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>Whitest country in Europe
>Pretty crappy

Explain the contradiction /pol/
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>slav
>white
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>slavs
>white
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>>134436171
Remittances/gibs
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>>134436171
>slav
>white
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>most /pol/ country
>shithole /pol/ hates
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>>134436171
Not a contradiction. Non-whites don't want to go there because it's poor
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>>134436171
I would rather live in Poland than in America or Germany
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Well at the end of the day Poland will only go up from now on and pick up where Western countries lose, unless they get memed into a Slavic Union by Russia for the third time which might as well happen from what I read.
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>>134436171
>niggers were slaves 150 years ago and weren't allowed to drink from white water fountains until 50 years ago, you can't expect them to act like human beings and not massacre each other en masse
>it's been 70 years since Poland was completely obliterated and occupied by two empires, why aren't they a superpower yet?
Fuck off r*ddit
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>>134436955
And it's been 30 years since we're "free" and ""democratic"" and only now we're getting rid of post-communistic remains. Democracy sucks, We need a polish Pinochet
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>>134436955
>it's been 70 years since Poland was completely obliterated and occupied by two empires, why aren't they a superpower yet?
same goes for Germany but four instead of two empires and Germany currently has the strongest economy in the continent
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>>134437124
>what is Marshall Plan
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>>134436171
Poland is not crappy, it was for a long time because of the misfortunes of first the Partitions of the seventeen-hundreds of the Elegent Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, which was backstabbed by the Russians, Prussians, and Austrians. Had to suffer that until World war one. Gained freedom, Was then murdered in world war 2. After which was the USSR's slave (unjustly, poland was backstabbed by its supposed allies), Millions dead.. and yet freed itself from communism and fought against every invader. Not only that, but they won. Since they are still around. And their once ruined country is now a regional power, has a growing economy, and a strong spirit. Not like its neighbors (Other than Lithuania, Bohemia, Slovenia, and Hungary)
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>>134437124
>50 years of communism
vs
>50 years of capitalism
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Hitler and Stalin did a number on them. Give them time.
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>>134437124
Germany was propped up bigly by the west. Outside of Berlin, eastern Germany isn't much different than Poland.
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>>134436171
>After WWII commies run the country
>Czy sie stoi czy sie lezy to wyplata sie nalezy
>Price of bacon is less than pollutry
>Country can't keep up having this, government wants to rise prices of bacon
>Labour workers riot over prices of Bacon, some of them get shot dead
>Government backs up, borrows money from west to keep low prices of Bacon to keep peace on streets
>Debt is growing
>Debt is growing more
>Production of Bacon is collapsing due to price of fodder going up
>Government borrows more money to import fodder, to keep up bacon production and low price of bacon
>Obviously this isn't working, government relaxes private sector
>Black market starts to grow extrapotentially hitting economy even more
>Everything trarts to spiral out of control
>Jaruzelski introduces Martial Law to avoid civil unrest (and also shut down growing opposition)
>Everything is fucked up
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>>134436171
>relatively poor country
>little to no foreigners want to come live there since it is harder to make a living
>therefore country stays homogeneous
this applies to most Eastern Europe countries
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>>134437124
Germany didn't lose 1/3 of it's civilians. Half of germany wasn't comunistic so it could have grow for 44 years while whole Poland was getting more poor. +German corporations like Bayer actually made profit out of war and became one of the biggest on the market in first years after war, while every Polish economic activity had been nationalised by force...

You must be pretty blind if you think it is the same...
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>>134436171
It always about nation brightest and smartest people.

179x - 1914 (Under rule of Russia and Prussia (germany) - elites cleansed after each revolt, and actually only Austrian part is quite free place to be)
1st world war (independence fight, fighting of commies in 1921, a lot of people die including elites of the country, but finally free)
1921 - 1939 - a short period of time, when wounded nation tries to create country from 3 occupied parts and also create new nation elites.
2 world war (german murder plan to kill all polish elites, russians murder polish soldiers in katyƄ, many valuable people die)
50 years of communism (russians build new polish elites out of commies - people without culture but dependable to govern country)
198x - finally free, nation tries to build new elites, but there are not enough educated people, so some commies change sides.

Yet still we managed to rebuild our country. Just look at our economy growth.

So it's always about elites of your country. And by elites i mean politicians, scientists, artists, priests. Ours were periodically cleansed, so the country feels crappy. Fortunately the spirit of the nation survived.
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>>134436171
crime index lower than
Sweden (ok they are at ukraine war zone level)
France
UK
Germany

https://www.numbeo.com/crime/rankings_by_country.jsp?title=2017-mid&region=142


As for economy bouncing back, 50 years of commies shiting up your contry does take to get up. West Germany had marshal plan, we had ruskies dismantling factories and taking them back home..

And it realy depends, shit tier jobs aka minimum wage (1800~~) are hard to life off.

But get at 2500-3500 level and you live comfy in mid sized town. You want to do 4k+ in larger town too.

>>134437806
That too, they were destroyed by commies. While east pumped lots of cash there diffrences are still visible.
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>>134437124
I think you don't know what an obliteration means - just search for Warsaw photos just after war.

Also Marshall plan, we weren't included because muh Stalin.
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>>134437328
Germany got less money than other countries and the Allies committed the biggest theft of patencies and technology when they were here.
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>>134436955
>>134437083
>>134437403
>>134437484
>>134437590
>>134437875

The US state of Michigan has 1/3rd the population of Poland and has more black people than Poland but still has a much higher GDP

Yes, even with the city of Detroit, state of Michigan is more successful than Poland.

Poland is white and crappy
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>>134436171
Berlin wall fell in the 90s, learn some history, its free on the internet.
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>>134438485
I will tell you just few extra deals that our country got from Soviets after war.

- They changed eastern border just after the war when they discovered coal on polish side.

- Poland was obligated to provide Soviet Union with coal and steel on prices below mining/production cost - while these resources were still needed for country reconstruction.
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>>134438521
GDP vs buying power vs cost of life

Can you get broadband internet (80mbit) with cable TV landline and cellphone with unlimited calls for 25$ ? Here you can.
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>>134436171
They are genetically cucked enough already, in other words their degeneracy does not have to be increased before being able being handled by kikes. (kikes handled poles perfectly already before WW2.)
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>>134438485
You committed the biggest theft of workforce, art and jewelery some of which you still have since war...
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>>134438521
What do americabro?
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>>134438521
>Comparing US to anything else
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>>134437328
>a 1,5 billion dollar aid changed everything
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>>134436955
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>>134437083
>polish Pinochet
meme this to reality
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>>134436171
Socialism.

Although Poland is pretty based social wise, half the people are gibsmedat welfare leeches, who live off of EU shekels.

If you dare tell these (((socialists))) that they need independence and a strong capitalist economy (NOT FREE TRADE, JUST CAPITALISM WITH LIMITED GOVERNMENT EXPENDITURE), they call you a jew because evidently, being prosperous is a kike conspiracy.
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>>134436171
they were under (((Communism))); I met many Polish people in London, most of them are hard working and honest folks. Most of them are here to work and then go back home.

>>134436729
This; even if it would be hard for an Italian to learn Polish...
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>>134436171
Fuck you eastern eu is new Byzantium
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>>134438521
>Michigan - no war on it's lands since forever, been part of a capitalistic country since the beginning of the state.
>Poland - krauts, ruskie, nazis, commies, two world wars fought on its territories.

FUCKING POOR POOLAND WHY ARE YOU SO SHIT
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>>134438250
>Germany didn't lose 1/3 of it's civilians.

you mean kikes
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>>134439732
>What is Japan
No excuse. Kick out all the communists AND socialists and maybe y'all have a chance
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>>134439062
It did reboot what was already there, just slightly destroyed. This + Erhhard's reforms + US boom + Asian boom.

But no, 80 IQ monkey will say REEEEEEE SLAVS NOT WHITE BECAUSE THEY AREN'T RICH LIKE US NEVERMIND HOW THE WORLD ACTUALLY WORKS WHITES DINDU NUFFIN REEEEEEE GENOCIIIIIDE WE WUZ KANGZ
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>>134439513
Trump supports Intermarium, Poland stronk
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>>134436171
At least they're not overrun with niggers demanding handouts & raping their women, Mexicans making them a minority in their own country, & Jews sending their sons to die in a desert halfway around the world for profit.

