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Were the moon landings faked? What's /pol/'s take

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Were the moon landings faked? What's /pol/'s take on it?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-21/did-elon-musk-just-confirm-moon-landings-were-faked
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It was faked because the Americans realised too late that Aliens have a shitton of bases on the moon.
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Let's see some russian. chinese, indian or japanese photos of the apollo landers

Oh wait, only american probes can photograph the things

*prove me wrong by circling another country's image of the apollo landers in mspaint and uploading it here. Protip: you can't
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>>134448070
and visitors are not welcome, much of the original footage had to be remade in the studios.
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>>134448433
they had no idea how to explain the fuckhuge towers or the obvious artificial structures on the moon.
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Use the old lunar orbiter photos for the best anomalies.
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>>134448070
>>134448433
>>134448610
basically this
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>>134447725
The first one, maybe.
But America has been to the moon. Look up the lunar ranging experiment. We put reflectors there to accurately measure the distance. An experiment that anyone can do, getting a laser maybe pricey but not impossible at all.
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>>134448763
true dat
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Americans got to the moon.

they were promptly told to fuck off

they had to hire stanley kubrick to shoot the footage

i bet all the ayys laughed at us

we came up their with a little shit shack mobile home
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ayys don't like visitors from earth on their base

>stay home homo sapiens, moon is none of your business.
is the message that the astronauts received and they left without putting up a fight.
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I love telling people I don't think we went to the moon. It's the socially acceptable way of saying you don't believe in the Lolocaust.
Makes them spit feathers.
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>>134449182
>stay home homo sapiens, moon is none of your business.
this pisses me off, it kind of is though. Without the moon we wouldn't exist, so if they are harvesting it, it is our god damn business.
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>>134447725
here comes dat bread
again
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Wrong board, go to /x/. Shill that shit up instead of shilling it here. I get that you've got a paycheck drawing you here, but seriously just kill yourself.
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>>134447725
This is garbage and zerohedge should kill it immediately if it wants to retain any kind of credibility.

Take the stereoscopic evidence, for example. You can see the background shifting BEHIND the line as well, more closer to the line and less farther away from the line.

You cant fake that with a fucking backdrop.

The line they drew on is nice and thick, too. My bet is it obscures the top of a small rise in the moondust. Everything behind that rise would necessarily be much further away suddenly, giving rise to the drop in stereoscopic shift.
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>>134447725
>first one
maybe.
>the ones that followed
no.
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>>134449312
you don't know how deep the rabbit hole really goes eh?

many things point to it that aliens actually BUILD our moon and that our moon is an artificial made satellite, some tests reported that upon crashing a probe on the moon it rung like a bell hinting that its actually hollow, to some degree. they found artificial material on the moon that hints at left over byproducts of nuclear fission and other material that is not natural.

the whole story how our moon was created just doesn't really fit into the picture.
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>what are van allen belts
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We've been to the moon but we faked the moon landings.
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>>134449363
i should develop on this post

this is the 3 monkeys from the Manhattan project

in the east were the 3 monkeys originated

is how to behave in public such as not cursing and behaving good

but in the west it's basically means to not narc on people

like gangster movies would tell people they didn't see anything or they died
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It is as real as the iss
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>>134449959
Why fake it tho?
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>>134450030
if some asshole showed up to your house and started filming shit what would you do?
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>>134448952
that's a fake anon. it hath no frame number and is shopped to shit. .

Never do selenography high. Never trust a pic that has no frame number, they cannot be verified.
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>>134450030
so the public doesn't find out about the aliens
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>>134447725
No I don't think they were.
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>>134450005
oh shit. it's all fake huh
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>>134449803
I remember reading all that a while back actually aside from the crash landing. Really interesting stuff, makes you think what role they play in our existence and why.
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>>134450149
So your'e saying that someone or something were alredy there when we landed?
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>>134450005
That chicks hair doesn't even look like it's floating. It looks like it's frozen in place and intentionally styled that way
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>>134450005
explain?
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>>134447725
Moon landings happened, but some of the footage and pictures were fake
Regardless it's a complete non-issue. If they faked it all, if USA never went to the moon at all, all it really means is that they wanted to wave their dick at Russia. It's not the cold war anymore so it is not even relevant anymore.
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>>134450266
But at the same time it looks like her necklace is floating. Idk what to believe
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>>134450202
I always wondered that desu, but why is this information being suppressed from us??
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>>134450296
your gravity is really just hollywood tricks with fishing line
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>>134448819
That's on phobos.
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Wouldnt the Russians have been watching and know if the mission took place?
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>>134447725
If they were faked, then how could we do this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Laser_Ranging_experiment
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>>134447725
No they were not faked and to claim that they were is utterly outrageous.
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>>134447725

No, you fucking retard.
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Hey, anons, but why have KGB or any other officials from USSR never even mentioned that moon landing was fake? You they couldn't find enough evidences of that or what? You think they wouldn't tell it everywhere it was not real?
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>>134450005
i don't get it.
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>>134447725
I think so. They just happened to meet Kennedy's deadline "by the end of the decade" why not 1968? 1967? Plus several other inconsistencies.
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Other than the lone faggot who thinks they used some cornstarch machine (probably OP) there's no way NASA could have faked the arcing pattern of the dust thrown up by the wheels of the lunar rover.

Perhaps they landed on the moon, built a studio, a fake moon set, and filmed their rover scenes to make the dust behave as if it was on the surface of the moon. Or perhaps they built a time machine, used it to travel to an era with better video editing tequniques, then faked the moon landing and came back with the film.
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>>134450621
They were on the same side the entire time and only acting as enemies to push their narrative for the future history of mankind?
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There is a dish in this image. See if you can find it.

http://ser.sese.asu.edu/LO/lo5-126-h2a.html
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>>134449128
they better watch out we will ship niggers up there
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>>134450621
Pretty much this, it would be Russias det dream to expsose US for something like that.
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>>134450030
Because hundreds of people died going to the moon. and tech wasn't good enough to have a high enough % of survival and to risk filming somehting like tht is retarded.
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>>134450415
because Government and Aliens have a deal.

exposing the ayys is forbidden.
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>>134450005
Can someone please explain this?
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>>134451137
And you know this.. how?
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why are all these "proofs" always incredible pixelated and not identifyable without description? hm........
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>>134449974
More like not to give away state secrets
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>>134451235
I just connect the dots my dude
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>>134451137

>exposing the ayys is forbidden.

They exposed themselves by putting us in quarantine though.

Do they think all of us are retarded?
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>>134451269
Hm.....
https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/AS17-147-22470HR.jpg
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>>134450420
he grabbed him with his pinky dumbfuck
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>>134451137
check this out. it's is a printout of the 3D model they used to fake the mission. They used this to make sure the shots were all as they should be.

