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>my religion is right because my parents taught me it

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>my religion is right because my parents taught me it
christains pls
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>>134192987
no, it's right because it promotes universalism as an ethical standard - contrary to other (((abrahamic religions)))
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>>134193200
kys
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>>134192987
Bait thread
Do not reply, sage and hide
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>>134192987
Look at how other non western (and hence non christian) civilizations turned out. You're just a faggy rebel.
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Least Christian Children can later decide to drop the whole thing without being put to death
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>>134192987
it's right because it's the only major religion in the world that is based heavily in european culture and unlike atheism and paganism doesn't allow men butt fucking and isn't a religion populated mostly by desert people unlike islam
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>>134193393
b-but f-fuck j-jeebus, see i'm so original and edgy guys give me compliments
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>>134193393
Europe is a LOT more atheist than you think, ad hominem discarded
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>>134193466

>I believe in supernatural bullshit because I don't like the gays.
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>>134193580
yeah very recently and recently europe has been the home of the cuckold, 3rd world african bull, and whore so that isn't necessarily a good thing
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>>134192987
>you should ignore your parental responsibilities and let your children burn in hell
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Europe is becoming more atheist, and they are becoming more cucked
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>>134193696
sorry that i believe a mental disorder that spreads hiv and aids like mosquitos from still water is sick, you know it's not like even though only 3% of the population is homo yet commits 1/3 of child sex crimes or anything, neck yourself sodomite
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>>134192987
Your parents also had someone snip off part of your peepee before you were old enough to understand why or give informed consent. Is that right?
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>>134193696
>i dont believe in God because i like getting assfucked

Stay cucked, limey
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>>134193884

You know you can be an Atheist and have that opinion too right? Just saying.

>>134194041
lol
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>>134193983
You are aware that most Christians are not circumcised, aren't you?

Galatians 5:6

For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision: but faith that worketh by charity.
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>>134194188
you know atheism allows it because atheism has no moral code or no reason to follow one either, who cares if all we do is fuck in one big drug fueled orgy it's not like we'll go to hell right?
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>>134194323
it's completely jewish, that doesn't stop burger parents from being tricked like mine unfortunately
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>>134194323
Keep telling yourself that.
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>>134193580
Good argument ivan, Europe is literally the pinnacle of humanity right now
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>>134192987
>my religion is right because my muslim parents try to murder all the non-muslims
>atheism is right because i want to reap the benefits of Christian dogma while being a moral degenerate.

non-christians pls
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>>134193580
And as atheism became more popular in Europe we have also gotten a lot more cucked. But I'm sure that's just a coincidence.
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>>134193393
We live in a post-Christian West, and it's only getting progressively worse the further we move away from traditional Christian ways
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>>134192987
>my beliefs are right because my communist vegetable parents and school teachers taught me

Without religion what does one believe in? What prevents the race from turning into a bunch of degenerate brutes regressing towards a warring tribes level with each generation?
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>>134194771
we started moving away in general in the 60s and now we have transsexuals mutiliating themselves and people announcing fuck god i love men the west is in it's death spirals
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>>134194694
Excuse me? Europe leads the free world now because America was reduced to a joke
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>>134192987
>tfw when i grew up with most of my family being muslims and the other side never talking about religion
>tfw lived mostly atheistic thinking there might be more to this
>tfw few months after coming to /pol/ i found to jesus
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>>134192987
My parents were practically atheists, I was never baptized, never once went to church, never once taught anything about religion.

I realized how important religion was after 4 years of suicidal depression. I became religious totally without their influence and through my own reasoning.
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>>134192987
>My (insert belief here) is right because my (insert authority figure) taught me it
Brainlets pls
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>>134193745
>>134193860
>>134194644
>>134194694
Plain wrong. Secularism has been the predominant force of Europe for over 300 years

We all know you're just larping and that's fine. I do voluntary youth service in my church to help the community but I don't pretend to be retarded enough to belief the magic bullshit
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>>134195893
missed opportunity. You should have killed yourself.
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>>134195442
What do you like about Yeshua?
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>>134195426
>Europe leads free Europe
ты eбaнyтый?
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heaven and hell is real, september 23,2017 is the judgement day777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777
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and if you think athiest=special then idk wht r u doing wid ur life. u need Jesus
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>>134192987
the albanian has returned
>muh muslimry no Christian boo-hoo

At least Christian children are baptized with the Holy Spirit and will be protected from the 5th seal of the Apocalypse while all other heathen and jewslims will be tormented day/night.
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>>134196252
he just makes sense. BTFOing moneychanger out of the temple, being forgiving but defending of what is dear to you, calling out the (((jew))). wether he was the son of god or not, his words ring true in my ear, and if he didnt lie about anything else why would he lie about that? of course that doesnt proof that there is anything spiritual/divine in this world, but i looked a lot into symbology of the old and occult principles and believes and that made me basically believe there is more to this world than just the material one. one thing that pops up again and again
>as above, so below
>as in heaven, so on earth
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>>134192987
Luciferian.

Sage
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>>134192987
gays are disliked because they are disgusting and annoying
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>>134197323
are you, by your own logic, gay?
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>>134193847
Hell is not demension, but a lack of god, retard
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>>134197427
No, i am not gay, unlike you.
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>>134192987
OP has chosen satan's jeweled crown. Sad.

Satan's Jeweled Crown - The Louvin Brothers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PizBVqcAn0o
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>>134192987
As if it's any different with the theology of political correctness and the global warming cult.
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>>134198002
H a h a

Goteem
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But let me guess... Islam is great and deserves praise... Typical liberal bullshit. We don't to shit to anyone and yet we receive the most criticism from you fucknuts.
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>>134192987
But I wasn't raised Christian
I felt God calling out to me
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>>134197555
>22But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to his brother, ‘Raca,’ will be subject to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be subject to the fire of hell.
How do christlarpers even manage to discredit themselves and look more pathetic with literally every post
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>>134194771
>We live in a post-Christian West, and it's only getting progressively worse the further we move away from traditional Christian ways
WRONG
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>>134192987
No, my religion is MINE because my parents gave it to me. Much like my race, my culture, and my language.

Oh wait, what would a Russian know about culture. I suppose in your case, you're right to hate everything your parents left you.
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>>134192987
>>my religion is right because my parents taught me it

every child inherits the religeon or is massivly infleuenced by their parents political beliefs nigger for example if you grow up in a conservative household youre more likely to be a conservative yourself.
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>>134194771
>the main problem of the west is refugees and racial egalitarianism
>christianity calls for refugees and is racially egalitarian
Really makes you larp
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>>134193983
Yes, it's true. But it still gets big, hard and shoots seed.
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>>134198278
Allegory. NEXT.
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>>134192987
>“You shall therefore impress these words of mine on your heart and on your soul; and you shall bind them as a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontals on your forehead. 19“You shall teach them to your sons, talking of them when you sit in your house and when you walk along the road and when you lie down and when you rise up. 20“You shall write them on the doorposts of your house and on your gates, 21so that your days and the days of your sons may be multiplied on the land which the LORD swore to your fathers to give them, as long as the heavens remain above the earth. 22“For if you are careful to keep all this commandment which I am commanding you to do, to love the LORD your God, to walk in all His ways and hold fast to Him, 23then the LORD will drive out all these nations from before you, and you will dispossess nations greater and mightier than you

This is why you must teach your children the ways of the LORD that they do not go astray and follow the ways of the World.
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>>134198536
>I ignore christian teachings whenever they don't fit me
WTF? You seem totally like a believing christian and not a larper now.

