Algebra shouldn't be a required class because it's

>>134383744
should just get rid of it altogether. I have never used any math in my life and i make 50k a year. I never needed to find X anytime in my life.

>>134383963

Seriously, they need to do away with general education bullshit that 90% of people will never use.

If you're a STEM major, you shouldn't take literature. If you're not a STEM major, you shouldn't take algebra. You will NEVER use it.

>>134384085

This is mentality embodies just about everything wrong with modern education.

Specialization is for ants.

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>>134383744
I've been waiting to post this
>taking algebra class in college
>by the 5th week every single nigger has dropped the class
Algebra should definitely be required in all education majors

They tried for decades to equalize test scores by bringing black students up. Now they've abandoned that like a black father and are happy to bring white students scores down instead, after all equal is equal. Enter Common Core.

>>134384085
I'm a data scientist / data warehousing engineer

Half of my day is writing documentation, summarizing problems and resolution strategies, clarifying requests from clients and senior management, and/or making presentations for meetings.

STEMs need lit. You're an ass.

>>134384085
>If you're a STEM major, you shouldn't take literature.
nigga you have no fucking clue what you are talking about

am a computer engineering major and last semester i spent 15 horus a week preparing labs and doing lab write ups. basic persuasion skills via writing is a basic necessity for any sort of higher education.

>>134383963
>>134384085
>Yeah intemediate algebra is so hard, right guys? I never have to use reason at my mcjob

>>134384276

Your mentality embodies everything wrong with modern education. I'm all for having generalized intellectual interests, but not at college, where you're paying thousands of dollars per credit.

College courses are worthless wastes of time, anyway. If you read two books on any subject, you'll probably learn more than you would in a typical course.

>>134383744

Who is this titcow

>>134384085
This is remedial algebra. X + 2 = 5X

If you can't pass this you are completely retarded. Basic alelgebraic equations are necessary for understanding the world.

You're retarded.

>>134384431

Literature does not equal writing instruction. Did I say STEM major shouldn't take a first year writing course or did I say they shouldn't take a literature course?

Clearly your reading comprehension skills could use some improvement, though, I'll admit. Maybe studying British Romantic poetry would help with that. I don't know.

You're the ass, you big dumb, silly man. *slaps you*

>>134384605
>Basic alelgebraic equations are necessary for understanding the world.

No, they're not. You're an idiot.

>>134383744
MILK

>>134383744
agreed coding is easy as fuck, and only getting easier. Hell, with Unity, you can make a 3d vr game withoug typing a single line of code. Just clicking and entering values in easy to understand forms, with a multitude of freely available tutorials,

coding degrees that require separate calculus (1+2) and physics (1+2) are completely pointless. Not to say you wont use calculus, but all the calculus principles you need for modern coding can be taught in one semester in a class called "math for computer science majors"

Math classes have the highest fail rate for a reason. its a scam and oversold. Student attrition in those highly repeated courses is a major profit center for universities.

>>134384494
If you graduate college without a basic grasp of the classics and an ability to use basic mathematical reasoning skills, your degree is worthless. they are talking about fucking intermediate algebra. this isn't like diff equations or abstract set theory or something

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>>134383744
Just a friendly reminder that if you didn't pass algebra in high school, you probably should be gassed.

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>>134383963
>i make 50k a year
Is that supposed to be an achievement?

>>134384605
lol that's not even applicable ANYWHERE

Where will I need to find blank +2 apples will equal to 5 times blank?

>>134384678
If you can't understand solving for X many basic concepts, such as supply and demand curves, are incomprehensible.

If you.can't solve X + 2 = 5X you shouldn't be going to college.

>>134384678
>his world is flipping burgers

>>134384748

Like they have you read anything but fucking Frankenstein and The Yellow Wallpaper, anyway.

>>134384605
nigger cattle don't need to understand shit

they just need to fart in mud and eat from their feed troughs.

chewing on cud, stupid fucking nigger cattle. fucking dumb niggers all in a row. America for the nigger cattle.

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>>134384085

That's literally the entire point of a University education. If you want a one-topic education you go to a trade school. That's why the highest tier professions require you to be educated at a University before you can apply to the trade school.

>>134384799

Of course the vast majority of people don't need to ever do that, though, do they?

>>134384678 (You)
>his world is flipping burgers

No, you're the one whose world is doing that, not me.

>>134384790
what are you, a fucking apple scavenger or something? Basic algebra is an essential skill for a reasonably intelligent person.

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>>134384790
>>134384678
so what are you going to do when you are sending out purchase orders and your boss wants you to buy as many units as possible given a certain budget? just keep guessing until you are right?

but im sure noone trusts you with money!

>>134384790
Basic algebra is used all the time in basic business skills, such as finding the price per unit of a given quantity and total price.

If you can't solve basic algebra you shouldn't be going to college.

>>134384678
Not comprehending basic mathematic equations is a demonstration of a lack of intelligence.

You might understand the world in your own special retard way, but don't pretend you're equal.

>inb4 different kinds of intelligence excuses

>>134384431
A single class called business English is all that's needed. Greek philosphy, history of war, etc. still don't have anything to do with this.

>>134384836
>The Yellow Wallpaper

kek I literally just had to read that awful shit and pretend to be impressed by how "good" it was because muh feminism.

>>134384431
>>134384452
why do you morons have to study literature to be able to write basic fucking English? are you retarded?

>>134383744
who the fuck is this

>>134383744

Who/what is this from?

>>134384951

Of course someone who had a job like that would have a degree in which they would learn the necessary mathematics.

I didn't say no one should study Algebra.

Goodness balls the shitty reading comprehension of some people on here.

>Me: Algebra isn't necessary for all majors.
>dumbass STEM majors: HOLY FUCK DID U HEAR THAT!?!? HE LITERALLY THINKS NO ONE SHOULD STUDY ALGEBRA

Then I guess college shouldn't be a thing since it's harder for whites to get excepted thanks to affirmative action.

>>134383963
>I have never used any math in my life and i make 50k a year.

50k = 50000

Solve for k.

>>134384916
>Of course the vast majority of people don't need to ever do that, though, do they?
The vast majority of people have no business in college. Why should we water down college educations so ditch diggers can pass?

Fuck you guys. Algebra is the best. It is the most important thing I learned in any of my schooling and I have a BS. If you can't figure out how to apply it, then you didn't learn it.

>>134383744
>literally says niggers are stupid to do math
>thinks this is somehow not white supremacy

Algebra should be taught because it is a precursor to logic. Unfortunately algebra is poorly taught and logic is neglected.

>>134385088
>Algebra isn't necessary for all majors.
name one

>>134384528
Julia Benson

>>134385119

And you have to wait until college algebra to learn that sort of thing.

You pro-Algebra-for-everyone people are grasping at straws here.

>>134385088
Basic functional algebra is necessary for understanding the world. If you aren't smart enough to understand X + 2 = 4, you aren't smart enough to write a book.

