Honestly, what is wrong with European socialism? Does socialism

>>134208300
Yes, it does, but because Nordic countries still have an extremely high work ethic that is cultural whereas Africans do not and Hispanics generally have a low work ethic for any work above digging holes

>>134208468
>white people
>working

made me kek, here's your (You)

>>134208468
So socialism is better than capitalism?

Also isn't socialism a transition between capitalism and communism? How can a transitional phase be a sustainable permanent replacement?

>>134208300
Go ask a Dane, you tard.

>>134208711
that's what this board is for and if you don't like my question, you can always leave instead of replying, thus bumping it to the front page of /pol/

gg

i mean we dont have alot of niggers so we do better but sadly we have a rat infestation of immigrants at the moment

>>134208669
>leaf

>>134208300
>MFW life is so shitty for burgers
>MFW their government won't do anything about it because they are worried about "losing job"
>MFW they actually think Burger King restaurants are going to move to Mexico
>MFW I have no face

>>134208300
>Denmark
>Socialism
Off you go, Bernout.

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>Honestly, what is wrong with European socialism?
Socialism
>Does socialism work in ethnically homogeneous countries?
Lol no

>>134208889
Why is socialism better than capitalism, I don't understand. Poor people are just as bad as immigrants.

>>134208946
But those costs come around. It's more expensive for some things and less for others. Consider school is free there while the average student loan debt in the USA is $37,172.

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Denmark's most recent tax rate is 55.8% leaving a worker with a $20 wage with $8.84. This just forces companies to dish out an insane amount of money by disguising a personal income tax as a corporate tax. What's the incentive to start a business if you have to pay your employee such a high government mandated wage only to have over half of that go back to the government. Makes no sense. Bad comparison.

>>134208946
So income is 122% higher.
And prices are only 22% higher.

Wow I guess you win.

>>134209400
That's the top tax rate you dingus, not the tax rate that burger king workers pay.

Are you completely retarded?

>>134208300
Honestly, most systems would work in Europe. But that's mostly because it's ethnically white.

Also in some regards Europe has more capitalism than America. In a lot of markets there is more competition than you would find in America.

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>>134209402
>>134209094
>leaving taxes out of the equation.

Typical libshits.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/roslynlayton/2015/10/23/10-things-bernie-sanders-and-paul-krugman-should-know-about-denmark/amp/

>>134209402
>122%
>wow

Nice hyperbole and condescending tone. I'm sure you win alot of arguments in your head with those.

Remove the niggers and spics that don't care if they're paid 2 cents an hour. The corporations will be forced to pay a living wage to keep their businesses open.

>>134209665
>MFW if you take taxes into consideration from BOTH countries, it's still a massive increase in pay.

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>>134208669
>leaf

America takes care of a lot of EU states. Its really not that hard to figure out why European socialism works.

>>134208300
$11.25 in Oregon and headed up to $15

>>134210027
>MFW cucks believe all states are taxed like Commiefornia

>>134208698
we dont have fucking socialism, we have capitalism with high taxes and in exchange we get free healthcare and so on.

>>134208300
>has to chose between paying rent & food or paying for 4G internet, microtransactions in smartphone games, netflix, $500 sneakers, fidget spinners, hoverboards, bluetooth speakers in every room, shiny rims, PS4/Xbone games, marijuana and marijuana accessories, fancy haircuts, vape equipment or cigarettes, alcoholic beverages, overpriced junkfood, overpriced hipster clothes, etc.

fixed that for you. there are no poor millennials in America.

>>134208300
inb4 "fast food is not real work" jew

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Americans really know absolutly nothing about our countries

>>134208300

Try buying a car in Denmark. You'll be paying nearly double, which is why you see so many people in Denmark riding bicycles.

But just ignore that and focus on the fact that you can make $20/hour flipping burgers at McDonalds! Whooo!

>>134208300
>what is wrong with European socialism?
More than 50% of what you earn goes to the state in Denmark. The percentage of what you may keep goes lower as your income goes higher.

I'm sure that the overwhelming majority of Americans is too selfish to let that happen.

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>>134208669
>leaf

>>134210381
Tell you what, I'll take the job with $20 and 50% taxes, and you can have the one with $9 and 30% taxes, okay?

Seems fair to me.

>>134208300
>Does socialism work in ethnically homogeneous countries?
Anything works in homogenous white countries

>muh communism
slavs aren't white

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>>134208669

>>134210588
Fast food is work, but is not a work where you can build a career from. They are low tier job, just one step above welfare but is not a place to build your whole life.

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>>134208300
Nordic countries does not have socialism. Nordic countries have a mix of the best of capitalism and socialism.

Its basically the closest thing you can come to national socialism as viewed by Hitler in his political speeches. Ofc Hitler ended up mostly a fascist due to the demands of the war, but pre-war his economics were natsoc and on point. He reached full employment with a nation that was into its ears in debt, nothing like the debt we see today... people were literally starving in the streets, and yet he managed to get full employment for almost 7 million unemployed germans.

The only problem with the Scandinavian countries is that they are heavily anti ethno nationalism due to the post-war indoctrination, but quite a few people here are becoming redpilled.

>>134208300
How many times do we have to state that us nordic contries don't have socialism? We just have a large state with high taxes and benefits.

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>>134208300
>cant buy a decent car with your 20$/h
>have to live in an overpopulated cuckcell block
>being proud of having a career in fastfood

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>>134208669

>>134208300
and how are the prices in Denmark?

>>134208300
> Does socialism work in ethnically homogeneous countries

It work in ethnically diverse communities as well. There is no reason why it should not and there is no evidence that it does not work in such communities.

>>134209400
>Progressive tax
Which right now is not how I would want it to be. Also how the tax money is used is wrong. Nordics could have near perfect system if the taxes were used correctly.

>>134208300
>burgerking
>20 an hour

fake news

>>134210972
they have the same spending power you do, but more even distribution of wealth.

>>134210972
Only slightly higher.

>>134208300
> what is wrong with European socialism
It is unjust in that people who don't deserve it, earn way above actual value created, while professionals are saddled with ridiculous taxes which prevent them from accumulating wealth.

I'd be earning 2 times my current salary if I lived in the US, and my living expenses and tax burden would be smaller.

>>134210458

And it's not even free anymore.

>>134210939
So you can buy a decent car on $9? wut

>>134208300
You do realize that Denmark workers get slugged with a high tax rate. So essentially the burger king worker in the US takes home slightly more than the one in Denmark.

Socialism (as demonstrated in Northern Europe) seems to "work" for limited periods of time. It seems to have been especially useful in Germany post-Wiemar. The major caveat here is that these countries are ethnically (and generally religiously) homogenous. Germans have a very strong work ethic and are capable of upholding very high standards. The typical German will conform to the social norm without question.

I think that socialism falls down over an extended period. Reliance upon the state causes a laxity in moral values. Morality has to come from God, or it will be merely relative. Europeans are still running off the last vestiges of Christianity that BUILT Europe: their laws; the proper spheres of the sexes; Christian charity and mercy: All these came from the Church, and as the Church goes, Europe recedes into the swamp of degeneracy.

