Military anons of /pol/, what did you learn in the military that

How to shut up and listen for a bit would be nice.

>>134587849
literally never gonna happen

>>134587680

There's not enough time and space to unload here.

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>>134588500
/pol/ needs you to anon please

For the most part soldiers aren't gonna be that great at survival tactics. With the obvious exception in regards to SF or pilots that do the higher level SERE training. The truth of the matter is that logistics wins wars. We have the best logistical chains of any nation. We will rarely lack for food. Our doctrine for warfare assumes we've gained air superiority. Our doctrine calls for number superiority for engaging in a firefight. There's no emphasis on hunting for food or making your own shelter for example. My personal advice is that fortune favors the well prepared. Water is more important than food and its the heaviest thing you'd have to carry in a pack because of its density.

>>134587680
Watch the movie Predator, it pretty much sums it up

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Another good thing to learn is that you likely could find a solution to your problem on your own if you put some effort into it. If you have tried nothing and are asking for help you should expect to bumbled around for a while longer till I help.

Basic First aid is more difficult than realized.
That's the first thing you need to know after how to wash your hands properly...

>>134588839
>For the most part soldiers aren't gonna be that great at survival tactics
That's suspect. Not due to military training, but due to the fact that at least for combat arms lots of members have outside training and skill at survival.

I think the number of boy scouts in the military is higher than any other job you might find.

>>134589415
>Basic First aid is more difficult than realized.
>That's the first thing you need to know after how to wash your hands properly...
If you get shot and are a long way from help take some dirt and shove that in your wound. Better than dying of blood loss.

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>>134587680
US Marine Infantry. 2 combat tours. 37 gunfights. 2 IED strikes to my vehicle. had a guntruck shot out from under me by an RPG.

>Gunfights suck. Avoid them.
>They take retarded amounts of cardio. No matter how well you are trained and how good of a marksman you are its friggin crazy hard to shoot a guy who is trying to shoot you. Even some dipshit 15 year old with a rusty AK only has to get lucky once to render all the training and equipment moot and kill you.
>explosions arent so cool when youre inside one. Braindamage is the normal outcome assuming amputation or death by dismemberment and shrapnel doesnt happen first.
>unit cohesion, rehersal, and communication are all more important than gear and guns. If you got 50 dudes with the best guns money can buy but no training on how to work tpgether they will get wiped out by 20 dudes with crappy gear but good training.

If a real war breaks out on merican soil yer all gonna die. Well.... most of you anyways. Everyone likes to imagine it as a heroic "everyone but me" deal but the reality is you dont even gotta fuck up or do anything wrong. You just gotta get unlucky once. Americans (and just peoole in developed nations in general) are NOT ready to do the dirty unheroic and downright reprehensible things you need to do to survive.

Even then, survivibg will leave you a bitter apathetic asshole with brain damage, shitty knees, fucked up back, torn rotator cuffs, and fucked up hips. Makes you an old man by age 25.

Patience. Tuned aggression. Competence. A personal set of ethics. Respect for those with experience. Desire for camaraderie. Appreciation of competition. Discipline of the mind and body. Evaluation of threats.

Learning to train, develop, and lead--and to trust subordinates and peers with delegated tasks. Understanding that family and country come before money, medals, and rank.

Finally: all that matters is your mission gets accomplished and your men come home to their families. Fuck everything and everyone else.

>>134590091

Nice larping

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>>134590394
Whose larping? I spent 9 months in ramadi and 8 months in sangin. I seen some fuckin shit. (Pic is MOPP gear training in 29 palms inbetween the two)

>>134590091
Post proof faggot

>>134590394
larping or not he is not wrong

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>>134590707
Pics or didnt happen right? Im postin em. I apologize if my reaction to being shot at wasnt "pull out phone and gawk." All my photos are in between shit going down. Was too busy trying not to die when anything exciting happened to whip out my camera and take pictures.

>>134588839
>not packing dehydrated water powder in your bug out bag

all of my keks

>>134590707
Stop shilling better men then you.


>>134590705

LOL This kid man, any idiot who argues with basic facts of war (ie that it sucks, does nothing but literally destroy bodies, huge random element due to air/artillary/ect shit).

>>134590707
>>134590394

t. limp wristed faggots

>>134589779
I'm talking about keeping a bleeding wound above the heart, making a proper tourniquet, how to hit a pen properly into someone's throat or lung who has an obstructed airway kind of shit...theres a ton to learn. Also dirt in a wound WILL kill you...touniquet that shit and forget about that limb ever again. Best way to survive.

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>>134588500
Lock an load faggot.
Just do it.

>>134587680

Learn to shoot, get rations, hate niggers because even if they're on your side you're gonna have to carry them and they'll turn on you once they're around their kind.

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>>134588839

this is what I was looking for, also is there any military gear you would pick over civie gear or is it all junk?

>>134590172
This guy is Semper Fi

>>134587849
desu I automatically ignore anyone with a kekistani flag

it's a bigger tell that the poster is an utter faggot than a canadian flag is

>>134587680
Is there anything you shouldn't know? Is there any thing that can be learned that would be somehow a waste of your time to learn? I don't think that there is.

>>134590091
I figured as much, so pump up cardio and basically hope we aren't fucked?

>>134590091
This is why militias in the US are so important.

Organization and communication and practice. These are what white people should be focusing on.

The trouble is that we're all enormously disconnected from each other in real life and we have no way to network and intermingle. What things like churches and holidays used to do for us, no longer do. Families grow more distant by the decade from each other.

We really need to start tightly knitting white communities back together somehow.

>>134587680
I can illegally tell you the Aegis system NEVER misses and all accidental bombings are in fact purposeful. I've watched ants crawl on speed limit signs 200 miles away...
Also, every naval vessel can see every single ship on the planet including subs at ANY given time without fail.
I can illegally tell you a Nimitz class can push 90 nauts while the official speed is only 30.
Lived on safest place in the world...the middle of an armada..

>>134590091
damn boy you have some tiny ass hands

>>134587680

Former Navyfag here. NOS B320.

The US has a lot, I mean...A LOT of foreign territories, bases, air fields and installations across the planet.

I was stationed in Hawaii, Japan and Guam for most of my active duty.

The one time I saw war, our objective was to smash and go. Rules of engagement were: open to interpretation and discretion. Floated into GOB (gulf of Bahrain) and unloaded 11,000 Tomahawks and 50 Scuds into Iraq. Targets being schools, hospitals, university dorms and military installations. Lots of innocent people died. We weren't the only country there doing this.

I'm personally responsible for tens of thousands of deaths, I sleep well at night.

>>134591712
Fuckin moon man killing the spooks, man

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>>134587680
In my opinion, civvies don't need to worry about shelter and tactics.
The bulk of what I learned in the military was more personality oriented than bellic.

Society would be better if people understood and practiced comraderie and had bootcamp-like sense of unity, brotherhood, organization and esprit de corps.

>>134592096
Its the weight of the fucking gear, assault pack, iotv ACH, boots, the combat uniform is thick and doesn't have much ventilation. Get used to running with all that shit and you'll be good

>>134591506
Yeah. Kinda bothers me a bit. When I DO tell my stories folks who aint been there jump down your throat for your story not matching their preconcieved notions of war.

Unless ypur story sounds like a rendition of american sniper or call of duty they dont wanna hear it. War is stupid. It wastes billions and billions on equipment that never gets used. It skims the best most virile, intelligent, fit, and motivated individuals and grinds em up. Either kills em or burns them out and evicts them from societey. Its clumsy, dirty, dangerous and honestly not even very interesting to watch.

A real gunfight is a stumbling clumsy ducking affair that lasts 6 hours and if you move too slow, stick your head out too far, or just fuckin enter the wrong room too early or too late you get pasted.

You might even do everything right and still lose your legs just because an IED or landmine wasnt picked up by the sweeper. Maybe a grenade gets tossed through a window in the middle of your tacticool house clearing op. Maybe some shithead with a sniper rifle puts one in your head while youre trying to take a piss or eat something. Its random and stupid and senseless.

Movies and games have everyone convinced that combat is exciting and visually appealling. Its not. Its just fuckin stupid and terrifying and when its over you just wanna go home, but you still got 5 months left.

You just wanna eat something but it smells like literal shit cuz some haji got hit by a mortar outside. People have shit inside them, when they explode or get shot where does it go? Fuckin everywhere.