...they had 3d wireframe models in computers back then.
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>>134451388
the aliens don't really care, the government doesn't want to expose them because that would put themselfes into a bad light so they have to lie.
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>>134450432
What is this supposed to be?
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USA goes to the moon 48 years ago strapped into a giant tincan mounted on surplus nazi V2 rockets controlled by a glorified calculator and no one anywhere in the world has been back since.
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>>134451137

Is that a riverbed on the bottom of the ocean?
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>>134450456
kek
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>>134451561
they already know everything m8.
the good juicy stuff is locked up in black projects since forever.

wanna know the fastest way to get murdered?
make a startup researching Free Energy and see what happens.
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>>134451586
Elaborate that please, why do super advanced ayys would care about hiding from us?
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>>134450005
That is one of the dumbest clips moondeniers regularly post. Are you all really too dumb to see what's right in front of you? He simply latches onto that fold in the pants and pulls it with one finger. The rest of the fingers just follow suit in the movement, since the sinews in our fingers are not fucking independent.
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>>134451639
the V2 was designed by a literal ubermensch

>be nazi
>switch sides
>cant stop winning
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>>134451639

>V2 rockets

You chimps deserve to be gassed.

No sane society can allow people this stupid to roam free.
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BTW, it's not aliens. Humans lived on the moon and when after the great happening they were cut off from supplies and sadly perished from starvation.
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>>134450621
This is the main complaint I have with apollo deniers.
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>>134451639
>mounted on surplus nazi V2 rockets
That's just not true. Saturn V was entirely different from the V2.
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>>134450497
can i get a quick rundown?
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>>134450456
so that fucking pod would then be intercepted by the tin can and the astronauts climbed back aboard? yeah nah
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>>134451639
Never underestimate american ingenuity.
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>>134451451
this is the source image of
>>134448433
this
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>>134450432
no clue what im looking for..
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>>134451784
Honestly I can't really tell how many of these conspiracynuts are trolling and how many are just stupid beyond imagination.
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>>134450497
Muh aliums
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>>134452074

A lot of them have zero understanding of basic physics, how certain materials react to a given influence. Remember the faceberg rocket explosion video? Dumb niggers were thinking fast flying UFOs destroyed it when it was just birds flying through the field of view of a camera that's zoomed in from over a mile away.

To these people, this shit is inexplicable, so they fill in the blanks with retardation.
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>>134448433
yep

Aliens told us to get back in the zoo and never return
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>>134451778
>government has to work together with ayys after losing war against ayys in the 40s/50s/60s
>government doesn't want to look like retarded losers
>government doesn't want people to know that we don't really need oil since we perfected free energy in the late 40s/50s with help of ayy technology
>government needs the petrodollar system to run
>government hides all ayy info
>ayys are okay with this and continue to do what they do while governments hide all info that comes through
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>>134451891
sarcasm

>>134452027
I don't but a video feed of the flag and landing site on the moon from a rover for the 50th anniversary would be sweet.
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>>134448883
>a human is required to put a mirror on the moon
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>>134451891
not really you dumb fucking leaf

the whole family of rockets basically had the same design

there was like few minor changes and a few break off designs but it's still the same basic shit
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>>134452411
Do you have any authentic pictures of an alien, you would like to post here please?
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>>134450768
>But muh cold war Cuba Crisis!
I very much doubt that USSR and USA arms race was ever any more than terrible acting on a global stage similar to the republican and democrat red vs blue shit. Jews at the top of both.

I don't really have an opinion/belief about the moon landings one way or another and leaning towards not believing the alien stuff.
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>>134448610
Gonna need a source on this picture, looks like it's made out of cheese.
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>>134447725
Hollywood and .GOV. have been partners long time. Patriotic films tell young men to go off to war so the can win the girls respect. ( no fight for bankers means NO pussy ) implied message.
No Surprise then that Tee-Vee was used to debunk conspiracy theory about Moon Hoax.
Capricorn - 1 .
Salvage - 1
Space 1999
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>>134452074
It's interesting to take a giant momentous event in human history and try to convince people it didn't occur.

The problem is that the physics of the dust on the moon are impossible to fake, and this is a momentous event you could actually be fairly certain (can't be 100% certain of anything) was the truth.

Basically the conspiracy folks just picked a topic that is actually fairly proveable which they don't really realize
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>>134450621
Because the Russians were faking space shit and hiding aliens too
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>>134452493

>few minor changes

It always boggles the imagination that there are people this retarded who somehow manage not to starve to death.
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>>134452493
>the whole family of rockets basically had the same design
V2 and Saturn V weren't part of the same family. There were plenty of other smaller Saturns before the fifth one, and they were all different from the V2 as well.

They vary immensely in design. The only similarities is that both the V2 and Saturns were aerodynamic tubes propelled by igniting liquid fuel, which describes pretty much all rockets. The V2 didn't even have more than one stage.
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>Elon Musk announces he's abandoning propulsive landing plans for Red Dragon mission to Mars

Yeah this totally means the moon landing was faked and not that Mars has an atmosphere and you could use a parachute/airbag system to land instead of another rocket like what was used in the atmosphere-less landscape of the moon...
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>>134452469
>Not responding with a real argument
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Stanley Kubrick says he faked the moon landing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tK-Ox5Dr98U
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>>134452723
war is ultimately how you redistribute wealth and climb the male dominance hierarchy
>>134452790
do you know anything about rockets?

they have had the same basic design for close to a century

half of the newer rockets are just bigger versions of the old ones with more fuel

try reading a book or fucking back to plebit because you have no points to make
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>>134452556
William Cooper said US / Russia cold war was an act both countries were merging slowly towards a NWO. USA paid for huge Kama River truck factory in USSR , why ?
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>>134453206
>bill cooper

dont rattle the normies too hard

they won't get it
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>>134451231
They are connected to cables on both side of the body.
The background is a greenscreen
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>>134451006
>hundreds
i know of several test pilots who died and the russians seemed to not care about shooting people into space but HUNDREDS? how and why?
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>>134453451
You think we didn't shoot up people into space who died?

You think Yuri was the first man in space?
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>>134447725
People who think this is a hoax should kill themselves. Don't you think the Soviets would have known? They were monitoring the whole thing. You people are not even worth saving.
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>>134452552
what you think your camera works during an encounter of the third kind?

nigga pls.

>>134452603
zond 3
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>>134453627

We mostly think that you're fucking retarded.
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>>134448883
>We put reflectors there to accurately measure the distance.
That doesn't require a manned mission, basically, what they did was send the astronauts to LEO while simultaneously sending a problem to the moon. The signals were then relayed through the probe
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>>134452411
an alien war? and we lost? without knowing we were ever fighting aliens? what?
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>>134453451
The Russians did have an event where a rocket fell over on the launch pad and like 80 scientists etc died as a result.

They attempted to cover up a lot of it too I think (erasing dead employees records etc.) The only things the Russians tried to fake/cover up were their failures not successes.
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>>134453277
Isn't he that guy that gets mentioned in that song Putting on the Ritz?

