What the fuck did you do /pol?! We will lose billions from

>>134259421
Thats why Trump didn't just leave it outright. Agriculture senator convinced him to renegotiate it to keep the farming shit in.

>>134259421
But america is invincible. Between sugar and corn just throw two trillion more a year at it making shitty bio fuel that brazil does much better. Using sugar

>>134259421
The farmers should be fucked over anyways. They are literally paid not to plant shit, and then paid to turn corn into shitty fuel that costs everyone money. Farming is just a government welfare service at this point. Also, that entire picture just describes something that COULD happen at the very worst. It isn't even a solid fact.

>>134259421
>%98
I wonder from where we get the money to pay for that.

>>134259421
they still want to keep protecting their industry while having us open our markets for their products tho

same as the yuros, they don't want fair trade deals

and what you should post is the % of american corn that goes to mexico, not the % of corn in mexico that comes from the USA

But how do we fix this? We can't have Mexico going elsewhere for our goods

>>134259421
Isn't corn what's making us all gay and retarded?

Good, maybe corn subsidies stop as well and we can stop putting high fructose corn syrup into everything.

>>134264047
No. Fluoride is doing that

>>134259421
Good. Fuck farmers. They're the ones importing all the Mexicans to pick their crops. All farmers deserve to be killed.

>>134259421
Yeah, great. $100 billion in agricultural subsidies to Monsanto to grow $2.5 billion of corn because the price is so artificially low.

Corn subsidies need to end immediately

>>134263776
Invade them.

>>134263776
>But how do we fix this?
Sell it to someone else. Or stop subsidising the corn industry, but that will never happen.

>>134261802
>>134264756
When the US corn subsidies went into place, it ruined all the Mexican corn farmers because they couldn't compete on price. Many of them simply switched to marijuana, poppies (opium) and other legal crops to which they sell to the US.

>>134264461
You meant to say females

>>134263776
If it were cheaper, why wouldnt Mexico already be getting their corn from argentina and brazil?

There are people all over the world who want corn from a country that doesnt poison its food.

22% of our corn is going to meheco.

File: 1498795755880.jpg (203KB, 836x1080px) Image search: [Google]

203KB, 836x1080px

>>134259421
Time to pull American companies out of Mexico, increase border security, start executing drug trafficers, etc...

>>134265015
Good answer.

So how do we fix that?

LEGALIZE!

>>134265015
And suddenly, out of work farm laborers in Mexico were suddenly "needed" in the US.

File: 1496607844188.png (2MB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 1920x1080px

Can we get rid of corn and cultivate something else?
It's literally a huge problem wtf to do with this corn.
We sell it to Mexico, we feed it to cows, we make ethanol for fuel out of it.
Why the fuck do we have so fucking much corn?

File: cashcropmoney.png (460KB, 2040x1634px) Image search: [Google]

460KB, 2040x1634px

>>134259421
Why does the US grow so much fucking corn, OP? Also, fuck (((soybeans))).

>>134265085
They need to sign the deals first, they already have one with us.

If Trump tore up that deal, they would instantly stop buying from us.

>>134265085
>what are tariffs?
>what are integrated supply chains?
>what are transportation costs?

>>134259421
That excess corn can go into alternative green energy source development. Boom, made a bullshit excuse against liberals.

>>134259421
Corny & gay
Sage

>>134259421
Wouldn't this allocate more corn so that ethanol is more viable in the US?

File: download (19).jpg (10KB, 258x196px) Image search: [Google]

10KB, 258x196px

>>134265974
What century are you in friggit?
>corn energy failure 20 years ago

File: corn-gas-MHPC.jpg (65KB, 800x390px) Image search: [Google]

65KB, 800x390px

>>134266123
Ethanol will never be viable - it's insane. The only reason why they ever pushed it has to do with the graphic I posted above.

