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Why are young men unable to get their lives together nowadays?

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Why are young men unable to get their lives together nowadays? So many men are dropping out an/or becoming NEETs instead of becoming fully functional adults and getting married and raising children. You can make all the excuses you want but the fault lies with men not women or refugees or any other excuse. What is the excuse for men to throw away civilization like this?
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no hope for the future?
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because even those of us with jobs don't normally have enough money to live properly. Financially responsible people cant afford children and financially irresponsible people get benefits and have 6 children by the age of 30.
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>>134333702
A lot of them can't get jobs. Or it would be pointless to take the jobs they could get.
The way things are, a lot of young men effectively have no future and it's largely due to economics.
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>>134334076
/thread
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whats the fucking point?

the world can burn for all i care
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>>134333702
im gonna assume this post wasn't written by a true /pol/ poster. every time i see one of these bait posts it strengthens my hatred for NEET leeches and leads to further self improvement
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Men created this mess and the only way to fix it is to start over, so now we must allow it to collapse, and it will without us. THEY WILL BEG US TO RETURN TO THE WAY IT ONCE WAS!
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Because men are higher in disagreeableness and see a shit future in-store for them. For them playing video games and checking out of society is preferable to being s wage slave and marrying some overweight women, if they can even obtain an overweight woman.
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>>134334564
>For them playing video games and checking out of society is preferable to being s wage slave and marrying some overweight women, if they can even obtain an overweight woman
ahyup
t. manlet who don't even care no more
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>>134333702
The minimum wage pre-Jew (early 1960s) in silver coins would be worth $19 today. Tells you everything about our Soylent 'republic' and its Federal 'reserve'.
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>>134334564
Do men not having any self-awareness anymore? You'd rather rot away and spend your life in a video game instead of just going out, getting a job and finding a wife who loves you? Also have you wondered maybe just maybe it's the video games and lack of career prospects that turn women off?
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>>134334564
>>134334785
>Because men are higher in disagreeableness and see a shit future in-store for them. For them playing video games and checking out of society is preferable to being s wage slave and marrying some overweight women, if they can even obtain an overweight woman.
>t. manlet who don't even care no more

getting too real for me here
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Society is arguably worse than its ever been (house costs, wages vs cost of living, dating prospects) whereas video games have never been better.

Do you think men would have volunteered for world war 2 if they could have sat back and played witcher 3?
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>>134334307
Dude.. what's wrong with you? Don't you care for your civilization, your race or hell your species? Why the defeatist pessimistic attitude?
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>>134333702

Lack of traditional purpose due to techology, nothing to explore, nothing to create forbidden to persue manly traits, men are becoming femenised, government is daddy now and we're all its bitches
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>>134333702

>on 10 different types of welfare
>functioning

Give me a break. White millenials have the most pressure on them out of any generation in the past 100 years.

We have to

>Compete with third world labor driving down wages
>Immigration driving property and rent prices through the roof
>College is more expensive than ever and is being subsidized for shitskins
>Affirmative action working against white men
>No entry level jobs that will lead to a wage capable of sustaining a family

B-but it's all the fault of whitey right? Give me a break. People like you are the reason why there is about to be a race war
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If you don't see how the Jews are causing all this you need to lurk more. Have you lurked for two years before posting like you're supposed to?
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>>134334970

What's the point of working a shit job just to be shit on by society, have much of your money taken away by a government that hates you and just gives it to unemployed blacks and arabs, and be scorned at by women?

White men, in my opinion have two options - either be highly successful and get a real job like a Doctor, Engineer, respected trade, or lawyer OR GTFO out of society and help the rest of us burn it to the fucking ground.
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>>134333702
>be lazy
>receive neetbux
>waste life on anime, vidya, porn, and drugs
>be depressed
>die
or
>work ass off for better life
>money confiscated and given to shitskins
>get cucked by some whore
>spend all your time working for someone else to take what you earned
>still be depressed
>die anyway
It's a tough choice.
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>>134335181
Yes because men were different back then. Older men seem to still to have '''it''' as well but from my experience with dating millennials it seems they are perpetual teenagers. They've never seem to break out of that phase. It's really concerning because I just wonder what will happen to our civilization if things continue like this. We must save men.
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>>134333702
>Now takes two people working full time to afford a house
>Childcare costs astronomical
>Shit or stagnant wages
>Divorce courts favour women, so even if you do marry, pray she doesn't take you to court
>Cost:Benefit analysis not worth doing the dating game, waste of time and money, emotional waste
>Female empowerment, any attempt at advance is seen as creepy or misogynistic
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>>134335295
I never brought up race. All men are doing badly. All!
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>>134334970
>instead of just going out, getting a job and finding a wife who loves you?
Jesus fuck, do you realize how retarded this is?
A lot of men have no such prospects. Politicians downplay it as laziness or choice, but they know very well the problem is much worse than that.
The jobs that are available for many won't be enough to get you out of poverty. They'll just make you exhausted and depressed. And you'll have zero job security and constantly have to adapt to more competition from immigration and globalization. It won't raise your status/wealth enough to attract w wife.
Society is really split into two classes now. Those with good enough jobs to live even semi-decently, and those without.
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>>134335231

Caring for your race means not working a dead-end job to be miserable and finance unemployed niggers and arabs.

Caring for your race means either being highly successful OR becoming a NEET and using your spare time to support the WN movement.

We can check back into society once it respects us again, and once the fucking niggers go back or get Holocausted.
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>>134334970
Jesus what a small minded stupid cunt, i know this is going to blow your mind but people have different ideas of what they consider an enjoyable life an no your version doesn't have authority over anyone elses dick head.
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>>134333803
yep
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Because they know that the woman they end up marrying will eventually teach their kids to hate daddy and take half of his shit and leave him in financial ruin and possibly homeless

Thats why men dont get married anymore
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>>134335488
That's because "it" was worth it but "it" isn't anymore.
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>>134333702
Because I'm not good no to willingly sell myself into marriage slavery. Fuck your society, I'll enjoy watching it burn
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>>134334806
OK I lied, $14.73 (silver content of 5 quarters, the minimum wage back then).

Reverse black liberation, women lib, gay lib, Hart-Cellar, and get your $15 minimum wage out of high school. That's living.
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>>134333702
Because men are inferior to women when they can't use violence to control them. Women read books on their off-time; men watch porn and play video games, two activities that not only have zero benefit (unlike reading), but are also harmful. If you play video games, you are a piece of shit. That's really all there is to it.

You think Batman would play video games or watch porn? Of course not. He would spend his off-time improving himself.

The age of men is over.
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>>134333702

Why do we have this thread 10 times a day? What are (((they))) trying to push this time?

>society is ruined and you're surrounded by millions of shitskins that want you dead
>why do white males opt out of society?

It's the kikes. It's always the kikes.
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>>134334534

Greed and corruption has destroyed us.
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>>134336200
>Women read books on their off-time
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>>134335488
Different because they played outdoors, didn't have dank videogames to addle their bodies and minds, they had real families and a model to aspire to in later life.

Boys / men have none of that today. Over worked low test father going bald and getting fat. Stressed overweight mother trying to manage the house and work a job. Neither parent has the energy to talk to their children and get to know them. Just tap out in front of the TV every evening whilst the kids play videogames.
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>>134335447
Or.. you're just thinking WAY too negative? Why do you assume you will be divorced or that your wife will cheat on you? Men are more likely to cheat. Why don't you picture yourself having a wholesome long lasting marriage instead? And you can always start your own business or become a contractor.

>>134335811
You can try and convince yourself otherwise but men were made to become fathers and be skilled producers. You need to start a family, reproduce and provide for that family so you can create the next generation of men. This is what you were made for. You weren't made for playing video games all day and wasting your seed on a napkin.
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>>134336200
Yaaaaassss
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>>134333702
what the fuck reason do I have to succeed?

im a turbo manlet and everyone hates straight men nowadays anyway
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>>134335889
Oh enough with this crap. You're being brainwashed to hate all women so you never develop the trust to enter into a long-term relationship. You talk about Jewish brainwashing and subversion? This is it right there.
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>>134335593

You're claiming that it has nothing to do with refugees or immigration when that's clearly the crux of the issue.
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>>134333702
>One post by this ID
Good one fucking retards.
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I want a career where I rarely have to speak with people but I'm not a genius

What do I do
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>>134333702
there are 7.5 billion people in the world

some people becoming neets are going to stop over population


you should be taking then
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>>134333702
games are more fun.
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>>134333702
Life has been too easy. Mummy and daddy coddled them from the moment they were born, combine that with a general softening of society as a whole, and there you go.
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>>134336200
>Women read books on their off-time
Bargain books in the supermarket don't count.
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>>134333702
Because I can't find a worthwhile woman to marry and call my wife - simple as that. Australian women are fucking horrific - loose and degenerate like a British woman; fat, lazy, entitled, and useless like an American woman.
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>>134336500
You need to succeed in order to attract a mate in order to start a family in order to have children in order to continue civilization, the white race and the human species.