>>134592625
Corpsman a decent rate? Whats your opinions on going Green side. Hate to be that guy and ask but I like to hear all the opinions I can get

>>134592625
FC
You literally turned a knob and pushed a button.

>>134592754
I'm guessing this would also ruin your body just training for it, is there any communications training a civvie could do? what about just training to be ready for a war time rushed boot camp?

>>134588839
Here's a guy who doesn't know shit about actual war fighting, let alone what the US combat arms practices.

>>134587680
in case of civil war, mandatory areas for setting up camps would be in hard to cross terrain, swamps, woods, anywhere that government surveillance dims in capability. you can also have the benefit of having support from civilians. in many cases fighting federal forces head on will be a death send, you will have to ambush small units, destroy their weakest links.

>>134593138
Knowing radio communication, 9line medevac, salute report, call for fire etc, also knowing how to read maps will be the best thing a civilian could learn in their free time. It will either save your life or help you get promoted if you get drafted or decide to join up.

>>134591825
The leaf is right on this one.

>>134592919

Yea. Not bad.

>>134592941

t. Shippie that ain't killed noone nohow

>>134589779
Literally don't listen to this guy. That's advice that will get you killed. Stuff that shit with gauze and slap an H-bandage on it. If it's still bleeding, use a tourniquet. If we're talking shit hits the fan scenario, you don't want to use a tourniquet unless it's an arterial bleed with blood shooting out, because you will almost certainly lose that leg. Once it's on, it doesn't come off. Taking it off will resume bleeding with the added bonus of the clot possibly getting into your bloodstream and giving you a stroke if by some miracle you don't bleed out.

Dirt won't stop shit and you'll just get an infection that will kill you.

>>134587680

Keep an eye closed when you go to piss in the middle of the night to maintain night vision.

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>>134593499
>checked
Thanks Anon

>>134593707
Good, I'd like a decent chance of maybe shooting a sub human but still practice the field I hold dear.

>>134587680
Should we learn Commando Krav Maga?

>>134587680
just conscription, not actual combat.

only thing of real-life value i learned from the experience was that the mind goes before the body. during heavy physical exertion, you can always do more, always push on. it has helped me in civilian life, both with exercise, and daily life in general. also with stress.

>>134594048
also i guess this is something you learn by doing, not being told.

>>134593138
Start running. Every day. Don't eat like shit. And don't be a pussy. Yelling is a form of communication like any other, don't take it personally. Learn how to yell loud. And I mean from the guy. Because firefights are loud, so are engines, and even with ear pro most guys are half deaf.

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New /HTG/ thread for any interested anons:

>>134584287

We are especially looking for anyone who's good with photo shop and the like to help us map out suspected trafficking hubs, routes, known industrial shipping routes, and etc;

Again, anyone who knows how to and is willing to make maps to help us out would be VERY MUCH APPRECIATED AND ADMIRED!!!

>>134589415
Anon seems interesting where can i learn? Kinda bummed I was never signed up for boy scouts as a kid. I know a kid I graduated high school with, he was an eagle scout.

>>134593547
Kekistani flag < Leaf < Everyone else

>defensible positions
Be somewhere else. If you're defending then you're in a shitty place, you want to be the attacking party.

>how much supplies to carry on our person in case of emergency
You're never carrying enough, and you're always carrying everything except the one thing you need right now.

>basic self-defense
1. Have a gun
2. Don't not have a gun.
3. Have a more accurate, more-rounds-per-minute gun
4. Have more guns, have more people to use those guns
5. The only good fights are the ones that don't involve you.

>foreign policy
Be more trouble than it's worth.

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>>134592746
>Society would be better if people understood and practiced comraderie and had bootcamp-like sense of unity, brotherhood, organization and esprit de corps.
What do you think of mandatory military service for all men (women are debatable) between the ages of ~16 and 28?

>>134594167
How much should I run per day? should I start running with a pack once I'm in shape?

>>134588839
>My personal advice is that fortune favors the well prepared. Water is more important than food and its the heaviest thing you'd have to carry in a pack because of its density.

good advice

>>134590091
>Americans (and just peoole in developed nations in general) are NOT ready to do the dirty unheroic and downright reprehensible things you need to do to survive.
>not knowing I watch man vs wild

>>134594644
>What do you think of mandatory military service for all men (women are debatable) between the ages of ~16 and 28?
Voluntary Territory Army training is better, you don't want people who are unequipped and not interested in it.
When it is voluntary you'll get people who are interested and motivated to do the training.
Quality over quantity.

>>134593906

>maybe

Guarantee for the next decade. Shame I'll miss all the fun.

>>134594644
My country used to have it until not too long ago, it's good for numbers only. You end up getting kids with bad habits that end up corrupting others, thugs. It basically becomes a quantity over quality situation.

My opinion is that this kind of education should start early with some youth program like the Hitler's Youth or Salazar's Mocidade Portuguesa.
You can call it brainwashing or whatever you like, but it's certainly better than what we have these days.

>>134590091
Stop being a crying cunt. You're all nothing more than man-child welfare queen.

>>134594629
Pretty accurate but I'll chime in. Having patrolled miles and miles in 160 pounds of gear I feel like im a bit of a subject matter expert on weight load.

Carry 1/3rd your body weight. Its enough weight to allow the essentials but not so much it decreases mobility. Yeah in COMBAT you need a lot of stuff when you dont know how long it will take and are expected to not only not avoid combat but actually intentionally engage in it.

Survival aint combat. If youre surviving you should focus on avoiding direct confrontation and staying mobile. Carry some food, some shelter (tarp and chordage and blanket) good knife, good hatchet, fire starting kit, some water, first aid, and some ammo. If you still got room left at the 1/3rd bodyweight mark toss in extras. Best survival pack isnt one that has everything, its the one thats flexible enough to respond to a wide varietey of situations but still light enough to actually be mobile in.

Ideally you should be able to cover atleast 20 miles a day with your pack. Walk 5 miles, rest 30 min, walk 5 miles, rest 30 min etc etc. If you arent fit then get fit. Cuz having a perfect pack dont mean shit if you cant move.

>>134595490
And ypure nothing more than a whiny NEET with nothing relevant to add to the thread. Go watch trap porn or somethingm grownups are talking.

>>134595490
And ypure nothing more than a whiny NEET with nothing relevant to add to the thread. Go to another thread and bitch about how girls wont touch yer pee-pee or something, grownups are talking.

>>134594900

Don't get into running shape and assume you can hump around with a ruck.

Your legs need to be conditioned for weight. Do squats. Lots of squats. You should be able to squat 1.5x your body weight as skinny-fat nerd fresh off the couch. Work until you're over 2.0x.

In addition, start doing sprints. You're not running the god damn 400m. Do 50m at a time. Sprint 50m, walk 50m, sprint, walk, etc. This will increase your endurance better than doing long runs. General weight lifting will also increase your cardio condition. My fastest 5km runs have been when I was lifting a lot and RARELY doing distance running.

Once your sprints are up there, your legs are strong, and you could actually RUN for 3 miles (run, not jog - which is basically the same speed as walking), maybe start adding weights for your sprints.

I've always liked to sprint with a plate carrier and plates. It is absolutely not designed for this kind of stuff - the make purpose built weighted vests - but I like to be use to wearing it, even when it's uncomfortable and cumbersome.

IF you make it to where you can sprint for 200m with a weighted vest (plate carrier), maybe try it with a ruck. I never do.

Squats and sprints, though. Do them.

DISCLAIMER: Shin splints and plantar fasciitis are not fun. Take care of yourself. Don't start too fast. Getting in shape is not a "hit the ground running" evolution. You need to get into "usable shape" first. This will take time as your body adapts to not sitting on it's ass all day. Take it slow. I fucked my knee up pretty bad, but I kept lifting and I knew my cardio was there. I figured once I was rehabed, I would just continue running like a do anyway. Wrong. Plantar Fasciitis fucked my shit up. 4 months and 3 steroid shots later, I'm getting better.

Just take it slow, bubba.

>>134587680
Know how to work with what you have not what you need, and learn to survive with 0 bowel movements

>>134596512
>random thread
>fucking wealth of information
thanks, anon.

I would be intrested in how much you really have to carry. I was told here in Germany it is maybe 35 kg. To me it seems odd that they complain about having to walk 20-25 miles in one day. I did tours with where i walked up to 30 hours with roughly equal weight. It was hard but nowhere near impossible to do, especially with good shoes and somebody you could talk to.