Without God, the people use sex for pleasure and not procreation, and the population falls below replacement levels. Then the aged population cannot be support by the larger youthful population, and all socialist retirement schemes will not be sustainable.

Importing foreign labor will quickly lead to disaster. The Germans learned their work ethic from Christian monks over hundreds of years. People from non-Christian societies do not know how to work hard for the greater society. They see a great government teat in Germany and in Sweden.

Christian Europe learned the values of Christ and put these values in her laws. The wicked should be punished, but mercy could be shown after the lesson was learned. The socialist state does not have any true set of values, and it tends to be too lenient in punishing crime.

ME people that are not Christian do not have the same familial values, and do not respect women or boys. It is much more common for ME men to rape young boys or females, often using large gangs to accomplish this. People from the ME will have no respect for the laws that do not punish more severely.

>>134210972
It's about the same. I visit burgerland often since I have family there, and atleast in Los Angeles (may god forgive me for even thinking about that god awful place) the prices seem to be about the same, maybe a bit higher.

>people should be satisfied with fast food jobs!
Fuck off. Denmark bottle pay $50 an hour and I wouldn't want a career flipping burgers. It's a terrible stressful job. I did it for over year in college and would kill myself before doing it again.

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there is no minimum wage in denmark.

>>134211069
>It work in ethnically diverse communities as well.
No. Somalis have a 30% employment rate in Norway. Norwegians have a 88% employment rate.

eventually the ethnic Norwegians will tire of the moochers and all support for state redistribution will disappear from the ethnic Norwegians.

Also, the more ethnically diverse, the less people trust their neighbours and care for their countrymen.

Why do burgers think European nations have socialism? :')

I don't think it is homogenous communities so much as it is simply having less "dependent citizens".

Denmark, Norway etc all have smaller populations, lower imigration and thus, less people dependent on government handouts. As a result, there is a relaible tax base to make all their social policies work.

>>134210872
you could make a career out of it if you move into management and work up from that. It's still shit though

>>134210715
Sure, why not? Better yet, you go live in the country where you'll probably die flipping burgers for $20 an hour with high taxation while I move to a better paying job in a country with a lower tax bracket where I don't have to pay $10 for a Big Mac.

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>>134208698
>How can a transitional phase be a sustainable permanent replacement?

Just like capitalism will be sustained until it can no longer be sustained due to globalization and automatization and falling purchasing power caused by these. You do it until you just simply can't

What socialists don't get is that time is not yet ready for socialism and thus it can't work because capitalism is still for the moment more competitive and levels of technology required for sustaining socialist paradise aren't yet there.

It's all about progress. Unfortunately socialists have always only looked at the social side of progress but pretty much ignored the technological side of it. If they'd read Marx they'd know that feudal and slave societies didn't jump into industrial capitalism because people just decided one day that slavery is bad. NO! They developed technologies that made slavery inefficient and unnecessary practice. It's easy to convince the masses when their lives aren't dependent on these injustices.

>>134208669
Ok Travis

>>134208300

I still have no fucking idea how the fuckers manage it while at the same time being able to export products competitively and maintaining the high living standard.

Their management must be fucking elite.

>>134211349
Yes, there are absolutely no jobs in Europe except flipping burgers.

>>134211349
Norwegians are not content flipping burgers.

Only young people with no other job experience and immigrants work there.

>>134208300
Well Denmark actually has a tax rate of around 57% so that 20 is actually more around 9.75 an hour.

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>>134210715
m8, I live in alabama and people who make $9 an hour here pay wayy less in taxes. Probably around 20%. So consider this, $20 an hour with a 50% tax rate and 22% price inflation.OR at least in alabama's case you can make $9 an hour, be taxed roughly 20% and have a -13% price inflation (Because A dollar in alabama has a purchasing power roughly 13% higher than US average.) GET FUCK FAGGOT

>>134211333
High taxes

>>134208300

>small white country with intelligent, non-violent citizens

>large negroid country with retarded violent citizens

HMMMMMMMM

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Yeah, even our Burger King workers are millionaires living in mansions. Of course they are.

>>134211187

Yes. You can.

Used cars in America are very affordable even to a burger flipper.

>>134211458
Actually, >>134211349 kinda has a point. Sure, there's other jobs as well but EVERYONE is clammering to get them since sand niggers are stealing all the other jobs

>>134208698
The welfare state is only 50 years old. It's hardly enough time to call it either sustainable or permanent

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Have you seen a kfc or McDonald's run by blacks? Some of the most disgusting places I have been too. They will get 15$ an hour when they can actually put in the effort

>>134211516
>57%
Is the MAXIMUM.
>>134211570
High taxes == Socialism?

>>134209959
>>I'm sure you win alot of arguments in your head with those.

Made me laugh irl, have a (you)

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>>134208300

>>134208300
>denmark worker
>over 80% of his wage 20 an hour go away in taxes
>has to pay taxes of 300% when buying a car

>>134211502
How do they live? Can they afford luxuries?

>>134211773
Fuckers in kitchen still manage to fuck up your orders

>>134208468
>>134208698
you fucking nut wit dindus, Nordic countries are same type of nanny states than UK, not socialist paradises

>>134208468

Actually both the salary levels and work ethics are similar to american ones.

The only plausible explanation comes to two possible reasons:

1) Their companies are meritocratic, reward above average performances and have less income disparities

2) The employers invest in equipment/advanced methods

Its the same old story: the employer eats 70% and expects a single worker to open a ditch with a shovel vs the employer keeps 30% hires more workers and offers them excavators.

It must be it. The entire world has a lot to learn with nordfags management methods.

>>134211672
This.

Ethnic scandis want to work in professions without niggers.

Most teachers i work with quit teaching or move to parts of town with only whites because they dont want to deal with black and sandnigger kids.

>>134208300
so where's the cost of NATO in that?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQMShmrfJWQ

>>134208698
>So socialism is better than capitalism?
Only if there's a homogeneous culture with a strong work ethic and traditional values, so yes National Socialism is better than Capitalism. Capitalism's far more multipurpose though and allows outsiders/non-traditional people to succeed if they can adapt.

>>134211865

Don't worry, the burger machines will be coming soon. I wouldn't be surprised in 10 years that all fast food is flash frozen premade burgers from china that gets heated up by the burger machine.

>>134211557
Good, now just remove from your budget the costs of education, healthcare, childcare, retirement, etc.

Oh yeah, and if we are taking tax brackets into consideration, then you'd only be at 30% taxes in Denmark (including 5% federal and average 25% local), and 20% in Alabama (including 15% federal and 5% local).

So try again sweetie.

>>134211227
Of course, they are taxed >50% in Denmark and not taxed at all in America.

Also the tax doesn't go to anything so they are not paid to go to college in Denmark and health care is not free but actually more expensive than in America.

>>134211399
>What socialists don't get is that time is not yet ready for socialism
Is it actually possible to predict that the next wave of automation will actually make humans uncompetitive or just another industrial revolution that humans will adapt to?

