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All "pagans" are obviously LARPing. However: are christians

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All "pagans" are obviously LARPing. However: are christians on here LARPing or do they actually genuinely believe in god?
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>>134584017
I believe in God.
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>>134584319
>Flag
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>>134584017
Sweden needs God more than anywhere else.
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Idiot. Paganism comes under many forms and why wouldn't there be real pagans here? I for one, believe that the sun is "father" and Earth is "mother"
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>>134584017
I believe in God, but I'm kind of alone over here

French churches are empty except for some really old people, and me
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>>134585073
>I for one, believe that the sun is "father" and Earth is "mother"
That is some nigger level stupidity. Stop pretending to be deep and complex, nobody is buying your bullshit.
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>>134584017
Pol is a Christian board . Only new fags don't know this.


Lurk Moar
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>>134590011
Not anymore, christcuck. Look at me. I'm god now.
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>>134590011
>Pol is a Christian board .

Hahahahaha!
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Acknowledge white history undeniably linked to Christianity.

Belief in the stories not as important to me
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>>134584017
Even if you believe in God and all of that stuff, you're pretty much LARPing as a Christian if you have a lot of /pol/-tier beliefs, like shitting on poorfags.
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>>134584017
Prove to me that there's no god.
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>>134584017
It's not LARPing when your belief is widely regarded as being socially acceptable.

Christianity has been popular for over 2000 years, that's basically proof that our God is real and the pagan """gods""" are fake.
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A good Christian walks among the lepers. What better place for it than 4chan?
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>>134584017
you dont larp when it comes to such serious matters
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>>134585073
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>>134590683
Delivered.
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Which god ?

> LARPing
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>>134584017
I can't prove whether there is a god or not and I most certainly cannot prove which god is the right one of if there is only one or many, but we need a banner to unite under to defend ourselves against the threat of Islam and Christianity is our best option in that case
plus: it is part of our heritage and has influenced western civilization both culturally and morally a lot more than the average atheist would like to admit
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>>134590683
wrong picture, attached correct one.
>bad people exist
>god has power
>why does god let bad people exist
?? a) not all powerful or b) not all good
Can god make a stone so heavy he cannot lift it?
>itsover.jpg
If your christcuck is so good, why isn't the world perfect?
inb4 it's a test
Sounds like female logic to me. Are you a feminist?
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>>134584017
Fundamentalist batpist
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>>134591260
If the christcuck is the best option you've got, you lose.
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>>134584017
I believe in God.
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>>134591260
Christianity is a cucked religion that failed to protect us. Going back to some kind of paganism might be a good idea.
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>>134591423
show me a better alternative then
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Yes, people on /pol/ """""""""'believe in god"""""""""""""""""" in the sense that they say he exists but never actually act on any of the tenets of the Bible or even go to church every Sunday.
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>>134591351
Who decides what is bad? what YOU think is good and should be fair not god. God made a world with rules and laws even he does not break. ans what you call suffering is just part of it.
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>>134591560
>Christianity is a cucked religion that failed to protect us
it succeeded before
what makes you think paganism would do better?
not to mention christianity, unlike paganism, already has followers to summon up for the cause
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>>134584017
I do the Lords Prayer every morning, and every night and do believe in God

Every day I realize more and more that a Western world without God is doomed
It shaped us far to much to be so lightly thrown aside, because unlike non-Westerners we don't know how to live without Western values and we stray further and further every day from civilization
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>>134590683
No, you're the one that has to supply evidence here. I could say there's a ghost looking at you right now, and you can't prove me wrong. That doesn't mean there's a ghost looking at you though.
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>>134584017
Praise the Lord!

Sow your faith now before judgement day!
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>>134591351
God allows free will to his creation. Mankind's greatest enemy is himself. All of the problems facing mankind are directly caused by mankind.
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>>134591771
>God made a world with laws he cannot break
Then he is not god.
>suffering is good
Then go extinct; god says you have to suffer for hurting niggers.
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>>134584017
I believe in God and I'm not alone in my church, because the US isn't as cucked as Europe.
>MUH 52%
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>>134592137
>all of mankinds problems are caused by mankind
Then man can solve them and there is no need for god.
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>>134592282
cheer up man, it's more likely 56%
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>>134592249
why because its to hard for you lol. Going through hardship makes you strong like fire makes metal stronger.
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>>134585073
Do you really though? Do you honestly and completely believe that the earth has some sort of spiritual life energy/femininesoul/consciousness or something, or do you just say that to seem deep.
Christians and muslims actually believe there God is real, in their minds it's as factual as Washington DC being the capitol of the US. I have never met a "pagan" who came anywhere close to that sort of sincerity, for them it was all a LARP, to enjoy some mystery in the world and impress other people.
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>>134584017
Cultural Christian here. I generally follow most Christian tenets of morality (family values, sexual morality, etc), but I'm not exactly a believer, as I view God as a literal manifestation of human morality rather than a divine being. So, in a sense, the Church represents and enforces that morality by channeling the collective unconscious of civilization, or at least it's supposed to.
I also disregard desert goatfucker-tier """rules.""" Like the "don't insult bald men" stuff, and I find it impossible to both love my people and not hate those destroying it. So no 'love thy enemy' hippie stuff, either.
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>>134584730
Sweden, Ukraine, Germany...

well Paris or "france" also, but they I don't know about them
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>>134590330
H E R E S Y
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>>134592329
God created man--we could not exist without Him. His gift is that of life, and we can choose what to do with it. God guides us with His word, but we don't have to follow it.
I'm no theologian, but I think that would be the standard response.
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>>134592329
If that were true, our problems would be solved by now.
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>>134590108
we will just let you invade this board and give you a little bit more time until you get struck

inb4 its the same whats germany doing
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>>134592540
You don't believe in God, you are not Christian. Stop lying to yourself and to others.
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>>134592491
>hardship makes you stronger
Then the greatest hardship of all is knowing there is no divine hand to "guide" the world to it's correct destination; one must bear the weight of the now on his own shoulders and bring about change himself
>>134592498
I believe in dharma, the will of the universe. Do I come close to the requisite level of sincerity?
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>>134584017
Not LARPing
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>>134590330
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>>134592743
Well, I would never claim to BE Christian. But I was raised with very Christian-inspired values. That's all I meant, Mario.
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>>134592540
>love thy enemy' hippie stuff

I think it explicitly states you can kill them if they pose threat
Think the hippie rule stuff just applies to like someone you know who is dick
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>>134592282
>56%
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>>134592799
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deism
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>>134592704
is this heaven? no. So htere always will be problems
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>>134592695
>God created man
Except it's all but set in stone that we're evolved from apes.
>we don't have to follow his word
What makes it any different from Donald Trump's word then?