>>134592625
>50 SCUDS
uh huh, so you were with the Saudi or Syrian contingent in Desert Storm right...on a boat. Sure ya were Walter Mitty.

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>>134587680

CBRN (74D) here. You can make a gas mask out of a wet t-shirt and a two liter and will work pretty well if you can't get a real one. A hazmat suit you can make out of a roll of duct tape and some waterproof tarps.

These combined will be good against most things except for gamma. Gamma radiation, you can find a two year fallout shelter or kiss your ads goodbye.

3/5 powdered bleach and dirt will be good for residual rads for cars. Activated charcoal is best but bleach will do the trick.

Don't join the army if you don't like racial politics. Mexicans and niggers (mostly nogs) blow each other for promotions and if you're white, pray to god you are in a white unit.

>>134596512
The best way to get in shape for hiking is fuckin easy dude. Just fill a pack full of shit and hike. Do it regularly and you'll figure out on your own what gear is a waste of space and whats critical. After a while you just dont notice the weight anymore and can cover miles and miles without having to slow down or stop.

I mean this gym stuff is fine but frankly just filling up a pack with gear and hiking will do the job just fine.

>>134590091

good advice anon

Spent 6 months in the Finnish army

All I learnt was humans can actually sleep right next to an oldish truck engine that is moving the truck you are sitting in the back of, running through bumpy roads

>>134590091
Clean that fucking 50 my god

I ever had a fucking private with enough time on his hands to pose for a selfie when his crew serve looked like that i would crush his fucking duck so hard he'd sprout vaginas out of his ears and his family would forsake him. Christ son

>>134592544

interesting, anon

confirmed what I've suspected

otoh, the vessels for future war will be much much much faster and autonomous

an armada is likely a sitting duck

>>134598297
Most folks dont like hearing that they aint ready for combat. Everyone secretley imagines themself as the main charecter at the center of the story.

Reality is combat sucks and most people arent capable of it without the proper indoctrination and conditioning. Even then its a fuckin asskicker that burns you up pretty quick.

Maybe like 5% of the population end up with the right combination of mental and physical traits that make them naturally fit for warfare. The rest gotta be indoctrinated and PTed and drilled over and over for months at great expense to be worth a damn at fighting. Plus you lose that skillset and mindset really fast. It only takes a few months to revert back to being useless again. Thats why military grunts are literally almost never not training at it.

Its a pretty sick lifestyle too. Wears ya out fast and is generally just an unsustainable mode of existence.

>>134592625
>50 Scuds

Scuds are Soviet land-based missiles

what the fuck are you on about?

Learning to slice the pie and clear rooms is the best thing you can learn. If someone breaks into your home and you need to clear rooms, you will wish you knew how.

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>>134599200
We found it in an iraqi army weapons locker. Thats why I took a picture with it actually. Never fuckin seen a gun in such rough shape. We spent 3 hours busting rust on it and got it firing again.

Fuckin hajis dont value anything we give em.

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>>134587680
You should know you have little to no chance of long term survival without a colony in which to live in.
Can someone survive on their own? Yes.
Will you be that person, statistically impossible.
You can study as many books, you can try to practice as much as you want to survive.
You will not without a reliable home and family (colony) to work with.
You'll starve, get sick, lose resources, die from environmental factors, be ransacked, be murdered, be taken over, be injured, because this is not a movie. You can not do it all.
If you want to learn useful skills, sure go for it. Specialize in something. The more specialized you are the more you can barter and be useful with other people (could potentially save your life if someone say needs a mechanic).
The colony is the only way to survive.
You work together for each other's mutual survival. It's the only form of communism that actually works. As every human needs resources to live.
As for supplies, you carry at most a quarter of your body weight. You'll never be able to carry more indefinitely. Though it could be argued you could carry more at the start and drop unneeded weight as you move on. You carry as much of that in food and water as you can.
You keep your regions temperature in mind and the rest of your resources should reflect the environment.
This isn't some fucking camp out, this is survival. You'll possibly be sleeping in drain ditches, you could be sleeping in shacks.
Maybe abandoned houses, but in reality until you know the nature of your threat. Assume you'll be sleeping with no fire and no protection from the elements.
Basic defense is just a plus, a firearm or improvised weapon is just plain better. Not getting into a CQC fight or taken prisoner is the smarter move.
Foreign policy? If shit hits the fan to the point we are living Red Dawn, this won't matter at all. They will kill you if given the chance.
5 years SOCCNET, multiple years PSYOP, trained with SF, I am not SF.

>>134599593
PSYOPS? Were you guys that started the rumor that our sunglasses had x-ray vision so we could see the haji women naked? Cuz in sangin those fuckers were 100% convinced our x-ray sunglasses allowed us to perv on their women.

>>134599562
Now I know you're a vet. Fucking hajj shit bag AA and IP.... fuck em. keep you're head high brother. You're worth fighting for. Reach out when you need help. Go to the VA. Things look dark call your brothers, your family, onesource. Keep your head held high. You will make it Marine.

>>134592625
I'll take shit that never happened for 500 Alex

>>134587680

Just go find your local militia and if you're already military they'll have found you.

My dad was a combat medic in Vietnam and told me was approached many times by militias trying to recruit him. He declined as they were a bunch of extremist nutjobs.

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>>134599593
This is more of a question of shit hitting the fan but before a red dawn scenario more like a total war rapid shit training draft or militia event.

You should know that if a kiowa or apache helicopter wants you dead, you are completely fucked.

>>134599946
I aint gonna kill myself dude. I just hate most everyone and my body hurts a lot more than it should. Im kinda just permanantly surly and profane.

Far as things go could be worse. Got all my limbs still, brain didnt get scrambled enough to make me retarded, and I get to say fuck off to whoever I want now that my DD-214 is copied in triplicate, laminated, and stashed in my gunsafe.


But yeah. Trying to do joint ops with IA, ANA, and AUP was like handing guns out to heroin addicted toddlers with down syndrome. Frankly I was more worried about getting smoked by an ND from one of those tards than anything else over there.

>>134599944
No that's a meme m8.
If you were infantry it's like a frat house, it's really easy to start rumors.
PSYOP isn't even called that anymore.
It's called MISO now, because the government thought PSYOP sounded too scary.
I have 6 coins from the unit, one of those coins is literally from the last batch of PSYOP coins to ever be made.

If you have questions feel free to ask.
Flat out though, PSYOP is the weirdest mix of POG and Operators that exist in the military.
I worked alongside SF, Infantry, computer guys, "psyopers", it was just a weird fucking experience.

SOCCENT was pretty awesome, I worked with the marines the entire time in IRAQ.

>>134600089
More looking to be prepared and maybe more of an asset to my country in case shit hits the fan then trying to be a dumbass extremist.

>>134600089
Ive been approached by what seems about every crazy seperatist and doomsday survival crew in western montana. Even some fuckin commie hippie commune. I dont like em, theyre too friendly, a little too eager. Just a wierd vibe. Culty and half nuts.

I kinda feel like if SHTF im more likley to end up being shot by one of them than some meth addicted psycho or some dindu looter. Would like to keep them as far away as possible.

Plus I just garuntee ypu every single one of those groups has 2 or 3 federal agents pretending to be members. Would like to stay off those guys list if I can.

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>>134590091
>brain damage, shitty knees, fucked up back, torn rotator cuffs, and fucked up hips
But there is no greater reward than gratitude of the Israeli people and 1%, amirite goyim?

Now imagine instead of fighting wars as pawn for Greater Israel and central bankers you could be somewhere else doing something productive. Whew

>>134587680
The interstate was built as a way to move the military and shut down civilian populations if necessary. Weigh stations double as traffic control points And it was a stolen design of the autobahn created by mein fuer

>>134600891
That will be hard to do when all the overpasses are blown to smithereens.

>>134587680
the military teaches you that no one will ever give one shit whether you like something or not

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>>134600464
We had some of them, plus some of the Human exploitation guys come along on our patrols. Those guys always just wandered off on their own and joined back up with our op whenever they were done.

Only thing PSYOPs ever did was have us hand out a buncha flyers an shit. We just always joked that the hajis got their "Marines spit venom and summon demons" shit from you guys.