No wait that's Gary Cooper.
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>>134449820
They did not STAY in the van Allen belt, their exposure was limited as they passed through it in a short amount of time.
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Let's see some russian. chinese, indian or japanese photos of the apollo landers.

Circle them in mspaint and post em. You can't....
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>>134453627
>You think Yuri was the first man in space?

The Soviets sent up animals first, so yes I think Gagarin was the first.
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>>134450005
he literally is simply trying to prevent him from floating away from the camera, he just instinctively reaches for his pants to keep him from moving after he somersaults, he also continues to look at the camera because its just his natural reflexes trying to grab at him and he get a grip of a fold in his pants

you guys are fucking dumb
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>>134449803
"Rung like a bell" is a metaphor for listening to how sound travels through the interior of Moon. Only non-informed people would take it literally.

On Earth we use/used seismographs all over the globe to listen to primary (moves outwards in back-forward motion) and secondary (moves outwards in an up-down motion like a standard sinusoidal wave) waves from earthquakes to figure out that we have a very specific structural change at certain depths, making the waves slow down/speed up/change course.

Making up cool and exciting stories how the Earth is hollow or flat is not based on any tangible physics and hence all flat-earthers/hollow earthers/hollow mooners can just go ahead and hang themselves, less retards to spread baseless ideas.

Stupid opinions should be ridiculed, not held on a pedestal.
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>>134447725
First one was definitely faked
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>>134450005
WTF is wrong with you? This doesn't prove shit.
I hope you're not Norwegian.
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>>134453828
And their flight path was oriented so as to avoid the equatorial portions of the belts to minimize any issues. If you look at the flight angles and stuff it's almost as if they are tying to avoid the Radiation belts.

And I hate to keep bring it up, but I feel like the deniers should give an answer as to how NASA changed the physics of the dust being thrown from the rear of the rover. It doesn't move or fall like dust on planet earth (leave he cornstarch machines out please).
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>>134453786
>US attacks Ayys during WW2 unknowingly starting a war against the ayys in 1942
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Los_Angeles

>during 50s/60s ayys abduct military personal, nuke material and sinks a ship during operation highjump (the ship info is kinda hard to get by since they were bretty good in removing the evidence but it happened.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_Moncla

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1956_B-47_disappearance

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1950_Douglas_C-54D_disappearance
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>>134452552
Watch The Fourth Kind. You might not see an alien but there's real police dash cam footage. Creepy af.
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>>134454009
the hollow earth one is kind of true because
if you dig deep enough you would definitely find some pockets of caves


but im sure it's blown out of proportion
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>flat earth
>moon landing faked
Pick one.
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>>134454615
The moon landing is a distraction from flat earth
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>>134453828
Doesn't need to be lethal or even cause any health problems -- only to have a noticable effect on photographic film.
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>>134454009
maybe hollow is the wrong word that I used, what I'm trying to say and that the evidence says that the moon is very very unusual for our solar system and there is nothing that comes close to it.
it has the perfect distance to earth, its made from material that shouldn't be there and the dates just don't really match.
the moon remains a mystery and there is reason humans didn't attempt to get there.
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>>134454350
Fun fact - Earth is actually full of water pockets underneath the oceanic plates. No idea about the continental plates though. We still have little understanding about what the fuck is beneath our feet >50km. The only reasoin we know how the ocean floor looks like globally is thanks to altimetry measurements from satellites (b-b-but nasa and esa are fake g-guys!).
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>>134447725
>he hasn't seen the leaked footage
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>>134449204
>we
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>>134450005
>man grabs belt loop

NASA isnt real!
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>>134454766
What do the powers that be have to gain by claiming that the Earth is an oblate spheroid vs. a "flat earth"?
You don't do shit like fake a moon landing without (what you believe to be) a very good reason. So why?
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>>134454857
iirc the Moon is fully solid. That's because the Moon has lost most of its heat and has solidified. Also thx to that, it has no magnetosphere anymore.
Constantly moving metal around (consistency of a semi-liquid or like play-doh) creates magnetospheres as far as we know atm.
That's why I believe they said it "rung like a bell", as it seemed to be fairly consistent all the way through. Though it could've been just a metaphor for the whole mission to see what type of density material is located inside the Moon.
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>>134450005
holy fuck that woman's hair alone is proof this is fake
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>>134455169
Don't show this to these conspiracy theorists, they will believe it's REAL!
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>>134455688

Terra incognita. Hidden technology. Why do you think we are using Thomas Edison (Rockefeller, JP Morgan backed) technology and not Tesla's free energy?
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>>134451891
THEY WERE STILL DESIGNED BY THE SAME NAZI

>tfw you can go to Kennedy space center where they proudly lay a nazis handi work in public view for pictures

also the titan-2 in the "rocket garden" is what we use for nukes
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>>134452018
That right there is the one thing you will never see footage of. The lunar orbital interface.. Supposedly the lunar module lifted off as shown and was 'caught' by the orbiter, a feat that could not be practiced ahead of the event. If the interface failed, the lunar module would then fall back to the moon and never be recovered. Nothing else about the moon missions is so outrageously impossible as the post-landing orbital link-up.
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>>134455169
Thats one small lunar module , and 2 large backpacks that would not fit the doorway or be able to be put on / taken off in such a tiny craft.
Proportion = fail. ( Ref, to the actual' footage ' )
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>>134453277
Bill cooper. Or Milton William cooper. You looking for the truth? Beyond "redpilled"? Start here. "behold a pale horse" and "the hour of the time". You will learn things you thought you knew. Seriously anons. Look into it.
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>>134454857
>perfect distance

perfect how? in that it's not rolling on the serface?
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>>134456379
Oh yeah? You have been in zero G so I guess you know best
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>>134452411
>>government has to work together with ayys after losing war against ayys in the 40s/50s/60s
Proof?
>>government doesn't want to look like retarded losers
Would we really look like retarded losers from losing a war with a technologically superior species?
>>government doesn't want people to know that we don't really need oil since we perfected free energy in the late 40s/50s with help of ayy technology
Proof?
>>government needs the petrodollar system to run
Why?
>>government hides all ayy info
Why?
>>ayys are okay with this and continue to do what they do while governments hide all info that comes through
Why would the aliens care about being hidden at all?

Seriously, this kind of shit is pretty fucking pathetic.
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>>134456540
>Supposedly the lunar module lifted off as shown and was 'caught' by the orbiter
That's not true. It wasn't caught, it went into lunar orbit and then rendez-vous with the orbiter.
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>>134455169
>pixar faked Kubric faking the moon landing
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We cant show pictures of the stuff we left on the moon because Andy Griffth did a salvage mission TV show in the 70's and brought it all back for scrap , sold it to Fred Sanford & Son. True story.
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>>134456540

We literally do it all the time when docking with the ISS.
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>>134454204
>Battle of Los Angeles

Bitch, please. That shit has been debunked since the day it happened.
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>>134450833
kekabunga
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>>134456865
Almost anything can be interpreted as perfect if you want to believe in it. The Moon is constantly going further away from us so calling it to be "at the perfect distance" is just stupid af.
From wikipedia: "At present, the Moon gets 3.8 cm further away from Earth every year, and it was much closer to Earth in prehistoric times. But the Moon's outward spiral is dwindling as its distance from Earth decreases and its tidal forces get weaker."

