Is there anything on the planet more pathetic than a MGTOW?

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>Why is there such an increase in these scum?
No goy! Don't ask this question goy just play your video games and watch your porn. Reproduction is only for the chosen tribes.

>>134610128
>Is there anything on the planet more pathetic than a MGTOW?
Single women in their 30's committing suicide because they "couldn't find a good man".

>>134610128
Have fun in the divorce, all white women crave the BBC get over it!

>>134610128
Dunno. I agree with them on a lot of points except for the whole

>Just live your life and have fun!!!!!111!!! Like you don't need no woman

Fucking retarded

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>>134610377
this nigga got the really bananas activated

>>134610497
I don't think it's retarded in the regard that you should live your life and do what's good for you without letting women/pussy control your life and your decisions

An unmarried man is a boy. You aren't truly a grown man until you've married a woman. Women are the only thing that truly completes men. A man without a woman is a small scared child, nothing more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uA742on42LM

>>134610128
MGTOW: When you voluntarily put an end to a billions of years of reproductive lineage because you like porno and zelda and a girl was mean to you one time

Just as pathetic: men with 2 children or fewer.

>>134610546
How is promoting white families and white children a Jewish scheme?

>>134610689
my football teammate is from Ghana, you're a boy if you just have one wife.

That's how it was for most of your lineage.

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>>134610764
>Is there anything on the planet more pathetic than a MGTOW?

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MGTOWS aren't fat ugly fedora permavirgin neckbeards who can't get women. They are guys who HAVE experienced modern western women.

I can tell from your post you are YOUNG and will unfortunately learn the hard way, but you will learn the lesson, guaranteed.

>>134610611
>without letting women/pussy control your life and your decisions

I get that, trust me I really do. It boils down to being smart with how you interact with women. Once you recognize the pettiness of most women you've basically solved the problem in your own life. It's really your fault if you let a bitch walk all over you anyway. That doesn't mean you can't find a woman and have a healthy relationship/marriage and actually raise a family. Family is by far the most important thing in life, and to discard the prospect because "oh somebody got screwed in a divorce" puts you on the same level ass whiney hambeasts.

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In EVERY MGTOW thread you get the same discourse:

1) Inexperienced but horny kiddos think every guy just want to fuck anything that moves and the entirety of social interaction revolves around fucking and MGTOWs are fat autistic virgin neckbeards who can't get laid.

2) Actual MGTOWs who are experienced grown men who are warning about the dangers of women + the state vs you, and how you can be easily taken for all you've got.

3) The "Yes, thats right goy - dont reproduce" jew shills - yes JEW SHILLS. The thing (((they))) want you to do is YES reproduce children to a raving tinder psycho / bar slut who will NEVER grow up and you will be raising her as well as your kids until she bails on you and takes half your shit after dragging you through divorce court.

The jew agenda is NOT to stop whites reproducing, its to produce a WEAKER generation with poor parents so the state can become the new parents. No reproduction means no goy-cows for milking. Why the fuck would (((they))) not want a new generation of tax-slaves? (((They))) own the banking system AND the law courts / judicial process.

(((The agenda))) is all about making money from broken individuals from broken families - NOT stopping reproducing.

MGTOW is redpilled because its men refusing to get fucked over by the jew system - and (((they))) are worried. (((They))) are worried that (((they))) have pushed the feminist "high maintainance woman" meme too far and thought men would become pussyfied slaves to nagging bitches and never thought men would just go their own way.

>>134611355
>reproduce children to a raving tinder psycho / bar slut
If you do this you're retarded. Don't marry a bar slut then it's that simple.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPFdRdlNBHE

>>134610128
>Literally didn't exist until (((feminism))) came along
>Increase corresponds perfectly with the increase in (((feminism)))

Sure is a mystery to me too.

> Is there anything on the planet more pathetic than a MGTOW?

I'm a 28 year old virgin. I can't say I'm a mgtow because I've never had a girlfriend.

So I'm something on the planet that's more pathetic.

>>134612201
No amount of feminism justifies going MGTOW.

>>134610128
Maybe I don't want a wife and children? I simply will not risk divorce and I don't like kids at all, I don't think I would be a good father and relationships haven't worked out for me. So fuck you nigger I'll do what I want. I don't need a wife and kids just because tradcucks who don't want to admit that it will most likely end up with a divorce and ruin my life.

