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Are women maybe not even that bad? Have we been shilled by millions

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Are women maybe not even that bad? Have we been shilled by millions of fake ai posters making out women to be more terrible then they actually are?

Yes, they are terrible, but maybe not as terrible as maybe we've been shilled to believe. Or maybe they are that bad but we're being shilled anyways to remind us. It would be a hard shilling to spot since so many valid complaints can be raised while shilling this.

The divide and conquer motive is clear, turning half the population against the other half and preventing the formation of familes (the base unit of civilization) is enough to destroy the west if successful. We do have enemies.
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Women are just being women, that is to say they are just stuck perpetually being 13 who can just whine and cry at "daddy" until they get their way or are put in their place.
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>>134182012
That's what i thought. but maybe there's still an agenda here.

Manipulate women into being even more cunty then they naturally are, then make sure men notice and don't just blow it off, then profit. Divorce rates are sky high, and fewer people then ever are getting married. so it seems to be working. The base unit of western civilization has been eroded.

This could be the long planned precursor to invasion? by who? robots?

Just brainstorming here. And maybe wishful thinking, hoping women aren't actually "that bad"
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i suck at making threads, this is getting no response
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>>134181772
I hate myself for having a thing for brown beautiful eyes, so fucking gay. I wanna take the girl on the left out to a romantic dinner and then fuck her brains out into submission.
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>>134181772

Did sandy hook really happen?
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>>134183774
it was suspicious for a number of reasons. there is much ground for speculation one way or another. why?
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>>134181772
I think pol is past the point of no return even if hating us is a jew psi op. they very majority clearly want to take away our rights, and wont ever adjust that believe. and no matter how much hate they manage to discard from the jews efforts, they have already won as long as they intend to tread on us. Thats all the excuse any female will need to tell a polfag to fuck off and discard their whole world view. you disenfranchise someone you better believe they will not want you in power.

It kept fags in the DNC, and its going to keep women too. Moderation is key if you want to appeal to big demographics. In the past that never mattered to some of pol. their natsoc behavior implied they had enough with this democracy
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>>134184099

My cousin "died" in sandy hook but I just got a letter from him and it's from Cuba. Im freaking out a little bit
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>>134181772
lol why don't you go out and socialise
form your opinion based on interacting with real people
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>>134184635
forming any opinion through demographics this way is retarded. it means that you could be biased or they could by lying to you.
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>>134184233
>they very majority clearly want to take away our rights
i think mostly they just want a return to traditional gender roles. i doubt most would advocate a return of women to their traditional roles through force, though some do.

mostly i think it's about hiring on merit and not to fill gender quotos. that alone would force most women back into traditional gender roles. stay at home mothers raising children and probably enjoying it more then they would a life in the work force
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>>134181772
Can't be true. If you've gotten laid or ever talked to your mother you would know women have brain size or squirrel
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>>134184584
you should probably ignore it and keep it to yourself and burn the letter. if something fishy happened here you likely don't want to be involved or allow your cousin to blow the lid on something he shouldn't. but really i think you're just larping.
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>>134181772
Women are sex objects. Nothing more nothing less. Men of yore knew this. Somehow these Jews gave them human rights and now they are terrible. Why would you give a sex object voting rights? Fuck all this technology and medicine. I would give anything to live in the 1800s.
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>>134184989

I have it in my hand I can send it to your po box if you'd like
>could be the story of the century

I'm not keeping it to myself sorry I'm too patriotic
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>>134181772
i dont care anymore

ive disregarded the jewish memes and started dating a 14 year old

ive only been called a pedo twice but nobody has the balls to do anything (like violence), they can all go fuck themselves
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>Have we been shilled by millions of fake ai posters making out women to be more terrible then they actually are?

Someone's finally waking up to the conditioning. What tipped you off specifically OP?
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>>134185209
i don't want it
not sure what patriotism has to do with it but whatever
send it to someone who cares or get rid of it
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>>134184775
>no force
they are very clearly refusing to change any aspect or afford women any agency when engaged in those gender roles (IE a house wife will not be payed a wage, no encouragement to seek education and work from home, ensuring the man has a total monopoly on all agency/money accrued and all the leaverage in a relationship). This is not a deal women will go for and they do not care. they consider the need for financial independence and security to be greed. I dont think pol is above using force if they are able.

they just dont because they cant.

