>people want some stairs for a local park >government

>random person trips over the stairs
>sues government for $65,001

Would that happen in leafland or is that purely an American thing?

>>134327121
>trips over guardrail
>tumbles down stairs
>dies

When did you realize that government is fundamentally useless ?

t. Ron Swanson

>>134327121
>let's just put 3 steel 1m pipes here.
>it will cost 25000$

it keeps happening

>>134327342

it would happen here as well, but only because of burgerland's proximity

>>134327121
no goy we need 10 thousand dollars to make some rainbow crosswalks.

>>134327121
Those stairs look pretty shitty to be fair. Also you can't just have people building what they want in public spaces, its a nightmare if someone gets hurt

>“I think everyone will understand that it will be more than $550,” he said on Wednesday. “We just can’t have people decide to go out to Home Depot and build a staircase in a park because that’s what they would like to have.”
>We just can’t have people decide to go out to Home Depot and build a staircase in a park because that’s what they would like to have.”
>people can't improve their local community with their own money

>>134327121
Those are stairs? THIS is the standard for leaf architecture? god no wonder your country is absolute dog shit

Oh the humanity...

>>134327638
That is a fair point anon. How do you not see that?

they don't look too great desu.

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>>134327121
Most people will eventually come to the realisation that more government is actually the problem and not the solution to our problems. Right now I think the majority of people are still naive to this but in the upcoming stage of the ongoing financial crisis it will become clear to all but the dumbest of dumb that it was governments which were the problem after all.

>>134327121
It's clearly unsafe as it is, but 65 000$ for a 10 steps stairs is a rape. And I say it as someone who lives in a country where the waste of public money is a sport.

>>134327121
>>134327365
Is it actually possible to sue for literally everything? Is there no personal responsibility? It's another thing if the stairs would break under a small weight due to poor construction, but tripping?

We need laws on how one should move their limbs.

>>134327525
>Were retarded, but its only because america is retarded too
Excellent point
Well thought out
It excuses everything
You are morally superior
kys

>>134327121
He did a shitty job, look at how narrow the top platform is compared to the stairs. That's just one glaring flaw I see from a small image, if you look closely I'm
I sure there are more problems. Clearly a hobbyist, and not a good one. Shitty half assed work is cheap, who knew?

Also, the park is not his property.

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>>134327736
Because they need some way to justify paying a black, transgendered city planner $110k/year + benefits + pension. We really are in the end times. For real this time.

>>134327843
Well if the "code" says they need to do landscaping around it, lay down concrete, pay cops overtime to do the job of a sign post, then sure it easily adds up.

These homemade stairs look stupid too, but maybe they are funished.

those stairs look friggin crap

ancaps r retards

government is best

fuck freedom and liberty, only non-communist retards are ancap

worst ideology ever

>>134327992
>Because they need some way to justify paying a black, transgendered city planner

Shut up you absolute retard

>>134327121
>Cuck poster
>own a piece of land
>share it with some goys
>goys say to improve it you should add this and that to it
>lolno.jpg
>wake up one morning to find this and that on your land. Its like you hate property rights or something.

Also those look like the shittest set of stairs Ive ever seen. Now imagine some poor kid falling over them and cracking their skull open on the frame. Enjoy your fucking lawsuit.

>>134327938
the height and spacing of the first 3 stairs are off, that really fucks with people. The middle stairs look like they are only supported in the middle. The railing looks like it starts away from the top stairs and ends on the bottom stair.

>>134328132
Explain how I'm wrong memeflag. Bonus points: post under your real flag.

>>134327596
I think the point is more that it shouldnt take anywhere near $65000.

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>>134328095
Not an argument, communist scum.

>>134327820
>things that require human input and effort become more expensive
>things that are 90% automated become cheaper

Is this image supposed to be a surprise?

>>134327638
Only the city is allowed to do things, once upon a time you had stuff like communities, now we just have government.
People are individuals only!

It's fucking Toronto though there is no "local community".

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>>134327121
This is why libertarian-ism is necessary.
>inb4 hur dur lolbertarians amirite?

desu that looks like a really shitty set of stairs..

>>134327121
Good that he did that but that is not code and looks very sloppy.

>>134328234
>I think the point is more that it shouldnt take anywhere near $65000.

Thats fair, and I agree I guess. It would be interesting to see a breakdown of costs before jumping to conclusions though

>>134328232
Regulations exist and need to exist for a reason, what the actual fuck are you bringing up black transgender people for?

wow that looks like shit.

props to the guy for getting off his ass and doing something, but he should stick to things he's good at.

fuck the government. though hopefully they do remove it, so that somebody who doesnt suck so bad at making stairs can give it a shot.

>>134328132

I wonder why this (((Anon))) hides his flag

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>>134327121

When Reagan ran for his first term.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ixNPplo-SU

fucking bureaucrats

>>134327342
>pay structural engineering firm some pocket change to look at it and say "yep, it's safe"
>don't get sued

>>134328457
It's toronto
They only spend money if they can find a social justice cause to do it, and luckily they've used it to find plenty of ways to waste money.

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>MUH STAIRS
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>>134328483
Here you go

>>134328059
>if the "code" says they need to do landscaping around it, lay down concrete, pay cops overtime to do the job of a sign post
Ah, you're country seems as gay as mine...

>>134328457
>t. quintessentially British mulatto with a feminine penis
Take a look at who gets hired into municipal government positions Sadik.

>>134328589
>dont pay structural engineer
>somebody gets hurt
>instead pay multimillion dollar payout to injured person
>park closes indefinitely

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Government projects cost so much because city officials need to line their pockets first.

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>>134327121

The only thing a government should be doing is deporting marxist kikes and foreigners

>>134328468
props to some retard old white liberal voter who did something shitty that will now get torn down?
The stairs are only supported in the middle lol

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>>134328095
>government is best
>communist

>>134328699
The point being which everyone is in agreeance it shouldn't cost 65k fucking fed notes to build a functional set up stairs for a park.