I'd much rather live in Poland than in this shitty country called the JewSA.
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>>134439903
>and maybe y'all have a chance

lol you will be like Brazil in next 30 years, skin color wise
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Poland: it's everyone else's fault. So oppressed. Ebil Russkies. Muh, Kraut priviledge.
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>>134439311
Not kike conspiracy, but in socialism you had to weasel your way up and take bribes to be better off than others. People who call others thieves are most likely corrupt crooks themselves, they're just butthurt that they can't be so corrupt anymore.
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>>134440284
>bomb a country and then enslave for 50 years, also kill their best people
>WTF why are you blaming us???
In general I don't like this niggerish thinking, but you can't just wave away all that abuse.
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>>134440065
>deflection
Doesn't change your situation, Pollack. I only say these things out of love.
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>>134436171
>>slavs
>>white
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>>134440284
Because it is. It's all about the development of cities, right values of freedom which are the results of growing wealth and industrialization, not race, like potards think. It's hard to develop cities, when they're constantly being destroyed and have to be rebuilt.

>b-because they have mongol admixture slavs not white reeeeeeee

Same reason why Russia is shit, not enough city development, also something called Dutch disease in your case, ie your resource wealth causes the development of all other areas to stifle:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_disease

But also of course it's lack of political will and motivation to invest in anything else other than military and trinkets.
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>>134440284
Whose fault is that Russia is even more shity than Poland with lower GDP per capita?
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>>134436171

Poland has only been able to live like a normal country for maybe 15 years. why does everyone ignore this?
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>>134436171
(((soviet occupation))) Poland will be one of the best countries in europe in a few decades
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What's crappy about poland
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I'm not from Poland, but my country is quite similar. Just a bit richer, by a very small bit. I have lived both in France and in UK, sum of it for ten years. In the west I got paid, for the same job as here, about five to six times more. My living standards was completely different.

Yet, I still returned home and would never go back to the west.
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>>134440974
>>134441045
Soviet occupation -> corrupt "democracy" -> EU colonisation
When we exit EU will be the time to properly judge our capabilities.
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>>134441045
And U.K. will still be terrible, probably worse.
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>>134441152
Our salaries: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_countries_by_average_wage
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>>134440752
Being a Slavaboo/Balticaboo, I would love to get a woman from there...do they like Mediterranean guys?

>>134441272
I'd love to visit Czechia one day...Sedlec would be the first place I'd go, ofc. That ossuary is hardcore stuff, for a trad-Cat like me.
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>>134441152
Not as rich as germany. The wage gap is real. But again cost of life is also lower.

It sucks for people doing lowest jobs (1600-1800 PLN) but moment you get over 2500 its quite K while 4k is decent living.
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>>134438780
I'll take tech over art for advancing an economy. Nice emotional projection, though.
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>>134442733
>a fucking retard with pirate flag
what a surprise
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>>134442960
Did you miss the point? Post-war tourism generated from fucking art and 'muh jewellery" are drops in the bucket compared to navigation tech acquired by the allies from the Reich. Grow up.
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>>134439201
the difference is that Poland was an European empire before that all of that, Afrika was only kangs
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>>134443185
>a fucking retard with donkey flag
what a surprise
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>>134436171
it's not a contradiction

god forbid you wake up one day and find out that being white alone means next to nothing

this nonsense is repeated so much here people start to believe it
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>>134443344
Still missing the point. What more do you expect of a Pole with a victim complex. Look here, you are eternally cucked: >>134438250
>muh Jews are Poles now
Sad, really.
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>>134443479
>a fucking retard with no step on snek flag
what a surprise
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>>134436171
its crappie because wars and comminism not for being white
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>>134443615
>a fucking retard with tree fucking flag
what supp
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>134443775
o shit, didun flagchange ; <
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>>134443615
Keep on sipping that kool-aid, though.
Here's a recap:
>muh art is worth an equivalent of navigation and aeronautical tech utilized by the allies
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>>134443635
>Blacks had slavery and no education and it's their fault for being crappy
>Poland had war and communism so it's not their fault

German logic
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>>134436171
>post-communism

/Thread
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>>134443946
>what is africa
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>>134443946

Yeah, I remember blacks having slavery 30 years ago


retard
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>>134443946
It's just such a retarded collectivist mindset. New Poles born are not victims of Communism, stop leeching off of guilt because it isn't genetic. It's pathetic really, just like Jim Crow has already been abolished, but Poles still want to latch onto muh gulags killing muh grandpappies.
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poles are pretty much the niggers of europe:

>always trying to leave pooland for gibs in other european countries
>raiding the borderland of germany, be thefts
>racemixing with niggers
>trying to play the victim card "muh germany", "muh russia", "gib free gibs"
>trying to act all tough on the EU, while still trying to get the most gibs out of the EU
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>>134443853
Here's a recap:
>operation paperclip is a spook
>Germany was occupied by the countries that "stole" their technology, aka invested in it and did nothing to prevent them from utilizing it
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>>134436171

Still would choose Poland over Detroit or Chicago.
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>>134444146

Poland is fixing itself and isn't a third world shithole. It's just on the poorer end of civlised.

I love how Americans think that every other country never had a war on its soil just because America didn't have one for 200 years.
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>>134444175

Oh look, a Kraut hates Poland for not surrendering to him, what an original concept
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>>134438696
a home phone, cable, and internet service is normally around $100 over here.
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>>134444192
>Germany was occupied by the countries that "stole" their technology, aka invested in it and did nothing to prevent them from utilizing it
Woah... I didn't know all those German scientists were never taken to the US. Sure is a mutual investment.
>did nothing to prevent them from utilizing it
Yeah, I guess that's why Germany is still leagues ahead in terms of scientific advancement.
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>>134443946
>niggers were freed 150 years ago and are worse off now than they were then
>Poland was freed 30 years ago and is gradually improving
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>>134444175
t. Turkroach Mehmet
You turned Warsaw into dust and their allies left them to get raped by Soviet marxists.
If the soviets didn't execute every intelligent academic/leader/military leader in poland then you might have had a leg to stand on.
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>>134444364
>It's just on the poorer end of civlised.
With that level of grammar, Malta would be in the same category.
>I love how Americans think that every other country never had a war on its soil just because America didn't have one for 200 years.
Keep cryin' for those sissy Pole bois getting rammed by Soviets and Germans, then crying about it when the newer generations are in no way influenced by them.
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>>134440901

ofc it's Polish fault, muh 1610 gusar oppresion
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>when the newer generations are in no way influenced by them.
it must be hard in life, being a retard naziboo
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>>134436171
shitty geopolitical placement.
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>>134444845
>it must be hard in life, being a retard naziboo
>everybody that points out guilt isn't genetic is a muh nazi
Such enlightened political discourse, call everybody a nazi. You are chasing relics of the past that have not affected you to desperately describe why you are failing and uncivilized, which is hilarious.
>muh soviet commissars killed muh daddy
>muh nazis gassed muh mommy
>das why, da rooskie be keepin us down n shiet
Grow up.
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>>134444676

>With that level of grammar, Malta would be in the same category.

"Hur durr, I don't get what u said so u stupid"

You must be an American.

>Keep cryin' for those sissy Pole bois getting rammed by Soviets and Germans, then crying about it when the newer generations are in no way influenced by them.

Yeah, and economies just magically explode into fairy dust the moment you come out of communism, right?

If it wasn't for Poles the entire games industry would be engulfed by SJWs, for one
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>>134444546
>operation paperclip was annuda shoah
>technology can't be shared across borders
>operation paperclip literally had 0 effect, Germany is a scientific leader
You're legitimately retarded. When does your hour of internet allowance your parents give you end for the day?
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>>134436171
Slavs aren't white
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>>134444718
Are ruskis cursed?
has Russia ever had a good and peaceful period?
I'm not sarcastic.
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>>134444718
you russkies will always be poor, your state of mind is to be poor and fucked in rectum by your "tsar' and his men.
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>>134445080
Okay, I'm on your side but don't act like the witcher is the golden egg of gaming.

