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I'm quite intrigued by this whole Identitarian movement,

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I'm quite intrigued by this whole Identitarian movement, but something really bothers me. How are they supposed to promote their relative nations' cultures if they unify themselves under a LARP tier shitty symbol without any other connection? Wouldn't it be easier to use at least an own symbol/flag in addition to the lambda thing?
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>>134319805
I agree, a new symbol is needed

I vote Europa on Zeus
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>>134319805
vroom vrooom vrooom
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>>134320306
That's the exact opposite of what I'd be rooting for. I don't want a "unified" Europe with a LARPing sign, I want a Europe of nations, with their own symbols.

>>134320419
kek'd
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The Chi Rho symbol would be better.
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Wow, Overwatch sure has gotten popular. I wish I could know what people saw in it but I just don't feel like it's worth paying full price for an FPS that lacks a story driven single player campaign.

Thanks for the thread sweetie but this isn't really political.
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>>134320623
>playing modern FPS for the single player campaign
what kind of cuck are you
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I think the "unity" schtick was a handout from the Frogs to us Krauts.

The Frogs know they're toast like we are and vice-versa re; the Muzzies. I am sure someone from Germany told the Frogs if its a "Germany only thing" they'll get crucified and the Frogs agreed to help us out so we both don't turn into a caliphate.

I imagine when it becomes acceptable for all of us to reveal our power levels it will also split the IB movements into their various countries.
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>>134319805
it's a great symbol. simple and easy to remember
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>>134320735
New Order had a great campaign, you know minus the whole "Nazis are the bad guys" thing.
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>>134320278
I've never taken the wild shilling accusations on /pol/ seriously, but with this constant barrage of anti-Lauren shite I have to wonder. What exactly is the problem you idiots have with her?
>inb4 thirsty beta
>inb4 blind worship
>inb4 no JQ
I'm definitely not a beta, and have a girlfriend. I don;t worship Lauren; I don't think she's nearly as intelligent as, for example, Black Pigeon Speaks or even Sargon, and she's generally not a particularly insightful social commentator. It's obvious that 90% of her popularity is due to being a girl, but why should that be a problem? It doesn't matter that she doesn't address the JQ, if she did, her career would likely tank. If she's distributing medium-tier redpills, who cares how she baits the trap? Once you get redpilled, there's no going back - only further down the rabbit hole. People who start with Sargon might move on to Lauren and end up reading Jewpill images on /pol/.
>she's a Jew!
Her 23andme results didn't reveal any Jewish blood. Even if you think she's lying, why should it matter? We hate the Jews for their nefarious ideas and schemes to destroy Western Civ and the white race, not because of their innate biology. If she is working to preserve Western Civ and the white race, what has her innate biology have to do with it?
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>>134320839
That's a good argument actually. But one thing that repeals a lot of people is the whole "Identitarian" thing without going deeper into the respective country's culture. It's fine to protest all day long against demographic replacement and mudslimes (and I support this), but they're forgetting their roots imho.

Some friends of mine would like to join their movement and create one in our country (we don't have one here atm), but they don't like the whole "European" thing like if we were a unified race like Whites, Blacks, or other races are are in the US.

>>134320995
It had indeed a good campaign, I'll give you that. I didn't really care about the bad nazis stick though, Hitler should have killed muslims and niggers instead of going full retard on Western Slavs.
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>>134319805
You mean like each nation coming up with distinctive symbols to promote their culture? Yeah that would be quite neat

I hate to use videa gaemz as an example but, Civ V has some neat faction symbols. Pic related for the Portuguese gets my dick hard every time
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>>134319805
Redpills on Identitarian movement:

1. Started by a alt-lite youth wing of a globalist french political party
2. Backed by EU PAC's and globalists
3. Hired a former liberal communications grad who Larped as a Libertarian to get a job post-grad
4. Not sure how many members are actually conservative and who are paid protestors
5. Not clear platform, vague "nationalism" without policy gimmick
6. Not sure who is the backbone of this movement, a bunch of 23 year olds do not staff, charter and publish professional psyop like these clowns do
7. Very little success in effecting change in EU, appears to be a honeypot, literally & figuratively for nationalist angst in EU
8. Actual budget does not match their vintage, sophistication & projects. Clearly getting funding from someplace else. Case in point, their paid astrotruf threads on /Pol / Facebook / Google + and indie sites.
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>>134319805
Set up a /Generation Identity General/ already!
And start getting some memes out
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>>134322382
Indeed some nice symbols there, I never played Civ so I didn't know.

>>134322897
Sadly they're the only ones who are remotely doing something. I really appreciate your redpills anon, but we need to either use the Identitarians in our favour or gather around and create a whole new movement together.
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>>134323636
The general never works because of people hating on the movement and some Italian guy constantly shitposting his own opinion and calling everyone a shill
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Apparently Martin Sellner's Defend Europe ship has been detained
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>>134321311
tl;dr
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>>134321311

http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/filename/1499040316534/
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/filename/1498394290090/
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/filename/1497954737534/
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/filename/1499713504765/
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/filename/totally%20not%20a%20jew/

Judge for yourself, what kind of normal person would post like this? It's either shilling or an esoteric mental illness.
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>>134322382
I've always been fond of Odin's Horn, and i could imagine that other danes are too, considering it's a common tattoo here.
It's just a shame that anything viking related is seen as "white supremacy" outside of Scandinavia
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>>134327338
It really isn't though, at least in Belgium and much of Roman Europe people generally associate these kind of symbols with metal culture or beo paganism.
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I fully support therm. They find much appreciation from the local people but nobody wants to admit it. No, they are not perfect but how can you judge them because of their symbol when they did so much for evropa. They are the only ones who actually give a fuck and go to the streets. Unlike those blatant brown-pill-mongoloids that live in their own little world, they want to maintain a good image. What the fuck is /pols/ problem with them!? I dont get it..
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>>134320560
>Chi Rho
Might as well use a star of david.
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>>134319805
If everyone that does something IRL is a LARPer for you, you're a cunt and a basement dweller.
Neck yourself, faggot.
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>>134322897
>what is a citation
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>>134319805
Symbols are what you're worried about? Whos really the larper here?
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>>134327945
I also support their ideas mostly, it's just their imagery and the promoting of a"unified European culture" that bothers me. I respect every European country for their history, society and culture, but lumping all of us together just to promote muh whiteness is more of an American thing. Spaniards and Ukrainians haven't got much in common except for being on the same continent. That's why I suggested using at least something other than only a lambda symbol, to at least suggest each culture's uniqueness.

>What the fuck is /pols/ problem with them!? I dont get it..
They're promoting a unified European culture as I just said, and according to /pol/ they're civic nationalists, which equals to traitors.
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>>134328579
Nobody here cares more about the Polish immigrant than he does about the Somali one. Both are strangers to our nation and the Identitarian movement doesn't give an answer to those specific problems.
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>>134322897

>Bloc Identitaire and GRECE are alt-lite or globalist
>Don't even know where you got this
>Everyone is controlled op but me goy, you can trust me

Okay lad, just because some of the slower /pol/acks will fall for uncited innuendo doesn't mean we all will
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They should make a mix of GI and the noncucked version of the Action Française
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>>134320560
This
Chi ro is literally God Tier
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>Attack commences in 60 seconds
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>>134328708
I think that the idea is that the people of europe need to stand together in times like these.
Everyone for themselves cannot change anything.
We got the world against us.
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>>134322897
>>2042. It's been 30 years since the first plane crash. I think back on that day, of the men I lost, of the call I made. I was young, cocky, naive. Ignorant of what was to come. It seems almost funny, how little we knew, how we still dared to hope. People try to rebuild today, yeah, try to rebuild the agency but I think we know that its dead, we're all dead. Dr. Pavel is a distant memory... did he exist at all? Shit... Bane I last saw at what remains of Washington D.C. but that was 15 years ago at least. We locked eyed for a moment and kept walking, there's nothing left to say. He didn't look as big as he once did. The conversation ended when my men brought him on board. But still my mind goes back to that airfield, where I stood, waiting for him. Back then I said I was CIA. Heh...now I'm all that's left of it.
Here's your (you)
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That's my problem with Identity Evropa. The fuck is that triangle supposed to even mean? Choose a rune with meaning like National Alliance did.
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>>134322382
might give you an even bigger boner if I tell you that that represents the 5 wounds of Jesus Christ, also connected to the Battle of Ourique where the first king of Portugal beat a larger muslim force, on the day of Santiago "Matamouros" the patron saint of killing muslims

Many muslims have been slain by the Portuguese since then, no other country on Earth represents better the fight against Islam
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>>134319805

I always think of this.
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>>134329063
>Team comp of Junkrat, Genji, Hanzo, Pharah and Lucio
>You ask teammates to switch
>Hanzo switches to Widow
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>>134321510

It'll come.