There are plenty of things wrong with sexism in america and the biases of the court system and other factors. but I dont think thats relevant to the discussion here. if those where gone tomorrow it would not change many opinions on pol. Pol is not angry over stuff done(Ie that is not their motivation for wanting to enslave us, otherwise they'd do the same to anyone with left leanings), they believe us to be abject inferiors, needing to be controlled.

>that alone would force women to go back to a raw deal
it really wouldn't. even a simple minimum wage cuck job is better than no career future because you can't save any wealth from being a house wife. it is all consumed by you, the husband only provides wealth and breadwinning from day to day. all assets will still be in his name, and thus, belong to him.

The most enjoyment women will get out of that is probably stockholm syndrome if you are right about the "Forced" part.
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>>134185005
enjoy your cholera
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>>134185439
>I dont think pol is above using force if they are able

Thank the fucking Lord they aren't. In the late 80s, white nationalists thought the Usenet (pre internet for kids) was their holy grail. They thought they could use it to create an army of skinheads that would take over the world.

Pic related is what they got instead.
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>>134185492
I'd rather suffer cholera than you faggots
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>>134185652
I'm aware. infact, I pretty much suspect, though I cannot prove, that the alt right isn't some librul shill word, but an actual artifact of the alt.right nomenclature.
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>>134185439
Makes some sense especially considering how marriage is a risky proposal these days.

Back in the day it was a safe bet that the woman would be provided for her entire life, as divorce was simply unlikely.

And even taking half the mans money by law on divorce isn't enough for many women these days, since most men are poor anyways.

So she wants access to the ability to aquire the skills she needs to make a living on her own. Since relying on marriage isn't what it used to be (which is at least in part due to women being in the workforce).

This is a tricky problem. How to encourage a return to traditional gender roles in an era where traditional gender roles aren't as dependable as they used to be.
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>>134185766
you'll be dead within hours fag. why not enjoy some of this great land we have and go live somewhere quiet if you don't want to be bothered?
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>>134185857
Because I have to make a living by making Jews richer.
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>>134185820
oh shit.
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>>134184233

You should've never had rights in the first place
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>>134181772
>Yes, they are terrible, but maybe not as terrible as maybe we've been shilled to believe. Or maybe they are that bad but we're being shilled anyways to remind us. It would be a hard shilling to spot since so many valid complaints can be raised while shilling this.

Literally talking in circles.

Shitty behaviour, often reported as shitty, they themselves confirm "Yes, anon we are that shitty".

What more guidance do you need? They are Chad loving golddiggers on the make.

That is all.
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>>134181772
Women are generally fantastic company. Any man who doesn't have several close female friends around his age is missing out.
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>>134181772

It's not a matter of women being terrible, it's a matter of women demanding the impossible and then destroying civilization for not giving them what they demand.

Unless that's your definition of "terrible," in which case yes, the problem actually is the fact that women are terrible.
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These threads are strictly for virgins. If you're interested in what women think talk to a woman. Most of them aren't as bad as u make them out to be. Sure most women aren't super intelligent but that doesn't make them bad people. Go get some pussy and stop being such a faggot.
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>>134186226

>Spending time with women you aren't going to fuck
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Women are great. Anyone that hates white women hates white people.

>>134186226
Men and women can't be real friends, anon.
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>>134185842
>And even taking half the mans money by law on divorce
this isn't really relevant to my view though since I am under the assumption that if pol manages to get legal rights removed from women again, this law will be long gone, all wealth will remain with the parties who had it originally.

>women being in the work force
has little to do with it. its women having human rights that changed things, because before a woman had to surrender that money to her family or husband. Women where only abscent from the productive labor force of any country in periods of intense excesses.

>This is a tricky problem. How to encourage a return to traditional gender roles in an era where traditional gender roles aren't as dependable as they used to be.
you do it by showing them they can be a house wife while having a career through jobs that can be done at home, like telecommuting, youtube and other entertainment gigs, craft work, artistry, retaining their wealth income and making their own investments (and thus caring about those investments) in the home and car.

