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THE MEXICAN-AMERICAN WAR HAPPENED BECAUSE MEXICANS ARE FUCKING

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Let's begin by starting before the Texas Revolution, Turns out, in 1825, your country allowed the settlement of foreign citizens to settle in your lands of what is now Texas, this allowed many United States citizens to come down to Texas because land was very cheap. Here's the kicker, there was no assimilation laws on the books and land grants were also expensive and time consuming so many Mexican citizens didn’t go to Texas, by 1830 there were 7,000 foreigners and only 3,000 Mexican citizens. Because of this, foreigners (American citizens) were more plentiful in Texas than Mexican citizens, Americans were more plentiful in Texas than Mexican citizens and before the Texas Revolution there was another rebellion that took place known as the "Freedonian Rebellion" where Anglos wanted to secede from you. When that failed, Mexico went fucking ballistic, they realized that people couldn't just become Mexican unless they WERE Mexican, Mexican Secretary of State Lucas Alamán realized that Mexico needed assimilation laws on the books: "Texas will be lost for this Republic if adequate measures to save it are not taken. ... Where others send invading armies ... [the Americans] send their colonists." Even back then you blamed us for your own failures.

Here is the proof: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Colonization_Law#Law
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>>134605527
This isn’t the end though, Mexico then passes a law banning the settlement of American citizens in Texas on April 6, 1830, this law removed the previous law in place of no property tax for 10 years, and you also placed tariffs on American goods entering Mexico, causing your prices to rise. But then exempted Stephen F. Austin and his colonies from these rules because they were successful and they brought cheap labor due to slavery even though you were against slavery. Four years after the bill was passed, which allowed nobody but Mexican citizens to settle and gave them priority settlement, there was already 30,000 Anglos living in Texas compared to the 7,800 Mexicans. You barely grew at all, and because the land grants were expensive and then you tariffed American goods, they only got more expensive and even less Mexicans moved up north.

This can all be found here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_April_6,_1830
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>>134605563
The settlement laws and the reasons of secession can even be found in the Texas Declaration of Independence: http://www.lsjunction.com/docs/tdoi.htm

>”The Mexican government, by its colonization laws, invited and induced the Anglo-American population of Texas to colonize its wilderness under the pledged faith of a written constitution, that they should continue to enjoy that constitutional liberty and republican government to which they had been habituated in the land of their birth, the United States of America.”

>”In this expectation they have been cruelly disappointed, inasmuch as the Mexican nation has acquiesced in the late changes made in the government by General Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna, who having overturned the constitution of his country, now offers us the cruel alternative, either to abandon our homes, acquired by so many privations, or submit to the most intolerable of all tyranny, the combined despotism of the sword and the priesthood.”
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>>134605632
>”It has sacrificed our welfare to the state of Coahuila, by which our interests have been continually depressed through a jealous and partial course of legislation, carried on at a far distant seat of government, by a hostile majority, in an unknown tongue, and this too, notwithstanding we have petitioned in the humblest terms for the establishment of a separate state government, and have, in accordance with the provisions of the national constitution, presented to the general Congress a republican constitution, which was, without just cause, contemptuously rejected.”

