn't make sense that one should be illegal and the other one legal. The only reason it's illegal is bc some old stigma created over shitty drug politics. I think it should be legal but on the same terms as alcohol, for example that it's still illegal to drive while high etc.
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>>134629115
lol
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>>134639238
Lol I think 99% of us fap out our veerya even more when high
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>>134639001
>>134638336
Does this include tobacco and alcohol?
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>>134630399
interesting that you say Starbucks because caffeine consumption/desire does go down for a regular user of cannabis... most ppl don't realize this, so not only big pharma lobbying against but also big food who controls the caffeine drug trade.
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>>134625915
George Soros funds weed legalization. That's why.
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>>134629187
citation needed... substantially lowers IQ, isn't is commonly known that like 75% of silicon valley uses Cannabis?
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>>134630287
My gf thinks it stinks; you're as dumb as my gf.
I think its the best of time!
It cures certain forms of cancer.
All drugs can be called gateway drugs.
LMAO WTF?
wut
feelsgoodman
u mad?
You should try it.
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>>134626555
Cats literally don't have the necessary receptors to get anything out of weed, though.
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>>134630403
hahaha around 8 points... (((they))) can do tests for IQ but still not efficient testing done to confirm medical value. for all the fucking bullshit propaganda /pol/ sees through it's amazing how stupid they are when it comes to cannabis. we should phrase it in terms that would be easier for some people to grasp... if the USA was a 100% white ethnostate, how would you feel about cannabis consumption then? and cannabis talks on here when it comes to usage should be about edibles/non smoking by default.
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>>134641179
It has been shown before that SMOKING(in any form) of ANY substance(weed included) inhibits mental growth around the 16-20 bracket where the time for brain maturity is reached.

So yes being a stoner at a young age can in fact make you a stoner loser at an older age if you are a frequent smoker/drinker during that roughly estimated age bracket. It isn't rocket science it's basic human biology.
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>>134625915
holy shit all these fucking reddit fags advocating for weed and comparing it to alcohol
god i wanna kill you limpwristed faggots
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>>134638472
why not on the 7th day
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>>134641770
It is very comparable to alcohol.
In fact it is very much less damaging than alcohol.
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>>134641063
That's what I'm saying and I bet they fucking know it. There is no better way to alleviate discomfort associated with waking up than with weed. It's so effective that even the shit that makes you go to sleep Indica is still completely effective. However that brings a crash which caffeine is critical to alleviate. So if theyre smart they'll put all their money in Indica and try to restrict Sativa.
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>>134633182
> kills your soul
>kills your soul
>weed kills your soul
what
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>>134625915
>Why is it SO FUCKING IMPORTANT to millennials that they be allowed to smoke weed?
Because weed is a plant that turns white people into niggers.
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>>134625915
Because its a more natural painkiller than big-pharma manufactured opiates, which is way more kiked than growing your own herb.
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>>134641770
>alcohol is legal
>it's addictive, so much so cutting it cold turkey can kill you
>there's constant stream of news of drunk drivers crashing killing themselves/others/destroying infrastructure
>it's highly flammable
>when it was illegal the US poisoned legal at the time alcohol supplies and stupid people drank poisoned alcohol killing themselves
>during prohibition crime syndicates big and small smuggled it using it as a major source of income diluting/cutting it for additional volume and income

Whereas weed is mostly harmless causing anxiety/panic attacks from first timers using too powerful a strain to the worst case scenario of triggering latent schizophrenia in most likely predisposed schizophrenics.

The only reason why weed is illegal across the world is because of us and our foolish drug war, hemp based products were much cheaper than traditional paper products and if not for paper lobbying for it into prohibition it would likely be legal across the world.

So yes it should be legalized simply for the fact that criminal organizations use it for their income and instead let it be sold like alcohol boosting tax revenue as well as reduce death from fentanyl laced weed because god knows we need the extra misery of trusting shitty retarded drug dealers cutting product with dangerous ingredients where people will continue to get acquire it regardless of whether its legal or illegal.

Everything should be legalized so at least there can be a god damned standard or quality for a product.
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>>134625915
some like to drink, some like to puff

what's the big deal?

BTW: fuck millennials. worst gen ever
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>>134627532
worst argument ever. i guess god put poison here for you to ingest?
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its mostly harmless
>skitso
>criminal offence
>panic attacks
wow youre completely right lets go get high guys
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>>134638870
truth hurts, don't it.

>>134639134
fine by me, they are degenerate and cause people to litter (just visit any eurotrash country, you'll see what i mean).
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why dont you stop wasting political capital on a losing battle and just have a republican legalize weed, that way you can secure their votes. I swear you moral crusaders are so stupid it's actually quite stunning. your shitposting is degeneracy, kys
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>>134625915
Bread and circuses. I personally believe all drugs should be legalized but clearly the people who are single issue weed voters are retarded
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>>134625915
I am of two minds about weed. It should be legal because muh freedom. However, it does retard productivity, motivation, and drive. Most regular smokers do not believe they are hopelessly addicted. Most cannot stop. If they do they get serious anxiety and panic attacks. However, I have to children, one Millennial and one gen Zyklon. Both are based as fuck. Given the number of degenerate pot heads, I can only see this benefiting my children as they will have less competition.
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>>134626162
the mind of the white man needs to remain pure, do not let the jews destroy our superior intellect with niggerherbs
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>>134625915
Weed is like alcohol, but better because people dont become violent.
As a security worker, if I could replace alcohol in the bars ive worked with pot I would in a jeart beat just because of how much easier the job would be.
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>>134629917
>2 weed smokers I know are dumb
Nice anecdotal evidence, pal.
>>
becuase libtards will fight for anything they see
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>>134625915
Imagine how much of this retarded leftist backlash could be prevented if they were all stoned off their asses?

