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>>134305460

PRAY THE ROSARY

I want to rape mary

>>134305460
hol up let me break the 10 commandments real qwicks.

>>134305751

The Rosary doesn't break any of the commandments.

>>134305737

Repent of this before death, accept the true God Jesus Christ, if you know what is good for you.

>>134305737
praying for you

>>134305460

sage

wtf has some beads to do with politics ? christianity threads are fine this is to stupid even for /pol/

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>>134305460

The rosary can't be done in a vacuum. The latin mass is perhaps the greatest white magic ritual conceived by man and inspired by the sublime. Pray, but do not ignore the form of ritual because that way lies error and disfigurement of body and soul.

>>134306104

Too*

>>134306233

Can you elaborate on this?

I agree with the neccesity of the mass, but the Rosary will draw people to it and the sacraments.

>>134305737
As a confirmed Catholic, my duty is to be a soldier of Christ.

If I will have to Physically destroy you, I will.

You haven't seen Christian terrorism in centuries, moslem.

>>134305460
Ave!

I love praying the rosary, I do it everyday as part of my daily walk. Nothing more blissful, relaxing and peaceful as reflecting on the sacred mysteries whilst walking in a beautiful park. Also gives me my daily cardio. Two birds.

The rosary combines all the most powerful prayers and meditations to something that is truly the best prayer. I say this as an ex protestant who is going to be receiving into the church next Easter.

>>134305737

you want to rape everybody you mongoloid

>>134307203
the rosary isnt a sledgehammer, its the cherry on top. The power of Jesus broke open the gates of hell, the power of Our Lady can just smash the evil in the world.But she's gentle and chooses not to.

The rosary is one of the last sacred traditions we have here.

>>134305815
>Thou shalt not worship graven images
>Praying with a medallion of Mary; effectively worshiping an idol instead of God.

>>134307773
If you die before next Easter will you go to hell?


What do you think of Pope Francis?

>>134309382
No it isn't. The beads are used to guide you through the prayers, so you know what to pray and when. All icons are there to remind you of the mystery of faith and the resurrection. No one worships an icon or object, they only worship God. Iconoclasm was btfo as a heresy in the 8th century AD

>>134308984

I would say that the Rosary is the greatest form of prayer in the Catholic faith, undoubtably.

A sinners repentance begins with prayer.

The Rosary is the greatest weapon available to all of us. Every sinner will be saved by recitation of it.

>"Give me an army saying the Rosary and I will conquer the world." – Blessed Pope Pius IX

>“The Rosary is the ‘weapon’ for these times.” -Saint Padre Pio

>No one can live continually in sin and continue to say the Rosary: either they will give up sin or they will give up the Rosary” – Bishop Hugh Doyle

>“The greatest method of praying is to pray the Rosary.” – Saint Francis de Sales

>>134309382

>Meditating upon the life of Christ
>prayer beads have been used by the early Christians for 2,000 years

Next elections I'm voting for the left.
And so the following elections, I will keep doing it.
Unless the right stops being retarded and abandons cuckstianity.

>>134309857

Wow, so edgy!!!

*tips fedora*

>>134309521
No because my intention is to join the Church so in the eyes of God who exists outside of time, I already am a part of the church thus I am saved.

I don't know what to think of Pope Francis as I have not directly seen anything he has said or done, only what the (((media))) has said about him. On the one hand I know not to trust the Jewish media, and some of the supposedly alarming things that he says like Atheists are more likely to be saved than hypocritical catholcs are actually very True. I think there are good things to take away from his ministry, although I pray he is not destroying the church and promoting heresies. But it's not my place to judge as I don't know the full picture. I have faith in the seat of Peter even if I don't have faith in who occupies the seat because Jesus said the gates of hell shall not prevail against the church.

>>134309953

Remember, Christ taught obedience even to the scribes and Pharisees that killed Him because "they sit of the chair of Moses." How much more should we obey whoever sits on the chair of Peter?

