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ISLAM GENERAL >لَا إِلٰهَ إِلَّا ٱلله

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ISLAM GENERAL

>لَا إِلٰهَ إِلَّا ٱلله مُحَمَّدٌ رَسُولُ ٱلله
>lā ʾilāha ʾillā llāh muḥammadun rasūlu llāh
>There is no god but God. Muhammad is the messenger of God.

>بِسْمِ اللهِ الرَّحْمٰنِ الرَّحِيْمِ
>b-ismi-llāhi r-raḥmāni r-raḥīmi
>In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful

ITT We discuss all things Islam including history, theology, sharia law, culture, traditions, the Qur'an, etc.

Brothers and sisters, let's help /pol/ realize the great power and might and mercy of Allah (subhanahu wa-ta'ala), and the truth of his prophet, Muhammad (alayhi as-salām).

For more information on conversion to Islam:

http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/204/how-to-convert-to-islam-and-become-muslim/

http://www.chatislamonline.org/en/convert-to-islam.html

On prophet Isa/Jesus (PBUH)

http://www.chatislamonline.org/en/jesus-and-christianity.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_Islam

Praise be to Allah, and peace be upon all his messengers.

Verse of the day:

The Roman Empire has been defeated-
[Surah Rum(Rome/Romans/Byzantiums) 30:1]
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>>134192915
yel3an rabbak
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Might convert desu
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>>134192915
Salam Alaikum fellow goat lovers, there is one thing I'd like to be clear one, should you have sex with your personal livestock before or after the prayers? Which is haram and which is halal, only serious answers
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>>134194113
Be respectful please
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>>134194045
What's stopping you?
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How much are camel whores in your country?
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>>134192915
why are you guys all rapists and criminals in our country? why are you not able to work and be positive individuals to society?

your god must be the devil, your behaviour proves it!
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>>134194113
>Britbong
>Wants to fuck goats

Not suprised.
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>>134194248
Need to read the Quran first and all that, maybe I'll start today
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>>134194248
>>134192915
Lets discuss the rape, beheading, ignorance and being a useless shit in general.
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>>134192915
Not politics, report this
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>>134194417
Fuck off Shekelstein
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>>134192915
Why do some of you try to distance yourself from Salafis/Takfiris (or "Wahhabis") in front of non-Muslims, when they are the most pious Sunni Muslims? Are you ashamed of the Salaf?

Why do you criticize Shi'ites for Mut'ah when Sunnis practice Misyar which is essentially the same thing?
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>>134194521
I prefer shekalim as a last name.
And no.
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>>134194314
Why ask the questions when you are so confident on the answers you have?

"And indeed, every time I invited them that You may forgive them, they put their fingers in their ears, covered themselves with their garments, persisted, and were arrogant with [great] arrogance"

[Surah Nuh (Noah) 71:7]
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>>134194417
Rape is strictly forbidden and punishable with 100 lashes with 1 year in jail or Stoning to death.

Now fuck off back to sucking off mutilated bloody boy cocks
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>>134194614
answer me anyway, come on
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>>134192915
Mohammed was a Djinn and Allah is the devil.

Debate me.
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>>134194598
God bless Israel!
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>>134194333
You should be taking helicopter lessons for obvious reasons not thinking about joining pedo religion, what terrible happen to your livestock that you want to give them so much love through islam and muhammad (pbuh)
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>>134194248
Can't own goats in my neighborhood ;_;
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Islam is Mormonism.
If you are tempted by one, may as well go for the other.
Muhammad is an obvious fraud who didn't even know the story of the seven sleepers.
The cult he established is a farcical and hypocritical one.

The only reason someone would convert to Islam is to fuck your women, besides that your culture is utterly vacuous.
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>>134194588
I condemn both Misyar and Mutah.

Takfiris aren't the most pious Muslims because they practice Takfir as a part of faith and Takfir is one of the major sins. Other than that I don't do it to please Cumskins I generally dislike sectarian Muslims be they Salafis or Shi'as.

Also, How can a Muslim be ashamed of the Salaf? The Salaf are the Sahabah, Tabein and Tabe Tabein.
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>>134194737
>Forbidden
>Having a slang for group rape
Noice.
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>Islam General
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>>134194944
still waiting for your answer: why is the majority in our prisons muslims, why do they rape, steal and kill in such heavy numbers? whats wrong with you guys?!
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>>134194203
>>134194248
>>134193362
I love bacon guys.
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>>134194737
I don't think you've read the Qur'an friendo it's a disgusting blight upon the Earth and every criticism of Islam is justified as not only is it in your scripture but it is also in your cultures.
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>>134194763
Because most third world countries apply westernized laws to a society accustomed to Sharia or other local legal systems.