I'd really like to see the movements split into Latin, Germanic and Slavic units.

Let everyone look out for themselves and their own but I do like their "No more borther wars" idea.
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>>134329063
>picks Hanzo
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>>134329128
I understand. It's a respectable idea, but in times of a failing European Union and rising populism this doesn't attract many people, at least from what I see. Regionalism is very strong nowadays. I think the Identitarian movement should be a more "lose" network between patriotic organisations to keep contact, do activities together and define a line. A new movement with a random sign promoting just Europe alienites people.
But again, it's a good idea as such, not hating on them.

>>134329384
I hope so.
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>>134328708

Nothing you've said actually describes identitarianism though, saying European countries need to work together to get rid of non-Europeans isn't the same as saying all Europeans are the same, they don't promote a "unified European culture", they promote solidarity in the face of a shared enemy

>they're civic nationalists

This is just being misinformed
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>>134321510
We have Identity Evropa.
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>>134319805
You're really trying to divide them, aren't you Shlomo?
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>>134319805
>shitty symbol
It's not tho, Spartans were the original fascists.
They're being cheeky af.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYMbyneRer4
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>Identity politics.

I hope you guys don't do this.
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Symbol is shit.
Here's a new flag of European unification.
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>>134329448
Sounds reasonable. At least groups should have like a common symbol in their flags though. To maintain a look of allegiance.

Never the less, they are worth supporting. Just check out the "devend europe" thing they have going on atm. They raised over 100k to get a ship and crew to fend of NGOs in front of the Lybian waters.
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>>134319805
Just fly it besides the national flag, problem solved
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>>134320623
Not sure if bait or american education.
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Generation Identity presents all of us with a great opportunity. We can infiltrate this group, gain positions of influence and leadership within the group, and use the network they have between various countries to further our goals. We should all join in our respective countries.

I wholeheartedly agree that they shouldn't be pushing for European unity with tacit nationalism, but rather Explicit nationalism with tacit European/white fraternity. Each respective group should mold itself to fit the culture of its home country and create a symbol that represents this
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>>134329311
>HL3 will not be released
>instead its our actual future
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>>134329738
I suppose nu-scotland does deserve to be crowned with the european cuck circlet
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>>134319805

Then carry your own flag when you go to a rally, nobody will complain. I personally think the symbol is cool and it's meaningful as a symbol of the west fighting off foreign invasion, even though the Spartans at Thermopylae didn't actually paint their shields like that.

What they want is for every European nation to eventually become nationalists and independent, so that Europe is composed of cooperating but also competing and separate sovereign nations. I can get behind that
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The lambda is a reference to the brave 300 Spartans fighting off an army of sandniggers who tried to invade Europe.
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>>134319805
>in addition
Then you greatly complicate production, and damage recognition
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>>134330203
I am really feeling that summer heat
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>>134330035
Please No:(
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>>134319805
They are all for different indentities and languages in their respective nations. Don't be such an autist.
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>>134327945

By /pol/'s standards if Hitler or Evola was born again today they would be pozzed and controlled opposition shills
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>>134328708
I see it as more like how the Greeks worked. There was a baseline Greek culture, but each city had it's unique identity and were (most of the time) independent.

Europe is the same. Nations fight and bicker, but Europeans should always side with each other of non-euros.
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>>134329671

This guys got some good videos.
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>>134324626
It's wrong. Leftists set up a trap, telling Egyptians authorities the ship carried weapons. It was controlled by Egyptian cops, but everything was clear and the ship is on its way.
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>>134327977
Prepare to be thrown in a gas chamber subversive faggot
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>>134322897
Stop lying, please.
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>>134328708
>the promoting of a"unified European culture"

Where did you hear that? We are one people, but we have many cultures, many particularisms and we want to protect that. A French isn't a German or a Pole, yet they're all Europeans with common roots and common ennemies. We don't want to merge it all, just to awake what our people lack: a racial conciousness.
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Europe united before under the common banner of Christendom when the Ottomans were attacking. Or before that when the Crusaders went to meet the enemy, or before THAT when Charles Martel unified smaller tribes to stop the Islamic horde.
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Literal faggots
Here's what happened on their last "demo" in Berlin. All this is true and can easily be found on their facebook page:
>No people from the national socalist party or other "racists" groups were allowed
>No flags or banners allowed except the ones the IB hands out
>YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SHOUT WHAT YOU WANT, THE IB LITERALLY(!) SAID TO YOU WHAT YOU ARE ALLOWED TO SHOUT DURING THE MARCH. Anyone who didn't follow was removed
>Same for people who didnt dress according to the IB
Just a bunch of cucks, feeling edgy for being "right wing".
Imagine Richard Spencer starting a movement with a bunch of virgins.
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>>134331831
Thermopylae, Salamine, Tours/Poitiers, Crusades, Las Navas de Tolosa, Lepanto, Vienna... We will unite once more.
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>>134331883

Exactly, that looks like there is a genuine person behind those posts. The links I posted looks like someone just spamming /pol/ with the same pics, saying nothing, responding to no one.
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>>134332239
obviously you are a paid shill, your handlers demand you put some elbow grease into it idiot
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Also right now they are praising the murderer and traitor Goerdeler on facebook
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>>134329738
Fuck you, brussels lapdog.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wEUi4qlOQk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmJu-zdwhm4
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>>134321311
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>>134331999

Good thing they put up some standards, I can imagine fat /pol/ neckbeards waddling around screaming like subhuman retards. Not everyone has to be a 1488 faggot. Redpilling takes time.
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>>134333041
where's Kike Enoch on that list?
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>>134328843
how does an australian know about the GRECE
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>>134333169
I don't know anything about him
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>>134332826
And who would pay me to do such a thing? Lauren? lmao

>>134333041
Lauren Southern is not Jewish at all. That pic is garbage.
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>>134331999

Why would they voluntarily and openly associate themselves with NPD 88ers their message already hard enough to spread as is
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>>134333391
the founder of TheRightStuff, he was exposed as having a Jewish, crossdressing wife.

He travels around with Richard Spencer now.
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>>134333426
RICED
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>>134330035
top zozzle
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>>134333265

Alain de Benoist is required reading for ethnats
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>>134331999
Its their demo and their rules.
If you dont like it, organize one on your own.
If you want to get the people on your side, dont use nazi symbols and slogans.
If its about your austistic "but muh opinion and muh free speach.." think if that EVER worked out in our favor and then fuck off.
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>>134333067
Spoken like a true cuck
>be on a peaceful demonstration against open boarders and illegal immigrants
>hold a banner with "defend our country from rapefugees"
>gets removed
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>>134333604

We really have to learn to pick our enemies. Just because someone doesn't conform to your exact ideosyncratic beliefs and standards of behaviour doesn't mean you can't find common cause with them. Great statesmen understand this
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>>134333966
dude, his entire persona was built around holocaust jokes and (((echoes)))

and it turns out he's married to his professed enemy?
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>>134334134
Well just because I hate niggers as a group doesn't mean I would be hostile towards Thomas Sowell
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>>134333901

So what brave acts have you done for the master race? Shitposting on /pol/ doesn't count.