>>134592704
Whitey got in the way.

>>134592718
>Invade this board
You're getting your shitskins confused. I'm a Hindu pajeet; all I want is the same respect you give the chinks - not to be lumped in with mudshits and niggers.
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I believe in god but I'm not a christian. I just don't understand how the universe could exist without a god so I believe in him. I also think it's interesting how of all things on earth I could have been born as, the trillions of other organisms, that I was born as a human, the only relevant species. I don't know about if there is an after life, I'm gonna assume that there is not. If I could find a religion that didn't contradict itself and facts like dinosaurs, then I would be that religion.
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>>134584017
I believe Christianity was built by wise and intelligent men who knew God is a personification of truth and not a literal minded deity which exists somewhere.
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>>134592282
Europa believes in god, theyre just cucked, and they're triggered because they are cucked, nothing else to see here. All just because Hitler didn't won this sob.
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>>134592915
As long as you accept being an atheist it's ok I guess.
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>>134584414
>has a cross on it
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>>134584017
Yes goyim, all people proud of their white heritage are LARPers.
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>>134593007
That's what I'm saying.
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>>134585284
From America to France, onward Christian soldiers. We haven't forgotten you. I am seriously advocating for missionaries to stop going on mission impossible trips to shithole countries in favor of missionary trips to Europe, because I am all too familiar with your predicament.
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>>134584017
If you had asked me that question a year ago I probably would have called myself an atheist. Now the needle has shifted firmly into the theist column. I still don't know if I would call myself a traditional Christian as I have been reading everything from gnostic texts to different occult books about the ancient mystery schools.

That or maybe I am just spending too much time on /x/ and am going schizo. Regardless people are correct when they say if you seriously go looking for god you will find him. Our society needs faith and works and without both, without god, we are doomed on both the individual and group level.
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>>134592984
Sure, you can deify the christcuck. I want to know if you christcucks are as intolerant as the muzzies (which I know you are, because you're all semitic filth). Since you're not tolerant, I have no empathy for your extinct.
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>>134593141
I wouldn't call myself an atheist either. I had a fedora phase, yeah, but I can't conclusively prove anything, either, so I guess I'm stuck being a centrist faggot. pls don't gas
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>>134591440
>tfw no Kate wife to make a home with
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>>134591560
>Pagans
>Got conquered and dominated by the Romans, who converted to Christianity, and tranformed Europe into the greatest civilization ever seen by mankind
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>>134591560
It was only with the decline of christianity that we became vulnerable. We were systematically incrementally subverted. Our moral overton window was pushed, slowly over time, towards the degenerated state we are in today.
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>>134593083
>Whitey got in the way
Pick up a history book
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>>134593594
>muh other cheek
You were cucked from day 1 by a fucking Jew.
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>>134593170
>has a leaf on it
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>>134593656
>picks up history book
>reads about ancient india and all its glory
>picks up infowars pamphlet
>reads 3 paragraphs about american history

To be fair, I'm a huge Alex Jones fan. But there is a lot more to history than being white.
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>>134593357
>I know you are as intolerant as the Muslims
Then why is it that in the Bible, man and woman are created equally, and in the Qur'an, Allah creates Adam, and races of different people whom Allah charges to Adam's command- which teaches at a religious level that some people are inherently created inferior. This philosophy that the Qur'an routinely demonstrates is why Islamic civilization is constantly in a state of despotism, as we see today, and Christian civilization wrote the Bill of Rights.
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>>134584017
>"pegans"

What's the quotes for?
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>>134593407
Who is she?
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>>134584017
>anything whites do is larp
kys
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>>134585284
I remember seeing lots of young christian traditionalists in a video about Génération Identitaire. You should join them or another Catholic/Right-wing youth group. Seems like a good way to find like-minded friends and maybe a qt traditional wife
>>134593199
>muh white heritage
>abandon the faith of your family and nation intertwined with your culture
>pretend to worship marvel superheros based on some scraps of lore from centuries ago
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>>134584017
read it plebs
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>>134593958
Kate Marsh is a character from Life is Strange who is a meek and modest girl, who is also a devout Christian.
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>>134593885
>bible & quran say different things
Funny, because you're talking about the same book.
>Christian bill of rights
Ahaha the whole reason for the fucking bill of rights is because you christcucks chimp out every so often and the American founding fathers, which included quakers and protestants, had enough of that
>thinks he's special for saying people are equal
Ashok and Buddha did it before Jesus was born.
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>>134594043
MPH is the man, I discovered him shortly after Jung and the two of them changed my world completely. For this thread how about one on the Bible and Christianity, although his ones on the kabbalah are great as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5uR75rxgks
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>>134593807
>Be india
>Worship cows while starving to death
>Get cucked by muslims.
>Shit in the streets of said glorious civilization.
>Think white history is confined to the USA.
You've got a lot more reading to do.
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>>134592137
this, getting rid of evil means getting rid of free will.
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>>134593543
>Europe a civilization
Spotted the pan-Euro fag.
>Pagans conquered by Romans
Roman Empire was at its peak when it was Pagan, brainlet. It was Pagan when it conquered the British isles. It didn't became Christian until it was already in its decline, and Christianity did nothing but speed that up
By the way, your savior jew was only relevant because the pagan Romans ruled Judea at the time, and the zealot jews were salty about it and used Jesus the cuck-preacher to undermine them.
It's also worth noting that the way Christianity spread through the Roman Empire is exactly the same as islam and "organized degeneracy"/liberalism is spreading through western civilization today. Multiculturalism and tolerance, promoted by weak emperors like Constantine who were the equivalent of Merkel
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>>134594043
Eliminate muh secret gnoledge faggots.
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>>134594554
which anime is this? pretty redpilled mane
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>>134591560
It only failed when Europeans started abandoning it. You can't abandon and shit on Christianity, let yourself get invaded by Muslims, and then blame Christianity for not protecting you as you get BTFO by barbarian hordes. That's on you.
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>>134594011
>I remember seeing lots of young christian traditionalists in a video about Génération Identitaire. You should join them or another Catholic/Right-wing youth group. Seems like a good way to find like-minded friends and maybe a qt traditional wife
Those are called LARPers, and fuck them and their whores.
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>>134584017
i think some larps and some dont

If they say meme shit like crusades when and shout heretics at the tiniest thing, its larpers
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>>134584017
Yes

Patris et Filii et Spiritus Sancti
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>>134594774
The knowledge is not secret its available for anyone to read and learn. The problem is so few care. Most people can't even bother to read bible the book they claim to have faith in let alone other more obscure religious texts.
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>>134594811
ghost stories, but you should find it under Gakkō no Kaidan
but watch the english dub because its fundamentally different from the japanese one

furthermore momoko is my waifu and you stay the fuck away from her
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>>134594774
I kinda hate/don't understand the bible, because its written like a circle jerk, the lion has to be the "jelaous one". I don't get it.
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>>134594218
>Bible and Qur'an are the same book
You haven't even bothered to read them. Tell an Imam or a Priest what you just said and they will tell you flat-out that you are wrong. You are repeating a lie that has been spoon-fed to you by militant atheists. I actually bothered to read the Qur'an to confirm my statements, so the onus is now on you to believe me or not. What I tell you is true.