It's boring as hell
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>>134444584
>every intelligent academic/leader/military leader in poland
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>>134444988
in our place we have two choices, a superpower or a battlefield, we had a real shot at being a superpower, and we would be one if we could subjugate ruskies when we had a chance >>134444718 alas we failed.
battlefield it is
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>>134436171
>most powerful country on earth
>70% chance to get murdered by a nigger when walking down the street

explain this
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>>134445080
Why does Malta not use this superior flag?
Super aesthetic.
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>>134445080
>"Hur durr, I don't get what u said so u stupid"
No, I understand you meant 'civilized'. You just can't string a sentence together. It's telling, you seem to lack a formal education.
>Yeah, and economies just magically explode into fairy dust the moment you come out of communism, right?
Not what I claimed. I'm saying that appealing to some moral guilt as if it were genetic, thereby limiting achievement because some mystic boogeyman destroys any attempt, is fundamentally anti-individualist and absolves all agency from the individual, which is a pathetic excuse.
>>134445126
>technology can't be shared across borders
>mutual benefit by taking brightest minds from a nation
Even still, Germany is still on-top. Maybe if they spent as much time whining as Poles, they would be miserable failures, too.
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Forgot pic
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>>134445134
looking at today's degeneracy, I'm glad and feel superior to our western neighbours.
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communism
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>>134445141
No, but they continue to survive always.
Suffering is the way of the slav.
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>>134436171

slavs = untermensch

whiteness is more than skin color, you think albino niggers are white ?
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>>134445141

why should you care? just clean that swedish toilet good.
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>>134445255
Butthurt ruski, I knew it looked bad but it's beside the point.
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>>134445334
>technology can't be shared across borders
>mutual benefit by taking brightest minds from a nation
Like I said, you're actually retarded. Countries across the world voluntarily send their brightest minds to the US to do research that benefits all of humanity.
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>>134444509
This, we earn less but cost of living are also lower.

But its problem when buying "luxury" goods since our buying power is lower.

It dissapears when you make 3-4k but under that yeah people are poor.
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>>134445167

wow I'm so triggered
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>>134445532

ofc it's everyone else butthurt but not we wuz gusars and shit
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>>134445225

Not just CDPR, there's Warhorse studios now too
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>>134445587
>Like I said, you're actually retarded. Countries across the world voluntarily send their brightest minds to the US to do research that benefits all of humanity.
>voluntarily
Oh, I am laffin
Sure German scientists were just dying to be utilized "voluntarily". So much so that a special task force had to be assigned to "recruit" them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip#Capture_and_detention
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>>134445790
games?
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>>134445438

wow so suffering
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>>134445587
>John Gimbel concludes that the United States put some of Germany's best minds on ice for three years, therefore depriving the German recovery of their expertise.
EVEN THOUGH, Germany still succeeded. Yet Poles still keep whining about 'muh commie boogeyman, commissars are coming for me!!!!"
LOL, pretty hilarious.
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>>134445793
Like I said, you're legitimately retarded. I never said German scientists went voluntarily. I said them conducting their research on another plot of arbitrary dirt didn't preclude such research from benefiting Germany.
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>>134445334

> civilized

Oh noes, British spelling! I must be retarded!

See: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/civilised


Anyways.

No, I'm not appealing to any moral guilt, I'm simply stating that they were under communism, you know, that system that never worked and always lead to mass murders and poverty?

Do you expect a country to magic itself out of poverty into being rich in 30 years? African countries have been free for much longer and are much, much poorer than Poland (which is self-sufficient, just not full of gibs).

This comes off like the son of a billionaire asking the poor man's kid why he didn't make himself a billionaire yet, and then calling him lazy when he explains that his father could barely feed him.

AKA: Come off like an ass.
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>>134445886
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>>134445941

> Germany

> Got shittons of free shit, was under capitalism for 80 years

> Poland

> under commie rule

Why not see how East Germany was before the reunification?
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>>134445945
Then your little modern false dichotomy (Countries across the world voluntarily send their brightest minds) is irrelevant. Glad we agree.
>didn't preclude such research from benefiting Germany.
>forcefully 'repatriate' brightest minds in order to compete with the Soviets
>it's mutual, bro
Really getting a great benefit from the relationship when all the innovation occurred within the US.
>Then U.S. Army Major Robert B. Staver, Chief of the Jet Propulsion Section of the Research and Intelligence Branch of the U.S. Army Ordnance Corps, used the Osenberg List to compile his list of German scientists to be captured and interrogated; Wernher von Braun, Germany's premier rocket scientist, headed Major Staver's list
Some more historical accounts. I know this is difficult for you to understand, but it kind of debunks your worldview entirely.
Nobody would argue that there was an immediate mutualistic relationship if Canada's brightest minds were "voluntarily" captured by the US.
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>>134445049
look dude, because you are an honest to god retard, let me take pity a bit and make you a metaphore that maybe will allow you to understand your situation now.
when a kid that doesnt know basic algebra tells a phd guy that he does his derivatives are wrong what would phd respond with?
yes, you are that dumb and ignorant, no understanding at all hence no discussion can be made
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>>134437124
you are still (as the most of EU) under US boot as Amerifats colony Hans, every US post II World War colony (Germany, Japan, Turkey, North Korea) was granted good economy but will continually be kept at local power level, never allowed to threaten current hegemon (USA).
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Your country would be "crappy" too if it were under communist rule for over 40 years. Krakow and Warsaw and much better than London and Paris.
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>>134445502
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>>134446108
Well, you said: It's just on the poorer end of civlised.
Civilized what? Hence, the grammatical shortcomings.
>I'm simply stating that they were under communism, you know, that system that never worked and always lead to mass murders and poverty?
How are modern Poles affected by this in any way?
>Do you expect a country to magic itself out of poverty into being rich in 30 years?
The oppressive system has been removed, there is no reason to not free up the markets right away and relish in free trade internationally.
>African countries have been free for much longer and are much, much poorer than Poland (which is self-sufficient, just not full of gibs).
That's because niggers are incompetent.
>This comes off like the son of a billionaire asking the poor man's kid why he didn't make himself a billionaire yet, and then calling him lazy when he explains that his father could barely feed him.
Work harder and market yourself.
>>134446221
>muh ebil commie boogeyman still attacking Poles. You see, that's why we be failures n sheit
>>134446314
>when a kid that doesnt know basic algebra tells a phd guy that he does his derivatives are wrong what would phd respond with?
>appealing to authority
A blind squirrel will still find a nut and if the kid used Wolfram Alpha, he would be, most likely, correct.
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>>134437806
>west
*western Europe
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>have free market for decades
>muh boogeyman commies still keepin us down
Meanwhile, ethnic Russians in the same position observed an economic spike in the same period and are much better-off than Poles with victim complexes.
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>>134439262
We tried, in last elections they did not make it to parliament. He was the guy we needed to keep PiS from doing stupid shit.
At least he is a rust consuming EU from inside.
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>>134445446
Define it then.
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>>134446480
t. American who has clearly never left his country
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>>134446318
Vlad, mah boi
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>>134446588
"the greatest story never told" is not wolfram alpha and you somehow are unable to understand cause and effect in history
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>>134436355
>>134436417
>>134436502
too stupid to realize "slav" is several races, also too stupid to realize E.Europeans are white. This is why /pol/ is retarded. Literally none of you know shit about genetics besides shitty unsourced memes yet you think youre an expert enough to decide whos white.
Im surprised you retards arent globalists since you dont seem to think anyone besides your home country is white.
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>>134441473
T 54% white
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>>134437484
>50 years of capitalism

You mean 50 years of getting HANDOUTS from rich western European countries.
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>>134447056
LOL, nice projection
>everybody I dislike is a nazi
Fuck off, retarded stormfag
Your example was concerned with a phd talking to a kid about derivates. My point still stands: a blind squirrel will still find a nut.
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>>134447069
>blonde hair
>blue eyes
>white skin
>not white
most of /pol/
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>>134446303
>when you're so desperate to win an internet argument that you move the goalposts from the end zone to mid field
I don't even know what you're trying to argue now. It seems like your point is
>when people voluntarily conduct research abroad it can be beneficial to everyone
>when people are captured to conduct research abroad, it can't be beneficial to the country being occupied, rebuilt, and defended by the country that captured their scientists because the NAP was violated
Post your hand. You're nigger tier retarded, just need confirmation that you're actually a nigger.
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>>134447178
You're too fucking dumb to use the muh projection meme correctly. Underage nigger detected. Just admit you're fucking 15 so the mods can ban you.
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>>134446588
I have no idea about
>soviet agents posing as "oposition"\
>round table (89) beeing changing to democoracy while in reality it was just puppets of WSI and SB (commie secret police)
>89-95 selling out big companies for pennies , the whole deal with reprivatization is beeing solved now

for fucks sake in anno domini 2017 we are finaly getting cleansing in jurisdical system, I mean judges that handled death sentences during commie rule stayed in thier post

nothing was done since post soviet "democratic" goverments were run by WSI mafia
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>>134436171