It's really not that difficult. You were made to have a family. This is your purpose.
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>>134336508
lol fuck off, seen it with my own two eyes when mommy didnt like daddy anymore and got the house and the kids and child support
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>>134336928
This is bull crap and you know it. The idea that every women is a whore getting dicked by a hundred guys every weekend is laughably false. Both men and women are having less sex. Also you talk about all the women sleeping around but never talk who they are sleeping with.. oh yer.. it's guys. Monogamy works both ways.
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>>134336335
Women are supposed to take care of the house, children and husband and don't leave or cuck him when better option shows up. We have lots of responsibilities without any rewards. Work? PoCs and women will forcefully replace you. Marry? You most likely will have to do with used goods. Want stay at home wife? Enjoy not being able to afford important things, unless you have excellent job. Have a family? Let's hope you're good enough so that your wife won't stab you in the back.
And it's ignoring that society shits on men in general. Why care? You don't want us.
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>>134335231
The war was decided 80 years ago.
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>>134336200
>implying
You're mistaken, the age of the biocunt is at its end. Your replacements are almost here
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>>134335231
>lets die for people who shunned you, made you an outcast, destroyed your hope, robbed you, backstabbed you, forced you into a shitty lifestyle while working under Mr Noseberg.
You know Chad is impatient and Stacy wants to fuck, José and Jamal needs their college, and lets not forget Tyrone's mom and siblings, who all live on of your money.

Do I look like charity to you? A fucking retard? You ask for help, yet when I needed it you were nowhere, and you ask for help? It's a miracle your flesh and skin is still on your face.
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>>134337198
I agree with you.
T. Happily married with 1 kid so far.
I though the whole shtick about kids changing you for the better was just a meme, but I assure you lads, it isn't.
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>>134336508
Hi shlomo the family court lawyer
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>>134333702
Im a wizard.

The only incentive for me would be women, but sisnce I dont have ( and will probably never have one) then I should I bother in working hard?

As long as I can do what I enjoy and travel from time to time, Im OK.
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>>134336200
>Batman

Hahahahhahahahahahshshahwhwhwhwhwhwhahwhwhwhahshahahahahahahaahahaha GTFO neckbeard
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Neckbeards gonna neckbeard.
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>>134333702
I dunno but it is an excellent motivation to get in there and pick up the slack. At least for me it is.
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>>134334076
This. How the fuck am I supposed to have a gf and a kid if my car breaking down financially ruins me
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>>134333702

>why don't young men have jobs
>it must be a collective failure on their part and have nothing to do with economics

Literal idealism, OP. Material factors explain everything as usual; people can't take jobs that don't exist.
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>>134333702
This, yo.
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the cake is a lie
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>>134333702
>>134338209
>> This, yo.

Ugg. Forgot image.
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>>134338008
Why don't you lower your standards then? Why must you date above your standards? I know women who've dated short guys.. ugly guys.. poor guys.. you really have no body to blame but yourself for not finding a woman. There's a woman out there who wants you right now but you wouldn't want her because she doesn't fit your so called standards. If you want to be lonely.. that's on you.

Also the idea that women are all shallow is also laughably false. Some men are shallow. Some women are shallow. Most are not. It's the simple truth. Stop falling for lies.
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>>134334307

Precisely. It is why I voted for Bernie Sanders.
I want the government to take care of me in this life using taxpayer money and national debt. After I'm dead, I could care less what happens to posterity. A fucking asteroid could strike them and I would not give a single fuck.
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>>134338008
Well you have plenty of women (male) to choose from.
Every single women who's not in a relationship in their 20's has some serious issues. Believe me, they are more fucked up in the head than I'm, and I'm a warmonger, who takes pleasure from other's misfortune.
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>>134333702
I have severe depression. I taught myself full stack web development, worked for almost four years developing someone else's product, and now I subsist and contemplate suicide. I have no drive to do anything or accomplish anything.
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>>134338438
Can you spot removal of the gold standard?
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>>134333803
This
I walked in to a job interview today and the interviewer was a fat sjw with colored hair that was unimpressed by all my medals and achievements

We live in a society where "oppression points" matters more than skill desu senpai
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>>134338478
Im not even trying anon.
I have no standards t.b.h. Tho off course I will not fuck an 45 yo woman or a landwhile.

Still, Im not even going outside by now. Just doing the usual stuff. Also working out to improve my health (not fat by the way, just scrawny).

>>134338546
I think Im comming to terms that I may be ending old and all alone.

Right now I have my family and friends, but they will not be around forever, I know.

But them again, who cares.
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>>134338578
Because you need a wife and children. That will give you purpose. Without this, men are basically dead.
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>>134338790
Make family viable again
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>>134334076
>>134338195
And I bet you're the faggots that worship the (((free market))).
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>>134333702
As soon as it's legal to slap a bitch again I'll consider it. Until then you can lovingly suck my balls.
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>>134333702
so what?
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>>134338774
So you admit it's your fault.. youre not trying. So try then. I can guarantee you there's a nice girl out there who wants you.
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>>134338790
I am unattractive inside and out and deserve to die alone.
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this and exclusively this
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>>134333702
The rewards aren't worth the effort. Women are cancer, working tons of OT doesn't bring any greater satisfaction in life.
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>>134338970
B.S there's plenty of unattractive people out there.. why do you think you exist (jk jk haha) and they still reproduce. What about all this people in Africa? They're ugly as dirt and they reproduce. Stop falling for lies. You're depressed. You're not thinking straight. If your white you are basically already at the top of the dating pool.
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>>134333702
The incentives for white men to be proud, hard working, contributing members of society are dwindling. Work a shit job for a whore wife and your tax money goes to shit-skin's welfare so they can have half a dozen kids. All the while you are constantly painted as inherently evil just because of the color of your skin.
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>>134333702
Give me one good reason why I should work in a western country in the current year.
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>>134338968
Dude, Im not that bad looking. Im probably a 6, maybe 7.

I may not be a super model, but I had girls chasing me. The thing is that I always had insecurities because of the size of my dick.
I still somehow have it. And since my sexual stress is much lower now than it was whern I was in my early 20s, I dont really see why try to find a 30 yo woman that either already have children ( I refuse to take care of other man kids) or dont have children and is hellbend into marrying before she expires.

Its a no-win situation.
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I have a good job and a loving girlfriend. But I won't be having kids. My father was a pedophile and he raped my sisters. This bloodline needs to die off.
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In my own experience the reason I put off adulthood was 1) no sense of duty 2) addicted to vidya 3) porn was draining my energy 4) weed, alcohol addiction is cool to kids now and spammed on all forms of normie media

Also in my experience, I got out of this hole by:
- learning about the JQ
- looking into my own familial history
- realizing my people (German) were annihilated and then blamed for the murder of Europe, and are still belittled for it today

i'd like to blame and thank the kikes for getting me into this mess and for getting me out of it
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>>134333702
>me in the middle
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>>134339381
Pedophilia is not genetic.
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WE'RE ALL GOING THRU A "STILL FIGURING IT OUT" STAGE w THE INFORMATION AGE IN FULL EFFECT AND ALL.

WE WILL PROB GAS THE KIKES AND THEN GET BACK TO WORK
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>>134336200
batman is like 6' 5"
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>>134333702
1 reason.
It's obvious
Very few talk about it.
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PARENTS
specifically fathers
Men are barely in their children's lives, if at all.
Without a father, children grow up fucked, especially boys. We have no virtues, no values, no identities. So we escape to porn, video games and drugs.
It's that simple.
People who are unfit to be parents had kids.
t. A victim of shit parenting who is finally taking responsibility and getting his shit together
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>>134338195

This.

My car breaking literally keeps me in perpetual poverty. It isn't even a bad car - it just costs $500-$1000 every 6 months when something goes wrong.

The modern economic system is absolutely broken.
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>>134338666
checked

but to be fair, interviews have always been a "does the interviewer think you're good according to their biased values." We just transitioned to a weird time where the dregs of society have somehow snuck into positions of power
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>>134339448
It's not about the genetics. It's about the legacy. Anyone connected to that man needs to fade from history. The sooner it happens the better.
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>>134339383
>JQ
Jelqing?
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>>134339316
I'm a woman and I can assure you size doesn't matter as much as you think it does. Even if your dick is micro sized you can still pleasure in a lot of different ways. Also love goes beyond sex.
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>>134339196

This.
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>>134339552
how is $1-2,000 per anum keeping you in poverty? Sounds like you spend a shit load of cake on other superfluous shit.
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>>134339612

you really don't know?

Jewish Question
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>>134333702
No matter where you go or what you do in this economy you cannot escape the central bankers.
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>>134333702
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>>134339735

$2000 a year being dumped into a vehicle adds up.