>>134210598
Nearly triple

>>134211812
Norway has the highest spending power in the world, well, its basically the same as yours. (America has really good spending power for its citizens at the moment actually)

For a nation with a better health system and a better social systems (free school, uni, healthcare etc) thats not a bad place to be.

We dont have a good military though, but thats covered mostly by the fact that we are your loyal little nato friend. Your military is our military kinda, and we dont ahve to spend too much money for that power.

Even our poor are better off, especially if they spend wisely, which most of them dont.

>>134208300
>fast food worker
>expecting a fucking pension plan
Suicide is an option

>>134211516
Always with the muh +50% tax. Do you not know what progressive taxation means?

>>134208300
Yes. In all white countries socialism actually works.

In all fairness if your country is all white anything works.

>>134211262
>Flipping burgers
>Stressful

Holy shit, wait until you get out of your mom's basement and into the real world.

>>134212318

When it comes to purchasing power, salaries, etc, their averages are a fraud. The statistical variance is huge.

>>134208903
It sucks for low skill workers not skilled.

>>134212211
>Of course, they are taxed >50% in Denmark and not taxed at all in America.

You didn't even bother checking google to see if that was true before you posted it, did you?

>>134212408
This.

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>>134208669

>>134212525
>Fuck you got mine meme

You do realize if everyone in the country went and got a PHD in Engineering, then you'd just have millions of engineers who were flipping burgers right?

>>134208300
>Gets paid $20
>More than half is taken from it after taxes that pay for your anti-depressants
Nice try shitskin

>>134212199
>budget the costs of education
Higher education? That's optional. What if he doesn't want to study?

>healthcare
Most employers provide healthcare in the US

>childcare
Again, it's optional

>retirement
Apart from the social security, almost all employers offer retirement plans.

Not to mention that, again, only NIGGERS stay and retire from working on a fucking fast food chain restaurant.

>>134212513
I was talking about median citizen spending power. American median spending power is really good due to low prices and clever economic manipulation, but it wont last. Those cheap goods come from China, which means the wealth is leaving the country.

>>134212537
What?

Niggers

hey FICKFACE denmark has 6 million population, USA has 300+ million... that shit DOES NOT WORK in large nations you fucking retard. ooga booga BIX NOOD, you motherfucking mental midget socialist faggots will NEVER understand that the order of magnitude MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE!!! fuck you!

>>134208300
Burger King Jobs are not supposed to pay for a living. They require absolute no education or anything.

penis

>>134208300


>what is wrong with European socialism?

The idea that it can work with any population


>Does socialism work in ethnically homogeneous countries?

Yes

>>134208698
Socialism is older than Marxism, retard.

Also, the Nordic countries aren't socialist by any definition. They're standard capitalism plus welfare. The only policy difference between them and the USA is that America actually invests in new medicine as well as military, unlike the dependent baby states of Europe who think that social democracy is magic because they don't have to spend anything on protection or research. It also doesn't hurt that they're all genetically and culturally homogeneous whereas everyone in America is trying to kill each other because they speak different languages and hold oppositional moral values.

>>134212743
>Most employers provide healthcare in the US
Are you a child? Have you ever had a job? Do you think employers just magically cover the bills of all of their employees? You still pay at a minimum HALF the insurance premium costs, plus copay and deductible. Your employer doesn't cover that.

>Apart from the social security, almost all employers offer retirement plans.
Social security is taxed, and you didn't include it in your math, and your employer also only matches your own contribution. They don't give you free money for quitting.

You do realize you need to be 18 to post here right?

>>134212866
Yea, those are only for making extra cash while you collect student/housing benefits.

>>134212318
It's good that Eurocucks at least have the balls to admit that they leech from the USA in order to have all those nice things. Hopefully we'll btfo of the NATO soon.

Also, my question came since if they can't really afford much luxuries, then what it's the difference from the low tier workers here then, other than you dumbasses pay more for a hamburger?

>>134212863
America had similar social benefits to Scandinavia before you opened the floodgates to third world immigrants.

Basically, once you go black you go broke. Work ethic and support for decent welfare systems and social benefits is killed.

People dont want to pay for other races' children/people.

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>>134208300
>Bernout

>>134208300
>Does socialism work in ethnically homogeneous countries?
only if they're white, and only if the politicians aren't corrupt
and nowdays the 2nd part is becoming untrue.

>>134211638
>Used cars in America are very affordable

Until you pay for insurance, gas, maintenance, registration, inspections ...

Allah help you if you don't pay cash and end up financing the rolling jew

>>134211187
If you live in NYC, no. If you live in Kentucky and your rent is only 300$ a month, then yes.

>>134212815
U.S. federal tax rate for someone working $9 full time would be 15%, plus Social Security taxes, plus 5-20% state taxes.

Denmark for the same income bracket would be 6% federal taxes, 20-28% local taxes, and a 1% healthcare tax

>>134212743

>Retirement plans

Yeah, they'll give you the option of taking money out of your paycheck to dump into the market.

Nobody offers pensions any more.

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>>134213218
>car inspections

>>134208300
Name one socialistic country that actually makes some profit. They are all debt drowning junkies.

>>134213241
Yes so the Dane is earning a lot more get free health care and will get paid by the state if he decides to study.

>>134208300
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denmark
>Denmark (/ˈdɛnmɑːrk/ (About this sound listen); Danish: Danmark [ˈdænmɑɡ] (About this sound listen)), officially the Kingdom of Denmark
>Unitary parliamentary constitutional monarchy

Yes, you are being retarded. Denmark is a monarchy, it's literally in their name.

>>134213063
My employer covers 80% of my health plan monthly cost. I pay $30 monthly for it ($15) from every paycheck. Also, my highest deductible is when I end up hospitalized and its still only $100. For routine checks with my PCP is $10. Big fucking deal you poorfag scum. What are you a nigger that works on a BK and is buttblasted because he can't buy the lastest Nikes with his paycheck?

>>134213413
China.

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>>134213075
We dont pay more for a Hamburger. We have higher costs, but also higher salaries. We have the same spending power you do essentially. but more even distribution of wealth.

Because of this distribution we have the most millionaries in teh world (but we dont have many billionaires) which is a good thing for investment and the economy. Also, our poor has the best spending power of any nation, which is also great for the economy because poor people spend the money they have domestically. You wont see many poor or middle class people spend their money investing overseas for instance, the money is spent in-house which boosts our economy.

>>134208300
>ethnically homogeneous countries
I see what you did there. The answer is a tentative "yes", but there are many stipulations.

>>134208468
>extremely high work ethic that is cultural

Here's the key. You have to be cooperative and humble to progress this.

>>134213360
My employer matches each dollar I put on the retirement account. I don't expect businesses to keep supporting me long after I stopped working from them, because I'm not a entitled nigger.