What you say about the bill of rights is false too, because England had the Magna Carta, and Cromwell's rebellion, prior to the American founding. The Massachusetts Bay Colony prior to becoming part of America in the 1600s also had created a statement that inspired the Declaration of Independence when the English crown was impeding on their rights.

Finally, to your last point
>India took nothing short of Westernization from Great Britain to finally ditch caste systems, something that the West had been phasing out since Martin Luther challenged the Catholic Church and people realized that individualism is a valuable part of common humanity, as featured in the Bible. To tie this all together, I believe that God created everyone equal, and this was established at the beginning of time. Proclaiming that common humanity exists is special, because as you should know, there are constantly people who believe that some of mankind is inferior to others, hence, why there are so many despots in the world today.
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>>134594218
Not even that guy but you totaly missed the point
Islam is stuck in the dark ages by its nature, Christianity leaves room for discovery, and had a reformation
Islam did not
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>>134594994
thanks

ye, I actually already found my waifu, if you can call it that way
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>>134585073
>I for one, believe that the sun is "father" and Earth is "mother"

B-but that's incest!
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>>134595049
the ''lion'' represents the demiurge
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>>134594548
>assumes India is a homogeneous society
>says we worship cows
Bulls are holy because they are the chosen vehicle of Lord Shiva. Cows produce valuable milk and butter, and are comparatively the least efficient source of protein from common domesticated animals. When the most educated 21st century scientists are finally understanding that beef is at best a luxury reserved for special occasions because of it's relatively high environmental and economic cost, Hindus realized this 1000's of years ago.
>Get cucked by mudshits
Actually Hindus are the only major religion and society to stand firm in the face of mudshits to date. Christcucks tout the crusades, which ended up being a failed conquest that ultimately ceded Spain and southern europe to the mudshits.
>Shit in the streets
At least our niggers don't shoot our high-castes.
>Thinks white history is confined to USA
I only respect English gentlemen, Norwegians, Poles, and Midwestern Americans (not from Chicago). From my father's and my own experience, these are the people that deserve respect. The rest can rot in hell.
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>>134592799
You think all followers of Christ are perfect? I don't think God has guide me or I don't listen I just try and be nice to people I don't even listen to the bible that much but I keep the words it says.
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>>134594839
>It only failed when Europeans started abandoning it.
correlation =/= causation
We can blame Christianity for weighing us down like a slab of concrete tied to our leg.
We can blame it for undermining the process of perpetual warfare and conflict that gives rise to the superior European civilizations in the first place.
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>>134595167
good, then we are clear at least
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>>134595167
>>134594994
I feel like somthing died in me when I used "waifu" for the first time...
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>>134595167
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH6FjHx3IQU
by the way, if you want to look into it first
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>>134595095
I have read that the caste system in India may have been instituted as a way to combat the difference in the different racial groups. If that was the case it was not necessarily a bad thing. All people are equal in the eyes of god but people of different races clearly have different characteristics and allowing interbreeding with certain races will destroy your civilization. If anything the caste system may have been introduced too late to stop the degeneration
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>>134584017
At this point we need to.

>>134565406
>>134565406
>>134565406
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>>134594218
>>134595106
Not to mention that this guy's willful ignorance is killing people in the Muslim world attempting to begin an Islamic reformation. Theirs will take more time, and I question if it can ever be done, since Islam appears to be Muhammad's cult of personality, but that's a discussion for another day.
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>>134584017
>are christians on here LARPing or do they actually genuinely believe in god?
The evidence available to me SUGGESTS that there is probably a God. Of course nobody can know this one way or the other for sure. We go by probabilities and our interpretation of our experience, but I really do think there probably is a God.
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>>134594690
The Byzantine Empire managed to spread as far and then a bit further than the Pagan Roman Empire. It also lasted longer.
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>>134595281
>We can blame Christianity for weighing us down like a slab of concrete tied to our leg.
correlation=/=causation
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>>134591351
>Can god make a stone so heavy he cannot lift it?
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>>134595203
As an American I think the Indians are a proud civilization worthy of my respect, but I don't see why you would be lead to believe that we didn't stand up to Islam. The Moors slaughtered legions of people in Europe for defying their religion, and then because of the Moors, Europe learned how to wage war and win. Prior to that, the whole of Europe was a peaceful land just coming off of being a gigantic Roman protectorate. As for the Hindus and Sikhs, I do not know how you learned to wage war, but as I understood it your story was similar, in that the Muslims barged in and then war became a necessity. Also, since we're on this topic:
>Criticizing Europe for losing Spain to the Moors
>When Pakistan currently exists
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>>134595408
>I have read that the caste system in India may have been instituted as a way to combat the difference in the different racial groups.
Liberals don't like to admit it, but it almost certainly was. The original descriptions of what made one a Brahmin (highest caste) included white skin and blonde or brown ("red") hair (as opposed to black).

Now you know why Hitler used the word "Aryan." The real Aryans were pure white race. The brown shits claiming that name in India now are mixed garbage.
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>>134591351
for this argument to be sound you would need to be omniscient in order to understand whether or not God couldn't have morally sufficient reasons for his allowance of sin.
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>>134595599
And if I'm right, liberals are in deep, deep, DEEP shit.
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>>134595095
>Read the Bible
King James Verison
>Read the Qu'ran
Translated into the Queen's English.
>Not the same book
They literally reference the same folktales and interpret the same events; the hadiths confirm that both Moses and Jesus were influenced by Allah, and that all three faiths are people of the books and not subject to the jizyah, whereas Hindus, Buddhists, and other faiths were not of the holy faiths and so were the worst of infidels.
>Militant Atheists
I was taught this from the local mosque in Andhra Pradesh when I pretended to be a bumbling non-resident Indian in search of a faith, when in reality my father and gramps taught me the full dharma of my caste and heritage and I would defend it to the dying breath.
>Magna Carta, Massachusetts Bay Colony
Cool story, bro. So you're saying after centuries of interfaith conflict the christcucks finally figured out it was in their best interest not to kill each other? Sounds a lot like a sister faith that's rampaging around the world today.
>ditch caste system
This was a BAD thing. The caste system does not disenfranchise the individual. To argue otherwise would be tantamount to arguing that Western civilization and Christianity disenfranchise women.
>Humanity is inferior
My understanding of Hinduism leads me to believe the most valuable existence is the individual soul and experience (atman). You can think of this as similar to how you can see a photo and imagine, but you'll not really know the true existence of when the picture was taken. Similarly, each individual soul is reminiscent, yet an incomplete vista, of the greater universal consciousness and its experience. The beauty of humanity lies in its duality of being able both to recognize and shape the individualized cognition of reality, and to craft and build a universalized cognition of reality around that individual perception. This is the essence of the cycle of rebith, and the "good" version of what can be realized is called dharma.
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>>134584017