You lost Texas, and as consequence the rest of the west coast of the now United States because you allowed us to settle here and when your government was overthrown by your military, we decided to fight for independence. We could have stayed, we could have continued to be part of Mexico or not taken all of “your” land had Santa Anna not overthrown your government. But since I’m having fun, let’s go further to the Mexican-American War.
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>>134605684
When Mexico lost the Texas Revolution they got butt hurt and didn’t recognize Texas Independence, you went so far as to even go back in their despite losing but because you were dealing with your own problems due to federalist rebellions, it never happened. Even if you did come back to Texas, there were already American volunteers ready to help and it was during this time that Texas gave a formal declaration to the United States that they would like to join the Union. This was a big topic of debate in the election of 1844. Throughout Mexico however, for years Mexico wanted higher taxes to add to the military budget in order to reconquer Texas. But because of the rebellions, they feared more parts of their nation would secede along with Texas so they had to divert funds to other locations. The Rio Grande even tried to declare independence from you and the Mexican government also made it illegal to talk positively about Texas.
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>>134605769
When Santa Anna was captured by the Texan Military they wanted him executed, but he was saved by Sam Houston, sent to Washington D.C., and returned to Mexico, alive. Mexico immediately blamed America for their involvement in the war despite America being neutral. Many of the Texans who fought were volunteers, only 200 were actually U.S. Army soldiers. It was mainly citizens, out of their own free will, free of any government involvement, who helped Texas gain independence. During the time between independence and annexation of Texas, America, France, and Great Britain all recognized Texas as a free independent state, with Great Britain even going so far as to help be a mediator in Mexico recognizing Texas. Mexico was willing to recognize Texas as a free state if they weren’t annexed. But Texans did vote to be part of the United States, and then war was declared because of how ass-blasted you were at losing. The funny part was, that even your own citizens fought in the Texas Revolution to not be part of you.

Aftermath right here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Revolution#Aftermath
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>>134605814
You declared war on the U.S. because you couldn’t handle the fact you lost Texas DESPITE the secession in 1836, you still claimed it as part of your land from the Sabine River. When Mexico wouldn’t recognize Texas or the United States’ claim to Texas, you still said that it was Mexican land. Even your President, Mariano Paredes, said in his inaugural address that he would uphold the integrity of the “Mexican territory”. Mexican and American troops arrived at the Sabine and Mexican’s sent a letter as a formal declaration of war, they then killed American troops.
Found here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thornton_Affair#cite_ref-2
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>>134605860
But before we get into the war, let’s take a look at what Mexico was going through, following the Texas Revolution there was another revolution going on. The Bear Flag Revolt, dealing with the Californian Republic. Before the Californian Revolt, California was neglected by Mexico and California didn’t mind being independent or annexed by France, the United Kingdom, or the United States. The people of California even completely ignored Mexican laws. Let’s remember that Mexico allowed immigration from foreign places to settle in Mexican territory. Yup, there were American in California too, all because Mexico allowed foreigners to live in their land. The law of April 6, 1830, which only allowed Mexican settlers didn’t work.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Republic#Background_of_the_Bear_Flag_Revolt
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>>134605959
There were also cases of Mexican’s being killed and hunted down by both Comanche and Apache Indian tribes, causing Mexicans not to settle in these areas, with many cases of Mexican citizens welcoming American troops in the hopes they would be better and defeating Indians than the Mexicans.

> When American troops invaded northern Mexico in 1846 they found a devastated landscape and a demoralized people. There was little resistance to the Anglo-Americans. Some Mexicans in the north perhaps welcomed the US invasion with the hope that the U.S. would be more successful in fighting the "barbarians" than Mexican forces had been.
Found here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comanche%E2%80%93Mexico_Wars#Impact_on_Mexico