Over four years, that is $8000. That is a down-payment on a home.
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>>134333702

because young men were told that less workers required to maintain production but suddenly have to compete with females for paycheck when never had that issue prior! If these cunts want to work, then I'll be a stay at home bitch and play my games!
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make 60kish yr

After paying for Jamal's kids
43k....

Couldn't afford a wife and kid let alone 2 to replace ourselves.

(((They))) won

I'll play video games in my shitty basement apartment until I die,
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>>134340086
>It isn't even a bad car
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>You can make all the excuses you want but the fault lies with men not women or refugees or any other excuse.

It's women fault, lots of successful men are single. In fact poor welfare bums seem to have better luck with women (well trashy ones at least).
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>>134339704
>im a woman
I just hope you are nto one of those woman with an Y chromossome.


And it is 5,5 inches. I kid you not, what fucked me up for life was a misplaced joke that one of my best friends cracked out of nowhere.

We just got out of school that dy and was waiting for the bus in a park near school. We started cracking joke about porn, and woman, and this kind of stuff, until we got into the subject of dick size. And obviously, none of us wanted to "stay behind".

We started mocking each other until he said "oh, come on. I bet your dick dont even reach your bellybutton". We laughed our asses off at the moment, and carry on with our day.

I arrive at home, do the usual stuff. Go take a shower. Do so masturbating and out of nowhere I put my dick upwards to see if would reach my bellybutton. When I saw that didnt came even close, it fucked me up for life.

Stupid, innit??? A joke fucked my personal life forever.
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>>134333702
You're acting like these people owe you and the rest of society something. We're humans, we can do what we want without giving a shit about you and other faggots think.
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>>134337198
You clearly don't know anything about Australia or its people. And why are you bringing guys into it? I'm just as judgmental to them as I am with women - I judge both genders equally as scornfully. Both are in the wrong. It seems that trying to be good and decent will leave you to be an outcast. To fit in is to be a degenerate hedonist funwhore.
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Why does this exact same thread get remade over and over on a daily basis and why are there always so many 1-posts from random shitters who take the thread bait?

Is this a psyop slide thread or some kind of shill thread to instil defeatism in us?

Fuck off and sage these disproved and horribly researched bullshit threads.
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>>134334564
Obtaining an overweight woman isn't hard. Forcing yourself to stay with her loud, boorish, uncultured self is hard.
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>>134340386
It's fun to discuss.
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>>134334970
>just going out, getting a job and finding a wife
You know, just because this is considered a successful life by society and faggot normies doesn't mean everyone agrees. Some people consider THIS to be rotting away.
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>>134333702

Genetic defectives born to women over age 30.

Natural selection is keeping their shit tier genes out of the pool.

T. Chad.
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>>134340386
It builds debating skills, it's nice to have your view challenged.
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>>134333702
>Why are young men unable to get their lives together nowadays? So many men are dropping out an/or becoming NEETs instead of becoming fully functional adults and getting married and raising children. You can make all the excuses you want but the fault lies with men not women or refugees or any other excuse. What is the excuse for men to throw away civilization like this?


Money over bitches. What are you some kind of retarded? For the last 100 years all the most successful and most unsuccessful men have been telling us to not waste or attention or shekels on bitches, but here you are still confused at the subject matter. It's simple, want to live longer, better, freer, and healthier? Fuck bitches, ignore them, get money. Fuck boy ain't even on the same continent
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>>134333702
>23
>No education beyond high school.
>want so badly to go to college and learn, legitimately enjoy Math.
>Don't know where life went wrong

>Now a degenerate.
>Smoke weed and cigs all day.
>Drink at night to help forget my pain.

I don't know man. I really don't know, maybe divorces? My parents were divorced when I was 2 and my brother 4.
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>>134333702
>be me
>living with my fiance downtown, working at a live theater venue
>pay half of rent and utilities every month
>buy all the food we want, travel on the weekends, slowly saving up for retirement
>life is fine

fast forward 3 months
>no hours at work, no more benefits after management puts everybody on part-time to avoid paying anybody anything except penny wages
>fiance dumps me because money is getting tight and I make her nervous
>gotta live with shitty roommates 30 miles away from my job in the suburbs
>no more parking space downtown, gotta pay for plebian street parking every day, which sucks up about half of whatever pay I still get
>bank will take 75% of my retirement savings if I try to cash out early, government will tax the rest
>Just enough money left to take one huge trip by myself to the opposite coast
>where I plan to homicide myself

tl;dr
young men are expendable, that's why we historically send them to war
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>>134333702
I think it's got a lot to do with the economy. Older people are staying in jobs longer, wage stagnation is pretty common, and housing prices are rising. Women don't need men to survive financially and feel less pressure to settle down, so they're able to be a loot choosier since they're in much higher demand than men. Pull up tinder, instagram, or facebook and you'll get instant validation and support as long as you are a moderately attractive woman.

I think this leads to unhappy marriage and divorce since a lot of women perceive (perhaps correctly even) that they could do better if they wanted to. A lot of men see this and see the financial liability from a divorce and decide marriage isn't worth it. Child care is a massive cost these days, and usually both parents need to work to keep the family afloat financially, so when people do have kids they have fewer of them.

I'm not seeking out a relationship and I don't plan on having kids. Stress was a big strain on my last few relationships, and having to work, do household chores, and then do whatever honey-do list stuff she came up with was too much. At least in my experience, most women have unrealistic expectations and are less willing to compromise because they actually can get a man pretty easily, and they'll likely put up with her shit for a few years before breaking down. If it was a one-off, I'd chalk it up to a bad person, but this is a common story in all my relationships as well as those of my peer group. I'm much less miserable on my own.
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>>134333702
Not a NEET and actually doing fairly well. but one reason is because society hates men. Just turn on the television and see how much society despises men. And this is the type of shit that most of us have been watching since we were kids.
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>>134333702
this society is not worth being supported by men

not just the rampant femiwhining. The antagonism towards all right wing ideas in our sphere is a death sentence onto itself and is also sanctioned by men at the same time.

so of course they drop out they have every right to. On top of getting shafted in their courts and ridiculed in the media.

To hell with this shithole.
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>>134333702
Daily reminder that there really is no excuse. Pic related. And no, being fat, skinny, lanky, manlet yada yada yada is not an excuse.
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>>134335231
Participating in current society does not help us as a species. We need to wake up out of this Rothschild slavery mess.
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>>134340299

What vehicle doesn't cost at least $1000 a year in maintenance? Rather than one straight off the lot (for the 1st year or two).
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>>134333702
Fucking cuck, you rejected the exact causes at the start

The jewdiciary system is against men, too much too lose, almost nothing to gain. I prefer to pile up cash and get a Gen Z for wife instead despite being 26 already
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>>134334970
Do you have any idea how many men with good jobs are unmarried, or end up getting divorced?
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>>134333702
Society doesn't know what it wants anymore. Go out and become a lawyer to clean up a shitty economy. That's great until nobody needs your services anymore and a younger guy undercuts you on what used to be interesting and dignified work for many people.

Fact is, this is the new lifestyle of millenials. We can either fight against it to prop up a dying economic model or we can play to the fact that all these people feel cheated by this society and sell them our NEET coins until somebody takes them seriously.
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>>134333702
>why arent young men trying to become modern slaves and spend their time on entertainment instead when they could slave away just to afford a roof over their head work 9-5 or do OT to afford vacation once a year or every 2 years and basically have no freedom whatsoever besides shitting in toilets.

gee i wonder which option seems better.
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>>134340556
Lifting the same weights over and over will not build you muscle. You have to add more weights each time.

Same thing with debating. Debating the same shit over and over does not hone your skills. If anything it boxes your mind in more.
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I think I am going back to video games.
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>>134333702

take away women's right to vote and men and will pick up the mantle of civilization again.
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>>134340321
OMG 5.5" inches is fucking more than fine.

Stop doing this to yourself. Go find a woman!!
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Wouldn't that be easy to become a muslim guys ?

> Universalism, better than tribalism
> Marry a poor Indonesian woman, because you don't give a shit about your race anymore
> Can be misogynistic (and antisemitic if you want)
> Be on a possibly winning side
> Become an imam, no need to be a wage slave

Easy life :^)
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>>134333702
Why would a man, robbed of his identity and vilified, participate in a society that is completely hostile to his kind and trying to replace him with shitskins?
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>>134333702
My mother made me fat and filled me full of estrogen from coffee mate and too much oriental food.

Half of my dick is now covered in fat and i don't look or feel like a man. I can get TRT, but i can't afford to have the skin around my penis pulled back, nor do i doubt that it would work out well if i did.

So thanks to 90's parenting, a stupid bitch, and 90's psychology, i'm trapped as a fat loser.