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>>134305503
It's even better with Rosary Beads blessed in the presence of the Blessed Virgin, such as at Medjugorje or Fatima. Having a statue of Blessed Mary next to you helps focus your intention to Mary for her Intercession.

>>134305737
Isnt it not allowed on your religion to say blasphemous things about Mary?

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God's not real

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>>134311035
lol

>>134310082
You only have to obey what he says Ex Cathedra Peter, for that is directly from God and is Dogma, everything else he says is his opinion and not not need to be obeyed.

>>134311588

Yes exactly. From my understanding the Pope only defines and declares existing dogma from the deposit of faith. He cannot even create "new" dogmas, rather he explains existing dogma.

>>134309382

"Heretics, all of whom are children of the devil and bear the evident marks of reprobation, have a horror of the Hail Mary. They still say the Our Father but not the Hail Mary. They would rather wear a serpent around their necks than a Rosary."

Saint Louis Grignion de Monfort

>>134311732
Interesting, do you mean dogma's that have already been declared before or the existing unrevealed truth? Because from my understanding of theology, the truth already exists and the role of the church militant is to discover and define that truth, hence, dogma is nothing new, but rather the discovery of absolute truth that already existed.

>>134312188
One thing I find strange is that how are Heretics able to recite holy prayers and claim to do things in the name of Jesus? Would they not recoil in pain as they touch something holy if they are being influenced by satanic forces? Maybe that's why they try to limit the tradition to as infrequent as possible, for it so pains them to do it, and they introduce secular and satanic traditions to override those that are holy.

>>134312262

I listened to a podcast that touched on this recently. I don't know much about this so check me on it... But from what I gather the complete "deposit of faith" has already been revealed to the church. Therefore, no Pope can declare anything that is not already contained within the deposit of faith. He can only explain and expound upon articles of that faith.

So the Protestant idea that a Pope can say "eating toast is a sin" and it be infallible is completely false.

>>134312480

Satanic deception is a subtle thing. Many do not know they are under this kind of influence and think they are doing good. Some demons do not even show an aversion to some Holy items. I have this from the words of Fr Chad Ripperger, a catholic priest and exorcist.

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>>134305460
We really need a containment board for you religion fags.

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>>134305460
Mary cant save you, papist.
Repent and receive the true Lord.

>>134312705
Fascinating. What other interesting things has Fr Ripperger told you about demons?

Don't order from rosaryshop.com They're some kind of scam. It's been 2 months and I still don't have my rosary.

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>>134311242
Prove it.
>pro tip: you can’t

>>134313920

Try catholiccompany.com. I've bought from them numerous times, always received the item and shipping times were appropriate.

>>134313541

Have a look online, he has many talks on the subject lol

>>134313082
test

>>134309783
Im not catholic (even though my country is primarly catholic) but I believe in Jesus (im not baptized), can I pray the rosary or do I have to be baptized?
Also are you a sedevacantist?
Thanks

>>134314199

No I'm not a sedevacantist. I believe in loyalty to whoever sits on the chair of Peter.

Say the Rosary friend, you won't regret it. You don't have to be baptised but I guarantee you will be if you pray the Rosary!

God bless

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>>134315483

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Don't forget to add the Fátima prayer revealed by our Lady of the Rosary.

>O My Jesus, forgive us our sins, save us from the fires of Hell and lead all souls to Heaven, especially those who are in most need of Thy mercy.

Sop praying to Mary you idol-worshipping Catholics
It's blasphemous

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God bless OP. Have a bump.

>>134314465
Thank you

>>134316207

http://www.piercedhearts.org/hearts_jesus_mary/heart_mary/mary_early_church_miravalle.htm

>>134316207
Mary offers our prayers directly to God, see revelations for more details.

>>134314199
You can. I would also recommend getting baptized.

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Blessed Bartolo Longo, Satanist turned dedicant of the Holy Rosary.

Pray for us Blessed Bartolo

>>134316615
You just confused Mary with Jesus, like a good little papist.