Could it be... nothing?
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>>134319805
I am fine with the color scheme.
Would prefer this one in Austria though.
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>>134331999
>Just a bunch of cucks, feeling edgy for being "right wing".
>he actually thinks non-impulsive middle-class working people with something to lose are the larpers
>he hasn't realized the old right is a rotten carcass being poked with sticks by leftist

I'm sorry for you. I was there, and it was, for the most part, a great and orderly demo. The skinhead and neo-nazi movements were destined to fail. Who in their right mind thinks shaving their hair and getting meme tattoos contributes to a societal change? In the ovens you go.
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>>134334459
And you have done nothing your life besides jerking of to some Jew whore.
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If we ever want to accomplish something, we have to learnt to think pragmatic. Thinking on an ideological basis can only result in defeat as there is always something to nitpick.
We have to work with what shows the best results for the cause.
Do you think the Saudis financed Hillarys campaign because they want a strong woman as the US president and because they are such feminists!? No, because it was whats best for their agenda. There is never the 100% correct group to support. Start supporting the group that shows the best results instead of waiting for someone who is "perfect". Guess what, the perfect movement will never come! Work with what works best and learn to think pragmatic.
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>>134334786
Are you allowed to carry national flags though, along with the IB ones? Not talking about any NPD cancer-Reichflagge bearer, just normal German flags because it's all about it.
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>>134335146
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>>134334786
>>134333846
So you are ok with a movement to demonize a party or other movements, even if they have the exact same agenda than your chosen party (AfD), just for likes on facebook? Wake up, the IB is nothing but a instrument to split the right even more.
>Yes anon, follow us and we will change this country for the better. But do not mention immigrant crimes or jews or any other problematic topics, kay ^_^?
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>>134335265
Of course you're allowed to have your national or regional flag during identitarian protests

>>134335959
>demonize
How? Did they publicly speak bad about other mouvements or did they just ask them to stop or leave quietly?
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>>134335146

Come on Moshe, show your country flag. I so wonder what it could be? I can hear the tiny hands rubbing together all the way from here...
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Reminder to join these guys instead:

https://thelionrises.org
https://bloodandsoil.org/
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>>134335265
For this demo we were instructed to carry IB Flags only, since it was supposed to be media-effective.

I know after this demo people were speaking about using not only the German flag, but also French, Czech etc, (we had a few visitors) so that might change in the future. For political actions the German flag is allowed of course.

When there are too many different flags flying, like in PEGIDA, you get the impression of a spontaneous get-together. Our goal was to demonstrate that there is a coordinated patriotic movement in Germany.
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>>134319805

The problem so many shills have with the Identitarian movement is that it actually does unapologetic and useful public influence campaigns doesn't follow the fantasy (((Rebel Media))) and Jack Posobiec have created a la
>(((Laura Loomer))) and Posobiec planning to get arrested and cash money in for "U R ALL GERBILS" at Shakespeare play
>(((Rebel Media))) having a constant focus on bashing german, austrian and even french history because they're jews
>MFW i feel sad for americans falling for these pseudo-pro-western media outlets and personalities

Have you seen the latest from Loomer? Quick rundown
>some based maga guy got hit in the face
>(((Loomer))) and (((Rebel))) spam it for over a week
>(((Loomer))) goes to a Doctor (((Pober))) to the face of that based maga guy fixed
>(((Pober))) created a twitter account as based maga doctor
>(((Loomer))) knows (((Pober))) since a long time and used his services for lip enhancement etc.

Also a weird thing about these 2 in linkage to (((Rebel))) is that:
>Pober is an inexistant name and he probably changed it
>Loomer as well
So what were the real last names?
Remember how she came out of nowhere and being pushed as hell? Yeah. We should dig into this, i work as historical researcher including jewish german, ashkenazim, sephardic spanish and jewish names from families who went to the USA and either changed it their or it was accidentally changed because at Ellis Island it was miswritten
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>>134331999
And that's exactly why it looks like a genuine movement with mass support from normal people, instead of some stupid NPD rally that no-one gives a shit about.
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If they protect our white european heritage, they are welcome.
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>>134336225
I was just wondering, since they mostly use their own symbols.

>>134336420
I see. Having other European flags could be a good idea if there are visitors from those countries and you want to promote a united European reaction against the current cuckery.
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>>134334134
Lel
Here is his 23 and me
Read and weep shill
https://you.23andme.com/published/reports/e42bb060324046c1/?share_id=3bea40b7c76b4de8
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>>134335959
>So you are ok with a movement to demonize a party or other movements
If said party or movements hurt the cause, then why support them? Its always about how you bring a topic across. If you demand demand to immediately remove kebap from germany, guess how realistic that sounds. Rome wasnt built in a day.

Those Nazi groups couldnt achieve in 40+ years what the IB achieved in less than 5. I understand that you are butthurt about that.

No common citicen will join your cause if you scream "Nationalsozialismus jetzt!" in their face. They are conviced by reason and by peaceful actions that make a change.

Or do the gentlemen in this picture look trustworthy and reasonable to you?
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>>134336937
Um, Sweetie...
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>>134337081
Yeah blame the IB for not wanting to be associated with those guys..
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>>134337081

Where are they now lad
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>>134337081

>comparing the UK that was on the allied side with any country from the axis side
Never change britbong, never change
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>>134336225
>Did they publicly speak bad about other mouvements or did they just ask them to stop or leave quietly?
Yes
>Wir haben als Identitäre Bewegung eine klare Positionierung zu Personen und Strukturen der alten Rechten und wünschen entsprechende Kreise nicht auf unserer Demonstration. NPD, Die Rechte, Dritter Weg oder andere Kameradschaftsstrukturen dürfen sich von unserer Demonstration ausgeladen fühlen.
Translation: We as the IB have a strict position on persons and movements of the old right do not want these people on our protest. NPD, The Right, The 3rd Way or other "Kameradschaften" (hard to translate, just another word for movements, but with a bad undertone in this context) are not invited.
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>>134335959
NPD/BND Employee: Hallo Patriotic Comrades!
Supporters: Woah, who's that?
IB: Uh...hi
NPD/BND Employee: We are most impressed by your doings and the support that you have gathered for OUR movement!
Supporters: What?
IB: Uh...yeah, about that...
NPD/BND Employee: Togezzer ve vill gas ze joos, yes? Ahahahaha!
Supporters: Aw man, I'm here because I'm worried about immigration, not because I'm a fucking nazi conspiracy theorist
IB: Uh...NPD...could you either keep it down or just get lost, please? People think that your a dick, and you'll get us in trouble with the law
NPD/BND Employee: Demonisation!
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>>134337599

I tell you that as former BND officer, aligning with the NPD or Die Rechte (not sure about 3. Weg) would be extremly retarded as both are and have been full of V-Leute since over 20 years
>pic related:
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>>134323636
That sounds like a nice /gig/.
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>>134337717

Damn i didn't even need to post anything if i had seen yours earlier, but yes, exactly
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>>134335959
>So you are ok with a movement to demonize a party or other movements
At which point did the IM demonize AfD? It's known there are strong overlaps in active members.

Which party shouldn't you demonize at this point? CDU? SPD? NPD? LINKE?

>even if they have the exact same agenda than your chosen party (AfD), just for likes on facebook?
Which party are you speaking of? NPD? Dritter Weg? These groups are containment parties for the lower class, which hasn't realized that the dream of 20th century fascism is long over.

I'm legitimately curious why you believe the old right has any right to exist anymore. The old right has abandoned high culture and western values and is therefore just as degenerate as every leftist movement that sprung from the 68ers.
I am following Melanie Dittmer, who has seperated from the IM and created her own group "Identitarian Action". She's currently riding in the wake of our movement, tagging her pretentious Instagram with #counterculture #redsdontread and #identitarian.

When I found a "lecture" by her on youtube, it was clear that she did not understand what the new right strives to accomplish. She believes the IM is a camouflaged body working towards fascism. Even if it is, she does an awful job at disguising it herself by mentioning her thoughts in a public youtube video.

It's obvious that the IM distances itself from figures like her, because she is a dim-witted amateur, which endanger any agenda they come in contact with.
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>>134321311
>a fucking leaf posing over a backwards hanging us flag
holy shit, I fucking hate this jewish cunt
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>>134321311
/pol/ has been progressively getting shilled non stop by nigger loving jew faggots.

