Why is modern "art" absolute trash? Are (((they)))

>>134285459
>Are (((they))) behind it?
Yes, actually. Most of the people who buy this trash are Jewish.

>>134285459
in canada sometimes its the wagon burners laughing as they scam booze money by selling "art" to the canadian National gallery. as all official canadian institutions of heritage has to be repentive

>>134285459
The only meaning for modern art is money laundering.

>>134285459
>Are they behind it
According to the Nazis, yes. Watch Eternal Jew there is a section on Weimar Art

It's deliberate, basically the Soviets are butthurt that even America has produced more classical composers and classical artists than they have, so they made post modernism.. which turns out women really like this, because low intellectual standards, so they ran with it.

>>134285658

> the Soviets

fuck is wrong with you?

I saw an old documentary once here, it was about systematically destroying art and the culture behind it by (((them)))

Someone has it?

>>134285459
Because culture is racist.

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>>134285459
also look at modern architecture. they are trying do destroy us not only physically but spiritually.

>>134285699
Oh, you know, I'm actually red pilled
>suddenly stops believing in Soviet espionage as soon as someone implies they sent spies to universities
What's wrong with you? You'll believe they sent spies elsewhere, but not the universities? No, you will respond to me and give some justifications.

>>134285459
CIA ruined art to subvert USSR cultural influence
its even on wikipedia and they are biased

>>134285459
sage slide threads and get in here faggots
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>>134279608
>>134279608
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8IqSAOGIiA

Those white canvases sold by record sums are for money laundering

>>134285459
>what does /pol think
These threads are old and have been circulating for years. Fuck off OP.

>>134285459
despite what you may think, even the reptilian zog machine people cares about having good taste and being in tune with the zeitgeist. art is supposed to be about the most treasured aesthetics and ethics we can imagine and while you may yearn for the good old days, rich and successful people are looking for the new hotness

if there's an idea of the modern man being tolerant of other cultures and attempting to break free from the evils of his colonial and oppressive past then the art has to reflect that sentiment
basically there's a hole to fill and it has to be filled with art by the women, the oppressed and the marginalized. in this case, aesthetics is of secondary importance to ethics

It looks like most of the 'artists' making this shit as well as 'architects' are actually jews. And then there is a whole bunch of 'critics' who are all jews and who manage to sell these pieces of nonsense to rich idiots who in turn hope to resell them later at a profit or just because they think it'll make look cool and sophisticated.

>>134285459

Its high end money laundering these days.

>>134285459
Look up the frankfurt school

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>>134285459
Because they're shitty artists and it's all just a money laundering scam. Say what you want about Picasso, at least that faggot could actually paint. Same with most older painters, they just chose to go down a different path

Why does modern art even exist?

Actually, I'm pretty sure modern art is just a bunch of people trying to make a quick buck by doing retarded shit and pretending it's art, and if you don't understand their retarded shit then you must be dumb or something (as in the only selling point of it is to pretend you understand retarded shit with no meaning)

>>134286047
>>134286183

I once saw someone say this very same thing, I thought it was intriguing, can you please elaborate?

I didnt like when people called me an artist because all the "artists" were no talent , no skill bums . THEY have art shows while REAL artists , that are highly skilled craftsman , get jobs in commercial art .

>>134285459
It's a (((psyop))) designed to wreck our minds and civilization. It was carefully designed with malice aforethought.

>>134285459

There's plenty of good artists out there. In a matter now is the best time to become an artist just because of the sheer access to tools, knowledge and studies you have at your finger tips. With social media and things like Patreon you can get a decent following and money from it too depending what you do.

Don't get me wrong, Post-modern art is fucking garbage but it's just mostly talentless hacks being propped up by their friends in media outlets. There's no culture being destroyed and the Jews certainly ain't behind it, don't be dumb.

>>134286524
>and the Jews certainly ain't behind it

Spotted the kike

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Obligatory reading

>>134285459
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNI07egoefc

>>134286588

It's just a bunch of pretentious nobody's that are looking for their 15 minutes of fame, calm down anon

>>134285459
Modern art is one big laundry-scheme.

>>134285459
CIA and it has been proven

>>134285459
Didn't CIA pretty much admit that modern 'art' was a psyop to combat USSR?

Postmodernism is an instrument of power to keep people from actually doing anything worthwhile like ending corporate tyranny. The CIA secretly funded the modern art movement.

>>134286848
yes

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I took this picture yesterday at Tate Modern (London). I have no words. I went to listen to the guide's ...explanation and it was so brave and beautiful.
Fuck this Earth

>>134285459
Jewish form of money laundering.

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Then they spent 5 minutes looking at and talking about a rock.
I wish I was kidding

>>134286721
m8 the "artists" aren't getting shit, the kikes own the galleries and use them to shift cash in an unregulated market.

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WE WUZ ARTISTS N SHIEEETT

>>134286183
sure, if it's art that stands the test of time. look at the most valued artists and contemporary artists and it's still mostly white men. if the art you're buying becomes an important cultural touchstone then it will never decrease in value. warhol might fall out of favor but no one can say he wasn't important at some point and owning a warhol will then basically be like owning a time portal to the prevailing aesthetic and ethical ideals of the time. it's probably the most powerful aphrodisiac you can imagine if you have the slightest interest in the development of human culture

actively supporting menstruation art wont make you huge loads of cash. it's like you believe these powerful people aren't looking for spiritual redemption like the rest of us, you're elevating them to non-human status . like the rest of us they fall victim to trends and nodding in agreement to what critics are saying

it's a conspiracy in same way a female dr who is a concerted effort to dethrone the white male. on some level it's true, on some level it's simply an idea that resonates with a lot of people. it gives them the sense that the culture is changing and evolving into something more equal and beautiful

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From yesterday's trip to Tate Modern. Lack of Diversity in Art.
Someone shoot me please

All the good art has already been done, we don't need anymore.

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Either Jews or just people with Jewish attributes.

Money for nothing. I mean, I almost gotta say that the idiots that buy it are shittier than the people tricking them. That's what I'd like to say if not for the fact that buying actual shit on a canvas was a real thing that happened.

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>>134285459
dude modern art lmao im so cultured

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>Brave lesbian african wymynz

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modern art was initially about the soviets...

but today it's a broader phenomenon involving the plutocracy, government subsidized galleries\tourist attractions and people who just get bored looking at old art

the imageboard world is definately part of the modern art scene whether it likes it or not....

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Such brave modern art

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that's that happens when a civilization loses its faith in itself. it's now been more than a century of pure degenerate art. if a had a time machine i would go back and gas every cubist that ever lived, before they even painted a single painting. every year they push the boundaries more and more, and the pile of degeneracy is getting bigger and bigger, because the average apathetic zombie normie doesn't care about anything anymore. they don't care about starting families, they don't care about the fact that they will be a minority in their own country in a couple of decades, they don't care about the "tribe", etc., so why the fuck would you expect them to care about something as sophisticated as art. they only want dumb, ephemeral distractions in order to escape from their shitty jobs and their shitty life in general. we are DONE.