This isn't the 50's and I won't live under the same standards and expectations of then. I'm doing whats best for my own life

>>134612340
>Maybe I don't want a wife and children?
Then you will die having accomplished NOTHING in your life, seeing as passing down your genes is the only thing that truly matters in the end.

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>>134611635
Going out and dating apps are the top way people meet these days.

Women are also largely influenced by TV and (((popular culture))), and you will never be more influential than that.

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>>134610128
>Is there anything on the planet more pathetic than a /pol/?
>Instead of improving their own lives and getting a white wife and creating white children they instead blame all their shortcomings on white women, jews, blacks, muslims and hate them for few legit but mostly stupid fucking reasons.
>Why is /pol/ infested with such underage, faggot and hillbilly scum?
I could ask you the same, OP.

>>134611355
>>134611635 This!

Those older MGTOWs are only mad because they were retarded and chose the wrong woman, and so they blame ALL women. Just choose the right one, it's really not that hard to understand. Fucking pathetic.

>>134612527
source?

Modern woman:
>complain about everything (why don't you make more money, why don't we go on vacations, why don't we go out to eat more, etc, etc, etc)
>have bi polar mood swings where she will ignore you like an ice queen for days on end
>always looking for someone better
>most have literally no fucking hobbies other than restaurants or travelling (no real interest in movies, tv shows, books, politics, news. And if they do, no real critical analysis to have a conversation about)
>taking pictures of fucking everything they do

Fuck that shit. I was born in the wrong era. If I could go back in time I would ask out a qt in 1986.

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>>134610128
I wouldn't mind being a single dad. I work from home so it would be easy. Modern women are psychos.

>>134612667
Revese search it, fagotto.

>>134612456
>Then you will die having accomplished NOTHING in your life, seeing as passing down your genes is the only thing that truly matters in the end.
>passing down your genes is the only thing that matters in the end

Guess what faggot this isn't true at all and I'll be fucking dead, what will I care? As long as I'm alive I'm focusing on bettering myself and not slaving away for a wife and kids and risking losing everything to some whore.

I think I would rather live a good life where I feel satisfied in what I've done for myself instead of having kids to say I "saved the white race" or to tell myself that I passed down genetics. There are billions of people in this world, me not passing down my genes doesn't mean shit

>>134610689
please continue to convince us why we should be as miserable as you. In fact, I havent even heard of a marriage going the gauntlet in the past 15 year. Who actually marries till death? Nobody, men are all moral-less dogs and women whores. Such is life.

>>134612751
>I'll be fucking dead, what will I care?
You will be, I'll be alive inside my kids, and my grandkids, and so forth. You are mentally ill for not wanting to pass on your genes.

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>>134611355
thank you based bong, we can defeat the jew by taking away his most productive tax slaves

>>134612890
Even Jesus is laughing at you.

>>134612615
care to give us the holy perfect criteria for a non whore there, professor?

>>134612890
>You will be, I'll be alive inside my kids, and my grandkids, and so forth.

So instead of working on yourself you will work for other people your whole life but that will satisfy you because you'll be remembered for raising kids? Just like millions of other men before you?

Sounds like you have pretty bland desires and by the way man, those kids will hurt you at one point, and not all kids turn out well

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>>134612615
Young women are getting worse in line with the (((popular culture))).

I also include experiences such as how my mum treated my dad when I was a child and how my sister treated me growing up.

They were and are both crazy in retrospect. I thought I was the problem at the time but they both have the standard behaviours described by most guys regarding crazy women.

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Lets be real, mgtow is and was always intended tobe temporary. Its a fuckyou to feminists who like to preach about how independant they are.

Think of it this way. If every sensible man goes mgtow until he is 35, then re-enters the dating scene, he can do allthe traditional guy stuff without dealing with a bunch of nonsense through his twenties (instead focusing on career/self improvement). Plus it really shows how hypocritical feminists are when they start to screech about how much they hate mgtow.

>>134612751
Hey man that's fine if you don't want to have kids.

That's all it is. Stop trying to wave the banner of some gay movement around to give it legitimacy.

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>>134612502
If you were truly immune to shame wouldn't you rape?

Same shit, different day.