>>134208300
Wages aren't just decided by muh government.
Just because one country has a higher minimum wage than another doesn't mean government made wages higher.
It's very rare for minimum wage to be much higher than what the employer would be paying the employee anyway. Even if you removed the minimum wage in Denmark they would still pay at least 18 dollars an hour. Wages are mostly decided by a multitude of factors like cost of production, supply and demand, living costs, prices, immigration etc.
At the end of the day, all wages will depend on two factors - how much can the employer pay you and still make money versus how little can he pay you and still have you show up for work. The government creating laws and legislation on minimum wage can't change those factors.

>>134208300
for socialism to work you need people willing to work. sweden was (once) mainly whites working their asses off to get this system to run. they wanted to be employed. now with hordes of blacks and arabs unwilling to work and actively working to collapse this system, they will soon have quite the wake-up call.
but what do I know im fairly high

Whopper meal price

Sweden: 7.96
USA: 5.99

Not as bad as I thought it would be

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>>134208300
40% income tax is already enough.. + all the extra taxes we have on cars, gas etc. and if you drive around in this country the government is doing an old fashioned Highway robbery with all the toll booths

We are taxed to death!!!

>>134208300
>Does socialism work in ethnically homogeneous countries?

First problem. They are ethnically homogeneous. Second they are relatively small. So ultimately everyone is ok with paying in and generally its not abused too much.

Also notice how none of this shit like the entire fast food system was developed in Denmark.

>>134213643
Has anyone heard about China's ghost towns? They build huge commie blocks and they don't even finish the apartments because it would lower the price. Empty towns used only for buying and selling.
>mfw that bubble bursts

>>134208698

Its just Capitalism with higher taxes and a bugger minimum net.

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>>134213882
This is why they get paid more. The government is the reason the US working class gets treated like garbage.

>>134213647
Then where is the incentive or the reward for people to excel or take more challenges or be more creative in their work? Which reminds me, what has Denmark contributed to humanity recently? What new innovations you have given the world? Probably none since you literally have built a society of gibs me dat. Perfect for niggers. Since you leech from us through NATO maybe you should take spics and niggers from us and insert them in your culture.

Danes pay 50 percent of their income in taxes. Home ownership and car ownership rates are low.

>>134208300
It's not socialism. FFS get it right you fucking retards

>>134213882
Norway: 10,25

why do people confuse welfare state with socialism?

Friendly reminder that Norway is automatically disqualified from the discussion.
They have huge oil money.
They are known as nordic Saudi Arabia.
Their work ethics are considered shit and they import skilled workers from the rest of Scandinavia

Tbh most fast food workers in us need to pick rent more often. Fat mother fuckers

>>134208698

>Also isn't socialism a transition between capitalism and communism? How can a transitional phase be a sustainable permanent replacement?

Socialism in the marxist sense, yeah, but 'European' or 'Nordic' socialism is not marxist socialism. It's basically socialized corporatism. This means it's basically a capitalist society where you tax the individual high amounts, but tax corporations low amounts.

The government has lots of power over the market, but it's not a planned economy like marxist socialism is, in essence it's still a 'capitalist' economy. Though this doesn't mean it's a free market. You'd call this a regulated ('guided') market. The government guides the market through policy change and regulations/subsidization. An example would be the subsidization of electric vehicles by relieving the burden of having to pay significant automobile tax. Other ways these regulations interfere with the free market are by setting up strict workers rights, disallowing private monopolies and pricefixing and sometimes creating public companies when it comes to natural resource management ( Norway )

>>134208300
>Honestly, what is wrong with European socialism? Does socialism work in ethnically homogeneous countries?


When you don't have to pay for your ( and the rest of the world's) defense you can have stupid gay socialist policies

Once we pull out of NATO all the EUroscum socialist nations crumble

ameribabbies get so triggered by the nordic countries and I love it :^)

goodest goyims, the country: they give it up for free

>>134213075
They also get better drug prices because USA takes the costs of research and development from pharmaceutical companies, so yeah, the US has been getting cucked by Europe for a while now. In return for what?

>>134213643
Muh GDP is more the answer when we talk about Canada, USA or EU.

http://www.in2013dollars.com/1947-CAD-in-2017?amount=100
>The Canadian dollar experienced an average inflation rate of 3.58% per year between 1947 and 2017. CA$100 in the year 1947 is worth CA$1,174.77 in 2017.
http://www.in2013dollars.com/1947-dollars-in-2017?amount=100
>The U.S. dollar experienced an average inflation rate of 3.48% per year between 1947 and 2017. $100 in the year 1947 is worth $1,096.52 in 2017.

Look who's inflating GDP, but are you building anything or just selling?

>>134214195
Cross reference this with how much CEOs and people at the top make

>>134208669
Gee i wonder why we have a bad name. So many trudeau voting fags in our country

>>134214566
Finns and Sami > scandis.

>>134213547
>China is socialist

Don't make me laugh, please.

Socialism doesn't work, not even Germans could make it work.
What the OP is thinking about is Social Democracy (which is capitalism) but that's still inferior to right wing capitalism.

>>134214587
leave CIDF and never comeback

>>134214780
China is natsoc.

>>134214223
They create plenty of innovations per capita, just there are actually a very tiny number of actually Scandinavians. Like all of scandinavia has barely more population than New York state

>>134208300

Denmark is expensive as fuck to live in.

Denmark, at least we aren't Sweden.

>>134214878
NatSoc =/= Socialist

>>134211306
>No. Somalis have a 30% employment rate in Norway.

Most of these have been here less than 2 years Compared to ethnic norwegians who have been in norway less than 2 years they are far ahead of us. They do not get free language training and they on average must work a lot harder than ethnic norwegians to get a job even if they speak fluent norwegian and even if they get a degree here in norway.

>>134214087
But unlike western world China has Socialism, so they can't burst if they sell their loans to own citizen. You only got a meltdown when you are part of international financial system, you can't meltdown on your own. When you nationalize financial sector you aren't affected by international financial system. China had problems because they tried to join stock exchange and USA already seen its chance to lower their value, but they had to if they want to conquer USA.

>>134208300
population differences, you stupid inbred piece of redneck dognigger shit

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>>134208300
your little infographic neglects to mention that all of these countries are running off of the excess wealth generated by their more free market days, tax their populations to the point where goods cost twice as much as they do in America (so that 20 dollars has the purchasing power of 10), all of their programs are failing, and in some cases the entire society is failing as exemplified by them shipping in ungodly amounts of immigrants in the hopes of converting them into the next generation of tax livestock.

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>>134215114
I know.

State capitalism.

>>134209400
Low corporate taxes.

>>134212199
>Be American
>Work at Burger King to pay your way through college with sensible student loans
>Graduate
>Get a high paying salaried job
>Pay less than 30% of your income in taxes
>Pay off your loans in less than five years on average

>Be Dane
>Work at Burger King while getting free schooling because lol muh gibs
>Graduate
>Get a high paying salaried job
>Pay over 50% of your income in taxes

Who do you think ends up making more money by the time they hit retirement.

I'll wait.

>>134214780
Of course they are, they have full control over where certain races of people live, they don't have freedom of movement and they don't accept foreigners unless they are married Chinese. Hong Kong isn't China, it's only controlled by China, it never really was UK either.