In the west they mostly come from a far more conservative and strict society they see that white womyn are willing to fuck anything that moves so they fuck them and they rape them.
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>>134194819
Good goy
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>>134194944

WHY do u guys love تحرش جماعي so much?!?!

Srsly WHATS WRONG WITH U GUYS???
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>>134194944
>Takfir
Your language is a sin, disgusting Shitslamics with your barbaric words. You dare insult the precious white angels of God. A white God, not a smelly brown desert Demon like Allah!

You will burn in hell for eternity for following that demon, that ugly, stinky demon! You are followers of Beezlebub, the lord of the flies, which make sense because you're all a steaming pile of shit!
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>>134195112
Mmm
Bacon cheeseburgers
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>>134195146
I would fuck Muhammad in his ass just for fun and baconz.
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>>134195120
I've read the Quran multiple times and in three different languages so please go die in your miserable lonely basement
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>>134195146
you muslims are no more than animals with animals instinct
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The Koran confuses Miriam sister of Moses with Mary the mother of Jesus, it literally thinks Moses is the uncle of Jesus. Written by a retarded illiterate goatrapist.
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>>134192915
>OP)
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>>134195278
>God is a human
>God has a race
Exactly what I expected from a low IQ third world Faggot
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<< THATS ISLAM and what it stands for
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thats the true islam
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>>134195441
I think you are an authority on islam and can provide sources?
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>>134195318
So you admit you're committing taqiya and pretending it doesn't have verses that justify rape?
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islam, welcome! animals...
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>>134195524
How?
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This is the true islam
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how do you not see that you follow satan?
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Lets all convert and become animals
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>>134195514
Haha, this is so commonplace anymore.
Is this b8 for a gore thread?
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>>134195357
Any evidence of this claim?
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>>134195318
Can you translate this pages gor me please? I don't speak pedophilian.
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muslims ... nobody can stand them, even god hates them
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>>134195411
Aww my little baby shitskin mohammed goat raper. Pisslam is only 1400 years old, it's a little baby! It's new and I get it, it's edgy demon and occult death to infidels crap, I get it. Much like the Sante Muerte in Mexico feel powerful and edgy because of Saint Death being scary and all that. But my little shitskin ball of scum, your God and your religion is just demon following and I wouldn't sleep well at night if I didn't warn you of your demon ways and try my best to stop you from burning in hell.

But if you want to burn with Allah and Mohammed in the pits of hell then by all means my darling you fucking burn and get raped by pigs that have razor blade dicks. Have fun burning you Takfiri Ackbar head.
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you paathans are smelly and same with your pakistani brothers
get out of my country
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>>134192915

בָּרוּךְ אַתָּה ה' אֱ-לֹהֵינוּ, מֶלֶךְ הָעוֹלָם. פּוֹקֵחַ עִוְרִים.
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<< the real deal muslims are all pedophile, killing innocents and acting like animals
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>>134195577
Quran

Quran (2:282)- Establishes that a woman's testimony is worth only half that of a man's in court (there is no "he said/she said" gridlock in Islam).

Quran (24:4)-"And those who accuse free women then do not bring four witnesses, flog them..."Strictly speaking, this verse addresses adultery (revealed at the very time that Muhammad's favorite wife was being accused of adultery on the basis of only three witnesses coincidentally enough). However it is a part of the theological underpinning of the Sharia rule on rape, since strict Islamic law does not recognize rape if there are not four male witnesses or a confession.

Quran (24:13)-"Why did they not bring four witnesses of it? But as they have not brought witnesses they are liars before Allah."

Quran (2:223)-"Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will..." There is no such thing as rape in marriage, as a man is permitted unrestricted sexual access to his wives.