This is why Sweden always reminds me of a real-life Reddit
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>>134591351
>I'm too stupid and illiterate to know my favorite anti-God argument is hundreds of years old and was answered all that time ago.
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>>134595203
>Ultimately ceded spain and southern europe
Look up the Reconquista
>Stands firm in the face of mudshits
So does Zoroastrianism.
>All religions are a pathway to god
Hindu is a cuck religion
>Flag
Go back to your glorious street shitting empire.
>>134595281
You pagans are constantly complaining that Christianity divided Europe and caused an excessive amount of war. You guys always point out a cherry picked few mass executions and that the 4th and onward crusades largely only turned the East and West against each other after all. So which is it? Christianity halted the perpetual war between Europeans? Or Christianity destroyed the unity brought by the Roman Empire?
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>>134595878
There are cultures from all around the world talking of blonde/red haired, blue eyed people with white skin that came over the sea and brought civilization, including the sumerians. Where did those come from when the sumerians where the first, and why are the people discribed always the same if they were just made up?
The sumerians believed the blue eyed white people where gods, the annunaki. The Aztecs as well, and describe them from coming over the sea with a ship that moved on its own. The chinese talk about blue eyed and blonde haired people who created the first civilization and ruled in the early time. A lot of egyptians mummies are shown to have had blonde hair etc.
The nordic gods, thor, odin, all blond and blue eyed, and (((coincidently))) asgard is on a map that supposedly shows the inner part of the earth
Hitlers Ahnenerbe tried to find out about the origins of the white people, and maybe he did find out something (((they))) absolutely fear which is the reason (((they))) try to destroy whites so furiously, more than any other ethnicities.
Later on Hitler went to antarctica, created New Swabia and again a lot of cultures speak about a realm beneath the earth, like shangri la for example, and civilization is said to exist there as well.
Did Hitler find out that the whites, or at least those people who spreaded knowledge (which may have nothing to do with whites today) came from the inner earth, the biblical paradise, and from there spread their knowledge with others. Is this why (((they))) want to get rid completely of the white people?
Now these whites maybe have nothing to do with the whites of today, they could be the fallen angels of the bible, the annunaki of the Sumerians or the gods of the atztecs, but finding out where those came from would be devastating for (((their))) narrative
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>>134591560
>Christianity is a cucked religion that failed to protect us.
You mean aside from the two thousand years during which it protected us, of course.
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>>134595408
>>134595878
As a Christian, however, I do not believe that skin color reflects a difference in race.
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>>134595878
Another interesting thing is that "Paradise" in the bible originally came from the word meaning "walled enclosure" which would be pretty much fitting to the inner earth.
the hopi indians, also have the swastika. and their legends involve humanity coming from out of a hole on earth, and during the end of the 4th world/cycle (i think it was the 4th) when the flood hit (whch probably was the same the bible mentioned as well as many others cultures) other people came out of the earth, the ant-friends or ant people, brought them underground and ensured their survival until the earth above is habitable again. further more. further more the word "anu" means for the hopi indians "ant" and naki "friend" while the sumerian gods were called anunaki, so probably those were the same.
however from what i found the description of the ant people doesnt really fit, they seem humanoid but not human. but maybe there are multiple races living in hollow earth living peacefully there together. sumerians and hopi also used the swastika
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>>134584017
I believe in one God,
the Father, the Almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all that is, seen and unseen.

I believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ,
the only Son of God,
eternally begotten of the Father,
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made,
of one Being with the Father.
Through him all things were made.

For us and for our salvation
he came down from heaven:
by the power of the Holy Spirit
he became incarnate from the Virgin Mary,
and was made man.

For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate;
he suffered death and was buried.
On the third day he rose again
in accordance with the Scriptures;
he ascended into heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.

He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead,
and his kingdom will have no end.

I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son.
With the Father and the Son he is worshiped and glorified.
He has spoken through the Prophets.
I believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church.
I acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
I look for the resurrection of the dead,
and the life of the world to come.

Amen.
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>>134585284

Бoг c вaми, God and all the saints are with you, you are not alone.
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most pagans are larping most christians are larping true believers have always been the minority the people who rule the world can't tell true belief from pretend belief it's hilarious they love true belief but they can't even see it when they have it they love fake belief because they don't know it's fake they hate true belief because they can't see it when it's there
I'm way too drunk for /pol/ sorry I'll go elsewhere
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Regardless is they believe or not they sure as hell are larping when they mention the crusades in any way shape or form
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>>134595661
I explained the causation in the sentence after that.
>>134595607
It spread mostly into shitty deserts to the south and the east, but even then I'm pretty sure their territory wasn't as large.
They were Orthodox by the way, you can argue them being less civilized than the germanics that replaced western Rome.
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>>134595854
>common enemy in mudshits
All I ever wanted was to viewed as a potential ally in the inevitable world war against Islam. We can tolerate being called poos, but please don't group us with the mudshits. Not all shitskins are created equal.

>Pakistan
Shoulda nuked 'em.
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>>134596083
>I'm too stupid to realize god must not love me because he made me stupid

>>134596106
>Hindu is a cuck religion
Explain.
>Go back
It's not like there's gonna be a white america in 50 years mate, so you'll have to choose - would you rather it be poos and chinks or spics and niggers?
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>>134596106
>So which is it?
I don't know, maybe you should learn that presupposing other people's opinions for yourself to debunk isn't an intelligent argument.
The "unity" brought by the Roman Empire was in the form of conquest and subjugation. Your loyalty and industry and faith was devoted to Rome.
With Christianity it's devoted to a dead jew who preached a bunch of cucky shit, and to cowardly old men who think they speak with his voice.
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>>134596068
Allah is a pagan moon god that Muhammad adapted to suit his cult and further enrich himself. Look to the Satanic verses of the Qur'an, where Muhammad is trying to bring more people into his sphere of influence by allowing in their gods- an action that was only stopped because the members of his cult would not accept this action. Muhammad then proclaimed that the devil made him say that other gods were permissible. Islam came centuries after the Bible, and makes reference to local folktales in addition to his poorly remembered rendition of the Bible as a means to fool people in Arabia. I implore you to look more closely at the texts you are ignoring, to understand who your friends and enemies really are.
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I believe in gawd. Oh lauwdy he gunna save mie sawul!