>>134328761
>The stairs are only supported in the middle lol
There's nothing wrong with that.

>>134328457
urban planners need to be imprisoned for the harm they've done

>>134327121
Not against this idea at all, and I literally quote whole houses for less than $65,000 but nothing about this staircase meets code.

>>134328457
they have to pay a lawyer for paper work, someone else for more permits, someone to build them which they will charge by the hour and drag it out a month. then they will have to pay for inspection and probably pay someone a flat rate to keep the stairs 100%

>>134327638
There's bureaucrats to pay.

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>>134328095

Public works projects cost so much because they need a small army to

1) get it passed through the budget
2) make sure whatever they are building is up to code
3) make sure that it is handicap accessible
4) actually build the damn thing

The idea is to minimize lawsuits. Some old bitch is going to slip and fall and these stairs and sue the city for $10 million.

Blame lawyers and litigious culture

>>134327121
Honestly he did a shitty job but I get the point. The government charges a lot of money because they buy material from expensive companies and hire workers that stand around for 5 hours. It's easier to contract these expensive fuckheads than to find someone else to do it cheaper, so the government just forks over as much money as the contractors demand. The US does the same thing.

Ask anyone with military experience about those 12,000 dollar steel wrenches? Could run to Lowes and get the same fucking wrench for 20 bucks but naw, let's just keep charging the American people that huge amount. It's fine. So much easier than shopping like a pleb lel ecks dee

>>134328856
Maybe if it was your home, with limited traffic, and when you eventually bust a hip because the end didn't support the weight of a person thats your own business...

But this is now a public stairs, it needs to be built better than that

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>>134327121
to be fair it looks unprofessional as fuck, no durability and injury danger.
would remove it as well and rebuild it while following all norms and rules

>>134327863
>Is it actually possible to sue for literally everything?
Yep
>Is there no personal responsibility?
Nope

This nobody builds the city a free staircase. It's not up to "code". The wood isn't rated for outdoor weather. The wood hasn't been coated. The staircase hasn't been anchored to an appropriate depth. The handrail can cause splinters I'm not saying this is what is wrong with the staircase, just giving examples of what could be wrong.

So then somebody complains to the local government that this "dangerous" staircase exists, and the government does nothing about it. Somebody else comes along and is injured while using this staircase, and they argue that they were injured because the staircase wasn't up to code, then they argue that the city is liable because they did nothing about the faulty staircase after it was brought to the city's attention.

Jews, man.

Those look like some pretty shitty stairs tbqh.

If I was rich as fuck I would keep trolling the city by building stairs and other projects that the city keeps inflating the costs of. I would keep doing this just to inflame the citizenry.

Anyone else wish they were billionaires if only to troll governments and individuals?

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>>134328095
Statists, everyone.

This thread is the final argument against faggot socialst government worshippers

/pol/ has won the meme war against the statist faggots and is now full ancap/libertarian. Here's to the top quality freedom loving memes we have coming ahead boys, pol just evolved to the final redpill stage

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>>134327121
Nobody fucking cares about canadian local news. You got the weather next?

>>134329152
>then they argue that the city is liable because they did nothing about the faulty staircase after it was brought to the city's attention.

Well aren't they liable if this was the case?

>>134327121
>65 posts
>no archive
Where is our autistic Norwegian friend?

http://archive.is/2UUWJ

>>134327342

yes it would happen

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>>134329206
>trolling the rules
say now anon thats dangerous thinking, you might fall on 47 bullets accidentally

>>134327121
Yeah, when the government has to work on something, The costs are retarded. Recently did a littl 1/4 mile stretch of road here in my city and posted a sign saying the cost was 9 million dollars...

>>134329355

Na. You use pawns to do your work. Mexicans would work perfectly for this scenario.

>>134327121
that gaurd rail is super shitty t b h

>>134329152
This is what the guy should have done:
1) buy the property from the city
2) build the fucking stairs
3) put up a sign saying "private property, use stairs at YOUR OWN RISK you dumb bitches"

>>134327121
so, can anyone explain to me why they justify these absurd costs for a set of stairs?

I get it has to be "up to code" and all that, but how the fuck does that make something like this cost 100,000 buckyboos?

>>134329137
for $10,000
then there's the politician's cut for choosing your company before the others, that's $30,000 more, then there's your cut because committing a crime is serious business and you want some, that would be another $25,000

i'm not an expert or even an intermediate, but it looks like there's spindles in the centre of the stairs and not the outside.

why?

>>134329486

>Buy a small piece of park property (assuming that even piece them out like that, which they don't) to build a stairs

What the fuck did you just write?

>>134327641
Doesnt look like he had the chance to finish it.

>>134328282
>textbooks
>needing more input and effort than any of the blue ones except maybe clothing
the difference is clearly that government plays a major part in all the red ones you autistic cuck

>>134328699
> So you see X is wrong because under the current circumstances Y, clearly incident Z would happen, which invalidates the position of X indefinitely.

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Shitty looking stairs desu

I appreciate the effort this man went to to make the access safer with stairs.

I appreciate the initiative to solve a problem.

It is an improvement over nothing.

But, it is clearly an amateurish job.
The wood will rot sitting in the dirt.
The steps are not supported at the ends, so structurally weak.
The hand rail is shit.

Please take these issues into account if you are planning an anarcho community improvement.

>>134329584
(((regulators, inspectors, lawyers)))

>>134327938

No. For that price he did an excellent job.

Invested money 100% worthwile invested.

Very different with a 65'000 stairs... where about 64000-63500 of it is completely wasted.

>>134328282
>software and cellphone service is automated

>>134329727

In all fairness though. Are the stairs worse than the uneven hill going down to the park? Somebody could just as easily fall down that if not more so.

I have never fell off stairs before no matter how shitty but I have definitely tripped on uneven ground once or twice.

>>134329851
?
The stairs aren't even fucking level

>>134329659
Those are called the stringers, that's what the actual tread gets mounted too.

>>134328730
I could pay a few mexicans a hundred bucks to do this.