>>134305460

Prayer beads came before Jesus was born.

They're as pagan as pagan can be.

And they're often made with the bones of human beings.

>>134318193
No, Jesus is God you arian heretic

>>134318193

Jesus is God

>>134305460
>worshipping Satan by proxy
>worshipping the demiurge
>practicing ancient pagan traditions
>worshipping a man before the lord
>worshipping a jew
>hanging out with pedophiles
>praying to nothing
>being deceived by satan
>mutilating you penis
>decorating your house with dead jews
>turning your wifes sons other cheek
>editing the holy book for profit
>being in a pyramid scheme
>doing blood rituals
>being completely obsessed with a blood ritual
>drinking proxy blood
>judging others
>hoping people go to hell
>being willfully ignorant
>living in constant fear of going to hell
>lowing your own IQ by 25 points because your only argument for anything starts with "in the bible"
>being extremely zealous yet letting degenerates take over your country
>doing the opposite of what your holy book says
>marrying blacks because we are all gods people
>Halloween is evil, proceeds to worship a yule log
>being horrible to be around
>being wrong about 80% of everything
>being easily manipulated by anyone who claims to be a christian
>being a sheep

Christians are pretty fucking retarded. Pro-tip, read the bible and you will be able to manipulate them with ease. /puppetmaster/ is the best way to live and christians are the easiest to do this to. I would almost get angry at christians if they weren't so helpful and dumb. Like a dog.

>mary mary mary wah wah wah
and this drivel is why I'll never be catholic
where is the new reform to remove the perverts and gay orgies?

>>134318490

Wow, another edge-lord. It's going to be scary for you being face to face with God on judgement day... I pray you will repent and believe in Jesus Christ before then brother.

>>134305460
What is "the truth"?

>>134319391

Jesus Christ

>>134319669
What is Jesus Christ?
(I'm not mocking you, I legitimately want to believe in the church but I also want to remain in the realm of rationality. Jordan Peterson has been helping me a lot on associating religious beliefs with rationality)

>>134320315

Jesus Christ is the Son of God... The "Word" made flesh, the logos incarnate. "Logos" or Word actually means "reason", the same reason you speak of.

Belief in the trinity, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is the only rational belief when faced with the reality of existence and creation.

>>134320836
That's dumb.

And if g-d is so great, from whence cometh evil?

>>134319299
I have a personal relationship with God

The road to heaven is narrow and all these degenerate christians think they get in by being good goys, they are wrong

I read the bible more than you probably, pray more whole-heartidly, fast, and do much more as part of my religious beliefs, modern christians have truly degenerated and are now racemixing and letting muslims in, every time I hear someone say "Jesus" with a southern accent I cringe.

>>134321081
From man

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>>134305460

>>134321153
But g-d created man, so then he also created evil.

How can you say he is a benevolent god when he inflicted evil on us all?

>>134321081
Suck a cock

>>134320836
The problem comes when you start speaking in incredibly Esotheric terms like "trinity, Father, son, holy spirit is the only rational belief"

I understand you have reasons to place such grandiose value in those beliefs but you can't really articulate how or why you got to the conclusion of how those things became so valuable. I admire the Esotheric meaning behind the stories in genesis and Noah, I'm slowly beginning to understand them but I just can't get to the point of believing in the metaphysical/or even physical existence of God. I see God as the ideal. What ought to be, and Christ is God(the ideal) personified. I literally replace the word God with "the ideal" everywhere I read it and it makes much more sense. Christ is what the absolute perfect human being would be like but I can't see it as more than a story or metaphor

>>134305737
Too late. God already had its way with her.

>>134321565
Why don't YOU suck a cock? I know you christfags are always slavering for some little kid dick.

>>134321081
Found the jew

>>134321096
The only personal relationship you have is with a demon.