You could also claim that we never see the back-side of the Moon - fugging aliums mane!
Again from wiki since im too lazy: "Tidal locking is the name given to the situation when an object's orbital period matches its rotational period. A great example of this is our own Moon. The moon takes 28 days to go around the Earth and 28 days to rotate once around it's axis. This results in the same face of the Moon always facing the Earth."
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>>134456897
It's literally frozen in place like a gallon of hairspray. If it was normal zero-g it would be floating around
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>>134456540
It's done every few months when a soyuz or dragon docks to the iss. Impossible my ass.
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>>134456909
>government has to work together with ayys after losing war against ayys in the 40s/50s/60s
see >>134454204

>Would we really look like retarded losers from losing a war with a technologically superior species?
yes because of all the mistakes that were made

>government doesn't want people to know that we don't really need oil since we perfected free energy in the late 40s/50s with help of ayy technology
The Demolition of the WTC is proof that a Free Energy device was used to turn the Steel into Dust.

watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vadSaWyiozg

this technology is of course wrapped up in Black Projects and is used for many things like stuff you might heard of being called TR3B.

>government needs the petrodollar system to run
>why?
check https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrodollar_recycling

>government hides all ayy info
because then they would have to admit a lot more things that they rather keep secret

>Why would the aliens care about being hidden at all?
the ayys don't care, the government does, NASA does.
but ayys are seen moving through the skys here not caring about anything.
the whole extent of the collaboration is unknown.
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>>134451691
Supposedly the tracks left behind by a massive underwater vehicle.
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>>134450768
This.
/thread
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>>134457839
I don't think you understand the concept of "scaling up"
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>>134450005
The guy grabs sine fishing line and chicks hair is like wtf.
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>>134457678
Shut it Down , the people know about Dr. Judy Wood.
I sense a quickening ; the old keepers of secrets are losing control of the lies at an ever faster rate.
Fake news is just the start, fake hollywood propaganda, fake moon shot, fake cold war, fake history timeline ( Gobegli Tepi ) .
This is /pol/ 's true calling.
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>>134456379
Hee necklace is floating though
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>>134458521
you forgot the biggest one, the False Flag Alien Invasion.
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>>134458009
Sorry
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>>134450621
Go read the Protocols. Russia and the US aren't really enemies. They act as such because it keeps the citizenry in line while they further their agendas. The threat of nuclear war is bullshit and terrorism is mostly manufactured by the US, Israel, Saudi Arabia and the UK. Just the other day Trump moved to stop arming Syrian Rebels...lol there are no Rebels, just CIA, MI6 and Mosaad clandestine operatives.

On a smaller scale it's just like Republicans and Democrats aren't really enemies, they really aren't even that different. Just different enough for us to think they are. Has this election not taught you anything? That the establishment is afraid of Trump not because he threatens us but because he threatens them. They use wedge issues like abortion and healthcare to divide us and promise change but nothing really changes and what does change is miniscule. Ultimately they answer to the same powers at the top.
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>>134454180
Verdensrommet
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>>134450833
>Checked
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>>134459109
go back to fb, mark
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>>134447725
They may be or may not be, I think they could be easily faked and I would have little means to prove or disprove anything. But if they happened, USA has devolved a lot from being a space-faring nation in 1960 to being a country that sends only unmanned probes into space when it's almost 2020.
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>>134457530
What makes you so sure?

Oh, right. More gut feelings and halfassed guesses.
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>>134450005
Jeez thats some strong hair gel, that womens hair doesnt even flinch
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>>134459233
You think that proves anything at all?
He grabbed something and pulled his legs in.

If you really believe the ISS doesn't exist I'd advice you to get some mental treatment.
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>>134450432
>>134451594
>>134452049
look below his shoulders. He gets pulled and you can see it in his shirt
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>>134453828
https://youtu.be/NlXG0REiVzE?t=205
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Stowaway To The Moon - A 12 yr. old sneaks abord rocket , discovered to late to abort mission, ends up saving the astronauts.
Hollywood keeps pushing hoax years later.
( Psycolocical reenforcement )
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>>134447725
DO NOT FEED TROLL THREDS.
Hid, report and move on.
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>>134449527
And therefore,y Occam's Razor...
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>>134459894
Lots of strange things from nasa
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>>134452388
>to our Reticulian brothers you may come... You can live in the zoo!
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>>134459999
I honestly see nothing of the sort.
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>>134460073
Thanks /pol/ police , will do , top men are on it
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>>134450358
Hair tends to poof out and act stiff due to static charge. Necklaces don't do that.
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>>134460320

Yes, low gravity is strange.
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no aliens no moon landing; only idiots think there are aliens. aliens are a talmudic lie that gets you to reject GOD. moon is not a "place" you can go to; it is a light in the sky.
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>>134447725
> Moon Landings all fake
> we left a fucking mirror on the moon that observatories bounce lasers off.

Which is it, niggers?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Laser_Ranging_experiment
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>>134449803
faggot david icke believer, remember its a reptilian egg now. stupid kike liberals
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Heihei, jorda er flat for faen.
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>>134460320
Looks like a vertical wire from pack behind helmet at 14 sec. Bungee setup.
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>>134460625
never heard about that guy tho
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>>134450005
No fucking way anon. I had to watch it about 10 times and.. Say it ain't so anon. SAY IT AIN'T SO!
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>>134460320
Lmao look at the dust that's kicked up retard. Does dust act like that on a set on earth? No, it doesn't.

>Muh wind
Notice the straight trajectory of the dust. Does wind do that, but not anywhere else in the field of view?

Also, for all the hoaxtards - explain this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDp1tiUsZw8

It's hilarious see teenage faggot shitposters that 90% probably have failed highschool physics (((debunk))) Amercian's and mankind's greatest achievement.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDp1tiUsZw8

Tell me, where on earth will a feather and hammer drop at the same rate, as predicted by Newtonian physics?
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Also, please explain away RADIO TRIANGULATION OF THE CONTINUOUS K AND X BAND RADIO EMISSIONS FROM THE LAUNCHPAD TO THE MOON AND BACK!

Oh wait, teeniebopper summerfags would rather eat up CIA disinfo slide threads instead of taking a day to attempt to grasp the most basic concepts in physics.

Protip: Continuous video footage of humans entering the Saturn V along with amateur radio operators listening 24/7 for the entire duration of the mission would have been impossible to fake at the time, and fairly difficult to fake today.
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>>134460622
>>134460466
>>134460073
THIS.
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Hello idiots. Moon expert here. We did not go to the moon. However since you morons also believe people are on the ISS in this thread, let me explain to you how they fake that shit as well.

