Syria General /sg/ - Gainzsies Edition

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Some news courtesy of SAbro!
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And here are some ME + Qatar Crisis Latest

*Deep goncern over Jerusalem deaths. Egypt, France & Sweden call for UNSC meeting.
*Lebanon PM in Washingtong for meeting w/ Trump, Mattis & Tillerson
*Qatar’s BeIN sports network back on air in UAE
*Erdogan to meet MBS & MBN on 2-day Gulf tour
*MSM publishes several articles on cholera crisis in Yemen
*Tillerson calls on Arab states to lift blockade on Qatar
>Qatar Emir gives first speech about crisis
>Iran Deal certified by Trump
>Oman FM meets Tillerson in Washington; Oman recognized as liaison to Iran.
>Kuwait expels Iran diplomats after terror plot
>Qatar amends CT law, US to deploy officials. UAE welcomes move.
>Omani FM in Washington
>US Congress to introduce Three Bills against Hezbollah
>Hundreds of foreign cows continue to arrive in Qatar; camels still dying.

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Assad will win.

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>be FSA

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finnbro where are the rules?

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>>134582041
esat karşim :DD

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>>134581881
woah woah, my OC is used.
I made it into the big boyz club

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>>134582248
It's not a fucking popularity contest, Hans.

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In for KIKERY FOILED AGAIN

Gainz still slow or unreported? Not much feels like it's happened over the last couple of days and even the civil civil war has died down a bit for now.

/sg/ feels very quiet at the moment..

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>>134582157

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>>134582654
Sounds like someone's never had popular OC.

>>134582248
well done. now you have to do the initiation ceremony video.

the other big guyz will tell you what u have to do while filming yourself.

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>>134582811
>hurr durr

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Your oc is a jew

>>134582654
of course it is. The only difference to the usual competitions is that the content wins the popularity and not me as a person.
>>134582811
well, not as OP pic
>>134582914
>>/soc/

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Have my rare Santa hat Assad.

>>134581900
>SAbro
jfc how new are you?

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>tfw my content isn't good enough to be in the Original Posters picture
>tfw my amazing art and accusatory images are only shared on rare occasions
Feels bad mane.

>>134582088
what did I start...

>>134583024
Fuck off Abu Mohammad al-Juliani

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>>134582960
>durr hurr

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>>134583056
We remember you anon.

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>>134583196
Look at how disgusted he is. A man of high value as him deserves better than some cheap pansy. The flower sucks too.

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>>134582171
>Korwin-Mikke

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>>134583056
I have something to cheer you up

same guy tries for you
he changes his flag
for the second try
i suspect he's a jew
maybe the jewish jew
maybe just a redditor.
i know what i know
I know he won't get my you.

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>>134583196
>dirty ASS*dist.

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>>134583237
>my art
>mfw

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>>134583237
i remember and have used your content in OP's before anon.

WOOOOOHOOOOOOOOO

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>>134583254
>red
>too nsfw, useful only before 2010/11
>good shop
>who is that faggot though?
Meh/10

>>134582124
that's not possible, FSA doesn't exist

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>>134583237
your tiger is very aesthetic

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>>134583579
not on my watch kaffir
:^)

>>134583547
You have? Shoot, I can't believe I had missed them! Stupid time zone differences make it hard to keep up with /sg/ when things are active.

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>>134582124
>>>/x/

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>>134583515
Maybe you should do one of Erdog, or a k*rd at sometime in the future.

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>>134583708
This triggers the erdofags.

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>>134582739
bongroach?

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Good night /sg/

>>134583708
I should. I'll do one in the morning.

k, i'm off for a few hours. someone take over the bakery!

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where da finn with the rules at

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>>134583820
Nope, I am here for a long time but I never bother to be a namefag.

>>134583805
Saved. You're alright for a turk

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>>134583342

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>>134583820
Not here, alas..

>>134583805
Is this that Gülen guy? I've heard he is a reformist of some sort, what makes him and his movement so special?

so lads
how long before a connection is made with DeZ ?

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~2 months

>>134584050
Erdogan has someone to blame for his failures.

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>>134583579
Will never happen desu. It's about as likely as a resurgent Iroquois nation.

>>134583805
Isn't Gulen a c*mmie?

>>134583670
there are actually no time zone differences. the earth is actually flat, and it's the sametime everywhere at the same time. they just told us it was different to divide us.

>I just realised that time zones are one of the best tools to crush the flat earth larpers

>>134583883
You know, its easy as shit to make a vector of this on something like inkscape, why not try instead of whatever it is you're doing with the picture.

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>>134584188
3 weeks.

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>>134584050
Failed CIA "moderate" beheader type with extra libcuck flavor.
They wanted to replace Erdoğan since he ewnt full anti-ZOG.

>>134584310
The best argument against the (((flat earth society))) is to go at the beach.

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>>134584050
>reformist
Oh no. He is just an asset of CIA. His movement goes back to 70's, various governments since than supported him thinking that it was only a charity organization. Thus they leaked in every possible governance position even to the army and you know the rest. Erdofag and his followers were worshiping to him until 17-25 December operations against AKP in 2013.

>>134584309
No, he is an islamist imam, just like erdofag.

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>>134583986

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Fuck Syria !
Syrian rapefugees not welcome !
Syrian rapefugees go home !

" Teen girl raped by 5 Syrian migrants"
https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/news/147413/teen-girl-raped-by-5-syrian-migrants/

"
Syrian refugee held in indecent assault on girl, 13 at Lowell pool"
http://www.lowellsun.com/breakingnews/ci_30106827/syrian-refugee-held-indecent-assault-girl-13-at

" Two teenage girls gang-raped by four 'Syrian nationals' in southern Germany"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/12088341/Two-teenage-girls-gang-raped-by-four-Syrian-nationals-in-southern-Germany.html

...

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Hezbollah is KICKING ASS in Lebanon! Huzzah!

>>134584346
Watch and learn

>DeZ will be reached any minute now

>>134584540
>he keeps going
Will you ever stop making these?