God does not do personal relationships. He only does union with the church. If you want to be a part of that union you have to ditch muh personal relationship and join the church

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>>134321677
I'm not a Christfag, obviously, i literally state that in my post. I'm agnostic and see the Bible as an indispensable cultural object of the west, same as the Mona Lisa and Greek classical architecture or the magna carta.

Why don't you sort yourself out before speaking.

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>>134315483
I read somewhere that the modern interpretation of Christ is actually the image of the son of some wealthy degenerate pope who wanted to be a god.

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>>134321717
>>134321565
>>134321153
>ask one simple question about why god would inflict evil on us
>christfags instantly turn to insults, memes, and idiocy

No wonder your shitheap religion is so pathetic, you can't even defend it. Your pope kisses the feet of subhuman african migrants.

Christianity is weak. You can't even answer a single question without resorting to >waaaahhh boo hoo suck a dick mean person wahhh :'(.

Pathetic.

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>>134321677
I told you to suck a cock because you personify pic related. I'm ITT to learn what OP and other Christfags think like and about. I think they have purposeful lives and I want the same in mine. You just came here to Jack off your brain over your Superiority in winning arguments a 12 year old makes. Wow. Such intelligence.

>>134322049
>Religion thousands of years old
>millions of devout followers
>possessing the literal word of god himself
>can't defeat arguments "a 12 year old makes"

Hhehaehauheuahuehauehauehauehauehuaehuhuuhuaehuaeuaeuhaeuhae

>>134321851
You're correct given the date King James had it translated into English.

>>134322022
God doesn't inflict evil in the land. God is an entity above the land, he doesn't affect it at all. It's why praying doesn't do shit. You gotta pray to become stronger, not to get shit or cure your child etc.

First of all, what is evil?
>the purposeful creation of unnecessary suffering from one person (the evil man) to the undeserving sufferer (the victim of the evil)

OK, and how is evil made?
Through sin

And what is sin?
The action of purposely doing things you know to be wrong. It's why casinos are considered a sin, you know you should be investing your money elsewhere. It's why killing is sin, you know you shouldn't kill because you wouldn't want to be killed (a double standard) and double standards are wrong and unsustainable.

Happy now, nigger? I gave you the attention you wanted.

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>>134322149

Why do Catholics believe in works based salvation when the Bible is really clear that you need to trust Jesus Christ alone through faith?

Wasn't Jesus' sacrifice enough?

>>134321500
God gave us free will, he does not do evil, but man does, its a simple concept

>>134322562
>Catholics
Catholics worship Lucifer so....

>>134322562
Faith and works. Faith leads to works.

Bible does not say "faith alone". It does however say "not by faith alone"

To have faith in Jesus is to follow his will and stop sinning which is what works is.

Ps. your flag is catholic

>>134321565

I don't understand where you got that impression. Go and study the prophecies of the bible, which are accurate to the year in many cases, go and study the martyrs who faced brutal torture because they held firm that they saw Christ risen... The fact that you think you can deduce that there is "no evidence" for Christianity from a three line explaination of who Christ is is absurd.

Christianity is the Truth and there is abundant evidence that it is the truth. I have provided just two ways one can prove the divine origin of Holy Scripture and the validity of Jesus Christ's Resurrection and His miracles.

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>>134322356
>God created everything and everyone in existence
>but evil is YOUR FAULT you dirty filthy sinner

Makes sense.

Klim Krishnaya Govindaya Gopijana Vallabaya swaha
Klim Krishnaya Govindaya Gopijana Vallabaya swaha
Klim Krishnaya Govindaya Gopijana Vallabaya swaha

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>>134322562
Stop seing Christ as a physical entity. See him as for example David (pic related) a beautiful work of art that inspires man to become great. Treat the Bible and God the same way. Christ should inspire you to become like him, humble, yet not a cuck, strong yet fair, willing to sacrifice for a greater purpose. You're supposed to aspire to be a God.

>>134322737
>>134322964
I do agree that we need to follow God's laws and that faith in Jesus leads to good works, but I think the Bible is clear that if you believe that your own works will get you into heaven, you are not saved. If you trust that your goodness will get you into heaven, you're not saved, because only faith in Jesus can get you to heaven. So while we should do good works, if we trust our own works, then we aren't being saved.