>>134208300
>Denmark
>8% gross tax
>5.3% income tax
>Additional 22.8% municipal tax
>Throw on the local income tax, 22-27%
>Lets not forget the minimum health tax, 3% though thats being phased out


20/hr at 60% tax rate vs 9/hr and you get all but $30 back in a tax return.

>>134208300
>That picture
Wow, its almost as if one wage is the result of a cohesive semi-corporatist labour market of white people and the other is a government-mandated minimum for niggers.

>>134211557
Are you retarded?
Here's how the tax system works, at least in Norway.

We have something called minimum deduction. This is 44% of your income, with a minimum deduction of 5k and a maximum deduction of 12k. You don't pay any income taxes on this income. However, you do pay 8% pension tax of everything you earn above 5k.

For everything you earn above 12k, you pay 25% in income taxes. You add 9% to what you earn above 65k, and 12% to what you earn above 105k.

There are also other deductions, including 24% of the rent you pay on your mortgage.

If you earn about 55k, your overall tax rate will be about 26%.

>>134208300
Probably not.
Marx usually referred to the Bretons, Basques, South Slavs and Czechs as racial trash, saying that they would never achieve or pursue historical evolution, making them counter-revolutionary.

The rest of Europe is a shitfest mix of races which probably would result in catastrophe if socialism was instated. Lazy polish fucks.

>>134214607
USA: 20 million
Sweden: 1 million

amazingly low. Still this doesn't take that much of a big companies assets. I think it has little influence on employee pay. At least nothing compared to 20% more taxes

>>134208300

>works in food place
>has to decide whether you keep your home or food

You are doing country wrong

>>134208300
Burger king does have paid vacation for experienced employees

>>134208300
Sales tax: 25%
income tax: (low) 55% (High) 65%
SS: 8%
1 krone = 15 US pennies
dafuq. How do people in Denmark afford anything?

>>134208300
I remember a Aussie acquaintance of mine on roll20, he would always talk about how awesome it was that Aus has such a higher minimum wage than the US.

I never wanted to point out that he was nearly 30 and still making minimum wage, while I was 22 and hadn't made minimum wage since I was 16. A lot of non-Americans don't seem to understand that. In the US, minimum wage is for children and other people with absolutely no marketable skills or ambition. If you live in the US and you are not in some way severely physically or mentally disabled, you are making more than minimum wage.

>>134208300
>Burger King
>$20

The taxes in Denmark are killing your income. In Murrica some people think 5 % taxes is much... 20 % +++ taxes are the norm in Denmark and you have to pay much more for other thinks than in the USA.

Also the rent and food prices and other prices are much higher.

Stop compareing nominal loan. Only the real loan counts. Also the 5 weeks paid vacation and other things are in the law, BUT in Denmark you can even get less than in the USA without any benefits if the employer just hires you as "slave" worker. It isn't called slave worker, but you are not full time employed and therefore get not benefits.

>>134215260
ah yes, the retarded ancap arguments that always boil down to GAPITALIST GUD GOBMINT BAD

pls tell me more about my country, you seem oh so wise

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Multiculturalism benefits the bourgeoisie the most. Cheap labour and distraction to prevent revolution. Killing 2 goys with one stone

>>134215454
>muh income tax
Better income tax than 20 trillion debt slave to foreigners. You should look the big picture, what are other taxes, how much do things cost, but yes they have a high tax. USA has a high debt because it removed high tax when Reagan was in office.

>>134215280
You have no clue what you're talking about, Hitler himself said Soc in NatSoc doesn't represent socialism in the way it's spoken of right now

>>134215390

>they have full control over where certain races of people live, they don't have freedom of movement and they don't accept foreigners unless they are married Chinese.

Sounds more like quasi-ethnonationalism than socialism. None of the things you brought up have anything to do with economic policy

Big companies are more highly regulated in Europe. Europeans are mostly smart enough not to live in a trailer park and vote for policies that make corporations and the rich richer while making themselves poorer. They aren't stupid enough to think they are just a temporarily struggling person who will be a millionaire some day.

I work a fairly typical job but have enough to lease a new car, mortgage a 150k property, have a pension that will give me enough to retire in my 50s or 60s get 4 1/2 weeks paid holiday a year. In Murica that is a dream for most people but it's entirely common here.

I pay less tax than Americans and get free health care and can get free college as well. Guess things will change once more niggers and other ape people flood in and drain all the gibs but for now it's pretty good.

>>134208300
>European socialism
We call it social market economy. It's still technically capitalism and free market (although not as free as in some other countries). The difference is we take care of the unemployed because we don't think it's their fault that they don't have a job.
You can't have a 100% employment rate.

On the contrary, we have much higher taxes and government spending for SJW shit... It's also much harder to start a business here, for all I know..

>>134215590
Fuck, If I were working in McDonalds or some massive chain of stores I'd 100 percent rob a lunch now and again, It's not as if they're losing anything.

In fact, some food and retail stores have a quota of items that can go missing before they start losing cash.

If you work a full time minimum wage job for more than a year than you're doing somethig wrong. Part time minimum wage employees usually are students and 2nd earners. I work part time in retail as a student and started at minimum wage 2 years ago. Now I earn 12€ an hour instead of 8,5€. If I were to go work full time i could probably make shift manager quickly earning 15€. Storemanager makes 20€ an hour and is easily makeable for a reliable guy. If you are smart you start at a discounter and try to move up to a mid tier or luxury brand and you'll earn another 20% to 30%.

These poor people usually have to choose between paying rent or food because they waste 40% of their income on useless shit.

Not being able to get a job means that you're entitled, retarded or have some other gamebreaking issue.

$20 an hour in Denmark is basically buys what min wage does in the states.

>>134215759
It's not free market, it's regulated market. That's the term for it, but that's just semantics, right about the other stuff

>>134215716
Ethno nationalism is Socialism, interracial was banned like it is in China. You had country passport and a passport to travel to inside countries and a passport to travel to gypsy town, basically it was more otherwise, gypsy couldn't travel, you could to their town.

>>134215771

>theft

At the very minimum, lunch is free. Some of the better places probably give more.

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>>134215716
In China. State owns partial stake in all major businesses. Controls money flowing out of the country.

democratic sosialism is not sosialism

This only works because we literally don't spend shit on military though.

Burgers got that covered for us.

>>134215759
>On the contrary, we have much higher taxes and government spending for SJW shit
When were you last outside?

The good old USA is SJW central

>>134215706
Lets throw in a couple million refugees who do nothing but soak up benefits for a few decades and see how that debt does.

>>134208669
>A

>>134215704
Reminder that companies go across seas to get cheap labour as well, It hurts the local economy and lays off workers at home.

>>134211175
nordic healthcare is pretty shit atm
everyone has cut their budget because of gibsmedatsniggers

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>>134208300
They also have a fraction of the total staff, thus customer service is worse.

>>134216066
But our SJWs are rarely paid for by taxes.