>>134329727
I just realised, it looks like he is slightly afraid of his own stairs collapsing kek

>>134329217
so to speak.

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>Local park doesn't have a slide
>Ask for slide
>It'll take a couple thousand
>Go to park and weld metal sheets together and propen it up with wood planks
>Government comes and say it's unsafe and needs to be taken down
WTF THOUGHT THIS WAS AMERICA

>>134329912
The initial investment for cell towers has been paid off, and programming has become more streamlined thanks to technology.
Indian codemonkeys are pretty much automation since all they do is copy and paste premade working parts together.

>>134329964

U didnt understand what i wrote there, obviously. Read again.

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>>134329727
Those uneven handrails.

Bloogels my burrgels.

>>134329651
not like it works here. you can order a company of a pool of competitors to make certain jobs. if it exceeds a scpecific sum, you have to make an open contract documents and the sheepest who applies does the job.

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shouldn't it be more like this? move the spindles outwards?

or did he not do that because the ground is too uneven?

either way it looks like fucking shit, which is too bad

i'm all for telling the government to fuck off and doing it ourselves, but this is a really bad way to start out.

if this is what we'd have all over then the government probably has the right to tell us to fuck off.

at least make it a 2k $ job, shit.

>>134327121
All governments are like this. Guy i know quoted for a government job doing some excavation work. He quoted 10k and they said it was too low and to win the job he would have to raise the price. The australian government has 'Q build' a government contracter that does all government building. They charge insain prices, most of the time double or more than the actual cost and the work is always sub par and needs constant maintenance work. Its why im so against socialism, without healthy competition everything becomes shit. See china.

>>134328761

yes. props to him. he saw something positive that needed to be done, and took it upon himself to do it.if more people had that mentality, the world would be a hell of a lot different.

not to mention, there were no stairs there before. without his intervention there would still be no stairs there. the stairs are shit and likely a deathtrap, but anybody who doesnt want to use them could just not use them, as they would have done prior to him building them.

>>134330256
>if this is what we'd have all over
Literally the ancaps dream

>>134329851
>worthwile invested.
It is useless, in fact: it has to be removed. I would even give the fucker the removal bill for this shit job

>>134329736

>anarcho anything
>complain when someone does a thing

k y s

>>134327121
>company hires you
>several companies collude to pay $2 an hour only to workers
>you have to take it or else you get fired
>government says they can't do it
>you end up receiving the money you are entitled to
When did you realize that government is fundamentally necessary ?

>>134330098

I am in my 30's and the local park play area had exactly that. The whole park swingsets, slides, etc were built by a couple old dudes. It wasn't pretty but they donated their time and resources. It stood for 60 years... kids probably got a few splinters here and there but nothing big happened.

The new monstrosity they replaced it with costs tens of thousands of dollars and is already falling apart. It burned down once and was rebuilt to an even shittier standard.

Gotta love local and state government.

>>134327121
the government will get sued when it breaks no wonder they want to remove it.

>>134327342
In Lithuania if you tried to sue people who did stairs like this, you would get laughed at

>>134327121

Welcome to bureaucracy. Where you have to pay the government money for every little thing you do.

>want to cut hair for a living? You need to pay the state to get a license for that
>Oh you want to build a house? Pay the state for permits, and make sure you only use the materials that they allow or they will tear it down
>want to keep driving your car next year?
Better pay the state for registration fees.

>>134330256
>if this is what we'd have all over
A world with this ugly civilian made shit would be the wet dream for ancaps.

>>134330520

Couldn't the government just as easily be sued by having no stairs at all and someone tripping down the hill? Clearly the need for stairs has been well documented beforehand.

>7/20/17
>The day every last motherfucker on /pol/ revealed how they've always been expert critics on carpentry, landscaping, architecture, and engineering

>>134327638
If people could do things themselves it would remove the need for bureaucrats.

Government is primarily concerned with making sure there is always a government, not with helping people.

>>134330403

Spoke like a true nanny state faggot.

>>134327342
How does that work? The government can't be responsible for a structure they didn't build. If i trip in the woods i can't sue the government.

The stairs are uneeded! they are not even on a park path,they are rather on one of those people made short cuts between the parking lot or road(notice the guard rail?) baka whos mans is this?

>>134327121
Actually according to Codes in most US municipalities they need to be ramps for Handicapped Access. I do not know it that is the case in Cuckada. But yes your basic premise is correct, in that government is useless, especially when it comes to getting things done at a reasonable price.

>>134330676
You don't need to be an expert to know those stairs look shit

>>134330520
the governement will get sued regardless even if they made it, so what's the point?

>>134330606
>want to keep driving your car next year?
>Better pay the state for registration fees.
That makes sense though. Cars are fucking horrible for everything they touch. They're a nightmare to infrastructure.

>>134327121
This is not surprising these days, especially for such a 'diverse' nation as Leafland.

the handrail gets funnier the longer you look

he had to have a fucking saw.

what the FUCK

fucking old people need to be gassed

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>>134330782
This it's how our parks usually looks like because of our lack of mexicans.

>>134330650
Well, they can say "It was a muddy hill, dummy. You shouldn't have been climbing it in the first place. You have no legal obligation to do so".

>>134330759
It works if the government is aware of it and does nothing. Thats why they have those stairs cordoned off while they are waiting to be removed

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If he was smart he'd have painted it rainbow colored and said it was to represent the plight of the steps the LGBT community needs to go through to be accepted in society.

He'd be getting a merit medal and full funding, what a dumb racist rural / suburban retard

>>134330572
Pretty much in any country besides burger- and leafland

>>134327641
urban monkey detected. get out in nature once in a while. you dont need a fucking gold and marble staircases to make traversing a small ledge.
the only problem would be if you city rats came out there and somehow got hurt in the staircases, but desu you should fucking die then being the most useless human being in existence.

>>134327121
STATISTS UTTERLY BTFO

>>134330428
>One company realises that if it pays more it can choose the best workers
>secretly pays more
>has advantage
>everyone else gets fucked
>oliopoly broken
When did you realize that the government doesn't need to do shit if the market is free.