>>134384732
I agree that most math classes are a scam, but that is only because they are too easy and cater to the lowest common denominator. The pass rate for most college math classes is significantly higher than it should be. Most math classes can be passed simply by memorizing formulas instead of understand concepts, its only when you move on to actually applying the concept you learned in math to physics do most students realize how little they actually understood and that they were only solving problems that were spoon fed to them.

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>>134384916
>134384678 # (You)
>his world is flipping burgers
Check out this newfag.

>>134384308
I had a nigger show up 4 weeks in of my vector calculus class, talk the professor into enrolling him, then we never saw him again after the first test, which was the week after he signed up. I don't know what that idiot was thinking.

>>134384678
Well, I suppose if you want to flip burgers for a living...

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>>134385088
>STEM major
>dumbass

choose one, IQlet

>>134385204

That's not even college algebra. Straw man arguments everywhere. seriously.

>>134385119
That is an underated post

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>>134385052
because being able to write persuasively is a basic skill any semi intelligent person will have to fucking have. you cant just shit all over an academic paper or scientific journal and hope your peers will accept it. you have to be able to word smith

>>134385088
point is that algebra is super fucking easy and that if you cant even do that you are a low iq nigger. Employers can not give you an iq test before you apply, but if they see you cant even do algebra it gives them a good idea at where you are at.

>>134383744

also, asians count as white in this instance while spics don't.

I got a BBA in Finance and an MBA without ever taking any calc classes in college.

I now make 115k a year

>math

>>134383963
>50k
Whoa watch out, we have a near middle class moron.

College Algebra was so fucking easy.
I got one test question wrong over the entire course.

>>134385170
>Julia Benson
so stargate universe lul

I just graduated this past spring and let me tell you how fucking stupid the algebra system is. It is useful for (very) basic things like X + 2 = 5X but that's about as far as it gets, and everyone knows it. At least once a week students would ask our teacher how the fuck any of this would actually help us later on in life and he never could defend anything past "youll need it later on the test" Seriously FUCK you. These are grown ass people who have devoted their entire careers to teaching children topics of which 99% of the info is utterly pointless. But hey at least they get paid shit :)

>>134384605
.5

>>134384990
Went to college, took algebra, haven't used it sense. I work in MIS and I have a Masters degree. Literally the only time I use math is in subnetting or doing basic arithmetic.

>>134385260
College algebra is not difficult to anyone with a functioning brain. If you can't deal with it, you aren't smart enough for college. Basic algebra is necessary for understanding the world and is the basis for most logic.

>>134385052
>>134385028
It's about being able to converse and relate to people who may be of a higher echelon than you. Do you not want to ever get ahead? Do you want to stare people blankly in the eye when they make a basic literary reference?

>>134385259

As a STEM major, shouldn't you know what fucking venn diagram is?

If I said "dumbass STEM majors are saying X" does that mean I think all STEM majors are dumbasses or that some are dumbasses and they, the dumbass STEM majors, are saying such and such?

You idiot STEM majors have certainly convinced me, though, that you have awful reading comprehension skills. You all need basic classes in informal logic and critical thinking.

>>134385028
History classes are fun extra classes to take, though.

>>134385281
.... calc isn't necessary for vast majority of non stem jobs, but to just say no exposure to calc is pretty dumb imo. But reasonable minds can disagree on that. Not learning algebra is really fucking dumb. You are pretty barbarian if you can't understand algebra

>>134385358
you're responding to a position no one has even taken in here. congratulations on being a fucking imbecile.

>>134385119
>50k = 50000
>Solve for k.
50000 / 50 = 4*4*4
4*4*4 = 20
Holy Fuck.

>>134383744
bring back eugenics, anyone who can't pass algebra should not breed

>>134383744
>muh algebra
>muh symbolic logic
>muh programming job in any big city
>not important
>California school official
Makes sense

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>>134383744
I took algebra in the 7th grade.

>>134385199
Face the fact that you're a mouth breather and will account for as much in the end. Hopefully for you whatever braindead major you're gunning for will allow you to eke out an existence.

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Part 1) Women and Degree of Choice.

>>134383744
It's numbers and stuff. History shows that the only reason a man was on the Moon was because of black people.

>>134385532

I'm 28, and have a master's degree, and already make plenty of money. And guess what? I never use algebra.

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>>134385553
Part 2) Women and Degree of Choice

>>134385438
>Youre responding to a position no one is taking

>>134384678
>Basic algebraic equations are not necessary for understanding the world

Great bait, you had me going for 10 minutes.

>>134385293
depending on the state 50k can be above average by a few 10k. i'm guessing you're from an urban shithole that costs a fortune to live in. move out to the counties, it's 10x better at least. you can get a 2.5k sqft home for around 80k where i live.

>>134385293
You don't know what middle class is or what his living situation is. If he's single, lives in Detroit and makes 50k he's upper middle class. If he lives in Silicon Valley and has a family of 4 he's basically at the poverty level making 50k. I don't know why people on 4chan don't seem to get this. You're "so smart" but yet don't realize that cost of living varies widely.

>>134383744
In a radio interview he said that interpretation "was the furthest thing from the truth", and talked about "alternate paths to math (.. something)". He never gave any examples of those alternate paths though.

>>134384431
>>134384452
>literature = writing reports
You fucking retards, jesus christ

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>>134384951
exactly.

>>134384790
>>134384678
If you have $30, and gas costs $3 a gallon, tell me how many gallons you can buy...if you can answer this, you know algebra. you might not be aware that you do, but you do.

Like I can't think of a day I haven't used algebra y'all retarded af.

>>134385673
Yeah, here in ohio 50k is not bad. If your spouse also works then you are solidly middle class.

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>>134385354
>haven't used it sense
>sense
You've got 2nd grade spelling skills you lying illiterate shitter.

>>134385582
>like nonstem degrees actually mean anything anymore


Dude I'm history major and earning a JD part time. Non stem graduate degrees are jokes. JD is probably the only non stem degree that you can even argue the rigor of but even then there's a lot of fucking dumb law students, even at top law schools

>>134384494
>algebra
>college

wtf, why are american schools so retarded?

>>134385382
I am a STEM major (Information Systems). I don't use math, and I took 2 or 3 math classes total none of which were calculus. Algebra and Math for Computing.

>>134385553
>>134385612
Blacks;

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/african-americans-over-represented-among-low-paying-college-majors/

>African-Americans over-represented among low-paying college majors

>More African-Americans are going to college than ever before. But according to new research from the Center on Education and the Workforce at Georgetown University, African-American college students are more likely to pursue majors that lead to low-paying jobs, setting up many for future debt and underemployment.

>African-Americans make up only a small percentage of some of the highest-paying of majors, including those in STEM and business. They’re only 8 percent of engineering, 7 percent of mathematics and 5 percent of computer science majors. Worse, Carnevale said even those who do major in high-paying fields, typically choose the lowest paying major within them. For example, the majority of black women in STEM typically study biology, the lowest-paying of the science discipline. Among engineers, most black men study civil engineering, the lowest-paying in that sector.