All the shots and scenes you see of humans in weightlessness are shot on a Zero G plane during free fall. HOWEVER, this zero g situation can only be sustained for no more than 30 seconds or more generally, before the plane has to pull it's nose up. This is why you will NEVER see ANY example of zero gravity for more than 30 seconds at a time. They simply cannot do it.

Other examples of zero g exterior spacewalk/moonwalks are shot in a large underwater tank. There is no video in existence - NONE, of anyone putting on a suit, getting into an airlock, closing the one side, de-pressurising the other side, and exiting out into space. Zero. No video. Does not exist. You cannot find it because it is not real.

Show me a clip of zero g things happening for more than 30 seconds. Show me a clip of someone exiting from the interior of a ship to space.

I'll wait.
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>>134460633
>people without any means to prove or disprove their Earth model were surely right
>haha, Greek mathematicians didn't real
>s-s-science b-btfo
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>>134457034
'Salvage 1," right? They used a cement truck's barrel for the pressure hull. "Dihydrazine" or some such for the fuel... Memories are ptetty vague...
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>>134462268
lol @ disinfo retard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhGydridbEA
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>>134462268

www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiIKYo58_O0

20 minutes of people floating in space, chimp.
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>>134449803

I like the theory that the moon is an ancient spaceship that was parked in orbit by some extinct species and accidentally caused life on Earth.
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>>134462268
See >>134461760
Please moon expert, explain how to forge video footage of this experiment in a parabolic flight. Also, your whole premise is wrong, as the moon IS NOT ZERO G.

Also for your request, here are 3 hours of continuous footage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQ-V65qoBas

BTFO
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>>134462494
>>134462514
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TGHE ERATH IS FLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTT


FRAVITY IS THE LFAT EARTH FLYING UPWARDS WITH ITS ENGINE BENEATH REEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>134462268
Obvious CIA shill or summerfag.

How old are you?
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>>134456540
It was practiced twice -- once with a LM and CSM in Earth orbit, but flying the same maneuvers, on Apollo 9, and once from low lunar orbit on Apollo 10.

It was not any harder than lunar orbit rendezvous and docking, practiced extensively during Gemini mission.

The Soviets had also practiced with unmanned orbiters and landers in Earth orbit, but they never used their in an actual lunar mission.
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>>134447725

Who cares about the moon, it's all about the planetary grid my nigga
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>>134462598
There's the whole "Star Wars is real" thing.
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Alien here. We just completed our first Earth landing in the US. Cool place, but I've gotta get back to the moon soon. Shame about the death ray.
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>>134456865
"Perfect distance"is usually some strange mashup up of "the right distance and proportions for both solar and lunar eclipses to work", somehow confused with "for some reason we need tides like the ones we have."
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>>134456540
They were probably busy, you know, piloting the things considering the skill and attention needed to pilot any type of craft at the time. You're a fucking retard. Are you looking for work? I need a southerner to pick my cotton.
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>>134462494
>>134462514

So, so obvious fakery. Even in the first video, you see not only the hairspray shit, but she fucks around with water droplets. again, no longer than 30 seconds, and then suddenly those droplets go flying at 4:10-4:15.

Same shit with second video. They're hanging on wires and eventually fuck around with the microphone and flip it around. But again, for no more than 30 seconds do you see this floating effect.

Are you people seriously this stupid? Why do you want so badly to believe this is real? These people are excellent actors. That is what they are.
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>>134456992
HOW FUCKING DEEP DOES THE RABBIT HOLE GO???
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>>134447725
the oon landing
imagine someone comes forward to you in a bar and brags about his 10 inch cock
>my cock is huuuuge 10 inch at least
>well show us
>what are you? gay? I cant show it obviously but its huge tho

if they were on the moon.. why cant they go to the moon again?
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>>134463043
Are you seriously this stupid?

Here you go, more than 30 continuous seconds of microgravity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY2b2APouQA

>Muh space doesn't exist BTFO
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>>134463043
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvTmdIhYnes

Here's another one. Notice the random objects LIKE A FUCKING IPAD FREE FLOATING?

Find the strings in this one, faggot.
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>>134462965
Fuck off, space nigger.
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>>134447725
so you dont think whites were able to reach the moon hmm i believed that this was proof enough that being able to escape our home planet and ascend the the heavens its proof that whites are superior
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>>134451769

>Free Energy

I wouldn't call it free, so much as harnessing the energy of the planet itself.
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>>134463043
Here, have another, since you are so braindead that you're unable to search youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afBm0Dpfj_k
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>>134463394
Based.
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>>134463043

You legitimately belong in a rubber room.
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>>134447725
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuvk0b9F6Ns
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>>134447725

What a stupid fucking article. How dumb do you have to be to actually still be going to zerohedge?
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>>134450621
you had to expect some retarded lunacy about ayys and conspiracy theories when you made that question
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>>134462613
I explained how the ISS is faked since it was a focal point in the thread. Would you like to get into the moon landings? Because I've got all day to show you you're a fucking moron.

Also, the earth is a sphere. It is not flat. I'm not one of those nutjobs. However, no human has ever been to the moon. Let's go. I'd like to start as I usually do with the van allen radiation belts, and how there was literally no shielding on any craft to protect any astronaut from any of its effects.

Seen here is an xray image provided by the Smithsonian. But let that sink in. Xray. penetrating the suit. Interesting. Therefore, there was absolutely nothing to stop anything on the gamma radiation wavelength. The van allen belts are full of ionizing radiation. A bunch of humans inside a metal box floating through ionizing radiation for 3 days and back? They would all be dead almost instantly. That by itself proves no human has ever crossed the belts, and therefore, no one has ever been to the moon. But we can continue.
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It's true, we never went to the moon. But going down this rabbit hole is dangerous because the flat earth shills show up and start astroturfing their bullshit.

https://steemit.com/conspiracy/@psyopsx1000/flat-earth-cia-disinformation-campaign
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>>134448427
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_evidence_for_Apollo_Moon_landings

You never even googled it, did you?
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>Implying the Moon isn't a superstructure created by the ayys designed to keep us grounded on Earth by imposing language barriers between humans and their ideas

Trust me I'm with the Pavarian Illuminati
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>>134450547
what is that ot more? its funny when he punch that ayy fag
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>>134463811

shard of Theia, refashioned.
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>>134463445
Hey uhh, wanna expand on that? Heh..
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>>134463043
>>134462494
What is funny in the scene around 6:20 in the toilet that both the hose and the sheet on the left swing to the right, just how it happens on an airplane due to inertia.
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>>134463902

Pretty sure I told you guys about it when I was like 12.
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>>134450456
who filmed this? who was the cameraman?
is he still on the moon with his camera?
how was this taken?
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These were all included in a bunch of old archival footage of experimental aircraft that NASA uploaded to Youtube a couple days ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-cmeTFxeSY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nr9OyCnpCUM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpULVqOyYG4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3wkhywEAxA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AC5GDFKDYBA
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>>134463968
she touches the hose, also air ventilation is a thing.
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>>134464202
They asked a friendly ayylmao, just like tourists do.
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>>134463686
here i will let this fag explain it to you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNiscigIgBc
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>>134447725
we know exactly how they did it, how much money it'd cost and that it was afforded at the time.

it would be retarded not to do it.
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>>134447725
Don't know.