>>134198423
>my religion is MINE because my parents gave it to me. Much like my race, my culture, and my language
26“If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters — yes, even his own life — he cannot be My disciple.
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>>134192987
My religion is right because we stole God from the kikes and turned most of them into a bunch of wretched faggy atheists. The Apostles cucked the Jews hard! Praise the Lord!
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>>134193466
Brilliant. The face of /pol/.
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>>134193884
Also anal sex is not a prerequisite to being gay. I mean be real.
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>>134198469
It calls for spiritual egalitarianism in terms of who can be justified. It's just common sense that the creator of a system(our world) would give fair play to all in terms of salvation. What sort of creator would exclude particular souls based on physical avatars? That's what it means when it says there is neither this group or that group, etc. It's not talking about immigration policy.
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>>134192987
>my religion is right because my parents taught me it
That just shows that you know absolutely nothing about religion. Every religion, at least the non-muslim ones, have a coming of age ceremony around the age of 14 where you can actively join your religion or deny it. The choice is yours. You can leave any time.
Except for Islam, they stone you to death for leaving.
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>>134192987
>my religion is right because my prophet raped me into it

Aiysha please
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>>134194771
Lol no, christjew cuckery in the poison that has led to all of our feelsy bullshit everything goes garbage
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>>134198469
>christianity calls for refugees and is racially egalitarian
Only recently.
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>>134195893
Also my case. It literally saved my life.
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>>134200177
No. Ever since Jesus and every denomination.
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>>134192987
>Christianity is the root of homophobia
Bullshit. I hate fags for their spread of disease and destruction of proper families. The Bible didn't tell that, but the stats ended up proving it.
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Fate of the unlearned:

>The fate of the unlearned, also known as the destiny of the unevangelized, is an eschatological question about the ultimate destiny of people who have not been exposed to a particular theology or doctrine and thus have no opportunity to embrace it. The question is whether those who never hear of requirements issued through divine revelations will be punished for failure to abide by those requirements.
>It is sometimes addressed in combination with the similar question of the fate of the unbeliever. Differing faith traditions have different responses to the question; in Christianity the fate of the unlearned is related to the question of original sin. As some suggest that rigid readings of religious texts require harsh punishment for those who have never heard of that religion, it is sometimes raised as an argument against the existence of God, and is generally accepted to be an extension or sub-section of the problem of evil.

The argument presupposes God couldn't have so ordered the world that those who never hear the Gospel are only people who would not have believed it and anyone who would have believed it is born at a time and place in history where he does hear it, which implies God, by definition of omnipotence, doesn't exist, which implies God isn't omnibenevolent -- an implicit premise that is supposed to be the conclusion of the argument -- therefore, the argument begs the question.

We are not condemned based on rejection of the gospel; we are condemned because we are sinners. God's wrath is revealed against everyone who suppresses His truth revealed through creation. God is merciful in that He has provided a way of salvation via Christ for those who will accept Him. But God is also just in that unrepentance will not go unnoticed.
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Argument from inconsistent revelations:

>The argument from inconsistent revelations, also known as the avoiding the wrong hell problem, is an argument against the existence of God. It asserts that it is unlikely that God exists because many theologians and faithful adherents have produced conflicting and mutually exclusive revelations.

This is just as likely if God exists. Many theologians and faithful adherents have produced revelations of a great deceiver, whom produces revelations. Therefore, it is as likely the great deceiver exists as it is unlikely God exists. The likelihood the great deceiver exists is equivalent to the likelihood God exists. Therefore, it is as likely God exists as it is unlikely God exists.

>The argument states that since a person not privy to revelation must either accept it or reject it based solely upon the authority of its proponent, and there is no way for a mere mortal to resolve these conflicting claims by investigation, it is prudent to reserve one's judgment.

Modal scope fallacy and false dichotomy. Not "privy" doesn't imply necessarily not privy. There is one additional option. The only way for a "mere mortal" to be privy to revelation is by investigation. Therefore, it is prudent to investigate, not to reserve one's judgment.

>It is also argued that it is difficult to accept the existence of any one God without personal revelation. Most arguments for the existence of God are not specific to any one religion and could be applied to many religions with near equal validity. When faced with these competing claims in the absence of a personal revelation, it is argued that it is difficult to decide amongst them, to the extent that acceptance of any one religion requires a rejection of the others. Further, were a personal revelation to be granted to a nonbeliever, the same problem of confusion would develop in each new person the believer shares the revelation with.

Deciding among them is irrelevant upon personal revelation.
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>>134200435
Oh, you're one of those faggots.

If God believes in racial egalitarianism why did he tell the Jews to exterminate the Caananites?

God is to be worshiped by individuals of all nations, but nowhere does he declare them equal.
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>>134200865
get that propaganda away from me
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>we have been following a book that says that donkeys talk for 2000 years already, how dare you say this is dumb
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>>134201006
>why did he tell the Jews to exterminate the Caananites?
Certainly not for racial reasons as the virginial women were allowed to live.
Of course you didn't know that because you never read the story.

>but nowhere does he declare them equal
Every denomination in history and the bible disagrees with you. I just don't get it. How can larpers think this "every denomination for 2000 years, jesus and the bible were wrong and MY version of christianity that ignores everything I don't like, teaches the opposite of christianity and is ctually national socialism is the real christianity" convinces anyone one?
Do you not see how pathetic that looks that even the quote unquote christians don't stand for christianity anymore?
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>eating shit is european
>we have been doing it for 2000 years since a jew told us to
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>>134200435
The reason we have refugees is because ZOG governments are causing havoc in the middle east and africa and the turning around and not enforcing borders. Look at sweden, they aren't even religious, and they are one of the worst.
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>do you think there is a god?
>this book here says the truth!
>Oh? That book says you can do miracles
>puts up an excuse as to why he can't do miracles

Yeah nah, it is a false religion.
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>>134201551
Nothing you said disagrees with me
And the churches in sweden call for more refugees.
Meanwhile in atheist Iceland no refugees.
But of course why care about facts when you can just post DEUS VULT xDD and feel better about procrastinating another day
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>jew preaches religion
>people accept it as true
>time goes on
>the book says the world is 6000 years old
>science advances
>millions of years old
>people cling to the book
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>>134201400
>Every denomination in history and the bible disagrees with you.
Yet those bible thumping Christians went out from Europe 500 years ago and subjugated everyone. Really makes you think, eh?
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>>134192987
>my atheism is right because that's what pop culture taught me

XD
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>>134201473
Explain why non christians are going along with the migration? Why is it that countries like sweden, who are not religious, are some of the worst? Why is it that it wasn't until the decline of christianity that mass immigration started? Could the blame be more appropriately placed on ZOG and media brainwashing? Also, could the blame be put on white people being faithless degenerates?
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>>134201962
Europeans conquered the world IN SPITE of the bible, not thanks to it.
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>>134202192
Christians are the first to call for charity or they are roleplayers.
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>>134202198
Kek.

Jesus told them to go out and make disciples of all nations. They did.

A dispute over jurisdiction in South America between Portugal and Spain was settled by the pope. Several US states started as settlements for particular denominations.

But no, modern secular people are able to better discern what is Christian teaching than people hundreds of years ago that actually took this stuff seriously.
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>>134202584
>Jesus told them to go out and make disciples of all nations. They did.

No, they were making land conquers for their kings, only priests cared about instilling religion.

Also practicing a false religion is a mental illness.
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>>134193580
yes Europe is literally paradise right now huh?
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>>134202741
If we were majority of christians we would be worse off, not better.
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>>134193393

you do realise non-religous people acount for 22.9% of the US population.

To break it down:
Atheists - 3.1%
Agnostics - 4.0%
Apatheist (doesn't give a shit, but doesn't subscribe to any religion) -15.8%

Source: Pew Research Center (2014)
Now PRC did the exact same study back in 2007, where the total non-religious percentage was 19.5% (a 3.4% increase in non-religous populations).

Also, fuckwit, many non-religous people (myself included) don't mind Christian values/traditions but think it's retarded to pray to some all-powerful space-wizard every time i flip some nigger off in traffic.
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>>134202724
>only priests cared about instilling religion.
You're greatly underestimating how offensive the typical Westerner found the heathens and their retarded religion.
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>>134202192
Non christian isn't a unified belief system. You're not christian nd you're against migration

>Why is it that countries like sweden, who are not religious, are some of the worst
Because you willfully ignore every country that refutes that claim. Because you're a larper.