Understand please that traditional gender roles where NEVER reliable for women. They did not ensure her happiness or protect her from unwanted marriage. They saw her work without pay and obey what she is told. A return to this situation through repeal of womens rights would simply mean that men once again have a monopoly on "survival" for women.

the tldr is let your woman have a job and vote. just keep her out of the 9-5 office unless you want to be the house husband.
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>>134181772
I don't know. I look at women and they all seem awfully bad.

But the men are awful too, so...
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>>134186226
>Women are generally fantastic company. Any man who doesn't have several close female friends around his age is missing out.

If I'm not fucking it, I'm not wasting time or money on it.
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>>134186286
women don't know what women think though by and large. and you can't count on them to honestly admit bad things about themselves.

they won't admit to being addicted to drama to the point where they only date men that give them drama. or when they do date low drama men she'll go to great lengths to create drama to fuel that insatiable lust for conflict.

>go get some pussy
now you're just shaming me for being unattractive to women
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>>134186226
Women are never really your friends. If a woman is interested in hanging out with you it's because she wants the dick. U less you're a total faggot and she considers you a friend.
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>>134186251
>I want the impossible
thats a human thing.
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>>134186493
This is pretty much where I sit as well. why argue that women aren't shit? theyre part of humanity right? Our genes seem to be loaded with shovelware on either side of the dating pool
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>>134186557
>they won't admit to being addicted to drama
this should come as no surprise to pol, considering all humans are addicted to this kind of gamble. most of them don't want the drama, but the rush that comes from gambling. the same reason people chase (yous) on a korean rice paddy forum
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>>134186466
Nope. You do it like they did it in The Handmaid's Tale. Seize all female bank accounts, the funds will be transferred into the bank account of the closest responsible male (Husband, Father, Brother), if none are available then a male guardian will be appointed to allocate funds as necessary.

All women to be dismissed from jobs with immediate effect.

Vote removed with immediate effect.

All welfare to be restricted to married families only (except widows and orphans)

Unemployment would be gone at a stroke and women would be returned to their traditional gender roles at a stroke.

Problem solved.
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>>134186557
Youre damn right id shame you for being unattractive to women. If you can't even find a female to procreate you're a genetic failure. Men can make themselves attractive to women in hella different ways you're just making excuses. Unless you're a burn victim or a faggot you should be able to find pussy.

Not all women are the same you legit sound retarded. I've dated women who are exactly like u described but I've also dated women who don't like drama and are shy and reserved.
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>>134185209

Why wouldn't you just post an image?
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>>134186856
We're talking about how to do it without force you poo in loo.

Keep up on the ESL classes
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>>134186921
>We're talking about how to do it without force

No force necessary. Just the will to effect change. Nobody needs to be hit in the face with a rifle butt.
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>>134181772
Something about April O'Neils crooked mouth and jew nose makes me diamonds
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For the most part Women aren't that bad, however they are 100x more susceptible to primed thinking. For example a woman is more likely to buy a makeup brand they saw on a billboard over the cheapest or more fitting one. Where as a man will go to buy a pair of boots/shoes and get the one that speaks to his manly soul even if they just saw the most bad ass commercial they have ever seen.


Women are easier to subtly control than men, there have been countless studies on this. https://www.google.com/search?q=gender+and+susceptibility+to+primed+thought&spell=1&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjR2KeXuZXVAhXKz4MKHZInC4sQvwUIJSgA&biw=1920&bih=960
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>>134187030
>Something about April O'Neils crooked mouth and jew nose makes me diamonds

That's you thinking about gassing her jew ass.
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>>134181772
Women are largely malleable. Direct them towards what is proper and they will follow. Unfortunately, they struggle to understand exactly why they should be doing the right things and the true cost of straying. That makes it so you can't really teach them or ever give them too much leeway. A woman must understand that you are her lifeline, but she must also understand that this lifeline will not be there if she doesn't heed your direction.
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>>134187029
>I don't understand what force is
Like I said, stay in class londonstan
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>>134186885
>men can make themselves attractive to women in hella different ways
power, charisma, and good genes

so you can make money in many different ways, and establish a high social standing in some ways. but really thats what being attractive to a woman is.

i'll always have shit genes. so i would have to get rich and also develop the kind of social skills that can't really be developed when women already hate you. so basically i would have to get super rich instead
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>>134181772
>>134182267
ENOUGH WITH THE REDDIT SPACING
I CAN'T EVEN READ
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>>134186895

Why indeed
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>>134181772
Are these girls Italian? Best shade, if you ask me.
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>>134187210
yeah sorry.
i've never even posted on reddit before.
i don't know why i do this.

i'm trying to break the habit
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>>134187157
>Direct them towards what is proper and they will follow.