>>134216068
And where is the problem? Higher debt you have, more you are owned by foreigners and special interest elites and more cheap labor they have to exploit. Don't worry, their money is safe. Btw debt is never repaid, never will be, that's not the same as your debt which should be repaid, national debt isn't there to be repaid.

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>>134216143
These people should be the only gibemedats in Nordic nations.

>>134215900
Correct

>>134215948
It's hardly theft if they're the ones who are making extra off of your work.

Obviously one shouldn't take more than he needs from the company, lunch being a need, especially if you dont want Jamal eyeing you up later that evening in your cell.

Yet.

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>>134213399
doesn't trudeau get very angry and make you pay twice as much to your niggers if you don't do your car inspection and get caught

>>134213223
rent for a 1 bed apartment with no parking not including taxes and utilites is about $1400 a month , any car you buy that is cheap like a shit car you pay 105% of it's cost in tax then fuel is $6 a gallon then you pay for new numberplates when you buy a used car about $1000 then you pay local taxes for druggies to live rent free and it goes on and on and on.

menawhile american nigger is living like you said a couple 100 bucks a month for rent and gas costs less than water and the car is practically free and a pack of cigarettes and a gun you get free when you fill up.

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>>134210715
those making $9 an hour don't pay 30% taxes. at least here in az, if you make $9 an hour and work 30 hours a week, you will get about $1,000 back from the government each year and $100 - $200 from the state.

pretty much you get more back from taxes than you actually put in. so not only do you get your money back, but you make a profit. let alone the tax rate for $9 an hour is insanely small.

i should know, i'm still a minimum wage cuck.

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>>134208300
You know better than that my fellow ameritard

>>134208300
It's not fucking socialism.

>>134214607
McMillion makes like 9$ per year for every employ he manages. That is incredebly low if you consider his responsiblity.

>>134208669
There is an actual term on why the northern European countries are so well off.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestant_work_ethic

>>134216364
no such thing as mandatory car inspection in canada

You need a lot of colony/oil money to achieve it. Then that money runs out and you forget you needed it. But the people don't want to give up their shit. So they keep voting for people who screw literally everything up just in order to keep it and thus fuck up your future.

Also it's a wonderful incubator for liberalism and weakness. EU socialism (and I speak from firsthand experience) is too perfect. When your salary is big enough, you have a huge safety net below you and you'll pretty much always be ok no matter what, things change. You become bored. You start developing softness. Life is too much of an utopia, it's too easy. Why have kids? Why try harder? Why care about society? These things completely fall to the side.

>>134210598
2/3 of our population is overweight. I would be okay with this.

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>>134208300

Look at OP's image.
Helga works the red light district at night and pulls 2-3K a night
Ja-Tryron smokes crack cocaine and has steal each night to support his habit

>>134216630
You really think that's why the rich Nordic countries are rich? Because they work more?

You really think the world works that way?

>>134208300
>$20 an hour
>government taxes 60% of it before you even touch it

>$20 an hour
>why get a real job when I can work in fast food for the rest of my life?

>>134216717
There is no EU Socialism, that's all in your head, we had Socialism exactly before EU, then Christian capitalists came and dragged us into EU. You are being retarded Christian, that's all there is to it and you will burn your own country blaming Socialism instead of people in charge. You should get a bullet in your dumb head or at least gulag. But perfect death would be to nail you "EU is Socialism" people all on cross so you can cry there how we are Socialism until you die a painful death.

>>134214607
>Comparing the responsibilities of a manager of an international multi-billion dollar corporation with the responsibilities of a high-school burger flipper
Oh yeah thanks for putting that into perspective, I can totally see why burger-flippers should make millions of dollars now.

>>134216049
>State owns partial stake in all major businesses.

not true


>Controls money flowing out of the country.

protectionism =/= socialism
>>134215928


>Ethno nationalism is Socialism,

took me a minute to realize you're retarded but you did a great job at clarifying it.

>>134216953
Are you on drugs?

>>134216953
EU is a scam to prop up Germany at the expense of everyone else.

Germany has trade surplus. While most of the EU cannot develop their economy.

>>134208300
You forgot to add, "speaks understandable Danish and English", "may ah take yo oder"

If you still are able to own the fruits of your own labor then its not socialism.

>>134208300
Everyone just kinda accepts the high taxes and it is hard for niggers to get their asylum approved here because of our based politicians. Works pretty nicely.

>>134208698
Excuse me, I identify as trans you biggot. How dare you push your social constructs on me
Seriously tho, i hate when faggots ID as trans, the point is to actually transition, no?

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>>134216460
also rent depends on the area. here in az, it depends on the region. flagstaff is pretty high but its also mini san francisco. has nearly no jobs, but a shitton of old hippies that left cali and a bleeding heart liberal university. you need looking at $700 - $1,800 a month in a city with nearly zero jobs. thanks stupid college student fucks and liberal shits.

but then you have phoenix and rent will depend on the region of phoenix. i'm in the west valley and rent in my town of about 140,000 people goes for about $400- $1000. $500 for a nice studio, and $900 for a nice three bed room.

but then you go off to scottsdale and rent goes up to as high as flagstaff, but you do get a lot more than flagstaff. $1,800 will land you an apartment that's pretty much the size of a house.

and i haven't even gotten into house rent. in my town the average rent for a fullsize house is about $1,000. toss in a pool and make it a two story and its $1,700.

>>134217004
Yes, ethno nationalism is literally multiculturalism. You should ask Hitler, he had a protectorate over gypsies, over Jews, we had the same, but Hitler's flaw was that he wanted to kill them. Hitler even had Indian Nazis and African Nazis, but those he liked more, they still didn't interracial breed with Germanic race.

>>134217146
That's fucking semantics. And it's communism.

Socialism is just a system of higher tax and more state involvement. Seriously, this is politics 101, fucking kids know it, why does it cause such confusion in /Pol/?

>>134208300
European socialism only works because your nations are under the US security umbrella. If you had been paying your own defense for the past 70 years, your economies would look much different. Has nothing to do with ethnic makeup. >>134208300

>>134215664
at least my post had more intellectual content than "lol no"
you domesticated faggot

>>134216727
And the majority of the population. Is spread out over an area that you could fit a bunch of denmarks in. Try again

>>134216870
You'd earn about 38k working at McDonald's in Norway, and you'd pay about 22% in taxes.

>>134217109
Avarage germans struggle quite hard aswell. And once TARGET2 pops Germany will be fucked beyond belief.

EU is a scam on working people made for the benifits of politicians and their cronies.

>>134217260
no feet, no skeet

>>134217424
100 percent new car tax.

>>134217294
Socialism is literally a system with lowest tax you moron. Less financial institutions and less international institutions you have, less tax you have. Socialism had 1 bank, 1 insurance company owned by people, controlled by people and you know people don't raise their own taxes, since for starters insurance company in Socialism is nothing but an account, doesn't needs management and ads, basically ads were banned in Socialism, still are in China.

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>>134216834
>gipsy about to school us on work ethic.