Also don't care

There wasn't shit worth value on the moon, What a waste of fucking time.
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>>134464202
the camera was on the rover you mongoloid
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>>134464405
there is helium 3 a waste of money was the space shuttle and you always need to push the frontier anon come on you are american i believed this would be close to your heart
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>>134459214
the last sentence of this post would have answered the question better without all of the other bullshit.
>Ultimately they answer to the same powers at the top.
Thats the answer to MOST of our questions.
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I don't think the ISS is fake. I don't believe we went to the moon though.
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>>134464564

The spirit of exploration was rooted out of our population.

Replaced by acceptance with status quo.

Sad!
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>>134464202
There was a camera on the lunar rover. Ground control could control the pan/tilt on the camera. They had to transmit the commands a few seconds ahead of time to compensate for the signal delay between the Earth and Moon.

Only Apollo 15, 16, and 17 carried the lunar rover, hence those exterior liftoff shots are only from those missions. The shots from 15 and 16 were not as well done either, as it took them a couple tries before they got it right on Apollo 17.
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>>134464564
I don't even understand why helium is valuable.

Literally no other use then filling stupid ass kids balloons and sending frogs to another county.

Also it must not be that fucking valuable because I bought a 40lb tank of it for 22 dollars including shipping
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>>134447725

The most glaring point of suspicion for me is the fact that NASA destroyed the original Moon landing video recordings in the early 2000s.

And what is even worse is that they are so cavalier about it! Their excuse is that they recorded over them but it is totally okay goys because they have the digitally remastered computer enhanced versions which are much better than the originals.

How can an organization dedicated to space exploration simply record over the original video of one of the most monumental achievements in human history? Those tapes should have been locked in seven vaults behind seven proxies.

Honestly, I want to believe in the Moon landing. But when they make a 'blunder' like this, to me the the most logical explanation is that the original recordings would simply not hold up to the scrutiny of modern technology and thus they had to destroy them to preserve the lie.
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>>134447725
NO. This is disinformation. You want to hear crazy?

We have a full bass set up on the moon .... you honestly believe we haven't been back since 1969?

Ahahahahahhahahaa
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>>134464659
you went there had big plans for it Project Horizon
weapons on the moon it was always an arms race and one of propaganda
pic is russian laser satellite counter to Star Wars
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Kike here. Glad all your moronic goyim are wasting your time on this bullshit thread instead of catching us in the act of destroying your world and robbing you blind.
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>>134464202
This is one of the single most damning and yet famous clips. NASA's excuse for this being filmed, despite no one being left on the moon to film it or operate a camera, is explained away by the alleged existence of a 'remote control camera' that was operated from Earth.

However no such technology of any sort existed in the late 60's or early 70's. There is no patent that can be found, no schematics, specs, or otherwise that exists to explain how this camera could wirelessly be operated from any such distance, via any band of the spectrum.

People are then led to believe, after this bullshit excuse, is that NASA somehow had magical secret technology that was sued for the expresses purpose of this single shot. yet, the level of tech required to do this outweighs the fact that the onboard 'computer' of the ship has only 64k of ram. Back then, this sounded like alot. But the reality is that the ship was less powerful than a Casio watch.

What you are looking at is the module being pulled up on a wire with a cameraman panning the camera upwards.
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>>134464352
EVEN MOAR BASED PHYSICS-ROMANIAN MAN
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>>134451561
>3D graphics
>in 1969
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>>134464824
helium is pretty rare and useful in industry also helium 3 is useful in future fusion reactors and its only on the moon as far as we know of really powerfull stuff
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>>134465046
The ones that control our space exploration, are the same ones who obsess about ETs, and the same ones you call the 'cabal' or illuminati.'
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You do realize that you can go outside and see the ISS pass by overhead with the naked eye right? Plus countless jewtube videos showing the ISS pass in front of whatever they are filming at the time.

Protip: Take your binoculars that you normally use for creeping underage children, waddle your fat virgin ass outside at night, go to this website https://spotthestation.nasa.gov/sightings/ and stop being an ignorant American.
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>>134464725
honestly seeing the plans of americans even before the put anything in space moon bases nuclear rocket engines entire space stations such dreams and ambitions makes me sad there arent people like that any more
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>>134447725
Tbh none of you were around to remember it.

We 100% made it to the moon. Russia had sent an ICBM into outer space and freaked everyone the fuck out, at the time (as you know), Russia was the competing super power. If they could launch a rocket into space, what could they do do a country on Earth (more importantly, Will they nuke the US we thought.) The US then proceeded to initiate a pissing contest to see who the real super power was. There is no way we faked one of our greatest achievements ever, the video may be fake but we sure as shit made it to the moon, I guarantee it
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Yes

Any private company in the world would have offered space missions in the subsequent decades. Even if it wasn't profitable, someone would have attempted it and gone broke. Some government would have attempetd it and used public funds.

The fact nobody has re-created this event is an obvious indication of forgery.

You must also remember the fucking GOLD STANDARD ((())) stopped being used to back USD one year after the moon landing - two huge events - seemingly unrelated - but entirely related.

A fake moon landing increases MARKET CONFIDENCE in USA and allows the currency to remain bouyant despite NO GOLD STANDARD.

Fucking obvious what happened. You witnessed the biggest marketting event in history. A commercial for American Exceptionalism (C) (TM).
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>>134465384

>such dreams and ambitions makes me sad there arent people like that any more

Dreams and ambitions upset the order they want. People calling the shots are control freaks like you couldn't imagine.
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>>134450005
his pinky pulled it
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>>134464764
So show us the schematics of this magical, decades ahead of its time camera that has never been shown, never been replicated, and never been seen since.

HARD MODE: There are no satellites floating around the moon to piggyback a signal and carry it all the way to Earth. That alone proves all of the audio recordings are fake, unless you'd care to explain how NASA was able to overcome literally 238k miles of distance and maintain a signal, despite atmospheric and other obstacles that occur in the spectrum, and how any device could also generate enough power to do this in the first place.

I lose cell phone reception on the fucking train. Yet you think we talk to people on the moon and can operate cameras with low latency over a distance that large. That's a good one. lrn2/telecommunications
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>>134463819
I dont know, found it on /pol/, i also like the ayy punch eheheheh
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>>134465429
search for space station almaz russian military space station the reason space shuttle is fucked up is that the military wanted different things from NASA if USSR would still be around we would be on Mars and would have bases on moon by now
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>>134454337
>real
its not though
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>>134465355
meant for >>134463686

Also, while I'm at it. I mentioned radio triangulation up here >>134462116
that no conspiratard ever replies to, because they don't know how. This applies to the ISS too. You can point a directional antenna AND LISTEN TO COMMUNICATIONS BETWEEN THE GROUND AND THE ISS WITH A HAM RADIO.