Hadith and Sira

Sahih Bukhari (5:59:462)- The background for the Quranic requirement of four witnesses to adultery. Muhammad's favorite wife, Aisha, was accused of cheating [on her polygamous husband]. Three witnesses corroborated the event, but Muhammad apparently did not want to believe it, and so established the arbitrary rule that four witnesses are required.
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>>134192915
Death to Islam and all Muslims. No exceptions.
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>>134195876
AMEN!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G30h7koGSXk
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تحرش جماعي
the most beloved game in all muslim countries
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>>134192915
OP does it really say in your holy book that you are allowed to lie non-believers? Or that you can actually kill them if they do not convert or believe in other entities? How can that be leading to enlightenment or help society develop?
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>>134195577
Also (forbidden are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess. Thus has Allah ordained for you. All others are lawful, provided you seek them from your property, desiring chastity, not fornication. So with those among them whom you have enjoyed, give them their required due, but if you agree mutually after the requirement (has been determined), there is no sin on you. Surely, Allah is Ever All-Knowing, All-Wise
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Reminder:
Islam is an ideology, not a religion.
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>>134195577
Abu Sa'id al-Khudri reported that at the Battle of Hunain Allah's Messenger sent an army to Autas and encountered the enemy and fought with them. Having overcome them and taken them captives, the Companions of Allah's Messenger seemed to refrain from having intercourse with captive women because of their husbands being polytheists. Then Allah, Most High, sent down regarding that:" And women already married, except those whom your right hands possess (Quran 4:. 24)" (i. e. they were lawful for them when their 'Idda period came to an
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>>134192915

How can we convince Westernized Muslims (or foreign Muslims) to side with us?
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>>134194113
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>>134195660
>>134195778
>>134195843
>>134195876
Guys, do you know why is this guy wiping his ass with bullshit?
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>>134195577
It was narrated that Salamah bin Al-Muhabbaq said: "The Prophet passed judgment concerning a man who had intercourse with his wife's slave woman: 'If he forced her, then she is free, and he has to give her mistress a similar slave as a replacement; if she obeyed him in that, then she belongs to him, and he has to give her mistress a similar slave as a replacement.'"
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why is a "muslim" baiting /pol/ in this thread?
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>>134196223
i love your country! you guys dont accept islam as an official religion
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>>134192915
Praise Allah! Westerners would benefit greatly from understanding His power!

Conversely, Muslims would benefit greatly from understanding the power of Jesus! They would not be driven to committing violent antisocial acts in God's name! One God three persons! Awesome Oscillations!
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Can I pressure my HOA to allow pet goats for sexual emergencies?
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>>134196223
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>>134196403
Go praise your Allah or whatever somewhere else. Preferably to Pakistan or something.
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>>134192915
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>>134196403
That was pretty cool.

One of these days they'll come around.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRVSSwJYqh0
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>>134196223
Muslims are demons, it's in the bible.

>Armies of the East, followers of Satan will rise
>Armies of the West, followers of Christ will destroy them
It is known, it is our destiny to eradicate Islam, they know they are demons that will die and burn in hell, they are promised paradise and 72 virgins (only 72 that have to last a life time LOL) and a river of wine? Where's the cocaine? Where's the amphetamines? Fuck that shit, is that all your demon allah is offering you?

HAHAHAHAHAHA!
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>>134192915
Jesus spoke: "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves."

Matthew 7:15

Your move Mohammedan.
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>>134194113
hallla

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-FPimCmbX8
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>>134196060
The prophet said "He who does not over his Amir(Leader) his death will be like those who died before Islam" (Sahih Bukhari) so his prohibits murder.

Lieing is prohibited.

The whole Taqiyya thing can be explain by reading it's origin.

When Islam was only 4 years old and the Muslims were being tortured and killed in Mecca, There was an ex slave couple Ammar and Sumayya. They had no tribe and low social standing so the pre islamic society was harsh to them.

Abu Jahl (Father of Ignorance, Muhammad's main opponent at the time) had them tied on burning sand and starved the from food and water for three days. When Ammar died of Exhaustion he stabbed his wife with a spear and killed her. These were getting first Martyrs of Islam. There son, Yasser, was tortured for much longer. In the end he was forced to renounce Islam and insult the Prophet when Abu Jahl started cutting him with a flaming hot knife. After Abu Jahl let him go, Abu Bakr (Aisha's father and Muhammad's childhood friend who would stick around the place where the slaves and ex slave Muslims were tortured to buy there freedom took Yasser to Muhammad. He begged Muhammad who told him that under such severe torture his words weren't his but were Abu Jahl's to answer for. After this slaves and ex slaves who feared for their lies lied about heir faith.

Shi'as took it one step further when the Ummayads would arrest or kill supporters of the Imams the Shi'as lied about their hatred for the Caliphate and pretended to be loyal subjects.
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>>134196061
The verse prohibits Fornication doesn't it?
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>>134196841
this sums up the muslim problem 100%
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>>134196861
shut up and die in your shithole country. you even got no toiletpaper. we use quran for this.
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>>134196616
Buncha bitch pussies afraid of a little death.
CULTURAL ENRICHMENT IZGUD4U
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>>134195876
Go whine about mysogynist Islam on Tumblr

Also Muhammad said "Do not descend upon your wife like an animal" (Sahih Bukhari)

So I think that makes marital rape a sin but not an illegal act unless the wife is wounded in the act. Then she can get a divorce for Tashadud (Cruelty) and demand Qisas (retribution) or Diyat (Blood Money)
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>>134196126
So now /pol/ Hates slavery.