>>134208300
You can't have socialism where niggers make up for more than 10% of the population because they'll all sit on welfare and shit out 8 niglets each. None of them want to work.

>>134210458
>We dont have socialism
>high taxes
>free healthcare

Sure thing

>>134208300
>50% income tax
What was your point again?

>>134217459
>Avarage germans struggle quite hard aswell.

You're reelecting Merkel or worse, electing Shulz, so that's not true. If you're struggling why would you vote for them?

Come back and try to pull that sympathy shit once Merkel doesn't have a 100% chance to win.

>>134217424
The rent cost and other taxes eat the rest.

>>134217545
>Socialism is literally a system with lowest tax you moron.

Oh, ok, you're not on drugs you are just really, really stupid.

>>134208300
>high taxes = socialism
really pops those peanuts

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>>134217469
shows some of her feet. shes some ranchers daughter who fancy's herself a mexican kardashian here in phoenix.

>>134217578
>Kingdom of Sweden
>Kingdom of Denmark
Yes, kingdoms always had the highest tax, which is why people killed kings to create Socialism, a system with lowest tax and ownership by people instead of king.
Shut up with your free meme already.

>>134217391
They need the extra exercise

>>134208300
The European worker is:
>educated
>speaks the dominant language fluently
>part of the areas homogenous culture
>not intending to make a career out of food service

Most employers wouldn't mind paying more for low level workers. The problem is that these workers bring nothing to the table. They often are poorly educated, have a rough grasp on language, make the same repetitive mistakes.

Wether you like it or not, poor people are poor because the make bad decisions. If you are struggling to make ends meet at your fast food job, it's because you made bad decisions that lead you there. Why should the rest of society pick up for your poor decision making?

>>134208300
Easier to spend your money on people that look, act, and think like you. White people just happen to be the majority in the US for now, but don't get confused. Black people as a community don't want their money spent on white people, asians on hispanics etc. Each group wants theirs to succeed over the other which is not beneficial to a socialist society.

>>134217548
>Gypsy

Sure, what the fuck, enjoy your gyppo infestation. Like every other nation that thinks we are all gyppos.

Spoiler: I signed a gyppo petition against discrimination in western countries. Have them all, free us of the virus.

>>134216073
>Fucking
(I've got your back fampai)

>>134217687
You are a retard that doesn't understands why taxes are increased. If i own my country i don't increase taxes/inflation, elites increase taxes/inflation/rent when they own your housing sector. The only thing you can increase tax for in Socialism is food, since everything else i own, i own my house, i own my land, i own the company. Now genius try to increase tax for my compute here, lets see if you get paid.

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>>134213075
>they leech from the USA in order to have all those nice things.

I wouldn't consider it leeching. US foreign bases are strategically located inorder to ensure your military striking abilities globally. This comes with a price tag attached to it like everything in international politics.

>Hopefully we'll btfo of the NATO soon.

That would really lower your military impact world wide. You'd be voluntarily step down from your place as the one and only global super power which would impact your foreign diplomacy, trade and many other issues. Basically killing NATO would also kill US foreign trade.. For pretty much ever since NATO was formed the deal has been that you provide arms, support and in dire situation man power to keep your allies safe and they open their markets to your companies and provide your military with air bases and logistics inorder for you to have global reach to blow shit up anywhere and anytime you god damn please. That's a good deal for everyone involved but if you look it only as dollars spent it sure looks like your holding the shitty end of the stick. Take into account everything I've mentioned above its actually the weaker ally states holding up the shitty part.

>>134217991
Please don't reply to me any more. You are too stupid and I am ashamed at even conversing with you.

>>134218072
That's not even an argument you just gave up you capitalistic rent/debt slave.

>>134217294
Nope. Socialism is when a government controls all means of production and is precursor to Communism.

>>134217614
Because they are dumb Idiots that have 0 backbone. Germany has the lowest avarage savings of all 1st tier states in europe aswell as the lowest home ownership.

Also consider the following. If you call a random german nazi there is a good chance he gives you money. If you call a german public figure nazi you'll never have to work again.

>>134208300
So in other words, ethnonationalism is a prerequisite for a sustainable social welfare state. Thanks for clearing that up.

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you know, despite the knowlege that 99% of /pol/ is just satire and ironic comments, it still pisses me off to imagine people like they are portrayed here could actually exist.

jesus christ

>>134218238
>you know, despite the knowledge that 99% of /pol/ is just satire
That's what you think...

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>>134218238
Ya think you're hot shit, dontcha?!

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>>134218386
i refuse to believe that anything said here is meant seriously.

>>134218165
No, socialism is state enforced economic collectivism. Sure there are more extreme and less extreme examples of it, but they are all forms of socialism.

>>134212248
Impossible to say. Unlike Marxists or AnCaps I have never claimed to have the powers of political divination.

>>134217815
>the sandnigger here can't read, write or speak on a appropriate level.
>have 0 social skills
>terrible work ethic (always late, unreliable and that stuff)
>entitled as fuck because no one dares to tell them the truth
>create lots of drama and problems

My storemanager doesn't even read applications from 3rd world migrants because it's a waste of time.

>>134218165
No, Socialism is when people control all means of production, not government, government only regulates, provides army/jobs. In capitalism all means of production are owned by private government that receives lobbying money from international capitalists, who own government like they own your industry, but government still only writes laws, manages, but doesn't provides jobs, nor education, unlike Socialism. Right now even your army is privatized, which is why they don't protect your borders and instead chase oil fields. They don't care who lives in USA, all the same to them, no racial definition, no culture definition, you just bring money or work force.

>>134218475
Your understanding of /pol/ is backwards. 99% of it is serious. 1% is satire.

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>>134209561
>>134208300
>>134210027
>>134210715
Disposable income is the amount of net income you have after taxes. Taking disposable income and comparing it to cost of living most European countries are poorer than most US states. On the Mises link, it shows Denmark being the equivalent to Missouri.

https://mises.org/blog/if-sweden-and-germany-became-us-states-they-would-be-among-poorest-states

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income#Disposable_Income_per_capita_.28OECD.29

>>134218165
No it fucking isn't you mongol, once production belongs to the country it IS communism.

Socialism is just when the state is big and involved in the market. There are hundreds of examples of socialism where a free market functioned perfectly fine, with simply higher taxes and bigger government involvement. They were all called socialism.

Fuck me, how can you be trying to discuss politics in a politics board without knowing THE most basic concepts?

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>>134208300
>what is wrong with European socialism

Everything. Starting with turning everyone into parasites and ending with attracting leeches from the entire world.

>ethnically homogeneous countries

What a useless question. That ship sailed centuries ago. It's time for you to wake up and face reality.

>>134218726
good satire bro

>>134218636
>>134218720
>>134218750

lulz

>>134218726
This is true, the invasion of Reddit has brought some people who seem like satire, but they are truly, sadly serious.

>>134218703
Importing third world migrants is importing the third world. Why Western Civilization can't see that is a mystery to me.