>>134613090
>those kids will hurt you at one point

Man I always get the impression mgtow fags are basically like doom and gloom conspiracy theorists. I really could take you a bit more seriously if you fags would just say "Yeah I don't want to bother with kids."

But no, you act like massive fucking fags and pretend like you're doing more than you actually are. You're just jacking off in front of the computer. I know that, you know that so stop being obtuse and shaming people that actually want to have a fulfilling life.

>>134613148
I'm not part of any sort of movement my friend. I've never tried to convince anyone to live the same way. I just get bothered when retards on here act like every mans endgame must be marriage when there are tons of cons to marriage and it's nothing like it was 60 years ago

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>>134613148
MGTOWs may want children.

They just dont want an unstable psycho to have automatic custody over the child.

>>134611217
>That doesn't mean you can't find a woman and have a healthy relationship/marriage and actually raise a family.
It's not impossible, but you've got to be living under a rock if you don't think it's a bit more difficult to do in [currentyear]

>>134613340
absolutely not!
fucking isn't my sole priority.
Bettering myself is.

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>>134610128
>Having kids in 2017

What a loser,it will ruin your life,just fuck prostitutes or have a sex doll

>>134613361
>shaming people that actually want to have a fulfilling life.

Holy shit could your post get more ironic? OP's fucking entire post is shaming people who live a different life than him, people who want to live a more fulfilling life so they aren't getting married.

The irony in your post is laughable. You argue like an SJW against something you don't understand because you disagree with it. Once again faggot, it's you guys who are against this that are unbelievably naive

>>134613446
>I just get bothered when retards on here act like every mans endgame must be marriage
It really should be, but that's not really the point I'm trying to make. I fully agree with many of the points "mgtow" dudes have to say. Men get fucked in marriage routinely, and it's sad. Women don't know their place in there and plug their fingers in their ear, close their eyes and shout "LALALALALAL CAN'T HEAR YOU" when faced with reality.

Just don't marry a turbocunt.

>>134613515
>but you've got to be living under a rock if you don't think it's a bit more difficult to do in
Of course it is, I'm not pretending it's not.

>>134613686
>hurrdurr you don't like understand your post so ironic
Don't be a moron anon. I understand where you're coming from, and I'm not even saying you NEED to have kids. I just don't agree with outright excluding the prospect of having them. I can disagree with something without you taking it personal, right? You fucking cocksucker.

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>>134610128
3DPD detected

>>134613722
>It really should be, but that's not really the point I'm trying to make
This is where we fundamentally disagree and there is not point in arguing this.

>Just don't marry a turbocunt.
See this the the problem. All women have the same behaviors and tendencies that can ruin your life, every last one of them can be unstable and dangerous. Sure ideally you want to marry one that you can trust, but 10, 15 years after your marriage do you think she will be the same woman and you will feel the same way about each other? I will absolutely never marry, it's far too risky, and nowadays I don't trust that someone I would marry will actually want to stay together forever. It's just unrealistic and you're playing with fire doing it.

>>134613974
>I just don't agree with outright excluding the prospect of having them

People on this website romanticize the idea of having kids because Western societies need better white birthrates. The problem is though, we aren't going to change that on our own.

I just don't want kids because I don't ever want to be a father. This is something I've thought through for a long time and I simply could never imagine myself as someone who could maintain a family. I don't enjoy relationships and I don't want to work to support people, simple as that. Being a father is a job and not one I think I would be good at, so I have decided to opt out. I doubt I'll change my mind in the future. I plan on never entering a relationship again.

>>134612890
You're so narrow minded. You believe you are your DNA. Lmao do you also think you're the chair you're sitting on? Do you have any siblings or cousins? Well guess what, dummy? Fragments of your precious DNA are inside them as well. There is much more to life than reproduction.

>>134610128
THE MOST important half of mgtow is improving yourself you fucking idiot.

the other half is learning why men AND WOMEN act the way they well coming to the conclusion that it's safer to not play Russian roulette.

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>>134614082
Women have really been forced into situations they shouldn't be in. The women in the workforce and sexual liberation movements have crippled western civilization to the point where recovery is unlikely. They have princess syndrome, but they also want to be "strong and independent."

There are good women out there, and those are the one that actually deserve good men. Sure things can change a decade later, but people don't really change that much. It may be a risky proposition, but it is definitely worth the rewards if successful.