>>134330722
>everyone starts building unprofessional shit because it's sheep and progressive
Let's start community stamp books for every faggot who does any shit and then you can exchange that stamps for some other shit of other retards

>>134330977
It's toronto
The only white people left are old fuckers
Maybe a 30% white city

>>134330913

What? No. If it very well was a public park the city would have an obligation to make ease of access. Reading about this particular case it looks like there was obviously some need.

>>134331043
*cheap

>>134330759

Stop shaming the flag.

If the government knows about unsafe conditions in a public park, and it knows people go there, then it becomes the govs responsibility to SHUT IT DOWN.

That's why the tape is there.

The tape will probably save them from lawsuit. If the govt warns you not to do something then they are usually safe.

>>134331097
To be honest that wood would be expensive anywhere else.

>>134330804
i honestly don't think they look like shit. i've been to state and national parks and campgrounds with stairs that look just like that, maybe not as nice. They're not perfect sure, and they could be improved but what do you people expect? A gilded marble escalator?

>>134329736
>>134329486
>>134329137
>>134328928
>>134328887
>>134327596
>>134327938


> Implying you wpuld spend 65000 for a simple stair yourself.

Why are ppl so absolutely retarded ?

I want a libertarian ancap country NOW !

I suggest we all immigrate to south afriga, in masses that will shift the demografic to white majority, n then we make that beautifol spot of the planet great again

!!!

Im serious w this.
We just need enough ancaps to move there

>>134330870
holy shit I just noticed that the railings are joined to the fucking steps, and that's it

>>134330852
Yes fuck cars.

Here's a thought: if you can't walk somewhere, you don't need to go there.

if everybody followed this rule, communities would blossom almost overnight.

few exceptions can be made (such as medical stuff, transport of finished goods, natural disasters issues, agricultural transport, etc)

driving from the community where you live to the community to where you work serves to ensure that nobody actually has any genuine community

>>134331089
That still wouldn't make it their fault if some dipshit fell down a muddy hill. You can clearly still get to the park, it just takes more time than this short cut. Use your brain, dummy.

>>134327121
of course, how else will the politicians embezzle money to their family and friends.

>planning application fuckup
>breach of planning
>COUNCIL wants to remove it
OH NO GET RID OF THE GUBBERMENTZ!!! THEY'RE SO EBIL!!!!!!

>>134331035
explain to me then, if its a secret how can workers find out?

>>134327121

handrail posts should be anchored in ground.

F

>>134330676
You don't have to be an expert to see this is poor work. You're not a home owner, are you? Nothing against you, I wouldn't have been able to tell the difference until a few years of maintaining my own home.

>>134331291
>if you can't walk somewhere, you don't need to go there.
It's not so black and white.
I own an electric bike, and use a combo that and the bus. The issue lies with fat people, who are the most greedy and inconsiderate people on the road.

>>134330292
I don't know Au, but this is probably pretty sensible from the contractors pov because they get legally jerked around afterwards about the money. It's private guys choosing to work with gov. Obviously it's gonna be retarded

>>134331291
niggers are the literal issue though. Planners won't admit it, most white suburbanites wouldn't admit it; but it's really a huge aspect of how our infrastructure is organized and why public transportation sucks

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>>134331263
Holy shit hahaha

Guess thats what you get when an old man and a homeless person build stairs

>>134330804
Yeah because everyone knows the purpose of stairs is to look good.

all you fucking idiots criticizing the quality of the stairs forget that he made the stairs 120x the price LESS than what the government was asking for which only shows how fucking worthless canada is

>>134331291
>average commute to just work is 15 miles
>America is spread out as fuck, unlike countries
>if you can't walk someone you don't need it
how stupid are you?

>>134330872
More like a lack of community pride. Are Chileans this lazy that they will not even try to keep a place for their kids to play cleaned up? We have to clean up trash at many of our parks because of the Mexicans, and blacks not using the garbage cans that are like two steps from where they drop it.

>>134331628
I mean they look shit. Shit. The stairs are shit anon

>>134330292

Literaly my experience

>>134331130
What about a national park, if i get mauled by a bear can i sue the government because they knew there was bears in the woods?

>>134327893
If they kill themselves, they win....

>>134331130
>someone removes the tape
>oldfag comes along, doesn't see the tape because someone removed it, trips, breaks hip
>still sues the city because "WHY DIDN'T YOU DO ANYTHING!?"
>lawyer takes pictures of scene with no tape

It's almost like people are just looking for a reason to sue other people, hmm..

>>134327342

By this retarded logic, if there are no stairs there and the government knows about it, then why can't I sue them if I trip?

You people need to admit to yourselves that government is just a fucking retarded idea.

>>134331801
If they didn't take reasonable steps to warn people

>>134331255
>not knowing prices
to be fair, 65k is a joke. if you want to build stairs there I guess you need to invest like 10k if you make this out of concrete and solid handrails plus a completely new building land improvement. this doesn't even seem like a valid path directly behind the fencing.
15k I assume is realistic

>>134330403

> because the dirtfold before was the better solution.

Buy yourself a brain, fucking statist slavemaggot

>>134331801

Nope, there are plenty of warnings saying "you go into the woods at your own risk fgt".

t. I live near the rockies and there are bears.

>>134331864
what constitutes REASONABLE, who gets to say what it is reasonable, how is that denoted? i don't sign a waiver to enter a national park so there's no admission to following to "rules"

>>134331672
you're retarded, and I can tell you're a shill.

all of the things you greentexted are the result of a lack of community.

>>134331942
It unironically was better

>>134331255
I'm down. Isn't Switzerland pretty much the only country in europe where people aren't complete nanny state faggots? Y'all seem more libertarian than the rest of Europe whenever I run into Swiss on vacation here (not often but still happens).