You are correct tho. I once showed a haji a picture of anna nicole smith and told him it was my wife. He totally believed me.

>>134587680
Three foot pieces of thick wire with rags tied to it placed in a field will fuck up a landing helicopter. Always no entry and exits.

>>134587680
Confidence and leadership. Shooting skills, first aid, self-aid. Patriotism. And,,, basically how bad ass America is and how lucky I am to be an American.

>>134589779

3 bad posts from our dumb kekistani shill friend

>>134600344
If you're going to be part of a group.
Minimalism goes a long way, carrying unneeded gear can wear you out and make you eat more food.
Back to basics, they don't need Rambo. They need a dude who has skills of any kind.
If you can work a radio, you're more useful than 50% of our total population automatically.
You'd be surprised how few people know that and how much a skill like that would be useful.

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>>134601050
>Implying the military doesn't have equipment to deal with the oldest tactic in the book

>>134593809
Tourniquet should only be used for high pressure bleeding. Like squirting out every beat. Anything else you will want to just gauze and bandage. Eventually it will clot if minor. Never lift the gauze, only ever put more gauze on. Wrap from the thinnest to the thickest. This all assumes the person is in a safe area. Always treat the least hurt first. Tourniquet wounds that need them first, then treat minor wounds to increasing severity. If someone's leg is blown off and you don't have immediate help it's a goner.

>>134590705
Ramadi 05? Were you the marines with 54th EN?

>>134587680
I have a good one anon. Water is the biggest problem. you can fanny about, or if you just want to live then make sure you always have a few bottles of household bleach kicking about.
You can take puddle water, put a couple of drops in a two gallon jug and shake it and leave it for half hour or so, and the water will be purified. It'll taste rank, but it will be pathogen free. Avbottle of bleach isnt that hard to carry and could keep you in water for months.

>>134591093
Great opsec faggot.

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>>134595163
Voluntary Territory Army? Just keep on posting fancy pictures from your homosexual airsoft events in your tacticool uniforms and badass poses, girls on facebook won't see difference anyway.

>>134601139
>We had some of them, plus some of the Human exploitation guys come along on our patrols. Those guys always just wandered off on their own and joined back up with our op whenever they were done.
100% accurate.
>Hey guys we are gonna go into this dangerous village and talk to possible extremist
rest of the group
>k
We would be gone for hours.

Yeah people who work out of Qatar (the JISTF) are the ones who make the flyers.

As far as the memes that's really only because to be a PSYOPer you have to no one foreign language. So we shit talk a lot with the foreigners.
The Marine thing probably came from someone pointing at them and saying "You see those guys, don't fuck with those guys. They will destroy you." and the urban legend evolves from there.

It's the whole point of PSYOP originally. That whole hearts and minds shit only really started recently. Back in the 60s-2000s PSYOP often use to mind fuck people.
Give a little bit of information to locals like hey this badass group will be at x location and you need to stay out of the way. All the terrorist show up and then helicopters come in and blast everyone away.

Just a chess game really.
However now that it's MISO, it really is just flyers that say gay memos.

Still there are some badass people depending which battalion you are in.
>http://www.psywarrior.com/3rdpob.html
You're thinking of these guys though, the "media" experts. Pretty gay DESU.

Stop being fucking fat

>>134601991
This

>>134595181
Guarantee? Really??

Sheeiitt.

- t. white SF stemcuck

>>134592870
good response

>>134592180
This this this this this

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>>134587680

1. the first thing they teach you in boot camp is to pay attention to detail

2. the second thing is accepting responsibility, particularly if you are slow to to catch onto # 1

3. is accountability, once you understand # 1 and # 2, you'll learn to hold yourself accountable, and others accountable with an eye for fairness

then you can be a part of a team (which is what the service is all about )

>>134601281
Avlb Thats my shit right there 12boomboom

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>>134592870

I always show up late to these threads

>>134602518
this

>>134601827

>opsec for shit that happened years ago

I'm stunned by how retarded the average response to this guy has been ITT

>>134599944
The hajis thought all sorts of crazy shit about our gear, they thought gatorade was a litteral chemical coolant we used on ourselves and with RFID jamming blocking call in IEDs they thought we had forcefields and they would wrap electrical tape and cloth around rpg ordinance

I came to the quick realisation that I'm not the main character in some, rich, over-arching story, instead I'm a small useful piece of a larger entity, made up of other smaller and hopefully useful pieces. That's how the best militaries are organised anyway, so a community of contributors with a chain of command is probs the only way you'd survive a SHTF situation.

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Trust no one.

>>134600770
>every single one of those groups has 2 or 3 federal agents pretending to be members.

yup

and if shtf it's going to be martial law nationwide indefinitely. maybe a day or two of riots depending on the spark that sets it off, but more likely people just hunker down and wait for the food trucks to arrive before all out ww3

it's good to be able to survive on one's own, and having a food/water supply is a great idea considering how dependent we all are on supply chains, but it's not a long term solution

survival in ww3 means finding a very deep bunker and hoping the russians can't get to it

aim high; related?

>>134150424

>>134601686
Sorry, Ramadi was in 15. Was an "advisor" to the iraqi army as they were assaulting ISIS there. Really just ended up doing tons of overwatch for the SEALs while they raided stuff and did BDAs on strikes. Was with 7th marines technically, but my squad was detached and loaned to the SEALs as a security, QRF, and Overwatch detail the entire time.

Ramadi wasnt as bad as sangin. Fuck sangin. I was so glad when I heard nolegs had been retrograded. Accidentally wrote my career backwards. Did my first pump to sangin, got fucked up, got sent to TTECG for a while. Got mostly better. Begged my way back into my old unit just in time to extend for a year and catch a pump to iraq to deal with ISIS where we ended up as tag-alongs for the SEALs.

>>134604016
Well we did have some sneaky stuff im not sposed to talk about going on that might give them reason to distrust their ammo suppliers. You know what I mean.

Silver arrow.

>>134604689
>this disappoints the burger

why?

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>>134587680

>want to join the military
>afraid of anthrax vaccine tho

I know a guy who says he developed auto immune disorders like chrohns and RA shortly after the shot. I began reading about it and I guess it's not rare for that shot to fuck people up

Any anons have the shot and are not suffering?

>>134600844

imagine being able to fight for something you actually believed in

>>134601540

>Always treat the least hurt first. Tourniquet wounds that need them first

isn't this contradictory?

what's the logic in treating the least hurt first?

and this;

>treat minor wounds to increasing severity

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>>134605100

>be Nazi
>want to join American(?) military

why?

>>134605045
Cuz it will stop working if people who were read in on the project blab about it. Most of the "secret" shit is pretty banal tho.

"Hey if you see this box with dohhickeys stickin outta it dont touch it. You will now sign a non-disclosure agreement and promise not to tell people you know about the secret box unless theyre gonna try to touch it."

It performs some stupid function like stealing cellphone data for intel purposes or records footsteps with seismographic data to figure out how many people move through the area etc etc.

They give you a series of challenge and pass phrases to determine if the person youre talking to is allowed to know about the secret box or not. If they cant return the responses in the proper order they dont need to know about the secret box and you havent given away anything except that theres something they dont need to know.

Occaisionally they need people to do menial chores for their secret sneaky bullshit and tell you just enough to do what they need you to. Grunts get around to all the fucky shitholes nobody else goes to regularly so they sometimes recruited us NCOs to do shit for em while we were out there.

>>134605468
this. You realize your platoon is gonna be nothing but nogs right?

>>134605468

Because I need to learn how to fight, security forces seems like a good route to get a lot of training and not risk getting blown up by a haji

>>134605100
Intestinal problems are pretty general in the soldier force from the mass amounts of pills and vaccines upon enlistment, SRP and pre deployment shit.

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>>134605742

that's not what I was talking about, really. just that the geopolitical goals of the United States government, which you would be serving, don't overlap very much with national socialism.

>>134605321

Because you don't try to save someone during a firefight, you do it afterwards.

So you keep the people who can still fight alive, and try to save the heavily wounded by applying tourniquets and hope you make it to a medic before they bleed out or lose a limb.

You lose 1 but save the other five.

>>134605977
yet

>>134606140
>WEW

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>>134601540
I dont know what youtube videos have made you stupid but you obviously have never been in a certified CLS course, you litter amputations first, chest wounds next, and triage concious patients from there. AVPU anybody not obviously injured but not aparently with it.