>Why is it that it wasn't until the decline of christianity that mass immigration started?
Lying is a sin larpbro. Europe has been secular for 300 years and secularism started the enlightenment the golden(est) age of europe and imperialism

None of that changes that christianity is a prorefugee racially egalitarian movement anyways. Christlarpers unironically accept the destruction of the west to feel better about themselves.
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>>134202198
Again
>Explain why non christians are going along with the migration?
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>>134202967
I'm not christian and I don't go along with the migration.
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>>134202967
Because you're ignoring non christians who don't go along with migration.
Because you're a pathetic larprat who willfully throws out truth and integrity and embraces destructive christian teachings because "i have a crusader wallpaper that makes me feel tough XD"
christlarpers are literally the lowest form of ""humans"" imaginable.
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>>134192987
As a convert, this kind of shit is just stupid.

By the way, OP, who taught you naturalism was correct? Your parents? Your school?
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All Middle Eastern faiths are built on falsehoods and petty lies.
All of paganism is just Larping with no true understanding of the ways of old. It is also untrue.
Same goes for Shinto, Hinduism, and Buddhism, among others.
Deep down inside, you know what the true path is.
Go Atheist.
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>>134203405
I believe in God without a religion, works for me and its scientifically the most accurate belief you can have, a personal and truthful belief.
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>>134203405
>atheist
Atheist isn't a path. You say nothing.
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>>134202943
>Europe has been secular for 300 years and secularism started the enlightenment the golden(est) age of europe and imperialism
Europe is secular yet christianity is responsible for europes problems. Fascinating.
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>>134203405

Worship yourself and your own material desires like a retard animal.
Go Atheist.
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>>134195442
Are you me?
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>>134203663
What's wrong with material desires? Give me your stuff retard.
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>>134192987
my religion is right because it literally is the foundation of western civilization, which consequently is now being ruined by atheism
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https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2017-06-26/americans-overwhelmingly-support-gay-marriage-poll-shows

>mfw christ cucks trying to stop the dick suck storm
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>>134203655
>refugees are the problem
>christians who call for refugees are not part of the problem
Literally how is it so hard to understand: Everytime you argue so dishonestly it discredits your larp and it does not make it more credible
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>>134194690
>literal child fuckers
>not degenerates
Christ cucks, pls
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Religion is government. Tax it.
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>>134203821
Based pagan
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the pope in action
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>>134202943
What countries refute his claim? North Korea? Vietnam?

>Secularism started the golden age of Europe

Typical dumbass atheist trying to revise history. Your secularism destroyed Europe and is continuing to do so by promoting degeneracy over traditional values.

With a flag like yours though, you're probably too brainwashed by the European Union's propaganda to see the shit happening in Europe thanks to your secularism.
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>>134203772
Nothing is wrong with material desires innately. The issue is finding that to be the end of it. Our moral nature and our reason compel us to things beyond the material.
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>>134203772

Atheists are the biggest pussies in the world. Try and take it faggot.
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>>134202862
>jews don’t want you to leave christianity and become an atheist
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>>134204181
> + flag
Are you the same guy in that other thread that announced he was an actual pedophile?
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>>134203227
There's no such thing as Christlarpers. The only people who pretend to be Christian on the internet are atheists who realise they have no arguments for atheism, so they just larp and troll instead with shit ass memes.
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>>134204181
Iceland

>Typical dumbass atheist trying to revise history. Your secularism destroyed Europe and is continuing to do so by promoting degeneracy over traditional values.
So you give cultural arguments to disprove you're just a cultural christian? Almost like you're a rat who throws out logic if it protects his larp.

>William Lane Craig
cringe
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>>134204231
>gimme munne gimme munne
gimme munne gimme munne
gimme munne gimme munne
gimme munne gimme munne
>lol u atheisttards are pussies
Try leaving the basement for a while
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>"M’lady but of course I don’t believe in anything without evidence I’m not an ignoramus. I believe that God doesn’t exist like a gentleman and a scholar."
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>>134204076
>>134204132
Cool, should I post pics of non christians doing stupid things as some kind of proof of something?
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>It's true because this old book said so and the old book said all the other old books are lies! All the other books call this one a lie but this book is true so they HAVE to be lies!
>Traditional ways are always the best, and we all know my religion has existed since the dawn of time! You can't get more traditional than the first culture ever!
>This religion teaches good morals because, after being brought up under the arbitrary moral system of this religion, I now believe that these morals are objectively good!

I seriously worry for the mental health of the majority of the world. It's astounding...
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>>134204355
>There's no such thing as Christlarpers
Lying is a sin larprat. Good thing you're an atheist.

>The only people who pretend to be Christian on the internet are atheists who realise they have no arguments for atheism
wew lad. I totally think you're an upright christian now.
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>>134204341
>projecting his self being a pedophile onto another person because he got butthurt by the truth

How can you be so butthurt? Maybe you should leave your atheist faith behind and stop fucking little kids.

Perhaps you should join the Catholic Church or the shitskins, seeing as every thread about religion on this site, seems to have you obsessively talking over touching little kids.
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>>134204773
Wait you're not a cathlarper? That scores you some points in my book.
Why the flag then?
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>>134192987

Facts are not the friends of the faggot.
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>>134192987
No, I found religion myself and I tried looking into a lot of different kinds, I just wanted to find the truth and it led me to the bible and Jesus
I think it is amusing that while I and people like me who share my beliefs would like to read the religious books of other religions (not fearing information) other religious people are afraid and my belief is that they are afraid because they don't seek the truth
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>>134204435
>muh larp
Keep going on about it. As I said, you're projecting your own history of being a larger onto others. I never claimed to be Christian though.

>you can only be Christian or atheist in my worldview!!!

This is why I consider you atheists mentally retarded.
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>>134193393
Africa and South America sure are nice places amirite?
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>>134204684
>>134204684
Don't worry, most of the world doesn't have Protestant logic.
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>>134204764
>hur no one's a Christian, we're just atheists role-playing

Imagine being this desperate over atheism's fading grip on the internet that you've brainwashed yourself to believe this.
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>>134204846
Conservatives.
What is your point? I don't deny christianity has positive aspects. I volunteer in church.

I'm saying it's teachings regarding race refugees meekness etc are destructive and retarded and furthering them by larping is a moronic pathetic thing to do.
I bet you any amount in the world I'm more often at church than you.
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>>134202085
More like
>My atheism is right because I sat down and thought about it for more than two seconds, even though most atheists wish religion was real.
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>>134203535
> its scientifically the most accurate belief you can have
So your telling me it's more likely for an all powerful, all knowing, thinking divine being to have come into existence in violation of many scientific laws rather than the universe just creating itself without the middleman in violation of only one or two laws?

>>134203557
I'm American; I have freedom of speech and can say what I please. You can't stop me even if you tried, namefag.

>>134203663
>Implying that's even a part of Atheism.
Why do Christians always try to heap on additional criticisms to Atheism that are not actually a part of the belief itself. Is it because most of them have no actual criticisms of it instead of "muh moral decay" or "muh liberalism"?
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>>134192987
religion should be eradicated
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>>134204957
>I never claimed to be Christian though
You did with your flag.

>you can only be Christian or atheist in my worldview!!!
Never said that

>This is why I consider you atheists mentally retarded.
Aww don't be so hard on yourself
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>>134204240
>be a free thinker or pledge your life to serving Jews
Tough choice, indeed, my friend.
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>>134204872
I can't respect the Templars for who they actually were and have a desire to end the threat of Islam?
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>>134205152
You thought about it and came up with naturalism, the mainstream worldview that European and American academia

Wow, what luck.
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>>134205102
>I never claimed to be Christian though
>hur no one's a Christian, we're just atheists role-playing
Yes. Yes.
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>>134204455

Somebody forgot to take his meds it seems. Having trouble opening the bottle, little guy?
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>>134204931
muh degeneracy
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>>134204948
>I just wanted to find the truth and it led me to the bible and Jesus
Then you haven't found the truth. Get back to work.
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>Atheists
LMAO

Okay GAYtheists, I got a question for you:

If Atheist God is real, then how come mommy says that Jesus loves me very very much? KEEP IN MIND that mommy would never lie to me and that I am her special boy.