>>134264461
growth hormone and estrogen. fluoride was last years meme

File: 1487223993894.jpg (113KB, 598x597px) Image search: [Google]

113KB, 598x597px

>>134265805
>the cotton segment is coloured like a nigger

kek

>>134261802
this exactly. as an iowan i can't wait to see corn go overseas. it requires mass subsidies which farmers abuse the shit out of (new 45k trucks every year), and it destroys the soil when it's not properly rotated with soy. our soil is grey dust anymore that won't even take fertilizer in some counties. most agriculture is better to outsource to poorer nations that can do it cheaper, and if you're going to do it yourself at least mechanize the shit out of everything and refuse to pay subsidies to farmers. america should be importing corn from south america at this point not exporting it.

Here's the solution: cut the military budget
$598 billion is rather unnecessary to fight a bunch on ragheads half the world away

>>134266123
Ethanol is corrosive and eats engines much faster. The US government has been trying to jumpstart the ethanol industry for a few decades now in the hopes that people will want to buy it.

Now they're kinda just forcing it onto people with minimum ethanol content in cars.

Its just like the solar power bullshit and electric cars: first it starts with subsidies, then come small mandates and laws, then it because enforced.

>>134266508
and what do the farmers do?

>>134259421
*maize

>>134266543
Fuck that! How can we police the world without the funds?

>>134259421
fucking great
the hyper subsidized corn industry has to die
root of many problems like obesity (corn syrup in every processed food), or the ethanol meme

>>134266123
Ethanol is less energy dense than alcohol. With a little bit of math it works out to 4% less power. That's 4% more gas you have to put in your tank.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnETtiRdTjU

File: corn-wrapped-in-money-fb.jpg (57KB, 1200x630px) Image search: [Google]

57KB, 1200x630px

>>134266672
>Ethanol is corrosive and eats engines much faster.
Thats just because it's alcohol - any type of alcohol would do that, and it's not hard to convert a fuel system to be able to use it (stainless steel, etc). Alcohol is actually a badass fuel, if any of you are familiar with the racing scene at all. The reason ethanol is shit is for other (((reasons))).

>>134259421
How about this: we'll take those hundreds of thousands of manufacturing jobs back, and they can grow their own fucking corn.

>>134266543
They can't, that's what is propping up the currency

>>134259421

Corn is a fucking terrible crop to be producing at the levels we do. It's literally killing us.

>>134266723
Get fucked or get a better job. Unfortunately due to the style of our government, they have an absurd amount of power. They will just keep manipulating the free market until it all comes crashing down. And again, there is always the possibility that with a true free market within the farming industry that prices could rise, and then mega farms would give way to smaller family style farms.

>>134266865
>Ethanol is less energy dense than alcohol.
Ethanol IS alcohol moron - don't spread misinfo.

File: Emasculated White Male.jpg (88KB, 706x728px) Image search: [Google]

88KB, 706x728px

>>134259421
I'm sure America will fall eventually if you keep it up..............

>>134266877
There are no alternatives for aluminum or iron engine blocks, stainless steel fuel system would be rather expensive, and rubber is rubber. These parts get corroded and wear out faster. We already have disposable cars, lets not make them trash after 50,000 miles.

E85 is about $1/gal cheaper than gasoline, but your car must be tuned to use it. You can't go from E85 one day to gas the next. The flexfuel vehicles are a marketing gimmick because the government again is trying to get people to buy ethanol.

>liberals totally ignorant of King Corn use misinformation in attempt to manipulate the rural farmers they publicly remind everybody they hate daily

>>134267025
Shit, I'm a fucking idiot...
I meant gasoline. >>134266865
There's more ethanol in my blood than in my gas tank right now.

>>134266672
works fine for us, although I still prefer oil, but we use sugarcane tho. When you live my city it's miles and miles of sugarcane

>>134267174
Iron is completely unaffected. Aluminum blocks have fucking steel cylinder sleeves - no piston makes direct contact with aluminum. You know nothing about cars.

>>134267335
Go ask /o/ then.

File: 73e4d4585e60c54cce50bf93ce5e50191c25ed6d_full.jpg (12KB, 184x184px) Image search: [Google]

12KB, 184x184px

>>134259421
my monsanto crops are good for you

>>134266508
A country that can't feed itself is not an independent nation. We don't need anywhere close to the amount of corn and wheat we grow but outsourcing our food supply to another country is incredibly stupid.