>>134331942
this is 18+ board, Urs

>>134327342
It could happen in $65,000 stairs, so it doesn't matter anyway.
also what would acap society would do in this situation?

those stairs look fine. Every comment ITT is the fantasy of a unsocial-neet who doesnt even go to parks let alone walks down stairs.

>>134330435
>tens of thousands of dollars

Hundrets of thousands or millions to be realistic there.

>>134332036
>what constitutes REASONABLE, who gets to say what it is reasonable, how is that denoted?

Well that is what lawyers often argue about anon

>>134327121
>When did you realize that government is fundamentally useless ?

When I was about 12.

>>134332036

>who gets to say what it is reasonable, how is that denoted?

good question, the answer is lawyers and judge and jury.

That's why people have to SUE, as opposed to just receiving an automatic payment when they snap their shit up.

>>134331864
underrated

>>134331291
>if you can't walk somewhere, you don't need to go there

fuck your agenda 21 kikery

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>>134332164
So a couple of years ago

Guys the point is that 65k for stairs is fucking retarded not that his stairs are what the park should have had. Holy shit why is /pol/ so stupid?

>>134331655
He did a pretty bad job for 150 dollars.
I could have done better with that budget.

How the fuck are you supposed to get your mobility scooter down that shit?

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>>134327121
Govt controlled by nigger communists like you are... free market competition with people like neighborhood construction dude is the key. Free and rational nationalist society, not nigger jew anarchy!

they look like dogshit.
$10,000(20,000 loonies) could get you concrete stairs with metal rails.
Stairs are by nature not handicap accessible.

>>134332133
so, we still end up going to court and it's more than likely the government has to settle because "XYZ handicap / impairment / lack of signage / i'm retarded and can't read" and everyone loses because your tax dollars are spent on garbage like this.

Sounds kinda gay.

>>134328187
Haha faggot 12 year old show ur flag

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>>134332331
kek

>>134332036
>>134331856

You should know that I am not the dictator of the world and convincing me that the system is unjust isn't going to change the system.

I'm telling you how the world works, not how it ought to work.

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>>134332276
Go back to the pub you chav twat.

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>>134331910
That's fucking retarded. I could have a mason in to do that staircase by hand with real stone for 3 grand max and it would be beautiful too.

Pick related is all the material for a 1400Sq.Ft. town home. Foundation out to the siding. No plumbing or electrical though.

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Ann the statist slavemaggots in this thread.

Afraid of a stair

Wow ... just wow

>>134332280
No the argument in the OP was that government was fundamentally useless, presumably he was talking specifically about regulations etc.
>>134332399
hmm well then maybe everyone should sign a waiver like you suggested. Realistically its just people being greedy and trying to game the system

Had the same happen at my local DNR Range.
>Local enthusiasts want to improve the shitty old benches and add covers
>Nope.jpg
>Licensed contractor offers to extend the range to make room for an additional 8 benches if he can write it off on taxes
>nope.jpg

Government sucks dick.

>>134332034
Okay, what if i get stabbed by a homeless man living in the public park. If the homeless man is technically a resident of the park they are responsible for it.

Also you can't put up signs warning for stabbings hobos as that would be insensitive.

>>134331545
>>134331608
>>134331672

out of curiosity who do you work for? CIA? real or just a sock puppet? I can tell you are not just the average poster and most definitely have an agenda

everybody else, take note. I make a suggestion, he immediately tells me it wont work because of fat people and blacks. yes, yes, those are the issues.

you guys are really bad at this btw

>>134332399

That's roughly how it works, yeah.

The court is biased against intelligent people too, unfortunately. Smart people probably have a much more difficult time convincing the court that they were too stupid to read a sign or evaluate risk than retards.

>>134332597
The OP is also stupid. You can build a house for 65k, stairs should not cost anywhere close to that much dosh.

All the statist slavemaggots in this thread.

Afraid of a stair

Wow ... just wow

>>134332634
>the homeless man is technically a resident of the park

what are you talking about lmao

>>134327121
now 65k for a stairset is ridiculous, but those stairs look really shitty and unsafe and i see why the government wants to remove them. imagine if someone took down the tape, no one will think that's not made by the government. and then some idiot dies on them, and bum government get sued.

>>134332203
KEK I struck a nerve

so you're JIDF, eh?

what do you guys use? I have been told by somebody I trust that the sockpuppeting software available these days is INSANE. you don't seem like a sock puppet though, I think youre doing it all manually.

qubes?

fraudfox?

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>>134332579
Pic related, it's my job faggots

>>134332530
convincing people the system is unjust is exactly how you change the system, you dumb goon. Thank god you're not dictator of the world.

$38,000 duck ramps

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>>134327121
OY VEY THOSE STAIRS DON'T MEET THE REGULATIONS, GOY! WHERE IS YOUR WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE RAMP AND ELEVATOR???

>>134327121
I know this guy was just trying to prove a point but those stairs are going to have to get torn down, they're just fucking awful. You could snap the fucking steps by walking too close to their edges, that top "platform" looks totally unsecured, the railing is a joke and only on one side when there should be a railing on both on an incline like that, the bottom "steps" are boxes filled with gravel that will wash away in the rain and erosion will probably make the steps unusable in a few years time anyway.

I'm glad someone is trying to make a point here, as $65,000 minimum is a disgusting estimate and waste of taxpayer money, but these steps are so fucking shitty and low-effort it almost makes me take the side of the state on this one.

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>>134332641
A car is a shit ton of metal moving at a high speed. It's inherently bad for anything it's on.
Fat people are bad people because the same things that made them fat also make them impulsive hedonists who are unable to grasp consequences.

>>134327638
>There's a small abandoned lot collecting garbage
>City does nothing for years (NYC)
>It would be illegal for me to enter, clean it, and plant some flowers and shrubs and a wooden bench or two, and maintain it, out of my own time and pocket money
>I would have to pay to get a permit for the city to pay someone else to clean and plant things there and the process could take a year or more

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All the statist slavemaggots in this thread.