God, if you fucking morons spent as much time and energy learning basic, irrefutable physics and electronic, rather regurgitate clickbait conspiracies, you burgers would have been back to the moon 20 years ago.
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>>134452347
They REALLY don't understand photography.
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>>134465600
>The fact nobody has re-created this event is an obvious indication of forgery.
You're damn right.

Also, gaze upon the mighty LEM! It's totally not made of cardboard, gold reynolds wrap and construction paper or anything!
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>>134454615
>pick one
Why?

If the earth is flat it means the moon landing would have to be fake.

So really it's "pick both or pick none"
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>>134465848
see that big fucking antenna that is how they do it
also civilian tech cant compare with actual NASA tech at the time also here is again this fag will explain how they took that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPOjkSYv3lA
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>>134465429
Thank you based burgerbro.

Fuck, of all the jew hollywood movies, Interstellar really hit the nail on the head about American's forgetting who they were. Explorers, scientists, etc.

100% irrefutable, you guys went to the moon, flying by the seat of your pants.

The greatest Americans, possibly humans, to ever live are those men that set foot literally on the rock we've been staring at since niggers were running with the zebras, the first time.
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>>134447725
>Were the moon landings faked?
No.
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>>134461760
>>134461760
>Tell me, where on earth will a feather and hammer drop at the same rate, as predicted by Newtonian physics?

no they won't. the hammer will have a larger gravitational effect on the earth which will pull the earth up towards itself slightly faster than the feather will. thus, the hammer will reach the ground first. assuming no air resistance, even. oh and the hammer and feather have to dropped at different times. if you drop both the hammer and the feather together then they will hit the earth at the exact same time because the hammer's attractive force also helps the feather reach the ground
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>>134464591
Maybe so but I think people grasp concepts easier if they're given examples. Eventually they'll see the pattern/formula everywhere around them leading to that conclusion.

Most Trump supporters on here recognized a familiar pattern of events being played out and then recognized that it was Trump who was disrupting it.
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>>134466424
Everyone laugh at this fucking faggot for thinking he can "logic" his way around the laws of physics.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Pic related.
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>>134464249
A couple things to note about that prototype, is that it used a jet engine for primary thrust, and hydrogen peroxide thrusters for attitude control. Jet engines don't react as quickly to changes in throttle, which makes them not so great for such an application.

By comparison actual lunar lander used aerozine 50 + dinitrogen tetroxide bipropellant, which is super toxic and corrosive. So corrosive that the engines couldn't be tested before flight. The first time they fired was during the actual mission.
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>>134466424

gravity is a helluva drug
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>>134465848
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>>134459444
>>>134450833
>>Checked
Trip of truth
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>>134466293
>civilian tech cant compare with actual NASA tech

Why do you fall for the "NASA had Star Trek technology and nobody else does" meme? Does this pile of shit made of pvc piping and tape look like super amazing better than anything ever level tech to you? You have to be fucking kidding me.

You also clearly do not understand what it takes to carry a signal that far and in that way. I don't expect you to be an expert, but I can give you the lesson on how it is literally impossible and could not have happened, to have any transmission escape outer earth orbit with the available technology of the time.
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>>134466569
This is true. The engine was made by Grumman and was one of the most nail-biting parts of the mission - waiting to see if it fired.
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>>134466424
Goddamn our education system is fubar

Put on a fake flag and stop embarrassing the rest of us.
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>>134460713
what is antenna?
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>>134447725
It was not faked
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NOTHING CAN SURVIVE THE VAN HALEN BELT. MOON LANDINGS = FAKE NEWS.
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>>134463215
This is the one that bugs me. In 1969, my older (step)brother had a very early desktop personal computer he had to build from parts ordered directly from Intel and IBM, etc. It did next to nothing compared to the thing I'm typing this on. He built it to help my father and his first wife keep inventory in their boat/marine products dealership. It cost something like $4000 to build. This computer I'm using was about 1/10 that cost and is so much better as to be laughable. Why doesn't that frame of reference apply to moon shots? Why isn't it 10 times easier to go to the moon now?
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>>134461760
>a fucking leaf
Hm, not like they couldn't have easily made a lightweight plastic hammer or a metallic feather to even out the drop rate or anything. I guess it's a mystery.
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>>134447725
Only the pictures where faked

If they used the real pics they would have to explain the presence of all dem.aliens who stalked the astronauts
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>>134466743
because they were in bed with the military had german scientists and a shit ton of money to piss one tech that is what i believe they have at least 10 years tech before it hits the market also do you want me to find some fag to explain to you how is that done again?
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>>134466743
The lander was made mostly of aircraft grade titanium.

The "foil" is just mylar insulation.
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>>134466919
>Plastic is less like steel so it's nearly the same as a feather
>American education

Every time you reply, more based burgerbros are telling you to shut your retard mouth. There's a reason for that. I'll give you a hint - you are

W R O N G
R
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>>134450005
Her hair wtf
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Bush's former advisor said we didn't go to the moon.
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>>134466855

>NOTHING CAN SURVIVE THE VAN HALEN BELT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9r-NxuYszg
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Why didn't the 9/11 planes exist in the aviation bureau records?
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>>134465028
One of those boosters do not appear to be a booster.
Is that Energia?
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>>134461760
>>134462116
>>134462613
>>134463243
>>134463357
>>134463500
>>134465355
>>134465934

Anyone ever notice that parrotfags and CIA shills never reply to irrefutable, fact-based, technical responses?
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At the beginning of the lecture "What Planes" Morgan Reynolds, former Bush advisor, discusses the reasons we never went to the moon.

He also discusses Free Energy being made available to mankind.
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>>134447725
>muh shitty clickbait site
>muh snow flake attention pandering

>>134451316
Too simple for these simpletons.

>>134452074
Coolness. In a culture too cool to even say that something bad is bad. This is what we get.

>>134452845
Sweet! :3
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>>134466424
supposing we dropped a kilogram of hammers and a kilogram of feathers?
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>>134466889
Get ready for this one. They say they "LOST" the technology to go back to the moon, and that they somehow "destroyed it" and it's impossible to go back. What a fucking joke.

We never went in the first place.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxJbQpdYINg
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>>134463686

They didn't spend 3 days in the van allen belt you fucking chimp.
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>>134447725

Yeah, they were fake. If they were real then we would've had bases on the moon by now. There's a million reasons to colonize the moon, but not many to not colonize it. You really think we would have just stopped once we were able to get there?
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>>134466855
>NOTHING CAN SURVIVE THE VAN HALEN BELT. MOON LANDINGS = FAKE NEWS.