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Eat your heart out, Leonardo.

>>134285459
First of all this is not modern art but contemporary art. Modern art is mainly during first half of the 20th century and figure many great artists.
But indeed contemporary art is shit and has no other purpose than beeing use as a form of money. In most countries art isn't counted in your fiscal revenue and therefore you are not taxed on it. See the shit happens already?
So basically what they do is few people decide who will be ne the next "artist" to rise (and there is only 3 people on earth with this power and they are all jews. Surprisingly.)
Their friends buy those art pieces and then just wait for the prices to rise to degenerate amounts.
Profit.

>>134285648
Doesn't really have anything to do with Jews, it's more the modern psyche. The reason is because degenerate art developed independently and before the Jews really could have had worldwide influence.

I know they participate in it now as much as possible and try to manipulate things. But blaming everything on Jews is ignorant and leads to tunnel vision.

I would say the major divide is in regards to skill. If you take the iconic image of modern art, "Black Square" by Malevich, you can see that it is completely abstract, essentially meaningless, and skill-free. It only has meaning in the idea of the work, and for him it was rebellion against what he saw as decadent and abstract art. Painting was largely for the wealthy, with landscape images, and the viewers were trying to see what the artist was trying to tell them rather than feeling the image for themselves. He was trying to bring back pure feeling to the painted image, a religious experience in a sense (Orthodox Christianity was a huge influence on him).

Compare this to the first modern work of art, "The Death of Marat". It is clearly still in the realm of skilled artistic work, but the brutality, raw realism, and unfinished nature of the scene makes it modern. So I think the question is, even though pure abstraction took over, can the modern world be represented in all its brutality and cruelty, without the artist resorting to a similar form of brutality? I mean, one can represent beauty but there is no realism to it, as if each painting exists within a flipped version of "The Misanthrope", staring out at the cruel and miserable world which has isolated it.

The other possibility is that much of Modern Art is actually pretty good, but the endless reproduction and the copies of copies make it monotonous and banal. I'm on the former side, I prefer traditional imagery but feel it is basically just larping now.

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Modern Art at the biggest museum in London

>>134287441
Yeah but it literally is the Jews.

>>134285459
It's basically the Emperor's new clothes.

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>>134285459
>ITT: assblasted traddies mad that their era is over
Go back to the 30s ya goddamned natzi

>>134287562
We're trying.

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>cherry-picking the worst examples of modern art to incite moral rage and feel morally superior for being an ignoramus

This thread again.

>>134287432
i can't wait for you to name those "great" artists form the first half of the 20th century. you country was GROUND FUCKING ZERO for that degeneracy. it all started there.

>>134287700
your*

>>134285658
What? America hardly has any composers, and Stalin forced strict codes on what was allowed.

Meanwhile, American composers were the most degenerate of all, producing unending racket or 4 minutes of complete silence. I admire some of the Glass and Adams stuff, but a lot of it is just an unending racket.

>>134285459
Do tell me what have YOU personally done to support the"real" art as of this year.

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>>134287648
Step 1: load gun (Lüger would be best)
Step 2: point gun behind one's temples
Step 3: pull the damn trigger
Follow these three easy steps, and you can join your glorious leader. In hell, that is.

>>134287673
Would be nice if build and liveable.

>>134287673
modern art is completely gas worthy. get ready and don your most choice oven attire.

>>134285459
I really wish I could play that modern arts game. I would fuck over rich people on a daily basis. Problem is you have to have some sort of pull. Like a Nigger from Nigeria born and raised in a village that looks and talks like Einstein.

Or some other shit. It just needs to be out of the ordinary. A former Childsolder could make sculptures out of AKs and bones. And he would get hundreds of thousands for his "Art".

Or you really need to sell your product. Art is about marketing. If you can sell it and make a dramatic and confusing story around it you are in. Or your art has to be otherwise confusing. All you need is one rich chump to fall for it and it gets the ball rolling.

You have to have the personality for it. You cant be ashamed of selling worthless trash for big amounts of money. Otherwise they will sense it. You cant let them feel you want something from them like something mundane like money. The more you act like you dont give a fuck the more cash you will get.

>>134287866
edgy

>>134285459
You are too ignorant to understand it

>>134285459
People get bored and art is about expression. If you only copy what came before than you have stagnated and are uninteresting.

On the otherhand this can lead to many pisspoor ideas, but its better than stagnation.

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>>134287673
breathtaking. we are saved, the golden times are back.

>>134287700
Not my fault if you have absolutely zero culture false flag.
Europe was emulating with creation between the world war.
I guess you never heard of German art during the 30s. Painting, cinema.

Beeing an idiot make you controlled by everyone

>>134287178
no one cares about female art because it's fucking awful and always about their smelly vages. get bent cunts.

>>134287866
That's the 40's. I know it's hard to keep up with all the revisionism, but at least try.

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>>134287673
I remember some garbage tabloid trying to incite some outrage over the National Gallery purchasing a red canvas for millions of dollars by printing a shitty picture of it in newsprint when the reason it is so valuable is because it's one of the first examples of painting that used different chemical composition paints of same color to reveal a picture as museum-goers walk by since the different paint reflect the light differently at an angle.

>>134285953
Very true, they pushed 'individualist art' which was more degenerate than anything the Soviets could ever come up with. Brainwashed generations since the 1940s.

>>134285459
That's what modern art is inherently dissembling, though. It always has been. It's chaotic neutral, not chaotic evil.

>>134285459
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHw4MMEnmpc
This is a good documentary.

>>134287475
the concept is more important than the aesthetics. the concept is more relevant. there's an anxiety about women and minorities not being as successful in the art realm and this is the remedy for it
watching this kind of stuff and thinking about it puts you in the "good" camp, the camp where people are seeking for equality and equal representation because we're all equally beautiful in our own special ways.

the idea of cleansing your soul with pieces like these is probably more appealing to a lot of people than to see accomplished art done by white men because it just reaffirms their dirty thoughts about the superiority of a certain group

>>134288064
>still mad that his leader an heroed like a coward

>>134287673
and the fact that you presented this as a counter example to our "cherry picking" says everything i need to know about you. we don't need to cherry pick, we only need to take a stroll to our local contemporary art gallery in order to see the amount of garbage that's being passed off as art.

>>134288001
That looks like an Ikea house made in china plastics

>>134286192
Who were some of the first to criticise modern art, but you know, we gotta keep the conspiracy theory going.

>>134288068
I really hope someone murders you.