>Whitest country in Europe

94% Polish, some places are 98% native then 2% foreign white. It's not even at the top.
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>>134447178
>love for germany
>irrationaly hating poland
hm i wonder which propaganda do you subscribe to.
i know, you must be a commie!
> a blind squirrel will still find a nut.
and what is a chance of that hm?
0.0001%? besides i know for a fact that you are wrong on the whole line so sadly fate didnt smile upon you now
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>>134447069

>too stupid to realize "slav" is several races
>slav is a race
>there are multiple "races" within the "slav" term

You CLEARLY don't understand what a race is. You're American aren't you?
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>>134443464
It means your neighbors will be polite considerate and empathetic. It doesn't mean you will be rich. Although that's likely as well.
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>>134436171
Pollaks are niggers of white people, always and forever:(
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>>134436171

Dem commies.
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>>134447516
>when you're so desperate to win an internet argument that you move the goalposts from the end zone to mid field
Coming from the guy who makes irrelevant remarks hinting to a notion of voluntarism.
>when people voluntarily conduct research abroad it can be beneficial to everyone
Sure. Generally, you don't need a task force to capture the people. Usually, that's an act of war.
>when people are captured to conduct research abroad, it can't be beneficial to the country being occupied, rebuilt, and defended by the country that captured their scientists because the NAP was violated
It IS beneficial to the country that captured the minds. You're assuming there were some open-source patents or freedom of information, when the whole point was to out-compete the Soviets. The conquered did not exactly benefit from lacking access to their intellectuals if they had no access to them in the down-time. Again, more historical evidence debunks you: Overall, through its operations to 1990, Operation Paperclip imported 1,600 men, as part of the intellectual reparations owed to the United States and the UK, valued at $10 billion in patents and industrial processes.
>>134447637
Keep on complaining, I love debunking idiots like you lacking in a coherent worldview.
>>134447878
>round table (89) beeing changing to democoracy while in reality it was just puppets of WSI and SB (commie secret police)
[citation needed]
>I mean judges that handled death sentences during commie rule stayed in thier post
[citation needed]
Are you that incompetent that even after Communism was removed, you kept corrupt judges?
>>134448005
>love for Germany
[citation needed]
Keep on making a strawman to attack, LOL
>and what is a chance of that hm?
When he uses Wolfram Alpha for computation, very high.
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>>134439201
we wuz kaaaangzz
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>everyone
>white
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>>134448274
besides that, you are even contradicting yourself in your very own posts, saying that germany is affected by allies taking scientists and poland isnt affected by germans and russians murdering ours, where is the logic here?
tell me how can i treat you seriously when you dont deserve that?
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>>134436171
>poland
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Im black and im from Poland and People likes me as much as I like them. I love Poland!
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>>134438019
We hope.
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>>134448426
>Italian projection
No real Italians even exist anymore. It is completely against the most rational and reasonable conclusion to assume that all the conquest and foreign control of the land had no effect on the genotype of the subjugated peoples. Modern Italians are heavily mixed, very far-removed from their ancestors.
>>134448546
>saying that germany is affected by allies taking scientists and poland isnt affected by germans and russians murdering ours, where is the logic here?
[citation needed]
What massive operation was put in place to capture and utilize Polish intellectuals (implying) for foreign gain? Please cite such an operation siphoning the scientific innovation. Otherwise, you're making a false equivalency. After Communism fell, Poland has no excuse if even the Russians, who suffered far greater than any Poles, could prosper as they did. You have nobody to blame but yourselves, and you're STILL a shithole.
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>>134448621
ayoo das rite, nigguh
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>>134448274
>Are you that incompetent that even after Communism was removed, you kept corrupt judges?

Are you not getting that it was just "paper" democracy. The whole round table was farse, the "oposition" leaders were drinking and making deals with current commie dictator in Magdalenka (hotel).

Acctualy now when PIS finaly got to power they are unknoting this whole mess. While they are bunch of centrist catho socialist at least they hate commies.
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>>134446784
Uhhhh Russia does literally nothing but sell gas. They are basically identical to all the middle eastern niggers living in welfare states by sending raw materials to the west.
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>>134436171
crappy by what metric?
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>>134444146
>New Poles born are not victims of Communism

t. 1st world neet who never had to do anything in his life and had everything handed to him.

This is how you polturds come off to me. Please do waste your life shitpopsting on /pol/, you fucking losers, while your gf cucks you with tyrone. That's all you can do in your pathetic """"movement"""". I hope some day you'll experience at least 30% of shit that eastern europe has experienced. I really genuinely wish that to you. You all deserve to get South African treatment. I absolutely wouldn't even be sorry for you.
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>>134436593
Nailed it
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>>134447069
Aren't Eastern Europeans much more mixed with ottomans And Mongols
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>>134436171

I grew up there in 80s. Was shittier than by lot of standards. Came to US in early 90s. I have 2 houses, 2 cars make 6 figures. Still consider Polska best country on Earth. Always thinking about going back. My heart is always there. Have kid,w ant kid to experience growing up in non-shit country like Polska :(
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>>134448790
i said murdering and there, here you go, one case among many https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonderaktion_Krakau, not to mention infamous katyn provided to us by russians.
>russians suffered more than poles
[citation needed]
when were russians occupied?
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>>134448790
>still shithole

Crime index
War Thorn ukraine (literaly war zone) 50+
Sweden hurr durr 49
France 44
UK 41
Germany 32
Poland 30

https://www.numbeo.com/crime/rankings_by_country.jsp?title=2017-mid&region=150

I dare you to live for 3 weeks in Malmo in sweeden and be able to write report about that.

While buying power is low I would take living in safe homogenous contry any day over shitholes like Sweden or France.
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>>134436171
>Explain the contradiction /pol/
you and your malformed slav brethren are as close as it gets to being white niggers, so go figure
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>>134448850
>The whole round table was farse, the "oposition" leaders were drinking and making deals with current commie dictator in Magdalenka (hotel).
[citation needed]
Fix your shit, you're only expounding on my point that Poles are incompetent dolts incapable of properly governing themselves.
>>134448891
>They are basically identical to all the middle eastern niggers living in welfare states by sending raw materials to the west.
With the rate of Islam, you might have a point. But the standard of living is much better than shit nations in the ME. Poland has no excuse, then. You're just making the point that they are an inferior nation without access/capability to harvest/extract natural resources.
>>134448968
>t. 1st world neet who never had to do anything in his life and had everything handed to him.
>you see, childrun, da ebil commissar boogeyman be keepin me down in 2017
>fuck niggers, slavery and Jim Crow was already abolished, stop complaining
>muh ebil Stalin's gulag still killing innocent Poles to this day :`(
>Please do waste your life shitpopsting on /pol/, you fucking losers, while your gf cucks you with tyrone.
>that projection
Is this because Poland is STILL a failure compared to its neighbours? Sorry, but "muh commie boogeyman" is not an excuse for your personal shortcomings.
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>>134449092
oh also since you are probably too stupid to notice that, there is a nice link to intelligenzaktion on the right which you can follow
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Poland is poor but 99% white
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>>134436171
>INB4 MUH COMMUNISM
No, they are just shitty slavs.
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>>134449218
>step on snek flag
>talking about goverment

hitlerious

also shit is getting fixed currently, we are doing nice commie purge at this moment
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>>134449218
Yeah go shitpost your life away, you fucking incel pussy.


>>134449187
pic rel

I'm so glad ge*manic scum is getting eradicated from this earth. You're all despicable unlikeable scum.
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>>134448062
>You CLEARLY don't understand what a race is.
States with Slavic languages comprise over 50% of the territory of Europe, therefore it is the largest ethno-linguistic group in Europe by land area.[2] Present-day Slavic people are classified into West Slavs (chiefly Czechs, Poles and Slovaks), East Slavs (chiefly Belarusians, Russians, and Ukrainians), and South Slavs (chiefly Bosniaks, Croats, Macedonians, Montenegrins, Serbs, Slovenes and Bulgarians),[3] though sometimes the West Slavs and East Slavs are combined into a single group known as the North Slavs.[4][5][6]
and all these are non-white? Are you retarded? "slave" is not a race its used as a term for an ethnicity, theyre white. Thats their race.
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>>134448806
Thats what i was talkin bout boy!
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>>134448062
I did misspeak but the point is if you think Slavs arent white youre retarded. ok? glad we cleared that up.
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In all seriousness Poles why do your women love big black dicks?