>>134266953
>we'll take those hundreds of thousands of manufacturing jobs back
good luck with that

robots probably caused more people to lose their old blue collar jobs than outsourcing
>>134267021
wouldn't some states pretty much go broke tho? seems politically unfeasible to just tell them to fuck off
maybe phasing the subsidies out would work
how many states could flip if you take their corn gibs away?

>>134267536
especially given the US is enormous and has tons of arable land

not using your natural gifts would just be dumb

File: 1500209965782.jpg (34KB, 640x360px) Image search: [Google]

34KB, 640x360px

>>134259421
>Oh no a crop that we have to already heavily subsidize in order for farmers to grow it might go down in value slightly.
WTF I love Monsanto now. Pic related of the Mexican American economic relations.

Hoosier here, we do corn. I'd rather have no Mexicans here than continue rolling in money

File: c3f829fa739c71d29bf7aa392ebc39b8.660x853x1.jpg (186KB, 660x853px) Image search: [Google]

186KB, 660x853px

>>134267536
Yeah, I wouldn't take it as far as outsourcing everything, but the farming industry needs to stop relying on government props. If that mean outsourcing some of it then so be it. It's better than what will happen if we continue down this path... (Pic related)

>>134265805
they subsidize it and feed it to livestock

who cares? after south america descends into civil war mexico will have no one but us to get corn from and we can just tell them to fuck off and starve to death

fuck mexico, and fuck mexicans

>>134267610
They would all flip if it was done poorly. I spoke harshly to make a point, but my real hope is that the mega cooperation farmers would give way to smaller family farms after subsidised stopped stifling competition. It would be a long process though, and the American government can't seem to handle anything that takes longer than two years.

File: tenor.gif (869KB, 498x280px) Image search: [Google]

869KB, 498x280px

>>134267975

>>134259421

Fuck farmers. If they can't exist without subsidies, they should close shop

Cattle eat corn among other animals idiots..What the fuck..

Mexico will never get the same deal from Argentina or Brazil. The distance is much much greater. It would be on the best interest for mexico to keep the deal, or less corn tortillas for them.

>>134268172
They can - they are literally paid, by our government, to NOT grow other types of crops.

That's where we're at, anon.

>>134259421
>You faggots better fix this!
Make ethanol. Run cars on corn alcohol. Have so much fuel that we drive the price of gasoline down world wide.

>>134268348
Or grow their own?

>>134268484
There are better ways of making alcohol than corn. Better types of alcohol, too. But even I don't think alcohol is the way to go, even if it makes my car go fast as fuck.

>>134259421
No one is even asking for a source on those numbers?

>>134268471
You dumb fucking nigger. If the government stopped paying them not to grow, overproduction would lower the prices of crops so much the farmers would go broke. Read about the Grangers and the Populist party of the late 1800s, as well as the AAA under FDR. You don't know what your talking about.

>>134268819
When I go to the store and buy an apple, the sticker more often than not says fucking Argentina. Are you intelligent enough to understand the connection here? Probably not.

>>134266723
who cares? our farmers use their welfare to lobby state legislatures to get more welfare. they're insanely corrupt on average.

>>134267536
i shouldn't have said outsource, i just meant let mexico grow their own food instead of insisting on exporting ours. it's not really a viable export for any wealthy nation when you're exporting to someone poorer than yourself who can grow it cheaper on their own. you end up taxing a healthier sector of the economy to maintain a stagnant and outdated sector that's trying to contract.

>>134259421
it's a win/win.

We can grow something else - crop diversity
and Mexico can improve their nutrition by eating less tortillas and chips

>>134259421
Oh the horror, our faggot subsidized agricultural industry might lose some shekels! #prayformonsanto
Eat shit you turbonigger

>>134268992
No fucking shit. Your comparing apples to corn. You have no fucking clue about the agrarian demise and FDR's time bomb do you?