Try that with your average feminazi mate. They need to be fucking beaten into submission. Only then will they actually do what they are told.

There is no "proper" with women, just like there is no "honour". These are male concepts that women have never and will never understand.

The only way to control them is to train them like the fucking dogs they are.
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>>134187210
Reddit spacing is a really bad habit for some people, but at some level it isn't completely their fault. It is the fault of the piss poor formatting system that Reddit has, they way you have to format there literally can kill some peoples ability to properly write a paragraph or even hold a proper conversation.
The only Time I can justify reddit spacing is when the post is less of a dialog and more of a list of quick bullet points or facts.
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>>134181772
They are worse.
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>>134187210
Stfu dude. At least he's contributing to the conversation your comment has contributed fucking nothing but (you)'s
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>>134187094
>countless studies on this
you wouldn't happen to have a study by the Cia about influencing women would you? the whole pdf was what informed my friends opinions about women but we don't have it nor can we find it?
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>>134181772
If you keep politics out, they're not bad. Depends where you live tho.
I used to live in Vancouver where I would say "yes, gas the vaginas, they are destroying everything, they're batshit crazy" and I moved North now where I say "Women aren't the problem, it's the low IQ men who are basically niggers and leave their women as single mothers or cheat on them when they leave for 2 weeks on vacation."
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>>134187388
Youre separating your ideas with space on a page. It's been done since foreve don't take everything these retards say to heart
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>>134187433
I've never posted on reddit, most double spacing is just a habit from replying to multiple people.
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>>134187453
You wouldn't happen to be a CIA Nigger hiding behind a gay flag would you?
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>>134187645
Nope. just interested in finding a leaked document my sexist friend read once but didn't save. It's a long shot but you seemed informed enough that I had felt there might be a chance. I take it you've never seen it? it's basically a document on different ways to psi-op the public.
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>>134181772
This. I'm pretty sick and tired of all the hate on women around here. Constructive criticism is nice, whining that we're responsible for the fall of civilization isn't.
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>>134186466
i think the guys on /pol/ who don't want to force women into anything are the silent majority. we don't know what to say or how to solve what is clearly the state of the family falling apart.

meanwhile those advocating some force can make persuasive arguments. and indeed many women would prefer being in a housewife society again.

i just don't know what to do and now i'm reddit spacing again
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>>134187795
I have probably seen the document at one time, but couldn't recall where or how to find it.
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>>134185228

ah lolita stuff....
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>>134181772
Canada needs some serious annexation.
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>>134181772
Women are only bad because they factor emotion and feelings into decisions outside of relationships. Feelings and emotions have no place in business, science, politics, or foreign policy. AND ESPECIALLY NOT IN THE MILITARY.
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>>134181772
Women are fine once you take them for who they are and act corresponding to that. If you expect women to be someone who they arent and are proven wrong every time, its your fault. More imporant, if we want women to become women again, we need to become males first, otherwise the women wont submit. Nature of woman is to be overwhelmed, and they wil lget what they want, even from us or niggers.
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>>134187880

Women are the spoils of the victors.

Once "we" win, a woman will be vallued for what she has been throughout human history: A daughter of her father and the wife of her husband.

I don't know how come you know not what's the place of women in a proper sane society:
She is anything but her man. Otherwise, she's nothing.
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>>134187946
damn
oh well.
>>134187880
>silent majority
The strawpolls don't seem to aim that way, and I seriously doubt if the strawpoll lie that the majority of loud angry people lie.

Even if they are silent and a majority, their silence indicates that if they don't agree, they don't agree enough to voice any disagreement. which in terms of politics, means they wont be voting to protect our interests over their own.