>>134606141

Trump vs Deep State wet dreams aside, I don't see things changing that drastically until long after anon would finish his deployment.

>>134606140
Theyve been doing that since viet nam.

>>134591134
I have my water stored as steam and let it carry me.

>>134603978
Yea because sharing you buddies pic on a Chinese basket weaving forum when most of the world hates you is a good idea. If you wanna post your war face and get doxed go on and do it sapper but leave your buddies out of it. You sir get the blue falcon award for the day. Ya Fucking moron

>>134605933

I already have a fairly weak stomach. This concerns me. I don't want to cripple myself for 4 years of service

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>>134606309
chub just thinking bout it lad

let the Puerto ricans fight overseas
Siege hardened Loyalist paramilitary whites fill those slots when it's done.

Fill C.O.G. with white nationalists
Donald Sheev Trump

>>134604484
There's been battles there since the beginning just reffering to one that had happened in 05 or 06 during our second rotation

>>134605928
only thing you are gonna learn is polishing rocks for most part unless you deploy

>>134605100
Didn't have any problems with it but know several people who did. One guy broke out in a crazy ass rash and got chartered out shortly after.

>>134606840
You have the squeaky annoying tone of a boot or a POG. Our pictures are already fucking everywhere anyways thanks to news crews and assorted magazine photographers who liked to follow us off into the desert. Literally nobody cares outside of the NCO who uses such retardation as an excuse to haze you.

>>134607095
Naw, wasnt on that one.

>>134598090
You or someone you knew had a bad experience in a black or Mexican unit? Can you elaborate more on racial politics in the military?

What I Learned.
Don't be friends with an idiot.
Carry more water.
Full auto is stupid.
Protect your ears/Listen.
Everybody else but the guys around you are enemies.

>>134588994
This is probably the best one. You can't really learn it as your average civilian though.

In the military there's no excuse of "oh I couldn't get the job done because I didn't have X or because Y was fucked up or Z wasn't doing their job". You have to learn to adapt and overcome with the materials and resources you're given at the time.

>>134607202
i take that back, because the americans that deployed here also polished rocks in my battalion

>>134607717
It doesnt matter what country's military or what the purpose of deployment is. There are ALWAYS rocks that need polished.

>if its shiny salute it
>if it doesnt move pick it up
>if it cant be picked up clean it

>>134588839
Marine enlisted aircrew here, only a small percentage of us get to go to SERE training. I'll guess 10%. I did not get to go. The rest of us just get the powerpoint/online test.

I cant think of anything super sekrit that you guys may want to know. Ask your answers and maybe I can fill in some
blanks. As aircrew I get exposed to a lot more secret shit than your average joe. I've been inside one of Saddam's private facilities.

>>134607423
Oh shit he called me a pog Thats it game over man cease fire. Raise the white flag. The new age social media military has defeated me. Let me find my stress card I literally ca not handle this verbal abuse I am physically shaking...

>>134588839
This guys right. We never learned anything except to shit in an ammo can lined with a trash bag for easy disposal.

MREs, firepower and teamwork win

t. Tanker (19k) US Army

>>134590091
BELT FED OOOOOOOOH RAH

>>134600844
The only fighting you have done is fighting get a shit stain out of my toilet.

>>134599200
shut the fuck up faggot im sure youre the obnoxious microdick no one liked

>>134608125
Gotta keep the crate the cans come in broad helluva lot more comfortable to sit on and can be strapped flat virtually anywhere

>>134602518
The only thing I learned in boot camp that actually mattered (besides how to shoot a rifle and obvious shit, I'm talking about the "boot camp-isms") is screaming as loud as you can. In a firefight you gotta be screaming at the top of your fucking lungs man or you're gonna get someone killed

>>134608125
>not peeing in a gatorade bottle and shitting in an MRE bag then throwing it into the Iraq desert/persian gulf

>>134608001
it was fuggen weird to have other nations being in my battalion, brits, germs and dutch were drunk while we would have been thrown to the brig for that. americans were polishing rocks and smoking on the parade ground while we would have been exucated for that. only lithuanias were like us but thats probably because they probably were conscripts as well

>>134608003
Haha faggot ass pog who thinks he's high speed because he has a secret clearance

>>134608551
Thats what the Kool-aid pack were for man also saved every pork chop mre I could get just to hand them out to hajj

>>134608551
>leaving target indicators

We packed out our wag bags and piss bottles and brought em back to the FOB. Compromise is failure

>>134592870
This faggot. I work in East Oakland, you cunt, you don't know bad smells.

>>134608895
On a light patrol or reckon I could understand but in a convoy or qrf why Fucking bother

>>134604016
>RFID jamming blocking call in IEDs

This was my idea.

>>134608093
No. Youre just being a fuckin pest with no relevant input.

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>>134587680
The biggest take-away from the Army... 7 years in intel guy who went ranger with 4 combat missions.

Women are whores and Jodie will always be there to fuck your woman when you're not. Even if Jodie doesnt get them your cunt wife will get drunk lonely and cheat 10000%. Every single one. single is better for the warrior. Fuck prostitutes when you can but wrap it up.

Iraq and Afghanistan show how a future civil war would be unwinnable. Guerilla and insurgent tactics / attacks coupled with IED knowledge makes you a huge threat with limited resources. Cant kill an enemy you cant identify.

Your DD-214 is gold

Trust no one except people you've almost died with or you know are willing to die next to you

Intelligence and accurate information drives missions. This is key because bad information will get you killed

Civilian gear is usually better than milspec bullshit. Had a pair of merrel shoes last through 3 deployments. Rocky terrain and multiple missions a day. Something underrated and valuable that you can buy now is a drone. It can go where you cannot.

Buy multiple firearms and train with them all to see what you like best and do the best with. They are tools and serve a specific function so every one is used with different intentions in mind. If you buy an AR-15, gas impingement is bullshit and you'll clean your rifle everytime you shoot it. go piston.

Operate when weather is shit no one expects it and likewise expect the worst of shit to happen when the weather is nice.

Dont forget your PT belt faggots.

>>134609382
combat tours* not missions. Cant even count all those

>>134591134
KEKEKEKEKEKEK

It reminds me when older guys in school would make the younger go to the store and ask for powdered electricity.

>>134608741
>IF I KEEP SAYING POG HE'LL GIVE A SHIET EHHHEEHEHEHHEE
Fuck off niggerfaggot my job was objectively cooler than yours

>>134608895
Im talking about throwing the junk out at 10,000ft my negreo

>>134609355

He's trying to look out for you.

I'm a delayed entry waiting to go to boot camp so I don't know yet S:

>>134609382
The milspec shit. Oh my god. People dont realise military gear is made by the lowest bidder. Mil-spec doesnt mean tough and effective. It means cheap, too heavy, and always broken.

Private sector is def the way to go.

Also intel drives ops, not ops driving intel. It really really fuckin sucks when instead of interpreting the intel and making decisions the brass start only listening to the intel that agrees with their wishful thinking and making you do stupid wild goose chases to try to prove themselves right.

Also the difference between info and intel. Info is "theres taliban somewhere over there. They got guns. Theyre selling heroin."

Intel is "theres between 25 to 35 taliban at this specific location. They have AK-47's and PKMs and atleast 1 RPG. They are selling heroin to finance smuggling operations, which is stored in this specific building and this guy (photo, name, aliases, identifying features, and usual locations) is the one in charge of it."

Info is unvetted, vagur and unanalysed. Intel is specific, vetted, and useful for a specific application. If you cannot craft a detailed plan with it its not intel. If you cannot verify its accuracy its bad intel.

Also:
>BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR A WHITE TOYOTA COROLLA

fucking 75% of the cars in the middle east are fucking white toyota corollas. Thanks S2. Ill be sure to report the 375 white toyota corollas I see today.

>>134591773
A good sturdy pack. If it has molle straps you'll get additional functionality. A hand pump filter, good quality, sturdy and of high quality. Comms means (even a simple walkie talkie can be useful). Powerful flashlight with lots of spare batteries. Redundancies for everything. A good tarp with bungie cords. zip ties. Cord. A good knife. Knife sharpener. Duct tape / 100mph tape. More of a bugout bag list, but longevity and redundancy are always things to think about, as well as how you're going to carry it all. Great question.

>>134610134

>Also intel drives ops, not ops driving intel.