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>Implying the Seneca will not rise up and conquer all of New York, then unite with the other tribes to retake the entire Great Lakes area

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>>134584558
Tfw almost a trip

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>>134584463
>17-25 December operations against AKP
Spotted the Erdoğan supporter.
>>134584540
This one was very creative and tasteful.
Color me surprised

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>>134584540
(You) sick kid

>>134584303
Flag checks out

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>>134584540
no elephant tits

>>134584188
it needs to be done before winter

2 months realistic
half that optimistically.

probing runs may discover that most of the way is open and thinly defended, especially in desolate areas. maybe recon forces can get there in 2-3 weeks. but it won't mean liberation.

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>>134584716
Kek, even tho the content was real, it was still an operation against AKP.

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>>134584188
next summer

>>134584974
>probing runs may discover that most of the way is open and thinly defended
i'm expecting more of a guerilla hit and run attacks as a last ditch effort

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>70 kilomemes
>next summer
wut ?

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>>134585159
>even tho the content was real, it was still an operation against AKP.
Weird.
Why do you make sense?
Nobody I know IRL makes that level of sense.

>>134584777
I wonder what happened to that thug

>>134584463
>17-25 December operations against AKP in 2013
why would the CIA fuck with turkey ?
they already have them as an ally in nato why giving more reasons for erdomeme to shift toward russia ?

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>>134584601
Yeah, probably. I'm actually having a hard time finding good pics to edit. Otherwise they'd probably be a lot better.

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>>134584915
Of course I try to be creative; I don't think it's any more tasteful though.

>>134584777
Nice trips man but I don't like gore I just hate al-Zenki.

>>134585290
He wants the fun to go on longer, probably doesn't realize we'll just find a new war.

>>134584526
those rapefags come from fsa territory. theyve lived there half their childhood under islamic extremist rule what the fuck do you expect? the jews' fault for trying to get rid of Assad

>>134585634
cia realised they wouldn't integrate with europe.
turkey is a rising regional power.
it may have big delusions.

america already has enough trouble with iran. if it can prevent turkey's rise, then it potentially solves a whole bunch of problems down the line.

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>tfw no 2D Hezbollah gf

>>134585634
The CIA is retarded. Plus they love fucking around with seperatists of all kinds

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>>134585990
divide and conquer

>>134585877
this is the real psyop

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>>134585400
Come on, you can do it. It's not that hard to understand. The Gülen organization were working together with Erdofag until they want the head of MIT(National Intelligence Agency) to be fired and replaced by their own man. Even tho Erdofag consent to their demands to that day, he refused to do this and passed some laws to protect the person in question. This pissed of the CIA or whomever controls the imam and they used what they got against AKP and Erdofag, revealing their dirty clothes. See, the intention behind the action makes it an operation.

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>>134585990
There might be other reasons. What I observe was that Erdofag tried to get out of their control and this pissed them off.

>>134585868
>cia realised they wouldn't integrate with europe.
isn't it also part of EU rejecting turkey ?
did they try a move for EU to accept turkey ?

>if it can prevent turkey's rise
turkey is already in conflict with russia, the plane shot down only proves it more
why didn't they push the fact that turkey can't survive without nato to bring them to their side instead of sabotaging the relations?
also
they're helping the creation of kurdistan which will inevitably piss off more erdomeme
sounds more like they're trying to push turkey toward russia than anything

the cia can't be this retarded there has to be something more behind it

>>134585868
Fuck off kike.
>>134585634
Not the one you are replying to,
>why would the CIA fuck with turkey ?
Because their previous puppet, Erdoğan, went berserk. They wanted to reinstate the control the craziest and scariest army that is Turkish Army.
>>134585662
>I don't think it's any more tasteful though.
It is.
A bit of skin coverage increases its impact.
>I'm actually having a hard time finding good pics to edit
>[itchyhands.jpg]

>>134586255
>What I observe was that Erdofag tried to get out of their control and this pissed them off
yet their plan so far has been escalating the conflicts with turkey thus creating a stronger need to side with russia
why tho ?

>>134585868
>CIA playing whack-a-mole. Where mole any rising country.

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>>134586255
>Come on, you can do it. It's not that hard to understand. The Gülen organization were working together with Erdofag until they want the head of MIT(National Intelligence Agency) to be fired and replaced by their own man. Even tho Erdofag consent to their demands to that day, he refused to do this and passed some laws to protect the person in question. This pissed of the CIA or whomever controls the imam and they used what they got against AKP and Erdofag, revealing their dirty clothes. See, the intention behind the action makes it an operation.
>Alex Jones tier awakeness levels from my kin
Literally who are you?
Please blog about yourself, I'm interested.

>>134586306
>isn't it also part of EU rejecting turkey ?
yes
turkey eu membership is like holding money in front of a jew, you can use it to get them to do shit
they were never joining with 6 fucking vetos before negotiations even begin

>>134586359
>They wanted to reinstate the control
by alienating erdomeme into getting closer to russia instead of trying to find a diplomatic solution by playing erdomeme in the conflict against russia
le 4d chess or pure retardedness ?

>>134586522
>turkey eu membership is like holding money in front of a jew, you can use it to get them to do shit
again alienating erdomeme even more
does the cia loves shooting itself in the foot ?

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>>134586565
I know it seems stupid but that's what it is, I don't know why. It might be related to internal politics, about Trump and Putin.

>>134586500
These are known facts by too many people, are you serious? And if I were to give a slightest personal information about myself now, I would be in jail before the morning. kek

>>134586631
C'mon, its the CIA. Of course they do, everything they touch either goes horribly wrong or becomes rogue

>>134586631
More like giving Europe fully loaded AK-47 to play russian roulette with.

>>134582088
pls sauce

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>>134583820
There's no arabs In the SDF

>>134586631
>does the cia loves shooting itself in the foot ?
they have yet to understand the term blowback

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Our news media recently reported that after surveying Syrian refugees in European countries only 0.5% said they would be willing to return and rebuild, a lot of them uses children and non existent family ties as an excuse and if they are forced they will retaliate and stay by force.

Syria has a chance to recover at light speed once Assad neutralizes the threat, give it 5 years tops and it will have sky scrapers, see Chechnya as an example. But if separatists continue to be there it will remain a waring shithole for decades.