>>134218868
then why are you still here, if the content you consume is no longer satirical?

i am confused

>>134218475
Maybe you should get the fuck out then

>>134208669
(you)

>>134208300
Tick tock automation on the clock

>>134218801
Don't laugh at me man, I'm trying to explain basic concepts to people on the board I've been discussing politics at for years now. It's deeply depressing.

>>134218930
He is here to combat redditors like you. Bye

>>134218764
There is no Socialism in EU you dumb Yankee, we got American army instead of own army, your big three companies decide our credit ranking, while you forgot to lower your own.

>>134218930
I was always here for the real discussion. Foreign ideas are new to me, facing new ideas and opinions enriches a mind. Even sorta stupid ideas.

>>134219082
i dont even have a reddit account you massive faggot

>>134208300
add
>Small population
>Wealthy

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>>134208669

>leaf

>>134208300
The Tax there is also 65%. Leaving them with.... Wait for it.... About 8 dollars an hour

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>>134208946

High costs of living

Must have high cost of pay

It evens out when compared to lower wages but lower cost of living prices

>>134219020
I thought it was pretty clear from the very start that I was trolling.

>>134212105
they exist they're just perfecting it

>>134216066
True, this cancerous ideology comes from the US.

Why try and represent McDonald's workers as the face of minimum wage workers?

You do realise that technology is being g developed for burger flipping robots right? If I could get away with paying these lowlifes just half a dollar an hour I'd do it. They fucked up their education, they pay the full price. Eternal poverty, stuck in the working class for life. Their only hope is to shit out as many kids as possible and pray that one of them is lucky enough to be born with an IQ level over 100.

>>134208300
>pension
What do you think those social security deductions out of your paycheck are for? Lemme guess, you've never had a paycheck

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>>134219268
No it doesn't.

>>134208300

We don't have the American idea of socialism. Norway has the most wealthy people per capita in the world. Bernie Sanders socialism is full of shit.

>>134219365
No it wasn't, 90% of your country is that uneducated in politics and history they would easily claim that. Plus the invasion of Reddit has thrown in the stupidest fucks and I spend all my time in Ameri/Pol/ explaining the simplest shit to them.

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>>134208669
A fucking leaf

>>134219245
>The Tax there is also 65%
Are you completely fucking retarded?
I mean, how fucking stupid do you have to be to know this little about how taxes work?

>>134215166
Kek, keep telling yourself that.

>>134218909
It's beyond paradox. Everyone pretends he/she doesn't know but they all know. The problem is that if you start acting against it you have the people that profit from this (the high level state employees and lawyers mainly) go after you. And everyone is deeply afraid because he has to much to loose. Trust me when I say big buisness leadership in stuff like retail and manufacturing is woke af. If they aren't voting Merkel because they are cronies they all vote AFD.

If nazis were any clever they'd be in power within 10 years across all of europe and able to murder niggers/shitskins in 20years.

>>134219653
I guess man, but cmon, they were literal the most simple minded dictionary style defintions possible. Just hung out in the thread waiting for somone to bite.

But, thinking about what you just said, yeah, you're probably right.

why would one ethnic group constantly subsidize another ethnic group?
prosperity percentage is very different in different ethnic groups, especially when the groups originate from different continents. For example Europeans ancestry vs south american natives ancestry. Or African blacks...
Welfare only works in societyes where the one or all present ethnic groups are high prosperity high work ethic, and low percentage of each group falls behind. You could have social system with a country made of 50% nordic and 50% japanese. If ~1% of white people fall behind, while 80% of blacks and 10% of the society is blacks, then the white 89.9% have to subsidize 9% of the population instead of 1%. 8/9th of the welfare subsidies are paid outside of the ethnic group. There is not ethical justification for that.

>>134220434
>implying you have ethnic groups
>implying your wannabe ethnic groups decide things
Your elites own all melting pot groups, they decide how they shit.
>one or all present ethnic groups are high prosperity high work ethic
And that brings us to important question who measures work ethic in capitalism? Your boss? He will measure it low and you can work like a horse if he wants to fire you. In Socialism the government measures it, because the government provides jobs and there is no flaw who works and who doesn't, surely every single boss didn't work so we removed that profession for the most part and give them salary based on efficiency, can't be more than 50% more than any other worker, else you must be superman.

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>>134208669
>

https://youtu.be/nTdMY9RI-7E

>>134220989
In socialism (that we had in Hungary until 1989), the bosses were not selected based on efficiency, but based on PC-compliance and ideology-paddling. That is inevitable. Read the gulag archipelago, it explains why it is inevitable.

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>>134215378
>Be Canadian
>Can't get job at Tim Hortons because Somalis and Africans only
>Go $100,000 into debt to get a STEM degree
>Graduate
>Try to get STEM jobs, can't, because no straight whites since Government subsidizes non-white immigrants/LGBTQHIV+ people
>Try to get government job, can't because of Gender Based Analysis Plus, no straight whites, only poor africans/muslims/chinks/poos/LGBTQHIV+
>Try to join military, can't, diversity hires only
>Try to join police, can't, diversity hires only
>Get job at Burger King making $11 CAD / $8 USD
>Pay 58.75% in taxes
>Serve rich refugees Halal meat who get $10,000/month for free
>Get in car accident, break wrist
>Free Healthcare!
>3 months wait for surgery, wrist fuses incorrectly meanwhile
>Can't use right hand
>Lose Burger King job
>Get Depressed
>Get Rx'd anti-depressants
>Can't fill Rx because free Rx is only for refugees
>Apply for welfare
>Wait in line with all shitskin refugees on iPhone 7 Plus wearing designer clothes
>Hear only halal
>Go to kiosk, "yes ma'm I'd like to apply for welfare. Here are my forms"
>"What's a white man doing applying for welfare?" Proceeds to forward my application to welfare fraud office
>Forgot to declare bank account never used because government knows about and seizes any money in it to pay student loan interest, which is 10% since government uses a private company
>Get charged and convicted of welfare fraud
>Criminal Record, can't get welfare or job
>Try to commit suicide
>Wake up in ER on life support with 10 Doctors working
>"No I want to die, can I apply for euthanasia?it's legal now"
>"No Anon, your suffering isn't great enough, denied"
>Get evicted
>Become homeless
>Spend time begging and warming up inside Burger King
>See TV
>See Al Qaeda terrorist on news
>See Trudeau gave him $10.5M for killing US soldier

This is the life of a Canadian

>>134221326
They've already started to implement that in the west, via gender quotas and affirmative action.

>>134221326
Bosses in Socialism are selected by workers, you vote for boss and then Socialistic government sends the candidate to education for his workplace, if he fucks up you can always vote him down, why didn't you? Workers are owners of company and in capitalism some fat Jew is owner of company who picks a boss. So where's the problem?

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>>134217424
and everything you buy is marked up 50-100% in taxes.

socialism would work if everyone had a great work ethic and the right attitude in society.

but it's not possible for socialism to work. too many degenerates, niggers and corruption in the system.

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>>134210590
and you scando faggots only ever seem to say that when we bring up facts and never offer any counter facts of your own.
Really jiggles my tits.