But that's not even true.
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>>134467304
yes is energia it was a test it failed the satellite but interesting that russia did build a counter to Star Wars
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>>134451137

(((Science))) always leaves out the part about us living inside a Dyson Sphere.
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>>134463686
Also, can you explain the difference between alpha, beta, gamma radiation? What's the difference between REMs, RADs, Sieverts, etc? Ionizing vs non-ionizing radiation? Does everything that goes thru the belt instantly turn to charred carbon?

Conspiratard hardmode - no googling.
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>>134447725
Take this retarded shit back to >>/x/
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>>134467584
polyus is that satellite on its back that "booster" americans never knew that it was a weapon
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>>134467561

umm, Exhibit A:

>>134467175
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>>134467073
Explain where they sourced these amazing futuristic parts from then, friendo? Can't build shit without parts. Need someone to create the tech first to use it. So you're trying to tell us that Germans secretly perfected the microcircuitry required to do these things, didn't keep it for themselves, didn't patent it, didn't document it, didn't announce it, and literally 20 years later when this type of tech actually started existing, the Germans weren't already 2x as advanced?

You're lying to yourself. Stop it.
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>>134450005
His pinkie grabs the fold in the dudes pants, he probably meant to grab more fabric so his hand followed into a full close while trying to stop him from moving away more.
I swear to God we're headed for the dark ages again between flat-earthers, fake mooners, anti-vaxxers, and Muslims.
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>>134465075
>>134465848


You people, and I use the term extremely loosely, legitimately deserve to die.

You have no place in this society.
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zerohedge.com lol
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>>134466889

Do you know how we know that you are lying?
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>>134467135
No, I'm right. It's obvious Phil Plait and his cronies are paid to sit in here all day and call people names when they bring up truths about moon shit. For all the talk you guys go on about regarding things like CTR and ShareBlue, no one ever seens to mention how entrenched NASA is with keeping the fantasy going about the moon.
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>>134462965
You have to go back
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>>134467920
>anti-vaxxers r DUM

You mean the wealthy? Every study you can find shows anti-vaxxers are the wealthy. Are the wealthy children dying in droves? No.
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>>134453277
Og right there
We went to the moon but we're told to leave
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>>134450497
>>134451993
We can bounce lasers off the moon and back to Earth as if it were a mirror.

Apollogists say this is because of mirrors - called retroreflectors - that astronauts placed by hand on the moon.

Moon hoaxers have shown that it is possible to bounce lasers off the moon without the use of retroreflectors, which that wiki article says in the 3rd sentence. They also remind everyone that reflectors can be put on the moon by robots, like Russia did with their Lunokhod 2 moon rover.

Moon reflectors aren't a trump card for either side.
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>>134467919
the nazi scientists did that the ones you had also what are you a nigger cant you believe US whites are able to do that also fag tells you who made the fucking thing why do you undermine the achivements of America? what is your goal?
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>>134466919
>< ?>;s,mfdgjo;kashogiasgoiahsdgojahnbdvojbnadv

God fucking what the fuck
Are you controlled opposition? Feathers fall slower on Earth because of WIND RESISTANCE WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU

A PLASTIC HAMMER FALLS THE SAME SPEED AS A METAL HAMMER DOES FUCKING DIE FAGGOT
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>>134467428

Holy shit that is hilarious that they think anyone would believe that bullshit. That a literal 8 year olds excuse.
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>>134467728
Yes sir I can. But you are begging the question. And I am aware of the specific types of radiation; through the van allen belts, the background radiation, and the direct radiation that the astronauts were allegedly exposed to/traveled through.

And yes, I will even offer and olive branch and tell you that certain alpha and beta particles would not be exponentially detrimental or harmful, even under constant exposure. But that is usually the crutch that people will fall back on - "but THIS type of radiation isn't that bad", as if all of the others are the same or do nothing. The reality is that, again, there was literally no shielding to compensate for exposure to ANY of those areas of the spectrum. If that were true, the ship would require no less than 3 feet of lead encasing any person at all times. I've done the math in the past, I don't have it on hand.

But either way, if you put humans inside a metal box and have it float through ionizing radiation, you would have some crispy astronauts. They wouldn't burst into flames, they wouldn't be a pile of dust. They would die from radiation poisoning before anything else.
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>>134447725
Propulsive landings on Mars are ancient technology, the NASA Viking probes landed on Mars with thrusters only over 50 years ago, Musk must be retarded not to be able to do it now.
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>>134467934
Lmao ur mad you got btfo
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>>134467428
It's not impossible, but it's highly impractical. It would cost the same or less to build a new vehicle from the ground up than to build an old design.

Design documentation was all stored on paper or magnetic tape back then, which degrades with time. Most of the experts that worked on those projects are dead now. All of the various tooling/assembly/etc. equipment was dismantled to make way for the shuttle program.


Right now for example, they couldn't launch another shuttle even if they had a fully operational one ready to go, because the VAB and launchpads have been dismantled and rebuilt to support SLS. Even the shuttles sitting in museums have dummy engines because they yanked the real engines out to use on SLS, after which they'll be lying at the bottom of the ocean.

Another example is in the electronics. Imagine you wanted to build a brand new Apple II computer. Even if you had all the information about how it was made, it would be expensive as fuck because none of those components are being produced anymore, none of the machines to produce them are even functioning anymore. You could build a new modern PC for much less money, AND it would have better performance.
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>>134468948
again this bald fag disagrees with you and your bullshit lead encasing why dont you adress any of his points?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNiscigIgBc
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>>134467934
Prove me wrong, shithead. You can't and you're mad. Boo hoo.

>>134468551
>nazi scientist fantasy stories
Get back on your meds.
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>>134465113
a processor only does simple math

if you know how to do math with matrices you can get the accurate 2d projection(you can even define the lense) of any 3d point, so with some patience and some calculations you can draw that pic by hand
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>>134469152
related
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>>134467175
>into the 27th minute of the guitar solo, the dragon commits suicide
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>>134469251
all fucking nazi scientists you fucking dumb nigger you know a nice fact you know that african americans are more likely to believe conspiracy theories? must be the low IQ
Werner Dahm
Wernher von Braun
Hermann H. Kurzweg
Konrad Dannenberg
Kurt Heinrich Debus
Walter Robert Dornberger
Eberhard Friedrich Michael Rees
Ernst Stuhlinger
Hubertus Strughold
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>>134468992

Shut the fuck lmao you're an idiot.
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>>134466165
You're absolutely right.
The LEM had to be ridiculously light, as even the Saturn V was not enough to allow it to be heavier.
It's actually paper thin for a good part.
Nowadays, we'd use carbon composite, but back then...
Doesn't matter, though, as the ship didn't have to re-enter any kind of atmosphere.
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>>134469705
Everything he said is completely correct.
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>>134469685
BASED ROMANIAN SPEWING FACTS!

MY N/GGA
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>>134453041
Ive heard a lot of talkabout thisbut never heard him confim it.....
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