>African-American college students tend to have majors in public service which are also some of the country’s lowest-paying. As this chart shows, African-Americans are over-represented in majors that are some of the lowest paying. Image from Center on Education and the Workforce

>>134385582
You're lying to yourself, not me.

>>134385332
>At least once a week students would ask our teacher how the fuck any of this would actually help us
You shouldn't put any merit to what some random group-think highschooler says about anything unless you're also an idiot yourself, which is sounds like you are.

>>134384605
You don't need algebra per se, but being able to turn a situation around in your head and see it from different angles (which I think algebra needs, too, and may help build skill for) - /is/. At least for any kind of thinking job.

>>134385640
You said:
>College algebra is not difficult to anyone with a functioning brain. If you can't deal with it, you aren't smart enough for college.

Of course I never said Algebra shouldn't be required of everyone because it is difficult. Rather, I said it shouldn't be required for everyone because it is unnecessary for many majors.

All right.

I'm really tired of responding to stupid STEM majors with 0 reading comprehension or critical thinking skills. Seriously, what is the point if you can't even comprehend what I'm saying?

>me: College Algebra is pointless for many majors, because they will stop using it after they finish the class

>you idiots:
>HE LITERALLY SAID NO ONE SHOULD STUDY ALGEBRA
>HE SAID ALGEBRA IS TOO HARD AND SHOULD BE DISCONTINUIED!!!
>HE SAID ALGEBRA SHOULD BE BANNED
>HE SAID STEM MAJORS R DUM

blah, blah

Geez. Fucking idiots.

>>134385816
Community college. A lot of people attend them to get their gen eds finished on the cheap before going to a state school.

>>134385382
It could be interpreted either way in general conversational English(most likely mine). Since we're on an anonymous Canadian message board, perhaps you should be more clear, faggot.

Also, there are very few dumbass STEM majors, rarer than hen's teeth.

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>>134385553
>>134385612
>>134385844
Did you know that the IQ for mental retardation was lowered? Yes it really was!
By no other than Civil Rights activists AND in California, just like the gentlemen OP described.

>>134385745
Yeah, I don't know how I missed that. My brain is fried. If you think that people who have advanced degrees have great spelling I've got news for you. I've worked with Engineers and Attorneys who write like shit.

>>134384308
>taking algebra class in college

Wow, so you with your 90 IQ are smarter than the niggers with 85 IQs.

Algebra is a high school subject.

>>134385715
>>134385715
>implying someone actually will look at the price per gallon when filling up
>car have less than a 10 gallon tank
>doesn't fucking matter
Owned


https://photomath.net/en/

And Apps like this exist anyways. Why do you need to learn Algebra ANYMORE? when you can just download apps like Photomath and it SOLVES everything.

>>134383963
Most of the time your education is just something to show hiring managers you can problem solve. Even if you will never use algebra for a certain position the people doing the hiring will see you can complete high school level math and might not be legally retarded

>>134383744
If you can't do simple algebra you should be sterilized. Literally salivating, shit throwing retard tier if you can't.

>>134385872
Nice wall of text and ad homs. If you aren't smart enough for college algebra, you aren't smart enough for college.

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>>134385582
>>134383744
>>134383963
>>134385281
>>134385665
>hurrr duurrrr i make money so thererfore its stupid and my way of living is right!

in america you can make hundreds of thousands of dollars for spreading your pussy online for middle aged men to fap too. Noone is saying that you cannot find a way to make a wage without algebra, surely your world will not stop without it

We are saying however that if you cannot do even the most basic of algebra, than you are 100% a low iq nigger. There is nothing wrong with teaching kids IN SCHOOL basic fucking math skills. OP is confirmed a high schooler who hates his algebra teacher

>>134385685
no but writing persuasively can not only be learned through grammar. literature is about the art of writing, which is again a basic skill people should have, and use on the daily.

>>134385872
It's not stem autism preventing your message to get a across. You're just stupid. Like how do you even have solid personal finance skills if you don't fucking understand algebra

>>134385872
>all those strawmen
Go to bed.

>>134385986
Algebra is a middle school subject man. Some people start in elementary school.

>>134384732
Yeah, what do you need math for CS for? Really, just working out Big O - and even then, maybe that's just algebra.

But I think it's not a scam, it's just part of the vision that CS people are thinking people. You want a CS person to be able to innovate, and map onto applied fields which /do/ have calculus say, and not just be a code monkey. There are already 'code monkey' certificates out there.

>>134386041
>shitty teacher excuse
Just admit your shitty teaching job is the most useless of jobs ever.

>Hurr math teacher!
>so bad at math that he can't even be an engineer
>only good enough to "teach" math

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I sucked ass at Alegbra (freshman year in H.S.) and I've seen innumerable ways that it could be helpful. It's useful in making abstract decisions and thus why it 'hurts' the 85 IQ minorities, because they can't abstract. I'm tested at 104 IQ because potato-nigger, and I should probably look into taking a course even though I'm 30+ years.

Anyone who says it isn't needed isn't competitive in life.

>>134385816
Because we have to legally educate everyone equally. Tyrone gets to have access to the same resources as anyone else making high schools horrible and colleges have to play catch-up. Countries with tiered education systems aren't measuring the lower tracks and thus the u.s. is in the 40th ranking spots despite having some of the best elite universities.

>>134384494

>college is too expensive to study anything but what pertains to your major
>two books would give you more than a single course

Seems like you solved your own problem without realizing it.

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>>134386021
>driving a car that has a gas tank smaller than 15 gallons

confirmed cuck. be mad that you cant do simply math.

>>134383744
>huge tits
>broad shoulders
>tiny waist
who is this?

>>134386080

Goodness fuck you people are seriously, unironically, this fucking stupid aren't you? You seriously cannot comprehend what I am typing can you?

It is so creepy the lack of reading comprehension skills some people have.

I give up.

In the face of your overwhelming stupidity, I give up.

You're right.

YOU ARE ALL RIGHT.

I was wrong.

Algebra should be required for every single major.

>>134385986
the intermediate algebra class is a per-requisite to taking any other math courses where I am

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>>134385807
yeah unless your dad is a senator or something, going into a nonstem field is a one way ticket to, "sir, would you like fries with that?"

>>134385816
to be fair, it's one's own ambition in american schools, if your pop culture doesn't beat it out of you, i finished high school in europe and was ahead in both math and science. european schools filter out students into trade schools in high school while the usa they just let them drop out and be welfare rats.

>>134386104
>no but writing persuasively can not only be learned through grammar. literature is about the art of writing, which is again a basic skill people should have, and use on the daily.
4chan is enough to write persuasively. We argue all the time on here.

its because they teach algebra in a shit way
put up a vidya dev program and i guarantee you niggas will learn their algebra

>>134386295
calling you colleage a nigger wont go well.

Isn't algebra only a small step above basic addition and subtraction?

Isn't that something taught in like middle school? To like fucking 12 year olds?

>>134386266
Not an argument. Nice wall of text though.