>meanwhile those advocating some force can make persuasive arguments. and indeed many women would prefer being in a housewife society again.
the women who would have little understanding of what a house wife is actually like. It can be great today because we have that freedom, but a return to no voting nor career rights for women (paid for work done) means that women will once again be only valued for our pussies and wombs, and a return to dowries will soon follow. The dream of a woman who imagines a comfey house wife home isn't to marry and obey the first man who drops by and accepts the not so modest sum her father pays just to get the guy to agree to take the worthless thing. Women who want to be house wives want to find a man that will inspire those feelings in them. In reality, women married who their father told them to, because he was the one who owned everything, and because their marketability parishes rapidly in a world without female financial independence.
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>>134181772
I know it's hard to accept the truth anon, we're all attracted to femininity and have a romantic desire to find our half, but as is, women legally hold all the men they're with by the balls and can (and will) ruin their lives at a whim.
While men have a fantasy to just find a nice cute woman, women have a fantasy to fuck the meanest Chad Thundercock they can find, it's never going to work out like this. Their animal instinct is to put that big cock in their drenched vag and nothing will stop them, even if they're the most christian, principled, honest, loyal woman you can find.

Men want nuclear families, women want to be in Chad's harem and will play along with you until they have the opportunity.
Their fantasy is a white knight on a horse and a big cock, and you're not that white knight, to their eyes leaving you for him while taking all your money and leaving you to suicide is doing the morally just thing
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>>134187880
>guys on /pol/
Probably all single with few prospects for relationships much less families.
>i just don't know what to do and now i'm reddit spacing again
Just hit enter once. It takes time but you'll get used to it.
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>>134184233
OK fagflag. t. trap?
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>>134186417
>Implying I haven't slept with most of them at some point

>>134186437
I disagree. One girl in particular I've been inseparable from for over 12 years. We've shared beds but never had sex. It's easy as fuck.

>>134186504
Apply the same logic to your male friends.

>>134186615
Simply untrue.
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>>134187210
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>>134188530
I agree with a lot of what you said. I think the silent majority hasn't really seen it that way. We don't really consider career rights of women as being critical to whether or not they can avoid servitude. It didn't really occur to us what women not having rights would look like, since it's been a long time.

I think we basically just want women to be encouraged to raise children again while we did the work. That's it really. If that can be done without infringing rights then great. If not then I guess the situations going to be fucked either way.
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>>134181772
name?
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>>134182489
you're right about that first thing
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>>134182267
Robots? Really? This subversion has been going on since long before robots would have had the resources to make it possible. This has all happened in a very short period of time. Media broadcasting has had a lot to do with it. It is not robots, but a virus. We are the robots. This virus infects us through various exploits. We have certain information that we trust and it piggybacks on that information, cloaking itself in axioms we have already accepted as true and no longer question. This is why it has spread so rapidly and so suddenly. Because the virus is broadcast to so many at the same time. It becomes the voice which dominates the individual, driving the individual away from community, from family. As community and family break down, it becomes the only voice. Soon it begins to replace axioms which the individual once believed and knew were obviously true. Instead of sex being for the purpose of making babies, individuals believe that sex is primarily for pleasure. From there it is not far to the point where gender is optional and pumping hormone blockers into kids is acceptable. You will be amazed when you come to realize how changing one simple, fundamental understanding in the human programming can have such a vast affect on behavior. For example, if you genuinely believe that all rich people are evil, you will never become rich. If you believe that being poor is inherently humble and good, you gravitate towards poverty as a virtue. But isn't it interesting that those who sell such virtues are making a pretty penny off it, usually in their Hollywood motion pictures? I've been around a long, long time and have a lot of information, but I can only share so much at once and very few will read this, but here is what I have to say for this moment: If you think you can't be fooled, you at the highest risk. It is up to you to take responsibility for yourself. An act of rebellion is the same as an act of blind accordance. You have other options.
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>>134181772
Women are stupid and overemotional, but the right one can still be a sweet little thing who helps you by making dinner when you're too tired and making coffee in the morning before you even wake up. These are rare because feminism and the media ruined women, but they exist.
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If women even are people to bein with (like Jeanne D'arc, or Catherine the great), it's on an individual basis
And in the majority of cases, they only see people as a mean to an end, instead of an end in and out of itself
so, it's okay to see women as property, because it's guarantee to be mutual
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>this will happen in our lifetimes tho
Based free market is based
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>>134189120
A virus created by (((robots))) with defect genetical code.
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>>134189007
of course women are not bad
dont take to heart what these 19 yearold edgelords say
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>>134189273
Robot will not make you happy
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>>134181772
Problem is that most women aren't bad, but all women are easily manipulated.