>>134610128
>it's another "i'm a 30 year old bitter worn out cunt, why won't betas look after me" thread
Fuck off, roastie.

>>134610377
>>134610555
YOU JUST ICED ROASTIES WITH A HIGHLY CINEMATIC GET

>>134610128
High divorce rates, courts favoring women in divorce cases.

>>134610377
completely and utterly BTFO.
No roastie will ever recover

>>134614456
>The problem is though, we aren't going to change that on our own.
Change has to start somewhere. I'd rather be spending time with my kids camping in my 30's rather than going out and trying to get laid from some dirty cunt.

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>>134610128
Loving you
Isn't the right thing to do
How can I ever change things that I feel?

If I could
Baby I'd give you my world
How can I
When you won't take it from me?

You can go your own way
Go your own way
You can call it another lonely day
You can go your own way
Go your own way

Tell me why
Everything turned around
Packing up
Shacking up's all you wanna do

If I could
Baby I'd give you my world
Open up
Everything's waiting for you

You can go your own way
Go your own way
You can call it another lonely day
You can go your own way
Go your own way

>>134614711
>Women have really been forced into situations they shouldn't be in. The women in the workforce and sexual liberation movements have crippled western civilization to the point where recovery is unlikely. They have princess syndrome, but they also want to be "strong and independent."
They're dumb enough to follow the movements that continue to 'liberate' them, and because of that I can't feel bad for them for the current situation they're in. You reap what you sow
>There are good women out there, and those are the one that actually deserve good men.
They are much to few and far between to spend my whole life looking for them, and even then I can't trust them to lose their interest in me 10 years down the line after marriage and use the system to steal my children and take money from me. Women are much more evil than you may think, and I don't trust even a single one of them. Men who don't realize this are in for a hell of a ride, women are the enemy
>definitely worth the rewards if successful.
What the fuck are the rewards? The rewards only exist if you want to build a family, if that doesn't appeal to you there are no rewards

>>134610128
At it's core it's just a rejection of the idea that a man should base his value on female approval. Not just in terms of relationship status (although that's probably the biggest trap). This actually makes you ironically MORE successfup in relationships because you come accross as less deaperate.

The only issue I find with it is the slippery slope. The less women you have in your life the less likely you are to have bullshiy ideas about them disproven by real world examples and experience. So it's prone to radicalizing and becoming political lesbianism for guys.

Wings of Icarus type situation.

>>134615266
>women are the enemy
Oh wow. Way to encapsulate your sad little movement in one single line. You disgust me. People like you should be rounded up and put in camps.

>>134615106
The do what you want, be that change you believe in. If you want kids enjoy it I suppose, just understand the risks and even if you don't get married it doesn't mean that you need to make getting laid some ambition or a priority in your 30's, getting laid really doesn't better you at all, it may make you more confident but ultimately it brings nothing of value to your life except temporary pleasure, in the same way eating a burger or drinking beer brings you temporary euphoria

>>134613122
I agree mgtow is mostly temporary.mgtow has always been around its just never had a name as so few man willingly choose it.

>>134615453
You're young and naive and I hope one day you'll see just how horrid women actually are. Most men have to be taught the hard way. I'm not part of any movement, I just absolutely fucking despise women from my own experience with them. They're irrational, manipulative, scheming, and evil. They should be the ones rounded up in fucking camps

>>134615266
Women aren't the enemy, they're just women. It's really men's fault for enabling them to get the way they are now.

So I had an Uncle, he was sterile since he had childhood leukemia. He had gotten married and my mom said she was actually a pretty good woman. She ended up catching schizophrenia and got put into the mental institution where she died. He lived to about 70 and never remarried, but he lived such a sad life man. Dude was a hardcore alcoholic, I'm talking like a handle of vodka a day. He had tons of money though, but lived alone. It was painful to see a man like that.

>>134612890
You will be forgotten in a generation or 2. How many here actually knows their grandparents or their great grandparents personally outside of their names and faces?

>>134615490
>it brings nothing of value to your life except temporary pleasure
I wholeheartedly agree, but people get lonely. We're not a solitary species.

>>134615616
>They should be the ones rounded up in fucking camps
This is why I have such a negative opinion of MGTOW. I recognize women for what they are, and I'm not going to get used like a wet towel, but I don't hate women. I hate niggers though.