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>>134286848
Yes. They made random paint splattering on canvas into 'fine art'. I mean that's pretty amazing.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/modern-art-was-cia-weapon-1578808.html

>>134288253
Clickbaiters into archive
https://archive.is/E4wK5

>>134288068
>'s one of the first examples of painting that used different chemical composition paints
so it belongs in a science musem since it's not art
kys leaf

>>134288133
No, I'm mad that someone didn't assassinate him sooner.

>>134286221
Nah fuck you. Picasso was the first scammer. You ever see his work in person? It's beyond shit.

>>134285459
Did someone not post a list of the end goals of communism in society? Supposedly formless art is supposed to belittle human identity and tradition, cultural, etc. Of course not all artists are communists, but assuming art got hijacked, it wouldn't be much of a jump to say that everyone has gotten blinded by what is considered good and bad art.

>>134286885
Someone who doesn't know how to put up a tent?

>>134288253
It really isn't.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHw4MMEnmpc

Come on, faggots, I dare you.
Tell us what have you done to support the "real" art.
Talk is cheap.
Artists need to eat, and if modern art sells (due to money laundering or whatever) and "classic" art does not, that literally means that great majestic market has spoken and the value of modern art is de facto far greater than that of the classic art.

>>134288366
That is literally a Picasso painting posted there, before he decided that some effort was too much effort.

>>134288319
DaVinci invented new types of paint because he wasn't satisfied with existing ones.

Should his paintings be moved to a children's science museum next to the Tesla coils?

>>134288319
Read again: It was a picture but only of you walked by, sort of those moving picture cards effects.
>you should have quoted further

>>134288436
Which is why I call him the first scammer. Someone with some talent who decided to feed the normies bullshit and realized he could even turn art jewish. How many softcocks look up to Picasso as a great artist? The damage he and others like Pollock have done is virtually irreversible at this point

>>134285459
went to classical and design art college and 90% of the people there have no actual talent and just do this type of post modern trash, performance being the worst, i mean, Marina Abramovic's performance art is part of the studies.

>>134285617
So much this! Essentially tax fraud schemes for the rich.

To further understand the issue and arm yourself with argumentative ammunition for discussion on- and offline, I highly recommend 'Who says that's art?' by Michelle Kamhi.

(I do not profit from this link)
https://www.amazon.com/Who-Says-Thats-Art-Commonsense/dp/0990605701/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1500537807&sr=1-1&keywords=Who+Says+That%27s+Art%3F

>>Today's artworld experts accept virtually anything as "art"--from all-black paintings and facsimiles of supermarket cartons to dead animals preserved in formaldehyde. Many art lovers reject such fabrications, however, arguing that they are not art. This book explains why those ordinary people are right and the presumed experts are wrong.

>>Museums and galleries around the world are filled with "cutting-edge" pieces of "contemporary art" that art lovers largely detest, while painters and sculptors whose work the public would appreciate are ignored by the cultural establishment.

>>How did this happen? What mistaken ideas have led to it? Who is responsible? And what can be done to reverse the situation? Who Says That's Art? answers such questions--in commonsense terms that non-specialists can readily understand.

>>134285459
>>134285030

>>134288016
tell me about the great european painters and sculptors of the first half of the 20th century. tell me so that i can laugh at you.

>>134288278
>24 seconds

every time

Thanks archive bot

>>134288479
The difference is that da Vinci was actually good. He didn't just do it as a cheap gimmick.

Contemporary art is all about "ideas", which more or less boil down to political propaganda or stupid gimmicks that make easily manipulated people think they're deep, because they have to project their own bullshit onto the art itself, or are impressed by very simple concepts.
It's astonishingly shallow.

>>134288016
>I guess you never heard of German art during the 30s
Yeah, about that.

>>134288016
citing weimar era art as an example of excellence is not gonna help your argument. do you know where you are, nigger?

>>134287511
Malevich - Orthodox
Cezanne - Catholic
David - Pagan/Classical Christian
Picasso - Catholic

Literally none of the major artists were Jewish. There is a fair bit of participation in the financialisation now, but we are pretty late in the game.

I know it's easy to blame everything on Joos, but you won't solve anything by turning them into a negative monotheism. If anything you will become more like them.

>>134288404
Isn't what?

>>134289074
Picasso was a communist.

>>134288877
Most art created in all era are shit.

Only the creme de la creme survives time.

We're all only seeing the best of what the classical art had to offer while we see all of contemporary art, most of which are garbage as art always were.

>>134288016
Monet is a hack and you know it.
Modern art, even those included before the 20th century, is by essence, degenerate. They may be nice looking at times, but they are still degenerate art.

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>>134285459
Idk, but I heard that the boys are back in town

>>134289074
Most of the current "artists" are goyim as well. It's still the Jews though.

btw this is all because of the fall of moral standards western culture became very vague and art should usually inspire on a higher level or at least stand on some philosophical principles, this is the complete opposite it's nihilistic, post-modern minimalistic trash. It's role is not to construct upon culture but to deconstruct it and essentially bring it to a meaningless point. That's why people now find the new messiah in Harry Potter or Star Wars, they are constantly bombarded with this anti-west blackpill propagabda nonstop but they still crave for some moral compass.

>>134287994
See, this is the problem. For most of history people recreated art and retold stories. This was an important part of culture and tradition. basically you were revivifying your ancestors.

Now people ask, 'Is it new?' rather than 'Is it good?' You want to know how many paintings of the Triumph Over Fate there were? Or how many retellings of Faust there were? Each became famous because they were good, and the retellings played a significant part in perfecting the arts.

The greatest paradox of modernity is that everyone pushes so hard to become an individual but they are more the same than ever.

>>134288253
you can lead a donkey to water but you can't make it drink.
the same way with immigration, it wouldn't be possible to import millions of people into europe of there wasn't a sense of apathy, guilt and self-flagellation.

btw I'm not comparing them in any other way than that they both happened because we allowed it to happen, it wasn't jew brainwashing

pollock is an exercise with the bare necessities, both technically and conceptually. technically in the sense that paint has painterly features that can be explored; it can pool, it can run, it can splatter and so on. conceptually because it's literally paint that looks like paint splattered on a canvas and we're still able to make connections in our minds. you're lying if you think there's "nothing" there, there's quite obviously different kinds of motions, different kinds of force, different shapes relating to each other and to the confines of the canvas. the entire area of design is built around the idea of conjuring up specific emotions using abstract shapes, color schemes and compositional methods so it's not like we're talking about weird wizard magic here.

the worth of the paintings comes from the fact that he's an important cultural touchstone, not wether you deem his paintings to be beautiful or not

>>134289133
What an idiotic argument.
In the past, there were far fewer opportunities to become artists, so only the ones who showed the necessary skill and talent were given the opportunity. I'm guessing even the most mediocre artists from the Renaissance would be better than 99% of contemporary artists.