Also fun note, our biggest news publication recently suggested that Assad should just literary GAS THEM ALL and be done with it to restore peace.

Assad has massive amounts of support here even Bibi said he supports Assad as of recent.

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>>134586565
ME politics are not linear faggot.
We may ally with dirty shia anyday against Kurd menace any day now.
Or give gibs to our archenemy Assad for peaceful resolution of FSA cancer.
That is the fun thing, you NEVER know what is going to happen.
>>134586926
>These are known facts by too many people, are you serious?
Not really, for example secular/leftists are unable name the top 5 cemaat that literally governs their country through direct influence.
Nationalists became a joke, aka Erdogs, loyalist/faithful block is boiling with Nurcu suspicions all around its sociopolitic geography along with the usual rulership free-for-all.
>And if I were to give a slightest personal information about myself now, I would be in jail before the morning. kek
I meant your stance, and perspective faggot. Not your phone number.
That is wowowowowowowharam

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so let me get this shit straight

erdomeme gets into beef with gulen because he didn't want to bend over to his demands
cia, instead of ditching gulen and trying to appease erdomeme to keep him in their pocket (by using the fact that he's in conflict with russia, a common rival), they choose to side with the guy that has no chance of toppling erdomeme. thus alienating erdomeme

then they fuck with erdomeme by telling him that his dream of becoming part of EU is a pipe dream, thus forcing him to turn to the east (russia/iran) to find durable economical partners. thus alienating him even more

now USA tries to create kurdistan giving no reason for erdomeme to even stay in NATO, thus forcing him to side militarly with the russian/syrian/iran axis to get rid of their common enemy: kurdistan

so far usa is playing to lose erdomeme and turkey

makes no sense there must be something more behind it

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>>134585868
>implying they weren't intended to destroy the white race
Coudenhove-Kalergi plan for European integration, awards for its implementation accepted by the European Commission, Angela Merkel, Martin Schulz, Bill Clinton, Pope Francis, Pope Benedict (posthumously on behalf of Saint Pope JP II), etc.

They believe that destroying the boundaries between the "ghetto-prisons" of Africa, Europe, and Asia will end "artificial selection" and create a new Afro-Eurasian master race.

>>134586359
No, I just don't seek out pics of girls much. Kinda the opposite.

>>134587515
who are you referring to "we" ?

>>134586255
yup. agreed. but i think preventing reproachment with russia is also an issue. turkey could, through common interest leave the us sphere and join the russian one - especially if this means the turks get to play big in the region in exchange. detent with iran and russia would be terrible for nato.

>>134586306
so the cia would have begun making sure it could take control way back. in the 70's it became clear i think that turkey was different. military has always been a strong influence in turkey. the cyprus dispute etc would have made them start preparing long ago. gulen would be a good vehicle.

so eu rejecting turkey is only the most recent part

turkey and russia are not in conflict. that was turkey saying look how big i am russia, you need to work with me. and now they do. they have quite good trade relations. they work together at astana.

and turkey is in conflict with nato partners. causes a fuss whenever it can to exclude countries like austria(non nato) from nato trainings.

turkey can suvive witout nato. it can survive in russian sphere with regional partner iran and qatar.

retarded is the usa pushing turkey into a position where it's interests lie closer to those of iran and russia than nato.

turkey is geopolitically important, and is a rising power. can nato survive without turkey?

>>134586359
kike. ta.
I'm also pitch black.
>They wanted to reinstate the control the craziest and scariest army that is Turkish
maybe something like this. yes.
>>134586422
they are the gardener. they keep all the flowers in bushes. they control the watering cycle. they make sure all the flowerpots close together are fighting. so that only the gardener can sort out the problems, bring water, trim the branches.

long term it's bad, because one day the gardener will die, and what is left will be a greenhouse without a gardener. short term it's good for america to keep slicing.

>>134587515
>that pic
Fuckin saved

>>134587492
Hmm.. interesting. But why am I not buying this. Oh, right...

>>134587515
>flailing in the mediterranean
>curb your enthusiasm tuba comes in

>>134587598
There is nothing behind it. Those decisions are not from one grand chess master but singular instances which pile up. People actually don't care about Turkey beyond its strategic value. So it's easy inner politics points to shit on it.

Also it's not like politicians don't try to hold their disdain of Turkey back and play nice, they just fugg up

>>134587734
>turkey could, through common interest leave the us sphere and join the russian one
(x) doubt.jpg
turkey and russian interests rarely match and they don't need a dog known to bite his owner
a neutral turkey is the best from pootang perspective imho

>>134587492
>Assad has massive amounts of support here even Bibi said he supports Assad as of recent

when was this? source?

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>>134587726
>Afro-Eurasian masterace
>masterace

>>134587515
>Or give gibs
>Turkey

Dude you are sucking Qatar dry for gibs yourself. You are in no position to provide them.

>>134587914
>>134587734
yes but so far none of the decision have been in US/NATO interests

>>134587979
>implying that I'm not describing the opinion of Count Richard of Coudenhove-Kalergi, the implementation of which is the objective of the European Union

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>>134587760

Your media would probably want you to believe otherwise.

Israeli jews arent like foreign jews, a lot of our bad reputation comes from the foreign jews that arent even really jews they just use it as excuse so they dont get prosecuted for their criminal deeds. Ever since the whole WW2 shit, a foreign jew could go on a killing spree and be pardoned because """HOLOCAUST""" it sickens us.

A lot of us in Israel are as youd say are red pilled to death. We have to deal with these threats everyday while the foreign jews think that importing radical islam is a good idea and that they will obey.

45% of Israeli jews actually agree with Hitler on some of his points. 10 years ago mentioning Hitler would get you killed now you have our news media literary saying that gassing separtists is the only option Assad has to restore peace and that we should support it. Maybe there are ulterior motives, i dont know, im just saying what I see but a lot of Israelites are in support of Assad. Give 10 years and Israel will have right wing death squads from the looks of it

>>134587598
gb2 reddit faggot.
>>134587726
>a new Afro-Eurasian master race.
My sides are orbiting Titan right now.
>No, I just don't seek out pics of girls much. Kinda the opposite.
I don't understand what you mean. I have the goods but there is a bit discussion, I would rather not disturb it.
>>134587749
>>134587792
I know,right?
I'm quite proud of it tbqh.