If you are too stupid for college algebra, you are too stupid for college. You cannot and have not refuted this.

>>134386140
When I was in school middle school math was called "Pre-Algebra".

I agree that Algebra should be middle school level. I'm still angry at my parents for not sending me to private school, they could have afforded it.

>>134383744
the last thing a republic needs is a people educated enough to understand simple economics with "algebra", or to know how much to spend, invest and save while checking how to pay the least taxes as possible

just let the governmnt care about this numbers bullshit, if Bernie says they can find money to pay for everyone's desires without raising taxes, who are we to judge? they're experts after all

>x + 2 = 5x
>-5x + x + 2
>-4x + 2
>-4x = -2
>-4x/-4 = -2/-4
>x = 1/2
Of course this was completely unnecessary and could have been written as
>2 - 4x = 0
Still doesn't help me keep track of livestock, balance a budget or a get a big tittied ginger gf tho
>t. econ major

>>134386266
Algebra should be required for life. I refuse to believe that a rational human being can be dumb enough not to understand something like: X^2+4x+4= (x+2)(x+2).

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>there are idiots still thinking learning math is useful
>not just downloading an app.

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>>134386224
Hence (((common-core))). No facts, just nigger judgement to get an A. Literally explain your deficiency in solving a once-common problem (even though you don't get the answer correct) means you get an A for effort.

Not going to lie, I haven't taken any classes further than just pre-algebra and I'm suffering from it. Even took 'general math' as my College elective and tested-out of it.

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>>134386363


You are all right. I was wrong.

I've been literally arguing the whole time that college algebra is too difficult and shouldn't be required because of that difficulty. That has literally been my argument.

I see now that you were right.

Everyone should take college algebra.

It's funny how half the people on /pol/ think education is useless and college is joke, and the other half act like if you're not an electrical engineer you're retarded. In reality, it's all about how you apply yourself. No one path is the same. I work in STEM I make about 55k per year at my job which is solidly middle class for my area and I don't think I've ever had to use algebra for work. I also make about 70k running running adult websites and I've never had to use algebra.

>>134386432
Why all the extra steps?
X+2=5x
4x=2
X=.5

>>134386459
>someone on 4chan changing their view

i dont..... know how to feel about this.

>>134386439
>X^2+4x+4= (x+2)(x+2)
plotting lines is bullshit, but I'm pretty sure this is just a big fat intersecting X

>>134386553
>t. econ major

>>134386193
Well I have an industrial engineering degree and have taken everything up to differential equations. But I don't use anything more than middle school math for my work.

>>134386459
If college algebra is too difficult for you, then you aren't smart enough for college. Thanks for admitting your mistake.

>>134385270

His point is why do you need it to do that. Unless you're a fucking mongoloid you should be able to do it anyway. Hemmingway doesn't magically make you better able to persuade someone

You pretend like everyone who hasn't taken some literature course in university is unable to communicate

Make $85k/ year as a software engineer. I use algebra and discrete mathematics all the time in code. Also since when is school about teaching you what you need to know rather push the boundaries of your ability to learn new things? If high school and universities were about making you better at real life they would teach budgeting, financial strategies, smart shopping, taxes, and other shit everyone learns the hard way from being an adult. If "usefulness" is how we gauge what should stay in schools, why the fuck is no one bitching about the arts?

>>134385807
Been there done that. Not a bad way to go anon. Paid off my college debts in a few years. Then bought a Porsche.

>>134383963
I run a small software business with 4 employees and I use trigonometry every week.

I hope I triggernomer'd you.

Everyone should get a cursory understanding of maths, accounting, grammar (honestly I think teaching 1 classical language is the best thing, I self taught a sufficient level of Russian and Japanese to get around, but I would never have been able to do it without Latin, I learnt almost nothing in 5 years of French at school), history (especially classical history, destruction of empires, south sea bubble, basic things about our rights like magna carta, reasons for modern world tensions), science, programming.

Just up until age 14 and then go wild specialising in 10 topics. Age 14 4 topics, age 18 university if you want to, or actually start encouraging vocational apprenticeships for kids who won't benefit from 30k of debt and a piece of paper from a non-red brick uni in a non-stem field.

The fact is, education isn't great and it never will be because it's on the state. Up until age 11 you're going to have one teacher who teaches all subjects and at the higher ages won't even care or have a proper understanding of some of the topics (especially programming and foreign languages). Numeric literacy is correlated with high pay more than any other skill, so of course it's taught as a general rule. If you want your kids to have a more bespoke education, homeschool them.

>>134386655
>I demonstrated an ability to solve difficult problems
>Got hired
>Why should I have to do hard stuff in school

>>134383744
even if you don't use advanced math after high school, learning it helps you think logically and abstractly

>>134386553
this >>134386623
Also I teach at an urban public school so I'm required to literally show a step-by-step solution
[spoiler]students still manage to fuck up[/spoiler]

>>134386362
Niggers are really, really dumb.

>>134386445
>there are idiots who think they're smart after using this
Using an app doesn't mean you know what you're doing pajeet.

>>134384085
Fixing the education system is anti-semetic you sexist faggot

>>134386655
Maybe because you got a shit job mate, my housemate is a structural engineer and he uses shit like the direct stiffness method, tensor matrices, laplace transforms etc. on a daily/weekly basis. Just because you may have gone into a non specialised field of engineering for dumbasses doesn't mean the others do. Similarly I have a friend who's an aerospace engineer at roll's royce and I am willing to bet my salary that he uses more than middle school maths.

>>134383744
It is known that If you don't know to to find the Jordan canonical form of a matrix, you are an honorary nigger.

>>134383744
Bullshit! Niggers are retarded, but they can memorize numerical patterns and procedures and that's all any math system is. No intelligence required, this is how you do it, Copy and memorize.

>>134386782
Just because you use it doesn't mean that everyone else does or would need to. In fact, in terms of opportunity cost, it wouldn't be a worth while endeavor for me to learn trig. My time would be much better spent getting industry specific certifications.

>>134386888
that doesn't matter. it solve the problem. you don't need to know how to learn this outdated skill anymore.

>>134386446
From what I've seen of common core, it's the worst thing to happen to child education since removing algebra and long division from primary school. The libs are right that the world is becoming idiocracy, but they're too blind to see it's because of catering to niggers.

>>134386751
It's unorthodox but I feel like it'll pay off. I don't even need to be an attorney I can stay in my field and it's a good bonus to have . I'm still debating to go to for a tax llm after and change career paths because I mean tax is a economic resistant field to be in relative to my career path currently

>>134383744
Wait what you're supposed to know most of basic algebra by the time you're 13.

>>134384605

I can't remember how to do this properly. I'm pretty damn sure it's 0.5 just based on looking at it, but I don't know how to get there on paper. I'm officially a nigger. I recently realized I can't recall how to do long division, either.

That said: I make well over $200,000 USD per year lmao, suck it STEMpoors.