You're also ignoring that the focus is entirely different. In the past, technical skill and the visual aspect reigned supreme, so even if you were a shallow piece of shit, you'd still learn the technical skills required to create art. Contemporary art schools don't teach you shit about the technical aspects of art. They teach you how to become an artist, and that only ideas matter.
If you actually want to learn to draw or paint, you have to go to a school that teaches drawing and painting as a craft.

>>134285765
>posts a pic where christians aren't allowed to live

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>>134289505
Not bad

>>134287866
>>134288064
>Hitler killed himself in a bunker and there's no evidence otherwise

>>134289505
>pollock is an exercise with the bare necessities, both technically and conceptually. technically in the sense that paint has painterly features that can be explored; it can pool, it can run, it can splatter and so on. conceptually because it's literally paint that looks like paint splattered on a canvas and we're still able to make connections in our minds. you're lying if you think there's "nothing" there, there's quite obviously different kinds of motions, different kinds of force, different shapes relating to each other and to the confines of the canvas. the entire area of design is built around the idea of conjuring up specific emotions using abstract shapes, color schemes and compositional methods so it's not like we're talking about weird wizard magic here.

This is the kind of mental masturbation that destroyed art. Nothing you're saying actually has any merit, because it can be said about anything. And no, Pollock's shit does not conjure any emotions or concepts besides what your own mind makes up, which again can be said about absolutely anything.

>>134289131
Nonsense. He had some contacts with anarchists but that was about it. He never fought or supported any side in the war.

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>>134289871
Pic related proves otherwise

>>134289235
This is because you are all talk, while (((they))) actually invest money into (((modern art))).
Call it money laundering or whatever, the money is THERE for the artist to get at least some of.
In classic art everyone "admires" you, but pretty much no one is willing to pay even an equivalent of 20$/hour for your work.
To be more specific — you personally are not willing to pay up.

>>134288663
>>134288366
Pretty good point, but the point I was making is that scam or not, many of these "post modern" painters can't paint worth a shit, while Picasso was really good at it. I don't disagree he was a scammer though, just saying he at least had some semblance of talent

>>134289901
Your second sentence is the whole point. You are a dullard.

>>134286721
That's something a kike would say

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>>134289932
Yeah, I guess joining a communist party and getting prizes named after Lenin and Stalin doesn't make him a communist.

>>134289963
>filename
20170411132600 was the datetime he killed himself?
Who's left in this thread? Garbage shitters trying to make a living on 10k per year (but muh qualifications for free phones!)

You also have to keep in mind photography. Kind of defeats the purpose of realism when a camera takes a much more realistic image. You can capture the moment a man gets shot in the head. Painting it would be banal in comparison, even if the real image is cruel.

So no doubt the very environment of modernity pushes painting towards the abstract, and that which cannot be represented by photography.

>>134290089
The second sentence? So you agree with me, yet call me a dullard?
You people really are as dumb as you're made out to be.

>>134285539
>Chaim i think this ((((art)))) will make the shekel room more shoah
>And we need this random paint on a wall , my nose csnt without it
>Poor chaim is forced to spend millions of shekels on shit
Women are the real kikes of the world.

>>134285459
The proper use of modern art is essentially as dialogue between artists artists: mark making, color theory, shape language, composition, concept, etc..
Unfortunately the space, which would otherwise be occupied by the most intelligent and skilled individuals, has been occupied by useful idiots and bohemian derelicts determined to act as springboards for the wealthy. Any low hanging ideological component or societal commentary only exists as a hook for academics to be sucked into increasing their valuations.

>>134290159
Okay, my bad. he became a communist in his sixties. Still irrelevant for most of his work.

>>134290164
Judas Priest, man. Relax. Laugh a little.

>>134285459
Most of the people who enjoy modern "art", are so brainwashed into the idea that they must be accepted by pseudo-intellectuals, that they'll accept anything no matter how absurd, that their peers push on them.

>>134285459
It's used to buy drugs and sex slaves.
The "piece" is created with minimal effort, and put into a gallery by those seeking to launder money. The gallery viewing makes the piece more "legit".
The piece is later sold with a free cargo container full of cocaine/sex slaves(no extra charge).

It's the perfect money laundering technique because law enforcement cannot tell an "artist" what his painting is worth.

>>134285459
Mordern art is intellectual fraud

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>>134290361
Don't worry just helping. tyf time felt

>>134285539
Speak of the devil.
>>134287955

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reminder that a satisfying, well thought out visual composition does not have to be representational to fuck all

these threads are usually populated by bitter fedoras who want to be angry about something they don't really understand

(that being said, significant portion of contemporary art is a jewish money laundering scheme)

Combination of money laundering, elitism and looking at history through tinted lens. Olden times also had shitty art, they just weren't preserved.

>>134290266
>You also have to keep in mind photography. Kind of defeats the purpose of realism when a camera takes a much more realistic image.
This argument again? How fucking stupid do you have to be if you think painters ever achieved photorealism? Even painters who aimed for realism clearly has their own styles that set it apart from an actual photo.

>You can capture the moment a man gets shot in the head. Painting it would be banal in comparison, even if the real image is cruel.
Except you can't. You have to be there and get lucky, if you want a photo of something spectacular. With painting, you can paint whatever you want.

But hey, why don't you go out and take a photo of someone getting shot in the head? Why don't you take a picture of an angel? Heck, take a picture of God.
I'll be waiting.

>22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."
>23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."
The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals

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>>134290285
Yes. The artist is not telling you what to think or feel. It's up to you. Now, you don't have to like it. You might prefer a still life that leaves no mistake about what the picture is of. But just because you don't get something, doesn't mean it's shit.

>>134289034
You're so edgy. As I said you are an idiot.
It's ok, the world need some. I even need some to make money on your back.

>>134289901
>because it can be said about anything.

art is about thinking creatively about what's being presented in the art space. imagine someone sculpting a tree with no discernible difference from the real thing. you either have to think some lazy charlatan has dragged the real thing into the room or you have to marvel at the skill involved in carving out all those leaves. in both cases you're missing the point. there's a physical object put there for you to toy with, mentally speaking. you're free to do anything with it

you're viewing it through this small lense of "what's so great about color splatter?" when it's basically like discovering the cell. the cell was always there but someone had to point it out for us. pollock pointed to the character of paint on canvas

>>134290592
You're not very bright, are you? First images known of someone being shot are in WWI, and the most famous is from the Spanish Civil War. Now you have cameras that take multiple shots a second.

And it's a sound argument. One of the aspects of mastery is skill, and that is photo-realism. Or do you think Rembrandt and Michelangelo would have been just as respected for throwing shit at a canvas?

