most eastern europeans i talk to dislike socialism and socialist

>>134547733
>Germans are cucks

More breaking news to follow.

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>Die Linke has never been even in parliament for its entire existence in Bavaria
>SchulzPD is meme tier opposition
Eastern Germany eternally BTFO.

>>134547733
Germans are an exceptionally honest and peaceful breed. A socialist system would work out if it was just us. And that's just what the GDR was. Poor, but happy.

>>134551299
>poor but happy
>what is the fucking Stasi?
Is that what your parents told you about the GDR, Jeremy-Pascal? I swear to god, socialist nostalgist are the fucking worst. At least we're not as filled with them as Russia.

>>134551568
Stasi was a secret police, an undemocratic society can't really function without it. The nationalist paradise you want Germany to be would need a secret police as well.

>>134551568
>fuck the police
hello antifa

>>134551875
>The nationalist paradise you want Germany to be would need a secret police as well.
Where in all heavens did I claim I want a "nationalist paradise"? A secret police is only needed if you have a incredibly centralized government that needs to keep its power by force. The more decentralized and self sufficent governing is, the less control is needed.

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>>134552037
>EU flag
>likes the Stasi
Gee, who would have seen that one coming?

>>134548097
This

>>134552112
>decentralized and self sufficent

In other words, democratic.

>>134552214
You're free to leave.

>>134552451
>infecting another country with a german
A crime as far as I am concerned.

>>134552366
>democracy
>self sufficent
Democracy requires heaps of bureaucracy. Just because it is heralded as the opposite of dictatorships and fascism doesn't make it that. Democracies are nothing more than dictatorships that cover that fact by granting people a small voice. In the end they can only decide who is in charge of limiting their rights and taking away their money.

>>134552650
What blithering nonsense. Every German citizen has political power, and many of us utilize it. Not my fault you're a social retard whose autism made him believe tyranny is unavoidable.

>>134547733
https://youtu.be/2IPVLQiK2ps

>>134553364
Instead of insulting me, how about you actually tell me what power the German citizen wields? Changing the ruling party means jackshit. Not only will the overall system stay the same, now they even have the power of influencing people into voting them through state media. Do you think the ARD and ZDF are fucking non biased? The government is shilling nonstop against the AfD so they won't be challenged for their power. It goes so far that if you disagree with the state media narrative you're called a lunatic and or extremist. How in all heavens can you claim that the people have political power if there are so many tools for the elites to influence them?

>>134553829
Free democratical system.
Feel free to inform everyone about that they are lied to and feel free to find your own party and try to gain the power to change the system.
Whining that everything is wrong and that it can't be changed will get you nowhere idiot.

>>134556106
Look at the AfD. It's an uphill battle. You're getting defamed and blackmailed and there are even fucking cases of people losing their jobs over supporting them and liking their facebook page. I'm sorry I don't want to risk my entire life just so I can champion a good cause with the democratic means the glorious state has granted us.

>>134556106
didnt some anti free speech laws get passed that was connect to the gay marriage bill?

I cant speak for democracy as a whole, I know other kruat is right about bureaucracy, its more about who right the bill then signs it, and it doesnt help that you live in one of the most free speech restrictive countries in the west. Kinda ironic if you think about, especially so since those laws are probably meant to stop antisemitism and neo-nazis but in reality restricting free speech hurts evreyone

>>134547733
it is like they were controlled by Communists or something....

>>134556639
Yeah, the law made it easier to persecute people that commit hate speech in social networks. And you're right, these limitations and laws hurt both sides, but it's dependent on who is in charge. These laws are looking like a setup for going full Reich mode, only that lefties are using it this time.

>>134547733
because east germans are communist rape babies

>>134556899
this...

eastern germans generally hate "establishment parties" and will vote anything outside of it, left and right

>>134547733
I can tell you that in czech rep and slovakia it is the same as well. You just havent talked to enough people.

To be honest I have a bit of this nostalgia in me as well. Overall, current democracy is better than socialsm, but not in all aspects.

I'd rather be poor than 'enriched'. That being said the DDR was a failed state like every other leftist country.

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East Germany hates religion and wants a wall.

Muslims don't like those sorts of things.

>>134558453
>The East votes Die Linke
Obviously, they want muslims aswell.

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>>134547733
>reading about all those West German socialist cucks who fled to east Germany
>the schadenfreude knowing they probably regretted it in an instant and not allowed to go back

>>134547733
Poland loves socialism and EU shekels

>>134556439
So you are not even willing to try? Guess that put's you in the same place as the retards not even voting and trying to tell everybody why the wrong people are in chrage.
Every change has to start somewhere and if you want change work for it or STFU.

>>134547733
>its quite strange amount of ex-east germans seem to have a weird form of nostalgia even those on the right wing could a german friend please explain why this is the case
Easy. East Germany was the least cucked country of our cucks, we didn't control them as much as Poland or Hungary.
Serbs love socialism too because they were sovereign, and, obviously, Russians and some of the Soviet Republics.
Ironically, the Ukrainians have a rather high approval of it.

>>134547733
Because east Germany was annexed into eternal shame and self-humiliation land. Of course they long after the time when their Germany at least had some amount of self-respect. Since the last time they had that was under socialism, then socialism must have been the reason.

>>134551875
The Stasi were the most brutal and conniving organization to ever exist in Europe. 70% of the GDR population worked for them directly or as informants. Look up Zersetzung.

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90% of russians want USSR back. Those 90% vote for commie Putin.

>>134557858
tell me about it
half of the old people here are gommie nostalgics who miss the gibs
the kind of trash that retires at 50 after NEETing their entire life and complaining about not having a big pension

>>134547733
>nostalgia
It doesen't necessary means the liked socialism. More like the simple way of living under it. Not for the actual system.
Cunt.