I will await your "rebbutal"
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The epidemic of people who should be atheists getting cold feet and only going halfway and claiming "Deism" instead of Christianity is very alarming. I know some of them are trolling, but some of them are not. They know that Christianity is pants-on-head retarded in just about every regard. But "muh vague God that is also the entire Universe but I don't follow any Dogma but in reality I really do because I'm a Christian in everything but name" isn't as retarded somehow, because no Atheist can actually challenge my belief system because it's completely non-existent.

HAHA Atheists BTFO
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>>134205188
What? I didn't say to not talk. I'm saying "go atheist" says absolutely nothing. Atheism is "not-theism". How do you "go not theism"? There are tons of non-theistic views. Hell, there are lots of supernatural non-theistic religions. You DONT say ANYTHING by treating atheism as a view or path. As theism is extremely varied as "deity" is an umbrella term for lots of kinds of stuff, so is atheism extremely varied. And no, it's not a synonym for metaphysical naturalism.
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>>134205152
What about you think about it for a little longer bro?
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>>134193333
neck yourself retard
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>>134204931
>Topic: Religion
>"Better post cherry-picked (and some evidently made up) LGBT stats; that's relevant"
Are you actually this hung up about gays that you bring them up when it isn't even relevant?
Do you have something you want to tell us, anon?
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>>134192987
>being atheist is right because my parents decided that i should be atheist
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>>134192987
I just realized that in general the people I know who are smart and have proper degrees etc are most often religious while pseudo-intellectuals proudly boast being atheist without having any knowledge about religion at all but seem to imagine themselves gaining brain points for dismissing religion, this also make them tools ofc
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>>134205594
You got me.

I will accept Jesus.
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>>134205696
>and they can back it up using evidence, logic and reason
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>>134205648
>"M’lady Jesus was an ethnic Jew."
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>>134205188

Dude seriously, if you're an atheist what do you live for? You're just some animal who is going to grow old and die. You're going to start telling me you believe in higher virtue, honor, duty, etc?

gtfo with that shit.
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If religion is so moral why are cases of Child molesting in the church so high?
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>>134202909
> >>134193393 calls the US religious.
>b-but you realize that not even 1/4th of the US isn't religious, right b-baka
So the large majority of the US is religious. Thanks for proving the point.
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>>134205752
>and they can back it up using evidence, logic and reason
They can’t.
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>>134203683
arent we all one?
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>not wanting to be saved
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>>134205594
She's been deceived herself. She had been told lies as if they were the truth from her parents and community. And they had been told by their parents and communities, and so on and so forth until the point of the first prophet, who told the lie either to provide a system of morality to the idiotic and uneducated (uneccessary now as we have a means to make everyone in the population educated) or to control the population itself (as is the case with various cults throughout history.
As such, your mother didn't know she was being lied to and genuinely believed it to be true. I hope this explanation suffices.
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>>134205814
So the only reason you haven't necked yourself is because you want to brown-nose for some old faggot in the clouds?
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>>134205952
This is me replying to you, like you wanted me to
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>>134198278
the only times hell is mentioned is when telling people something, kinda like if I told you that if you don't stop taking up loans you will get fucked, you never see a portion of the bible dedicated to teaching us about hell the same way it teaches us about the other concepts, its just referred to in conversation between people, as the example you mentioned.

you also have the one with lazarus that often gets mentioned, about the drop of water on his tongue etc, same thing, its just people using language to get their point across and not a cannon description of the after life for sinners.
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>>134204931
>le gay is bad meme

WELL DONE FELLOW BROTHER IN JESUS' ARMS!
*tips bible*
Let's kill those gaytheists!
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>>134205752
>I can defending being an atheist using logic, evidence and reason
>meanwhile atheism isn't a substantial view in itself but a lack of one kind of branch of views

Hell, you can't define yourself correct even, Reddit, I don't expect you to perfectly wield reason and evidence.
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>>134192987
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>>134196032
That is until you actually look into history yourself and realize that even institutions like the UN is religious at heart (luciferian beliefs, lots of it based on the writings of Alice Bailey and other openly satanic people)
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>>134206053
Fuc u I'm gonna tell Jesus on u

>>134205726
Praise be!
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>>134205759
>"I believe in indivisible people that can return from the dead just like Zombies!"
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>>134205814
Surely you cannot be serious. Are you serious? This is a display of extremely low level intellect.

I believe in God, however life has more meaning from the atheist perspective.
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>>134206062

lol, why would I neck myself in the first place?

That's for atheists because they don't have any understanding of higher spiritual values or their role in the universe. Life begins and ends with their feels. When they feel bad, they off themselves.
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>>134206159
>I can logically reason that there is no supernatural creator of the Universe using evidence / lack-there-of
>n-no you can't because I say so!!
>reddit
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>>134206317
grb b8 m8 i 8 8/8 no h8 but I must say I can't rel8
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the overwhelming majority of "Christians" on /pol/ are just wielding it as a kind of memetic tool to preserve Western culture and don't even read the Bible let alone adhere to the principals of Christ. Pretty sure most are pseudo-agnostics.
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>>134206063
I’m serious bro. There’s no proof of Atheism and there never will be. Agnosticism is the right approach if you are not religious.
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>>134204516
this

I'd rather raise my sons Christian thanks
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>>134206317

So you're telling me that if you're in a life or death situation, and all over factors being equal, you'd prefer an atheist by your side over a religious person?
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>>134205612
Alright, fair enough. You win on a technicality.
Your still a namefag, though.

>>134205814
> if you're an atheist what do you live for?
The same things other people live for; a good environment to live in, prosperity for my community, personal excellence, etc. I just add the reduction of power of Middle Eastern religions while I'm at it, in particular with the death of Islam. If we could just nuke Mecca during their pilgrimage, it'll save us quite a bit of trouble.
Also fountains. Fountains are nice pieces of art and architecture. I want to build one some day.
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>>134206420
It isn't bait. This life is hollow from a Christian perspective and but a blink of an eye. Your only job is to obey. Then that is all you do for eternity is brown nose.

The average atheist perspective says that this is one life. Make it count, make it a world with less suffering. This is it.


If you're actually a Christian? This is exactly why people think ya'll is loony.
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>>134206422
>there is no proof that there is no proof of God

well alright then

>>134206603
>would you rather have someone who has every reason to keep living or someone who by all logic should have gotten their friends to kill them already so they could take an express train to heaven

Hard one
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>>134204931

How do you get a range of 24% to 90%???
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>>134206813
>Your only job is to obey

We all obey one thing or another. Some people obey the media and the mass corperations, others their base natural impulses and sin freely. Christians obey a higher ideal, the words of our lord Jesus. I know which I respect more.
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>>134206861
There’s no proof that Atheism is right and that the universe is Godless.
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>>134206928
Different studies I guess
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>>134206396
Read better. I'm saying that if you can't actually define yourself in a non-vague way (you defined yourself as "non-theism" and said you can defend such a title) and so I don't trust you to use reason and evidence effectively.

Now you make it worse!
>supernatural creator of the universe
This is only in specific parts of theistic religions. Other theistic systems don't have this but are wholly theistic. You rejecting one group of theism doesn't defend your view of not being theist. Further, you can go ahead and try to defend major points for a creator such as Divine Conservation but I have no hope for you from the weak shit you've been spouting.
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>>134206603
I prefer some one with integrity on my side. That has nothing to do with with religious belief.
I see more Christians wail about the fear of death, than I do atheists. Makes sense really... One of the two is so fearful of non-existence that they believe in some thing shown to be manipulated through out history. Also, I am not an Atheist.

I'm what is called a Panendeist.
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>>134192987
>believing in semitic tales
>european
For what purpose?
For semitic supremacy.
Shiggy diggy
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>>134206728

lol, yeah. Atheism in Europe is currently showing how it fails to not only understand Islam, but is unable to defeat Islam.
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>>134207062
There is overwhelming evidence that the Universe doesn't necessitate a God or creator or even a maintainer.