Oh wait, that's ridiculous.
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>>134596175
>As a Christian, however, I do not believe that skin color reflects a difference in race.
You don't think God created races? Jeremiah 13:23 mentions the different color of Ethiopians. If we must accept that different people from different regions have different traits (and the bible has no trouble admitting this even if you do), then we must admit that God created different races.

You think it makes you progressive to deny what God created. All it makes you is a servant of God's enemy.
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>>134596405
I'm beginning to like you more and more. We may not see eye to eye in our beliefs, but I agree with you about the state of the world today.
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>>134596611
>I'm sucking Satan's dick because it makes me cool to do that.
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>>134596730
>satanic verses of the Qu'ran
From the Jews perspective, there are satanic verses in the New Testament
>Muhammad
Is less of a cuck of a jesus, too bad he's a pedophile
>my friends
In my religion, friendship is won through trust and deeds.
>my enemies
I don't like being called a poo.
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>>134596821
We have different skin colors on Earth, but we're all still human.
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>>134596970
White people, especially Anglos, have always seen eye-to-eye with high caste Indians. Sure, you've got Christmas and I've got Diwali, but we're both down to exchange presents and take a day off of work and get drunk. That's what it means to be human and enjoy life, and the people that threaten that are our common enemy. I think eventually both our peoples will see it's more helpful to work together at a distance than be torn apart by the muzzie horde.
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>>134597017
I haven't called you anything, besides ignorant of the differences between Islam and Christianity.
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>>134596611
I pick neither. Go back
>>134596671
>Ignore the examples made by other pagans
>Ignore the conquests Christians made outside of Europe
>Ignore the last 2000 years of history
I didn't realize protestant pagans existed.
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>>134596986
Haha jokes on you I worship a giant penis and it gives me superpowers to kick your ass.
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>>134584017
I believe in God.
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>>134592137
Confirmed never read the bible.
God predestined all evil. Since Christianity necessitates predestination, there is no free will.
If you want free will pick a different faith.
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>>134597218
I don't think anyone is saying people with a skin color other than white are not human. All that is being said is people of different races have different characteristics. Some excel in actives that others have difficulties with. Now some people will twist this into labeling one race as superior to another, but that is a mistake. Even if the races are different, on average, the individual may still be superior to the average of his or other races.
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>>134584017
I think you will find that /pol/ is a Christian board. Heretic!
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>>134597268
Yeah, we'll fuck them up once Europe snaps out of their madness, but for now they're my number one concern. The aristocracy of Europe is hell-bent on national suicide, and I would really rather not see that void filled by more despotic Muslim theocracies that give no regard to life whatsoever besides that of the theocrat con men who commit genocide to enrich themselves. As my father says, it's old wine in a new bottle- this behavior isn't new, but the players might be.
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>>134597426
>implying free will and predestination are mutually exclusive
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>>134591406
Only true christian faith is Catholic one,if you are protestant you are LARPer, tell me how long do you churhc exist, that it exist continuous from crucifiction of our Savior, or it was established by John Smyth in 16 th century?
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>>134597426
>If you want free will pick a different faith
Provide proof that Christianity necessitates predestination. Simply because God knows who will end up where does not mean anyone is predestined. Also, I have already followed another religion and then decided to come back to Christianity.
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>>134584017 I would classify myself as Christian although I do struggle to believe in it. I am pretty conflicted with it as I have half of me that rejects it because it doesn't line up with what I see around me but the other part yearns to believe so I get a tug of war between these parts of me. At the end of the day though when all is said and done my loyalty lies with Christianity and I will defend it when "pagans" attack it.
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>>134597683
Okay so if God predestined Adam and Eve to eat the apple, how can we at all conclude they had free will?
Eating the apple was ultimately a part of God's plan, not the choice of Adam or Eve.
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>>134597374
Say, if you fucking hate the Muslims, what is your opinion of China? I personally believe that the Taiwanese are the rightful sovereigns to the entirety of China, but given that the Taiwanese have corruption problems in their government, it makes me think that Chinese culture is beyond saving.
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PAGANS FOREVER!
GRECIAN! GAULISH! OBSCURE DEITIES ACROSS THE REALMS!
PANTHEONS UNITE AGAINST THE JEALOUS FRACTURED SHARDS OF ADONAI!
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>>134597978
Larper spotted, we've got a nice cushy room for you and a straightjacket to keep you warm.
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>>134597426
Ypu free will , yet, Gos being omniscient , he knows what will happen , no matyer the choice you make.
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>>134597668
Pops say Europe is gone for good. Except for a few countries they're literally set up for demographic suicide in 20 years and the UK has turned into little Pakistan. We live in Texas so the spic problem takes precedence but the best thing the US could do is stop the mudshit invasion asap. My dad already says every muslim post-doc is "below average" so he never has to sponsor them.
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>>134584017
western Christianity is pure bullshit.
Greek Orthodox is the only real christian and it's a completely different message from Catholics and shit.
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>>134598109
Lock away what you don't understand. Pretend it doesn't exist. We move whether you condone it or not.
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>>134597359
>examples made by other pagans
How am I supposed to know about the arguments inside your head?
>conquests Christians made outside of Europe
What does this have to do with anything? Your native territory should come before foreign holdings.
>the last 2000 years of history
Again, what about them?