>>134615779
>Women aren't the enemy, they're just women. It's really men's fault for enabling them to get the way they are now.
>they're just women
They're behavior makes any hatred for them very much justified

Sounds like to me your uncle wasn't willingly alone though. His wife went insane and he was probably someone who wanted a wife and kids. I'm not going to turn out that way because I would prefer to be alone. It was sad to see your uncle like that because he didn't ask for or desire his situation

>>134616112
>I would prefer to be alone
If you say so.

>>134613040
Pick a woman that's sincere and kind instead of some meme whore based on your autistic criteria of what a woman should be.

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>>134615186

Step over this way, my man

>>134616040
>This is why I have such a negative opinion of MGTOW. I recognize women for what they are, and I'm not going to get used like a wet towel, but I don't hate women. I hate niggers though.

Women are just like niggers. They're both just enormous factors in the downfall of our civilization. They're both arrogant and have massive inferiority complexes, they're both the foot soldiers for cultural marxism. I hate them, I hate every last one of them.

>>134616040
I think that was a hyperbole. What he really meant was that women should be put in their place back hardcore. No more sycophantic simpering shit in the media, where womyn are stronk and independent, it's either patriarchy or get the fuck out back to the streets.

>>134610128
Divorce laws basically give women all the power in the family and remove any incentive to compromise. The power eventually corrupts even good women. I'm going through a divorce right now but luckily our daughter is 16 and is adamant that she wants to live with me. This fact may keep me from being raped.

>>134610128
I'm a GTDHAGRNBWO bro. It's the new thing in town. Guys that don't have a girlfriend right now but want one.

>>134616558
Good luck man and you're 100% right that modern divorce laws corrupts even the best women. None of them should be trusted. I hope you end up winning and get custody of your daughter

>>134616558
How much do you have to give over to the cunt?

>>134616416
>They're both just enormous factors in the downfall of our civilization.
They also helped build civilization by having kids. Giving birth used to be a huge risk to the woman back in the day with all kinds of dangerous medical complications. Running a household while the men are at work isn't easy either. We need women to have a civilization. Women, unlike niggers, legitimately just don't know any better. They've been force fed their whole lives this lie about how they need to be independent and have a career, and being women, they do their damnedest to try to comply with the expectations society has set for them. They use their bodies to advance their careers, it's just awful. Fortunately there are still many out there that come from good families and had fathers that taught them better. Niggers are just violent monkeys with no place in society.

>>134616673
At 16 the court basically goes with what the kid wants so should be ok. Will probably lose my ability to ever retire though. But at least without crippling monthly payments I can live in the here and now.

Been thinking about doing an AMA sometime if people are interested. I'm 52 and I think could offer some good insight to the younger men here. Also a 5'7" manlet so have insight adjusting to that as well.

>>134616752
Don't know yet just getting started. File on Monday. Will definitely lose half my retirement but will be able to play child support vs spousal support so hopefully that part will be a wash.

>>134616831
It was the industrial revolution that changed everything. It removed women from the material economy and made them nothing but consumers. Everything they used to make was them purchased with her husband' wages.

>>134617085
If your daughter is living with you, you don't need to pay child support. Assuming you don't have other kids that is.

>>134616831
The reason I don't feel bad for them is because almost none of them are smart enough to see through the lies they've been fed. If we make the case to them to bring back traditional values where they don't need to be independent and they can instead go back to being housewives and depending on men they will just cry misogyny. They're all idiots and weak-minded. Yeah of course we need them for kids but I still hate pretty much everything else about them other than they're one necessary function.

We will never be able to get women to agree to returning to traditional and sane gender roles because the fucking cunts are half the reason we have these disastrous current values we have today.

>>134617085
>child support
What? The daughter's 16, what for?
>child support
WHAT? Tell me she's been working the past few years.
See, this is why I vehemently hate tradcucks and dumb cunts who come here proselytizing their stupid shit without ever giving people you a chance to speak.
Fuck marriage for real man.

>>134617274
>child support
*spouse support

>>134616987
Well good luck man, you should do an AMA at some point. Guys on here really romanticize the ideas of marriage and kids and you need to give them a hard redpill on the realities of this shit.