Always depends how you interpret it too. How many people it went through before it was written down, etc.

Can be a crapshoot

>>134592544
>our vessels can see everything
>U.S. destroyer failed to dodge a cargo ship
pick one

>>134610134
>fucking 75% of the cars in the middle east are fucking white toyota corollas. Thanks S2. Ill be sure to report the 375 white toyota corollas I see today.

I mean, we have millions of tracers in 7.62 and in .50, why not just light all the white toyotas up?

>>134608003
Finally a good thread. Anybody know of any books that get a civvie up on the basics that would be practical in a real life situation? Someone could make a lot of money teaching that (prob already is). Like the 80/20 rule, prob a set of fundamentals that can be learned quickly

>>134592544
>nauts

>>134610402
intentional integrity test obvi

>>134610728
Ranger handbook is readily avalible

>>134609600
>get new private
>(best salty NCO voice)
>"listen up ya daggon friggin devil dog, I fuckin need ya to fuckin listen up ya fuckin trackin? Yer gonna fuckin go to the fuckin PX and get me some fuckin grid squares. You fuckin trackin devil?"
>"AYE SERGEANT!" Scurries off to attempt to find one
>(for those who dont know land nav, grid squares are a unit of measurement, not a physical object)
>comes back 3 hours later
>PX knew the joke, sent him to the comissary
>comissary, also apparently in on the joke sent him to battalion supply
>battalion sent him to regimental duty officer
>redimental duty officer pretended to be pissed off that he didnt know grid squares are stored in company supply right next to the asmuths, humvee keys (humvees have a sart switch, dont use keys), and dehydrated water
>Private goes there and some lance criminal tells him theyre all out of grid squares
>private, still unaware he spent 3 hours walking all over 29 palms mainside in july searching for a unit of measurement reports that the company supply is out of them
>ask his entire story
>cant keep a straight face, laugh, explain why hes an idiot, applaud him for his tenacity and dedication to an imposdible task, send him away

>>134610890
Another great one is having them get chem light batteries or checking for for soft spots on an apc

>>134610890
Exhaust samples are another good one. Or 100 yards of flight line.

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>>134592180
Based leaf

>>134611158
We always sent the boots to supply to pick up ID 10 Tango forms or an extra Bravo Alpha 1100 November for the shop.

>>134611158
>>134610890
>>134611329

Buckets of prop wash.

>>134611158
>soft spots on an apc
...does the word 'armored' not clue them in?

>>134600770
Thanks for the real talk. I agree. "Do survival" for practical reasons and personal lulz, not to look cool. Tho the one thing groups like that have right is a group/network. Im no good at it but you gotta have one when shtf--no man is an island.

>>134611479
Bro, people stop thinking if you yell at them in an urgent fashion.

>>134611554
Especially a new private whose entire purpose in life is to do as they are told because they are disgusting evil pieces of filth

>>134611554
Especially boots. Something about basic and SOI. It just turns their brain inside out takes em like a year to start acting like normal adult humans again. You just gotta give em a stern look and they start stuttering and dropping shit and yelling "AYE SERGEANT!" to shit that doesnt even require that response.

>PRIVATE SCHMUCKATELLI! WTF ARE YOU DOING IN THAT CLOSET?
>AYE SERGEANT

Every fuckin time.

>>134591825
>>134593547

Proxy fagging leafs are never right

>>134611918
hurr durr kekistan is dumb.

Bitch I just talked to 2 kekistanis at a protest and they were damn near white nationalists. Let them have their fun.

>>134588839
>We have the best logistical chains of any nation.

no you dont, you just crippled every other western nations military with your (((influence)))). You got BTFO by German intelligence in ww2

I guess the most valuable thing to teach civilians is how to live off the grid (middle of nowhere).
The reason why:
1. the US military will never waste a drone strike on a single person or family.
2. Get out of any major city, or at least have a plan to get out of that city at a moment's notice. Both the Marine Corps, and the Army like to park their howitzers a few miles outside of the city and artillery the fuck out of it before they drive through it.
3. Marines hate certain kind of terrain, like swamps. We fucking hate swamps, so your best bet is to hide in the Louisiana bayou. We also hate extreme cold weather, so Alaska might be an option for you.
The moral of the story is, if you are enough of a pain in the ass, we'll just ignore you.

Any book that I should know of that covers survival/ military strategics?

>>134611849
>>134611873

I'm well aware, I was a sergeant in the Marine infantry. But it also works on normal people to a lesser extent if you use the right tone.

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>>134598090
>kiss your ads goodbye.
damn, getting demonetized on top of being radiated to death...
war never changes

>>134612209
>Marines hate certain kind of terrain, like swamps.

Because it reminds you too much of Nam.

I used to go on /b/ years ago and served in Afghanistan. Anything you think you need you don't need. Any physical item will only slow you down. By the end of my tour I only wore a plain top, pants, boots and two 20rnd magazines and a bottle of water. In any survival situation you always want to be light, agile and fast. I was bare feet during urban sweeps to reduce noise.

>>134609170
Yeah I'm an 0317 though so that shit was drilled into my skull when I was a pig. Never been closer to a dude than when youre holding an MRE bag under his ass while he shits in it

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>>134612223
Pardon me leather neck. Here have a (you)
>not crayon flavored

>>134612223
NCO voice is a powerful thing. Especially if coupled with an authority pose. Its wierd but standing straight, staring intesley right at thier forehead, having your left fist clenched and having the other in a knife hand jabbing agressivley as punctuation and like 75% of random idiots will essentially just do whatever you just screamed at them to do without thinking.

Alternativley it might start a fight if theyre tough enough or quick enough on thier feet to realise they arent actually obligated to obey you.

>>134609662
>my job is cooler than yours

Such pog words have seldom been utteted

>>134612444
>By the end of my tour I only wore a plain top, pants, boots and two 20rnd magazines and a bottle of water.

This is because you had a fob to go back to everytime you leave the wire.

The insurgents learned to travel like nomads because their hideouts tend to get droned.

>>134587680
I'm not in the military but I have seen things that only the most """elite""" know about.

>>134612209
I dont know what youre talking about. I called air strikes in on single dudes all the time.

>>134612548
Damn you guys take it to far. I suppose this is why Yall put your names on your ass. But I get ya

>>134612562
Its not our fault. If they didnt want us to eat em they shouldnt make them in such bright and appealing colors, or atleast put em in childproof containers.....

>>134612824
Audible kek

Ok i learned this

Hit someone in the jaw and they drop

Stab them in the heart and they get paralyzed¨

Stabbing them in the heart from the armhole is the easiest for sneak Ops

When working for someone outside the military being serious and saying ''It will be done'' often earns you promotions 10x faster

Starring in your own eyes every morning for minutes grounds you

Have a warrior POV of things and they will be done easier

Jesus the lord can do miracles through you

>>134612794
Sniper teams gotta sanitize their hides when their done. Can't let hajjis know where we've been shooting em from

>>134590091
You are vastly underestimating the will of American good ole boys in the Midwest and South.

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I'll ask again because this has piqued my interest and I just finished a book.

>Any book that I should know of that covers survival/ military strategics?

I have no faith in the world staying stable, i give it no more than 20 years before shit starts to unravel. I'm in college doing Mechanical Engineering so i'm already learning a useful skill.

>>134587680
What are those U shaped dirt formations called ? What is their goal ?

>>134610890

And this is why I didn't join the military.

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>>134605281
Believe in what? Getting crippled, burnt, paralyzed for the rich elite while they destroy your society?

Getting shot by illiterate Pashtun highlander peasant goatfucker on basically what could be another planet while meanwhile other people have fun, love, party and fuck? Go back home only to meet with lack of understanding and loathing from the very same people whose interests I supposedly fought to protect?

People who go into miliary are either cynical opportunists, poor, dumb or brainwashed, there is no excuse, it's not my problem your lack mental capabilities to validate your existence with anything else. The only thing worth believing was always one's own personal interest, just as the rich do. I leave voluntary serfdom for people who were too stupid to do anything else and there is always enough of those fucking animals around.