What is your fucking argument? It's degenerate nonsense.

>>134290682
>The artist is not telling you what to think or feel. It's up to you.
And that's the problem, you complete imbecile. That's how the placebo effect works. If you take any random object and present it as art, you'll get different emotional reactions from different people, even if there's no artist or any effort put into the random object you're showing. They've actually tested this by measuring how people's brains react when they were told something is art. People will judge something differently if they're told it's art, even if it's just a random object.

It's basically The Emperor's New Clothes.

A real artist has the skill and talent to actually tell a story with their art and evoke specific emotions. There's always going to be a huge subjective component to art, but the emotions evoked from looking at random splatterings have absolutely no merit. It's just mental masturbation by the pretentious assholes.

>>134285459
the bar for art got lowered again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tZamFKyPwM

how can people listen to this shit

2 words
money laundering

>>134291440
So deep. So cultured.
This one's where it's at:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RBRJVUsI48

>>134285459
im a modern artist ama

>>134285459
Because you haven't taken an art history course. That muh renaissance period shit is over done now.

>>134291102
>You're not very bright, are you?
I'm actually stunned at the stupidity of your post.

>One of the aspects of mastery is skill, and that is photo-realism. Or do you think Rembrandt and Michelangelo would have been just as respected for throwing shit at a canvas?
You think Rembrandt or Michaelangelo created photorealistic art? I don't know what to say. You're either blind or insane.

>What is your fucking argument?
That photography did not replace painting, because painting is rarely meant to be photorealistic, and you can't take photos of what you imagine. You can only take photos of what's in front of you.
But again, prove me wrong. Take a photo of someone getting shot in the head. Take a photo of God. Take a photo of a battle in ancient Greece.

>>134291283
>>134290682 (You)

>A real artist has the skill and talent to actually tell a story with their art and evoke specific emotions
t. I can't be challenged to interpret art on my own.
You're a nincompoop

>>134291608
renaissance people thought their paintings were photorealisitics
just like we thought old games had crazy graphics
see the non realism as a sort of snapchat filter to make all the kangz pretty

ITT: normal people and plebs that need to see pretty colours and photorealistic rubbish to appreciate art

>>134291283
>And that's the problem, you complete imbecile.

for someone who's creative there's beauty to be found all over the place. utzon peeled an orange and was inspired to design the sidney opera house. a designated art space is asking you to try out this mode of thinking. most normal people filter out everything that's not obviously valuable as noise and that is a legitimate way to go about your daily business but it's not what art is about.

>>134291682
You're not interpreting anything, you easily manipulated fuck. You're just thinking random thoughts while looking at some splatterings. There's no meaning behind it.

A talented artist will actually create something that can be interpreted, because there's something to interpret.

>>134291943
was monet bad

>>134291608
You're literally a retard. You think someone can paint an ancient battle when they haven't seen it?

Yes, Rembrandt and Michelangelo were creating works that were as realistic as possible in terms of human representation. Is this not what Michelangelo is know for, especially in his sculptures?

And is it not precisely the opposite that the Nazis termed degenerate, the purposeful deformation of the human form?

You can easily search for the photos of getting shot on your own. And I never made any argument about taking photos of God or angels, but yeah, it's doable.

How many movies are there with representations of angels? Or do you believe people are actually painting God? Again, what the fuck is your argument? It makes no sense.

A better example would be 9/11. Compared to the realistic images a painting would be banal.

As well, the disappearance of realism in painting coincides with its rise in literature. And yet, you will likely stick by your claim that it is just due to degeneracy and those Joos who control everything.

>>134291779
>renaissance people thought their paintings were photorealisitics
No, they didn't.
I'm still waiting for that photo of God.

>>134291903
>a designated art space is asking you to try out this mode of thinking
I live my life thinking like this. But that doesn't mean contemporary art has any merit at all.
If I go to an art exhibit, I want to look at something exceptional that I'm not going to see in the outside world. I want to look at art.

I don't want to look at low-effort splatterings, poorly drawn, abstarct cartoons or conceptual art made by politically indoctrinated, pretentious assholes.

>>134289505
I'm not saying splattering paint couldn't be art. But FINE ART? No. When some paintings are insanely valued only because of the name who made it, there is something very wrong and phony in it. If I had a unkown Pollock splattering painting and I would lie that I, a normal guy did it, art critics would probably AT BEST say it's "pretty nice". But at the same second I would prove it's Pollocks, it would be changed into "amazing fine art" with million dollar price tag.

>>134285459
money laundering

>>134291511
This.

>>134292368
people would mistake a painting for a window. yes they did.
because a drawing of "god" should amaze me?

>>134292368
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jz_O6UHBVe0

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>>134291511
4 words
Poo in a loo

>>134285459
Money laundering plays a big part

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>>134290341
wow jewish women sound fun

>>134292275
No, I like Monet. Back then, people knew how to mix figurative reality with the fantastic and the abstract, in order to create something new.

>>134292320
You're quite possible the dumbest person I've ever talked to.
I don't know what to say. You don't see the difference between paintings and photography. You don't understand that paintings can depict anything, while photographies can only depict what's in front of you. And you don't see the merit of depicting something that can't be photographed.
This absolute stupidity is just astonishing.

>>134292368
Excactly, you don't want to look at it and you have the right to do so. It doesn't mean contemporary art is shit, mr centre of the universe.

>>134286282

http://archive.is/gB1Dc

> How does one launder money using art work?

> You start with a sum of dirty money, say, 1 million dollars in cash.
> You look out for an auction event and look for some art masterpieces to bid for.
> You use up your 1 million dollars dirty cash in exchange for a number of art masterpieces.
> You bring those art masterpieces to the bank, take up a loan amounting to 900,000 dollars (or even 1 million if you have good connection), using the art masterpieces as collaterals.
> You now have clean money loaned from the bank.

>>134292537
>because a drawing of "god" should amaze me?
Because figurative art can depict something you can't depict with photography, because photography can only depict what is in front of you. You can't photograph the imagination, while a good artist can depict anything, in any style.

Anyway, I give up.
I can't deal with people this fucking stupid.

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>>134291943
>You're not interpreting anything
Pic related

>>134292755
No, you just have no understanding of art and you keep insisting on irrational demands for stupid shit. I never said there was no difference between art and photography, only that photographic realism placed new demands on painting - which had, in many ways reached an endpoint of realism.

You ignore the fact that the masters were creating realistic imagery, and this skill was a huge part of their being respected.

I understand perfectly well that paintings can portray anything (although not the psyche apparently?). It is you that denies that certain photographs exist and that photography can depict anything as well.

I have to wonder if you're autistic or just a teenager. Have you ever read anything about art?