>protestant pagans
>implying "paganism" is a religion
In the western world it's basically everything that isn't the three branches of your desert god worship..
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>>134598312
Heathen! Blasphemer! The Lord father shall smite you and your lies! Prepare for your reckoning unholy swine!
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>>134597948
>China & Taiwan
Never get involved in mainland affairs. You can trust the Chinese to sort themselves out without endangering the world
>Chinese culture
I studied abroad in Shanghai and traveled through western china. Trust me, no culture is as resilient as the Chinese.
>Mudshit hate
Chinks hate muzzies too, but they play real-politik games and sponsor muzzie invasions of US allies and such. If the USA started showing force in international affairs (like Trump does), they will back off.
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>>134597827
Romans 8:28-30
Ephesians 1:4-5, 1:11
>>134598131
You don't get it, you don't make the choices. God does. If you end up sinning, that was God's desicion for you to sin. Your sin was part of God's plan.
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>>134597929
What? Why would God say "Don't eat from the tree in the middle of the garden," if he intended for them to eat from it? Granted, Genesis is full of multiple contradictions, but from a contextual standpoint, God planning for them to eat from it and saying otherwise just seems folly ungodly. God's not a troll, dude.
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>>134598487
I've already inflitrated your institutions for cover.
Nobody will ever know that I work with the heathen powers. Not until it's too late.
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>>134598563
Yes he is, he literally bans shellfish and other unclean foods in the old testament only to say "I changed my mind, you can eat shellfish now" in the New Testament. Literally the biggest troll.
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>>134598679
Shut your foul deceiptful mouth heretic! Your false gods have no power here or anywhere else! The only fitting punishment for you and your bile is an eternity of damnation!
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>>134598679
Can /pol/ find out where this statue is? Is this even real? Reverse image search has nothing.
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>>134598824
What if god was just testing you to see if you'd do it? What if all god wanted was to see the creature made in his image live up to his name and become the master over earth and it's dominion, and to lead it into a new age of renaissance and creation? What if all god ever wanted was for you to beat the muzzies?
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>>134598336
I think you're a little too young to be on this board, kiddo.
I don't know why you equate the thoughts of other pagans with the arguments in my head.
>How are the conquests outside of Europe relevant
Hippies don't conquer. Christians are not hippies
>How are the last 2000 years of history relevant
Because it surround Christianity which is what we are arguing about.
>Paganism isn't a religion
We coined the term to begin with in reference to those who participate in worship of the old gods. Paganism is a religion. It always has been. Stop trying to redefine words like a feminist.
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>>134598237
Yeah, my fear is that Europe is headed for civil war, worst case scenario is that it turns into a full-blown race war. We'll see. Personally, I think the USA needs to stop incentivizing vagrant LATAMs from jumping the border, because the kinds of people we're generally attracting are pieces of shit. I think that Latin America is an ally of the USA someday, but this is contingent on a full-blown enlightenment of society south of the border. Individually, Mexicans are fine, for example, but as a people they are a slavish bunch, like other sorts of LATAMs, who as a society don't give a shit about abundant corruption in their government. They are traditionalists in some ways, but they have the societal philosophy of a class of peasants and serfs.
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>>134584017
I'm Christian.

Protestant (Baptist).
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>>134598894
I have evidence from a /Christian/ clairvoyant of my reincarnation. Hellfire holds no fear or power over me.
>>134599004
Shit's from the /x/ files nigga.
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>>134598563
>God isn't a troll
>God lets a demon possess a flock of livestock, who proceed to run off a cliff and piss off the villagers
Pick one
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>>134584017
I wholeheartedly believe in the Father, Son, and Spirit. I believe that Jesus was sent to die for my sins and the sins of the world, and anyone who so chooses may accept the free gift of salvation. Read Revelation. It's the most redpilled piece of literature ever. Plus, it's going to happen. It literally calls (((them))) out.
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>>134598530
If I knew you well enough to determine that you would react a certain way to certain stimuli, that doesn't mean you don't have to choice to react differently.
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>>134584017
I am sure there are some. Christianity, like paganism or anything else, serves as cover for the less inteligent.
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>>134598894
erad the Kybalion, it will open your eyes. also you should try to read the (((banned))) Gospel of Philip
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>>134599158
You are wholly deceived. Sad. Come into the light of the Truth.
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>>134599158
Delusional wretch! God is all powerful! Your future is fire and brimstone infadel!
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>>134584017
I believe. Christianity has, thank God, become the focus of my entire existence. There isn't a day that passes without me thanking the Lord for opening my eyes to the truth.
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>>134599076
This is where traditional Hinduism begins to show wisdom.
>vagrant LATAMs
You can't stop them; you know deep in their socio-cultural overton horizon there is still Jesus and Christianity.
Solution - Bring it back. We all know latina chicks love white boys; it's up to the white boys to start demanding basic housekeeping skills (for god's sake, latina women that cant cook are a fucking travesty), honesty and trust in relationships (no fucking cuckoldry) and a generally traditional culture in the home.
For example, in traditional Hinduism, we don't expect the low castes to be virtuous and behave and not chimp out - instead, we make it a point to instill all the women with high-status demand, so being a "rebel" is bad, high income demands, so being unemployed is taboo, and high familial/societal demands - so the incoming son-in-law has to be a member of well-to-do society and will increase the family's prestige. This isn't unique to Hindu caste either, it's analogous to Confucianism. The point being, because the societal standard is set high, both women and men are pre-programmed to steer away from degeneracy and towards social progress.
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>>134599378
Bitch, demons stay clear away from me. Jesus was weak shit. Don't ever banish a demon like Jesus did. FLAY a demon. Even if you can't completely kill it MAKE IT FEEL PAIN.
>>134599504
I've studied the mystic arts for years and I know the extent of my power and your god's. I respect him, but I know there's more out there. I have no 'formal' covenants with any deities.
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>>134599023
>the thoughts of other pagans
>"other" pagans
Just the ones who made whatever arguments you're talking about.
And you want to apply them to me because you're too much of a brainlet for actual debate.

>Hippies don't conquer. Christians are not hippies
And? All this means is there were Christians who didn't have the resolve to follow the hippie preaching of the jew they worship. That wasn't really in dispute.

>Because it surround Christianity which is what we are arguing about.
And what? What about the last 2000 years of history do you want to talk about? I'm asking you to make an actual point.

>those who participate in worship of the old gods.
>the old gods
Which ones, genius. Odin and shit, right? Since that's what the LARPers like? That's Norse paganism.
There's thousands of gods older than them. All the way back to Sumer, ancient Egypt, etc. All of it's pagan.
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>>134600097
Out of curiosity - what do you think about the Eastern religions, particularly Hinduism?
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>>134595401
Did ED ever do any other dub's like this one? I mean a complete rewrite from the original.
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>>134600097
>debate
You're not debating here, you're just spewing nonsensical trash.
>Hurr durr jesus was a hippie
>Hurr durr but the christians who weren't cucks weren't real christians
You're making the claim that Christianity is a 'cuck religion' while failing to provide evidence of it. I, on the other hand, have provided historical examples of Christians and Christian societies functioning correctly and you just pass it off with a shitty excuse like "All this means is there were Christians who didn't have the resolve to follow the hippie preaching of the jew they worship."
>Odin and shit right?
Yes, all sects of paganism are religions.
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>>134599724
My father remarried to a Mexican lady after my mother abandoned our family. You're hitting he nail on the head here, and Christianity is similar culturally in all these regards you're bringing up. The enlightenment that I refer to is a strong revival of Christianity, because I know they love God and deep down if they were lit with his fire, they would be capable of massive social upheaval.
Side note, compare our discourse to what's happening on the Muslim thread:
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>>134584017
>Doesn't know for sure that /pol/ is a Christian board

Come on now, senpai. You can't be that blind.
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>>134600335
Idk, they seem like they have a lot more to do with interpreting the now and finding meaning at home as opposed to answering stuff like where did we come from and what's our purpose.
Ancestor worship is always good, too. That's something the West needs
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>>134584017
Christbro here. Not LAARPing. I actually attend Church on a regular basis and read the Bible daily. Generally, the Catholics on /pol/ are often LAARPing, Protestants, Mormons, Non-trinitarians, etc, are not.
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>>134601033
>Ancestor worship is always good, too. That's something the West needs

I don't know about that. There were many great men in the past who did amazing things but they were still men. That is important to remember. I think it is more important to humanize our ancestors and avoid mythologizing them. Respect your ancestors but worship God.
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>>134593083
Its not set in stone, its called the THEORY of evolution. It always has throughout history even to present day.
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>>134600724
What do you mean failing to provide evidence of it? The evidence is the bible, and Jesus's teachings.