'Thank you for your service' defending 'western civilization', I just can't wait to see next Pride parade with US embassy personnel in it, you mongoloid troglodyte mercenaries

>>134613074
I DO hate how marines cant take a joke and get all "hard charger" about that shit. My dad was airforce and we rib eachother endlessly on it.
>you fuckin chair jockey pog mother fucker!
>FUCK YOU! when you fuckin jarheads get in the shit you get on the radio ymscreamin for 2 things! Yer mommies and air support

>oh yeah? How many airmen does it take to change a lightbulb
>"HOW MANY WISE ASS?"
>only one. But he's gonna need half the annual defense budget, a signed work order, 2 phone calls to the manufacturer, and a full inventory of the supply closet first.
>we both laugh

Interservice rivalry is supposed to be fun

>>134590091

So I can't shoot 10 guys just standing there while 5 explosions go off with just enough force to dramatically flutter my hair but leave me completely unharmed as a do a war cry for the camera?

......why is reality so lame?

>>134613145
no (you's) ? I was expecting something

>>134612722

Yeah... there is an endless supply of videos on youtube and liveleak of strikes being called in on lone snipers and gunmen. The airforce LITERALLY has nothing better to do than to respond to every call. I shit you not. Heck you could probably find an online radio chatter site that broadcasts radio signals in Syria right now of the airforce begging for targets.

>>134613650
Warcries usually sound less inspiring in real life, mostly just sound scared shitless.

>>134613749
Bullshit. The Air Force going on calls cuts into golf time.

>>134613749
The flyboys get so bored they WILL drop as much ordinance as possible on ANYTHING they are cleared to drop on.

>>134613560
True. I'm like LT Dan. I've had family members in damn near every war we have been in from all different branches and all fuck with eachother. Gave my uncle who was a scout sniper a coloring book for his birthday few years back. He took a round to the dome in desert storm and tell him all the time had he been a soldier instead it may have been fatal we laugh then he cries then we drink

>>134599593
THIS
This is very very true, all the research I made up until this point (a lot of it) indicates this. If SHTF and you don't have a group of 20 ppl your odds don't look good. Of course anything can happen (you may even get lucky and survive alone), but having the odds in your favor is what prepping is all about.

>>134609382
Never served, but from what I hear people thinking of joining should definitely listen to the truthbomb about Jodi...Probably make a man useless in a situation with that in the back of his head.

Also cheers about the Drone bit.
Was thinking about getting one a while back...Might start looking again.

>>134587680
>Military anons of /pol/, what did you learn in the military that civilians should know?

That 90% of the time is spent waiting for something to do/waiting in line for something/waiting for COB formation so you can go home/waiting in line at the range/walking in a line with a heavy ruck sack on/waiting in line for chow.

90% of the military outside of SOF is spent waiting. And even at Ft Lewis/JBLM when I went through medical before Iraq I saw SF guys waiting in line too.

>>134590091
literally takes 10,000 shots fired for 1 KIA. if shit is going down it's going to be done with swords and bows. it's going to up close and personal. real hell.

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>>134614068
Answer my question >>134613260
and answer sven's question >>134613145

>>134613145
>Have a warrior POV of things and they will be done easier
Because it gives you this vision of achieving higher than yourself
>Jesus the lord can do miracles through you
Through him the warrior vision becomes more clear and it reinvigorates your spirit. God bless my friend.

>>134613675
>>134613145
Here's your (you) for mentioning our lord

>>134614380
0 atheists in a foxhole

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>>134612562

>>134614293

>real hell

CQC is the best, that's where you really get adrenaline

>>134600464
What was some of the most interesting things you did as MISO? Or do you just try to befriend the locals so they give you intel?

>>134590091
I eat lead for breakfast and shit body armor

Youre a pussy that wouldnt be fit to feed my cat

>>134611424

Enjoy having your face blown off. That design looks sketchy as fuck.

>>134600770
Best thing is to have a big family (at least 20 ppl), an homestead compound far away from anyone and prepare to stop a big group (1000+) of well armed thugs (if SHTF, cities are going to dry fast and eventually big ass gangs will roam the rural side looking for a place to settle).

>>134591134
>Dehydrated water powder
Alex Jones has a new business idea.

>>134610802
This

There are no accidents in the military. ISIS was allowed to exist.

>>134600464

sounds like fun though.

>>134612209
>Go innawoods and get away from hundreds of thousands of panicing desperate useful idiots with no moral compass
Duh

Bugout bags and shitting in boxes.

>>134609382
Body armor and carriers are under $500 and ship to almost any Americans door within weeks

Ar500.com

Just remember that shit is heavy

>>134592544
>I can illegally tell you a Nimitz class can push 90 nauts while the official speed is only 30

Bullshit, unless they get the thing up on plane like a fucking speedboat.

>>134613260

>20 years

nigger we probably don't have 20 months the way things are going now

>>134612444
Why not get a plate carrier and 10lbs worth of ceramic body armor?

Cheapish, light, has pouches to carry stuff and protects your vitals from everything except 50 cal

>>134592870
>War is stupid. It wastes billions and billions on equipment that never gets used. It skims the best most virile, intelligent, fit, and motivated individuals and grinds em up. Either kills em or burns them out and evicts them from societey. Its clumsy, dirty, dangerous and honestly not even very interesting to watch.

it's almost as if the soldiers are "serving" a force greater than themselves. look, the elites in government and business need war in order to stay in control. this game is older than time. it's just the way that the world works. honestly, if there were world peace, then it would just mean that the billionaires in power could keep all that money to themselves instead of spending it on soldiers' wages.

>>134608003
How fucked are things anon?

>>134613145
Its actually stab someone in the kidney and they cant scream... the diaphram freezes up and gives a few second window to perform a silent takedown

Or at least thats what some special forces dudes told me

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heres one for the ages for /pol/

>>134614450
This

>Tfw been in the Navy for 14 months now
>for 9 of those months, I've literally been paid to do nothing all day
>wake up at 730, drive on base for muster, home by 9
>play video games and go kayaking all day
>get to wear pajamas to work on the days I have to actually do something

Best decision ever

>>134613505

soldiers have always existed to protect the public, our families, etc. it's not just the rich

not all the rich are bad or degenerate either and degeneracy is a problem that extends from the bottom to the top.

the next world war will clean the place up, and afterwards we will need warriors still

>>134591825
Best post of the day

>>134614770

it's not going to happen like this

as long as the the military exists there will be martial law nationwide. if the military doesn't exist, ww3 happened and if you just ran innawoods neither do you

it's like you guys are preparing for ww2 again. it's not going to be like that

it's not a tv show. the weapons they have now will melt mountains, aim high>>134604466

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>>134601175
>Three foot pieces of thick wire with rags tied to it placed in a field will fuck up a landing helicopter.
Can you draw that for me?

>>134616543
Nukes are exaggerated fear propaganda

>>134615087

>>Go innawoods and get away from hundreds of thousands of panicing desperate useful idiots with no moral compass

it's fair enough, you don't want to stay in the city when things get bad. but there are not going to be gangs of thousands of people like mad max or whatever this anon is referring to>>134614770

more likely you'll want to get out just so you're not trapped

>>134615647

Lose mobility from it. You're always jumping concrete walls or crouching through crevices. When enough bullets fly around you stop caring about getting shot.

>>134615770

nah Saddam was really proliferating WMDs

don't be so cynical

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/16/world/cia-is-said-to-have-bought-and-destroyed-iraqi-chemical-weapons.html

>>134616684
Its like if someone yells fire in a movie theatre

You want to get outside first and not be one of the stampeding crowd caught in the chaos of blocked roads and robbers/muggers

>>134616785
Archive the shills
https://archive.is/uhZ0S

>>134616054
Future sailor here. Whats your rate shipm8

>>134616777
True and checkkked but just simple front/back plates hardly seem to get in the way unless you are prone crawling a football field

What about thermal/night vision?

>>134616785
9/11 was allowed to happen

Nukes are propaganda fear weapons

>>134592870
>It skims the best most virile, intelligent, fit, and motivated individuals and grinds em up. Either kills em or burns them out and evicts them from society

All according to (((our))) plan.

In a fight, don't think, let your instincts take over. You spend a second to think your already dead.
When the adrenaline and fight kicks in, everything goes matrix, 2 mins seems seems like 2 hours.