It's not just in the UK Polish girls here love BBC as well. What's the deal?
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>>134449034
>Aren't Eastern Europeans much more mixed with ottomans And Mongols
not all no, thats why calling "Slave" non-white is wrong. Blonde hair blue eyed Poles, Russian, Greek, ect are obviously white and it takes a special kind of stupid to argue that.
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>>134449708
As sad as it sound that bitch would have hard time getting dick here.

lowest of low are runing away to UK, so yeah you get shit thier squating slavs and female coal burners.
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>>134449218
Lithuania is that you?
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>>134445080
>If it wasn't for Poles the entire games industry would be engulfed by SJWs, for one
poles, blacks, turks and fucking japs you fucking arab rape baby
dont you fucking dare just give poland credit for saving video games
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>>134436171
What does being white have to do with anything.
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>>134449890
We need to send all you subhumans back
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>>134449092
That isn't a specific operation meant to target Polish intellectuals that can be equated to the forceful brain drain and UTILIZATION of German minds. This was an attempt to "eradicate the Polish intellectual elite especially in those centres (such as KrakĂłw) that were slated by the Germans to become culturally German." In fact, it didn't even last for a calendar year and the professors were not specially rocket scientists. It is simply from "the university", and the amount captured are not equivalent.
>when were russians occupied?
By the Communist regime, they were starved and subjugated more so than the Poles, yet they have succeeded much more so. Polish failure is inexcusable, accept some individual responsibility. "Muh jim crow" isn't holding you down anymore.
>>134449148
Let's look at HDI: Poland is 0.855, while Israel, a "war zone" is 0.899.
>>134449420
Good for you, I'm glad to hear it. Tell your countrymen to stop absolving all agency and appealing to a boogeyman to explain their personal shortcomings. Stop being collectivist.
>>134449482
Touched a nerve, eh? Such resilient Polish intellectualism! HAHA
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>>134449917
>blacks
>making vide games
wot
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>>134449708
In all seriousness amerisharts why do your women love big black dick gangbangs?

blacked dot com

t. 56%

t. literally invented black cuck porn

t. once you go black you never go back

t. minority white in 10 years


You're like the last one to accuse anyone of coal burning m8
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>>134449482
>You're all despicable unlikeable scum.
watch as the slav lashes out as he realizes he is despised by everyone
seriously, all you do over here is take up the construction jobs which should mean that you're not interacting all too much with society, yet you're hated all the same
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>>134450045
i knew you would be too dumb
>>134449242
so russians were occupied by russians?
oh the suffering, mustve been hard on them.
anyway my patience is done
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>>134449678

I never said slavs arne't white, seems like you got upset due to somebody else and attacked me instead. I was just pointing out how wrong you were on what a race actually is, and you still don't seem to understand.
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>>134450289
>i knew you would be too dumb
Sorry, but taking academics and putting them into camps is not equivalent to siphoning brain energy for the purpose of achievement. Maybe because even the Germs realized Polish intellectual degrees were not worth the paper that they were printed on!
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>>134450045
>russians were occupied by Communist regime
best one so far xD
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>>134450129
Seriously why is this obviously such a sore spot? Sure girls of all ethnicities fuck blacks here but girls of Polish parents or who came directly here love black cock more than the average girl.

Other countries have collaberted this so no need to get all assmad just answer the question
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>>134436171

Poles, as most Slavs, are subhumans who cannot comprehend how to build an indigenous, efficient industry to sustain their people. Why do you think there is the "Poland Ball cannot into Space" meme ? Poland was a shithole before EU integration, still is but considerably better now because of EU gibs.
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>>134449917

> Blacks

????

> Turks

You mean Taleworlds? Bannerlord when?

> Japs

Well yeah.

... So what blacks are making non-SJW games?

>>134446588

>The oppressive system has been removed, there is no reason to not free up the markets right away and relish in free trade internationally.

Other than removing the communist, that's what they're doing. You're just showing a complete illiteracy in the way money works.

You need money to earn money, in most cases. It's the basic concept of ROI. It's an exponential growth thing, if all goes well. Which means things need time to get starting.
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>>134449571
>girl
>jawline better than most /pol/tards
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>>134450045
>Touched a nerve, eh? Such resilient Polish intellectualism! HAHA
Go upstairs, mom made fresh tendies

>>134450264
>>134450653

Good, I'm glad we're fucking up your country as much as we can. We're sending our trash to your trash country. You're the world's dumping ground and there's nothing you can do about it other than lash out on the internet.

You'll be burning in hell, don't you worry, piece of shit. And you DESERVE everything that's happening to you, just repeat it to yourself every day. In 100 years, you'll be nothing but a museum artifact.
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>>134450569
>best one so far xD
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union.
Even the Rooskies don't appeal to "look, we are a failure compared to our neighbours because muh gulags!"
Sorry, Poles STILL have no excuse. Keep on complaining about boogeymen, though
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>>134450408
not referring to your discurse with the burger now, but i would be glad if someone finally defined things like race and species in empirically measurable terms and shit once and for all.
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>>134450408
>I was just pointing out how wrong you were on what a race actually is, and you still don't seem to understand.
why are you so dumb?
Slavs are people who speak a Slavic language (or perhaps, more broadly, those who descend from people who spoke a Slavic language), and they would be racially Caucasian.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race
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>>134450045
Why you compare HDI, its as stupid as comparing GDP.

The cost of living here is low compared to "richer" nations.

In US you will pay 100$ for broadban internet and TV. And you get slaped with DATA CAPS.
Throw in next 50$+ for cell contract.
Here capless 80mbit with TV landline and cell with unlimited calls is 89 PLN (1$=4PLN). Do the math.

You can buy 2 room flat in mid sized city for 75-100k$ easy, 120-150k$ in larger town or central distcict. Same 100k$ will net you nice home in suburbs or some rural area.

Unemployment is all times low, we are literaly importing urks for low tier shit jobs (since poles that could do them ran away to UK to do toilet cleaning there).

Now the "poor" aka working for lowest pay have hard here thats why they preffer UK or Germany and doing same shit job for more. Moment you break 2,5k PLN (lowest pay is 1800ish) you have no problems with living.

And for fucks sake, Israel isnt war zone, they dont have ruskie separatist fucking up whole areas. Dont even compare current hell in ukraine to israel.
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>>134450693
>Which means things need time to get starting.
They've had long enough, I can understand the first ten years, or even fifteen. At this point, they have nobody to blame but themselves. Gulags are gathering dust and the shackles have been lifted, Poles are simply appealing to an eternal boogeyman to explain their lack of faculties required to succeed.
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>>134436171
>Whitest country in Europe

Czech Republic, Lithuania, Croatia....
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>>134450745
>Even the Rooskies don't appeal to "look, we are a failure compared to our neighbours because muh gulags!"
the bait is too strong, must... not... respond
fuck.
except thats what russians do all the time, boy.
as i said before, would be great if you were educated before opening your mouth
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>>134449571
>finland isnt white
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>>134450815
>its as stupid as comparing GDP.
We can look at real GDP, then. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_real_GDP_growth_rate
Poland still ranks low. Universally, it seems.
Or GDP based on PPP: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)
AGAIN, Poland ranks lower than other nations which have suffered more so.
>Israel isnt war zone
Lol, terrorism exists, sorry.
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>>134449034
not poland, those are serbs, bosniaks and Bulgars.
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>>134451010
>except thats what russians do all the time, boy.
[citation needed]
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>>134450653
give me more of that concrete bunker style poland boulding. Looks a lot better than that neon gay shit.
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>>134450745
>Soviet Union
A country made by russians occupied russians? Nice logic, totally not "communist boogeyman occupied us" xD
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>>134436171
You'll get nothing but the moronic third-world 'but but muh gomminism' replies. What 'colonialism' and 'raycissm' is to niggers, 'communism' is to the shitty Eastern Euro dumps.