Any time a young white cute girl is making videos red pilling the youth, they grt attacked in here relentlessly.
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>>134319805
I love how it fits the SIG "Legion" emblem, tempted to buy one of these just for the giggles.
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>>134338281
What's worse, hanging a US flag backwards or lying about people being Jewish on an anime imageboard?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGJkf4BLxTw
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>>134322382
b-baka belgium senpai
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>>134322897
>nationalism
>Identitarian

you didn't even research them.
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ID is committing a big mistake by not cooperating in secrete with far right wing groups (the more extreme the better), organizing marches on the same day where they can stand out as the reasonable. ID needs a better controlled opposition, and this can just happen by cooperating, and earning the trust of established right wing groups by granting them shadow government posts in the ID
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>>134324626
https://twitter.com/DefendEuropeID/status/888079190729400320

they claim it's false but MT still shows the "c-star" in the suez.
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>>134338369

That's because people like Cernovich, Jack Posobiec and others constantly use /pol/ to get money and also send many of their fans on here

>pic related
>"oy vey! he's the grandson of a NAZI OCCUPATHION THURVIVOR"
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>>134326715
The dude doesn't even put the effort in to write a comment beside his overused reaction image.
If he's not a shill he's some pathetic MGTOW.
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>>134329357
you forgot to put mcree and tracer in the starting 6
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>>134322897
>Leaf
>Discard
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>>134321311
It's simple, Ludwig. Lauren Southern has lately been getting more and more explicitly white nationalist, talking about the Great Replacement and things like that.

Now /pol/ contains two groups that object to that. The first is obviously the shills, but second and more important is the horde of non-whites that have exposed themselves time and time again and are threatened by the rising white consciousness.

It's the same reason there are so many anti-Richard Spencer threads and images all the time. They can't abide by anyone being so explicitly pro-white and actually having a large platform.

Anyone who disagrees with me is a shitskin or shill.
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>>134338512
literal oven dodger
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>>134338624
>ID is committing a big mistake by not cooperating in secrete with far right wing groups
NOO Anon, you are wrong: Just llok what these (((anons)))>>134337717
>>134337835
>>134337953
>>134336937
Have posted. They are right. We can't let our precious movement be contained by nazist and faczist!!!1! GO IB AND MAKE THE HIPSTER BEARD GREAT AGAIN ^^
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>>134321311
Everyone badmouthing LS is a commie who is terrified of her and also unironically thinks all of /pol/ are unironical nazis and hence unironically believes that the best strategy is to larp as an unironical nazi making really shitty memes that fail every time.

And anyone commenting on her looks, as irrelevant that is, is either a commie as above, or a pathetic fat fedora virgin who wanks himself asleep every night crying. Besides LS is legally a man so everyone 'male' commenting her looks is a faggot.

Now get back on the topic: the ID's need to meme themselves up better. They are too dank to be taken as being ironical. It is unbecoming.
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>>134338644
It's only actualized every once a week. "Position Received: 2017-07-19 05:42 UTC "

Egyptians obviously found nothing, unless real trouble the ship has passed Suez during midday. Now the next big question is Italy. Will they try to prevent the ship entering Catania?
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>>134328708
>the promoting of a"unified European culture" that bothers me.

They see multiple layers in our identity. They see a shared european one, a national one and a regional one. They are not for the promotion of one over the other.

Read about ethnopluralism.
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>>134339089

Wrong.
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>>134327338
The valknut is better
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vgNwIYQUks

Southern interviews Sellner
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>>134339154
A true sign of Arschweh right here.
If you care about european culture, your people and our way of life, than stop harming those who stand for it.
If the reputation of your former Waffenverband and edgy runes are more important for you than your people, keep doing what you are doing.
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>>134320839
Kraut is spot on. You need the froggies to develop the rhetoric since your people seem embarrased to even wave your national flag at this stage.
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>>134339262
>barely survived
>left on their own volition

pick one
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>>134339089
so 2004
GTFO shill and tell David he can suck my dick, after I cut off his head.
>>134339154
Let the jews be jew.
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>>134339154
They accept people with any ideology but let's be honest, neonazis and nazi larpers only damage our cause.
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>>134339632
>Had business stolen
>Lost everything
Learn to read, nigger.
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>>134339632
Exactly, they were not in any danger because they were not Jews. Danish Jews were ferried to Sweden anyway.
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>>134339317
Honestly, the Kolovrat is the best symbol.
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>>134339262
dude people are trolling you at this point, literally waiting for you to reply "she's not jewish". quit eating up the bait bro
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>>134339856
It depends on how they interact with the movement, and if normies including reporters are able to see it. Common symbolism to a grade produces debate material, which should be the goal, to get the left completely out of the discourse and cut off their supply with young brainwashed faggots. I rather have an open discussion about which of the right wings is better than if we should be more lefties or centre lefties
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>>134340027
I wish I could just ignore it, but gullible newfags might believe the bait if no one debunks it.
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>>134337835
BND used to be full of former nazis. Are right wing views besides muh law & order still common there?

>>134339223
Usually marinetraffic is more up to date. AIS updates are send in quite short intervals normally.

Any ETA on the actual start of the mission.
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>>134319805
yeah i always thought people should just wave their own national flag. makes it belong to the people who wave it and respect it.
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>>134340220
Am I looking at the wrong thing? Where can I find AIS?

>>134340220
>Any ETA on the actual start of the mission.

No because it all depends about Italy. We don't want to announce a date until we're not sure we will be free to move.
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>>134340193
newfags generally don't give a shit about e-celebs
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>>134319805
Conservative oriented people are drown to simple symbolism and message. I don't know why, it happens unrelated to IQ and education level.
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>>134323636
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>>134329384
This. Let folks belong to their respective groups but the "x group isn't white" or going to war and killing each other is fucking stupid.
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>>134339154
>We can't let our precious movement be contained by nazist and faczist!!!1!

I personally don't care really, it's all damage control at this point. But you haven't been able to give a single counter argument nor have you been able to list any successful attempts from the old right from changing politics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu_Fz-8zn7c
Were you there anon? I'm almost certain.
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>>134340586
MT is just a website that collects and archives AIS data, connects it to other data sources and provides a fancy api and user interface.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_identification_system

You can turn it off. NGOs are accused of doing this so they dont get caught in libyan territorial waters. They claim it's just connection difficulties.
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Bros, anyone who is actually doing something about this shot is useful.. its difficult to A) convince someone theres something wrong B)help them discover what that is, and what they should do to correct it/not contribute. C) cure the mental spiritual and physical disease that is neoMarxism and D) avoid the traps, shills and pitfalls that litter the way for them … having a decently navigated organization thats aimed in the right direction and organizing people and red pilling new people every day… very welcome in my estimation.
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>>134341543
I guess the captain already knows about this and it could only be suspicious if we do such a thing, but I will share the tip. Thank you!
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>>134319805
Spartan shields, anon. Learn some history. Tbh, the logo sucks, but there's least some history behind it.
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/r/outoftheloop here but why is everyone so hyped about Half Life all of a sudden? Did they announce 3?
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>>134341851
Why do you think it sucks?
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>>134333426
>implying she didn't fake those results
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>>134323636
...the Kraut/pol/ will return and will have the usual Identitarian update from the "Großdeutschland" (German/Austrian) chapters.
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Is talk about biological group differences banned among Identitarians or is it just not their focus to talk about these things?
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>>134319805
>LARP
anyone who uses that faggy word is a goddamn underage piece of kike shit
>yes yes goy dont believe in anything
>dont take yourself too seriously goy wouldnt want some teenager on the net saying the word LARP now would you
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>>134341588
>lefs in charge of potics
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>>134342191
There's no way a group could get good press by talking publicly about such things. But Jared Taylor came to an identitarian convention something like a decade ago, so that gives you a hint.
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>>134332951
national action 2.0

how long till they start carrying around pics of "based scotsman" like Adolf Hitler or Benito Mussolini?
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>>134336670
>X-files theme in major key
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTRXOnbuJVM
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>>134342191
No it's not. People in the groups I know are openly discussing these topics. It's just that we agreed on sticking to the core issues.
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>>134319805
>Yes Goyim, sharing a symbol which represents your commonality as a race and people is silly. Make your own symbol goy.
>Don't unify in a lossely pan European fashion goy.