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>>134383744

>>134387052
>opportunity cost
>from state education
Lol, the most cost effective thing for the state to do is ram science, maths and economics down everyone's throats until they go and get well paid jobs instead of doing gender studies.

Again, if you want a bespoke education answering to your very specific sensibilities, either go get a private tutor, get homeschooled, or (what happens to most people), go specialise in your field in your actual degree. The taxpayer isn't going to pay for you to have magical one on one perfectly calculated lessons that decide your future for you and train you in only those disciplines.

>>134383744
>Algebra shouldn't be a required class because it's the #1 thing keeping non-White people from getting a job, says chancellor of California community college system

>Hire product of California school system
>can't math
>college education further devalued

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>3 /1/2 years worth of credits
>algebra is one of the last things I need
>failed 3 times
>A's in upper level bio courses but can't fucking pass algebra
>need it before I can take my last chem classes

I have some sort of mental block in my head when it comes to math I fucking swear, I can't comprehend it. I'm taking just it and 1 other class this fall so I can prepare myself to study for hours every day. I find it insane how others can just show up and make an A with 0 effort yet I have i'm preparing to study 4+ hours a day just to pass.

>>134383744

> If you think about all the underemployed or unemployed Americans in this country who cannot connect to a job in this economy — which is unforgiving of those students who don't have a credential — the biggest barrier for them is this algebra requirement. It's what has kept them from achieving a credential.

.. in fancy, and / or rich words - 'connect', 'this country', 'Americans', 'unforgiving', 'achieving'.

> employers want a credential

> blacks need that credential
> can't get it with algebra
> => no algebra

It's just lowering standards until minorities can achieve it, rendering the credential worthless.

And so the standard will ultimately rise again. To be dumbed down again.

>>134386104
I never thought I'd see the day when I'd think of 2013 as "better days"

>>134386208
I know a guy was started college at 32, started off in college algebra and we took ODE's together, he is a pretty smart guy and gets A's in all his classed despite that he partied throughout his youth and did a lot of stupid shit in his younger days. Its never too late to start.

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>>134386021

you're just mad you know the answer, although clearly you don't own a car ha

>>134387023
It takes at least 85 IQ to apply mathematical concepts and theories

>>134383744
Build anything with any material and you will use algebra figuring up the supplies you need for the project.

>>134387280
try khan academy

>>134386611
They're the same expression on each side. It's just a quadratic and it's factors.

>>134383963
you've used it, you're just too stupid to realize it
>gas all brainlets

>>134387374
>realize home depot has a no question asked return policy
>just buy a bunch of shit
>return everything you have left over

Done.

>>134384308
>Algebra
>In College
I took algebra in middle school, mate. You're not that smart.

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>>134383744
Storytime /pol/:
When I was a ChemE undergrad, in my junior year they shoe-horned about 30 of us into an Economics 101 class, so that we could fulfill some credit requirement. Now most of us had been on a pretty hard track course wise, and this class literally met after a 2 hour block on separation processes.
We were surrounded by absolute retards.
We get 4 weeks in, and the professor says, "Now in order to explain how the rates in supply and demand change, we need to get into a little bit of calculus". People around me are looking around, starting to freakout a bit.
All she needed them to do was to look at a curve and see when the slope was steep or flat. They couldn't do it.

>>134386445
cool trick, pleb. now pass quals...BAHAHAHAHAHA

>>134384678
You must live in the woods and are hinter gatherer.

>>134383744
yeah algerba wuz invented by fucking racists mayyyyn

>>134383744
You know what we should do?
Stop putting kids in school because some kids don't do well that will fix everything.

>>134386459
I respect you for admitting this.

>>134385354
How did you get a job with an IS degree? I graduated in april and have applied to 200 plus places and can't find shit. I should have done CS instead.

>>134387514
What if you spend all your money on all nails? How many trips are you going to make back and forth for the stuff your dumb ass didn't know you needed because you are a retard that cant algebra?

>>134383744
if you take algebra in college, you're probably at community college.
if you're at community college, you're probably a nigger or retarded.
if you cant pass algebra, you dont deserve to be in college, you should learn a trade of some sort.
debate me

>>134383963
>50k a year

>>134387569
I don't need to be a physicist. I can just be a camwhore and make more money. Or a drug dealer.

I can even just start my own gardening business and make more money than being a wagecuck.

>>134387055
>outdated skill
How do you think the program was made? This is why Indian "software engineers" just paste stack overflows over and over and can't patch a program for shit.

>>134387533
Yeah I had pre-algebra in 7th grade and Algebra in 8th.

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>>134387472
>implying it doesn't also serve as an implicit function
I skated through algebra, algebra II, geometry and trig, but fucking linear equations drove me insane, it was my blind spot. Graphing them just added shit on top of a shit pile

>>134387130
At least we give ourselves options. If I were under 35 I would sign up for ICE .Decent career path. Especially if you are ex military.

>>134387533
Linear Algebra bro.

Didnt Al Sharpton say Nogs invented Algebra because dey wuz kangz?

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>>134383744
>get rid of algebra because non whites are too stupid to learn it?
OH COME ON is he for real. Does the dumbass even realize how dumb this makes niggers, south americans and others look?
>hey we're too stupid to do algebra so please remove the requirement so nobody sees how stupid we are as a group of people

If you can't pass algebra you don't belong in western civilization. PERIOD, i don't care if you might not use it in whatever job you turn out to have.

I have a pretty good idea why niggers can't pass it, go read pic related, it's a really good read. But this guy seems to include other non whites in it aswell so i can only assume they have similar problems.

Either way i don't care how dumb you are it should be possible for you through by trial and error and over time to learn algebra regardless how long it takes.

>>134383963
Educations are more than just learning one skill, and business majors (of past decades at least) chronically lack the ability to even write a coherent email. Being able to write up a clear, concise summary of your work is pretty crucial and people learn these skills in literary classes. They don't have to be obscure literary classes, and depending on the school you might have the option to focus on professional linguistic skills.

>>134386967
I'm sure they do use high level math I never said it is worthless to learn. I do mostly lean manufacturing and efficiency improvement projects so statistical software is usually all I need. I also have to deal with/baby sit machine operators (spics) daily which is the most difficult part.

>>134383744
How can you be useful in any workforce without algebra? It's the foundation of math, the barest of essentials, 2 + 2 = x, a litmus test for retardation, a skill set known since the dawn of man. Nah we don't need that anymore.

>>134385210
You're full of it. If my pass rate floats above 45%, I will lose my job.

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>>134385119
Nice

This is just another way to dumb down everyone to black peoples IQ levels. Just like common core.

>>134387514
>this is clearly a nigger like the ones who owned my house before me pouring an entire yard of concrete over the garage slab when extending it instead of what was needing making a shitty 2 inch protrusion over half the garage.

It would take you a month to build what a person with the skills could in a day just because you'll be running back to the store every 10 minutes because you're a stupid nigger.

>>134383963
Math trains the logical brain mate. Simply doing maths, even if it's not applied in practical ways helps mould the mind into logical thinking paths.