That said, Poland is the only Eastern Euro country with an actual intellectual culture and a strong cultural output. (Despite their third-world mentality.)
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>>134450264
>despised by everyone

except the most powerful country in the world
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>>134439201

We wud hav be kangz.
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They're poor . Shame.. Their women are hot. If you visit places like Nova Houta you get to fuck poor 20 year olds for as little as 20 euros. Their parents just hand them out to the nearest bar . They are desperate for money lol.
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>>134451347

> Hur durr durr why aren't countries that only have been out of communism for 30 years not as advanced as countries with hundreds of years' head start?!?!?!?!?!??? we're dumb we can't into common sense
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>>134451086
Then fucking France or Sweden is war zone too. Well Sweden is acctual warzone.

Also you are still missing the point like fucking tupolev.

PS. Omiting the part about actual cost of live and buying power, very class . Typical lollibertain with reality filter.
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>>134438696
>broadband internet, cable, tv, and cellphone for $25 a month in poland

>same service is $80-100 in US

>average polish citizen makes $17,000 a year

>average American citizen makes $81,000 a year

Who's really getting fucked in that scenario? (hint it's not the Americans)
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>>134449326
You don't have anything to say in this discussion fucking Ukraine
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>>134451320
Except Rooskies don't appeal to their subjugation under Communism as a reason why they failed: they succeeded more so than retarded Poles and don't blame boogeymen for their failures and admit self-responsibility.
>>134451513
What is the equivalent to Hamas in Sweden or France?
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>>134451589
Check this :
>>134451427
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>>134451456
Protip, Poland was also pretty shit before communism. Explain that. (And before 'muh occupations': Poland was also pretty shit before the occupations too.)
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>>134440284
Shut up, Igor, mind your own business.
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>>134441531
>Portugal
>Greece
>T**key

wat?

I thought those were just memes
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>>134436171
>what is a communism?
>what is a gdp growth
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>>134451677
Poland was the largest and poorest state in EUrope . The Cossacks got independence -EASILY-.
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>>134451589
Which is why you need to accept 100 million Somalis, you filthy evil piece of shit nazi.

YOU OWE IT TO THEM!! NOW FUCK YOU AND PAY UP!!!
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>>134451653
Russians were never "subjugated" by communism you moron, that's my point. Fucking basic reading comprehension over here
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Never mind the banter. We love you Poland.
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>>134451839
>Russians were never "subjugated" by communism you moron, that's my point
Then neither were Poles, as there are no detriments to being ruled over an imperialist, Marxist regime.
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>>134451677
1610 best year of my life, and i remember poland being called the rich east and making bank on selling grain and dyes and shit to westerners while simultaniously fucking russians and turks up yes.
those were the times
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>>134441272
Same story here. I returned. Why? When I realized that the West is going to be a Muslim caliphat by the time I'll be a pensioner there, I will be an oppressed minority living in a sharia bazaar. No thanks, I am not paying taxes to import Muslims and negros. I will rather live a modest life and support my country with paying taxes and sleep well knowing that my country will be Hungarian even in 50 years time.

Greetings to Czechia, keep your country safe.
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>>134451653
ISIS ? Rapefuges ? Just check the list of nade attacks in Sweden.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-10/postal-service-suspended-swedish-no-go-zone-because-its-not-safe

Want more ? They literaly have no go zones where mudslimes would skullfuck you for fun.

>>134451589
You get shitty beer and bread. We get great beer and amazing bread. Good deal.

Not to mention no niggers here. No spic, no mudslimes.

And lets not talk about averages, your minimal wage drones are as fucked as ours.
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>>134436355
>>134436417
>>134436502
>New worlders think that they have any authority to tell ethnic europeans who is white and who isn't episode again
You are last people who can claim to be white you mixed 1/46 irish 26/10002 british 10000000/2143874643875643295632 German
Mongrels, you fuckas need to do genetic testings yust to determine your heretage and allmost allways have at least some non european blood, so shut tyhe fuck up.
This is coming frokm non slav BYW
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>>134452047
Only 1610 , and back then Polish identity did not exist. You were ruled by Germans and the majority was Ukrainian ! Apart from the intellectual memists on Facebook WHO LIVE IN UK , you have no one to say something positive about your country.
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>>134452123
A no-go zone is not equivalent to terrorist attacks killing hundreds. Israel has more terrorism than all of Europe, anti-Semite.
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>>134452170
>Only 1610 , and back then Polish identity did not exist. You were ruled by Germans and the majority was Ukrainian
wow dude, i mean at least try
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>>134446814
Maybe global recognition of the meme man himself will help him win next time
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>>134452047
You *are* aware that that country was too retarded to exist and self-destructed in the most spectacularly stupid way ever, right?

Do they teach you your own history in school?
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>>134451653
>Except Rooskies don't appeal to their subjugation under Communism as a reason why they failed: they succeeded more so than retarded Poles and don't blame boogeymen for their failures and admit self-responsibility.
russia has a literal fuck-ton of oil and gas to export. this is like the stupid socialists pointing at norway constantly. norway swims in oil, the rest of the world doesn't, shit comparison.
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>>134452311
No need to try here , now go fix a toilet.
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>>134451074
Finno-Ugric Khaganate when?
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>>134436171
WW2 and Communism its pretty simple.
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Polish people will drive unto each other , no need to worry about their petite state.

Proof : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOewNQ5OiMc
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>>134452344
Then Poles are just a shit nation right off the bat? Glad we agree.
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>>134436171
>Whitest country in europe
What?
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>>134451996
Poles were invaded and then ruled by force by russian communists and their puppets. We didn't ask for it.
Russians on the other hand built the system from ground up, and only through their own incompetence did it prove to be dogshit. They were the architects of their own (and ours) doom, not the victims.
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>>134452332
is that what they teach you in russia?
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>>134452558

Nations aren't real m8. They just have wrong values.
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>>134452558
>hiding behind a meme flag and insulting other nations for not lucking out with natural resources
back to plebbit with you, leaf.
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>>134452273
Yeah mudslimes doing nade attacks or just walking to barber shop and spraying from AK is nothing.

Also i chuckled, snek flag supporting Israel. fucking gold here
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>>134452671
>We didn't ask for it.
Stop dressing so provocatively, then.
What the fuck was so damning about Communism, then? If you say it was just the war, that didn't last when you were conquered. The crux of the argument is the institution of Marxism destroying Poland. This same argument is extended to the rest of the conquered land behind the curtain, as well as the USSR.
>>134452804
I mean that they lack any natural resources, as in the land is inferior.
>>134452829
I thought all the Polish plumbers were in the UK? Hm....
>>134452933
It isn't terrorism equivalent to the chosen people's land of Israel. False dichotomy, learn to argue, kiddie.
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>>134452123
>the list of nade attacks
>linking to total shit
Say 'no' to crack, nigger.
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>>134449148
>https://www.numbeo.com/crime/rankings_by_country.jsp?title=2017-mid&region=150

That's not accurate... Sweden more dangerous than Russia? Really? People just write their nonsense opinions on there
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Eastern Europe is a potpourri of tragedies.
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>>134452692
The Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth is a meme and a joke for the whole world, not just the Russians. Here's what (((wikipedia))) has to say on the matter, just as one example:

> When presented with periodic opportunities to fill the throne, the szlachta exhibited a preference for foreign candidates who would not found another strong dynasty. This policy often produced monarchs who were either totally ineffective or in constant debilitating conflict with the nobility. Furthermore, aside from notable exceptions such as the able Transylvanian Stefan Batory (1576–86), the kings of foreign origin were inclined to subordinate the interests of the Commonwealth to those of their own country and ruling house. This was especially visible in the policies and actions of the first two elected kings from the Swedish House of Vasa, whose politics brought the Commonwealth into conflict with Sweden, culminating in the war known as The Deluge (1655), one of the events that mark the end of the Commonwealth's Golden Age and the beginning of the Commonwealth's decline.
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>>134453085
Yeah peace trucks in France and Germany arent terror attacks.

They are based on same poison (islam).
But I do love how Germany is commiting suicide with rapefuges, they are literaly turning into shithole.

Let me guess you are US lollib that never seen real poverty, crime or acctual death ?

Take my advice, 3 week visit in Malmo - Sweden and tell me its not war zone. Wait, come back ALIVE and tell me its not war zone.
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>>134453166
>right in the kokoro

Sweden is hellhole, France is getting there too.