The Bible says that "as it is written there is none righteous, no, not one".

>>134305460
Not political.
Sage

>>134321851

This materialistic view of Chrisianity is folly. The fruit of Christianity as opposed to other religions/ideologies is a testimony to this fact.

A materialistic view of Christianity will not profit anyone, in fact, it will only bring more degeneration and nihilism to the west.

The power of Christianity is that God Is real, which is frankly obvious to anyone not completely deluded. This is what people like Peterson cannot seem to grasp, probably due to excessive pride and a resentment to the fact that God is sovereign and wise, not them.

>>134322874
But it is... Is a hurricane evil? Is a natural forest fire evil? No. It's just a force of nature, chemical reactions undoing themselves. Meanwhile Unit 731 or whatever from Japan that frosted and defrosted body parts until the muscles fell off the victim while he's alive, while the same doctors doing this experiment not wanting that done to them. Now that's evil. Some nigger killing and stabbing people multiple times just because bix nood, that's evil. God is just the ideal. He can't influence the world, only man. He's done creating the world. That's it. No more bullshit is going to happen. Just watch Jordan's Bible lectures m8

>>134322874
>blaming your sins on someone else

In every case of sin you made a choice to do so. God giving you the ability to sin is not the same as doing the sin himself.

>>134322562

Faith alone is incorrect... Faith without works is dead.

http://taylormarshall.com/2010/10/did-church-fathers-teach-justification.html

>>134323210
But is man not a force of nature? Did god not create man as he created fire and wind?

It just doesn't make any sense, why would god create something contrary to his alleged benevolent nature?

>>134323360
Then why are humans alive today still blamed for Eve taking the apple? Clearly she made the choice, why then does that choice curse all the rest of humanity?

>>134322964

You should really stop telling people to adopt this materialistic heresy, friend. You are on the right track, don't influence people in his way, it is incorrect.

>>134305460
Fucking polytheistic bullshit.

>>134323425
You're only justified by works before man, but not before God. Both James and Romans in clear about that. James even references the Romans story of Abraham:

>For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God (Romans 4:2)

>>134323541

God created every creature with the ability to serve, or to not serve. Satan and the demons were angels who would not serve a good God, for whatever reason...

Humans choose to sperate themselves from God by doing evil. After the fall of Adam and Eve, we are all tainted with original sin, and are inclined to evil as a result.

If God would have created us without the ability to choose, and I mean a real choice, we would have no freedom.

God values human freedom, which we should be happy for... This is why hell exists, it is the complete absence of God, and thus goodness itself; which humans choose when they reject God and prefer evil.

>>134309783
>No one can live continually in sin and continue to say the Rosary: either they will give up sin or they will give up the Rosary” – Bishop Hugh Doyle

This is actually true for me, with Pater Noster, Ave Maria, Credo and Act of Contrition.

For the moment, the only ones that I remember word to word.

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>>134323541
>Then why are humans alive today still blamed for Eve taking the apple? Clearly she made the choice, why then does that choice curse all the rest of humanity?
bitches man, fucking bitch ruined it for the rest of us

But really it was adam not wanting to be lonely forever and taking the apple afterward, he was "The perfect man" He was better than any to live after him, except for Jesus who was not man. It's easy to say "I wouldn't have eaten the apple" But they could have been at it for a long time before he gave in, or just the thought, that he was so lonely before that bitch showed up that he asked god to make her, he didn't want that again, so he gave in.