Anyone got any ideas? I wasn't properly socialized before age 4, so even Jordan Peterson says he cannot help me.
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>dropping out
isn't that a good thing? degrees are worthless nowdays
>not getting married
again, that's a good thing. we need to abolish marriage and have regular pairbonding like animals do
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moshi moshi
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>>134338658
Eeehhhh. It's a lot more complicated than that. But you're close.

Let's not pretend a return to the gold standard or Bretton Woods would, like, be a good idea. But you're in the ballpark

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nixon_shock
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I bet its the jews https://youtu.be/ZrAfMDAqzLg
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>>134340879
It's fine but with women these days how rich do you have to be to hold onto one with a small or retarded dick?

Especially considering women worth the time are less than one percent of the population.
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>>134340321

> fucked my personal life forever

lol come on dude. The first time I was with a girl I was 14 and she wanted to give me head. I couldn't get a boner, at all, and she said "wow it's so tiny" (because it was never hard for her)

I thought that "fucked me up for life" until I started dating girls at 16 and started fucking regularly, and most of them told me my dick was big, too big, not to go so deep, etc.

it's weird how one stupid line, if repeated often enough, morphs your perception of reality. But come on now, stop being a faggot, I have a ~8inch dick and it barely reaches my belly button.

the trick is to live your life like it's a nazi action film and you are the star. Be extremely unapologetic, cocky, overconfident and socially aggressive. Fake it til you make it and in time you will balance yourself out and discover your true self.
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>>134340973
>better than tribalism
Isn't (the MENA region atleast) constantly divided by tribal conflicts?
From what I've heard, in these regions your tribe goes first, then the Ummah comes second.
Just wondering, since Islam doesn't seem to do anything about this issue
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>>134338774
Honestly If you can go back, try it. Try to call back especially if you are average to good looking. Don't fall too deep into the pit like I did. I only realized recently that hate is the only thing what keeps me fueled. Nobody will back you up since you don't belong anywhere.

This world might be shit, but I'll endure because at the end I'll enjoy it.
Like I said don't be me, save yourself.
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>>134339586
You are not your mind/body. You are consciousness, you are the source. We all are. Don't let something external ruin you.
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>>134339704
What is even the point if you're pissed off and exhausted by the time the bitch finally comes?
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>>134341030
>isn't that a good thing? degrees are worthless nowdays

>Implying that's what this is about.

College was suppose to be a place of knowledge and intellectual growth. Literally for bright minds to study, have debate of sciences and achieve great things.

Now look what it's become. If we had such things as the Library of Alexandria, it'd be censored and government controlled too.
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>>134341169
>The first time I was with a girl I was 14 and she wanted to give me head. I couldn't get a boner, at all, and she said "wow it's so tiny" (because it was never hard for her)

Yeah you'd be surprised what wonders having intimate relationships before you're 25 will do to a person's confidence.

Whenever i tried to talk to women in highschool they literally did the "smug anime girl laugh". It was awful.
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>>134333702
> Live in Germany or Sweden
> Can't fight or carry weapons unless military or police
> Shit economy because socialism, hard to find deeply satisfying work
> politicians keep telling you that you're going to get replaced with sub-saharan apes
> Uni is a fucking joke, even STEM students have to deal with rabid SJWs
> Can't court a decent female cause sluts everywhere
> Feminist family courts will fuck you over if you somehow end up setting up a family

Gee, I don't know motherfucker, it might have something to do with the commies ruining literally everything for literally everyone in the West. No sane person would ever want to engage with your ugly-ass society, so some people are just living their lives on the sidelines waiting for a chance to lift you by your necks with a rope. It's not about living up to your ideals, it's about your ideals being absolute dogshit.

Give them a normal world and they're going to live a normal life. I don't see this problem to such an extent here.
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>>134333702
OP underestimates the toxicity of gender politics.

Women are convinced they should hate men, they start developing self-fulfilling prophecies about men, and men decide they'd rather not bother sifting through thousands of cancer tumors and will simply wait for any surviving decent women to gradually rise to the surface- which rarely happens in most cases

It also doesn't help that the economy is about as welcoming to new labor as most cars are to water, and so much goddamn bureaucratic nonsense remains half-heartedly advanced into the digital age where they just shirk off the responsibility of having clear instructions/expectations as if hoping to confuse applicants into leaving. And the paperwork only quintuples if you go indie.

Basically we're living in a gross hybrid of 1984 and Terry Gilliam's Brazil.

So why bother if you're not one of the lucky ones that can attract attention easily?
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>>134340768
>>lawyer
>>interesting dignified work

Seriously dude.... pick one.

3L here.

The US is more disproportionate in the size of its legal sector than it is its military. It's a fucking economic drag almost always. Just worthless fucking people.

Hopefully I can swing it as a defense attorney. That's just about the only segment of law that isn't corrupt at its core level
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>>134341229

Yeah, but Islam still is an universal religion.
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>>134333702

Why should I follow the path of yesterday towards worse results?

They are at the edge of the precipice and you ask them why they aren't willing to walk back into the fire at their back.
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>>134341460
Seriously how can you find a woman who is outside of that influence? Even if they are good people, they will slowly be influenced by every other shitty bitch on earth until they leave you for a nigger because your dick just isn't big enough for them and "they deserve better"

Is there an Amish dating physical builtin board somewhere?
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>>134341537
You know they already got robots for that, right
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>1 post by this ID

i love this meme
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>>134341460
>>134341371
>>134341166
>>134341004

Jesus Christ this is some galaxy-brain level shirking of responsibility.

It isn't everyone else's fault that your dick is tiny, that you're sexually dysfunctional, or that you're fat and nobody will fuck you.

Your problem is you. Improve yourself.
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>>134333702
>slave away like a cuck
>niggers take your welfare
>''free healthcare''
>taxed to death
I feel bad for city NEETS
they cannot live in the forest like me.
i have inherited some land up in the forest with electricity 10+ km away from closest store or any house for that matter.
gonna get rid of my job as fast as possible and fake some kind of illness so im not obligated to work and live like a NEET until fall of this country.
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>degree in mathematics (working on PHD)
>making 360k/yr
>picking up chicks easy at the bar

Learn how to manipulate the system, thats how you really get ahead
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>>134334970
>Also have you wondered maybe just maybe it's the video games and lack of career prospects that turn women off?

Holy Shit! Never thought of it that way!

Women only care about money. If you have it, they are already 80% convinced. The other 20% is subject to the womens standards.
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>>134336200
i hate to break it to you buddy but woman aren't attracted to men who lift and drive a nice car. you know why? because that standard has already been met.
you are expected by default to have it made
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>>134335889
>Because they know that the woman they end up marrying will eventually teach their kids to hate daddy
seriously. it is literally that 1 tiny bit of jewish culture that has ruined society. i don't even believe that there is a jewish plot to destroy the world, its kinda silly desu. it honestly boils down to the fact that jewish women do not respect their husbands--never have--and so they must compensate to keep their families in order... by being rich or over-achieving in some other domain which has resulted in the diaspora as women still just look for chads and can't stand their mousey bitch husbands despite bankrolling lavish lifestyles for them. this resentment always and without fail passes onto the younger generation of JAPs and has over the years seeped into hollywood and the like and thus into family structures outside of that particular ethnic group. literally the ethnic betas of the world have ruined it for everyone
.t jew whose mother (probably not even consciously) taught my sisters to not respect my father
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>>134340581

>be me
>unemployed and on welfare 21-23
>playing vidya all day, gambling away any e-profits I make, losing all my e-money all the time
>smoke weed every day
>drink 4-6 beers a night
>steal from roommate who is a lifelong friend
>go from 185lbs to 140lbs in a year (6'2") from malnutrition because I buy beer instead of real food
>feel hopeless
>depression sets in
>sleep at 6am every day, wake up at 4pm
then...
>red pilled on the kikes and ww2
>find The Golden One
>stop watching porn, smoking weed, drinking
>get a job for the gubmint
>pay off all my debt in 6 months
>start gaining weight and slowly start lifting again
>get fash haircut instead of the usual once-per-year head shave
>stop wearing baggy, unfitted, nigger-tier clothing
>get rid of all excess belongings clogging up my apartment
>get promoted
>lead a team of 16 people
>hit on young aryan-looking women at work
>buy car, first time not taking the city bus to work in 10 years
>study my ancestors
>develop strong sense of racial identity
>mimic Reich ideals
>have a massive urge to reproduce with a young blonde qt and have as many children as I can properly raise (8-12 is ideal at the moment)

Just dedicate yourself to an ideology that correlates with your ancestors' racial identity. You will develop strength you never knew you had.

Don't let nihilism get'cha, save this, read it often, follow it forever

You are every western man. Suicide is selfish degeneracy.
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>>134342023
>Learn how to manipulate the system
This.
Don't be a moralfag and abuse the system to your advantage.
Improve yourself and ride the tiger, so to speak.
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>>134341958
>Your problem is you. Improve yourself.
Yeah the question of the thread is "How?"