Next you will say
>Muh bad optics

Eat shit, Nigger.
JEWS ARE NOT WHITE. You are a chameleon piece of shit, with a mutilated cock, curly nigger hair.
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>>134341469
>Were you there anon? I'm almost certain.
Would that be a bad thing, Samir?
>thousands of people you share a common taste in music going to a concert of legal bands and enjoy their music peacefully
>this is bad according to you, the (((media))) and cucks
How much do they pay you?
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>>134334664
How is the media in Austria about the Identitarians?
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>>134342165
unironic-nazi-larping commie infiltrator wearing a semen stained fedora detected
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>>134329048

"Zionism" What's the context? This means different things at different times in history. The state of Israel?
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>>134339856
>They accept people with any ideology
Except they don't and they silence everyone who speaks "radically" about the current mass imigration.
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>>134342866
I don't know about the overall media coverage (I guess it's bad since MSM lean left pretty much everywhere in the west) but Martin made it to prime time national TV: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2guj6OB_So
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>>134341851
We all know at this point that the lambda symbol comes from the Spartan shields. Doesn't change the fact that it doesn't represent anything at all in my opinion, other than "muh unified European identity". Read the thread.
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>>134340220

Yes, i only got in there through the post-war activities of one of my great grandfathers who left the BND in the 1960s but other relatives of mine including my uncle also went to the BND.

>pic related
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>>134342866
>MSM: "Sellner is a Nahtzee"
>Leftist Media: "Sellner is teh Hitler"
>Antifa: "Sellner must be kill" gets mugged by commie scum ... defends himself w/ pepper spray pistol
>Media: "Sellner on shooting spree in subway station"
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>>134343127
>it doesn't represent anything at all in my opinion, other than "muh unified European identity"

And I see you didnt read my answer about this claim >>134331601

About the choice of the lambda:

The Lambda was the first letter of Lacedaemonia, the land of Spartans. They fought with some other Greeks as 1.500 against the Persian emperor, Xerxes, and his army of 50.000. They braved the religious interdiction of not going to war during the sacred olympian times, met the invaders and held the Thermopylae pass for 3 days, giving enough time to the rest of Greece's cities so they could unite and ultimately repell the invasion. Spartans had a Lambda symbol on their shields. We use it as we believe it's now our time to make some sacrifices, money, friends, maybe a carreer or reputation, but all of this is nothing when compared to what we have to save: our land and our people.
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>>134333041

Where's your Canadian flag, faggot?
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>>134342107
It's just too abstract. I wished they had an entire Spartan warrior as their logo, that would tell something to most people. But this current logo just looks like some kind of IT service company, dull, abstract, unintriguing. It's not that I don't put my hopes in these guys, but the logo doesn't work.
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>>134343127
Actually it signifies the idealism to fight against overwhelming odds
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>>134343127
Look faggot, nobody linked an actual shield, so I did. Go deepthroat a knife.
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>>134342565
>>134342732
I understand that. Even with strong credentials as a academic in related field you can hit very hard when talking about these issues to a general audience.

IB Deutschland was my first political donation. I wish you great success.
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>>134343308
>Hitler: "Swastika is too abstract, I wish I had an entire aryan Druid Master as my party logo"

Good god, do you know nothing about propaganda and symbolism? The more abstract the better the mass appeal!
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>>134342866
>Lefty (Kurier, Standard, Profil, Falter)
Literal Nazi terrorists
>Cuckservatives (diePresse, TTZ, Salzburger Nachrichten)
Muäh Nazis, but not worse than AntiFa
>Populist (Krone, Heute, Österreich)
CLICKBAIT Alarm
>right wing (FPÖ Newspaper and unzensuriert.at)
Good boys doing the right thing
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>>134343112

In case you're Vlaanderen
>pic related
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>>134343308
I understand what you say, it's just that we had to choose: simple and easy to recognize/spread, or complicated and immediatly meaningful. The simpler a logo is, the better it is from a pure communication pov. Also, the meaning, albeit not easy to get, is good to us
>they held the Thermopylae pass for 3 days, giving enough time to the rest of Greece's cities so they could unite and ultimately repell the invasion. We use it as we believe it's now our time to make some sacrifices, money, friends, maybe a carreer or reputation, but all of this is nothing when compared to what we have to save: our land and our people.
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I always thought it was suppose to be the Overwatch symbol.
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>>134343287
I didn't say anything because I acknowledged it in other answers, friend, and thus had no need to give you a (you). That's why I told the Hungarian lad he should read the thread.

Also yeah nice history for the lambda sign, I already knew it, I still don't believe we need any kind of abstract symbol as the lowest common denominator for Europe. We already have them, every country has specific imagery. But again, I already debated this.

>>134343461
Do you also browse threads to tell people where the swastika comes from retard?
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>>134343583
The problem with the lambada is the Hollywood movie and Overwatch. The jokes write itself. I would like to see a more dynamic symbolism, maybe identifying different branches
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>(((civic))) nationalism
Why are we even discussing this? These faggots don't care about race. In 100 years they'll be a bunch of mulattos talking about how they're sharing a continent and culture with Napoleon.
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>>134342760
>Would that be a bad thing, Samir?
Obviously not, since they seem like really nice people. But it would reinforce my impression that you live in a bubble.

In a way the IM is more radical than the old right. The new right picks up what is left of western culture and strives to create a sustainable society. The old right parties in the weekends, masturbates to muh hess, listens to degenerate rock and goes back to wörk to complain on an anonymous pen-bending website like the good little cucks they are. The skinhead movement was never meant for anything else but edgy faggots.
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>>134321311
/r/socialism shilling
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>>134343880
>lambada
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>>134343813
kek ... some /pol/ack made it in there
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Are movements like this necessarily right-wing? I unironically class myself as an environmentalist left-wing liberal, and yet I agree with most if not all of what identitarians stand for.
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>>134343198
I laughed. I hope we laugh last.
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>>134343359
>Actually it signifies

Doesn't matter as only complete nerds would get it. That logo looks like yet another cryptonazi abstract boring thing. A meme has to be funny to catch. It has to have a potential of being used creatively so it can multiply and evolve. You must get the laughers with you. A circle with an upside down V in it is just uninspirational and cringy.
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>>134343911
Totally false. They are ethnonationalist.
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>>134343880
Dude, not going to happen!
GI exists since 4 years now.
They use the Lambda.
They WILL keep the Lambda.
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>>134343815
You should be choking by now on that knife. Flagless idiot.
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>>134343287
>Persian emperor, Xerxes, and his army of 50.000
Thats a pretty conservative estimate of Xerxes army size.. Herodotus stated that this army consisted of over two million men; modern scholars consider this to be an exaggeration and give estimates ranging from 70,000 to 300,000.
It was more than 300 Spartans as well, maybe as many as 5000 or more incl their reinforcements from Greek city states.
The point is that a small band of men stood up to a much larger invading force, in order to secure victory for their homelands..
When you consider the aims of Identitarian movement, its pretty apropos. We'll see if they are willing to lay down their lives… if shit continues the way it has,, many White Europeans may have to,
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>>134344296
How about pic related
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>>134319805
I'm still unsure as to what exactly identarianism is.

Is it white supremacy in a fancy coat like trad or christian identity? What is it?
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>>134344342
you got some weird obsession with phallus like objects, you should go check yourself kurva anyád.
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>>134343675

I know it's a nice reference to history, but 99% of Europeans have never seen a Spartan shield, only McDonald's and Coca-Cola logos. Need to think realistic.
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>>134344289
>ethnonationalists
Not exactly. Since it's the European thing, they identify as Ethnopluralists, which essentially grants every ethnicity their ancestoral region/country.
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>>134321311
>>134321311
Ignore shitposting faggots
Filter their faggot images like this >>134333041
If a fucking DNA test is not enough for a person why care what they think? If objective evidence is not enough for a person they don't belong on /pol/ they belong on /x/
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>>134344465
literally ... Y ?
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>>134344543
Faggot with no flag, no identity.
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>>134344289
Always funny to read this kind of damage control when half of their members in France have Italian surnames, just like FN members and the population in general. "Ethnopluralism" is just their way of dodging the question whether or not they're civic nationalists, otherwise they'd just have members in rural inbred Bretagne.
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>>134343574
Thank you, we'll do everything we can. I can swear to God your money will not be wasted. I've seen the many letters with small donations we receive in France. Regular people giving the few they can spare because they think we are worthy of carrying their hope. That was something, it struck me. We're trying our best in everything.