>tfw no gf ruined the entire thing

>>134322863
I know you believe in the physical resurrection of Christ. That he literally came back to life after 3 days. But I simply cannot believe in a miracle and toss it to faith. Brain damage begins 30 seconds after lack of oxygenized blood. 3 days and he's gone. I see the story of his resurrection as the story of the Phoenix. Christ went through an insane amount of sacrifice and hardships absolutely willingly, same as how a drunk goes through withdrawals and willingly decides to bear the burden of hangovers/headaches/muscle aches while sacrificing the only thing he knows will stop his pain (alcohol). Christ then dies, and comes back 10 times stronger, so powerful in fact that he is able to go to heaven. Same thing happens to our drunk. After months of insufferable pain and lust he dies (the drunk dies) and our drunk is reborn into a completely different man who now has untapped potential that reaches all the way to heaven. This story repeats everywhere but nobody notices the parallels to the Bible.

>>134323804

Your cherry picking. Satan himself believes in Jesus Christ, will he be saved?

Can one be a murderer, believe in Christ and be saved?

No. Because true faith in Christ is dead without works. Which the early Christians are very clear on.

Sola Fide and Sola Scriptura are both heresies from the devil himself. True repentance involves a turning away from sin, stopping sinning, obeying God: I.e... WORKS.

>>134324248

The "wisdom" of men is foolish, friend.

Christ is risen.

If someone didn't see Christ risen, would they die a horrible death for saying they did? How about a whole host of people? All saying the same thing, affirming He rose until the end. Jesus Christ rose from the dead, He predicted it when He was alive, and the Old Testament predicted it thousands of years before it happened.

God created the physical laws which you call forth to try and discredit Him.

>>134324248
Most christians dont understand the bible

Think of christs death as like a 1000x more powerful virgin sacrifice, say he was a man who lived without sin, plausible, and then he was killed, this is like a HUGE sacrifice, and he was killed in a bloody and painful way. Being that he was the first and only man to live without sin this is an incredible event, even if you take god out of the equation, it speak alot for the human condition, the righteous man goes punished for the sins of others.

>>134323541
Is a fucking fire conscious? Can the fire say "I'm going to burn the tree to my left now"? No, you fucking idiot. It's obvious that humans are the only conscious beings in the world and through that consciousness they become evil. Monkeys eat each other alive for food, but the monkey eating the one screaming isn't evil, he's hungry, he's gotta get his food, he cannot think further than "hungry=get food by all means necessary" same as how the people who ate other people during the holodomor are not evil.

The monkey isn't eating other monkeys alive on purpose for the sake of inflicting pain on the victim monkey. He is just hungry.

Why would God create such a fucking retard such as your self that keeps ignoring arguments over and over.

>>134323627
But christ isn't a physical entity, no one can deny nor confirm his physical existence. He exists as a cultural object. I'm sorry but praying to God to heal your child won't cure him of his cancer. But praying to God to give you strength to bear his coming death (ie mentally preparing yourself for it) will help you much more. This is why lots of people leave the church. Priests tell people to legit pray to God for miracles not for strength or will power and when something bad happens they blame God and them leave the church all resentful and angry.

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>>134322874
>Darkness (lack of light) exists
>Coldness (lack of energy) exists
>Evil (lack of good) exists

Evil is a return of created things to nothing. An undoing of God's created good work. Evil in the sense you were thinking does not exist.

Pax et bonum.

>>134323133
>If you believe that your own works will get you into heaven you're not saved
I don't believe that. So you're telling me that, for example an atheist who became a great industrialist, employs a thousand men and benefits 5 thousand people (their families), donates and personally feeds the poor the hungry and the sick, gives advice to the youth on how to live an honorable life and basically unknowingly imitates Christ in all possible ways will not get access to heaven? Wouldn't you say he has "let Christ into his heart" without knowing by doing good deeds?

Meanwhile a drunk dad who mistreats his kids every once in a while, has a shit job, dies and leaves nothing of value to his kids or the world goes to heaven because hey, at least he goes to church and is very devout. That's kind of bullshit my man.

>>134323133
I just re-read your post again.

Would you say this is why Moses didn't go to heaven? Because he just "followed the rules?"
Explain this plz

>>134305460
>here have this supplementary prayer when the Lord Jesus Christ has already told you how you are to pray

Wut.