We recognize that we need to. How can i go about fixing my mental issues with no money? You got some examples to cite for us?

I never said my life was anyone's fault besides my mother's, and that's a hard contention to disprove at any level.

Surely you're not going to sit there and tell me that the majority of women aren't corrupted or surrounded by corrupted people?
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>>134341698
Lady Luck occasionally hands out giveaways. Evolution also has naturally produced an array of females that absolutely despise SJWery and we can only hope they will be able to make themselves publicly known.

Hell, you can even settle for a gf that still likes social justice if she's the type that actually listens to counterpoints and is actually capable of intellectual debate. They're surprisingly not that hard to win over once common ground is established.

You CAN suck the poison out of the snakebite if try hard enough
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>>134340321
That's literally above average. Average is 5.1"
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/bju.13010/abstract

Hell if you're so caught up in it try penis enlargement exercises. I added 3/4 inch length to mine and a 1/4 inch girth in about 6 months before my gains kinda tapered off. Don't buy into pills or creams, manual is all you need to start
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I just see a bunch of self entitled quitters ITT. Society doesn't owe you anything.

Its like you are waiting for someone to fix everything but don't even try to make yourself worth saving.
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>>134341752
Yeah, but that's a loooooong way off in coming to the point where it'll fulfill the need in the criminal sector.

It sucks because the most lucrative sector of law is the one that is the most useless from a technological level. Your average idiot can file and litigate his own civil case. Criminal cases are much more complex and involve a higher degree of accountability. I don't see the system shirking that anytime terribly soon. Or do I see the very large, very rich part of the economy that is civil law going away either.

No, this is a fundamentally inefficient part of the economy that's gonna be around, undeservedly, for a very long time.
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>>134336200
>women read books on their off time
what are you, an educated boomer? fuck outta here with your tiny world view faggot
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>>134340879
I CAN find a woman. I just gave up because of that.

>>134341169
If you have a 8 inches dick you are either tall as fuck, or fat as hell.

8 inches should be enough to place the head on your belly.

AnNd in todays world, average dont do anymore. Girls want the best of the best. And if they have to cheat on you, they will.

>>134341371
This I can relate to.

>>134342284
Its below average in brazil.
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>>134336322
and this
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>>134340822
It's good for new people I would say, in order for a movement to grow you need entry level stuff.
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>>134342255
spend a week hunting in Prince of Wales near the alaskan panhandle.

that will teach you to endure hardship and when you come back to your comfy basement youll feel so much more happier, confident and appreciative.
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>>134342329
>Yeah, but that's a loooooong way off in coming to the point where it'll fulfill the need in the criminal sector.
Seems to be near enough that you might want to reconsider your career options https://donotpay-search-master.herokuapp.com/

>>134342261
Then hopefully they can wait until i am the man i should be. But i'm 31 now and beginning to feel biological clocks ticking.
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>>134336544
oh come on this is normal now, have fun shitposting and go to 2^3 if you want discussion
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>>134342403
woman dont read books. they mainly just zone out on netflix
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>>134334252
>A lot of them can't get jobs. Or it would be pointless to take the jobs they could get.
No.

http://fortune.com/2017/07/16/video-games-users-men/

>A research team including faculty from Princeton and the University of Chicago now argues that “innovations in gaming/recreational computing”— and not, say, lower demand for less-skilled workers—explain as much as 79% of the difference in working rates between younger and older men.
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>>134342255
>>I never said my life was anyone's fault besides my mother's
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>>134333702
>50% out of wedlock children
>half of men have no fathers
>half of men are raised by an obese 50yo rag who has no desire to achieve greatness
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>>134336548
i hear coding is very lucrative and very easy, anyone can into it
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>>134342682
She took me out of elementary school, failed at homeschooling me, and provided me unlimited food and toys.

She certainly helped.
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>>134336200
Have you ever looked into the kind of books chics read? It's all simple minded dogshit.
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>>134342315
This couldn't get any more ironic.
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>>134336548
get into gayporn
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>>134334076
/thread

In the city where I lived previously, I worked my ass off for while going to school for a single studio apartment...meanwhile the trash living on section 8 and foodstamps lived better than me.

Simply put, there is no incentive to improve one's self anymore or strive for anything better.
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>>134336200

Unironically 10/10 bait
Kikes, take notice, this is how you derail a discussion
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>>134333702
We have lost our purpose.
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>>134342811
>>provided me unlimited food and toys
>>failed me
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>>134342645
>citing Fortune and UoC
>not archiving

Compelling evidence you have there.
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>>134341229
All religion is ultimately tribal, hell look how Christianity in Europe split along ethnic lines, Germanics are largely protestant, Meds are Catholics, and Slavs (minus the Poles) are Orthodox.

Sunni Islam is bible 2.0: Arab supremacy edition. Shia Islam is Persian and other non-Arab peoples respite from that.

Hell look at the ethno-religion that is Judaism
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>>134333702
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QctT0Oc_uQQ&list=PL5VC8MUIERcYpRY6shkqhhQWF6Cvp6mOp&index=37

Watch this. This is all the truth you need. This man speaks from the bottom of my heart.
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>>134342812
Tbh I wish more women read dogshit than binge watched the same shows on Netflix over and over
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>nihilism/lack of purpose
>high taxes
>inflation
>welfare state
>multicultural dystopia tearing apart their culture

Basically they don't see a positive future worth working to create... and, they see work and productivity as futile. Whatever they earn is taken and given to the less productive, whatever they save is evaporated by inflation, the leftist government put the economy is on its death bed and is holding a pillow on its face, the welfare state means women can use men as expendable sperm donors and instead marry the state to get the resources needed to raise kids.

All while being told you're a privileged oppressor that needs to be destroyed.

There is no incentive for being a productive and good man anymore.

We need to recreate the conditions that incentivized good men and strong civilizations.

Low-to-no taxes, no inflation, no welfare state, a monoculture, an environment that's stable enough to save and plan for the future, a clear path toward success, and a greater purpose worth contributing to.
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>>134342941
Yeah i wouldn't expect a marxist to know of the pathology that comes from mercy. You can't even recognize it after 100 million deaths from it.
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>>134338478
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>>134333702
The same bait, every other day.
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>>134338890
Whats wrong with free market?
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>>134333702
i'm sort of living that life myself, not a NEET tho I work fulltime, but in a job that's not particularly social, I work alone, I make decent money though (>$75k) but I have zero desire for children, and very little desire for marriage.

When I'm not working I prefer to stay home, I don't really enjoy going out with friends or doing any social activities. For hobbies I enjoy reading, PC gaming, writing, photography, learning new hobbies/skills. From time to time, during summer/spring months I'll go out and do a little outdoor activity, hiking, kayaking, etc.

Overall though I'm just disillusioned with the world, I guess I've never really "found" my path, nothing that ever happened to me that made me think "THIS is what I MUST do with my life!" instead I've just sort of meandered through life, taking small victories where I find them and disregarding everything else.
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>>134342645

Hehehehe...

Yes... work for us... pay your taxes... vote for our shills and kikes... be a good goy, my friend...
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>>134343055

Shit is still shit anon. If she non-ironically reads or watches garbage you should just steer clear
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>>134336335
>you can always start your own business or become a contractor
That requires a certain level of charisma and social skills that most people don't have.
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>>134333702

>I took a masters degree in engineering so my dreams could come true and now I earn.... minimum wage/am unemployed

Well, that sucks.
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26 year old KHV NEET here. Never worked a day in my life. I got a meme degree and became NEET ever since. Every job I apply to is either given to an illegal, non-white, or a high schooler and nobody wants a jobless degree having white loser. Feels good.
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>>134334076
We need to start communes. I'm a med student who owns a condo, I rent out my second bedroom to an electrician friend and his GF at 2/3 market rate on the condition they do the chores and cooking.

Ends up saving all of us 30% or so on our monthly expenses. Volk helps Volk
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>>134333702
It's almost as if a strong society that serves its people generates more loyal men than a self hating society busily engaged in replacing its own population with shitskins. Honestly, you reduce western society to some soulless grey cosmopolitan shitheap centered around hedonism and consumerism, removing all national identity in the process and then sit there wondering about why men aren't striving to be a part of your new utopia.
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>>134342315
society cannot be saved at this point anymore. people can't even think logically anymore, every day a new low is reached. every day humanity is embarrassing itself. even our world leaders don't even know what the fuck they are doing anymore.
just let it end peacefully, don't scream.
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>>134343190
Nothing, but to certain people if a system is abused by Jews, it must be evil.
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Life is so depressing, just endless work and consumption. If you don't have looks or money it's hard to find the point.
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>>134342422
Not by much, with PE you can easily add an inch over a year. Believe me the basic science of tissue expansion has been known since the 1920's, its just people did too much too fast and totally fucked the reputation. Manual only for the first 3 months.
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>>134343337
I just say that because people who read have better imaginations. I don't get on guy's cases for reading comic books.