>>134292412
>But FINE ART? No.

in 1000 years people will still say pollock was on the crest of something new in painted art. it was a watershed moment. that's just how it is and how it will be written about in the history books

>But at the same second I would prove it's Pollocks, it would be changed into "amazing fine art" with million dollar price tag.

art it seen as the ultimate expression of human creativity and the closest way to "owning" it is to have the original work. obviously it's a futile exercise but it if you have the money it's probably the closest you can get to owning something meaningful. that's why it's so desirable. it's a high-end hobby for refined people with cash to spend

>>134292368
I'll never deny you your personal taste. I'm just saying you'll miss out on the latest developments in architecture, design, visual arts and movies if you don't keep an open mind. you wont be able to cut it as a critic, as a buyer or as a creator. you'll just be on the receiving end when the battle is over

>>134293028
>completely disregards photomanipulation and abstract photography
W E W

>>134293028
which has nothing to do with anything i said
you fucking retard you

>>134291943
You say that painting has nothing to do with photo-realism. So why are you arguing that there's a cutoff point where it's not realistic enough? If some element of realism must exist for there to be interpretation then there also must be a correlation to photo-realism.

You want to cut both ways. You're retarded and degenerate.

>>134285459
>Why is modern "art" absolute trash?

It happened around the time that people started considering digital "art" to be art.

>>134285765
I was there, and its actually pretty nice. Its a church anyways, so i dont see the problem.

>>134293028
Calls everyone else stupid.
Doesn't understand that in photography and video there are methods of depicting the imagination. Nor that everything isn't real.

Like a nigger he believes that those are really little people inside the tv.

>>134285459

C I A has been behind a lot of modern art.

Art is a handy way of money laundering for criminals. Ever see the bullshit that gets sold for tens of millions? Notice how art is most valuable after the person who painted it is dead? I'm not saying all art is like this, there's some geniunally good stuff but when you show me three blank canvases on the wall and tell me that it'll be worth something one day, I smell a rat.

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>he isn't familiar with the 45 objectives of communism to take over the west
See objective 23

This was a document printed in 1963 and disseminated to high ranking ideological subversion agents in colleges and government agencies.
>You are now aware that the Soviet Union won the cold war, and Russia as a nation is a ruse

>>134293409
is it not you fucking edgelord

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Post-modernism and modernism are the best thinks that happen to fine art.
(But I wouldn't say that about philosophy)

You're right on the money, whenever the jews get involved everything turns mediocre

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>>134287866

For about 150 years now artists and their patrons have been in a leveling match to see who can produce or own more abstract art than the next guy. They reached the point where the work doesn't have a discernible topic and now much of the art community is looking at each other thinking what now?
Anyways- you may be looking to deep into this. It's just the product of a trend that may have gone too far or (more precisely) got to its end too quickly

>>134293687
ohh interesting that's pretty much what russia is doing in europe right now

>>134294052
No, Russia has no interest in western Europe (yet). Once the US collapses they can just run them over with nary a shot fired. The objective is to collapse America, and they are doing a damn good job. Do a Google search on "Yuri Bezmenov".

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How come so few can paint like this now?

>>134293687
ah yes the ultimate RED pill comrade, get it RED pill because red is the color of communism my friend

>>134294488
because of electricity

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>>134294488
Because people used to paint, play musical instruments, sculpt, and do everything with PASSION and for their own enjoyment. Over decades they honed their craft into excellence.
Now people paint for good grades in their college class, for the approval of their masters who want to destroy western culture.

>>134287673

>complains about cherry picking
>does the same thing

>>134294488
They can, but why would they?

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>>134285459
There are all kinds of modern art.
This is modern art too:

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>Modern art

>>134285459
In a way, but it's mostly the moronic and low iq population that takes them seriously.
(((They))) influenced the people, so this is more or less an unintended side-effect.

>>134287441
>it developed before the jews had worldwide influence
like when, 2000 bc ?
lurk more.

People pay big money for gay movie props used in their favorite capeshits by celebrity fagboy #54, why wouldn't people pay big money for _the_ paintings of famous people who have spent well over 10,000 hours on their craft?

>muh blank white paintings

those were a joke, just like the cans of poop, hilarious ass jokes that people paid big money for because they'll also pay tens of thousands of dollars to own Ace Ventura's hawaiian shirt, they're rich ass collectors you whining pleb faggots

shit tons of modern art is great, and I'll provide you with none, because pearls before swine

>muh cia dabbled in the art world

they also dabbled in FUCKING EVERYTHING so you better disavow movies, tv, music, food, literature, etc.. because that has spook stank all over it too ya faggoloinioinis

>>134288159
thats a blueprint house in 3D.
amazing idea.
blueprints are neat.

>>134285459

Remember that, like Muslims (who of course learned it from Jews), they have taboos about visual representation. Their God is invisible and cannot be represented. This informs their psychology.

Jews think everything is words. The visual is goyish and inferior to the holy "word". Everyfuckingthing is "language" to Jews. That's why modern art of that type is non representational.

They also participate in an ethnic motif of wandering in the wilderness of the world of the goyim, which is like a phantasmagoric house of horrors to them. That's another reason for Jewish visual "art".

And of course they eschew the visual and a focus on beauty because they themselves are a bunch of ugly inbreds.

>>134285459
Modern 'art' requires an authority figure to tell you what it means, rather than it having an obvious, universal appeal.

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Modern art is terrible, now modern architecture...

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>>134296484

>>134287441
>it's more the modern psyche

Maybe this notion is itself Jewish. Maybe the modern world is actually okay, and the idea is indicative of another Jewish fixation on alienation that has been projected into society at large and ratified by a Jewish intellectual echo chamber.

Jews are cut off from nature; they are the ones with divided selves; they are the ones supposedly forever wandering homeless.

A healthy White man doesn't feel that kind of alienation from the world. He exists in nature. Jews do not.

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>>134296522

>>134286149
>rich idiots
>idiots
This is perfect and legit money laundering scheme.

>>134286282
>D - drug dealer
>B - banker
>A - Artist
>D buys "art" piece fro an legit $1 from unknown A. Year after "suddenly" A is new star his art growth in price
>D sells "art" to B on auction for $1 million. Now D has $1 million of absolutely legal money to buy cars and houses on his name.
>under table D gives 1.5 million of cache and bag of coke to B. Now B has 1.5 million of unaccounted cache for bribes, whores and more coke. (50% laundering premium as example)
>A can sell new peaces for "art" for significant sums of money now
>everyone is happy.

>>134285648

(((They))) pissed off the wrong hopeful art student.

>>134286138
>>134287080
>sweden

>>134285459
Art is being used to buy and sell illegal things. When a big payment has to be made for something and they do not want to look suspicious they whip out the art. Art has no set value.

Look at my country we just bought a couple 100 of millions of euro's in Rothschild art.