>>134259421
Meanwhile
>But, however, we've got a problem with Mexico. Right now there's a lot of anti-American sentiment in Mexico. If the election were tomorrow in Mexico, you would probably get a left-wing, anti-American president of Mexico. That can't be good for America.
Said McCain
>Right. It would not be good for America or for Mexico.
Replied Kelly

>>134259421
2.5 billion is chump change. That meme is shit.

>>134259421
So we're subsidizing corn to send to spics to feed them so they reproduce more brown people to send right back here to commit crime and take government assistance

>>134269246
A simple "no, I don't understand the connection anon" would've been fine.

File: 2014_United_States_Products_Export_Treemap.png (159KB, 750x520px) Image search: [Google]

159KB, 750x520px

>>134267780
The subsidies exist to prevent farmers from over-growing and destabilizing an economy heavily based in agriculture (1920s America). So this means two things:
>1. the total yield is currently at a lower amount than the possible yield
>2. the initial purpose of the subsidies is not necessary if the economy isn't largely based in agriculture
So I guess the real question is how big is the agricultural industry in comparison to the entire economy?
>pic related
Doesn't seem to be that big, though of course this is only one set of statistics to read. I still haven't found a good source for this specific topic.

Good, let Mexico go elsewhere.

>>134269246
>implying farm subsidies are a good thing

Tens of billions are wasted each year in the US and EU propping up non-competitive farmers, who provide very little support to the economy, since farms barely employ anyone today.

File: 1475363612390.jpg (59KB, 655x527px) Image search: [Google]

59KB, 655x527px

>>134259421
It doesn't matter.
Farmers are subsidized anyways and won't be allowed to fail.

>wants more corn to make HFCS
Sweets kill more than the Streets, OP

>>134269514
You can't just magically grow other types of crops retard. If I were a farmer on the Midwest plains, I would grow corn, because corn is well suited for the environment. Apples require completely different tools and supplies to grow. Along side of that Argentina already has a massive foothold in the apple industry, as well as better land for growing apples. Mega farms have no interest in diversifying their crops, and would go broke if they attempted to do so. It's corn or nothing.

>>134269285
this

>>134269911
>It's corn or nothing
You dumbass mother fucker. I grew up on a farm. In the small town where I grew up, well before I was born, our town was known for two main crops, believe it or not: tomatoes and grapes. Do you know what they grow now? Fucking corn.

File: EmploymentUSbranchFredgr.png (51KB, 977x631px) Image search: [Google]

51KB, 977x631px

>>134269767
>since farms barely employ anyone today.
Yep, yet Agricultural expenses is the 5th highest budget expense, more than double the expenses of Education, which is a money hemorrhage in itself. The amount of money wasted on nothing is truly a sight.

>>134269767
I'm saying the exact opposite! Im saying that subsidies are just a ticking time bomb that stifle.the free market! Now that they are in place, all we can do is sit back and wait for the farming market to go up in flames. Even if we remove the subsidises the farmers will destroy themselves with over production. There is no good solution.

>>134269911
a farmer recently grew edamame here in iowa and made 6x more per acre than he did with corn. the midwest is great for all kinds of crops, it's a crying shame they don't diversify more. instead they grow corn, it gets made into high fructose syrup, pumped into everything, and consumed in mass quantities making us all fat.

>>134270249

I quoted the wrong person. My bad.

>>134259421
Farmers are dole niggers who's "profits" are composed almost entirely of government handouts. Fuck them a fuck you. Get a real job faggot, this isn't 1700 anymore.

>>134270101
Guess why they grow corn? Fucking subsidies. And guess what happens when we take them off the subsidies? A full blown market crash. There is nothing we can do, because FDR fucked us.

>>134270488
Then so be it. But I think you're full of shit anyway.

>>134269767
They might provide little support to the economy, but national security takes priority.

>>134270342
Isn't edamame soy? I'm pretty sure soy is a part of the subsidies. Soy is being pumped into everything like corn was not long ago.
It also has quite a large market share.
>>134270488
>A full blown market crash.
Probably not. The agricultural market share is not nearly as big of a percentage of the total economy as it was back when the subsidies initially went into place.