>>134587598
>his dream of becoming part of EU is a pipe dream
they couldn't make the reforms neccessary for joining. and it made life difficult for turkey to become the turkey that erdomeme dreams of. It would mean a turkey without hangings etc. and it would mean a new turkish regional power would instead be subjucated into european concensus. consensus - most dictators agree - it's cancer

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>>134588194
>Israeli jews arent like foreign jews, a lot of our bad reputation comes from the foreign jews that arent even really jews
wow
even jews use the arab "muh diaspora doesnt represent us" excuse
not so many differences after all :^)

>>134588303
>his dream of becoming part of EU
he doesn't actually dream about this, right? there was never any chance that that was gonna happen, we dangle that shit over him for sport, don't tell me he doesn't play along sarcastically

>>134587598
the CIA is run by {{{greeks}}} who want anatolia back

>>134587598
Some people believe in global conspiracies and that there is one group ruling everything with perfect foresight and omniscience and omnipotence.

The truth is that there's 7 billion people running around on this planet, each doing their own thing and having their own opinions/ideas/desires. A country has tens of thousands of people in its government and numerous organization and groups each composed of departments and subgroups and alliances and conspiracies and left-hand-attacking-right-hand dysfunctionality. Not to mention they're all mostly average people who (like most people) make mistakes all the time, and no matter how good your procedures, mistakes always slip through somewhere.

Nobody is in control, nobody can predict things accurately. The world is chaos.

>>134587049
submission sailor stars

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>>134587726
source of the original please

>>134588121
Our government is not the brightest bulb around the region. They give disgusting amount of gibsmedat to the Syrian trash. I wouldn't put it past behind them.

Please don't feed the kikes (You)'s.

>>134588194
Yeah, well, that's cooln and everything, but overlords from DC and TA does not give a fuck about it. Tho I wish you good luck in unfucking yourselves.

>>134588551
may bratwurst prices always remain low for you and your family

>>134588519
Once again we agree, frietkotbro

>>134588590
Black Lagoon. Characters name is Revy or Levy

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>>134587598
Gülen's organization is an international organization, it is beyond useful to influence muslim cuountries, they can't dump this shit just like that. Erdofag is screaming at U.S. to give the Gülen to him but they just laugh at him. But still, it is not as strategic as Turkey for USA. I don't know the motivation behind their actions.

>>134587515
I am pretty much natural at this point, waiting for a new movement to worth supporting.

>>134587734
I don't think it is that easy to leave NATO for Turkey. Our whole equipment production and standards are the same with NATO. And I don't think we can survive the economical sanctions if we were to leave NATO and join Shanghai 5, it is just too risky. USA might be relying on us not having the balls to leave.

>>134588796
oh wait did i say source? oops, i meant to ask for the picture

>>134588519
yes but so far every US plans was toward loosing turkey
this is what i don't understand
i'm not talking about the other players, just US strategy toward turkey

>>134587944
>(x) doubt.jpg

well if u think about it, american sponsorship of kurdistan threatens the very existence of turkey in its current form. a kurdish state would act as sponsor to terror in turkey and possibly even raise the nationalist fervor of kurds in turkey. long term risk in that case is 1/3 of turkey in the east being peeled away and joining with kurdistan under american protection. Boom. Turkey broken.

the reason turkish and russian interests have not matched is because they have been on opposite ends of the divide. however, turkey may realise that the russians are not talking about creating a kurdish state that threatens turkeys integrity, no it is their 'friends' the americans.

russia and turkey could long term come to dividing the region into zones of interest that seek to entrench the status quo. and turkey needs to integrate with someone. that someone could be russia. i'm talking long term - 30 -80 years.
so you doubt is based on misinformation.

>>134588973
Yeah, some burger should explain this one.
Why does US not deliver Gulen to Erdomeme?

>>134588124
correct. nato is playing a hamfisted game.
either the anons here see the position more clearly than them, or they are playing to fuck this up.

negligence or malice tho, the results are just the same for syrians and iraqi's.

these sorts of games shouldn't be played by people who still use training wheels.

>>134588973
The US has no strategy. Or rather, they have 5 strategies at the same time. That's why the CIA is supporting terrorist groups while at the same time the DoD is bombing them.

Turkey isn't going anywhere soon. Erdocuck is chained to NATO whether he likes it or not.

>>134588871
>Gülen's organization is an international organization, it is beyond useful to influence muslim cuountries, they can't dump this shit just like that
make sense
but why not make an exception for turkey since erdomeme has too much control to be replaced by a puppet
they should manipulate him for their plans in ME and against russia instead of strengthening their regional rivals
erdomeme wont go easily and turkey's power can't be neutered by kurdish proxies so they might just as well use him for now and put their subversion operations on pause in the meantime

>>134589137
>the anons here see the position more clearly than them
naw, the big players are not stupid. But their decisions are not made based upon the most intelligent insights but on a consensus of all interests. And some of those are just dumb as shit. Just imagine that /pol/ has to make decisions based upon /sg/ and /ptg/ opinion. Do think the best solution would result?

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>>134588486
no. turkey wants to become regional strongman. eu wanted it as a buffer against those heathens in the desert. and russia. conveniently placed.

turkey can probably play all sides or join either. turkey wants 'an understanding' that means it is recognised as the big boss in the me. it's not there yet. but which ever side gives it this new role will also be the side that turkey is friends with. if i were a betting man, i would say russia looks like a stronger contender in the long term to be the party that recognises these turkish interests.

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>>134588871
>I am pretty much natural at this point, waiting for a new movement to worth supporting.
So am I.
I'm turbo conservative and nationalist though, so you would probably hate me.
>Burn Syrians and Kurds on spike.
>Build wall along all borders
>Do blackmarket type Chinese business model bootleg products of everything and crash the EU prices
>Fuck EU
These are kind of my immediate concerns.