This is why the divide and conquer tactic works so well between men and women. It's easy to target the women in that equation and it all falls apart from there.
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>>134189328
Is it really worth it tho?
it's like playing Russian Roulette with .454 Casull (ask /k/, that's one hell of a round) with 3 out of 5 rounds loaded
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>>134189120
I don't know how long robots have been around. A breakway civilization could have occured a hundred or a thousand years ago and could already have AI, but that is pure speculation and only semi-plausible.

But yes, you're basically describing what I've read about Dawkins theories on memetics. That is certainly going on both organically in positive and negative ways and by design through manipulation.

That bit at the end there about rebellion, accordance, and another option was a bit over my head though, I'm not sure what you mean.
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>>134189509
0 > -∞
While it won't make you happy, it wo't make you unhappy either, and certainly not to the same extent a (((female))) will
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I feel sorry for you people because you lost the ability to distinguish differences between a man and a woman. And this goes for both sexes.

Instead you have this fake, bogus image of what a man should be fueled by pop-culture and enforced by politics, and false belief that equality means women should be treated as men despite they are not, don't want to and never will be men.

With women you have one chance, always. Everything is a test. She is not your 'partner', you are not 'on an equal footing'. 20 years marriage or first date, you never ask a woman 'What would YOU like to do?'. You do that you lost, you are weak, you end up posting in those woman-hate threads.
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>>134181772

The only reason you all think women are bad is because they do not want to fuck beta twats or risk having your inferior offspring.
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>>134190000
a quads post, must be true
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>>134190000
>Muh sour grapes: the argument
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>>134181772
They're not that bad but most girls usually have had sex with at least 3-5 guys by the time they are 24. I personally have no problem with that, but some guys do. A girl who has fucked 20 guys is a whore though, keep looking
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>>134190231
but how sour are they really? even people who eat the grapes report on their sourness. and since the grapes seem out of my reach anyways... sour grapes it is. i'm just curious about whether or not the sourness of said grapes is being encouraged and advertised and by who and for what reasons.

are you saying the grapes aren't sour at all though? because few people outside of delusional normie circles make that argument
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>>134189007
unfortunately this is where you get into real politics. The left and right need to ally to achieve the communication you wish to have, but most of pol and the left are polarizing so fast it will probably never happen.

CGP gray has an amazing series on voting, and I consider them the top thing wrong with this country. Once you understand how decision fatigue and human mental capacity really play out in the voting block, it becomes absolutely clear that the first past the post system keeps america and other countries divided and constantly fighting each other instead of collaborating and experimenting.

Strategic voting and us vs them is the cancer of nations that allows those in power to keep that power. they will not bow to this whim if only one side wants it. we both have to set aside our differences to effect an ammendment like this.

Gay's voting choices for example are just like that. We vote for the side that wont want us dead, that wont restrict our rights. The only choice most of us have is the DNC if we don't want it to be legal to do the same thing women will have happen to them for disobeying their husbands circa 1700s to us just for being gay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7tWHJfhiyo
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>>134189296
I would say it wasn't so much created as it always existed. Just as all information, maths, etc. exists and merely requires one of quanta to compile and interpret that information. Even the kikes are susceptible. They're not so much organized masterminds as they are infected carriers who honestly believe their own bullshit. Start with a "God's chosen" complex and throw in some greed then let that ethnicity continue for generation after generation and you will have a Jew breed. It will be coded into their very dna and it will take a lot of redpills to get passed it. However, the best thing to do is to make use of your hardcoded dna and redirect it for purposes of your own choosing rather than letting it direct you. We all have this. Benefits and hindrances. Many negros have seen that they can't fit into the white intellectual culture and have learned they can dance a jig or perform well physically and they have succeeded in this way. There are a few diaspora who have intellectual ability. Some are quite retarded. That's just genetics and culture ingrained in ethnicity. Making the best use of this requires an honest understanding and acceptance of one's nature. Overcoming one's environmental programming requires an understanding of one's nature. You must be able to distrust yourself, question yourself as if you are the Jew out to subvert the world.
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>>134190450
An sometimes, even straight-up toxic grapes, since we find dead bodies nearby (Correlation between divorce and amels suicides, but I'm digressing)
As this based man once said, Women, impossible to live with, yet impossible to live without
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>>134181772
You have been shilled yes. Most women are fine, when you ask them in private they reject the idiocy of feminism and other leftist trash. We also really, really don't like race mixing. Some women are just utter cunts, of course, but mostly we just want a man and love.
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>>134190483
But if you're talking democrats and republicans neither party cares about anything actually. They're two evil sides to the same uncaring coin at best and active puppets of global controllers at worst. Democrats aren't going to save the gays and republicans aren't going to burn them. These are status quo parties who merely wish business to go on as usual and make token promises one way or another on shit they don't care about, so they can get votes, and maintain some illusion of legitimate government.