>>134285848
>I'm actually red pilled

How to know when some isn't redpilled, lesson one.
Better check who were behind the soviets, retard.

""""" modern art"""""""" is not really art. Its just a money laundering scheme

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>>134296572
Yeah. Games, animation, design of things (cars and other) is new art. Point is that there is no point in perfecting of reality capture >>134294488.

Every dumb whore with iphone does it better than any painter. Point became to create things that don't exist in realty yet and are more beautiful than realty itself. (beauty is subjective here it means that people choose that yet non-existing things over straight copy of reality). Things photo camera can't do, you cant photograph something that doesn't exist.

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Of course they are behind it

>>134285459
Hating modern art is essentially screaming to the world "I'M A FUCKING RETARD". Art isn't about who can draw the prettiest picture you literal autists.

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>>134299092
>Art isn't about who can draw the prettiest picture you literal autists.
It is.

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>>134298416
This.

And also the love destroying culture.

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>>134288404
I remember this clip. It was enlightening.

Modern art is a way for the Jews to create wealth out of garbage. They do so by using their Jew network to decide what art has value and what does not. They promote artists that align with their degeneracy. It's a scam created solely to create wealth out of nothing and spread (((their))) message. Hitler despised this type of art because of this.

>>134299092
Here, have something you appreciate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RM1oTw6fPg

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>>134295351

>>134286138
The only hole needed to be filled is your anus, Sven

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It's a money laundering scam of course. Say a (((foundation))) wants to jazz up its lobby - they will take $1MM of some donation funds and buy a painting from who they need to pay.
Clean money desu.

>>134299470
why are the letter is 3 rows not four... ducking idiots... looking for anything

>>134287402
I hate this place, and they way shit from it spills back into Tate Britain.
FFS

>>134288404
Thank you for posting this. I'm looking for any good documentaries to watch ... have anymore that you'd recommend?

>>134285459
Art tends to reflect the society of the time it was made. What does this garbage tell you about the state of our society?

>>134289074
Read 'The Painted Word' by Tom Wolfs.
Clement (((Greenberg))) and Harold (((Rosenberg))) and Leo (((Steinberg))) are behind abstract expressionism & all the hype of that time.

>>134301127
Civilisation by Kenneth Clarke.

Part 1 here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6qYjisp51M

>>134300503
The nose knows.

>>134286640
thread's over

>>134285765
i smoked weed in front of this church out in the open during hanfparade in 2002 and like a good burger ate at the kfc thats nearby

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>>134285459
This picture is really activating that guy's almonds

>>134301417
Holy shit you're right. Just look at how hostile everything became against him. Defenitly going to buy that book, thanks.

>Other critics responded with such similar vitriol and hostility that Wolfe said their response demonstrated that the art community only talked to each other. A review in The New Republic called Wolfe a fascist and compared him to the brainwashed assassin in the film The Manchurian Candidate. Wolfe was particularly amused, however, by a series of criticisms that resorted to "X-rated insults." An artist compared him to "A six-year-old at a pornographic movie; he can follow the action of the bodies but he can't comprehend the nuances." A critic in Time Magazine used the same image, but with an 11-year-old boy. A review in The New York Times Book Review used the image again, clarifying that the boy was a eunuch.[8] The opening of Krauss's review in Partisan Review compared Wolfe to the star of the pornographic film Deep Throat. The reviewer viewed Wolfe's lack of a suggestion for what should replace modern art as similar in its obtuseness to statements Linda Lovelace made about Deep Throat being a "kind of goof."[5]

>>134287285
In 20 years we'll have shitposts put up on the walls of the finest art musea
This post will be one of them for its meta-artistique radical critique qualities.

>>134285459
Because of the removal of standards in the art society. Bad art isn't shit anymore, it's just "different".

>>134302285
performance art?

>>134285459

It might also be meant to be unappealing for money laundering purposes.
It is not meant to be looked at.
Modern art is the currency of money laundering through auctions and insurance schemes.

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Wanted derodation of culture that is visable to the average Joe.

>>134285459
I imagine it's to create the illusion that everything exists only in the mind rather than in the real world. It's a denial of the existence of truth.

Go buy non-degenerate art then you faggots, but you won't because not a single one of you really cares about it except on /pol/.

>>134305991
I do. I bought landscape paintings several times from the flea market, because I diddn't want to support a gallary.
On the other hand maybe I should, because otherwise they would never change their stock.

>>134305074
Tell me that's shadow or dust and not decay from that brutalist structure that's starting to infect the older building.

>>134300639
It can't be 4 because it only goes to nine, you fucking retard.

>>134285617
I forget where, but I read an article on that

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>>134285617
>>134286221
>all just a money laundering scam
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/05/13/arts/design/art-proves-attractive-refuge-for-money-launderers.html

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>>134285953
>CIA ruined art to subvert USSR cultural influence
I saw some Rothko paintings at Harvard's art museums. Not surprised.

>>134292729
they love anal

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>>134309509
They also had this shit in a gallery across from one with Van Goghs and Piccasos.

>>134309285
modern ''art'' is a laundering scam and it is used by the pedophiles... sthe three letter agency is also a part (look into the finders)

going to arthaus . org will also make some interesting results

>>134297272
I want to think some of these artists are in on it too. Hell, you could be a drug dealer and make some bullshit art to launder money.

which museum is the most retarded with their modern art?

>>134285459
>Why is modern "art" absolute trash?

to keep it exclusive to laundering drug money

>>134296484
>>134296522
>>134296572
I too enjoyed Mirror's Edge

>>134286282
>can you please elaborate?

when you sell a lot of drugs or illegal weapons it becomes difficult to move around billions of dollars in cash, being able to move a painting un declared for values across national borders becomes an important commodity, like they have to keep moving the gold back and forth but the shit weighs a ton and everyone knows what it is, a squirrily picture of some hairy balls thats worth millions is a much more useful asset in that enterprise to the point where a lot of these drug kingpins are moving drug money around with fake paintings

>>134285459
laundering money for child trafficking/ organ harvesting/other despicable cia stuff

>>134309802
>arthaus . org


?? what are you talking about with this?

>>134309822
>I want to think some of these artists are in on it too.

yeah most of these modern artists have to bid on their own works at auction to keep the price up so their folio of buyers don't drop them like a cold turd and they won't be able to pay their rent

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>>134309893
and human trafficking money

>>134310256
first thing you notice on the site is the infamous logo. going through webarchives of galleries and the current ones, you just see enough symbology to reallymakeyouthink..

then you go on to see it is sponsored by raydon corp, a military vr company.. has connections with dyncorop..the mayor of the town, port orange i think it was is also into some shady stuff

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>>134310256
>>134309802
>arthaus
So how do I make some garbage like this and get me some drug lord sugar daddy money?