>But still, it is not as strategic as Turkey for USA. I don't know the motivation behind their actions.
Saving face.
Any intelligence agency that can't protect its own assets will lose the current/useful ones very quickly and will have trust issues with the groups that they may decide to support in the future.
Who is that guy by the way?

>>134589137

There are also competing interests to factor in. The reason, for example, the US is so hard to predict is because you have to understand the schism between the Pentagon and the intelligence apparatus, and that is just to simplify it.

Trying to discern the decision-making coming out of Bussels (in terms of the EU) is a fool's errand, and I'm sure someone like Erdomeme finds it schizophrenic at best.

>>134589306
>Erdocuck is chained to NATO whether he likes it or not.
he has more to win by telling NATO to fuck off with their kurdish plans and side with russia
his interests match more the one of russia than the one of US in the regional thater

>>134589122
it gives them more power over turkey

So . Just checking in to ask . What is the general consensus on the Kurdish movements ?

>>134588871
>the balls to leave
erdomeme only has these. i am not sure he has a brain. thats the problem. " A bold new direction for turkey, that I as a bold brave turk...." I can see the translated captions rolling across the video already

>>134589747

Trying to lump them together as a (((people))) is silly, and anyone who tries to do so will not achieve their goals in the region.

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>>134584699
>tfw you actually got dubz so you almost got a trip yourself

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>>134581881
>>134581900

Thank God, I finally found this bread

>>134589747
Destroy.

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>>134589747
Apart from the terrorists themselves, /sg/ pretty much unanimously dislike them, to my delight really.

>>134589618
what power ?
literally so far erdomeme has been getting more and more control both inside the country (with the purges) and in the region
US is just trying to piss off erdomeme even more
is accelerationism their real plan ?

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>>134589747
>What is the general consensus on the Kurdish movements ?
mental gymnastics between wishing a mountainroach holocaust upon them within syria, while liking them if they keep their seperatism limited to roach clay

>>134589846
Mostly true .
However . Does anyone here have anything against the Kurds .
Any articles . Evidence or other misc stuff ?

>>134589861

*Nose bleed*

>>134589122
>>134589618
>Why does US not deliver Gulen to Erdomeme?

Are Turkey officially requested Gulen departure from US or Erdomeme just talking about "muh US do not give us Gulen"?

>>134589318
Another thing is that using Kurds will only make the CHP crowd develop a bigger distrust of the West

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>>134589469
How about a new map?

>>134589469
There were legit no pic proofs of Euphrates gains....

Prepare for disappointment again

>>134589449
>Do think the best solution would result?
I know these anons. I've seen them bomb rebels when they didn't even have a buget, never mind an airforce or a logistics train. I've worked with them, spreading the word, making memes.

I believe if /sg were tasked with making the best solution, then /sg alone, would make the best god dammned solution you or anyone else saw.

I believe this.

>>134589973

(((HRW))) has done a few articles on the about their political repression, but it seems like there is more bubbling under the surface, and they are holding back due to HRW supporting US interests.

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>>134590004
I've made 2 with a real Brazilian girl now.

>>134590073
and increasing the support toward erdogan controlled AKP
literally JUST fuck my plans up

>>134589973
With regards to the current situation? Look up the paper titled "We Had Nowhere Else To Go"

>hoholmaps refusing to update with accurate information
It's 2014 all over again

>>134589973
We could start with recent cleansing done by SDF to random dude and one old guy.

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>>134590109
Please do one with both theaters.

If I were Erdomeme, and I get threatened with a Kurdistand, I'd make ridiculous demands of EU and NATO countries and threaten to leave NATO otherwise.
Because if Kurdistan becomes reality anyways might as well get the best out of it and make them bleed before stabbing 'em in the back

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>>134590251
Can't
>been getting pic related for a W E E K now

Redpill me on Assad

>>134589598
yes. a turkey that is a strong regional power cannot be part of too many things that tie it down.

>>134590196
>I've made 2 with a real Brazilian girl now.

Bro, how do you have so much creativity?

>>134590251
>>134590196
why is your taste so shitty

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>>134590373
tl;dr
he dindu nuffin if you forget about all the corruption,nepotism and slightly overplaying their diplomatic hand

>>134589615
Side with Russia and do what? The amount of economic repercussions this would have would lead to a revolution within months, even without obvious CIA tricks.

In addition, if you're in NATO you just have to suck the US's cock, if you're allied with Russia you not only have to suck their cock, you have to let them fuck you up the ass first. There's no way Turkey would come out better by ditching NATO. It would be cutting off your nose to spite your face.

>>134590243
That is interesting . Do you have any articles relating to that ?

>>134590161
yeah that's the point I wanted to get at. /sg/ might come to a great solution but then there are also thousands of other retards on /pol/ who get to say their opinion. And that's how a state makes a decision. Not everyone gets a high position on merit, you know?

>>134590109
Same

>>134589747
The kurds must be destroyed.

>>134590373
tl:dr
our guy

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>>134589318
>they should manipulate him for their plans in ME and against russia instead of strengthening their regional rivals
They were doing it since 90's. Seems like something has changed. Maybe it's Erdofag had enough of being their dog, maybe internal politics of AKP forced him. (less likely) There are lot's of possibilities why they hang to their assets. Erdofag is sick, maybe they expect him to die soon. Maybe they just increase the tension to see how far he can go, I just don't know.

>>134589551
>Burn Syrians and Kurds on spike.
Eved.
>Build wall along all borders
Dinliyorum.
>Do blackmarket type Chinese business model bootleg products of everything and crash the EU prices
İyi fikir. :DDDD
>Fuck EU
Agreed.

How are you conservative tho? Do you mean religiously? Culturally? I see myself as a nationalist too but none of that "turan" or "tigier-er :-DDD" bullshit.

Pic related was Osman Pamuk, founder of HEPAR.

>>134589782
Lol yeah, we are pretty used to that rhetoric.

>>134589747
FREE KURDISTAN
FREE BALOCHISTAN
FREE THE WESTERN SAHARA
FREE ISRAEL

Question:

Why hasn't Assad used paratroopers as part of his overall strategy yet?