>>134207099
You're pedantic and I can't even get through the first paragraph of your stilted speech post. Typical of Christcuck apologists to complicate a conversation.

>saying you're atheist is vague and therefore you can't use reason or evidence hurr durr!!

>implying I'm going to read/respond to the 2nd trash paragraph of this post
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>>134207053
You're not required to do so at all. I only obey things I find logical or moral.
I suppose the closest thing I obey are the laws of physics.
It is possible to find an ethical system with out the need of some one else providing it for you.
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>>134205452
It will never end because one can never know everything, so far nothing fits better though and you are at least not doing much to help
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>>134206368
You just said that you can't understand what atheists live for because they have no belief in a higher power. This is directly projecting your feelings, since you find no reason to live other than your belief in god and can't understand how one goes on living without it.
That's pretty bleak.
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>>134207391
That’s no proof of Atheism.
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>>134192987
Nah I'm a convert to catholicism from atheism
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>>134207509
>the nonexistence of evidence for a God isn't proof that there isn't a God

okay then.................................................... ..... . . ... . ... (pause.... pause)... . .. . . retard
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>>134207391
>You're pedantic and I can't even get through the first paragraph of your stilted speech post. Typical of Christcuck apologists to complicate a conversation.

I wrote as accurately as I could to express my thoughts. If you are struggling with reading, tell me where and I can explain it to you better.

>call you out for vague, stupid claims
>insult me with no argument and admit to not reading to parts of it

So much for you using logic, reason, and evidence, eh?
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>>134207377
>It's the liberalism and atheism are the same thing meme.
Again, reaching for unrelated claims to try and debase the argument itself. In other words, not an argument.
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>>134192987

> I believe in Odin because it is reasonable
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>>134207158

I've never met an atheist with integrity. They always engage in nihilism and attempt to destroy all decent foundational institutions in society.

They are the scum of humanity who worship their own feels. When the happening occurs, keep these people far away.
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>>134192987
People of all religions say this though...
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>>134206368
>That's for atheists because they don't have any understanding of higher spiritual values or their role in the universe. Life begins and ends with their feels. When they feel bad, they off themselves.

How do you feel about the definition of spirit as as a sensation arising out of you?
Considering there is no actual evidence of a soul, I feel spirit is a more appropriate descriptor. One can feel a holy spirit rise into them however.

So tell me what you think about that definition.
Do you think this
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>>134207652
It really isn’t. Godlessness of the universe can’t be proven - Atheism can’t be proven
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>>134207696
>I wrote as accurately as I could to express my thoughts

you don't understand what being a pedant is. You don't conversate like a human being and I don't have much interest in having a conversation with you. For clarification, I don't understand much of anything you posted because it's all obfuscate and confusing as shit, as expected of a Christcuck apologist.

>I'm saying that if you can't actually define yourself in a non-vague way (you defined yourself as "non-theism" and said you can defend such a title)

>implying this is in any way a clear thought or argument / point and not just pedantic overcomplication word salad trash
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>>134207519
>converting to yesuah the jew.
Why cant you be monotheist woth European laws and traditions and not Jews?
>wordhipping king of jews
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the most degenerate countries in europe today are the ones where we see higher numbers of atheists.
what a fucking coincidence hum
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>>134206813
>Your only job is to obey

looks like you have completely missed the point. Have you actually read a bible?
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>>134192987
>abandon your religion because I said so
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>>134207473
>You're not required to do so at all
It aint about requirement, its about the fact that non-supreme gentlemen scholars like you (aka 99% of the population) will sin, consume pozzed media and ideologies/principles unless they have strong Christian institutions to guide them into the path of righteousness and save their damned souls. The decline in Christianity results in the fall of the West, which we are witnessing in front of our very eyes.

>I only obey things I find logical or moral
Subjective nonsense

>I obey the laws of physics
made me full on cringe

>It is possible to find an ethical system with out the need of some one else providing it for you.
God isn't someone else
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>>134192987
Prove to me that your religion is the absolute true one and I will join without hesitation, why put all my eggs in one basket right off the bat?
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>>134207473
do you obey things you find logic and moral or do you only obey the laws of physics?
I personally find that the rules in the bible are generally very logical and moral at least
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>>134207652
Well it fucking isn't
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>>134206010
that is spot on anon.
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It's not radical christianity itself that is good. Although core tenants are a net positive to western civilization. I am not religious at all and I can see that.

Edgy atheists need not apply.
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>>134192987
Deny god bro, thats on you

Its never too late though to let him in
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>>134208620
Then what mechanism do you use to decide what is true and what is not true?
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>>134207954
>you don't understand what being a pedant is. You don't conversate like a human being and I don't have much interest in having a conversation with you. For clarification, I don't understand much of anything you posted because it's all obfuscate and confusing as shit, as expected of a Christcuck apologist.


Well I posted the same thing to another atheist here >>134205612 and that atheist entirely got my argument and had the dignity to accept when he is wrong here >>134206728 so that's pretty strong evidence that it isn't "pedantic overcomplication word salad trash" and you are just struggling with words and verbiage too difficult for you. I would say that the evidence is against you.

Now I can still assist you, if you like.
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>>134202937
Religion was used as a way of dehumanizing the enemy, basically saying their not like us so it's ok to kill them, pretty much the least Christian motivation possible. anyone making decisions couldn't care less about spreading the faith, colonization was a power grab plain and simple.
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>>134193200
abrahamic means islam, judaism, and christianity.
All three are desert cuck religions that do not belong in a white society.
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>>134208854
>I can still assist you by saying you're not smart enough to understand my befuddled word salad trash

Why not talk to me like I'm 5 years old? Explain to me like I'm 5 years old why me being an atheist means I cannot employ logic and reason?
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>>134207391
I have heard many of the smart people who write the books that define our age and things like physics say that if you dedicate yourself to the field you will eventually find that there had to be a creator, even the Bogdanoffs agree so now I can take all the previous people who said the same thing more seriously, like stephen hawking

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xpqDdJ9k8Y
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>>134208880
>you need religion to dehumanize people
Why are you so delusional?
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>>134192987

No, your religion is right because it's the one that belongs to your people.

You fucking degenerate.
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>>134204931
Upon reading the bible something came to me

>faggots fuck eachother in the ass
>filth and shit mixed with sensitive dick skin= diseases
>bible also condemns sodomy
>imo it aimed to cleanse populations of illness
>be current year
>we have technology that enables faggots to fuck without spreading disease
>they are degenerates at their core and so fuck without condoms,spreading disease

AUTHORS OF THE BIBLE KNEW OF THIS,GOD KNOWS!
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>>134192987
I'm a convert so your argument is invalid
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>actually letting your mind regress to the point where you legitimately believe in ghost jew
*tips bible*
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>>134207966
jews = israelites = believers

read the bible, it is explained
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>>134208440
Religions are social tools, they build communities. You should join the religion of your people. The religion that reflects the genetics, the spirt, the soul of your people.

It doesn't matter if other groups don't believe in your religion - of course they won't, because they are different people, with different genetics, who thus behave differently, and therefore venerate different values.
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>>134209060
Straw-manning hard I see. Please show me where I said that in my post.
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>>134208347
>It aint about requirement, its about the fact that non-supreme gentlemen scholars like you (aka 99% of the population) will sin, consume pozzed media and ideologies/principles unless they have strong Christian institutions to guide them into the path of righteousness and save their damned souls. The decline in Christianity results in the fall of the West, which we are witnessing in front of our very eyes.

Once again, I am not an Atheist. I am a Panendeist. The kickback caused against Christianity is due to how oppressive religion has been in the past. You all need to learn true love and reason for your faith.
However, I do prefer Christians over Muslims by faaaar. Most of the SJW idiots are just as fanatical with out reason as you Abrahamic theists. They often believe in the God known as the state. Often with out reason.
The only case for your type of system is that the average person is truly an idiot and requires a simple rule system to guide them.
Though in my humble opinion? It would be far better for the facts of science, tempered by philosophy to guide humanity. Though that is hard, because it requires an extraordinary amount of introspection and observation of this world to realize, we are all one organism upon this planet.
Islam sure as fuck is impossible to reform.