Enjoy your cultural enrichment, while V4 keeps beeing white nations.
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>>134453424
They are not equivalent to Hamas launching rockets. How many rocket attacks and missiles have been launched in Sweden?
Fucking anti-Semitic bigot. You Poles really ought to kowtow to Jews, given how your nation is filled with them... HAHA
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>it's a jamal talks shit about white people episode
Why do these shitskins believe they have any say ?
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>>134453323
it says we had bad luck with democratically elected kings, really, such a meme and joke
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>>134453625
>both kill people
>not equivalent

Jews ? Majority went on holocauster rides, after that commies did nice cleanse too.

The ones that are left are to fucking affraid to rise thier heads.

PS. Booked that Malmo flight kid ?
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>>134453424
>visit in Malmo - Sweden and tell me its not war zone
Was there just three days ago. It isn't. You are a moron. Do yourself a favour and shut the fuck up, nigger.
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>>134453625

Sweden has no missiles to launch. They only have grenade attacks, but these are "isolated incidents related to criminal activity." Where a fucking 8 year old boy eating in a restaurant get's grenade shrapnel to the fucking chest and dies in-front of his mother.
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>>134453564
Sweden and France don't look bad compared to Poland.
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>>134453323
Which is why wewuzing about the past is retarded. But you're VERY guilty about this too,i t's just you have much more relevant stuff to wewuz while drink yourself to death and get aids.

>>134453424
>>134453564
>polak unironically believes poltard memes

I can 100% guarantee that in 20-30 years they'll still be wealthy and mostly white while you'll be at the level of Greece
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>>134436171
communism's one helluva drug
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>>134453869
+ US
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>>134453848
I never said they didn't both kill people.
There is a difference between Islamic gang violence and terror attacks amounting to a few hundred and THOUSANDS of dead Israelis by missile attacks. Gravity/magnitude is tilted in favour of the Jews, far greater terrorism. Yet they still succeed WITH Arab monsters, unlike idiotic Poles.
>>134453860
Exactly, grenades aren't equivalent to missile attacks, not even close.
>>134453564
See: >>134453869
You've been debunked, again... ouch...
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>>134453880
what do i win if you fail, memeflag faggot?
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>>134436171
Slavshits are absolutely useless.
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>>134450793

Yes, but "white" is not a race and "slav" is not a race, you stated there were multiple races within the slav term. You are dumb.
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>>134453776
Lemme greentext your own history to you, since your schools apparently failed to teach the subject:
> Polish nobles invite Swedish king to rule over Poland
> get into a fight over succession and influence bullshit
> invite Swedecucks into your country to shit on your fellow nobles
> war starts
> eventually a *third* of the Polish population gets killed, every Polish city razed
Like a said, the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth is a meme and a warning, the most stunning example of a failed state in world history.
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>>134454110
A nation worth waving a flag...
Polish flag is about as useful as toilet paper, the nation is just one big failure of Europe. Always blaming others
>muh russians keeping me down in 2017
>muh nazis keeping me down in 2017
People ITT are seeing past your retarded gimmicks...
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>>134454391
Shhhhh, don't hurt Polish "people's" feelings...HAHAHAHAHHA
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>>134454308
yeah dude almost same exact shit happened during dimitriads, such an unprecedent shit a civil war with foreign help really, such a meme and joke.
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>>134436171
Poland has always been a battlezone throughout Yurop's history, so it never got a chance to develop properly. Communism also didn't doo too much good. The Berlin Wall dividing Western Europe form Eastern Europe only fell in '89.
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>>134436171
They're Catholic lol.

Even if you have low melanin, unless you are a white anglo-saxon protestant of British/Dutch background, you're going to be shit.
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>>134453869
>comparing crime rates to homicide rates

Ukraine is at 50 crime index, sweden is at 49 france is 44

Remeber surviving acid atack or getting stabbed by mudslime wont increase homicide rates.

But it will fuck up your crime index.
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It's literally one of fastest growing economies in Europe
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>>134454379
>Polish flag is about as useful as toilet paper
now i want to literally murder you for spitting on my flag, no joke
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>>134449846
Why aren't they? They got fucken encompassed by their empires. If you think white has anything to do with skin color you're a fucking idiot.
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>>134454110
You'll win a 1st world country rather than a 2nd world soviet shithole if I fail, but it's unlikely.

You're now at middle-income economy, and you have 0 technological potential which is absolutely necessary to get richer, otherwise enjoy your growing public debt, total dependence on Germany, and generally PIGS-tier economy.

You should take example from South Korea and generally Asian tigers, which was the last countries to get out of middle income economy.
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>>134454309
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>>134454542
Crime isn't a great metric to score higher on, Pole.
>>134454581
No, it's not just my opinion, Polish national identity is a joke. Nothing to be proud of, consistently conquered, endlessly victimized then, when freed, still appeal to "I am LITERALLY ENSLAVED that's why I failed... right?".
Just kys you pathetic Polish peasant.
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>>134454498
Inviting a foreign power into your ""country"" and encouraging them to kill a third of your country's population is something that only happened in Poland's history. (The really incredible thing is that Poland even did this more than once.)
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>>134454641
lol you are american, you should know how sk got developed, but no, its /pol/ everyone is talking about topics they know shit about with arrogance they didnt earn right to posess
im tired now
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>>134454753
Yeah thats why we are at 30 index, hell even germany thanks to mutti merkel is 32.

A sweden is almost on same level as ukraine.
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>>134454874
I would be tired, too, if I lived in such a shitty country with nothing to be proud of.
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>>134454779
Explain...
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>>134454551
hush, dont tell them that
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>>134454967
>absolute German disaster mass migration
>Poles are barely underneath it, despite literally no illiterate Arabs
WOW, pat yourself on the back, Pole! Good boy!
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>>134455016
[citation needed]
Meanwhile, in reality: http://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FList_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)
http://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FList_of_countries_by_real_GDP_growth_rate
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>>134454779
>what is 30 years war
one of many
>russian education
>>134454753
you are already dead in my eyes, mongrel
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Poland please do this. Unite with the rest of your brethrens. Get rid of the subhuman krauts and destroyers of western civilization once and for all.

pic related.
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>>134454087
Looks pretty bad over there. And also Russia, Romania, Finland, Baltic countries.
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>>134455065
they used to be on 20ish with Austria

still gemrs know how to keep ordnung

not so much in france or WARZONE SWEDEN
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>>134436171
Because all the nigs and shitskins went to the nicest countries for the gibs
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>>134436171
>explain the contradiction
Commies, but that 'suffering' has built up their character. Compare that to the "prosperous" west, which is consumed by degeneracy and voting itself into oblivion. If I weren't Russian by blood, I'd move there as soon as I got the chance.
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>>134455170
>you are already dead in my eyes, mongrel
>Pole
>calling anybody a mongrel
No real Poles even exist anymore. It is completely against the most rational and reasonable conclusion to assume that all the conquest and foreign control of the land had no effect on the genotype of the subjugated peoples. Modern Poles are heavily mixed, very far-removed from their ancestors. Nothing to be proud of AND your people aren't "poles" anymore.
>>134455232
Again, not a great thing to be a tier above fucking GERMANY.
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http://stats.oecd.org/Index.aspx?DataSetCode=BLI
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>>134455372
Poles do act like niggers, they are basically white niggers. No heritage, no ancestry, nothing to be proud of. That's why the old saying is still true today: better to live like a nigger than to live with a Pole.
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>>134454967
Why are you still here, mythomaniac?
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>>134454581
His a fakeflag faggot, probably Hans from Cuckland or some similar.

pic Poles and Hungarians celebrate the opening of restoring the common border after centuries.
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>>134436171
>Pretty crappy
There are practically no non-whites, so they don't have to suffer racial tensions, hatred, and violence. Kikes have little pull, there. It's the furthest thing from crappy. I doubt there any many, if any, better places to be on this planet for a European/white person.
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>>134455541
Poles are unemployed, see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unemployment_in_Poland.
They have a lot of free time... lazy idiots, really.
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>>134455564
Didn't know Poles were faggot manboys, too! LOL Hahahaha
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>>134455517
No flag, no valid opinion.
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>>134454529
This is true, Poles are really shit. They love shit so much, they love to be plumbers to spend time with Anglo shit, too! Hahaha
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>>134455658
Shitty snake meme flag, no valid opinion.
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>>134455720
Rather have a libertarian flag with history and heritage than a Polish flag only worth grazing the dirty anuses of Brits.
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>>134455808
Not an argument, try harder. Poles will still be a worthless people with no identity or anything to be proud of.
>muh ebil Commies keepin da Pole man down in 2017!!!
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>>134455611
So why don't show your country, idiot. Literally like a 12 year old jerk with his pants at his ankles larping while watching blacked.com in another tab in his mom's basement.
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>>134455611
Not all of them. Just that idiot. Poles who work and try to make ends meet are OK with me.
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>>134455813
So which country opted officially that yellow snake flag nobody in the world knows? Faggotlandia?
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>>134455925
I don't think superior USA even deserves to present themselves to inferior Poles, let alone grace them with the greatest flag of all time.
>>134455927
But all the Poles ITT are appealing to a boogeyman to explain their failures.
>>134456026
Except libertarianism and free markets is what will make Eastern Europe great, retard.
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So much butthurt in this thread.