>I, on the other hand, have provided historical examples of
absolutely nothing. All you did is say they've "conquered outside of Europe" and given no actual examples, probably because you know that Christianity wasn't a relevant factor.
What is a "Christian society"? A society where people get baptized and bishops exist and you perform all the rites and shit, or a society where people follow the teachings of Christ and practice his values?

>all sects of paganism are religions
There's no such thing as a "sect of paganism", idiot. Protestantism, Orthodoxy, etc. are sects of Christianity.

Ra, Osiris, Horus have fuck-all to do with Odin, Thor, Frey
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>>134593266
With all due respect, do yourself a favor anon, and try to read a good, orthodox Catholic book or article for every one of the other stuff.

A long time ago, a good friend of mine announced, Well, I'm Christian now. This after I had been trying to redpill him on Christianity and Catholicism, over a period of several years. But he drifted away quite quickly, and within a few weeks was back to agnosticism, bringing to mind the parable of the seeds.

>And He spoke many things to them in parables, saying, “Behold, the sower went out to sow; and as he sowed, some seeds fell beside the road, and the birds came and ate them up. Others fell on the rocky places, where they did not have much soil; and immediately they sprang up, because they had no depth of soil. But when the sun had risen, they were scorched; and because they had no root, they withered away. Others fell among the thorns, and the thorns came up and choked them out. And others fell on the good soil and yielded a crop, some a hundredfold, some sixty, and some thirty. He who has ears, let him hear."
-Matthew 13:3-9

When he told me he had lost his short-lived faith, I immediately thought of the seed that fell on rocky ground and immediately withered away in the heat of the sun.

Some wise theologian once said, in the spiritual life, you're always either moving forward or backwards - even if the movement is incremental - but you're *never* just standing still.

It certainly sounds to me like God's grace is working in you, but you must take care to cooperate with that grace -- to cooperate with your will and move forward in your spiritual life.

It is a fearful thing to trifle with the grace of God.

>For what does it profit a man to gain the whole world and forfeit his soul?
-Mark 8:36
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>>134599023 if hippies don't then tell me how Rome was able to expanded before their conversion to Christianity, it certainly wasn't god's will i can tell you that much
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>>134601463
>Respect your ancestors but worship God
Why?
Myth is fictitious, if you're deifying your ancestors you're not saying they didn't exist, just that their skills or achievements let them ascend beyond whatever the idea of our "mortal plane" is.
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>>134601805
Any recommendations? I have been looking for a new book to read.
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>>134593083
>>134601477
>Evolution and God's creation are mutually exclusive
>Instead of being an observation of the miracle of God's creation
I don't believe the scientific explanation gets everything right (i.e. humanity evolved from apes), but prior subspecies of humanity would be an interesting explanation to the men of the early Bible (i.e. Genesis) living 900 years at a time.
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>>134595304
>I feel like somthing died in me when I used "waifu" for the first time...
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I do.
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>>134601624
>The Bible and Jesus's teachings
You don't seem to know anything about either. Your entire assertion hinges on your own perverse interpretation of scripture rather than the interpretation of those who actually historically practiced it.
And if the religion practiced by a certain race or nation is irrelevant, why would you be advocating for any religion?
>Ra, Osiris, Horus have fuck-all to do with Odin, Thor, Frey
They are all still religions.
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>>134584017
I actually believe, anon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyV7kwMRzdo
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>>134602678
"THE LIGHT CAN HEAL AND THE LIGHT CAN BURN-, okay, it mostly burns, but it sounds cool."
-Ra, 2015
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I believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of Heaven and Earth and of all things visible and invisible.

And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the only-begotten, begotten of the Father before all ages. Light of light; true God of true God; begotten, not made; of one essence with the Father, by Whom all things were made; Who for us men and for our salvation came down from Heaven, and was incarnate of the Holy Spirit and the Virgin Mary, and became man. And He was crucified for us under Pontius Pilate, and suffered, and was buried. And the third day He arose again, according to the Scriptures, and ascended into Heaven, and sits at the right hand of the Father; and He shall come again with glory to judge the living and the dead; Whose Kingdom shall have no end.

And in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the Giver of Life, Who proceeds from the Father; Who with the Father and the Son together is worshipped and glorified; Who spoke by the prophets.

In one Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church. I acknowledge one baptism for the remission of sins. I look for the resurrection of the dead and the life of the world to come. Amen.
Polytheism is not going back to tradition/heritage it's a subconscious atheism because you are too afraid to associate with the liberal atheist crowd. Read this.
http://www.gornahoor.net/?p=564
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>>134602152
Mere Christianity by C.S Lewis.
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>>134602152
As a gauge for recommendations, are there any Catholic or Christian books you've read that you enjoyed? Or videos?
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>>134603211
That was an easy find. Google took me right to a pdf. Thanks anon, I just loaded it on my kindle.
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>>134602678
>rather than the interpretation of those who actually historically practiced it
Right.... So bearing that in mind, how do you substantiate that "Christianity helped Europe", now that you admit that the events you wanted to credit Christianity for were actually just the individual and unrelated wills of people that weren't the lord and savior Jesus Christ or any of his disciples?
Did being dunked in water that a priest said certain words over actually have medical benefits? Did it make us stronger?

>>134602678
>why would you be advocating for any religion?
Because according to you, "practicing a religion" obviously means something completely different to "following the teachings of a religion".
The teachings are relevant, and different religions have different teachings, hence it'd make sense to advocate for one over another.

>They are all still religions
That's right. They aren't "subsets" of another religion. Because "paganism" isn't a religion.
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>>134603557
It's a very good book for our atheist times to rekindle the flame of faith and maybe send you on the path to the more complex stuff.
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>>134584017
I don't see how anyone that can see what the
(((Luciferians))) do, and not think there are demons among us. I believe in God.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL58g24NgWPIy4HUWplqHmXz0GCEcFy5Vw&v=9DSIUfT0Lh4
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>>134603211
>>134603557
Yes, Mere Christianity is very good - a classic.