>>134384085
>If you're a STEM major, you shouldn't take literature. If you're not a STEM major, you shouldn't take algebra. You will NEVER use it.

Wrong. At the highest level, STEM is an art. At the highest level, CS is an art. At the highest level, solving math problems is an art.

On the flip side, taking science courses teaches problem solving for non-STEM students.

>>134385119
k=black cock

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>ITT A bunch of people who haven't done an algebra problem in 10+ years complaining about people not being forced to take algebra

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>>134386163
Hi Friend! I come here because I'm smart and I'm convinced many of you are smart (I've seen the screen grabs from IQ test sites). I just want to mention that I have a double major in Applied Math and Computer Science, and while a LOT of coding is codemonkey string manipulation, most interview questions revolve around hash maps and heaps/priority queues, there are some very cool problems I just got my head around. One is collision detection. Yeah, Unity has that, but now I know why they have pill shapes and such. It's called GJK Intersection tests and it's not only in games, it keeps robots from colliding with each other and is a big part of autonomous vehicles. So shut the fuck up with your simple algebra talk, complex math is very useful, and doing it wrong can get ppl killed.

Also algebra is really Al Jebra, an arabic phrase. We should call it Amerimath just to push in Arabia's shit.

>>134383963
>50k a year
That's fuck all mate.

>>134387891
I had a massive problem with that too. I wonder if it was the way they taught it. Everything else was a breeze.

>>134384678
Hey nigger your car gets 25 miles per gallon and you have 3.25 gallons left before you absolutely must refuel, how far can you go?
You stupid nigger.

>>134387230
Name?

>>134387891
They're the same thing. It doesn't make intersecting lines. It's the same as writing 2=2.

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>>134388273
Agreed. Breadth of knowledge is fucking important. If more STEMies actually paid attention in their humanities courses, they'd understand the value; same for vice versa.

>>134384308
How it's easy as fuck. We started algebra in the 8th grade at my school. The few nigs in my grade were behind with the "fundamentals" kids. I never thought much of it I just know that my maths and sciences never had minority students.

>>134387710

If you actually read through my posts, you'll see that I said:

>Algebra isn't useful for many majors and shouldn't be required

which was a proposition that is completely beyond intelligibility for the average STEM major on here, so they interpreted me as saying: algebra is too difficult; algebra is worthless, etc.

So, I just made that post, because I was tired of responding to the hoard of imbeciles who couldn't understand the point I was making, anyway.

>>134383744
FUCKING kek

>yfw you have believed your whole life that americans had a decent educational system.
>yfw you find out they don't start algebra before college.

I dunno what to say really. We start that shit at age 13 over here and it's part of mandatory math in high school.

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>>134388373
>Says 15 year old who thinks his future STEM degree will = 100k+

God you Gen Z'ers are gonna get cockslapped by capitalism, and part of me is looking forward to it.

>Salaries for STEM jobs in decline
http://www.cio.com/article/2915869/careers-staffing/salaries-for-stem-jobs-in-decline.html

desu passing calculus should be a requirement for a hs diploma

>>134388373
Then why do we pay police officers, firemen, nurses, and teachers that wage when public workers are clearly overpaid for what they do.

Some people don't understand the worth of education, even the subjects I didn't continue I still value. I studied:

>Maths
Use literally every day
>Stats
Used in my degree and enables me to pitch for investment a lot better (investors love a sexy matlab graph that you just banged up with projections). Probability is lumped in with stats even though it's pure maths, but probability is extremely useful and I probably use monthly. Understanding of things like normal distributions, statistical significance, chauvenet's criterion etc. are very useful in arguments/debates
>French
Okay I rarely fucking use this one to be fair
>Latin & Greek
Insanely fucking useful for learning grammar, self teaching languages, understanding etmology, and reading tattoos lol. Also, having a latin dictionary is good for naming shit.
>Economics
Extremely useful info for running a business. I did physics at uni but I watched harvard courses on economics later while programming.
>IT
This was taught badly when I was young because I grew up on computers and the teachers didn't, but programming lessons would've been appreciated.
>History
Extremely interesting for modern culture and politics, and just fun. Especially ancient history.
>Tech
I don't use this because I don't own most of the equipment we used but I appreciate I might use some of it for DIY stuff when I'm older.
>Physics/Chem/Bio
Did a degree in Physics, Chem basically covered all of thermo, I went into a tangential field but I use my physics still, very occasionally chem. Bio is useful for arguments sometimes. Physics as well comes with a lot of philosophy.
>Religion
If you have a better understanding of someone's religion than they do themselves you can easily shut them up when they try to impose dumb shit.
>English Lit & Lang
Arguably language is more important, but lit still gave a bit of culture. Lang is even useful in writing scientific papers.
>Geography
Probably the one I use least but I learnt occasionally useful things

>>134387775
You won't garden shit running back to the store for returns 10 times a day because your dumb ass can't figure out what volume of dirt you need.

>>134388340
Planning for a trip?

If your car gets 20mpg and you have to travel 1000 miles, and gas is $3.00 a gallon, and it takes 10 minutes to fill the car up, and your average speed is 70mph, and you leave at 10am, how long will it take you to make it to your destination, how much money and how many stops will you make for gas?

We use algebra everyday, you faggots just don't know what algebra is.

>>134388423
>not calculating stop signs, air conditioning, the bad traffic, the detours, the road condition, your under inflated tires, acceleration, etc.

Useless subject.

>>134384085
>On a board that professes to want to save Western civilization.
>Hates classical education

>>134386813
This happened the other day, teacher skipped a step in solving for y, which is a step that's been used in almost every chapter for the past 5 weeks and 2/3 of the class panicked. She was like you're supposed to know this by now. Last chapter was solving for y to get your slope and y-intercept to graph and the class was bewildered that I got a 100%, they were passing my test around and everything.

I've been out of school for 12 years so I placed a bit low on the placement test, the only people having trouble keeping up are black and this one bartender who is like 50.

Not even to point and laugh and say, "haha niggers," but it is pretty shocking.

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>>134388471
Hmmmm...

>>134388674

Don't forget to stop and smell the flowers man.

>>134387775
camwhoring is a skill...and good luck being a drug dealer or owning a gardening business without math. to be fair, none of that math is high enough for a physicist anyway, that's just high school shit your app is cheating you out of learning lol. no worries, just job security for the rest of us.

>>134386432
That's because economics is an art, not a science.

>>134386459
You're a big person, anon.

Critical reflection and correcting errors will take your further in life than algebra.

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>>134383744
>niggerscantintoalgebra.jpg
HAHAHAHAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAA

>>134388569
Most do start it before college, I started in 7th grade(12-13 years old). Only idiots are taking it in community college(ie retard school).

>>134388703
>there's fucking dirt everywhere when you step outside
>thinking you need to buy fucking dirt.

>>134387055
This is why you won't ever get a good job and will always get entry level pajeet shit.