Also, you need the slaves' consent the first time you have intercourse. Then the slave us your sex slave. If she doesn't consent the first time then she is a work slave.
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>>134197048
>Do not descend upon your wife like an animal
Except when your wife is a goat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPqFrR-yTFk

Or a donkey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q93qgYqHec4
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FUCK ISLAM, "MODERATE MUSLIMS" AREN'T EVEN REAL MUSLIMS, THE ONES IN ISIS THAT ARE BEHEADING PEOPLE ARE WHAT ISLAM REALLY IS!
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>>134197048
Is this why the nigger cop killed the pregnant white woman in Minneapolis after she reported sexual assault?
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>>134197163
stop trying to be a tryhard paathan
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Islam is so screwed up, it makes Scientology look normal...
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>>134197048
You are demons that eat human flesh and drink human blood

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Ullais

After three days of beheading, when he saw the blood was congealing on the soil instead of flowing, on the advice of Qa'qa ibn Amr, one of the commanders of the Muslim army, Khalid ordered the dam on the river to be opened, and the water then flowed in and moved mills, then they made bread with that which fed his troops of 18000 for three days, thus fulfilling his earlier oath about running the river with blood. The river Khaseef as a result became known as the "River of Blood".[17][18]

You feasted on the blood of humans, therefore you burn in hell. Islam is the devils religion!
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>>134192915
I would unironically back a 21st-century crusade.
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>>134192915
Will you go to Heaven when you die? Here’s a quick test: Have you ever lied, stolen, or used God’s name in vain? Jesus said,
“Whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.”
If you have done these things, God sees you as a lying, thieving, blasphemous, adulterer at heart,
and the Bible warns that one day God will punish you in a terrible place called Hell.
But God is not willing that any should perish. Sinners broke God’s Law and Jesus paid their fine.
This means that God can legally dismiss their case:
“For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son,
that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.”
Then Jesus rose from the dead, defeating death. Today, repent and trust Jesus, and God will give you eternal life as a free gift.
Then read the Bible daily and obey it. God will never fail you.
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>>134192915
why do you worship a mass-murderer, torturer, slaver and pedophile?

do you consider a man who did those things to be holy?

how can yu prove that mohammed was a prophet? I mena, apart from it being in a book
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>>134196751
And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

John 14:16

Your move, nasrani
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>>134197509
thats the holy spirit an pentecost, you shitskin
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>>134196948
We are disgusting Cumskins who have no regard for Literature or Hygiene.

Water is the only way to clean your ass.
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>>134197257
I'm not a Pathan, Takfeeri
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>>134197615
>Water is the only way to clean your ass.
You arabs are dirty fuckers, with good reason, your lands are harsh and dry, very little water. So you cut your foreskins off, you don't wipe your arses (like the Indians) and you dare insult white precious angels of God? The clean and holy before you?

Your skin is the same colour as shit, your stench is that of curry powder and shit and your religion is that of shit.

Fire is the only way to cleanse Islam. Burn the corpses!
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>>134197330
So I can rape kill and steal all I want but if I accept Jesus before dying I'll be saved?
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>>134197825
and piss on the ashes
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>>134197876
If you're crushed by your own guilt and truly repentant, sure.

But if you're lying in hopes of getting into heaven and your heart isn't heavy with true guilt and contrition?

No heaven for you!

>>134197913
Amen!
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>>134197479
Worshipping Muhammad is a sin.

No.

Yes, but you will have to tell me which sources you accept as credible on the facts about his life.
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>>134197876
looks like its you basic need in islam:
steal, rape and kill

no jesus wont listen to bigots and liars
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>>134197596
>>134197596
If it was indeed the Holy Spirit then why did Jesus say ANOTHER?
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>>134197876
No, that would be presumption. It's not just a matter of accepting Jesus, He offers the forgiveness of sins to the contrite. No other has this authority.
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>>134197913
Oh and did you know that the removal of the foreskin is actually a tribute to one of the seven princes of hell?

It is done as a blood/flesh sacrifice, God does not order the removal of any flesh or need any sacrifice in such a way, doing so implies his image of man is imperfect.