Afraid of a stair

Wow ... just wow...

there's a shitty set of stairs near me
the government put up a sign saying "climb these stairs on your own risk"
boom, problem solved.
this is in denmark though

>>134332634

Hmm, depending on the situation, there could potentially be a lawsuit there.

But in general the government isn't going to be responsible for the actions of citizens.

Be careful what you wish for -- if you start saying it's the gov's fault every time someone gets stabbed then they're gonna install knife bins and shit.

>>134327121
The problem here is liability. Those stairs don't have a proper foundation. There are so many jackasses that will abuse this and sue the city for such stairs. This is why it costs $65,000.

And before anyone claims this is only an "American" thing, it happens also in Europe and Canada. The difference is, the US has more lawyers and made legal matters a huge business.

If anything, blame lawyers. Quite possibly, we may need to put lawyers in death camps to control the population, otherwise they will be the downfall of our society.

>>134333053

This exactly

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>>134331858
>You people need to admit to yourselves that government is just a fucking retarded idea.

No only government that pays out too much for thing that the common people pay much less for that are up to standards. This is merely a case of someone showing that government is a drain at its current size, and structure.

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>>134332579
>foundation out of the siding
>made by some chinks as black labor
>same price as official ordered confected concrete stairs + stainless steel handrailing

>>134332971

You are a fucking retard who just learned what a lawyer does about 5 minutes ago.

Are you fucking 12?

>>134333109
Are homeless people citizens if they don't pay taxes and live outside the system?

>>134333125
Or we could just elect a guy who wants to get rid of the crybaby laws and regulations to castrate the lawyers professions.

ALL THOSE STATIST SLAVEMAGGOTS !

PATHEEEEEETIC !!!

>>134333172
haha go figure the memeflag is a total faggot.

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>>134333303

You should look up the definition of a citizen. Even better if you look at your country's specific charter of human rights.

If you live in a developed country though, paying taxes is not a prerequisite for citizenship.

>>134332579
Anything civic related that includes the city will involve an architect and a professional engineer.

Also, anything public-works involves legal and risk analysis.

That $3000 ends up being $65,000 really fast.

Yes, I build stuff too.

>>134333399

How ironic, since u are the statist slavemaggot here.

Shill harder, nufag

>>134327820
>upcoming financial crisis
I love how people continue to meme this. There will not be a financial crisis so bad that there are people going hungry or rioting in the streets. Not under the banking system and economic policy we have in place. If there is a collapse so bad that it makes people starve, it was planned as long as it happens under the current system. Sure, some people may lose their homes and investments, however they will have a roof, food, television, and a sweet new phone. Not to mention a sweet brand new entry level car they can be proud of as long as they have a steady ~40hr/week job to back up the credit they'll need...

If our economy got so bad that people were starving, then our Federal Reserve would simply get a fatass loan from the World Bank and pump America up with as much stimulus as it needs until everyone is fat and happy again. They just need everyone working and keeping the gears oiled while being content, while they make you then accept that same currency for your property, minerals, companies, and every other resource on this planet.

tl;dr economic crisis won't ever get bad enough for people to chimp out. If it did, it was because it was orchestrated or the people are finally fed up and revolting.

>>134333358

Ah yeah I thought your hostility was unfounded. Take a hike jidf

>>134333163
What the fuck are you trying to say.

All I did was show you can build a house for less than that stair quote.

>>134333576
Every house built requires an architect and an engineer too my friend.

>>134333030
like I said, you're really bad at this.

green = you, normal = me

>cars are bad
yes I agree fuck cars
>it's not so black and white, fat people are the problem
that's retarded
>cars are bad because fat people, who are also bad because of the reasons they got fat

had you gone the "cars are bad because they enable fatties" route I might have believed you

>>134331858
Here's the thing, people have sued the government for not "doing something".

I stand by my comment that lawyers need to be exterminated. We have too many of them.

>>134333576
>risk analysis.

Since in 1 out of 99999999999999 cases, someone COULD .....POTENTIALLY fall of the stairs.

Hey, why not instead invest all money on lottety ? Still better chances to not lose money

>>134328730
>those two shlomos yuckin it up behind them.

They probably pocketed $97k and then called up some paint company. Waste of resources these people.

>>134327342
problem is that multiple people had already fallen because of the lack of stairs in that spot, so the whole point of building stairs was to prevent people from falling and have easier access down the path.

Government's a scam, they inflate the estimates on purpose and laugh all the way to the bank. The city was irked by this because of how much of a contrast it was, and then the dipshit mayor is laughing nervously saying something like "well we all KNEW $65k was outrageous, but at the same time it will be significantly more than $550!" The jig is up, they'll probably come back with some $35k estimate next time and think that's somehow more justified.

Also ya you can sue pretty easily in Canada, we've had the thing where people sue McDonalds because their coffee is too hot or w/e, or slip on ice in front of Tim Hortons

>>134333785
So you're saying that architect and engineer did those drawings for you for less than $100? Because somehow I doubt that, because minimum I charge is $10,000 for even the simplest shit.

>>134331291
>if you can't walk somewhere, you don't need to go there.

Okay so international trade goes in the shitter and economies collapse? Yeah that sounds much more preferable than having to be inconvenienced to use a car.

>>134327121
ended up costing $550 – a far cry from the $65,000-$150,000 price tag the city had estimated for the job.
>$150,000

>>134333628
>riots won't happen until people see a reason to riot

any other brilliant insights you can bestow upon us?

>>134329736
>The wood will rot sitting in the dirt.
Treated wood will serve for years. Rail is fine.

Steps are disaster,. true.

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>>134328618
feels good man

>>134327121
Mayor probably has several contractor friends who were going to do it for 65k.

>>134334050
hey dipshit, try reading the sentence immediately following the one you're throwing a fit over

>>134329022
On one hand I fucking hate this, then on the other I'm thankful for it after seeing all of those Chinese webm's of chinks falling through escalators.

It sort of forces those doing the work to make sure that it won't fuck up, because it's their ass if it does.