I mean, say you drop 50 paratroops into an isolated army base overnight and overwhelm the small garrison, then just carpet bomb the surrounding area while dropping in further reinforcements. It's an easy way to attract ISIS away from their front lines.

134590744
everyone ignore this pasta, pls

>>134590534
I've come across it on twitter, plus some reports of kurds expelling arabs from their homes. Would have to search through to find it.

>>134590518
good point
but erdomeme is forced to at least distance himself from NATO if he wants to keep his plans for regional power and preventing the creation of kurdistan

>>134590744
I think that that is a very risky strategy .
They could be shot down . They could be fucked in the ass in every possible way .
They can land on the wrong position .

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>>134590744

Oh, you're back again today. Did our answers yesterday not satisfy you? Go research why Arab armies fail.

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>>134590373
>opposed to zionism and jews
>opposed to the global banking system
>opposed to salafi wahhabism
>nationalist
>secularist
>protects minorities

also the chemical attacks were faked, look up Prof. Theodore Postol from the MIT

>>134590841

He changed the format of the post, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

>>134590948
But Assad / Russia has total dominance of the air. Plus ISIS are used to seeing cargo planes flying over to drop supplies to Deir Zor. All you need to do is get a couple of gliders, cut the engines and glide silently over some remote desert outpost where there's like 20 ISIS max, and take them out quickly and then absolutely destroy the surrounding area.

>>134591024
he never addressed any concerns/responses in a legit way, he just rephrased it with another stupid idea about cavalery attack and whatnot. It's RTS arguments to grind (you)s

@WithinSyriaBlog 2 hours ago
over 15 group defected from Ahrar Al-Sham to HTS , Ahrar Al-Sham is almost over , HTS took Darat Izah today

@WithinSyriaBlog 13 hours ago
Ghutah agreement put an end to many corrupted people ,an official crossing point is needed by civilians and both sides

Good-night, crew.

>>134590892
Absolutely, he's a pain in the ass, but he's (most likely) not going to walk outside of the boundaries, he's just pushing to see if he can move them a bit. It's a dynamic system.

He's not in an enviable position though, if he sides with Russia, the US will support Kurdistan. If he stays a faithful NATO lapdog, Russia will support Kurdistan. Probably not to the point where they can actually become an independent state, but enough to keep draining energy and resources away from Turkey. The more time they have to spend on dealing with Kurds, the less time they spend on being annoying to the rest of the world.

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>>134591185

oh god, now he's talking about WWII tech in modern warfare. I'm done. No more (you)'s for him

>>134587492
why would your news publications be speaking in support of assad?

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>>134590448
i think finding the right tit size is the constraint.

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>>134584659
SOON
O
O
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>>134591156
Does Syria even have capable paratroopers right now?
Russians are not doing paradrops, minimalising their own casualties etc

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>>134591499
>Does Syria even have capable paratroopers right now?

>>134591343
>Russia will support Kurdistan
doubt that
it goes against syrian interests plus it creates a stronger presence for US thus putting russia in an even more delicate position

>>134591429
the answer is flat.

>>134591429
>biggest is still too small
is the right mindset for that

>>134591185
I have received literally zero serious rebuttals to any of the tactical suggestions I have offered.

Believe me kiddo, I defeated the Germanics in Rome: Total War 1 easily, never even lost a battle (on Very Hard Mode btw) thanks to the fact I out-manouvered their slow but effective pikemen formations. Want to know who has maxed out every single city in RT1? That would be me. Want to know who owns every single province except one? Me again. And I could take that province whenever I want to. I have 12 armies (full stack btw) surrounding it on all sides, but I'm just biding my time, invading now and then to defeat their pitiful army and then withdrawing again to see them attempt to rebuild their nation from the ashes. Assad would do well to take a piece of advice or two from a guy like me. That means paratroops. That means cavalry and bayonet charges. That means damming the rivers. It means paying for mercenary longbowmen from Lebanon. It means victory, is what it means.

>>134591499
No.

They have don't have the infrastructure, the military doctrine, nor leadership capable of handling such a unit properly.

>>134591640
o sht

>>134591640
kek
have a (you) for the chuckle

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>>134590689
>How are you conservative tho? Do you mean religiously? Culturally? I see myself as a nationalist too but none of that "turan" or "tigier-er :-DDD" bullshit.
5 times a day, literally puritan.
I have to take a couple minutes to recall when was the last time I lied.
Sometimes I sit down and get melancholic about the broads I didn't fuck because muh purity.
Culturally, not that much. I don't support muh Ottoman, neither muh Turan. First 9 padişah's were extremely well educated in theology and absolutely based in ruling, but I always lean towards romanticizing the 12th/13th Anatolian Turko-Islam, benevolent but prude, spiritual atmosphere.
If I have to make a couple more political sentences; ISIS, Hizbullah, Saudis are all traitors that needs to be baked. The fall off Egypt was traumatic, the last beacon of Islamic thought of school have betrayed Mursi and sided with Sisi faggot.

>>134591499
Syria has awesome paratroopers, and even if it doesn't, Assad can just hire mercenaries or trick some tribesmen into putting on a parachute and telling them they're going to Deir Eizor or on a free adventure or a training mission. As long as you draw ISIS away from the front lines, that's what matters. I even have an invention I am willing to give away the rights to for free: blue parachute uniforms and parachutes worn OVER desert camouflage. Camouflaged in the air? Check. Camouflaged out of the air? Check again.

>>134590535
i agree. and a lot of the cock up is probably that.

but the overall strategic direction? in 15 years, since the fall of saddam, has been an increasingly dire and marginal security situation, declining economic situation and standards of living, which spawned a rebellion, which conveniently spread into the territory of an unfriendly nation...all just through clumsy ham fisted meanderings of a failed beaurocracy.

It's like they designed the perfect storm. A degenrate rot seeping through the fabric of the region. And they ocassionally did something flashy to show that they cared, but didn't quite hit the spot. and the rot spread. for fifteen years.

i dunno man. i get what you are saying. but if these guys work with multiyear objectives, then the scary thing is to start thinking that this isn't just the result of short term descision making and going on a ride hoping it comes out somewhere nice. even tho that can explain it. but it's not a good explanation.