It dates back to the times of Ba'al Berith, (hence the name for circumcision being Berit Milah), Ba'al Berith translates into "Beezlebub". And you know who that is, one of Satan's followers in the war in heaven that became a prince of hell.

He used to be worshiped by Jews until Christians put an end to it because it was all very sick and disturbing.

>>134198022
>Worshipping Muhammad is a sin.
Yes it is, he's a false prophet.
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>>134198099
Stay in the Gospel of John and pray for understanding. Then read Acts where the Spirit is sent.
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>>134197509
The word "Comforter" is ambiguous, but it most likely refers to the holy spirit which dwells in all living persons. Where does Jesus say that another prophet will come after him to complete God's revelation to man?

Also, since you quote John 14:
"Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me."

Checkmate, gg; no re
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>>134197825
We wipe our asses with toilet paper and water here, (We have douches by our toilets to wash our ass)
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>>134198099
HE himself is sending the comforter, it comes directly from God to his people. not a prophet or anything else.
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>>134198022
wow, a dodge, what a surprise

if you think some works about him are credible, prove it
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>>134198641
Well you're in the UAE, you can actually afford toilet paper. Unlike Pakistan..
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>>134198165
So what does Jesus offer in return to the people who were wronged by the contrite sinners? If someone tortured and killed an innocent person but then he repented and Jesus forgave him, what about the person he killed? How will Jesus give him justice?
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>>134198839
Yeah I feel you, Pakistanis get deported a lot here, same with Indians, Emiratis don't really like em
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>>134192915
Prohibited to you (For marriage) are:- Your mothers, daughters, sisters; father's sisters, Mother's sisters; brother's daughters, sister's daughters; foster-mothers (Who gave you suck), foster-sisters; your wives' mothers; your step-daughters under your guardianship, born of your wives to whom ye have gone in,- no prohibition if ye have not gone in;- (Those who have been) wives of your sons proceeding from your loins; and two sisters in wedlock at one and the same time, except for what is past; for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful;-
>>so yeah go fuck your cousin
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>>134198971
The punishment comes from the harrowing feeling and genuine contrition, that serves as your deterrent to change your ways. That feeling of guilt and internal pain at the realisation you have done wrong is your punishment.

If you are not truly sorry then you will not be forgiven, you can't just fake that shit. Catholics try to fake it, they abuse kids, pretend to be contrite then abuse kids in a different way after saying 10 haily marys. Doesn't work like that.

>>134198992
I know they are dirty fuckers.
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>>134198261
Well, there's my evidence. You made a statement and declared yourself winner without waiting for a reply.
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>>134199233
When I visited my friend in the immigration office here, the whole room smelled fucking nasty from the amount of Pakistanis I saw, infact one of the people sitting by the windows had to close from how much stupid she had to encounter
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>>134192915
Mohammed was a literal pedophile who molested and raped a 9 year old. I don't care what universe you live in, that's an abomination. That's a sick perversion.

If you don't know the story of Mohammed, this is what happened: one time when he was out traveling, Mohammed stopped by and rested in a cave. While he was inside the cave, an "angel from heaven" named Gabriel (how convenient to name him after one of the few angels in the Bible that's actually named) flew in, grabbed him by the throat and spit in his face, "TEACH THIS UNTO THE MASSES AND DO IT NOW!!!"

Mohammed got scared and started doing it. Throughout the rest of his life, Mohammed kept being visited by the "angel" who told him to do various things, for example, raid the trade caravans that went to Mecca and murder the travelers along the road. Mohammed had previously been banished from Mecca for trying to start a violent cult.

After Mohammed gained a large following, he taught a handful of people about his visions, and told them to write it down, which they did. After Mohammed died, they all started fighting about who should compile the "collected Quran" into a single book. They eventually created a version of the Quran, but kept on fighting, and eventually someone named Uthman (who never knew Mohammed) burned all surviving copies of the Quran and wrote a new one -- that all Muslims use today.

Meanwhile the Bible teaches that NO OTHER GOSPEL, not even if it is preached by an "ANGEL FROM HEAVEN" is true.