>>134270101
>>134270342

If there are so many options for other crops to grow, why do the farmers only grow corn?

File: 1474908703712.png (258KB, 484x424px) Image search: [Google]

258KB, 484x424px

>>134259421
200d chess master. this corn deal is what made mexico the unlivable shithole(bankrupting farmers,there was a failed revolution over it) it is today. pushing the hordes out. this will stop more people than the wall

>>134270659

What's stopping governments from buying foreign grain and store enough for a year?

Wait, before you ask "Well, then we're fucked if we get embargoed", you can literally plant and harvest before you run out of your strategic reserve.

File: PicardDoubleFacepalm-1.jpg (19KB, 600x478px) Image search: [Google]

19KB, 600x478px

>>134270831
FDR won't be our country's downfall - morons will be.

>>134259421
Good. Maybe Argentina can have about 40 million Mexicans shitting up their country.

don't elect AMLO anon, listen to reason
>fuck dlumpf and fuck white people
is not a valid reason to elect someone, and you'll end up with
>mexico is fucked
instead

>>134270595
>Your right, but your still full of shit
Ok sure.

>>134270742
Guess how the great depression started? First it hit the farmers as early as 1922, but nobody saw the writing on the wall.

And the spics send to Mexico 25 billion of our $ a year. F Mexico

File: 1499480761933.jpg (38KB, 480x680px) Image search: [Google]

38KB, 480x680px

>>134266723

Grow something else.

The problem is so many people in this country are afraid to take risks, they seek to take short cuts, take an easy method.

When you play mediocre games, you win mediocre prizes.

When you sow life as a casual, you reap what is casual.

>>134270970
>there was a failed revolution over it
source?

>>134271233
>Guess how the great depression started? First it hit the farmers as early as 1922, but nobody saw the writing on the wall.
Yeah, when farming and agriculture was a large percentage of the total economy. Many times more than the measly 3-5% it is today. The effect from farmers leaving the market will not be as drastic to the economy.

>>134267536
>outsourcing our food supply to another country is incredibly stupid.

But goyim, how else do we get more africans unless we keep them alive long enough to fuck out another dozen niglets?

>>134271462
Actually, your probably right on that one, but it would still hurt the economy, as well as flip a lot of states blue. And flipping a lot of states blue is just as good as a full blown crash, because the two party system would collapse.

>>134271409
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Revolutionary_Party

>>134271711
I can't imagine farmers who benefit from such subsidies ever voting R to begin with, so I don't see what districts there are to lose, besides for maybe the virtue signalling that would come of it.
I imagine it would be similar to the pipeline fiasco. A bunch of bitching and moaning, but when the right people got into place it was solved quite quickly.

>>134271847
a panamanian party?

File: hStukz.gif (231KB, 255x184px) Image search: [Google]

231KB, 255x184px

>>134271971
sorry. cant find much about it. i remember a professor with ski mask on hiding in the country side with out of work corn farmers. choppers sent in from U.S.. its a hazy memory

>>134259421

>lose billions exporting resource to 3rd world nation
>will sell to someone else instead

NAFTA is nigger-tier Clinton shit that fucked us up more than it helped. Kill that shit now.

>>134271943
They do vote R though. However, if the Republicans stopped promising the farmers gibs, the Democrats would swoop in and be happy to help.

>>134261802
To be blunt, you don't want your food security to rely on importing from other countries.

Our subsidies for specific TYPES of crops is pretty fucking retarded, and some of the subsidies are abused by faggots that don't even farm. The subsidies themselves are not a bad thing, in some places farming is literally the only job there is. Do you really want the heartland to be forced into cities and brainwashed by cultural marxism?

>>134271943
Iowans love their corn gibs and often vote democrat. Farmers on the dole, I'm not even joking.

>>134272451
Read the rest of my comments. As you can tell I fucking love to talk about farming in America.

>>134259421
>what is a trade deficit
We lose more than we gain, total. For the sake of corn farmers, we're renegotiating instead of just leaving.