>>134610128
>Is there anything on the planet more pathetic than a MGTOW?
incels

>>134610128
Why don't MGTOW just do what they gotta do to live their lives instead of blogging about it like a fucking woman. I swear it's like a men's version of feminism

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no MGTOW reject paying for dates and just wana fuck for free
no relationship
no kids
no marry
leave that to losers

:)

>>134617313
She's worked through the entire marriage. I live in NY and spousal support is s guideline like child support. They just look st income and take s percentage. So wife would owe me child support, I'd owe her spousal and they'd cancel each other out.

>>134617210
>made them nothing but consumers. Everything they used to make was them purchased with her husband' wages
Perhaps if they were affluent enough to hire maids and such, but your average women had to still wash clothes, change daipers, clean the house, cook dinner, clean the dishes, take the kids to school or even homeschool them herself. Sure it might not be as difficult as digging in coal mines, or moving boxes for 12 hours a day, but it wasn't exactly a luxurious lifestyle and it was also a very important role in society.

>>134617369
>it's another "shut up and be quiet about reasonable ideas, you fuck" episode
Why do alt lite? Why do alt right? Why do sceptics, libtards, nationalists do that? Because that's people do about their ideas, you fucking moron, they share them.

>>134617496
I was a stay st home parent fir a year when she was 5. It's the easiest most relaxing job there is.

>>134617496
Also it made them dependent rather than interdependent.

>>134617246
The thing is they are dependent still. They're dependent on the state. The better case to be made would be to demonstrate that being provided for by her husband is a far better solution than looking to the state.

>>134617613
>It's the easiest most relaxing job there is.
Of course it is, it's still a job nonetheless.

>>134617369
We are, you fucking dolt - we don't preach the MGTOW philosophy to every fucking person we come across and call them morons if they don't comply. We have our own communities and we mostly keep to ourselves.

Problem is, people come to OUR communities and bitch about what WE post in them. We are going our own way, you idiots just choose to follow us and bitch about the fact that we didn't take the same path as you. Just leave us alone and get a hobby or something, Jesus Christ.

>>134610128
>Is there anything on the planet more pathetic than a MGTOW?
Incels are as pathetic as they are.

>Instead of improving their own lives and getting a wife and children they instead blame all their shortcomings on women and hate them for no reason.
Yeah, there's a difference between despising feminism (identity politics and all) and hating women.

>Why is there such an increase in these scum?
People are giving up. Also, there are plenty of distractions nowadays.

>>134610128
sort of. If you just went your own way and wrekt shit in your field like based Tesla without complaining about anything thats fine.

but for some reason MGTOW feel the need to decree to the world that the grapes are sour and that they will never ever need them so in that regard it is pussy shit

>>134613122
That's what I'm considering right now. Work, study, get higher wage and provide a better life for my future family, while staying political active and informed.

The shitposting left and right makes it hard, though

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>>134610128
Tanning salons. Literally WE WUZ NIGGERS n Shiettt, lazy ugly ass white women shooting themselves up with Ultraviolet radiation to look like niggers without going out side.

>>134610128
The chances of your first marriage ending before your ten year anniversary are absurdly high.
http://www.statisticbrain.com/marriage-statistics/

>>134618091
unattractive. I wanna fuck white chicks and no wannabe chimps. kek

>>134617342
>>134617988
Incel here.Why? it's not like i chose this path. I wanted a woman but i failed in that. For me more pathetic are those virgins who pretend to be volcels when they are actually are incels

>>134617743
They don't think they're dependent on the state though, they think they're independent and that they're only getting more liberated when in reality they are just getting more dependent on the state

Either way, shit won't get better. It's a lost cause at this point and it will only get uglier, I'm guaranteeing this. It's sad but it's the truth. You can do what you want, but I'm taking the blackpill on this one and denying marriage to protect myself. Good night, I'm going to sleep

>>134616558
Good luck

>>134618343
>Good night, I'm going to sleep
Alright man take care.

>>134618311
The fact that you tried and failed makes you more pathetic than someone who doesn't try at all. It means you have no potential

>>134610494
>t. Nigger Shitstain

>>134616987
>Been thinking about doing an AMA sometime if people are interested

+1

>>134610128
Muh white genicide, and MGTOW is
a little counter productive. Oh well.

>>134618091
protip the tan hides the wrinkles

now u know
and knowing is half the battle

>>134618443
>>134618311
If I may make a correction, it's the fact that he thinks he failed that makes him pathetic. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Now, would you rather mope or get out there and get your game on with the next girl?