It's generally understood that Mohammed met Satan in the cave, or he just made the whole thing up.
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How can any sane person follow a man like Muhammad who:
(1) let young boys watch him clean his private parts (Bukhari 1:4:152)?
(2) sucked the tongue of a boy (Musnad Ahmad 16245)?
(3) dressed up in little girl's clothes and women's clothes (Bukhari 2442)?
(4) slept with or had sex with a dead female body in a coffin or grave (Kanz al Ummal 34424)?
(5) was a pedophile (Bukhari: 5:58:234, 236; 7:62:64, 65, 88)?
(6) said to consume house flies (Bukhari: Vol. 4, Bk. 54, No. 537)?
(7) commanded to drink camel urine (Bukhari: Vol. 8, Bk. 82, No. 79)?
(8) admitted to having a devil (Muslim: Ch.14, Bk. 39, No. 6759)?
(9) confessed to being demon possessed (Ishaq: 106)?
(10) told false revelations (Tabari VI: 107, 110; Ishaq: 166)?
(11) encouraged adherents to lie and break oaths (Ishaq: 365; Tabari VII: 94; cf. Ishaq: 519; Bukhari: Vol. 7, Bk. 67, No. 427)?
(12) or sex with animals (Abu Dawud 38:4450)?
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>>134198793
What I'm asking is that would the Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim (most authentic sources on Muhammad that use a chain of narrators that lists each person's name and the compilers analyse each narrator's life and see if they overlap) as an authority on Muhammad?
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>>134198971
It's not for us to decide since He alone is Judge. But He says each will reap as they have sown. Yet, 'a man's enemies will become members of his own family'. If you want a preview, see Matthew chapter 25.
The part tiled 'the Judgement of Nations'.
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>>134199439
explain why I should believe them. explain why a chain of narroators is reliable, can not be made up or mistaken, or the original source lying/mistaken

how were you convinced that mo was a prophet?
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>>134198971
>>134199233
To add.

>So what does Jesus offer in return to the people who were wronged by the contrite sinners?
Their souls are not tainted by the need for vengeance, wrath (a consuming sin), pride, resentment. All things that taint and corrupt the soul, things that turned Satan into the dweller. Rather than moving on Satan curses God and the perceived ill treatment, the injustice when it isn't Satan's place or anyone but Gods place to dispense justice.

>>134199337
They stink of curry powder, they stink our buses up. It's horrible, and the UAE has intense heat I can't image the stench!
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>>134198971

Jesus offers eternal life to the righteous and death to the unrepentant sinners. This will occur on judgement day (Yawm ad-Din).
A victim's satisfaction is borne from the fact that no matter what has happened to them or how they were wronged in life by others, God has the final say, and no one can escape from His judgement.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlr90NLDp-0
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>>134199654
It makes you want to just off yourself, on average the weather here is 105 F, but its better in the winter time though
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>>134192915
Got a couple of questions. Are you ok with your religion allowing sexual slavery (ما تملك ايمانكم) or following mohammad who married a 9 year old?
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Religion of Peace goy.
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>>134199653
The Quran is a bit interesting in the way it was recorded, because Mohammed had a handful of "disciples" that he taught about his visions. When he died, some of them wrote Mohammed's teachings down (since Mohammed could not read nor write himself) and some kept them remembered in their minds. After some infighting after Mohammed's death, they started collaborating on a compiled Quran with all of Mohammed's teachings. When this compilation was completed, someone named Uthman (who had never met or spoken to Mohammed) came and said that the current Quran was incorrect, then he ordered every copy of the "incorrect" Quran to be burned, then he wrote his own "correct" version. Then some people tried to restore the old version that was "approved" by Mohammed's disciples, and while doing so, they supposedly found a handful of "new" disciples who had "new" suras to tell, which they added into this "restored" version of the Quran.

If it sounds dumb and Satanic, that's because it is.
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>>134200111
chekkked

I notice he has nothing to say on what convinced him
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I'm gonna go make bacon and eggs, then take my dogs for a walk.
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>>134199421
>>134199421
1) They poured water on him. How is an elderly indivual supposed to use a lot himself?
2) This Hadith is narrated by Muawiya. The man who converted to Islam only after Mecca was conquered and declared ear on the boy mentioned here (Ali). Muawiya was slandering his political oponnent to win support. Muawiya would later go on to have Ali assassinated and Ali's oldest son and Muhammad's grandson poisoned after deposing him. Muawiya's son starved and slaughtered the rest of Muhammad's family at Karbala for trying to prevent a Monarchy replacing the Caliphate
3)He wasn't wearing her clothes he was with her under the sheet covering them
4)Not an authentic source
5) How can kid consent to another kid but not to an adult?
6) He doesn't talk about consuming it. He asks us to dip it in then remove it before drinking it.
7) It was used and recommended by Hippocrates as well. And it is proven to have benefits however it isn't superior to modern medicine
8) *Accused of being possessed
9)10) the Satanic verses incident is proof of him being a prophet. If he was indeed lying then why would he say that the verses that had led to no prosecution and torture and widespread support to be Satanic?
11) SEE:Yasser bin Ammar
12) Bestiality is punishable with 100 lashes or death
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If Jesus is, like Mohammad, your profit, but unlike Mohammad, you say in your holy book that Jesus is the voice of Allah, does that not mean that according to the holiest book you should be Christians?
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>>134193362
>>134196303
some excellent rares in this thread
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>>134200111
>The Quran is a bit interesting in the way it was recorded, because Mohammed had a handful of "disciples" that he taught about his visions.
If a handful means 72,000 then okay