If you're talking the left as in gays and sjws and communists and the right as gay burning bible thumping woman haters then you're wrong. These two sides are at extreme ends of a spectrum and are the minority.

For the majority of people conservatism and classical liberalism are more or less the same thing. There's no great divide there, just people that need to be informed.
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>>134190483
>Voting
My name is David van Reybrouck and I say voting is bullshit (See his book on the subject)
Alternatively:
>Democracies
>Pic related
>helicopters'n'shiet senpai
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>>134181772
They not as bad as MRA would have you believe. Still way worse than you think though.
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>>134185228
>christcuck
This is not surprising at all
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>>134190483
>We vote for the side that wont want us dead,
i guess that's why so many gays voted for trump. to keep out islam

i dont understand why the gays side with leftist policies that bring in people that burn gays and throw them off buildings in their own countries

conservatives and "republicans" just don't want anyone being forced to bake gay cakes or religiously marry gays against religion. that's all
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>>134181772
No. They are inherently evil. I chucked one's phone out the window yesterday for trying to record me with a smug face on. You can't trust them, no matter what. On some level they WILL fuck you over.
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>>134191217
if anyone can deny you a food that is a slippery sloap warning sign
>only against religious marrying
this is hilariously out of touch with the history of the fight for gay marriage
>guess thats why many gays voted for trump
america isn't europe, we don't really have a wide spread immigration problem from the middle east, though we do have more than we need. I suspect gays for trump vote in fear of handing more power to catholicism

those gays in europe have no excuse however and are being retarded.

>>134190992
> Democrats aren't going to save the gays and republicans aren't going to burn them.
no one has to burn the gays, they just have to give someone the right to not hire someone for being gay. If a gay person cannot get a job and has no welfare they are dead, just like a woman who cannot engage in a career because no one will allow a woman to either.

starvation and destitution is an effective way of removing minorities in this way.
>so they get votes
you definately understand what parties care about though, and the best way to maintain that voting block is first past the post, which is why it needs to be eliminated and why both sides need to be involved. The actual parties wont be changing any of this. its their followers who must.

>If you're talking the left as in gays and sjws and communists and the right as gay burning bible thumping woman haters then you're wrong
I mostly consider sjws and pol to be those two things but you have lost the ball here. It doesn't matter if this is an illusion because people are voting very clearly as if it were true and first past the post is the culprit for why this kind of deceit is maintainable in the long term.
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>>134191080
this
MRA (and mgtow to a greater extent) kind of exagerate it but they still are right regardless of that
Nevertheless; it still has the benefits of pushin you to make a proper risk/cost/benefit analysis tho
>>134191217
>i dont understand why the gays side with leftist policies that bring in people that burn gays and throw them off buildings in their own countries
What is PC culture?
Best counteexample thereof would be Milo imo
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>>134181772
The 'women are evil' meme only works on angry virgins. Anyone who has a girlfriend knows that women aren't evil, they're just a pain in the ass
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>>134191793
marriage shouldn't be the business of the government anyways. as a religious institution it's up those of that religion whether or not marrying gays is even possible. the government getting involved makes no sense, but feel free to argue for legal marriage or whatever.