>Subjective nonsense
As is your belief in Christianity. The only thing objective about it? It is a system designed to control the common man, with out reason other than muh morals. Many of which are evil, that are often held to be good. Such as shunning of LGBT, drug use, all forms of prostitution, a woman teaching a man. Need I go on?

>made me full on cringe
That would be because you're projecting your own understandings upon me and making sense of what I believe to make sense of you.
I don't obey immoral laws set by man. I certainly won't obey immoral laws set by man that pretend to be divine. When demonstrably they're false.
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>>134207836

Implying would could actually measure with instruments a spirit.

I disagree with that definition because I don't agree that a spirit is merely a sensation. The spiritual exists on a higher plane of reality than the material and can be understood in some ways, and not in other ways.

The material is the lowest and imperfect form of reality. Any definition of spirit would have to take into account a higher plane of existence.
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>>134207482
>and you are at least not doing much to help
Because that wasn't my focus at the time. But if you want I can dump some of my musings onto you.
We know that the universe had to come into being somehow. Some claim that the universe just coming into being would be impossible since you cannot get something from nothing. Of course, their god is much the same way, so the question must be asked; what is more likely? For an all powerful, all knowing, supernatural, divine entity to be created in violation of numerous laws and principles of science and the known universe, only to create the universe sometime after? Or that the universe just came to in it's inorganic, dead state in violation of only one, maybe two, laws of physics?
>But God always existed.
Then that breaks our known principles of time, thus breaking more scientific laws, thus making such a creature's existence all the more unlikely.

What people call miracles are nothing more than a mixture of human drive, skill, and pure dumb luck combining together to avert some disaster. The fact that these happen with such infrequency, as is evidenced both by the many Christians murdered by Muslims, the numerous Jews being in control of everything, and nothing stopping the pagan tree from being cut down way back when, as well as the overall shit state of the western world and it's degeneracy, where even the most faithful of various religions seem to be suffering all the time, often picking up most of the burden from the degenerates, just to name a few things. The lack of supernatural miracles also points to this, as those shown as supernatural either have a reasonable explanation to them or are elaborate ruses.

Finally, while not necessarily an argument for the validity of Atheism, pic related is still a good quote that I like. Maybe it will help you.
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>>134209287
>It doesn't matter if it's true, it's ours and we should irrationally defend it no matter what

definition of a brainlet
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>>134193200
Which translates as: it limits freedom of thought and makes everyone easy to control.
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>>134209287

Christianity has ran its course. The only thing worth keeping from it is some of its key tenants.

Militant Christianity is essentially non-existent to any relevant degree. The true destroyer of western civilization is bleeding heart liberal Christianity. The kind that advocate open borders, globalism, third world immigration, etc

At least militant/violent Christianity served the purpose of keeping the third world hordes out of our nation states but at the same time left us vulnerable as well due to infighting.
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>>134209287
Every religion promises salvation while denying any other religion is valid though while also preaching that all peoples should follow their way. I'm not going to base my chances of making it to heaven over a silly thing like race.
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>>134206486
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>>134192987
my religion is right because it is right, because Christ was right about everything he said. you can't make up that kind of massive wisdom and truth if you're some scamming elrond hubbard from year zero.
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>>134208347
>God isn't someone else
God is every thing and nothing. God is happening and potential. So you're correct actually. Luke 17:21 For the kingdom of God is within you. By extension other things as well, since you only know yourself by the existence of other things to separate your ego from.

>>134208490
I don't treat people how I wouldn't want to be treated. The Golden rule exists in many systems, not just Christianity.
I believe that since we are all one in God. That to love God? I must love all of his creation. Or perhaps his expansion of experience?
Though I tend to follow my logic, but I temper that with emotion. Many atheists make the mistake of thinking emotion is pointless. With out it? You'd have no ability to feel meaning.
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>>134208985
Kys
Christianity is the way
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>>134204773
>I -I d-d-don't molest kids!
Alright christ cuck.
leave your mommy's basement pls
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>>134209500
Literally all christians have that mindset.
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>>134192987
Lurk moar
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>>134208985
I agree on the all three being desert cuck religions.
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>>134192987

My religion is right, because apparently the culture it created in turn created a much superior environment to live in.
That is, according to people from other environments, as exhibited by their migrations.
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>>134210054
hes right though, Christianity came from the heart of the lands /pol/ hates the most, not to mention he was a Jew.
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>>134210266
gotem
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>>134209500
>he doesn't venerate his ancestors
Definition of a cuck.

>>134209652
>Militant Christianity is essentially non-existent to any relevant degree. The true destroyer of western civilization is bleeding heart liberal Christianity. The kind that advocate open borders, globalism, third world immigration, etc
It's a bastardisation isn't it. It's not real Christianity.

Anyway, I'm not even an active Christian in any sense at all - I just appreciate Christianity as the religion that built my country. Same with your country. I would not exist if it wasn't for Christianity. It only takes a cursory glance at history to appreciate the vast importance of Christianity in building this civilisation we have. It inspired people to strive, to co-operate, to believe in hope during dark times, etc.

>>134209706
>I'm not going to base my chances of making it to heaven over a silly thing like race.
...you think you're more likely to go to heaven if you're not religious?

Anyway I don't necessarily believe in heaven. I just venerate Christianity as the religion of my ancestors.
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>>134209448
Your brain is an instrument that is used by you. You made a measurement as to what spirit is to you. So yes, with your own logic. You're able to make hypothesis based on your observations with an instrument.

I just find your idea that atheists can't be spiritual to be.. Un-educated. Zen Buddhists are pretty damn spiritual. One can be spiritual with out making a claim to know how to perfectly define a spirit.
Your ideas of higher and lower reality? I find those to be projection. Every piece is as important as the other, for you would not be able to experience this life or make these observations to come to a conclusion on your concept of spirit, if it were not for this reality being here and now.
The "higher" reality as you say would lack definition as with out the material realm? You would not exist to define it.
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I doubted god for along time, but he heared my prayers, my grandpa had a bad stroke for 6 hours untreated, doctors told us he could never walk or talk again, i prayed as strong as never before and a few days later he starts talking and walking again, doctors tell that this is literally the first time they saw something like this. Now he is perfectly fine like before.
Accept jesus before it's too late.

Deus vult.
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>>134210399
And then you kissed a guy right?
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Typical Christlarping Faggots

Good job furthering the idea that Christianity and the people who believe in it are fucking retarded.
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>Mrw you are a christian
>apparently we rape people and organize crusades.
>Oh wait thats the catholic cucks
Orthodox christianity wins again
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>>134210369
>...you think you're more likely to go to heaven if you're not religious?

I'm not currently religious because no religion has offered any concrete proof that they are the one true path to salvation.
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>>134210369
>Venerating ancestors means you have to genuinely believe things that are obviously not true

>>134210399
How do you rationalize God creating strokes and giving your grandpa a stroke in the first place and making him suffer horribly when he has the power to make sure it doesn't happen to anyone ever?
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>>134194545
That's America retard which only arose because of hygenic reasons (bullshit) not religious
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>>134192987
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>>134210620
If god didn't give that guy's Grandpa a stroke, we would have never seen his post.
Christians : 1
Atheist: 0
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>>134193580
Yea, if my own leaders let loose hoards of invading foreign tribes and I watched my civilization crumble, my sons get killed, and my daughters rapped to death then I wouldn't believe in a god either.
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>>134210732
I thought this meme was supposed to be ironic not true.
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>>134192987

>Atheism is morally correct because Richard Dawkins says so

Fuck off
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>>134209009
>Why not talk to me like I'm 5 years old?

Because I respect you enough to not treat you like a child by default, Reddit.

>Explain to me like I'm 5 years old why me being an atheist means I cannot...

Okay, but I'll first tell you that this isn't what I was arguing at all:

You said you were atheist and could defend that title of atheist using evidence and reason.