>>134333933
>being 12
gtfo kid

Stairs? That's some prime real estate right there, one news story later and this is the most famous stair set in the world right now.

I'd turn it into a monumental housed escalator with overhead pa system wishing you a safe journey.

>>134333576
>risk analysis

Copy n paste from another similar mini stair project
Bill 100 bucks
Still huge net win

>>134333933

>1 out of 99999999999999

That would be the safest ever thing ever to happen in the history of everything, btw.

You're sperging out my dude.

>>134332641
are you a schizo? I work in public planning for the state of NJ, I know how and why things are structured the way they are the and how things got to this point. The summary is niggers. Which is kind of an oversimplification; it's niggers, poverty, varying social policies over the decades, and the car/gasoline and oil industry. Studies done since the end of the 19th century pointed towards suburbanization as the best way to statistically reduce crime in urban areas. The great migration only occurred at the beginning of this policy and was spurred by declining home values in urban centers as a result of early suburbanization and the integration of the smaller industrial centers into national and increasingly international spheres. Then came cars, which both reflected this mentality and were affordable through our expanded industrialization and mergers.

The "suburban" ideal has been a thing for over a hundred years so far and still has a massive hold in public policy. Basically, an urbanite and renter is considered a failed human; our policies are focused on trying to get as many home owners as possible even if it doesn't make sense. Former industrial centers are unofficially considered quarantine zones for the poor, drug addicts, and criminal elements; that's why so much state and federal funding goes into them and how our policies treat these areas.

I won't touch the idea of small villages or towns that are walkable on foot because it isn't my expertise, needless to say neo-urbanism has come and gone out of style over the last three decades; you may want to look into that

>>134327121
Welcome to Romania

>>134333576
The parasite class needs fed.

>>134327121

Looks like shit.

>>134333933
Unfortunately, that's the way it is. No matter what, the costs get thrown somewhere. In more civilized societies, if someone gets injured on city property, they usually blame themselves, city pays for medical anyways, maybe someone decides to make something better.

Unfortunately, we don't live in a civilized society anymore thanks to lawyers. You'll have some black lady blaming you for the death of her son because he was shot on your stairs. Obviously the stairs fault because it was built by a white man.

“We just can’t have people decide to go out to Home Depot and build a staircase in a park because that’s what they would like to have.”
- Mayor John Tory

>>134327525
Wait, you mean to tell me you leafs have Socialised Health Care, but no tort reform, or Federally Funded Compensatory Fund?

That's about as laughable as it gets.

>>134334348
Interesting view from public planning, I always like hearing/reading what they think over there.

>>134333933
>>134334272

Actually so here's the math lesson.

If the probability of an accident happening is "1 out of 99999999999999", you then estimate how much you're gonna get sued for.

Since you used such a ludicrous number, we can assume that it will cost a trillion dollars in medical bills.

Then you can actually multiply the trillion by the probability to get the estimated risk in dollars of the project:

1 trillion times "1 out of 99999999999999" = 1 penny.

That's a good number, the project would move ahead.

>>134327121
Those stairs look like some commie bullshit. Obviously, free-market stairs would be superior.

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>>134332641

But it's true though. Suburba sprawl literally exists because people didn't want to live next to niggers. They insane crime rates and gang violence of the last five decades has caused whites to self-segregate as much as possible.

I've lived my entire life to avoid having to be around niggers. From the career I've chosen and where I live to the friends I have. I want to live in a European civilization, not an African one.

>>134334021
I don't pay for plans retard.

>>134334269
It would work, but the third party companies that do these risk analysis for these places will charge the same price again, even if it is just copy and paste.

Shit, I do the same thing.

>>134334820
So the architect and engineer work for free? They also help you submit the plans to the city as well for free? Nice!

>>134327121

those stairs look like absolute shit

>>134334995
Where did I say anything like that?

All I ever said was the material cost for building a house is less than the cities quote for a staircase.

Customers supply me with plans that they wish to see constructed - which they have commissioned and payed for - and I tell them what they need to assemble it and how much it will cost.

You're arguing about something that was never part of what I mentioned.

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Yeah, this old faggot made some shitty stairs. We all got that. We're on the same page here. The point, you goddamn niggers, is that fucking stairs should not cost $65,000 goddamn dollars. They're literally ASSRAPING the taxpayers. Jesus Tittyfucking Christ, you autists.

>>134334820
>I don't pay

Said every dumb commie ever. This is why you'll never see anything more than what's required to keep you breathing until the next 'election'.

>>134327121
half of trumps books are about him taking over gov contracts theyve taken forever and went over budget on

>>134334995
>help you submit the plans to the city

I'd pay 20 bucks for that. 50 max or ill sure find another one who submits the mail to the right address for me.

All u slavemaggots n payslaves have zero clues of reality n how to organize n do things efficiently.

Man yall pathetic as fuck.

>>134328132
Shut up you black, transgendered city planner

Lol, an entire housing development was built by the government here for 43,000.

Of course we are talking about our codes, which is concrete blocks and laminate sheets

>>134334348
a city worker with an agenda. whoda thunk!

YOU are the problem, not the niggers, not the fat people. a nigger or a fat guy with a blue collar job that produces a tangible output is worth 10000 of you. don't get me wrong niggers and fat people contribute to it, make it worse, but people like YOU are the cause of this all.

the type who sit back and "plan", fuck everything up, and then expect more planning to revere the effects of their previous planning. wonder what the suggestion will be when that goes wrong too. I'll give you a hint: starts with a P and rhymes with Chelsea Manning

you should kick this to your supervisors: genetically engineers some dragons that can only be killed with swords, and let em loose on the world. it would give life a whole new luster

>>134327121
>be wheelchair fag
>enjoy rolling down the grassly knoll to the path
>faggot builds stairs
>no longer able to go to park :-(

>>134335225
they will always assrape taxpayers
that is the nature of a state

>>134333576
Well that baseline $65K will most likely be bid at $55K, and then some engineer will make a minor revision in the design, and the change order will make the stair/ramp $125K by the end of it. Which is why every company bids lower than the costs most of the time. I have yet to be on any project outside of a design build that has come in at the intial bid price. Also the city has lawyers on staff just for assessments, unless they are giving them extra pay to do their job, which would not surprise me in the least.