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now it's art

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>>134310517
>modern art is a cia psy op
>modern art is often used to launder drug money
Hol up.
Are you sayin.
Are you implyin.
Dat der is some connection with drug money and th CIA?

>>134310492
screencap anything like that

you saw how the demokikes panicked when they got outed as being pedosatanists changing logos left and right, scrubbing news stories.

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ITT brainlets

>>134285715
Is it Sir Roger Scruton's 'Why Beauty Matters'?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHw4MMEnmpc

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lolzzzzzz

>muh all modern art is money laundering trash
>muh technical skills are the most important
>muh classic aesthetics > all

the autistic and retarded should not discuss art

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>>134310517
>>134310712
http://imgur.com/a/Gahb2

Because people are taught that realism is nothing more than copying the real world, nothing more than what cameras do.

Realism allows one the depict motives, stories and feelings in a language that is globally understood, the visual languages.
Something that is long lost with modern art, art only understood by the art teachers and curators of today.

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>>134310559
I got ya m8

>>134303093
You might have missed this. Confirms all that's said in this thread.

http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2011/09/21/mark-rothko-abstract-expressionism-and-the-decline-of-western-art/

>>134298816
Yep, and (((they))) did the same thing to Russia, ruined every aspect of their culture. But I think Bolshevik or Jew would be more accurate than Soviet.

>>134303093
Also, there is this, but I haven't read this yet, about Tom Wolfe.
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2013/09/09/is-tom-wolfe-a-race-realist-part-1-of-3/

>>134285459
I CAN SELL SALT TO A SNAIL
WATER TO A WHALE

http://archive.is/J7ynh

Original Post - >>111285111

Pedophile Symbol (boylover) featured on their logo

http://www.arthaus.org/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/118997193@N07/
https://www.instagram.com/arthaus_port_orange_/

Funding and support have been provided in part by the following:

Volusia County, FL
City of Port Orange, FL
Raydon Corporation

Raydon Corporation (Military VR Company)

(board member) Lt Gen Carol Mutter (Raydon Corp, Neah Power Systems)
NPS - Govt grant from Department of Energy


(Dyncorp + Raydon)
https://www.linkedin.com/in/sandra-porter-8b21b989
https://www.linkedin.com/in/flovell
Delivery and Scheduling Administrator
Raydon Corporation
December 2010 – January 2015 (4 years 2 months)

Transportation Management Specialist
DynCorp Int
October 2004 – September 2005 (1 year)

Raydon Corp search on youtube - weird results (juvenile diabetes research foundation/orange country non profits)

liberal artists

Patricia Piccinini
Kim Noble

826dc

Quick Rundown:
>ArtHaus uses a pedo-spiral in its logo
>Tons of renovations despite the building looking like an absolute shitheap
>Port Orange funds were mismanaged over the course of a decade, City of Port Orange is on the list of people who originally requested and paid for permits for renovations on the building - multiple times
>In 2000 a man named Ted Doran was on the board of directors
>he was arrested on 2 counts of molestation

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>>134310256
>>134309802
I actually like this artist and style. Saw some similar landscapes at a local museum exhibit.

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>>134311509
They can't all be in on the drug and human trafficking rights, r-right?

>>134311509
youre looking at something completely different.. did you find those pics in the website?

>>134288417
Classic art would sell, people still like it

>>134285459
>Are (((they))) behind it?
They are behind everething, mein froind.

>>134285459
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/modern-art-was-cia-weapon-1578808.html

>>134285459
Artist:
>tired of slinging shit on the canvas
>they'll take anything as art
>give them empty canvas while I get high
>get paid even more

>>134311443
>Port Orange

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-molestation-suspect-arrested-port-orange-20170304-story,amp.html

It's easy to launder money with modern "art".

Is there some evil conspiracy abound as to why it has become so prevalent? Not really. It's simply a result of the shitty post-modern era we are currently living in. Blame people like Derrida if you really want a scapegoat.

>>134286971
Looks like roastbeef from down under.

>>134311628
yeah. was one of the few that looked decent
huh. guess this is a different sitw?
http://www.arthaus-sf.com/portfolio/carolyn-meyer/

>>134311687
You can buy naturalist paintings on the streets for barely more than the canvas itself is worth, because anybody can do it, it requires no artistry, you simply have to learn the craft of copying photos, mixing paint and using the brush in an effective way.

>>134311761
especially behind navalny

>>134311858
yes these are unrelated..however i do remember a german anon posting some ''arthaus'' in germany with an ''interesting'' logo

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>>134285459
>Are (((they))) behind it?
Do you really need to ask?

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They've changed what "art" as a word means and have set the bar so low that any snowflake can undertake any project and be heralded a genius. There's also the part where one doesnt pay taxes over art, and modern art is used to hide money from the taxman. None of these pieces are kept with the intend of keeping them around but rather to sell on to the next buyer. Sadly some fools will be tricked into thinking this is real art.

Real art is a form of mastery, to master a set of skills and technique necessary to accomplish something very difficult to attain. Something that can never be perfected, but has a perfect ideal one should always strife towards. This is why one refers to proper fighting as a martial art.

It's been a combination of children of the elite wanting to be artists but not being prepared to actually work for it, identity politics regarding what art and artists are and an attempt to undermine beauty for the sake of producing cheap shit.
True the regressive left has no soul.

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>>134312259

>>134311981

>Show your work

>>134312445
Who are you quoting?

>>134312529
>>>/ic/catalog

>>134312638
I don't understand.

(((They))) have good taste, that's all.

>>134293028
If these peole were so great at imagination then why would they flock to mentally challenged Marxist theories?

>>134297761
(((They))) did. (((They))) made a mistake.

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>>134288417
I am the starving artist

Mind you im pretty shit at it, but im helping other people get into the art world.

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>>134312692
It's a meme from /ic/.
When people claim something is easy, or that their own work is better, they get told to prove it by posting their work for comparison.

Suggesting that all Michelangelo had to do was pick up a chisel and move it correctly, in order to make pic shown, shows how little you understand about making art.

>>134312883
I'm also an artist. I'm about to log off to go & take paintings to the framers. And they are Realist, and not 'Modern' shit.

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>>134313074
based

Do you ever do more abstract or stylized stuff? Im a big fan of Art Nouveau

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These galleries need to get with the times.

>>134313233
I done some Tuner-style abstract pieces, not too shit. People like large statement bits for their walls.
Art Nouveau is excellent, yup.

>>134285459
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1855938

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>>134312259
just brutal
http://www.architectmagazine.com/design/buildings/architects-look-forward-and-back-at-boston-city-hall-and-plaza_o

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>>134285571
>heritage has to be repentive

>>134285459
Because (we) think that we find something in everything.

so which establishment is pushing this the hardest? san fran comes to mind