>The term 'atheist' means "not-theist".
>The term 'theism' means belief in a god or gods.
>The term "god" means a supernatural controlling being. However, this term is an umbrella term as these "supernatural controlling beings" aren't all the same sort of things in concept. Brahma, Zeus, and the classical God are all considered "gods" but are all very different things in concept.
>Thus theism itself is extremely varied.
>As there is no one way to define being "not-theist" as being theist is extremely varied in its kind of worldview, atheism isn't a view or path of any meaning whatsoever. All that there is is atheistic systems. And note that the denial of "supernatural controlling beings" isn't the same thing as the supernatural as a whole. Any manner of atheist besides Naturalist can believe in ghosts, for instance.

You said you could defend such a view using evidence and reason but what is there to defend when you don't have a worldview that means hardly anything specific at all? At best all you could do is try to argue away popular forms of theism or just straight up think you win via denial.

Then you mention having arguments as to how a "supernatural creator of the universe" isn't real so to defend yourself as atheist. But, since theism is extremely varied and that label of "creator of the universe" is only applicable to certain theistic views and not theism itself it doesn't hold that rejecting a branch of theistic views can defend not being theist at all.

You fail not because you can't use reason and evidence but because you have no idea what you're talking about.
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>>134209459

The problem with the universe creation from a non religious view is that the laws the universe follows existed before the universe too, just like God, my belief is that this entity exist outside our current understanding and grasp, including time and that God wrote the laws that allowed the universe to be made
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>>134210732
Russian friend has it right. Do keep in mind folks about the constant hints of infinity in nature.
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>>134209108
>saying this
Hey kiddo.
Catholicism.
You gonna mental gymnastics from that one too?
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>>134196032
>magic bullshit
Atheists are so cringeworthy. They have a distorted vision of God and project their delusions to everyone else
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>>134209652
militant Christianity is mostly a myth, the crusades were in many ways a retaliation to a actual militant religion: Islam.
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>>134210495
>worshipping a jew
>turn the other cheek open borders to semitic brothers we are one in christ accept semitic prophets holy book and god

LOL NOPE, CRUCIFIED BANNED BY ROME AND FED TO THE LIONS DESERT CULT
DEUS VULT YESHUA CULTISTS TO BE CRUCIFIED..
Race mix with smerindians spaniard man they have equal rights compromise your empire...

LOL NOPE FUXK YOU SACKED.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sack_of_Rome_(1527)
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>>134210177
>le literally all christians have the mindset of a strawman i made up in my head that's almost as retarded as i am but just slightly more retarded so i feel superior
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>>134209459
>pic
That's a false quote. The closest thing Marcus ever wrote to that is:

>"Now departure from the world of men is nothing to fear, if gods exist: because they would not involve you in any harm. If they do not exist, or if they have no care for humankind, then what is life to me in a world devoid of gods, or devoid of providence? But they do exist, and they do care for humankind: and they have put it absolutely in man's power to avoid falling into the true kinds of harm."
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>>134197106
>guys I have a picture of a brain cell
>picture of universe
>((((GOD))))
Holy fuck you christ cucks are cringeworthy.
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>>134210912
If multiverse is correct. Our universe is just an inevitability.
Ultimately I think human observation tricks us with what the idea of time is. We've already shown that time can be an altered perception.
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I'm out. This has gotten too silly in both respects.
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>>134198469
>retard who thinks being spiritually equal (dead in sin without christ) means racially equal
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>>134209901
I am not only talking about the golden rule aspect but also the other less obvious things that we have been able to confirm is a better choice with modern science, like that pigs are unclean, now we know that pork used to have trichinella and that it actually causes more cancer than the clean types of meat. You find many such examples of people having knowledge not possible for them to have, or rather they had knowledge on how to avoid problems that were impossible for us to know about until now.
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>>134210538
Like I said, you should venerate the religion of your ancestors, doesn't mean you have to believe in it, just venerate it

>>134210620
>he's too much of a cuck to venerate the religion of his ancestors
Your bloodline is weak, you are a weak and pathetic person
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>>134210876
>I'll explain this to him like he's 5 years old by making a post filled with the same stilted speech word salad obfuscating horse shit that's clearly meant to be as confusing as possible, BUT THIS TIME I'll make it 3x as long

Lmao.

>>134211305
>n-now I'm leaving

If you noticed, I never vacated the thread, I just can't make a serious reply to your smug, pseudointellectual "I just started reading CS Lewis" posts.
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>>134211418
Why should I venerate the religion of my ancestors?
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>>134211418
>being this autistic
Proof that Catholicism causes brain cancer.
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>>134211188
>That's a false quote.
Even if it is, it is still a good one.
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>>134193200
>He needs religion to give him a moral compass

Brainlet detected
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>>134192987
Why wont you believe the tiny brown desert Jew who died for your sins.
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>>134211299
If multiverse is correct then we have a new situation, yes, so far its about as probable as the theory I subscribe to, add the fact that people who dedicate themselves to science often come to the same conclusion over time I think its worth its salt
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>>134211139
All Christians worship a religion started by Jews, with Jewish prophets, Jewish holy books, abd Jewish God, not my religion.

Christianity needs to be banned thank God for the rise of marxism that we cannexterminate this desert cult.
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>>134211112
>turn the other cheek open borders to semitic brothers we are one in christ accept semitic prophets holy book and god
We saw the truth the filthy jews did not.
They still think god is looking for their benefit alone.
>Crucified, banned by rome.. blah blah
and what did that do annon? exactly, jack and shit. Instead some of the people became martyrs and thus helped spread the religion
Orthodox christianity is the only christianity that matters anon
>catholics are run by a power hungry cuck
>protestantism is just people mad they were cucked by the pope
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>>134210876
Everyone knows what atheist mean in a region thread retard. It can be reasonably assumed that they don't believe in a man in the sky, specifically your man in the sky, these are assumptions that can be made based on the term athiest, it doesn't fucking matter if they believe in ghosts or other supernatural shit or not, what matters is the topic which you seemed to have completely thrown out and replaced with your pedantic bullshit.
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Here just in case: St. Michael the Archangel,
defend us in battle.
Be our defense against the wickedness and snares of the Devil.
May God rebuke him, we humbly pray,
and do thou,
O Prince of the heavenly hosts,
by the power of God,
thrust into hell Satan,
and all the evil spirits,
who prowl about the world
seeking the ruin of souls. Amen..
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>>134211529
Because without it you wouldn't exist

>>134211533
>he thinks i'm a cathocuck
T O P
L E L
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>>134212028
ROME OPPOSES KIKESTRIANITY, CAESAR WOULD HAVE CRUCIFIED ALL OF JUDAEA.
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>>134211393
Yes and people can have visions of the future and touch an object and get flashes of what happened to it or whom it belongs to.
There is a lot of freaky shit that is near impossible to study.
Far as the pig deal? Likely because so many mother fuckers got sick as hell eating pork.
I think our ancestors were far more intelligent than most modern humans give them credit for.
They actually had to observe and reason to survive. Nowadays? People can look up on the internet and find "science" that supports any opinion they have and never bother to actually think or research themselves.
As you may have guessed when I mentioned Luke 17:21. I do find value in these holy books, I just think it is extremely dangerous to set moral systems by their commandments and could keep mankind from making a huge leap forward socially. However, if this were to happen. Christians share the least amount of blame since you all eventually gave on science.
It will be Islam, Hinduism, Faith of the State. That will set us back years socially.
We've lost engineering techniques and medicinal techniques to history.
Why yes, we have progressed in most fields recently. I find it a huge mistake for people to think that time proceeding is always progress and thinking that they know more than their ancestors.
Just different fields of knowledge. Why we know more about how the universe works than our ancestors. Drop an average person from today in an ancient forest? Chances are they will eat a poison mushroom and not know how to disinfect wounds.
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>>134200835
>>134200865
>Walls of text

But you didn't even answer the questions from your greentext, you just talked in circles.
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>>134212205
We wouldn't exist without a lot of things happening in the past, should I just blanket venerate the past?
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Luciferian are lurking everywhere be warned look for signs the mostly used are the 3 nails used to Crusify Jesus Christ 6 6 6
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>>134212379
You should venerate the culture of your ancestors and that includes religion and many other things

Obviously don't venerate the bad things, venerate the good and positive things
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>>134211299
If there's infinitely many universes, there's at least one where someone has figured out how to influence other universes. Influencing other universes is the essence of "supernatural" so you could argue that it proves the existence of the supernatural, and you could even call it a god if it had sufficient qualities. And out of the infinite universes where such an influence on other universes exists, there's gonna be one that has nigh-omnipotence that could be construed as "God."