>When he died, some of them wrote Mohammed's teachings down (since Mohammed could not read nor write himself) and some kept them remembered in their minds.
A whole team of scribes
>After some infighting after Mohammed's death,
Not infighting it was conquest of the rest of Arabia
>they started collaborating on a compiled Quran with all of Mohammed's teachings. When this compilation was completed, someone named Uthman (who had never met or spoken to Mohammed) came and said that the current Quran was incorrect,
Apparently Muhammad never met the fourth convert, his daughters (Ruqayya and Umme Khulthoom) husband and the person who gave money for most of the expeditions in Muhammad's lifetime and an essential member of his war council and executive council. Also, he wasn't just somebody he was the Caliph of the entire Muslim nation.
> then he ordered every copy of the "incorrect" Quran to be burned, then he wrote his own "correct" version.
Wrong. He had it written down by a team of scribes that first wrote down a verse by consulting each other, then the Caliph followed by Muhammad's family followed by his other Companions.
>Then some people tried to restore the old version that was "approved" by Mohammed's disciples, and while doing so, they supposedly found a handful of "new" disciples who had "new" suras to tell, which they added into this "restored" version of the Quran.
This never happened and whereas the white supermacist who agree with you accepts you entirely as truthful whereas he doesn't even accept the Sahih Bukhari as authentic
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>>134198099

Are you stupid ? jesus is a comforter the holy spirit is the other
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>>134192915
>Islam
Fuck off, goat fucker. If you aren't the worst plague this world has ever or will ever see, you are at least in the top five. I'd tell you to go kill yourself, but I don't want to indirectly cause any collateral damage from your explosion.
Come to the correct side and realize the truth; Allah is a lie, Mohammad a false prophet.
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>>134192915
Mohammad sucks fat pig dicks
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>>134200424
It was the incident of the satanic verse that convinced me if his authenticity.

Add to this his immense success and the fact that the Trinity makes no sense as doesn't polythiesm while Jews are dumb because pic related isn't happen to God's chosen people over an over again plus it's Racist.
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>>134192915

Mohammed is a disgusting pedophile and you sandniggers will be wiped off the face of the Earth in the coming world conflict.

Sage
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>>134200979
7) It was used and recommended by Hippocrates as well. And it is proven to have benefits

https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/06/10/stop-drinking-camel-urine-world-health-organization-says

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3118178/WHO-health-officials-tell-people-don-t-drink-potentially-fatal-camel-urine-advice-avoid-deadly-MERS-virus.html

http://metro.co.uk/2015/06/11/bad-news-for-anyone-who-likes-to-drink-camel-urine-5240920/
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>>134202516
the existence of a verse doesn't prove anything

the trinity being bullshit doesn't prove your version of unprovable bullshit is correct. you do realize this right?
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Salam Alaykum. How does one begin reading the Quran? What is a good translation into English?
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>>134202516
>Great is the mystery of godliness

You expect your puny human brain to fully comprehend the godhead? Don't you understand that God is omnipotent and can do literally whatever he wants? Anyway, the Quran literally just steals random doctrines from the Bible in a way which doesn't even make sense. You believe in the virgin birth but not original sin... incoherent.
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>>134200979
>6) He doesn't talk about consuming it. He asks us to dip it in then remove it before drinking it.

Dip a fly full of disease in your drink moh was a really smart guy
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>>134203550

But what can we expect from a man in 500 ad he knows nothing about bacteria
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>>134202869
No answers? Come on Abdul. I'm being serious here. I feel like reading it.
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>>134204403

Its so incoherent he probably does not even know him self
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>>134204564
Come on man. In all seiousness, all faiths have a small hint of the divine in them. Even if modern Islam is incredibly wicked and influenced by Salafism, that doesn't mean the text itself is that bad. Or maybe it is? I have yet to judge.
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>>134202869
Abdel Haleem's translation is probably the easiest to read. Start there, it can be found online for free or on amazon kindle.
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>>134201913
You are being a bit disingenuous, much of the Quran was recited by various people from memory when the full book was being assembled.
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>>134204727