You also tried fighting the Apache but were completely unprepared as found here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache%E2%80%93Mexico_Wars#War_with_Mexico
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>>134606005
Back to California, shit has hit the fan and Mexico cannot control the people because they are Anglo and non-Mexican citizens along with some Mexican and Spanish citizens who did not want to be part of Mexico anymore. One such man was an American federal diplomat by the name of John C. Fremont, who took command of the Californian rebellion after receiving a letter that he later talks about in his book: “I saw the way opening clear before me. War with Mexico was inevitable; and a grand opportunity presented itself to realize in their fullest extent the far-sighted views of Senator Benton. I resolved to move forward on the opportunity and return forthwith to the Sacramento valley in order to bring to bear all the influence I could command."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Republic#Captain_Fr.C3.A9mont_in_California
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>>134606122
Now, he says the war was inevitable. He’s right, it was inevitable, our relations had gotten absolutely turned to shit after the Texas Revolution and the Annexation of Texas but there is another reason for why he says it was inevitable, California. California is by far the most rich and plentiful state in the Union. Odds are, we would have gone to war against each other eventually, but we’re not the only nation that sought to take California. France and the United Kingdom wanted it as well, with one English diplomat in California stating: “to establish an English population in the magnificent Territory of Upper California", saying that "no part of the World offering greater natural advantages for the establishment of an English colony ... by all means desirable ... that California, once ceasing to belong to Mexico, should not fall into the hands of any power but England ... daring and adventurous speculators in the United States have already turned their thoughts in this direction." Of course this was during the Little England policy so it was not implemented.
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>>134606227
One US minister even noted that both England and France were eyeing the state: “As to Texas, I regard it as of very little value compared with California, the richest, the most beautiful, and the healthiest country in the world ... with the acquisition of Upper California we should have the same ascendency on the Pacific ... France and England both have had their eyes upon it." Also note that the Californians were sparsely settled and even the last Californian governor of Alta California did not mind being acquired by either of the three nations and favored British annexation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican%E2%80%93American_War#Designs_on_California
Looking at this we can see no matter what, the people in the Mexican land did not want to be part of Mexico and even if they did, eventually Mexico would have to go to war against, the UK, the US, or France, or maybe even Russia or Canada. There is no way in hell that the UK, France, or Russia would have acted kindly towards any of you.
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>>134606302
Back to California, a rebellion took place with John C. Fremont, the US soldier taking Mexican government horses, this rebellion was going to lead to Anglo-Americans gaining independence from Mexico, but the Mexican-American War made it less of a conflict. William B. Ide, the leader of the Bear Revolt, explained why he did it:

>”[The Mexican Commander of the troops] also solemnly declares his object to be First, to defend himself and companions in arms who were invited to this country by a promise of Lands on which to settle themselves and families who were also promised a "republican government," who, when having arrived in California were denied even the privilege of buying or renting Lands of their friends, who instead of being allowed to participate in or being protected by a "Republican Government" were oppressed by a "Military Despotism," who were even threatened, by "Proclamation" from the Chief Officer of the aforesaid Despotism, with extermination if they would not depart out of the Country, leaving all of their property, their arms and beasts of burden, and thus deprived of the means of flight or defense. We were to be driven through deserts, inhabited by hostile Indians to certain destruction. To overthrow a Government which has seized upon the property of the Missions for its individual aggrandizement; which has ruined and shamefully oppressed the laboring people of California, by their enormous exactions on goods imported into this country; is the determined purpose of the brave men who are associated under his command.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Republic#Ide.27s_proclamation
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>>134606456
It was at this time that the Mexican-American War had already been declared and after the war, the bear flag, became the US flag.

In the Thornton Affair, they cite a senator that opposed the war with Mexico saying it’s just as much of the US’ fault as the Mexican’s. Yet, this Senator is not named and the only source is by some Mexican intellectual who feels that America did this as a land grab despite Mexicans murdering American troops and not controlling their citizens or having good immigration laws. After Mexico murdered American troops, President Polk addressed Congress on the matter:
>” But now, after reiterated menaces, Mexico has passed the boundary of the United States, has invaded our territory and shed American blood upon the American soil. She has proclaimed that hostilities have commenced, and that the two nations are now at war.” All of this because you didn’t recognize Texas.
http://www.dmwv.org/mexwar/documents/polk.htm
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>>134606567
The rest is history, the Mexican-American War happened and Mexico lost 55% of their land because they thought they could settle land with someone else’s people. Many Mexicans didn’t even want to fight the Americans because the Mexicans felt they had no reason to fight them. So next time some Mexishit tells you that this was nothing more than a land grab by Americans, please make sure you show him this and make him cry even louder as he silently says “v-viva Mexico…”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican%E2%80%93American_War

Now look what your people do to our land, they’re turning it into the shithole they left. Be grateful we didn’t take more, be grateful we didn’t take the whole continent, and be grateful that we were nice neighbors to you for all this time. You want this land? Fight for it. But since we know you won’t we’ll tell you this. Tread lightly.
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