Fantastic
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>>134455916
>people with no identity
somebody with a memeflag.
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>>134456091
>retard
says fakeflag faggot
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>>134456104
>tu quoque
Try a little harder, nothing about what I said changes. Poles don't even exist, don't call them Poles. Modern Poles are heavily mixed due to conquest and land exchange. No "real" Poles exist.
>>134456177
>I hate capitalism
No wonder Eastern Europe is a shithole.
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>>134456279
Woah... so this is the power of Polish ingenuity...
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>>134455611
>>134455658
>>134455760
>>134455813
>>134455916
>>134456091

Hey butthurt snownigger. I think its time to take that double dose of vicodin tonight and neck yourself.
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>>134454308
You mean this one??
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deluge_(history)

Just look at the numbers...
By the way. We won that shit.
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>>134456366
Well, Poles aren't even white, so you're just insulting your fellow failed brethren. Poles are heavily mixed, lacking in any resemblance to their ancient forefathers. Modern Poles are heavily mixed people, real "Poles" went extinct a long time ago.
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>>134453869
>2012
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Fun fact : Poles are so disfunctional they can't even organize an Uprising against 200 soldiers.
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>>134455372
based spain, we might be kinda poor but life here is good. which explains our france tier number of immigrants and the million bong retirees
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>>134456589
Shhhh, don't hurt the Poles' feelings, he will call it "oppression" and use it as an excuse to explain why Poland is such a failure.
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leave poland alone, they are like a game reserve for white people, like here in burgerland we set aside forest for endangered animals so they can live without fear with their kind and live freely.
poland is like a game reserve for white people, while all the other countries in europe start to join the
> 56% club
especially france and germany and sweden
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https://jakubmarian.com/mortality-due-to-cardiovascular-disease/
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>>134456685
Lol, Poles can thank Germans for that ethnic homogeneity by removing Jews, HAHAHAA
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>>134456625
1000 cossacks manage to get independence from the "Empire of Poland " aka Commonwealth. I'm laughing so hard right now. In Holland , Poles are plain criminals and low life scum.
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>>134449846
>Blonde hair blue eyed Poles, Russian, Greek, ect are obviously white
And darker-eyed and/or haired aren't?
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>>134456748
Now bring up suicide and watch pathetic Poles killing themselves, even idiotic Poles realize how stupid their nation is!
>>134456762
HAHAHAH, Poland is such an international and historical JOKE
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>all the Poles abandon the thread in the face of statistics and historical events
Hm..... Polish "intellectuals" BTFO!
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>>134456752
They still needed someone else to remove the Jews.. Come on Poland you're strong , go plumb that toilet!

>>134456785
Greeks have something to be proud of . So do the Russians . The Poles however have no history , no cultural heritage nothing. Byzantine Empire and Third Rome are better.
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>>134456896
Poles are so shitty their only catharsis to mitigate their failures is to unite their hands with Anglo turds!
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>>134456876
No , they plumb the toilets tomorrow and have to sleep.
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>>134457020
Oh yeah. Go to bed, Poles, you have to wake up early to plumb those toilets! Get to it!
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>>134457059
>55 posts
kek
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/apr/08/europe-news-poland
"But at home, Poles do not consider themselves hardworking. Some even suggest that communism has created a nation of lazy bones."
>Poles genetically altered to be lazy rejects
HAHAHAHAHA
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>>134456227
LOL Nigger with yellow flag, you are still fake as fuck.
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>>134457179
See: >>134457190
Already debunked, Poles are an inferior breed of people and all Poles who tried to debate me have already been thoroughly refuted. Nice try, though! LOL
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>kEckSti2
>52 posts by this ID
Damn, that's a lot of butthurt.
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>>134457249
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>>134457234
Go to bed, Pole. Toilets need plumbing! I just ate a big meal, I will be making a big shit you will need to fix after I destroy the toilet!
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>>134457234
Better be fake as a person than be from a fake country.
Hangery much??
>>134457249
Poles are scum.
>>134457280
Yeah , a lot of butthurt , and you have to clean it up tomorrow , Jan.
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>>134457280
>>134457305
>Poles incapable of addressing points raised about Polish GDP per PPP, unemployment stats, disease rates, homicide rates, etc.
Sad!
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>>134457190
Says a nigger who is ashamed of his country's flag. Probably a toyboy of Mutti Merkel.
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>>134457376
Oh man, my stomach hurts! I feel a big shit the idiot Pole will have to fix!
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>>134457373
What points?
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>>134457344
>euroflag
>replying to expired thread
I don't even make this shit up.

Also
>>134457234
Love you Hungbro
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>>134457376
Go get some shut-eye, idiot Pole! I'm sure you are making your people proud by cleaning toilets...
>>134457464
>Poles proving they can't read
HAHAAHA
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>>134436171
western europeans =/= eastern europeans
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>>134457344
LOL EUcuck, enjoy getting raped by Mutti Merkel's "refugees". You are just a cuck ashamed of his flag, country, nation and you make these hate threads. Poor you, nationless nigger faggot.
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>>134457529
Get some shut-eye to clean toilets tomorrow, you need it!
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>>134457376
nah its a half nigger from america, prolly new york, he said it himself few posts ago, his skull is too thick for talk magyarbrat give it a rest, i did
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>>134457521
>Poles proving they can't read
What do you mean?
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>>134457598
Incapable to read sources I've cited. What more do you expect of a Pole.
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>>134436171
T. 56% "white" :DDDDDD
>implying slavs are even white
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>>134457478
Love you Polskabro, we always fight shoulder to shoulder and save our nations from these degenerates, commies, turks, westcucks all alike.
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>>134457649
Which sources?
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>>134456091
>Poles ITT
/pol/ and 4chan in general is often a garbage dump for socially dysfunctional autists, but I don't count them as representative. Sometimes they are useful idiots, sometimes they are useless idiots.
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>>134457521
Get a real flag, faggot, that yellow thing is literally toiletpaper.
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>>134457376
You Hungarian/Romanians are the same.
>>134457478
You only make up your national identity.
>>134457464
Scroll up.
>>134457524
They are scum, brit.
>>134457529
Come up with a better arguement once you finish school.
>>134457598
Scroll up..
>>134457661
Tatars have been integrated within the Polish society since the 17th Century , you guys are pretty much alike. (turkic)
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>>134457709
>Poles STILL can't read the thread
>>134457661
>Poles
>something to be proud of
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>>134457746
LOL nice projection RIGHT TO TOILETS HAHA
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>>134457746
You swear because it's your only defence. Your lack of education shows up , mate.
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>>134457746
CAN'T GET YOUR MIND OFF TOILETS HAHAH
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>>134457832
>Poles
>educated
HAHAHA
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>>134436171

It's almost as if something happened that wiped out the most capable men of previous generations
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>>134457898
>Poles
>capable of anything
Not in 2017. They can only blame themselves.
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>>134457951
>They can only blame themselves
For what?
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>>134456279
What the hell is up with south ireland?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOewNQ5OiMc

Polish driving. They go and buy used cars from Germany for a low price and hundreds of km's and drive them around town , crash into people and repeat the circle.
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>>134457852
You are my new toilet now.
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>>134457751
>made up national identity
>survived 123 of nonexistence
Sure thing m8
>>134457898
Repeatedly... It's pretty sad because now, when we have a chance to bounce back, we're subjected to brain drain.
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>>134458057
Their own failures. Poland is objectively inferior to other nations.
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>>134458092
Well, Poles are heavily mixed. No 'real Poles' exist.
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>>134457832
>You swear because it's your only defence.
>>134457751
>They are scum, brit.
At least be coherent. You can't just throw fishing poles and expect any reactions, so there is no surprise that you are being ignored.
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