Also combat isn't like how you may think, usually your shooting as guys too far away for you at actully aim and hit. It's often several guy sitting behind a wall or defensed area taking pot shots at each other until one can suppress the other and move forward

>>134616674

nukes are ~75 years old man

the stuff they have now that's unclassified would blow the minds of most people, and god only knows what classified tech they've developed in the last few years/decades

>The United States possesses more space weaponry than any other country

http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/08/09/the-u-s-military-is-preparing-for-the-real-star-wars

>Russia reveals new generation satellite to fight war in space

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/476182/Russia-developing-star-wars-space-weapons

>two secret Soviet programs, "Mercury" and "Volcano", aimed at developing a "tectonic weapon" that could set off earthquakes from great distance

>US Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen, said..."Others are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tectonic_weapon#Reports

>"We are talking about autonomous weapons, which means that there is no one behind it. AI: artificial intelligence weapons," he told a forum in Davos. "Very precisely, weapons that can locate and attack targets without human intervention."

http://phys.org/news/2016-01-killer-robots-late-scientists-davos.html

>Russia crafting line of ‘dragonfly’ drones

http://tass.com/defense/902921

>He said: “This is like earthquakes, you should think in order of magnitudes. If you can kill 10 people that’s a one, 100 people that’s a two... Bioterrorism is the thing that can give you not just sixes, but sevens, eights and nines.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/17/biological-terrorism-could-kill-people-nuclear-attacks-bill

nines - that's billions

nukes will probably start the next war. eg. Paris blows up, DC blows up, martial law, then we wait a little while for actual war to begin

>What would happen if terrorists exploded a crude nuclear bomb in Washington DC?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t98PD6KCg2Q

>>134616674
>>134617097

>NSA chief says 'when, not if' foreign country hacks U.S. infrastructure

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-cyber-nsa-idUSKCN0W35M8

>Cell Phones, Microwaves And The Human Health Threat

>The microwaves that cell phones emit can interact with human tissue in an entirely new way, says theoretical biologist at a government lab

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/423871/cell-phones-microwaves-and-the-human-health-threat

>THE EFFECT OF MICROWAVES ON THE CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM

https://ecfsapi.fcc.gov/file/7521095727.pdf

>It is therefore possible to manipulate the nervous system of a subject by pulsing images displayed on a nearby computer monitor or TV set

https://www.google.com/patents/US6506148

etc.

21 year old Canadian who just lost his welding job. Is joining leaf army worth it or no? I heard Trudeau threw more money into the military so its a good time. I don't wanna be a Zogbot but I'm depressed and too Christian to commit suicide so I figure that the army is the best option I got.

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>>134587680
a lot
fist you learn the shut up, listen and do what you are told because your opinion isent worth that much
then you learn how to handel physical and mental stress
you learn to work and function with a minimal amount of sleep, no privacy and no leisure time
bonus if you are cadre:
you learn to plan, improvise, lead and organise

>>134614266
>90% of the military outside of SOF is spent waiting.

But that's not what my friendly highschool recruiter said!

>>134616975

>9/11 was allowed to happen

9/11 is something of a mystery. there are theories that Russia was involved. I'm inclined to believe that;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayman_al-Zawahiri#Alleged_activities_in_Russia

regarding nukes, see >>134617097
>>134617138

also;

>It is believed that Russian researchers used reverse transcriptase-PCR to create a DNA copy of the Ebola virus and then spliced the genes encoding key virulence factors into the unnecessary regions of the smallpox genome.

>Alibek believes that this chimera, which he has named Ebolapox, would be capable of causing hemorrhagic smallpox, the most fatal form of the disease, in all infected individuals

https://books.google.com/books?id=AwkVgNPRnKoC

>Novichok is a series of nerve agents that were developed by the Soviet Union in the 1970s and 1980s. Allegedly these are the most deadly nerve agents ever made

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novichok_agent

fucking nightmare is coming, nukes are the last of our worries. this is book of revelations type shit

In a fight, don't think, let your instincts take over. You spend a second to think your already dead.
When the adrenaline and fight kicks in, everything goes matrix, 2 mins seems seems like 2 hours.

Also combat isn't like how you may think, usually your shooting as guys too far away for you at actully aim and hit. It's often several guy sitting behind a wall or defensed area taking pot shots at each other until one can suppress the other and move forward
Also killing isn't as bad as you may think. The gore can be gross, but as your in fight mode, your not really thinking out it, cap the guy and keep moving.

women in the military is a mistake
Nothing but morale droppers
If they're not whores, they're pregnant
If they're not either, they're whiny bitches who can't get the simplest shit done
The majority of all blanket punishments stem from women whether it be pt failures, forced anti rape training, poor decisions from having women in leadership, leniency and favoritism, which leads to more unnecessary training in professional relationships which doesn't get followed whatsoever. The only time I've seen a useful woman is either as a nurse or a lunch lady in the mess
I assume much is the same for civilians

>>134616943

In shitholes like Afghanistan there isn't a lot of light pollution so your eyes can adjust to the night time easily and the moon illuminates it all better, only time you'll find yourself using NV is indoors.

>>134617095
Stupid Mimi said it dident post, ignore the copied text

>>134612033
> America got BTFO by German intelligence in ww2

Wut. Enigma. All German base. Ok that was England and Poland, but, in what way did German intelligence prevail?

>>134615865
>they allow blackface in the military

>>134591825

Im confused, why is this canuck making sense here?

>>134600891
So hypothetically, if a foreign military managed to invade and occupy the US, they could use the Interstate/highway system to against us to expedite troop movement?

I KNEW IT.

You know what I learned from my time in the Air Force fixing jets? Fuck everyone who isn't you. Lie, but only when you know you won't be caught. Do whatever it takes to meet quotas, even if it endangers the mission. Use everyone around you as a stepping stone for your own success. Forego your own training to supplement your desirability on paper by doing extracurricular bullshit instead of your job.

If you can't read between the lines there, what I'm saying is that the military is hot garbage and anything they teach is useless.

If you want to know valuable tactical information and basic concepts of fieldcraft, study established guerrilla tactics and insurgency efforts as well as the long established concepts developed by SERE during the 60s.

>>134591134
dehydrated water powder: just add water!

>>134617396
>Also combat isn't like how you may think, usually your shooting as guys too far away for you at actully aim and hit. It's often several guy sitting behind a wall or defensed area taking pot shots at each other until one can suppress the other and move forward

Even 50metres is pretty hard to hit as well. No one ever says "I got him in my sights, I killed him"

It's always

>i think ones dead
>did you shoot him
>no i thought you did
>is he actually dead?
>idk shoot him again
>yeah hes dead
>did you grab the savoys and dip?
>no i left it in the truck
>did you cover the dip up? i dont want fly shit in it
>yeah i think so

>>134604689
>Well we did have some sneaky stuff im not sposed to talk about going on that might give them reason to distrust their ammo suppliers.

so you spiked Muhameds ammo?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62Bi3RPz_2E

>>134587680
>Honor!
>Integrity!

>Tell your superiors what they want to hear!
>Toe the line or else!

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>>134617396
>>134617095
>>134617490

good advice anon

btw, you can delete posts

click the box to the left, and then go to bottom right of the page

>>134616054
Yeah and when you get out? What skills will you have?

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Military Anons-I wonder how you feel about your fellow soldiers posing as ISIS and helping the enemy?

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>>134617365
>(((russia muh)))
Gas yourself CIA nigger

>>134618268
>ISIS
>the enemy of america
you've been consuming too much american propaganda

>>134618147
>Tell your superiors what they want to hear!
... Even lie him?

>>134600891
>Weigh stations double as traffic control points
>not preparing every bit of your infrastructure to blow up
http://www.businessinsider.com/switzerlands-military-defenses-2012-6

>>134617471
Can verify this. Always got yelled at in Afghanistan on night patrols with 80-100% illum for not wearing NVGs. Shit was annoying, if you let your eyes adjust it's fine, plus the upside is that if someone is hiding off the road or in a random qalat, at least it'll come as a surprise Haha. I quite seriously stopped giving a fuck altogether on my second go round.

>>134591825
>it's a bigger tell that the poster is an utter faggot than a canadian flag is

Surpassing a leaf in faggotry is not possible.

Trudeau is proof.

>>134592625
>50 Scuds into Iraq

I see what you did there.

>>134591825
Truth

>>134613260
Mattis' Reading List

>http://smallwarsjournal.com/blog/ltgen-james-mattis-reading-list

Great thread, except for the trolls that call everyone who offered their experiences LARPers.....Whether your posing or not...I enjoyed the stuff y'all said.....

>>134590394
>>134590707
>>134601827

So what have you done?