>>134323190
But you cannot deny the physical proof of the earth being a meteorite formed billions of years ago with more rocks piling onto it. Or how evolution is a fact that can be proven even if you just look at recorded history
>women prefer taller men
>average man in Europe 700 years ago was 5'8
>average man in Europe is 6'0 today
Same with intelligence or hair color. You can't both believe in evolution and that God created man out of dirt.

>>134325765
Catholicism makes very little sense. A religion that decides to make a Goddess out of a character who did nothing of importance and put their "savior" and "god" on the back burner most of the time.

>>134325949
>evolution is a fact
Retard Alert

>You can't both believe in evolution and that God created man out of dirt.
Doesn't evolutions say that we all started from chemicals in dirt churning around and becoming life??

>>134324620
>the Bible is a collection of books written by 100+ different people
>no way any of those would spice up a story at all. Nope, impossible, this book is holy, no way any man would dare eat the app- err I mean lie in the Bible
C'mon man. You know this book is written by mere mortals not God, that stories are always spiced up or changed to give them deeper, more profound meaning. You can't just say there is absolutely no way in hell that a man would lie in the Bible. I understand your love for the scriptures and I respect your devout respect to the faith but I just hope you don't resent me for my skepticism on whether the events of the Bible were 100% fact.

>>134323133
Hence why Catholicism says Faith and works. No one can follow the law but God. Every man falls short and sin, which is where faith in Jesus comes, so we repent of our sins. Yet repentence is the genuine promise to sin no more and follow the law. Your repentance is fake if you don't promise and work to stop sinning

>>134305460
papists plz go

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>>134324896
>Tfw dindu nuffin and still get killed
It sucks, it's why I like the old testament better. It teaches you to be stronger and to not even dare fucking with God or you'll get smitten with deadly frogs

>>134325396
It's all about intentions. Would the atheist with full knowledge accept Jesus' sacrifice? Judging by his works he probably would. He might not though, and thus he would go to hell. Heaven is an opt out thing.

>>134326433
Yes. But the Bible also said that God took a rib and made a whole woman out of it. Is that literal too? It's better to look at it as a mysterious metaphor that you can apply to life.

>woman is literally a part of man
>you hurt your man you're hurting yourself
>you hurt your woman and you're hurting yourself
>Adam before eve was the ultimate perfect being
>Adam lost his rib and is now incomplete
>He needs his rib (eve) to become complete and perfect once again
>eve needs her rest of the body to become complete and perfect
It's a beautiful story of co-dependence, not a literal biology class

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"The human mind is not a magic box. Free will does not magically create moral evil. We are, by instincts and by nature, bound for hatred, violence, jealousy and lies and they were all necessary products of evolution; it was the only way we could survive. And it makes you wonder, if all these were really intellectually designed, then what kind of honor does this designer hold?"

The retardation in this thread really made me wonder. I sympathize with God, desipte him being an imaginary character, and fully agree with him that humanity must suffer immensely and die. None of which you don't deserve.

>>134325949

Faulty science. Darwin himself said the fossil records didn't support his theory, and would have to in the future to support it... The fossil records still don't support evolution.

What you are describing is micro-evolution, which is within a species and can be observed.

Macro-evolution however is one species becoming anther species, which is insane, illogical, impossible, and suffers from an insurmountable lack of observable evidence in the world.

One "kind" of animal will never evolve into another "kind"; it will never happen.

You can't give what you haven't got, meaning, if you haven't got intellect and reason (apes), it doesn't matter how many billions of years you breed, you can never "give" or develop Intellect or reason.

You can't give powers you don't have.

God created animals and humans with the ability to adapt to their environment; which is what you observed.

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>>134327313
You're right. Look at Bill gates, kek. He is literally killing blacks and is an eugenicist. I mean, nothing wrong with removing blacks from where they don't belong, but I mean, they belong in Africa, why keep sending food while at the same time making abortion vaccines. Gates is the perfect example of what you're talking about.