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>>134591697
that's what I thought
imagine trying to train ayyrabs in using a parachute

>>134591332
gn

>>134591640
That's a spicey

>>134591934
why are hizbullah traitors from your perspective ?
also
do you want another caliphate ?

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>>134591940
>syria has awesome paratroopers
>even if it doesn't

>>134591625
skyf

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>>134592131
They're trained enough as it is, thank you very much. Operation Muslim Garden will give the victory Assad so desperately craves in one fell swoop.

>>134591640
one day when only robots know how to do the fighting, these words will have real meaning...

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>>134591934
It is hard to believe someone as conservative as you could hang in a place like 4chan which is full of atrocities. kek
I am not religious myself.
Are you sunni? shafi? alawite? What are you?

>>134591612
Kurdistan is much less against Syria than it is against Turkey, though. In addition, the area is lost to Assad anyway, it would take so many resources to take it back violently - and for what? They're going to have to spend the next generation rebuilding the rest of the country already, why fight a continuation war?

Sooner or later the US is going to have to choose between Turks and Kurds. They'll probably shaft the Kurds (again) which is where Russia can come in.

>>134592318
You're gonna have to speak a real language.

>>134591989
the original question was about singular decisions not fitting in a perceived overreaching objective.
Longterm overarching plans are an entirely different topic. This stuff gets done by putting a certain type of people in positions of power, funding studies, influencing media. For that there certainly is an argument.
I just wanted to point out that singular decisions don't need to be the best one can make and certainly never are

>>134591940
its a whole supply thing. they land helicopters there when they can with troop rotations, injuries and supplies.

the more folks they bring into the region, the more helicopters they will need. so they either need to fly in thousands, and keep supplying htem until they can help build the connection to the outside.

logisitics is the biggest killer

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>>134592500
Soutpiel detected

>>134592463
don't need to take it violently
he can regain it by threatening them to let them fend off against turkey
so they would choose to get back under assad protection in exchange of limited autonomy

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>>134590109

>>134592500
your post made no sense to me.
i thought you must be tripping.
so i asked you to pass the joint u must be smoking.

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>>134590402
DNA

>>134590373
>Opposed to ZOG, has been endorsed by David Duke and held official Syrian Arab Republic events with him
>Opposed to al-Qaeda, ISIS, and their entire denomination
>Russian ally
>not Communist
>Protects Christians.
>has done nothing wrong

>>134590335
Wow that sucks.

>>134592665
proxyfag more likely
even a soutie would know that.

>>134592829
Yeah and you asked me in some inferior language.

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>>134593045
tell me. what is the superior language then.
tell me how u eben a saffa when u can't tune?
proxyfag. 'k sien vir jou mama se poenanie. I can check it.

>>134593164
why does a Belgian flag know south African slang?

>>134590109
do you have the iraqi one ?

>>134593273
English ofcourse.
>can't tune
lowborne dutchie detected, how's Brakpan?

>JULANI REPORTED DEAD
JULANI REPORTED DEAD
>JULANI REPORTED DEAD
JULANI REPORTED DEAD
>JULANI REPORTED DEAD
JULANI REPORTED DEAD
>JULANI REPORTED DEAD


STUPID ASS*DISTS HAVE NO EXCUSE FOR THEIR MURDERS NOW

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>>134592288
>why are hizbullah traitors from your perspective ?
That would be beyond your intellectual and theological comprehension.
Worry not you are hardly alone.
>do you want another caliphate ?
Obligatory, yes. But the qualified management and juridical HR doesn't exist to build a caliphate in a fucking town, let alone national level.
>>134592442
>What are you?
Unicorn.
>mfw

>I am not religious myself.
Shamefur.
>It is hard to believe someone as conservative as you could hang in a place like 4chan which is full of atrocities. kek
Good question. Because I think trench is where you are hardened and taught what actually matters. I also believe in the notion that a faith that is untested is no faith at all.
In here I'm surrounded by the heretics who aggressively desecrate every holy value that anybody keeps, but especially the ones that I possess. Their (((arguments))), standpoints all together forms a gestalt that is the bane of my essence. Because anonymity strips down unrelated human elements and purifies this to its utmost pinnacle, I'm actually challenged.
Remaining faithful after this exposure is something I weirdly value a lot regarding my character and beliefs. I also am humbled with the notion that we are all humans that are struggling with similar problems, some spiritual, some intellectual and some economical, an observation that must be inevitable for a person who have spent some time along this side of the internet.
It is quite possible that I may simply act dogmatic, and turn a blind eye to every atrocity that is thrown to my face here, but I think logical forms that I maintain which are built on my theological knowledge are not phony.

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>>134594062

@DrJillStein Jul 21

Unlike the Dems, I didn't sabotage Bernie Sanders in the primaries, then try to cover my tracks with ludicrous Russia conspiracy theories.

--

yknow I dont even like this woman but.. amen to that shit

>>134593497
mah brah. it's universal.
it's a word that cuts across the race and language divide. there isn't a noetsie sheltered enough in this whole country to have isolated you from this knowledge.

find another proxy. try harder.

>>134594062
>That would be beyond your intellectual and theological comprehension.
Worry not you are hardly alone.
do you think you're talking to a kaffir ?
so tell me what's the beef with hizbullah
and don't give me the retarded they're shiia

>Obligatory, yes. But the qualified management and juridical HR doesn't exist to build a caliphate in a fucking town, let alone national level
overton window
we start at our national level and we end up uniting when we reach a certain level of coordination
slowly at first (like united states) then we merge fully

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>>134588194
JIDF

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>>134593331
afrikaans is interesting, it's just an odd version of dutch

>>134594062
i detect an onur balkhar

is dat u ottoman? army teaching you about more than shitposting and trolling?

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>>134594192
Pic related 4u.
>>134594385
Learn to capitalize and form coherent sentences first. It is a drag to ascertain what you are trying to say.

Also, 0/10 apply yourself kike.

>>134594332
skyf? Can't say I've every heard someone say that.
Must be a lowborn thing or something children say. Only Afrikaans people I deal with are 30+.