>>134259421
Farmer here.
You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Duty free? Duty is a tax their government charges like if you buy some imported item at an airport. Doesn't matter where they buy their corn because whoever sells it to mexico isn't paying any duty tax on it.
gfys

>>134272584
All talk, indeed. Please do read his comments. You'll be surprised to learn he starts out "subsidies are bad!" and ends up "subsidizing corn is the only way!".

>Outsource farming
>No more rural retard farmers
>No more illegals working on farms
>No more government subsidies

Sounds like a win for America

>>134265805
Pretty sure the reason soybeans are so high, is it's one of the crops that can grow on fairly marginal land. It's price also rose because all the faggot yuppies thinking it's healthy to eat.(Spoiler, soy is the absolute worst thing you can eat as a male, might as well go get your dick chopped off)

The stuff on that list is not too surprising. Compare acres farmed versus price, and you'll figure out pretty quick why they farm what they farm.

4 million acres of fruits and nuts is 2/3 the value of 73 million acres of soybeans.

Corn is super high on the list because it is HEAVILY subsidized, mostly to make ethanol for fuel. Which is the biggest scam to ever get through congress. It was pushed as an environmentally friendly way to combat climate change, and ends up creating more pollution than it could EVER save.

>>134259421
>We will lose billions from this! You faggots better fix this!

We aren't gonna lose shit, boy. They'll still buy our corn. Just scare tactics,

We did just fine before nafta. Better. I was there.

>>134264047
Sucking your dog off is what is making you leafs gay, now fuck off.

>>134272936
Corn and soybean are both heavily subsidized - that was my point.

>>134272811
>>Outsource farming
You're the retard.
>Thinks being at the mercy of a foreign government for our food is a good idea.

>>134267021
Are you literally retarded?

Why would small family farms come back if a mega farm with economies of scale is unable to compete?

If there were a ton of small farmers, you're not going to get cheaper food, there will be more middlemen, which means higher prices, and not for the farmer.

This doesn't even touch on things like food security for the nation as a whole. You sound like a city cuck to be totally honest. You don't just "go get a job" in the middle of bum fuck nowhere, you either move to the city, and get assimilated into cultural marxism, or you farm, or you get lucky and live near some industrial shit that provides jobs.

>>134272791
It is the only way dumbass, but it keeps us heading towards a cliff. My argument was consistent.

>>134268593
What makes you think they would be able to grow corn as a competitive level as us? That they could even grow enough to replace what they currently buy from us?

>>134273329
You have no actual life experience with any of this. You have exposed yourself.

Monsanto is the biggest supplier. Monsanto and NAFTA fucked over the American and Mexican farmers.

>>134273002
>Sucking your dog off is what is making you leafs gay

But he's on top when he does it so it's not gay. Also, that only happened once.

>>134271002
It's hard to restart a dead industry.
If your farms have been dead for a decade and you lose all the skilled workers, equipment, infrastructure, etc. to support it, it will be difficult to rebuild.
Not counting the issues with storing food for a long time, you might not starve but the people won't be happy with eating conserved food for a long time.

>>134273407
It would take a few years to just get to the levels of production that we need but it can be done, we are shutting down sugar mills and it has to be replaced with something really quick, the gov is doing everything possible to fuck the farmers over.

>>134273280
Higher food prices are the best thing that can happen to a farmer. Just look at the 1890's and the shit that went down then.

>>134272811

Sounds great. We'll let the beaners control our entire food supply so there'll be no more rednecks and you can sip your latte in peace.

>>134270970
Yup, if you look into NAFTA it fucked the Mexican farmer thus fucking the American worker. Monsanto only grew thanks to this thus giving us gmo cancer food.

>>134271409
Every economist says this pertaining to this issue.

>>134268146
u a midwest fag too?

File: 10lkUdy.gif (815KB, 500x281px) Image search: [Google]

815KB, 500x281px

>>134273696
This guy is a shill and is replying from multiple IPs.

>>134273894
PA, actually. Hence the tomatoes and grapes.

If trump buys all the corn and starts Trump biofuels, will libs abandon green technologies?

>>134273442
Do I need to spell it out for you? Subsidies are basically a way for the government to control the farming industry. I would love to get rid of them, but that would result in a market crash. I have no solution.