>>134618443
>It means you have no potential
and is that my fault?
Keep in mind that your son could be incel. I don't think a good father should say him pathetic for that.

>>134610128

I spend a lot of time improving my own life instead of trying to impress women (and having them set my self-improvement goals).

>>134610377
HAHAAHAHAH

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When is someone obligated to cohort with another person?
Are you morally obligated to try and find people you like to associate with in life?

>>134618684
Don't pay attention to the neckbeard. He'd rather talk for years about something, then actually doing shit in his life. He will probably an hero anyway at some point -> self-solving problem.

Sites like this that have tons of threads daily perpetuating the idea that for some reason equality is a bad thing.

>>134618684
>Keep in mind that your son could be incel. I don't think a good father should say him pathetic for that.
Incels are pathetic regardless of who they are.

I've ignored light for so long the window out of my peripheral vision looks like its sunny out.

It's not.

That's how long I've been staring at my monitor.

>>134618942
What is "equality"? Can you even define it?

>>134618942
>>134619002
pls answer

>>134619002
Equal rights before the law and equal opportunity regardless of parental or societal standing.

>>134618637
>Now, would you rather mope or get out there and get your game on with the next girl?
How many times do i need to do that? get rejected 7 times is very pathetic for me. I prefer just walk away of the broken game and keep some dignity.

>>134610377
roasties eternally btfo

>>134610128
Have fun supporting women while I fuck your wife.

MGTOW for life.

>>134619095
7?!

Try a thousand, then we'll talk.

>>134610689
t.christcuck

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>>134612890
>I'll be alive inside my kids, and my grandkids, and so forth. You are mentally ill for not wanting to pass on your genes.
>i'll be inside my kids, passing on my genes
hmmm...

>>134618072
>but for some reason MGTOW feel the need to decree to the world

Don't listen to the MGTOW youtubers and shit, anyone who proudly proclaims publicly they are MGTOW is likely not actually MGTOW.

Real MGTOWs keep it quiet, they lead a happy life and don't need to justify it to anyone.

>>134618343
Even women who collect child and spousal support think they're independent.

>>134610128
Well, considering I'm in my mid 30s, debt free, own 2 pieces of property and have a stable career, I seem to be doing well. My married (and divorced) friends are still stuck with all sorts of debt from medical expenses (MSP doesn't cover everything), school and activity fees, child support and alimony payments, etc. And to cover this, some of them have to take extra jobs and end up driving their careers into a dead end since they can't commit or excel at either. They'll always be that tired guy at work that no one will miss

>>134619079
Rights aren't determined by laws. They either exist or they don't, and can't be created or destroyed by humans.
In the first place, both arbiters and writers of law are biased and equality is impossible in the context of human judgment. Equal opportunity is also impossible because any difference between people - and people are *necessarily* different, in that people are metaphysically incapable of being identical with anything other than themselves - can account for a difference in their access to any given thing. If I'm born on a bed two feet from you, our opportunities are already different due only to the fact that I in the space I occupy have access to breathing in different air than you.

>>134619218
>Try a thousand, then we'll talk.
i was serious. But i can't expect more of someone who is not an incel. Only incels can understand incels. At least i'm not mgtow though.

>>134619357
This is what's so scary tptb have successfully subverted one of the most basic and fulfilling aspects of what it is to be human.

>>134619458
In the 1800s a wife would have provided your food, clothing, employees and retirement. Now she's just dependent like having a child that never grows up.

>>134619496
asdsad
if dubbs kek will give me a gf and i will improve my neanderthal english

>>134619496
That's the lamest damn thing I've ever heard.

>"Look at me, I'm undesirable!"
Well, here's the unforeseeable part. You've only approached 2 TEN MILLIONTHS of a percent of women worldwide.

Move forward or die trying.

>>134611170
It also comes from men who were raised in divorce families as well. They too know the damage that can be dealt given that they were used as the tool to inflict harm and division.

>>134611170
>MGTOWS aren't fat ugly fedora permavirgin neckbeards who can't get women. They are guys who HAVE experienced modern western women.
Most of them are. They ree so hard about women that it's pathetic.

>>134610128
You dont understand the Bible. At all. Right from the get go

>>134619002
What kind of half assed response is that? "Can you define equality", yeah it's a Google click away.