>>134343648
I'm French.

>>134343815
If you read me why didnt you answer where you heard that we were pushing "a unified european identity" and why are you not acknowledging the answers you've receive about this claim?

>>134343911
We're ethnonationalist and we don't hide about it.

>>134344423
About the persian army, I took low numbers to not give into some "omg did you see the ebin movie about Spartans xD" larping.
About the greek one, are you sure? I thought that was the initial force, but many Greeks left the battlefield before the fight began.
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>>134319805
We already have cultures and we know what they are, we just need to unite to fight a common enemy. The Jew.
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>>134343127
What does a goddamn SHIELD do?
What are the Greek Spartans known for?

You are stupid and clearly shilling against a growing movement.
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>>134344233
Delete this racemixing music.
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>>134344715
>calls me out for calling the lambda sign shitty LARPing without proper identity for the different European cultures
>at the same time calls me out for using a non-geographical flag
aren't you supposed to go to sleep, András
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>>134344791
Not only a shill, also a jerk.
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>>134344754
>Walle
>pic related
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Halting immigration is one thing, but there are already millions of arabs and africans in Europe and the Americas. They have a fuck ton of kids. This group considers repatriation of non-europeans too extreme, while its honestly the moderate option considering many are so sick of muslims that they wanna begin Holocaust 2: Electric Boogaloo
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>>134344681
was thinking about pic related.
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>>134329311
That's the first thing I thought too.
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>>134333041
the right wingers always failed since Hitler because they never united.
How pure do you wanna go?
You are loosing support with every step
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>>134344754
I already answered that question prior to your remark. I see why we should be together when it comes to bringing the invaders back, but I believe pushing an artificial European identity is American like shit trying to tell that Whites are Whites. I respect both Spain and the Ukraine, but saying they're the same culture just because they're both Whites and share a continent is ludicrous.
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>>134344906
Yeah, because you don't even stand for your country, just some faggot flag. And now you start bitching about identity.
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>>134340220
>>134343197

Also
>pic related what my great grandfather worked for before being recruited into the BND
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>>134344906
You're a shill. Swallow a cup of toothpicks you muslim loving pork fucker.
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>>134344296
>GI exists since 4 years now.
>They use the Lambda.
>They WILL keep the Lambda.
So. Four years and they still can't get it right.
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>>134345086
>This group considers repatriation of non-europeans too extreme
Where did you hear that?
The second part of the plan is to enable a remigration. We are exposing this idea since fifteen years already, we even published a book about it.
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>>134345093
If your peace means demographic displacement you can keep it. There is still time for you dumbass progressive to listen but its running out
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>>134344863
you happy now
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>>134345032
To stay on topic, the wallonian rexist had a great symbol
>pic related
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>>134322897
>leaf
DAY OF THE RAKE WHEN??
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>>134344721

How the fuck is an organization that only lets in whites "civic nationalist" you dweeb?
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>>134345221
>Mistaken the rune for tree of life with a bunch of stoned rich kids
Burger Education?!
On the other hand, maybe some stoned Hippies fall for it and get red pilled
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>>134345189
see >>134328833, >>134329448 and >>134336812, amerifat. Read the thread next time or resume your "is x White?" shill threads
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>>134345241
So your politics are purely selfish?
You're an identitarian just not a European one. Got it
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>>134319805
See as how they're a few years old and are launching a boat to stop people pushers bringing immigrants, I'd say it's a non fucking issue. They're doing more than 99% of groups with w h at could be considered better symbols. Its only LARPing of you're just playing.
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>>134344754
>I'm French.
Leon Degrelle. Read his book about the Eastern Front.
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>>134319805
>identity politics the movement
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>>134345129
>pushing an artificial European identity
>I respect both Spain and the Ukraine, but saying they're the same culture just because they're both Whites

You're a dense mofo aren't you? >>134331601
>Where did you hear that? We are one people, but we have many cultures, many particularisms and we want to protect that. A French isn't a German or a Pole, yet they're all Europeans with common roots and common ennemies. We don't want to merge it all, just to awake what our people lack: a racial conciousness.

>>134345199
GI is 5 yo, but the identitarian mouvement is 15. We started as "Bloc Identitaire".
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>>134321311
(((they))) are mad that Lauren Southern has been gravitating more and more towards white identity. A young, cute girl is dangerous to them. They need to be able to caricature white nationalists as evil men otherwise the mental conditioning might break. So they endlessly shill against her here because they're fucking afraid of what she might do. Especially since she's participating in stopping migrants coming into Italy now. Ironically their shilling is just making them obvious and therefore making us support Lauren more
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>>134345162
Can you translate for the Freiwillige?
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>>134328860
Action Francaise are cucked?
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>>134345432
Stop calling "whites only" anything else than civic nationalism you retard. We aren't the US, Whites aren't unified, if a Russian or Italian comes to my country he's a foreigner. It's civic nationalism letting them be part of our country.
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>>134344282

Yeah they should've made a pepe flag that would've been epic. It's not a meme it's a symbol, it's not supposed to be funny it's supposed to be immediately recognisable, that's why every logo is simple and abstract.
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they're united by being right wing white europeans
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>>134345738
They are non ironically civic nationalists. God and the King before everything else. But there's a lot of good guys, ethnonationalist aswell, in AF. It's just the mouvement that isn't.
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>>134336226

This has so many potential applications
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>>134345467
Wot? I'm a literal Nihilist looking for lulz. And most giving saltmine are lefties trying to extinguish the fire burning down their ideological house with some tax financed Latte Machiatos. To keep that fire burning and the saltmine giving, it needs more fuel, and the rise of the New European Right, looking at election years, and the rise of populist right movement is the perfect opportunity too throw some 9/11 Kerosene barrels into their houses on flames.
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>>134345791
Maybe not, but you're all European, ad they want to displace a collective you. Just because you're narrowing the scope down doesn't mean they won't. Its better to start a wholesale movement of Europe than a shit ton of splinter groups that won't coordinate with each other. At least they're actually doing something.
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>>134345536

Hey, my relatives took care of people like you and prevented anything they tried because just like today, most of you are filled with moles
>pic related is one example of KOMINTERN and socialist sympathizers of KOMINTERN being thwarted by the Gestapo from starting an event in the Ostmark
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>>134345791
Can we deal with the problem at hand first?
Kippers, Pedgida, Action Francaise, NF, Trump supporters, golden dawn should unite to deal with this bullshit in the Mediterranean
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>>134345588
Again, basically what anons like >>134345791
say. There's never been a "racial conciousness" in Europe because nobody considers anyone in Europe his "brother" just because they share the same skin colour or continent. We don't have common enemies, except for each one his own country, which can't be even considered as such.

People don't want this, at best a lose network like I mentioned before could help.>>134329448
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>>134345536
Typical /leftypol/ shill. The smart marxists in the 20's realised that economic marxism and the proletariat revolution will not happen in developed Europe so they decided to swim in cultural waters.
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>>134319805
>without any other connection
kys, nigger
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>>134345693

It's a Gestapo document in my inheritance in which the Gestapo in Berlin asks the Gestapo/Stapo in Frankfurt am Main, Hessen about a certain concentration camp inmate who is about to be released because he worked as Mole/Gestapo-Helper around Trier.
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>>134345588
>>134346236
I also want to add that this indeed is not the United States. People here don't gather themselves by race but rather by ethnicity or nationality.
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>>134346087
So you're just a faggot. Got it
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>>134331999
Stop being such a retard.