>>134388621
I'm a born Englishman in America on an O-1 lad, I expect I've done more in my life at the age of 26 than any commie mong like yourself ever will.

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>>134383744
>stop teaching niggers math
>wonder why niggers consistently score lower on standardized tests than whites, cant get jobs ,and get involved in crime

>>134388800
that's why i just need to vote for Bernie and get a UBI and UHC

You're the cuck that's going to be paying for me.

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>>134387280
So you're dumb. Just accept it.

>>134388569
I wonder if educational tourism will be an answer to the absurd tuition universities charge in the USA, much like medical tourism is. With international ratings organizations and support structures to scale properly. Please train more teachers, Norway.

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>>134387548
ha this story cracks me up. i used to tutor eng majors in grad school they shit their pants didn't realize other majors had to have calc and diff eq...sadly econ 101 is a required class for business majors, most of whom should be wearing padded helmets and have a nurse escort, maybe 1 or 2 in the whole week's schedule of 101 classes actually becomes an economist.

>>134383744
Niggers can't find X like they can't find their fathers.

>>134388423
I carjack you then run your car into a tree following a high speed chase. Thanks for that full tank.

>>134383963
>should just get rid of it altogether. I have never used any math in my life and i make 50k a year. I never needed to find X anytime in my life.
Really? So if the government says they will be taking 43% of your income in taxes, how will you determine that quantity without algebra? Or will you just trust them and assume they are taking what they said they are taking?

You're a fucking retard.

>>134388786
I travel a lot to trade shows for work so I get to see the world a lot, go to a lot of parties at events etc - that is basically my social life other than my gf, since you see the same people at all these things, but I'm doing my dream job and have enough free time to sit around shitposting on 4chan at 5am since I make my own hours, so.. whatever. I don't mind working hard when I essentially get to go on like 5-8 free holidays a year on the business.

>>134388916
We need to start some memes in algebraic equations so they cant understand it. Like cursive.

>>134384452
>basic persuasion skills via writing is a basic necessity for any sort of higher education.
If you need college to teach you how to write, then you're retarded.

>>134384732
>you dont need basic math, just know how to add numbers
Is this some sort of new shilling strategy? You relaly think coding is going to stay this simple in the dawning age of demi-AI and all the deep learning algorithms?

>>134383744
Did anyone else notice that the same libtards that support doing away with algebra in college are the ones who come to brag that Hillary voters are "more educated"?

>>134383744
OMFG PLEASE GET RID OF ALGEBRA AS A FUCKING REQUIRMENT

>>134383744
if school doesnt even teach algebra, hen what is the fucking point of even going to school?

>>134389324
When they use the term 'educated' they are referring to majors like sociology, gender studies, and applied faggotry.

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>>134389085
yep, trade one plantation for another. surely the winner is you.

>>134384760
What do you consider to be a pretty solid salary? Not rich, but not struggling. Just solid and comfortable. I'm sure it depends on the state and even city, but a rough estimate would be appreciated. I've been asking people that today.

>>134385986
>Algebra is a high school subject.
This is Commiefornia we are talking about. Most of the high schools don't ever get around to teaching students algebra. We're lucky if they come out having learned basic arithmetic.

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>>134386445
>>134387775
>>134388751
>>134388933
>>134387055
>>134389085
>who needs math, download an app
>i'll just be a camwhore or a drugdealer, better than a wagecuck
>that's why i just need to vote for Bernie and get a UBI and UHC
>You're the cuck that's going to be paying for me.
Found the nigger and why UBI should never be allowed.

I bet you this liberal doesn't even know they called black people stupid. Mental disorders all.

>>134386021
>And Apps like this exist anyways.
You are one stupid motherfucker. "I'll let my smart phone think for me." Kill yourself.

>>134383963
I made 43k a year doing pizza delivery. Don't brag about being barely above min wage.

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>>134383744
Usually it's only the dumbfucks that suck at the placement math test that are required to take Retard Math 101. Usually you start with Trig or something, then get put into calculus, if your degree is worth a shit.

>>134389336
>Find X
>If day of the rope happens X and X is 30 days from your fathers birthday, when will you be hanged?

>>134385119
K=0

>>134384429

Top Kek

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Why are people taking algebra in college?

in the US is the “standard level math student” takes Algebra 1, in grade 9 (freshman year), Geometry, in 10th grade (sophomore year), and Algebra 2, in grade 11 (junior year). Some US schools use “integrated math” where geoetry is not a separate course, but is instead integrated across 3 years of math, in this way Algebra 1, Geometry, and Algebra2, become integrated math 1, Integrated math2, and Integrated math3.

The drawback to both of these schedules is that it means you only make it to Pre-Calculus by grade 12, (senior year). However many school districts will allow the “advanced math students” to take Algebra 1 in Junior high/Middle School, often as early as 7th grade. In this way high school students in grades 11 and 12 (juniors and seniors) can take Calculus in high school.

Although there has been a trend in many US school districts similar to what you describe. Where rather than skipping the entire coursework known as 7th and 8th grade math, advanced students do both 7th and 8th grade math in 7th grade and move into Algebra 1 in 8th grade, this allows students to get to Calculus in their 12 grade (senior year) without any doubling up on math classes.

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>>134386021
Nigger I drive a Versa note and that thing is a fucking micro-machine with a 10 gallon tank.
Do you just have a bike with a 2 stroke engine?

>>134389671
Teachers get paid 50k. They're eitehr underpaid for knowing all their math to teach people, or teachers are overpaid because they have useless jobs.

Pick one.

>>134388785
You graphed y=the previous equation. The original equation had only x and thus only one axis. This is why using tools you don't understand like>>134387775 this idiot makes us all worse off. Think about it guy, if they're literally the same expression (think if it was 2^2 = 4), how would it ever satisfy conditions making perpendicular lines? The number of variables is the number of axes needed to graph something

>>134389336
>OMFG PLEASE GET RID OF ALGEBRA AS A FUCKING REQUIRMENT
Did it ever occur to you that algebra isn't too hard; you're just too stupid?

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>>134383963
makes 4,000$ above defacto 5th quintile in most states.
Allow me to put it in terms you can understand, your life is a D-

Maybe if you had used some math you'd be able to figure that shit out on your own.

>>134388784
I can't believe algebra is being taught on universities these days. I'm in my mid 30s, and the lowest class we had on campus was calc 101. By the 2nd week, you were solving integrals.

>>134388933
You are nigger, clearly.

>>134389852
1. Primary school teachers probably don't know A Level maths.
2. Secondary school teachers who don't teach maths probably don't know A Level maths.
3. Secondary school teachers who teach A Level maths generally either really love teaching and are willing to take the paycut for the experience of teaching, or they weren't that good at advanced degree level maths enough to go on to get a good job, but were good enough to complete a degree, and therefore are good enough to teach A Level.

I don't know what you think you're getting at here. They're also mostly paid by the state unless they're in a private school, and anyone paid by the state gets gypped.