Weed is an interesting narcotic, as everyone I know who abuses it seems to be "locked in time." They have no aspirations, no drive to do anything, no willpower to progress in their jobs, no motivation.

Sounds like the perfect way to placate this shitstorm.
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>>134625915
>Is it really such an important battle to fight, being able to dull your senses and waste your time?

telling someone what they can or cannot do with their body is slavery

they can't do what they want because their body is not their own

fuck slavery
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>>134629917
>2 weed smokers at my work are both dumb as fuck.

What's it like working at McDonalds?
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>>134625915

All I know is people swear it's not addictive but can't seem to live without it.
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>>134625915
weed leads to laziness in the workplace, it should stay banned
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Well, I have to forget we are being genocided.
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>>134648127
fuck off moron
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>>134648280
cite?
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>>134648410
kek
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>>134648103
>They have no aspirations, no drive to do anything, no willpower to progress in their jobs, no motivation.

funny that sounds just like Billy Clinton and Barack Obama

never believed what they said about Jimmy Carter

but George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were based, Tom Jefferson bought John Adams's slave daughter to have as a fuck toy, these guys would beat their slaves to death for fun, also the head doctors of the day recommended killing slaves to help with PTSD
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>>134648480

ok slave master, seriously where do you get off telling someone else what to do with themselves, are you the king of england or something? next thing you'll want to earn a % on the GDP of the nation

what if niggers wanted to drink paint nonstop which would render more than half of them killed off in 5 years, I guess you'd want to stop that as well because how dare they decrease your wealth by killing themselves
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If you're over the age of 25, and still havent got out of your pot phase, youre wasting alot of time and money. Smoked weed about a year ago, previous to that it had been several years and couldn't figure out why I smoked for so long. I watched this video about 5 times then realized how shallow and retarded smoking pot was.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A52--FKUQgU

Im with op, why are people so obsessed with legalizing something that at best makes you dumb and unproductive and at worst dictates everything about your life and makes you a broke, useless slug of a human.
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>>134625915

if people want to smoke weed then they should be able to.

if people want to drink alcohol then they should be able to

if people want to smoke cigarettes then they should be able to

people should be allowed to take shrooms / lsd if they want to

if they are not bothering anyone else then why should anyone have a problem with this? doesn't make any sense.
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>>134648607
>PTSD not common until WWI and later conflicts
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>>134625915
Weed is nice. Don't you drink sometimes?
Or are you gray & dull & boring af?
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>>134648769
>at best makes you dumb and unproductive

just like George Washington and Bill Clinton
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>>134628426
>weed and their art.
'cept most pot heads will never accomplish anything. Yes, a very intelligent, creative, self-disciplined, and driven person might still be able to accomplish a great deal. They may even get some benefit from pot. However, this is not most people. Most pot heads are not genius tier creators expanding their minds. Most pot heads, the vast majority, will accomplish very little in life.
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>>134631366
I guess it depends on the type of person you are.

I found that weed helped me a lot when studying engineering and math. It helps me to grasp these abstract concepts faster and more intuitively.

I guess what I am trying to say is, if you're a lazy fuck before smoking you'll be a lazy fuck after.
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>>134648831

yeah because having a twitch from watching your pals heads explode wasn't a thing until WWI, they came up with that name in WWI, being a little fucked up from chopping human beings into hamburger has always existed
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>>134648922
Stop bullshitting you cuck
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>>134648952
no medical diagnosis (as you claim) until WWI you fucking cunt
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>>134630586
It's legal here and most of it is controlled by organized crime.

I had an ex that worked for a smart shop and half the sellers sold illegal drugs on the side to the clients they met through the legal shop.

The owner knew and got a percentage.
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Pot causes anxiety and psychotic breakdowns.
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>>134649101
>(((((medical diagnosis)))))

yes so things affected humans differently after the diagnosis came along
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>>134641314
This is what happens when you smoke weed. You become a barely literate ancap.

Talk to your child before he does weed or he might become an ancap.

>Captcha helicopter
Good idea.
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>>134649350
>yes so things affected humans differently after the diagnosis came along
What kind of argument are you having? did i ever say that?
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>>134634527
>weed makes you over think thing
This is the most annoying thing about pot heads. They think every idea that wafts through their head is brilliant and will give you 10 solid pages on the actually meaning of french fries. Weed is the most narcissistic drug. It makes the use believe they are way more clever, creative, and productive than they really are.
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>>134649086
You ever tried writting verilog code while high?

You're probably just some drunken hobo who never in life been in contact with anything other than alcohol and tobacco.
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>>134650124
It just makes you think about things in a different way...

You cant solve problems by just looking at them from one perspective (think physics or math).
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>>134650500
>smoke weed
>think about problems in different way
>go back to playing vidya
>problem remains
But I thought about it in a different way!
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>>134651092
I guess someone fliping burgers whole day wouldnt really require problem solving skills.
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