>>134611170
>MGTOWS aren't fat ugly fedora permavirgin neckbeards who can't get women. They are guys who HAVE experienced modern western women.

This.

The biggest anti-MGTOWs are the virgins and losers who chase after women with no success. Of course they worship women, they center their whole lives around them, and have no understanding of what they are doing. If they really understood women, they wouldn't be throwing their lives away in this pursuit.

>>134620320
No, it's not.
"I want equality!"
Equality *OF* or *IN* what, dipshit? Because in virtually all propositions which include the "what" or "if" necessary to talk the concept it's simply and sheerly fucking impossible.

>>134620320
Because equality ends up meaning "We need to fire a competent man so we can hire a potentially less competent female" or "We are going to forego hiring a man with excellent qualifications and instead hire this woman with mediocre qualifications"

>>134620614
That's fascism.

Wait, you'd probably like that, wouldn't you?

>>134610719
I put an end to it cause i m ugly .

>>134620486
I've been married and had a family and completely understand this movement. Even as a single manlet I did pretty well with women. My own mother says she can't understand why any man would get married today.

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People who live on a planet composed of 75% water and STILL can't fucking swim!!!

>>134610128
https://youtu.be/mpI3y4Nqt4Y is all the reason i need to not bother and not give a fuck.

>>134610128
>>134610689
i hate labels, but i guess i'm mgtow. i don't blame my shortcomings on women. i don't hate them. i just haven't been able to figure them out in a social setting. i have no game at all. can't tell when they mean what they say and when i should disregard. i probably give too much credence to how they appear on social media and other kinds of media. makes it even more awkward to approach them. and finally, yes, i've seen things that have made me hesitate on a couple of occasions i might have married.

otherwise, i lead a reasonably successful life, have done some traveling, pay my taxes and help family, friends and people in general when the opportunity presents itself. also could still probably beat your ass were you to call me scum to my face, though nobody has that kinda' sand anymore. they just talk smack on the web unless they've got 3 buddies with them or your back is turned. will probably retire south of the border somewhere in a few years where there is actual white privilege and i am found to be more attractive. maybe i'll knock up some tica a couple of times real quick and raise a family late in the game. maybe not, but either way, i've had a pretty good life thus far and am near to financial independence, if i don't insist on living in an expensive coastal city in the states.

and for the guy calling me a boy, odds are that i've done more manly man shit than you have and that were we to be acquainted, i'd be your boss and you would suck up to me earnestly out of respect and admiration and even though that shit makes me cringe, i would still try and guide you up the ladder if you aren't actually as much of a cunt as you sound like on 4chan.

>>134610128
I think anyone that classifies themselves as MGTOW without being capable of actually hooking up with a woman on short notice is pathetic as fuck, if they're using it as cover for not being able to get laid there's nothing worse than that.

However I think there are justifiable reasons for not wanting to live with women. I've been through some shit in my life, engaged to my fiance for about 4 years, everything was great, found her cheating on me about 4 months before the wedding date. Most women just aren't good people, they lie, manipulate, steal, cheat, and they do it with a straight face and usually without any remorse. Don't get me wrong, there are often good "moments" with women, where things are nice and happy and you could imagine a longterm life together, but then you see a red flag, something that gives you serious doubts.

To me it's just not worth to to bear all of that shit again. I'm more or less a MGTOW at this point, I go out and get laid occasionally if I get really horny but I can't see myself ever living with a woman again, and don't even really want to date. Too much bullshit, listening to crap I don't want to hear, talking about shit I'm not really interested in, endless drama, usually bored with her unless we're fucking, I mean it's just not my idea of time well spent, I'd literally rather be sitting in a chair reading a book on the porch than spend time with the majority of women outside of the bedroom.

The only argument I can agree with is necessity to procreate which is the only thing that gives me pause in my decision. Although it's possible I have a child I don't know about.

1. I'll respect women when they learn to respect themselves.

2. Women are like adult sized emotional children. When you understand this, understanding them become easier.

3. I don't want to be around women who would make me think "Should I ask her for her phone number or ask her how much?

4. Loyality isn't a word a female understands well.

>>134622409
>pay my taxes
I'd hardly think it's admirable to add as part of your life's achievements that you proudly let leeches suck your blood.