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>>134383744
>be me
>teach college physics
>every semester I have 300+ non-majors students taking the algebra-based course for their science credit and 200+ engineering students taking the calc-based course
>three-fourths of these students take no high school physics, pre-calc, or trig
>as many as half of the non-majors took remedial math courses and are coming into the class with almost no algebra or geometry
>calc-based course has a WDF rate of 40%, algebra course is 50-60%
>tfw every semester 90% of my office hours is spent explaining 9th grade algebra to people who intend to become this country's future doctors, engineers, and architects
>tfw these people are being set up for failure and there's nothing I can do for them
>tfw liberals now want to cut what little math the schools bother to require because MATH IS RACIST YO

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>>134389189
I mean, maybe we weren't the most model Engineering class. We celebrated the end of finals senior year with a beer olympics that got the cops called. Being blackout with your 60 closest jackasses in a field is an experience man.
>pic related: UK alum

>>134389316
99% of programming is still easy basic shit that doesn't require much theoretical knowledge.

u know how important algebra is? Its like magic

>>134390132
They have to pass A level maths to get their credentials.

I'm just saying you don't need advanced math because if you did these teachers would be getting paid more. They're overpaid.

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Mathematics is the Study of Relationships

If you don't understand relationships in general, Any conclusion you arrive at is suspect by definition. You are the broken clock.

>>134388785
you wrote a capital X and a lower case x elsewhere so it thinks those are two different variables, look at the fucking labels on your axes lol. sigh.

>>134388785
>>134389855
Look how it's only satisfied at one point, 0. All that graph shows is the expressions are equal, but we knew that already.

>>134389938
The fuck? The average salary is 50k. That's directly in the middle. how the hell is it 2 standard deviations away when it's right in the middle?

Your stats interpretation is poor.

>>134385370
>having to jew your way up the corporate ladder through thesaurus-tier conversations
>not letting your work do the talking

>>134390144
>tfw every semester 90% of my office hours is spent explaining 9th grade algebra to people who intend to become this country's future doctors, engineers, and architects
Well, thats why engineers just plug and chug lol. . Real physicists are taking Physics courses designed for Physics majors. Same with engineers. Are you teaching a general intro physics course for all STEMs?

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>>134387548
Another story time form me.
>be Physics and Math major
>90% male rofl
>did up to second year chemistry
>class is about 50/50 male to female
>Chemistry professor is teaching thermodynamics
>Awesome! I have already done statistical thermodynamic and the more general thermodynamics in second year physics
>The thermodynamics in Chemistry is dumbed down, ie, not too much equations, and, all in all, is very qualitative.
>Everybody in my chemistry class bitch and moan about.
>mfw people moaning are all girls.

>>134384876
LOL

>>134383963
I use it in my line of work along with other problem solving skills and make 90k as a 26 year old.

>>134384276
>Specialization is for ants.

Quoting Heinlein is for ants.

When your mother gets sick, go take her to a plumber, you dumb fucking piece of goddamned trash.

Specialization is for specialists. Dumb fuck.

>>134384308
This film image you psted is funy

>>134383744

In Washington we now let kids graduate without passing biology.

>>134383744
Anybody that does not understand algebra needs to be deported. Calculus should be a minimum requirement for high school graduation.

>>134390157
I miss lextown :(

>>134388770
>classical education
>existing in modern universities

>>134383744
Fucking hell. Some autistic fuck may never use math in his life but fuck me if I don't live and die by numbers. Algebra should be 8th grade level shit. You should be doing calculus by the time you leave high school. Literally this is why America is falling behind in math.

>>134390254
Maybe if you learnt maths you would know what an average is. Just because the average salary for someone who has a maths degree is higher in general, doesn't mean every maths related job is highly paid, especially one paid by the state.

Imagine if they paid maths teachers more than french teachers. Just picture the amount of reeeeeee-ing that would come from the resultant paygap at a state level. They go "whoop, this is a teaching job, teaching jobs earn exactly $X per annum, welcome to state jobs". If they went and used their maths to get a petroleum engineering degree they would be paid significantly more. They did not make those life decisions. Makes no difference to the average.

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>>134383963
>>134383744
>>134384308
X gon give it to ya just took on a whole new meaning in my mind

>>134390397
All the engineers and physics undergrads take the calc-based course and it's a perfectly decent course. The material is all thoroughly covered, each section builds off the previous one very naturally. The actual physics students usually do very well in the course.

>>134390571
That's stupid. Very few people actually use calculus and you forget everything except the absolutes basics pretty fast.

>>134390603
>Algebra should be 8th grade level shit.
It is.

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>>134390578
I moved to Boulder, and I still can't find a brewery as good as Country Boy.
>No 'Infinite Sadness'
>No 'Sexual Dracula'
pic related

>>134383963
When you go to your payday lender with your pay stub what percent of your paycheck do you get in advance?
>Y = the small amount you get paid
>Z = gibmedat now
>X = the percent they keep (expressed as a decimal)
>Y(X) = Y - Z
Solve for X to find out how much you're getting Jewed.

>>134389561
wtf anon where is this from? sauce?

>>134386163
CS is math y'idyit

>>134384678
Its about finding out how to solve a problem in life with very limited information. It is the way to OBTAIN your missing piece of the puzzle when you have half of something and the answer. Sometimes you dont need the answer because you already have it and its a part of the equation that your after. This is useful in any regard in life just uses number to teach it to you. Youre dumb and dsmissive

>>134388569
It's common core shit to pass niggers. Most white people get to at least pre calc.

>>134385241
Does he play football? I know players that had people take tests for them.

>>134390386
no my friend. Sorry. you have to discount Non-income earners. zeroes and near zeroes absolutely destroy averages.

If you discount people using below say 2% of their capacity, you're knocking out large swaths.

Also, I fudge up a great deal b/c PurchasingPowerParity and lifetime earnings. Today 46k is about the minimum gainful employment to support a family.

Biased sure, Statistically inaccurate, NOPE.

>>134384452
>It was a dark, humid night when I discovered X. Dewdrops collected on in the flower garden, the moon reflected gently in each velvet petal.
Yea, i can see why studying literature is so crucial to STEM majors.

>>134391034
>what are scientific journals

>>134388569
>M. Bison laugh
We start that shit in primary school boyee, I thought scandinavians were supposed to have good educations.

>>134383963
50k a year.....? If you don't see a problem in that alone I don't think you'll be able to understand the issue at hand here. 8/10 for making me reply. (You)

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>>134390812
>tfw
I'm pretty sure I was just trolled.

>>134384678
Everyone laugh at the nigger.

>>134388517
Algebra is useful for all areas, I use it in a damn coffee shop for christ sake.

>>134391144
See this
>>134391151

>>134391024
then you're going to also have to eliminate the outliers on the other side.

Per Capita income is only 26000. which is a more accurate representation of actual wage earners.

And the more important stat is cost of living. In San Francisco, earning 100k doesn't allow you to support a family. But you can support 4 families in Houston.

>>134383744
If you can't do algebra, you're a brainlet who doesn't deserve a college degree.