The multiverse theory opens a massive can of worms. There's at least one universe in which each religion to have ever existed is true.
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>>134212482
But both of us probably wouldn't exist if some of those bad things didn't happen...
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>>134193333
good one, you skinny fucking pussy
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>>134211779
Sure, I have no way to prove this and this is just guesswork. Would multiverse not account for the illusion of free will as well?
For every decision you think you make, the other decision was made and now that verse is happening. Exponential expansion of experience.

Perhaps that is why the God of the bible declares, Go forth and be fruitful!

However a lot of the other stuff makes zero sense to me. I have a huge hang up about drugs being bad and LGBT being bad.
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Here a example look at the time on the 3 clock it's subtle but it's everywhere... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CxnaPa8ohmM
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>>134212235
>Rome
You meant the empire christianity literally took over? Kek
No, but seriously, orthodox christianity is the best one.
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>>134212644
Only venerate the things that made a positive contribution to you and your people. And be mindful and wary of the things that harmed you and your people. In fact in some cases you should vow to destroy such things.
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>>134212482
>worshipping desert cult enemy of your race
Only my race is true everuthing else must serve my race my God serves my race, my God is not yeshua or elohim.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=36NqK0kfcvg
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>>134211712
But if everyone had the same (((good))) moral compass, there would be harmony on earth. If you look at some criminal statistics, yes, some people obviously need a moral compass.
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>>134192987
lmao blaming atheists for refugee crisis when one of the biggest defenders for muslim immigrants is a christian bitch called angela merkel

>christians literal trash and responsible for downfall of europe
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>>134195058
This (((american))) is right
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>>134210876
Beautiful :)
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>>134192987
I use to think this way OP

Recently I am beginning to understand why my parents taught me our religion though. Don't forget to ask why OP.
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>>134212602
I refer to my earlier posts saying that God is every thing.
If God is the soil, the air, the space in between, the mind, the body, the energy of potentials? Then omni-presence and omniscience can be explained scientifically.
Also, in the multiverse there would be universes that are just unalterable. Universes that would appear to unalterable until the unthinkable happens. Universes where God is killed, Universes where God lives right next door.
Universes where no sapient life exists but is waiting for that one to bust in from another universe to claim its existence.

>There's at least one universe in which each religion to have ever existed is true.
Equally neat and nightmarish innit?
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>>134213062
>Blaming fucking germany, when turkey scum is letting them cross the borders to fuck with greeks
Focus on the ones at fault annon.
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>>134212820
But some of those bad things did make a positive contribution to my peoples history, the black plague helped kickstart the Renaissance. WW1 killed or declawed all the dumbass royalty, WW2 gave my country a massive economic boost. These are just a few example. Hardship builds character after all.
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>>134213173
With that logic there's at least one universe where each one of us has been god.
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>>134212695
LGBT makes perfect sense once you realize the increased risk gay people have related to STD's and the fact your bloodline dies with you if you only have same sex interests.

There are also many statistics that show gay people being at a higher risk for various mental problems etc too, all in all it seems to be worse than straight in terms of having a happy and healthy life, statistically speaking.

I would still not consider it any worse than any other sin if you the individual happen to be gay

the Christian perspective is that we had perfection and lost it due to the corruption that is sin, when you have perfection any scratch will completely ruin it, its no longer perfect. With this perspective it is obvious that discussing small and big scratches is pointless and not what was intended for us to do.

I'm sure God love the gays as much as any other human/sinner
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>>134193374
Bump
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>>134210732
(((Mushrooms)))
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>>134211211
>he doesnt get it was just one example of the as above so below stuff
and you still think you arent the retard
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>>134213432
I'd say we all already are God. We create our own subjective realities, we're unaware of why we have the thoughts we do. The likes we have, we create our own meaning. Yet even that is an illusion that you are the one doing it.
Most people never choose to be how smart or dumb they are. Most people never choose to like bondage porn or find they enjoy shooting heroin.
The self seems to be an illusion, some what akin to cells in our body.
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>>134213885
>I'd say we all already are God
that is the idea the satanic globalists having been setting up the world to accept, its coming soon, if you want truth then avoid their lies. The UN even have that written down as one of their goals and its been there since its creation, a creation that happened because the previous attempt, league of nations, failed.
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>>134210295
oh damn I got btfo cause Jesus was a Jew and came from the desert! better embrace paganism now! what an absurd and immature "argument".
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>>134213537
>LGBT makes perfect sense once you realize the increased risk gay people have related to STD's and the fact your bloodline dies with you if you only have same sex interests.
Only if it is engaged in unsafely. Im an ex-pimp. A lot of these hoes were hetero and full of disease.
Far as the genetics dying? That isn't an end to a legacy, for the lessons taught by an individual live on. After all, you're using a computer that was made possible by the ground work of Gay man Alan Turing, his legacy lived on.

>There are also many statistics that show gay people being at a higher risk for various mental problems etc too, all in all it seems to be worse than straight in terms of having a happy and healthy life, statistically speaking.
Also much higher rates of being booted out of homes as kids. There are lots of variables to this problem and would assume if you had to deal with a lot of the same stuff? You might not be super stable either.

>I would still not consider it any worse than any other sin if you the individual happen to be gay
As long as you're aware that you're a brother or sister in sin. Logically? I'd have zero problem with Christians stating it is wrong, however I feel they must also realize that they as well are sinners and treat their gay brothers or sisters how they themselves would wish to be treated. It is Gods deal to sort them out.
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>>134212902
Are you white? If you are then Christianity was the religion of your ancestors

>>134213425
Yes but you can't venerate the things that harm your people. Instead venerate your people for being strong enough to overcome them. And the things that helped them to do this, such as Christianity.
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>>134210620
Because humans are getting old, its natural, god doesn't interfere with nature, he just does wonders sometimes. Not often, but sometimes.

Also if he wouldn't get a stroke the doctors wouldnt have found an aneurysm he had in his spine, he had extreme pain for months and was getting grumpy because of it, now he has lost that too.
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>>134213885
check out this video if you want to learn more about the UN and its occult agenda: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SU3dUCwW3Q
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>>134210295
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>>134214158
Im an Anarchist and totally against the state. Yet its the conclusion I've come to. The more you zoom out, the more it all appears to be one thing.

The more you zoom in, the more you find it is reliant upon other systems to exist. If we just let nature be and then balanced it with science? Shit, Earth would be paradise.

Been a pleasure debating though, this tranny philosopher must go to lunch with the husband.
Was actually nice to see a reasonable Christian. Remember brother, more people like us and we can defeat the extremists on all sides and be reasonable loving humans.
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>>134214268
A legacy and genetics are very different things. You can have both.
As far as the variables go, history repeats itself, go research the weimar republic for example, and take into account the fact that trannies kill themselves more now when the world have finally accepted them than they did in the past. I think that this corruption makes people unhappy, same with drug use, the people who are fine doing it are no better off than the people who stay away from it but the people who are not fine get way more problems than those who stay away, it makes no sense to encourage something that potentially leads to personal ruination.
And one of the things I dislike the most are self righteous christians like the ones you mentioned, they are not following the bible or doing what Jesus did, he had no problems talking to whores and sinners
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>>134209617
actually Christianity protects freedom of thought, hence why the founders of the freest country in the world based our laws on the radical idea that all men are equal before God. God- not government- and yes if you are a moral relativist which I assume that's what you actually mean by "freedom of thought", then you are infinitely more controllable than someone who has a principled view of the world that isn't based on the days latest trends and "muh feels".
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>>134210964
nigger idgad about Catholicism
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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