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>>134594702
i see better who you are
always elusive and covering your flag
thanks for wasting my time jewish jew

>>134594483
>interesting

it must sound undisciplined and corrupted. the lack of grammar alone should kill a horse, never mind a delicate belgian.

did u understand the slang meaning or just the normal meaning of the word?

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Is this what happens when you swallow only half a redpill?

>>134592756
I think that's the most likely outcome, where they become de facto independent but de jure still under Syrian jurisdiction. Assad gets a quiet part of the country that still pays some taxes and spends its creative energy toward annoying Turkey, everybody happy.

>>134594851
Nah, they're garden variety /leftypol/.

>>134594913
yup but it's a real geopolitical mess
the lines are very blurry

>>134594735
> Only Afrikaans people I deal with are 30+
Nice try. It's something english people say too, and darkies. There's literally no saffa i know who does not understand the word and the meaning. Even if u never did, you cannot but see and hear. There is no golf estate isolated and precious enough to have isolated you from this knowledge. You would know this even if u lived in michael jacksons oxygen tent your whole life.

CONFESS

>>134594913
>>134595054

I don't think Assad is going to just hand northern Syria to the PYD/Barzani, but might allow them to run for office in municipalities it has majority population in. One of the major issues is reconciling the displaced peoples from the region that are refugees because of direct action of the PYD.

It is going to take years of negotiations, and will probably be undermined by multiple sources.

>>134594913
and what about the US bases?

Are there precedent somewhere in teh world about US bases on de jure illegal bases?

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>>134594062

In short, Kebab

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>>134594062
>Remaining faithful after this exposure is something I weirdly value a lot regarding my character and beliefs.
That's nice. At least you sound sane unlike many who calls themselves muslims over here. If you're doing something, you have to do it right. I am sure you also criticize your religion a lot.

I was watching the debate between Caner Taslaman and Ebubekir Sifil the other day. The topics and the way they discussed was really disgusting. What are your thoughts on "Hadis" and sunni/wahabi islam which is currently being imposed to our people?

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>>134595244
Honestly never heard it.
Try speaking a real language up there.

>>134595361

also this. The US won't leave any time soon. They might reduce the number of bases they run in the area, but there will still be some around. They aren't going to make the same mistake they made in Iraq and just hand them over to the Kurds, and they certainly aren't going to give them to anyone else. Also, what is going to happen to all the materiel that was given to the kurds recently?

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>>134594851
БЛЯДЬ!

>>134595361
>Are there precedent somewhere in teh world about US bases on de jure illegal bases?
they aren't illegal per definition ,when a non state actor occupies land (ypg in this case) international humanitarian war (the faggot name for int. law on war) applies
according to art, 27-34 and 47-78 of the geneva conventions 4th protocol + some hague regulation who set limits to what an occupant is allowed to do, doesn't not prohibit the building of those US bases
tl;dr there's no precedent

>>134596505
>there's no precedent
not even in the balkans?

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>tfw a close friend and my grandpa died today but it's okay because euphrates gains confirmed
I'm drunk.

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>>134595539
>this pleb's never laced his skyf with mandrax
You're missing out.

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>>134595535
>Caner Taslaman and Ebubekir Sifil
1- Literally who?
2- I have seen it superficially, and get disgusted by it immediately.
Seems like generic MSM slide to me.
>What are your thoughts on "Hadis" and sunni/wahabi islam which is currently being imposed to our people?
>Hadis
That is one of the main department (there are 5) of Islam theology. I don't mean to insult, but neither me nor you possess the necessary knowledge base to discuss something of that fundamental and broad topic.
For all intentions and purposes, they are an integral part of the faith and backed very solidly by the holy book .
>sunni/wahabi islam which is currently being imposed to our people?
Generic D&C kikery, business as usual.
5 pillars along with avoiding committing a cardinal sin is the bare minimum requirement for being a muslim . Go check'em, and see how many people actually qualifies.
What are your thoughts regarding them, I wonder how it looks from an outsider view?

>>134597178
doubt it

vaping is white and based.

>>134597046

F

Condolences man, it's ok to cry don't use alcohol bruh no bueno for you.

>>134597046
feelsbadman.jpeg

>>134597046
F

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>>134597535
Only normies pics for you, lad

>>134597390
so how is it u don't understand afrikaans?
It's a compulsory subject, even today in all white schools, unless u did venda or something.
either u didn't matriculate, or u not a saffa.

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>>134596505
>doesn't not prohibit the building of those US bases
nothing prohibits the building of those US bases*
jesus what the fuck,what a mess of a sentence
>>134594827
>did u understand the slang meaning or just the normal meaning of the word?
the word "skyf" was completely unkown to me tbqh
most of the times i can understand afrikaans but your grammar is really something else...verbs especially
>>134596656
the legality of their presence determines the legality of the base in the end, there's just nothing specific about the construction of military bases itself (can be seen as a breach of someone's sovereignity as in UN charter art 4 imho)
Oh well, if only the US played by the rules...

>>134597178
kek.

>>134590744
>>134590961

See this video:

https://youtu.be/cZk4Yu42g0I

Basically: Arabs in general have no military history post Ottoman empire or strong warrior code nor are good coordinators. Commanders are loyalty based usually and corruption is rampant. Moral is low and training is meh. Arab armies are garbage.

>>134597859
>remembering pointless things
Afrikaans is dumb as fuck, why would you ever speak it.

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>>134597540
I'm okay man, my grandpa was an alcoholic that was hated by everyone.
Too bad about my friend though, he was one of swedens best tattoo artists. I will miss his epic bbq's.
Had a good time with my friends anyways, no tears, only dreams now.

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>>134598145

Regardless mate the little family that is /sg/ is here for you. Hoping you feel better soon. Have a goose!

Fug guys. Had to abandon the last thread when I heard screaming outside my house. Turned out some pit bull had grabbed this sweet old dog by the neck and was shaking it about. The dog lived, but it was super spooped out afterwards and just wanted to have pets. Feelsbadman. 72 virgins to whoever can guess what the owner of the pit bull looked liked.