Plus most netflix binge watchers get fat as fuck. I haven't met too many overweight readers.
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>>134343396
This. Media tries to blame it on video games, but video games are just the mean of escapism from what you said, not the cause. Great post
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>>134343385
God bless you :).

Yes, we need to start helping one another out and preparing. Problem is, while many on Pol know about the issues, too many are too lazy, or too individualistic to do anything about it. That's why the other side is winning.
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>>134343622
I brough a penis extensor. Barely used because is winder her and I cant endure staying naked from the botton down on this temperature with a metallic thing on my dick.

Fuck, I could use it right now.
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>>134343346
Take a shot of liquid courage then. You don't build social skills by not talking to people
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>>134334534
Thats why we need feminism
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>>134338515
ya know what, i think i might just ditch nat soc for str8 up socialism now
>wtf i love socialism now
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>>134342315
We're trying to understand a trend here, not try to individually counsel an entire demographic

You can't just dismiss those trends as mere character flaws spontaneously occuring unprovoked. There HAS to be causal relationships between male demotivation and external factors and it doesn't take a genius to work out what those are
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>>134333702
Why bother ?
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>>134343125
>>pathology from mercy

Jesus. The lengths you go to to justify personal sloth. And commies are supposed to be the lazy ones.
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>Be a 27 year old man in my parent's attic eating microwave lasagne while wearing a penguin kigu.
idk because there's no point in progressing, really.
I don't want a wife or kids because women are awful these days and kids are a liability or a weapon to be used against you in court.
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>>134343940
>he doesn't know about oedipal mothers

Go to school, maybe?
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not sure if it was posted yet
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uwPFnvniA7w
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>>134339015
>>134343107
Tldr: postmodern neomarxist takeover of culture and government.
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>>134343800
I get violent even with small doses of alcohol, so I'd rather not.
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>>134333702
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>>134343527
>>Life is so depressing, just endless work and consumption. If you don't have looks or money it's hard to find the point.

Brother, have I got a book for you...
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>>134342645
>Confusing symptoms and cause
Cart, horse.
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>>134343993
You need more of an excuse to throw away your life besides "girls made fun of me in high school"
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Because games are fun and addictive? Women don't interest me, I'm sure there's a few decent ones out there, but I'm far too lazy to go searching, even having found them, there's no promises I'd be able to court em. So instead, I game. Keeps me busy. I have plenty of family members, so I'm sure my genetic line will continue without me.

That being said, there's something liberating about not caring anymore. It's this free feeling that just constantly keeps me feeling content. P.S I'm 28, never worked a day in my life, never had a significant relationship either. Probably stopped caring around 22. Give or take. So I'm 6 years deep, and it's pretty good.
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>>134344250
What's with the projection, nigger?
I'm not even bad with women. I've had qtgfs who have actually been posted in /b/ waifu threads lel.
It's just all so tiresome.
A burger like you probably wouldn't understand.
Just let me wear my penguin pajamas in peace.
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>>134333702
>the fault lies with men, not women or refugees
This is where the flaw in your argument is. Men are becoming NEET because of the lack of decent women. I think you have your cause and effect backward. The cause is female degeneracy and the effect is men giving up on finding women who aren't degenerates.
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>>134335297
>its not my fault that my life sucks, its muh k-kikes. 14/88 hahalol
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>>134339015
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>>134344313

You should at least not post here if you're just going to give up in life. If you choose the life of a faggot failure sloth, at least realize your petty opinion is worthless and better left unsaid.
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>>134344486
I've never given up in life, I just chose a life-style you may not find appealing. We all have the roads we travel down, they may not suit you, but I've found them to be enjoyable, so i'll keep treading.
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>>134334076
>have a job managing a store in a big chain
>only person above me is the defacto store manager (i'm the sales floor manager)
>responsible for running of the entire front of house, and ensuring targets are beat each week
>still can't afford to even rent a place alone
That's what i get for being born in London i guess, 30 years ago this kind of job would have fed a family of 4 for fucks sake
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>>134333702
Yeah Idc anymore. I'm good looking enough where I can get the occasional fuck from chicks and not a complete sperg. But I just can't justify myself working full time at some office somewhere wanting to kill myself everyday. At least at my part time job I have enough time to do what I like and don't have to be entirely reliant on my parents just need the living space. Some people aren't cut out for this life shit like me. But I'll just try to skate on by however I can.
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>>134339531
this
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>>134344486
This thread was asking WHY there's an epidemic of NEETs and shut-ins. They gave you an answer. Why are you so upset? You not noticing the exact same reasons turning up again and again?
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>>134344377
>Accusation, racial association

Shareblue detected.
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>>134344377
>What's with the projection, nigger?
Its not projection, its what your post reads as. There's nothing wrong with not wanting a wife and kids but when you link it to staying at your parents house then you have a problem.
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>>134336200
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>>134344614
Hey at least you didn't grow up in a Back House.
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>22 years old
>living with mom
>going to trade school
>one semester away from being a certified welder
>accruing a collection of other industrial and technical certifications
>welders get paid well enough I could live on my own in the next year or so
>other trade/manufacturing skills increase my prospective salary even further
>tall, built, good looking, big dick, not a total fucking sperg, could probably get women if I pursued them
>don't want to have kids or get married
>tfw gonna be able to afford to live comfortably, travel, and play all the vidya and watch all the animu I want
>tfw when the waifu age comes I'll be able to afford to be on the bleeding edge of waifu technology
>tfw comfy future ahead
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>>134344764
>Shareblue using the word "nigger" ever.
Come the fuck on, this is some ass-tier delusion.
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>>134344603

you chose pleasure, I chose duty

you are basically a woman. Worse than a woman, you are a traitor to masculinity

I hope you wake up. If you don't, I hope you die early
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>>134344794
goals = motivation
motivation contribute to goals
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Ahahahah why? What is the reward for slaving yourself to death? Seeing all your income disappear to pay taxes and housing? Falling into poverty to pay for alimony and child support?
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>>134344896

Shareblue slides threads by finding an aspect of it that goes against narrative and then they shift proxies and spam "hah this is what a nigger kike jew liberal would say" and then the idiots on pol actually agree and everyone dogpiles those people.

But you're all being far too consistent in your implementation. It's childishly easy to spot.
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Arguing with NEETs is usually pointless. They are so stuck in the mentality of giving up they don't even want to try. Advice from a well meaning place is ignored so it is no surprise no one wants to bother with you guys.
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>>134344933
You have an amazing way of making an ordinary life sound disgustingly unappealing to the disenfranchised mindset
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>>134340321
>tfw above average (6.25) but constant jokes about height & shoe size have left me more insecure than a man with a micropenis
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>>134344933
That's nice. I chose to live my life for me, you can choose whatever you want, that's your life, this is mine. So keep up keeping up, and i'll keep up keeping up. If it makes you happy to rage at me over your life choices, I'll allow it. It's probably healthy.
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>>134333702
At some point in your life you just realize if you are a life looser or you can achieve something. All these guys saying "improve yourself" are ignorants. We live in times where your personal achievments and hard work dont mean anything, and you are born a looser or you won a lottery. And by winning a lottery i dont mean 10/10 in every aspect but a decent chance. A certain % of men will always be total loosers and you cant change that, in older times we could at least work hard and we would be rewarded for that but today no one cares so why should i care. I could just die right now and i wont miss anything in my life.
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>>134340341
also this, like wtf?
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>>134344864
i grew up in east london mate, i've already beat the average life expectancy and i'm 24, only been threatened with a knife maybe 4-5 times
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>>134336200
The age of men will never be over. When women take the lead they ultimately cause society to deteriorate into a broken system where agressive and classicaly macho men exceed. It's like a reaction under equilibrium, they are their own worst enemies.
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>>134340398
hahahahaha so much this
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>>134344748
There really isn't a real reason for these people. Its always just "life is hard so I gave up". Its nothing no except the items used to escape reality are different than the ones used In the past.
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>>134344236
I'd rather have food on the table
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>>134341004
>>134341958
I fucking hate commies so much. He had a shit fucking parent you fucking faggot, it wasn't his fault.

This whole "sort yourself out" meme is really starting to rustle my jimmies. It's on par with "you only have yourself to blame"

Sometimes parents can fuck their kids up, the end.
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>>134345079
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>>134344870
>>134344870

True. My job is temporary, and just an example of how I got out of a bad situation. Thanks for the information.
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>>134333702
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNLNzoogBKU
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>>134342155
I know this is fake because you claim you got a job for the Canadian government (perhaps provincial) as a white male.
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>>134344486
>. If you choose the life of a faggot failure sloth
What decides that a life is wasted ? NO children ? Suicide ? Is 9-5 job , a broken household a successful life ? IS contributing to society ?
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>>134336508
>>134336335
>>134337198
>>134338478
>>134338790
>>134338968
>>134339179
>>134339704
>>134340879
Catholic roastie go away.
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>>134344236

Are you somehow implying that the Communist endless depressing work for even less money than Capitalist wage slaves is somehow more uplifting?
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>>134334076
This and its happening in every western country.
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>>134340576
first step is getting sober
its pretty trippy after being high all the time. and you have loads more energy and concentration
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>>134345210

You don't think there's an awful lot more of them nowadays?
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>>134345142
Yeah and you had to get up every day to start the coal fire or you and your family would freeze?