>>134274217
Don't try and cover it up now, monsantofag.
>>134273914

>>134269911
>Mega farms would go broke
That's not a bad thing anon. US style farming is absolute cancer.

>>134265805
>Also, fuck (((soybeans))).

I guess you could if yer dick's small enough. But why?

>>134273914
My power went out and I was on mobile data for a sec. I'm not trying to fool anyone here.

>>134259421
if buying american corn wasn't in their best interest they would/should have stopped buying it before now.

>>134265805
>Why does the US grow so much fucking corn

So we got somethin' to feed our steaks.

>>134263776
We'll create a Mexican Osama Bin Liden and invade sooner or later.

>>134272936
Soybeans fix nitrogen. That means if you rotate corn with soybeans, you can keep the soil fertile without having to add fertilizer.

>>134273764
Sounds good to me tbqhwyf

File: lel.gif (493KB, 500x211px) Image search: [Google]

493KB, 500x211px

>>134274349

File: 1499383809230.jpg (31KB, 494x550px) Image search: [Google]

31KB, 494x550px

>TFW I grow corn to turn into silage to feed cows, so it doesn't matter

>>134272811
Enjoy your AIDS-ridden Indian poo corn.

>>134274571
These are all me. Don't try to be clever.

>>134274349
>>134274217
>>134273696
>>134273329
>>134267021

>>134274549
>Sounds good to me tbqhwyf

Cool. I'll tell pedro yer okay and not to hoard too much of yer food. Yer okay with paying a lot more for your pizza pockets, right?

>>134274772
I am but a simple farmer, anon. I am not nearly as intelligent as you and your infallible (((arguments))).

>>134274821
Of course because I have a high paying 21st-century job

>>134274745
>Indian poo corn.

Mexicans have been caught literally shitting on our lettuce.

>>134267722
Holy shit that's a big snake

>>134274906
And he calls me a Jew. Ok, no more fun to be had in this thread. Also, growing up in a farm town doesn't make you a farmer. I would bet good money your not a real farmer.

>>134275041

That's a leach.

>>134274931
Dumb. The economy would tank if food prices went up.

>>134266508
Outsource our food production? Are you fucking stupid or just trolling?

Good, fuck corn. Fuck gov't subsidies that pay for growing corn.

And fuck that ethanol from corn they put in my gas tank.

>>134259421
Or we could you know....establish grain reserves.

>>134259421

I love how they "care" about the brown people except when you try to do something productive like let them have their farm industry back (reminder that NAFTA literally caused the migration crisis from Mexico because all the farmers lost their jobs due to an inability to compete with American corn)

>>134271002
21st century america eating stored food for a year

>>134259421
Good, we needed to kill the corn subsidies years ago.

>>134267536
This. Famine sucks, we have subsidies so that we will have plenty of food. Everything goes to shit when people are hungry.

>>134275755
Not in this country.

>>134276112
>like let them have their farm industry back
sure, they'd just get the knowhow, equipment and money to grow competitive corn again, and every poor person will benefit from eating more expensive mexican corn

>>134259421

> cant grow your own corn
> buy american corn using american money
> you'll never get by without exporting your corn to us!
lol

>>134268484

Ethanol from crop is a net energy loss. It takes more power to create a gallon of ethanol fuel than you get out of it.

Ethanol is better for carbon emissions, but carbon is a (((meme)))

>>134259421
government is subsidizing food for the poor to keep them from revolting?
Next you're going to tell me it encourages consumption of mass entertainment and associates it with patriotism

bread and circuses 2000 years later, nothing has changed

>>134265805
Soybeans are great for replenishing the soil though. You pretty much have to include them in a rotation to not destroy your land long-term and it also sells at an ok price.

>>134276593

Yeah bill clinton's presidency was a hundred years ago it's not like the displaced people from the trade deal are still alive or anything

>>134277195
do you think the people who worked in the corn sector when bill clinton was president are not only still available to do so, but willing (and able, not too old) and up-to-date enough to be competitive, given that they weren't competitive even back then? after years doing something else?