The Screwtape Letters by CS Lewis is also excellent. It's a black comedy, and very funny, but it's teaches a great deal about the spiritual life. The letters are from a wise senior demon, Screwtape, to an inexperienced junior demon.
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>>134584017
I'm agnostic but I still prefer Christian aesthetics and philosophy over Islam or Kikeism.
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>>134603611
Christianity encourages high standards or moral conduct along with family values and social cooperation. Christianity was highly influential on the development of many western nations including the USA. Never did I ever concede that the religion practiced by a nation was irrelevant to how that nation functions.

>Because according to you, "practicing a religion" obviously means something completely different to "following the teachings of a religion".
Again, your assertions about Christianity hinge on your own false interpretation of scripture.

>Worship of Ra is paganism
>Worship of Ra is religion
>Paganism is not a religion
Your statements are contradictory
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>>134590330
>p-pol is a christian board
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>>134595401
to amazing to not watch desu
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>>134602584
?whats your problem mane
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>>134604956
one of my favorite animes
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If there is a God, then you live justly in his name, and receive rewards in the afterlife. You live a good, healthy life, and an eternal afterlife.

If there is no God, then you live justly for nothing, and receive nothing but a good life lived justly. You live a good, healthy life, and that is its own reward, isn't it?
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>>134604533
>encourages high standards or moral conduct
Did you think you were gonna get away with that? Christianity is its own morality, you've gotta explain what's good about it.
>family values
Same again
>social cooperation
At what scale, and to what end?

>influential on the development of many western nations including the USA
The development of the US has already proven to be one of the most catastrophic things to happen to western civilization.

>your own false interpretation of scripture
If I "practice" Christianity, do my interpretations suddenly become true? Apparently.

>Your statements are contradictory
How?
>Abrahamic religions worship the Judean deity God
>Worship of Judean deity God is religion
>"Abrahamic" is a religion
This is your argument.
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>>134605210
I repeated it because I thought it was a striking remark.

An 'epiphany' in one sentence.
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>>134605593
>and receive nothing but a good life lived justly
How does that pan out for humanity if this were the case for every person?
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>>134605672
Am I going to have to explain everything to you? The majority of what is traditionally socially acceptable is derivative of Christian doctrine. For example.
>not being gay
>not stealing
>not lying
There's a lot more but I couldn't compile it all in one shitty 4chan post. And what I mean by social cooperation is compassionate behavior toward your other countrymen.
>The development of the US has already proven to be one of the most catastrophic things to happen to western civilization.
So was the Roman Empire
>If I "practice" Christianity, do my interpretations suddenly become true? Apparently.
You can only practice something if you are doing it correctly. If I decide to practice paganism while simultaneously celebrating and encouraging diversity and being an SJW in general, does that make paganism a cuck religion? Practicing Christianity would mean adhering to its actual teachings.

And lastly, yes Abrahamism is a religion.
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>>134606582
What do you mean? A good life lived justly is its own reward.
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>>134606883
Then you're just lying, because those examples are empirically false.
As well as
>compassionate behavior toward your other countrymen
Which, I'll add, isn't that significant a virtue to claim credit for.

>So was the Roman Empire
How is one of the main things that defined western civilization considered catastrophic to it?

>Does that making paganism a cuck religion?
No, because paganism isn't a religion, and neither is "Abrahamism". How is a person autistic enough to argue this? Do you know what a "religion" is?

>Practicing Christianity would mean adhering to its actual teachings.
Which you freely admitted that the people who "historically practiced" it... didn't do.
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>>134602152
I'd recommend The Seven-Story Mountain by Thomas Merton. It's a classic autobiography of conversion.

And here is a good, solid list with a number of excellent suggestions:

>http://brandonvogt.com/best-catholic-books-of-all-time/

If you like Jung and esotericism, you might enjoy some of the Catholic mystics.

Catherine of Siena: The Dialogue
>https://www.amazon.com/Catherine-Siena-Dialogue-Classics-Spirituality/dp/0809122332

The cover does not look particularly inspiring, but this is an *amazing* book, and this particular edition has a very good, readable translation. (There is probably a public domain translation, which is probably fine as well.) God the Father explains the spiritual life in a dialogue with St. Catherine. Now, did she actually have a dialogue with God the Father? I think she did, but you are not, as a Catholic, required to believe that.

Divine Mercy in My Soul, the Diary of Sr. Faustina
>https://www.amazon.com/Diary-Divine-Mercy-My-Soul/dp/1596141107

Saint Faustina was a rather obscure Polish nun who died at age 33 in the early 1930s. This is her diary. This book was very important in my spiritual life. The bold type in the text shows the locutions of Jesus. There are many, MANY amazing passage -- I've marked up at least 100+ pages in my copy where I found striking passages. There are visions of Hell and of Heaven, and much wise spiritual advice to be found about trusting in the mercy of God. HIGHLY recommended.

Padre Pio: The True Story by Bernard C. Ruffin
>https://www.amazon.com/Padre-Pio-Story-Ruffin-Bernard/dp/B00CAYN7EK

Padre Pio was a 20th cent Catholic monk, a mystic and a miracle worker, declared a saint in 2002. Very well researched book, filled with amazing stories, including bilocation by Pio, conversations with Jesus and, at one point, a dialogue with an angel who turned out to be a demon in disguise. (How did Pio discern this? Read and find out!)
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>>134607883
Can a species survive and prosper using "rewards"?
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>>134590683
Prove to me Allah isn't real haha checkmate christfag!
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>>134608000
All interactions in nature are committed with the intention of receiving some kind of "reward" or benefit from that action, so yes. Do good, live as a good man would live, and that is its own benefit to you.
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>>134608109
Yes it's a benefit to me.
I'm talking about benefiting humanity, or at least society.
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I used to be a le edgy fedora man, desu. But after highschool i stopped associating with the le edgy fedora klik and a series of events occured, I started to believe.


Although i will say it's not an absolute belief.
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>>134584017
Both.

God is kind of like pizzagate.
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>>134602152

But I'd suggest you start with this short (~5000 word) essay, which explains and lays out the basic case for Catholicism:

>https://www.catholic.com/tract/pillar-of-fire-pillar-of-truth
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>>134600913
Stay cool. You still have friends out here.

>>134601033
In a dharmic style of thought, finding meaning at home is the same as answering where we came from and what's our purpose.

>>134602415
You don't have to believe we came from apes to recognize ape-like behavior.

>>134608075
Mudshits can't read stop LARPing.
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