You had to walk around the block and wait in line to piss this morning?

You lost your mother because she had the flu and had to wait in line too long in the cold one day?

You have it better than your ancestors a generation ago. Focus on that.
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>>134345074

How will we purge society's worst without another global war?

We shame them
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>>134342144
>desu
kill yourself.
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>>134344998
>motivation contribute to goals
Do like the japs do and get a part time job to pay for your gaming hobby. People need to realize you don't need a world changing motivation to make you work.
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>>134334076
/thread
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>what is socialism

/thread
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>>134334806
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>>134333702
I graduate college as an electrical engineer major two months, never got an internship because they fell through twice where I wasn't told I would get it, and now I can't find a job and want to kill myself. I busted my ass for 4 years studying engineering and current work on elevators making 20/hour and want to jump down into the shaft
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>>134335231
>your species
The species is doing really, really well, and this is the main problem. There's too much competition. In a few years, you won't find us so alien anymore
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>>134333702
vidya is a (((plot))) to make young men weak and feeble so that when the culling begins they are unable to resist

this began with obama, and continues to this day

sickening
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>>134340086
>>134340689

Learn how to maintain your car you goddamn retard. I drove a used car my parents bought me at age 16 for 13 years and had to pay maybe $5k in repair costs total.
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>>134344412
The lack of decent women is created by shitty men. Its a man's job to make an attempt to groom a woman so she has some value and can be a good mother.

Women are programmed to be mothers, you just need to tweak the settings by acting like you have some direction in your life.
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>>134345509
your first day on /pol/?
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>>134345500
And how well has that been working for you thus far?
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>>134340838
Tell this golddigger to fuck off forever.
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>>134344220
I agree with the sentiment, but this still comes off as pretty faggy.
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>>134339531
u and me both, anon
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>>134345210
See, the problem with this thread is it says you can't blame women, but I don't agree with that at all. I think that's a huge part of my reason for not "growing up more". If a woman isn't worthy of marrying and having kids with, then we don't have any responsibilities beyond ourselves. And it's quite easy to support yourself if you have low standards, so we have far more freetime to do other things. I'm sorry I don't feel promiscuous women attractive, I can't stand the concept of her having various partners before me. You can call me shallow, or have no self-esteem, or whatever. None of that matters to me because it's a feeling, it can't just be ignored, at least not healthily. So sure, I partly blame women, I'm not mad at them though, I just decided to opt out and do my own thing.
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>>134333702
How am i supposed to buy a car, a house, food clothes and pay the bills and on top of that support 2 children with $700 a month pls tell me.
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>>134333702

They are clever. I did the whole shebang. I workout to the poor of exhaustion. I studied for a decade. I went into debt for school. I go to work and suck baby boomers dick everyday.

What do I get for it? I don't make enough to live without roommates a boring car, eating the same thing every day to save money. No friend it love interest from moving or .... I don't even know.
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>>134345434
No I don't feel they are. I just feels like the issue is getting more attention because the world is more connected then its ever been.
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>>134345308

Veterans, women, immigrants and abos all get hiring preference. Canada is cucked as you know; gov will not question it if you check 'female' and 'abo' on your application. This will get you hired.

I didn't do this because honor, but you can.
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>>134334076
So obviously the only way to get easy money is to have kids. Why aren't we having kids? Don't think about it, just do it.
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>>134334307
Agreed. Besides it's ironic. The poor work and the Bankers still every nickle and dime.
>In B4 you gotta build your dream Anon
Not every person is destined to he bill gates.
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>>134345308

also, federal
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Society won't stop me from playin' muh vidya!
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>>134345062
Amen.

A big part of why I bega to question modern Fascism and later my entire ideology is the whininess. It just seems endemic. And it seems to the point that any answer that might be even a little humbling or a little suggestive that you might not actually be the strongest man-god in the world is taken as a personal affront.

The snowflake thing really is irritating. And I've found righties to be way bigger complainers complaining about the wrong things than the leftie 'flakes.
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>>134345851
*Steal
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>>134334970
dumbfuck, it was the retarded post-modernist feminazi women that caused men to withdraw into video games and NEET-related activities like 4chan. NOT the other way around. This shit (video games, 4chan, checking out of society, etc) is a defence mechanism against this rapidly degenerating society.
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>>134333702
because men are not slaves. What do you think you are working towards? Supporting niggers, arabs and all shitskins and their 10 children each while you work your fingers to the bone?

You're going to fucking die. Everything is coming down.
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>>134345358
"Endless depressing work"

Look, this isn't the 19th century where it took a day to make a pair of pants. We're heading toward the post-scarcity society. Fully automated luxury communism will be the only way to live like a civilized person and not a feudal serf.
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>>134345601
I doubt we'll get to the point of common NEETdom. You guys are a outlier. Normie neets will do things outside of their homes.

Plus I expect things to come crashing down in the future and when that happens I don't see being a NEET an option
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>>134345447
my ancestors a generation ago bought a house at 25 mate, grew up in the big booming London economy where jobs and money were awash, I could go back to pre WW1 or something, but i could also spend my time being thankful i ain't some african orphan living in a hut, that doesn't fix the problems of living in london now either though
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>>134333702
Because we're a dying star. A couple of decades ago we ruled pretty much everything. Even if you were a poor, working-class white man, you knew you belonged to the most powerful group of people on earth.

Nowadays, it's women and non-whites who look forward to their future, as they have nothing but things to gain as our own influence decreases. At the same time, every year we see less and less of our own in the leading positions. How on earth is it even possible to look at that without getting depressed?
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>>134345210
its because you are not asking the right questions.

if there were no woman in this world, would you still wake up every day,work and lift weights? of course not. because woman are a source of your motivation. family is a source of your motivation. feeling proud in what you do is a source of motivation.
there is an old saying that goes "every job respects its owner" no one follow by that rule anymore. our parents drilled into our minds that if we don't become college educated we would be making barely enough to survive, which is a fucking lie. parents told us that being nice will get you ahead in life, another lie, they told us to treat people equally and develop ideals that are based on nothing. they didn't prepare us to the real world and got us into trouble more than helping us.
everything in this world is just 1 big fucking lie.
the world revolves around money and pussy and this is why people like lauren southern and laci green are millionaires.
do you want to wake up to that horrible reality? not me
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>>134345967
Have you considered you might just be lazy and unfuckable?
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>>134345622

The only success I have had in terms of helping friends get past addiction or apathy has been negative reinforcement. So personally, very well.

On a larger scale, idk, probably better than appeasement and (((respect))) for poor decisions
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>>134345776
Live within your means. Use public transportation instead of buying a car. Sacrifice some luxuries until you can afford them again, buy cheap, easily storable, and healthy food in bulk.
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>>134346205
>my ancestors a generation ago bought a house at 25 mate
Then your ancestors were the 1% of londoners at the time. How many servants did they have? At least two, i assume?
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>>134345613
Oooh, circular logic, my favorite!

Seriously, though, how exactly do you define a "direction" in life? What kind of "direction" can you give to the average layperson with no particular talent or unusual skillset?

What about the steps needed to get there and those ever-present obstacles like competition and networking and opportunity?

And just for fun, let's add women having the expectation of a salary so that her maternal instincts become an obstacle to her career and the average household income doubles because both parents have jobs and nobody gives a rat's ass about the kids and meanwhile those living alone still face prices meant for people with two income streams.

If you can set a clear fucking course through that shit then by all means, share with the class!
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>>134344619
>But I just can't justify myself working full time at some office somewhere wanting to kill myself everyday
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkqbHQqLwMU
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>>134346287
You can't say that with that flag.
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>>134340663
>All those stats using 12 month time frames

There's plenty of shit marriages where the guy can get his cow to fuck once a year. That doesn't mean he isn't trapped financially in a loveless relationship. Also why was Median used for sex partners when comparing men and women instead of the Mean?
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>>134336335
>You can try and convince yourself otherwise but men were made to become fathers and be skilled producers

You have to understand there isn't a lot of room for skilled producers anymore, you only need the best of the best to manage and design, the rest is done by machines
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>>134333702

It doesn't help that grandma and grandpa are riding Harleys and doing yoga, rather than helping look after the grandkids.

Families used to stay together, three generations living together under one roof.