Autistic skinheads and cringey Nazis aren't what will shape the future. Nazism was rooted in its place in history it simply does not apply anymore, it is not a viable option. It succeeded because it was for its time, a bunch of retards advocating for a return to the Holy Roman Empire while dressed in home made knights armour wouldn't have faired well in 1920s Germany.

We need something for THIS generation and turning point in history and that is ethno nationalist Identitarianism.
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>>134346236
>I think the Identitarian movement should be a more "lose" network between patriotic organisations

This is why we have national and regional chapters, not just a big european org. Each is independant, and coordinated on big topics like overall ideology or actions like massive protests or the one with the boat.

>A new movement with a random sign promoting just Europe alienites people.

Absolutely not what we do, since we promote regional identities aswell. To rediscover your land, your terroir. Just as a French isn't a Pole, a Flemish isn't a Gascon.
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>>134346432
No you
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>>134346460
Which is exactly what the beginning of the NSDAP was. You are saying the same words that Hitler probably said in the 20's. All of the new right in post-1918 Germany was ethno-nationalist völkisch movements. I understand that you want to keep a good image but don't try to deny it.
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>>134346571
Do you guys ever get together irl? If so where?
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>>134345791

Point to me where GI is advocating for melding European countries together retard. They work together with other whites in Europe to push back against the brown hordes, that doesn't mean that when the hordes are defeated that everyone would live in some pan-European multiethnic state.
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>>134346588
You couldn't find a picture of a person pointing at the camera?
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>>134346236
>We don't have common enemies
I'm guessing you haven't been here very long

>Skin color
Anon, race is more than skin deep
>Never saw yourselves as brothers
Seeing yourself as white Europeans staring down the same barrel is good enough. Maybe it's time you actually did cultivate that mindset. You get get to America tier enrichment levels, that will become more apparent. At any rate, it's not like IE are even trying to say that we're all German or French. Each country has thier own chapter, united in a common goal.
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>>134346420
>People here don't gather themselves by race but rather by ethnicity or nationality.

This time will come. As Carl Jung said, "you know who you are because you know who you aren't".

Europeans used to only define themselves with nationalities and ethnies, but now that we're invaded by non-Europeans they start to realize who they look like too. Ethnopolitics will replace geopolitics. Soon, one will be closer to another European than to a "new German". It has already begun. We need to capitalize on this if we want to survive as a race.

>>134346683
You mean all european chapters? Pretty much every year, we have a week long summer camp with all nationalities (but not all members obviously, that would be too many people): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36cfUbDXUbg
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>>134330035
fucking valve did it again!
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>>134346236

Racial consciousness doesn't exist until it's threatened, Europeans didn't have a common enemy, now they do. Counter to what you claim, Europeans all get along much better with each other than with Africans and Arabs

>just because they share the same skin colour or continent

Race is biological, it isn't about sharing a skin colour it's about sharing a common ancestor and common spirit, the same as ethnic loyalty
but larger tent.
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>>134346571
Thank you for this answer, that's what I'm looking for. I didn't know you have regional chapters for example. This is what the big majority of people perceive, and I can't join the IM because there is none here and I'm not ethnically part of this country anyway.
>inb4 Mohammed
I'm a Catholic Western European.

Again lad, I'm not here to shill, I respect the movement and their ideas, they're the only ones doing anything right now. I just don't agree with how they expose their struggle.
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>>134346924
No in Belgium
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>>134346924
Also I want to add that the entire concept of "nationalities" is wrong and XVIII century concept. The idea of people united by a common ethnicity, religion and culture is much more old and will stay forever.
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sigh
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>>134346827
> Each country has thier own chapter, united in a common goal.

What do they do though? Buying a boat is all well and good but legal and financial support for shock troops would be nice.
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>>134346924
This is exactly how the US became degenerate though. First they started to except non-Anglo-Saxonic Northern Europeans, then Germans, then Irishmen, then Southern Europeans, then Eastern Europeans and then they smoothly opened their borders to everything that is non-white at all.
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>>134347015
What's your ethnicity then?
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>>134347311
It wasn't a progression it was a one off bill passed in the wake of a President being assassinated
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>>134347366
I'm Portuguese.
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>>134346668

Mostly true but you forget that it wasn't only ethno-nationalists and völkisch ideologues but even libertarians with a nationalist streak but love for capitalism like the
>https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wehrwolf_(Wehrverband)
>use googletranslate, the article is shit but gives you an idea about them
They joined together with national socialists, nationalists, simple patriots from the Reichswehr and fascist paramilitary because they all had in common one though, that communism and marxism are the bigges threats.
This is also why many of those nationalist libertarians ended up as NSDAP politicians and why quiet a few laws in the 3rd Reich were pretty libertarian.
Example:
>When you were owner of an "Erbhof" (a farm you inherited including land) you would be allowed to do whatever you want on that land and shoot intruders as well as deny any bitching police officers who would want to abuse their power to enter your territory. There was one case i have the documents about where a farmer shot 2 police officers in 1938 because they were on his land and tried to catch a chicken.
He was let go as these police men had no right to enter the property which had an "Erbhof" sign at the gates.
>pic related Some nationalist-libertarian Wehrwolf-militia items
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>>134347015
This is why I asked you where you hear this in my very first post, I wanted to know exactly what you believed to know and then explicit our real position. I agree we can be a bit opaque on some points, we have to get better in many ways. But we're just regular people with jobs or studying, without much money, just strong ideas and will. So it takes time. I'm glad I at least could clarify a few things with you.

>>134347178
In Belgium there's a chapter since 6 months, the leader lives in Ghent. They just started being numerous enough (25) to start doing real things. Are you Flemish or Wallon?

>>134347311
Different times, different struggles. Also, once again, we don't want to merge it all. We are strong because we are diverse. But we need to league once again, like we did so many times in the past. Tours, Las Navas de Tolosa, Crusades, Lepanto, Vienna. Our ancestors show the way.
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I main D.VA
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>>134347441
Of course it was a progression. Even the KKK didn't consider Italians white until the 1960s, when their Protestant white numbers started to stagnate the first time.
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>>134347563
Living in Deinze atm, orignially from Lokeren
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>>134347250
They stage protests (did a pretty cool banner referencing Martel), hand out flyers, they have summer camps that teaches various forms of martial arts, they do a lot of things. One of the few groups that are actually saying get off the internet and get active. The majority of thier donations come privately, there's no Soros type guy to fund them.
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>>134338624
GI does cooperate with Nazis and fascists. They work closely with CasaPound and even used their symbol for the Citadel bar. Their Czech branch was started by a group of National-Anarchists (weird I know but they were neo Nazis) largely. They work with Bloc Identitaire which has a number of reformed Skinheads.

They allow Nazis and Fascists to join or cooperate with Nazi and fascist orgs. However they do not allow anybody to look absurd while repping GIs symbols. Someone's past is past and if they fix themselves up they can join, but weirdos, hobbyists and skinheads cannot.
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>>134347311
That's not exactly true. It was fine until the 65 immigration act.
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>>134347311

Not exactly, first it was all "white men of good character", then it became "immigration to maintain the ethnic ratios held currently" then in 1965 it became a free for all. Same thing happened here and in Aus, our immigration target was 98% British until the 70's then all restrictions were dropped
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>>134347563
Well I guess we solved our misunderstanding then. Since you're Belgian I'd like to know what the IM position of Belgium is, since memes aside the nation arose thanks to Catholicism and anti-Dutchery but became less unified as soon as the French speaking elite tryied to erase other languages.
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>>134320278
hey look it's this antifa faggot once again
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>>134347678
If you're interested, contact generatie identiteit on Facebook or http://generatie-identiteit.com/

I'm French and not near Ghent, but maybe we'll meet someday?

>>134347755
>GI does cooperate with Nazis and fascists. They work closely with CasaPound and even used their symbol for the Citadel bar

This is wrong, and the Citadell logo isn't about Casa Pound but about the Citadel of Lille, built by Vauban.

>Someone's past is past and if they fix themselves up they can join, but weirdos, hobbyists and skinheads cannot.

This is true.