I read it dont waste your time with it ,its the bible chopped in pieces , the stories are changed a bit ,and then plastered all over de quran.

there is nothing divine about the quran or his prophet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lpAR4wHWVE
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>>134192915
Can you make these daily please?
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>>134202796
Not it's existence. Basically Muhammad dismissing the verse as a lie leading to Prosecution os my evidence you autistic fuck
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>>134195876
I thought /pol/ wanted a qt virgin wife who will do you good?
>There is no such thing as rape in marriage, as a man is permitted unrestricted sexual access to his wives.
That's not what the verse said desu
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>>134205475
And further the cancer creeping up on this once fair board? No thank you.
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>>134202869
Read Muhammad's life first. I recommend the first Muslim by Lesley Hazleton for a non Muslim.

Karen Armstrong's book is just liberal nonsense and apologetics.

Then read the Sahih International Translation. You can look up the chronological order of revealetion on the internet or read the order in which the Angel Gabriel would revise it with Muhammad (Standard).

Do not expect a book filled with history like the Bible. It is more like a collection of Poems, Essays,Arguments and Legal Decrees that deal with philosophy, theology, politics and morality
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>>134195876
Wives are permitted unrestricted secual access to tgeir husbands too.
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>>134205671
>Implying you were here before the cuck shit happened
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>>134205866
>Karen Armstrong
Funny enough, I already had to read Prophet for Our Time in one of my classes. It was such garbage. The woman thinks she can put a feminist spin on the politics of an Arab in the 600's.
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>>134206056
Maybe I was, maybe I wasn't. Depends on which cuck shit.
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>>134192915
Here is your prophet getting fucking in the ass by a pig.
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>>134195904
Death by women and bullet soaked in pigs Blood for a bonus XD
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>>134206154
How rude :(
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>>134206154
That's really offensive
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>>134194737
you mean its forbidden to BE raped
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>>134206104
Exactly. She even accuses well respected Christian scholars who were critical of Muhammad's wives as being jealous of him.

It's typical of women to make personal attacks on one's sexuality to prove their points when facts oppose them.

I'm a Muslim and i was fucking pissed at her book. She lied a lot too. She claimed that Muhammad was with his family on the Mount of Paran and that a hadith he said to Abu Talib when offered all the tax revenue of the Kaabah, it's keys and any women he resired were said at hudaybiyah.

She also judges Muhammad by 21st century liberal morals and values.

Lesley Hazleton treats the subject of her book as a historical figure and her book isn't affected by global affairs. She simply states facts and paints a personality for Muhammad based on these
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How do you justify all the scientific errors in the Qur'an despite it supposedly being the infallible Word of God? Muslims often advertise the religion by saying that Muhammad had insider scientific knowledge that no one at the time knew, but this knowledge/concepts were often borrowed from other civilizations (such as the Greeks).

Picture semi-related, I guess.
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>>134202869
You will need a good English tafsir and the biography of muhammad. Otherwise you won't understand 3/4 of the bullshit, besides all the warnings about your suffering in hell and judaic plus christian anecdotes.
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>>134205671
Most /pol/acks are actually quite ignorant, they constantly need to validate their views even if it's voiced by a retard. Just look at how influential Varg has become, he's legitimately an idiot but people support him anyway because 'omg he said what I thought all along!'. I think it'd be interesting to see if Muslims can do something similar. I'd wager that if they push the right buttons, show how anti-degenerate Islam is, in no time people will go over to their side, never mind the truth
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>>134206699
>She also judges Muhammad by 21st century liberal morals and values.
Fucking this! She tries to make excuses for a man who sold the Jewish population of Yathrib into slavery. Mind you, I'm not going to judge the man either, but don't fucking make excuses for it either.

>Exactly. She even accuses well respected Christian scholars who were critical of Muhammad's wives as being jealous of him.
I don't recall reading that, but then again, I was skimming some sections of the book. Might have overlooked it. There's also the section where she goes into apologetic because Muhammad didn't remove wife beating. She's like a literal wifebeater apologist that keeps getting hit in the face by her husband.
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#AllahIsGay
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>>134192915
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>>134209079
Won't the bomb blow up while over the fire?
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>>134209026
that's because its mother was a whore
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>>134207249
She does that in the introduction.

Glad we agree on something.
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>>134192915
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>>134192915
The only good muslim is a dead muslim.
None of you deserve to live and one day we'll stomp your children to death in front of you then drown you in their blood and entrails.
God hates islam and you will all suffer worse than you already do.
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>>134205538
and that's all based on second hand information that you have no way of proving is true
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