Gas the Boomers.
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>>134346235
>if there were no woman in this world, would you still wake up every day,work and lift weights?
You are a goddamn pussy slave ....
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>>134346437
>Then your ancestors were the 1% of londoners at the time. How many servants did they have? At least two, i assume?
i try not to stereotype american education, but you do realise a generation ago is people who grew up in the 60's-80's right? we aren't talking Jane Austen Victorian England
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>>134333702
>Ever marrying.
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>>134345757
>I just decided to opt out and do my own thing.
And that's a fine thing to do but you can't blame not finding a girl on girls themselves. If you waited until your late 20's or early 30's to find a girl and you notice that all the girls are used up stacys then the problem lies with you. Its your fault for not establishing a relationship with someone at a younger age and its your fault for screwing up whatever relationship you had or choose to have.

That's mainly the issue I have with this thread. Its the fact that people are putting the blame on something other than themselves.
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>>134343107
This dude knows and is 100% right
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>>134346936
Oh, I agree. Obviously if I had found a nice virgin in HS, and the relationship had lasted, I'd probably be a very different man right now. But I'm at the age where I won't find a virgin, at least not one that it'd be creepy to date, I missed the age limit. I don't cry over it though, again I just decided to opt out completely. Just explaining why i chose that.
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>>134346287
But there's supposedly an epidemic of such people. We have three options now.
1. genes have changed - most likely not drastically enough to warrant a change withing 1-2 generations.
2. society have changed - and it did, thanks to feminism and leftists.
3. economy have changed - no gold standard, private central banks, no real rise in wages... There's something wrong.
So either you have to show that somehow people got worse, admit that society got worse or admit that economy got worse. The problem with economy is that people were fucking each other even when there was a depression.
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>>134336280
they do though. all of the young adult books are geared toward female readers exclusively. every book in barnes and noble are designed with the female reader. I don't remember the last book that appealed to men/boys. it was probably game of thrones.

trust me, i work at barnes and noble.
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>>134346936
You fucking faggots keep looking through the myopic lens of solipsism, as if the only thing a man is to look forward to is his personal satisfaction. Did you ever once think in your miserable life that there is more to the world than fucking a woman? So you have a wife and children, and the country is spiraling into worthless niggerdom and savagery - what now? That must overwhelm you with joy that you get your selfish satisfaction and give your children a one-way ticket to fucking hell.

You are all worse than boomers, which is just astonishing.
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>>134345280

Why the FUCK was that reply deleted?

KIKE MODS DESERVE DEATH
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>>134336335
every fact you listed here is wrong

>Men are more likely to cheat
not true.
>Why don't you picture yourself having a wholesome long lasting marriage instead?
because the divorce rate stands on 30-50% in developed countries. the average duration of a new marriage is 4.5 years. 75% of divorcees that file for divorce are females.
there is over 90% chance that your children will be taken away in the process of the divorce, if you are a men. even if your wife is abusing your kids. you have to pay child support and alimony for at least 18 years and you won't even get to visit your kids if your wife doesn't allow it.
the divorce industry is generating hundreds of billions a year. almost like a small nation GDP.
second marriages are 70% likely to end in divorce as well.

welcome to the real world.
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>>134346475
I said ACT like you have direction in your life. Have some fucking goals that aren't "beat this video game, fap, and go to bed". Thats how you have direction in your life. You won't attract another person in your life unless you can give the impression that you know what to do, even if you don't really know. People want some stability in their life, especially when things are so unstable.

I know you just want to quit because being adult is just too hard because set backs happen. Its okay. Society will keep babying you until you decide to grow up.
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>>134336700
even a bargain book is enough to expand the mind more than a video game.
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>>134346881
My mistake i assumed you were over the age of 18.
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>>134346164
>I doubt we'll get to the point of common NEETdom

It's closer than you think
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Don't worry lads, millennial and Zs will be the last generation this shit will fly. The next generation will have it so bad, they will actually take action, as every generation that had it bad enough did. Not to mention the remnants of the decadent subhumans that got us into this (boomers) will finally be purged from this earth. It will take a while, but once they're gone, we and the subsequent generations can finally start fixing what they ruined with their hedonism and life of abundance.
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>>134346235
>would you still wake up every day,work and lift weights
Yes because there are other reasons for being stronger besides picking up girls.

> we don't become college educated we would be making barely enough to survive
I agree that its a lie that more people need to realize.

>parents told us that being nice will get you ahead in life,
it does. Being an asshole can only get you so far in life. The only people who can pull off being an asshole are guys naturally gifted in strength and intelligence.

>they didn't prepare us to the real world
its not their job to. Their job is to keep you alive until you're old enough to support yourself.

>the world revolves around money and pussy
While its true that the money rule the world I don't think pussies do. If that was the case every girl would be a millionaire. Girls have their own stresses and struggles too.
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How is a severely commercialized 1st world life better than the tribal setting our ancestors lived in?

>safe, plentiful food, sex
These things are given to you for farely small effort. Almost all civilized men are treated as managed human resources. Your born, get a ssn# slapped on your ass, your taught useless shit, you have sex, work, retire, die.

Yes a primitive life would be harder, but atleast you'd have a group that cared about you, and that you cared about. All your decisions would matter. Each day you would be tasked with hunting, gathering, farming, and occasionally defending against attacers or raiding enemy enclaves. You can say you don't Anna live so dangerously, but deep down all your favorite video games and TV shows tell about different story. Most men enjoy violent games and movies, and fantasize about an apocalypse. The thing is, most of them just wanna watch that stuff on tv. Cause they're safe. At hom. Eating bagel bites. Look at me for instance, I love camping and hunting and wrestling, yet I'm on fucking 4chan.

Modern life a day care.
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>>134335298
If you want to see less niggers, don't work in the government sector. Work for businessminded private companies. Build up your self-image and work out. Love yourself in a literal sense if you want others to want you. Learn personal finance. I don't earn that much but I'm able to save at least 700 USD every month, because of this:
>but only healthy food
>drink only water
>no candy/snacks
>don't drink alone
>if you drink, you don't have to get drunk
>try clothes in stores, buy it online, easier to get discount codes online.
I spend less than 200 USD and still eat like a king well over healthy calories per day.
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>>134347439
With mandatory salaries sure, I just expect a big bad natural disaster or some politcal nightmare to happen before or after those kick in.

I'm sort of a prepper so I just expect the worst to happen sometime in my life
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>>134347345

Ahhhh, I see, lie about financial stability to trick a partner into marrying you.

Yeah, it may just be my Y chromosome talking, but that's a fucked up approach to ANY relationship.

And for the record, I'm a student and I have a gf so I'm not saying that I'M lacking direction myself, I just can totally understand how someone in a less fortunate position could easily have no goddamn clue what to do
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Caitlyn Jenner is a woman according to our culture today. Jesus doesn't come back soon enough to right all wrongs.
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>>134347215
ah I see. It does suck that there's time limit for this stuff so I truly you the best in life anon.

I find men who are able to admit their own limitations and failures the most admirable in life. Its certainty not a easy thing to do.
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>>134347721
every woman that is above a 7 is set for life.
a woman that is a 10 have the potential to be a millionaire if she plays her cards right
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>>134347432
>My mistake i assumed you were over the age of 18.
i'm 24 you moron i've already stated that, my parents are still baby boomers, hit their teenage years in the 60-70's, both had houses at 25, now would you like me to lay out the math about why my parents weren't born during the war with napoleon? i understand with that common core stuff it's easy to make such mistakes
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>>134348098
Agreed. There are some cases of neet men who are muscular and attractive. But save for religious reasons, iv never seen a neets girl more attractive than a 7
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>>134347267
>what now?
There's nothing to do if you don't have the power to stop it. While we all talk a big game online the majority of us are not in a position to greatly change the world.
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>>134347836
>lie about financial stability to trick a partner into marrying you.
That isn't what I'm saying at all. You can be a broke hobo living on the rails but as long as you have some goals you are working towards that are meaningful, people won't disregard you.

No one wants to hang out with the person with no life experience and NEETs are the least experienced people around.
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>>134346327
This is probably the best redpill I have seen. Thanks for this post.
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>>134337734
> implying sexbots will exist in the next fifty years
> Even when they exist, they'll be banned by women
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>>134348243
My dad was born in the 1930's. The 1930's is when George Orwell went around london seeing how people lived and he wrote most of it down in his book The Road to Wigan Pier.

Not my fault that all they teach you in school is about the prophet muhammad.
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>>134348098
i'd probably say most women above a 3 are pretty set, from my experience women can be drug addled no money/prospects/history of cheating/living with parents and 30 years old, all while being a 4ish and still have people chasing after them, it's insanity
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>>134348098
>every woman that is above a 7 is set for life.
Not every girl is a 7 and above nor can every girl keep up the appearance of a 7.Girls aren't just born with a petite body and they certainly don't wake up with their hair and makeup on.
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>>134340086
> 8k down payment
> Not 30-40k
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