>>134277101
Oh yeah, because soybeans are the only crop that does that and they also just happen to be the only other crop subsidized by our government. What a coincidence.

File: 1498668843309.jpg (26KB, 524x400px) Image search: [Google]

26KB, 524x400px

>>134259421
>Oh no somebody save the heavily subsidized corn industry that is %100 responsible for our obesity epidemic
Fuck off corn fags

>>134277498

Maybe it's subsidized because it's a cheap crop that is perfect for crop rotation as well as having that side benefit of being edible...? If it's grow Soy or buying literally tons of fertilizer, why not grow the soy and sell it afterwards for some ridiculous price?

If the government is either going to subsidize soy or sub fertilizer, why not sub the thing that has an end value?

>>134273894
lots of winerys in the midwest, and all our gardens are like paradise. still, all we grow is corn and beans, corn and beans...

File: 1452139930315.png (68KB, 500x281px) Image search: [Google]

68KB, 500x281px

>>134261962
I sure do wonder...

>>134278058
>https://www.nal.usda.gov/afsic/list-alternative-crops-and-enterprises-small-farm-diversification

It's not a small list, leaf.

>>134278009
I'm sure they force fed you all that mountain jew and doritos, you fucking fat fuck.

>>134278009
>the corn industry forced me to eat

>>134278250
>>134278636
>herr durr meth isn't a real problem because no one forced you to smoke it
t. third world countries whose governments consist of warring drug gangs

>>134259421
Oh no, America's grossly over-subsidised corn market that has caused the greatest obesity epidemic in human history will have to actually fight for business for once in it's existence. What a shame.

>>134278834
>t. third world countries whose governments consist of warring drug gangs
Yup, that's you alright, go be a nigger elsewhere and stop sending money, guns and drugs you fucking lame excuse of a neigbour.

>>134279086
Pretty infuriating to be held responsible for some shit your fucked up government has done in your name, isn't it?

>>134279086
We need to build a great big beautiful firewall to keep the mexishits out

File: 1483024468656.png (436KB, 1000x1050px) Image search: [Google]

436KB, 1000x1050px

>>134279304
>>134279285
You can suck my cock while you're at it, you filthy half niggers.

>>134279541
I was talking about both of our governments, dumbass.

>>134279541
Don't spend your time on earth shitposting anon, go out and do something fun, you never know when you will inevitably be beheaded, raped, and set on fire by you friendly neighborhood druglord :^)

>>134272936
>Pretty sure the reason soybeans are so high, is it's one of the crops that can grow on fairly marginal land.

Pretty sure you're stupid. Soybeans actually require pretty good ground to grow. The Chinese tried to grow their own beans about a decade ago by planting them in shit soil. It didn't turn out for them.

>>134280139
He's a moron like all the other faggots in this thread claiming to understand crop rotation. Most legumes are nitrogen fixing. The only reason anyone argues for soybeans is because of the fucking subsidy.

>>134278064
They grow the veggies in the California desert for a reason. The reason you ask? They don't have to fight the fucking bugs so much in the desert.

Not yet. More corn means more subsidy for domestic production and ethanol/gasohol development, meaning lower gas. Plus, Mexico is doing this despite NAFTA still being active. Would have happened anyway! Never tired of winning!

>>134265252
kek, fire up the ovens

>>134280488
I don't know man, the Chinese love them some soy. And what we don't sell to them we can turn into biodiesel. Which is actually useful if not cost effective. The worst thing about soybeans is that while it puts nitrogen back in the soil it basically rapes it of cover leaving it vulnerable to erosion.

>>134280919
>puts nitrogen back in the soil
You don't know what the fuck you're talking about either, then.

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrogen_fixation

>>134266123
I drive ethanol vehicles for a living. It's awful. They burn hotter than gas and are nowhere near as fuel efficient.

>>134281120
>burn hotter than gas
This is what makes alcohol great for racing fuel and not much else.

>>134281115
Huh? I said it puts nitrogen back in the soil. You provide a link that backs that up. What are you talking about?