>>134347898
I'm French. Belgium is a mistake and failure. There are two very different people in this country, this cannot work.
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>>134347581

>Protestant group didn't like largely Catholic immigrants

Hmm wonder why that was
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>>134347798
>>134347863
You get what I'm saying guys, they first opened it a bit better to accomodate a more broad understanding of how the nation should look in a racial term and then dropped it altogether. I do know a shitload of French mulattoes promoting civic nationalism and mud politics like Françafrique, and I'm scared of that.
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>>134347755
http://www.visitlilles.com/userfiles/images/Patrimoine_culture/monuments/22032013-citadellelille.jpg

See? The Vauban Citadel with a lambda inside. But I understand your confusion, it looks like Casa Pound's logo.
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>>134347581
Who gives a shit what the KKK thought. They were always controlled opposition. Look up Albert Pike
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>>134345928
Gay, they had a cool aesthetic.
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>>134345093
an Algiz? You know that certain Futhark characters are outlawed in Germany? Especially those that were used by NSDAP organisations?

GI is a European movement. Modern Europe began in Greece, regardless of our megalithic prehistoric past.
The Lambda was chosen. The Lambda will stay.
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>>134347755

Also let me add that the GI is so far the only right-wing organisation since the 1960s that gets a lot of their funding from former axis WW2 veterans and/or their families, especially from Switzerland, Austria, Germany and even France.
How i know?
See: >>134337835
>pic unrelated
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>>134348100
>I'm French. Belgium is a mistake and failure. There are two very different people in this country, this cannot work.
I don't think so m8. The Spanish/Austrian Netherlands were pretty unified in terms of culture and still are imho. What pretty much made Belgium a non-country is the fact that their identity was based on their common religion that differentiated them from the Dutchies, and the lack of cultural ties with France other than broad linguistic similarities. With the rise of national states and the French speaking elite basically trying to kill Flemish (and virtually killing most of Walloon) identities Belgium peu à peu became the non-country people nowadays make fun of. I sincerely believe Belgians share a common identity that has been mudded because of mistakes and linguistic nationalism. Otherwise this country would be as united as Switzerland.
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>>134347441
Oh you gullible goyim actually believe this? Mazel tov read Culture of Critique.
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>>134329311
wow, when you see a lambda logo you think of a lambda logo?
AMAZING
you must be really really smart
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>>134348130

Yeah but they didn't is what I was saying, they tightened up immigration law from what was there before, the ratio immigration I believe was designed to form a new American ethnicity from the blend of Anglos, Germans and Nords. The Hart-Cellar act was instant, there wasn't a degradation of standards
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>>134347505
If that is all yours you have an amazing collection.
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>>134348584
Maybe. As a French freshly arrived there, I guess I don't know much about the country. But I've noticed Flemish and Wallons are really different, both in look and behaviour. Once I asked a guy if he was Belgian, he told me he was a proud Wallon. Same with Flemish. I don't have this common identity feeling, but once again maybe is it because I'm not from here? Looks like Wallons are more attached to Belgium that Flemish, probably because of what you said about the french speaking elite.
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>>134348720
Calling European non-white is just a divide and conquer tactic. Mass immigration hurts the working class so they are always against it, it was the job of organizations like the KKK to take that anger and valid complaint and make it racial
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>>134346996
>Europeans didn't have a common enemy, now they do.
We have had a common enemy since the year of 711 when the mudslimes invaded us the first time. The current invasion attempt is, I believe the third and we are forced to beat to quarters yet again. Let's do it proper this time.
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>>134346668
That's actually my point. Hitler was a pragmatist, he wanted to win at any cost. National Socialism worked, it was thoroughly routed in its time and place in history. If he was alive today he would understand the necessity to discard the movement of the past for the movement of the future. That movement is, I believe, Identitarianism.
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>>134348576

No they are not, i still can't fathom how many fellow germans are so misinformed about our laws concerning symbolism.
They are only outlawed if there is a DIRECT CONNECTION lookwise to an outlawed organisation.
The Algiz rune is not outlawed, neither is the Odal rune unless it's in direct connection design and lookwise to an outlawed organisation.
While i'm at it, owning NS items like a swastika flag, certain books and propaganda etc. is not outlawed either, it's only outlawed if it's a REPRODUCTION because with a reproduction swastika flag you can't claim
>I collect for historical significance
nor
>I inherited this from my family
If it's an original you are protected to own them.

>pic related: inherited from my other grandfather who lead one battalion of flemish Waffen SS volunteers back then
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>>134321311
I wouldn't even know about this bitch if she wasn't spammed on here 24/7. All the love/hate for her is spam.
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>>134349040

I was going to mention the Crusades but you could argue that was Christendom working in unison
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>>134348884

Thanks, the picture i posted with the Wehrwolf items are from a family friend who's grandfather was part of this group. The rest is from my collection/inheritance though
>pic related
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>>134348961
I've lived here for ten years now, and I don't really think there is much of a difference. The regionalist identification comes from the policies made since the 1960s in reaction to the forced Frenchification for a century, and even then it has become much better this decade, many identify themselves als Belgian first, but point their region out too. Also I really can't tell any difference in looks between Walloons and Flemish honestly, except for the more "swarthy" looking people living in the Ardennes. Roughly one third of Flanders has Walloon/French surnames and one third of Wallonia has Flemish/Dutch surnames.

You're right about the Walloon part though. They tend to be more unionist and royalist, mostly because they royalty tried to fuck up Flemish identity.

What are you doing in Belgium if I may ask, are you a student?
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>>134339001
You are correct

(((Shills))) and Civic "good goy" Nationalists are afraid because the 5 more minutes of peace option is rapidly fading.

White people who have seen diversity are not going to chill out, civic nationalists and skeptics are only in it for the keks. Fucking pussies
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>>134349132
Didn't I just literally wrote "used by NSDAP organisations"?

http://www.paritaet.org/via/service/info/zeichen.htm

Also, how European would the GI be IF one branch would start to you an Algiz instead of the Lambda?
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>>134319805
>Wouldn't it be easier to use at least an own symbol/flag in addition to the lambda thing?
is this sufficient?
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>>134349427
>What are you doing in Belgium if I may ask, are you a student?

I work here, but I really can't tell you what I'm doing. This is way too specific, even if I tried to be broad. It's either I say too much or too little. I'm sorry, it may sound like I'm an ebin larper but I'm really careful with my real identity.

Thank you for the insights about Belgium.
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>>134349807
No problem m8, I was just curious to know if you're here as a student or for work reasons. I wouldn't reveal much about myself here other than my ethnicity too.
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>>134349249
Kek go to the supermarket with the totenkopf hat.
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>>134319805
I think it's about identifying as native European, not so much what part of Europe.
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>>134349807
>>134349427
Belgium is fucked up guys.
Most people I've met (live in Flanders) don't really think of themselves as Belgian, nobody gives a fuck.
The thing is that a Flemish person is Germanic and Walloons are more French. It's two different cultures put together for no apparent reason.

There have always been tensions between the two parts and always will be. I wouldn't say I'm Belgian either, though we have bigger problems than eachother namely: shitskins. So lets come together to fuck them over and kick them out.
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>>134319805
Its not that hard to see the hierarchy unless you have nog level IQ

family
extended family/city/etc
country
country group (nordic, balkan, etc)
race/culture group (western european/white etc)
etc

Id europe basically serves as a banner to protect country group/race which is massively under attack
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>>134350126
This is my feeling aswell, as a stranger living there.
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>>134350126
Literally, no one can tell you guys apart except yourselves. Unite!!!
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>>134350126
It probably depends on where you live I think. Over the years I've lived far away from the linguistic border and very near to it, the farther you go away the more people identify themselves as Belgians imo. When it comes to culture Walloons are pretty much just Frenchified Germanics though, even their original language just looks like someone threw German into a Roman dialect.

You're right though, we should unite at least as long as we have other problems here.
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In Belgium everyone thinks something need's to be done about it and they go for beer thinking somebody else will fix all the problems.

I see in country i tis getting worse and worse little by little.

Belgians that have money live in small villages but even there you can see few immigrants so far.
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