But for an example of what I'm talking about look at Mike Rowe...
Fuck. Turns out he's a Christian. Hol up

OK, let's look at...
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>Tfw btfo myself
Fug. I can't even think of a single "dindu nuffin" completely honorable philanthropist who isn't Christian.

>>134327587
>being this nihilistic
Begone you wicked devil!

>>134327587
wow, edgy and autistic

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>>134328050
>micro evolve from 1017 to 2017 5 inches taller
>micro evolve 20+ times this same set of 1000 years.
>not proof of evolution
It's scalable man. The "first" modern man existed 200,000 years ago. What could be considered the first as the micro evolutions are like hues in a color bar, if you zoom in close enough you can't tell the difference between red and orange but zoom out and you'll see red go to blue to green etc. "zoom out" further and you'll see monkeys 800,000 years ago. 800,000 is a loooooong fucking time. About 22,000 generations if there were a new one every 35 years

>>134327360
Amen anon.

Also,
Ribs serve as protection for your most vital organs - heart and lungs. Man's sacrifices some of his protection (rib) to provide additional protection for woman.

Simply beautiful.

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>>134328903
>that analogy
AAAAAAAAHHHHH DELET THIS
Too beautiful. Almost teared up.

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As I said, you simply cannot give what you haven't got. It's a logical certitude and is self evident.

If you haven't got wings, you cannot give wings.

If you haven't got reason and intellect, you cannot give it to your descendants... No matter how many trillions of years you breed.

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>>134329208
You cant jump from one species to another, it's a micro evolution that scaled up looks like a different species. Reason came to man through the deferral of gratification. Those monkeys who were too stupid to save food died during winter and the ones who saved got to spread around their intelligence, slowly the monkeys kept getting smarter and smarter. They found fire, fire gave way to more efficient eating methods, less energy spend digesting food meant more energy goes to the brain, more brain/cool shit you make the more females like you because other males admire you (high status) so on and so forth. Women are the ones furthering intelligence because they select for admired men, men only admire men better than them.

>>134324994
I hope you know that there are close to zero historians left who believe Jesus didn't exist. When you have independent sources that all aknowledge one fact (His existance), then it is almost impossible that it didn't happen.
And we have roman, hebrew and biblical evidence that He did in fact exist.

>>134329630

This is just wrong friend. You simply can't acuire a power you don't possess. Apes do not have the capacity for higher reasoning or speech like humans don't have the capacity for wings.

Furthermore, Darwin himself said the fossil records didn't support his theory, and they would have to in the future in order for his theory to stand... The fossil records only disagree with evolution more now than they did then.

Why do you cling to this absurd fantasy when the progenitor of it literally debunked it himself?

>>134329663
I'm sure there was a man as great and "holy" as Jesus. All myth and legend is based in truth. Same with Buddha or Mohammed, I just don't believe in the miracle that he literally rose from the dead. Or that he literally changed water to wine.

>>134331288
>you can't acquire a power you don't possess
Yes, and I'm 100% certain the first monkey that saved food for the winter cannot do calculus. Obviously. But slowly through environmental conditioning the brain grew powerful enough to be able to comprehend abstractions like written word which can be dated back 5,000 years to the sumerians. Although I'm sure people used sticks to count abstract numbers of things.

>>134331288
>why did you cling to this absurd fantasy? Why not cling to MY absurd fantasy.
Kek

>>134331681

No. Is the short answer to this. Apes cannot do calculus and do not have the potentiality to do so.

Humans cannot breath under water.

Fish cannot fly.

They will NEVER, EVER, evolve to do this. There is absolutely zero evidence of this and frankly all the evidence and logic points to its opposite.

Furthermore, mutations almost always, like 99.9999% are destructive, not constructive. This leads to devolution. Think genetic diseases and deformities.

The idea that millions of random mutations lead to positive changes is contrary to reason, science, and sanity.

>>134305503
This, if God decide to stuff her shit, I'm sure she was irresistible