>>134335142
You look like absolute shit.
Go for a jog.

>>134335273
You're so fucking retarded it's not even funny.

My business involves customer supplying the plans to me, ergo I don't pay for them.

Here are the kinds of stairs that cost 65,000$, these are at the other end of the park.

>>134331255
ancaps once again proving themselves to be of subhuman intelligence.

>>134327938

Parks & Rec union faggot detected

>>134335225
That's the price of public property. On private property, they'd do the same job cheaper because any liability ultimately rests with the property owner and it would be on him to prove the builder fucked up terribly to escape that burden.

With the state, all bets are off. Even if you managed to successful sue them they'd simply cut off any future gibs and you'd still be screwed.

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>>134335376
A nigger in Switzerland?

Kudos to the builder.
Yet at the same time those are some shit quality stairs. Lol
Fuckin leafs

>>134327121
>Not usable if you are in a wheelchair
0/10 would not step on

>>134335524
>>134335615
65k is a fair price in this case, for a public building oc.

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>>134328095
>fuck freedom and liberty
Saying that is equivalent to saying "fuck the notion that I own myself. Slavery's awesome!"

You fucking people, I swear

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>>134335615
Umm I don't see an ADA-compatible ramp of slope no greater than 1:12 slope and width of at least 36 inches. I'm sorry, but we're going to have to dismantle these stairs for not following the regulations. Taking it down will cost $19,999.95, plus tip.

>>134327121
Well it looks like shit

>>134327121
Those are some goddamn ugly looking "stairs" - like a mongoloid made them

>>134329691
You have clearly never wrote a textbook, let alone a good one. It takes years to do it.

>>134336144
why are you falling for it?
that bait is more roughshod than those stairs...

>>134328618
kek

>>134327638
>people can't improve their local community with their own money
Because then people would realize they do not need an inefficient bureaucracy to do everything for them.

If tax money were collected and used locally, or even privately, infinitely higher degree of efficiency could be achieved. But that would mean the state giving in some power, to whom it is so desperately addicted.

>>134335560
ancaps are probably two SDs above the GP, wtf you talkin bout

Reminder:

https://bloodandsoil.org/
https://thelionrises.org/

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>>134327121
Aint nobody buildin stairs in this town 'less Gino and I wet our beaks a lil capisce?

>>134327121
That's the most half-assed stairway I ever saw.

But I agree, governments charge way too mcuh for this shit. It's makework.

>>134327596
stairs don't cost 65,000

>>134327525
>b.. bu, it's America's fault
Kill yourself you piece of shit cuckold.

>>134332829
>See that bird's nest? That's my mailbox.

>>134332579
As a rule of thumb, material is usually about a third of the total cost at most in construction. So figure that plus mechanical, electrical, plumbing work plus profit and you're already looking at 200k total without the developer taking profit or the cost of land. What's the asking price on the unit?

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>>134327121
The quality is fine. these are stairs for a trail in the woods not a building. If you have ever been hiking you would now the (((government's))) hiking trail infrastructure is much worse. Such as a plank resting on 2 logs to cross a stream

>>134331702
Really? You're gonna blame the Chilean tax payer for this? They're already putting up the money to have this park maintained. They've done their part.

He would have made his point much better spending $1000 and building stairs that weren't complete shit.

>>134335408
nice larping, good to see that you think you can build a new society without taking in account basic economics or public sentiment. In ten years, you will still have nothing to show for all your rhetoric about how things should be rather than how they are. Your lashing out and accusing people of being FBI or whatever makes me certain that you have some sort of mental illness; especially lashing out at and about urban planners when you're basically talking about urban planning but without having any knowledge of it

>>134336135
If you really think about it you'll realize how correct I am.

fighting dragons to protect your community doesnt sound half bad.

don't get me wrong, constantly relocating in order to escape the hordes of Africans that Jews import, force you to pay for, and rile up does sound like a totally fulfilling life, but I think we can do better.

>>134336899
It actually sold before it was finished, sold for $210,000 was listed at $195,000

>>134327121
Put a sign next to stairs "use stairs at own risk" in English and mandarin. Problem solved.

>>134337441
>and mandarin

That's pretty cheeky coming from a fucking Mongolian

>>134337040
you're right - I'm sure humans 100,000 years ago made sure to take into consideration how many foreign tribesmen to subsidize and house, as well as the optimal commute time to their job at some other tribe. without doing so shit just couldnt have worked out.

I never called anybody FBI. I highly doubt the FBI shills 4chan.

maybe I'm mentally ill. I live in a city though, which from the sounds of things is how it's supposed to work out. thanks urban planners.

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>>134327121
not to suck state dick but this set of stairs is against a lot of the codes set forth by the IBC. these stairs are as dangerous as stairs really can be in a lot of senses. I get that he did it for very cheap ... but it wouldn't have cost much more to do it properly. you need risers on the stairs first of all, a second hand rail, and both rails need to be continuous. for the steppes there should be no side containment and the medium needs to fill to the riser on the next stair. the treads can not vary in width and the riser cannot vary in height. the rails are anchored to a board that has no support on the outsides of the treads, also the treads do not have support on the outside. with time they will 100% seesaw if you will and render the tread frame useless. this shit looks like a fucking 10 year old built it.

>>134337831
You don't need two handrails in Canada on a staircase that narrow.

>>134327992
>That Pic...

I wonder if anyone that likes to mention the Necronomicon have actually seen a real copy. I have seen a very old copy and its just a dossier of demons, a collection of curses and potion recipes. Curiously the book was compiled and copied time and again by christian monks during the dark ages.

>>134337755
I meet three black "entrepreneurs" a day looking for public subsidization that are as good of critical thinkers as you. Tell me, what do you do? I want to hear you make something up, because I can tell you're a NEET