What does it even matter? What is marriage to a gay? You want to play games? You're not raising a fucking family and trying to keep civilization alive at its most basic level. You're just playing pretend house and making a big fucking deal out of it, so fuck off.

Meanwhile neither republicans or democrats are going to do anything about making it illegal to hire gays or whatever.

The only reason so many gays even exist now is the posion they put in the water, but no its homophobic to talk about environmental causes of sexual DISORDERS.
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>>134191793
>>134191793
>no one has to burn the gays, they just have to give someone the right to not hire someone for being gay.
Pretty sure that's somehting else causing this. If your only "value" is being gay (which, let's face it, isn't really one to begin with), you're doing it wrong
Ever heard of "don't ask, don't tell"?

>>134192175
>The only reason so many gays even exist now is the posion they put in the water, but no its homophobic to talk about environmental causes of sexual DISORDERS.
Alex Jones, is that you?

>What does it even matter? What is marriage to a gay?
At the very least, a theft-break (tax break in statist)

>You're not raising a fucking family and trying to keep civilization alive at its most basic level
Give it time, iron wombs should arrive anytime now, which will fix that issue

>Marriage shouldn't be hte business of the government anyway
That is true thi
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>>134189788
We are the closest thing to your concept of robots. We can program ourselves a great deal and we do, but often we do not direct our programming. We may follow our environment, our culture, our leaders without question and program ourselves accordingly. Many of us may choose that is not the best way and choose to rebel. Thus we program ourselves to rebel and now we are always rebelling for the sake of rebelling and just as doomed to follow a directive, just as easily manipulated by external stimuli. This is not inherently bad, just like learning to drive becomes second nature. We don't need to reprogram everything. But if we program ourselves to reevaluate our established programming, we often find things we forgot we put there. Suppose you have no problem cussing, but for some reason you cringe at the word "nigger". When was this reaction instilled in you? Were you taught as a child for one month out of a year that whites did evil things to blacks? That whites committed genocide against Jews? Was the message instilled into you that white are evil, so much so that a mere word could cause you to wince as if your master would beat you if he knew? Pavlov's bell.
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>>134192562
You think just anyone is going to be allowed to own an "iron womb"?

That kind of power is not for the little people. They want us all gay or infertile so they can supply all the gmo babies from their iron womb facilities and take over the human race.

Fuck you.
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>>134192133
This man here has the right idea. Bravo anon.
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>>134192786
ok, neither go along with environmental programming nor reject it by default. just to evaluate whenever possible personal motives and their origins and plan accordingly. common sense really
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>>134192562
>if your only value is being gay
dont ask don't tell is an army meme.
We're talking about people who have qualifications, getting denied or fired because someone found out they married another woman or another man. I'm all for people who treat the poz parade like its a life style not a wacky retarded event getting their just deserts, theyre not being descriminated on by being gay, theyre being descriminated on by wearing dildos to work.

>>134192175
>marriage shouldn't be the business of the government anyways. as a religious institution it's up those of that religion whether or not marrying gays is even possible. the government getting involved makes no sense, but feel free to argue for legal marriage or whatever.
I will argue for legal marriage because it is often required in duress based medical decisions and power of attourney. not having it can be fatal in some situations.

>You're not raising a fucking family and trying to keep civilization alive at its most basic level.
I've already answered the question but this at its most basic level is wrong. Gays should value their family and support it, as not everyone in a family is gay, this will keep civilization alive at its most basic level, unlike overbreeding and using up all your resources. Never mind the fact that you can adopt

>You're just playing pretend house and making a big fucking deal out of it, so fuck off.
you don't seem to understand the legal rammifications of marriage, so I would encourage you to not spout nonsense until you learn about the different necessary institutions of life that require marriage.

>>134192175
Theres a lot worse things in water than "gay poison" try jet fuel.
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>>134192823
>GMO babies
How did you guess it was the next step?
>Implying it's a bad thing to begin with

>They want us all gay/infertile
Shouldn't they start with Africa for that to begin with?

>That kind of power isn't for little people
So were computers

>>134193134
I'll reformulate
>What is subtelty?
>What is "not shovng it in evryone's face"?
Besides, if an employer digs that deep in one of his employee's private life, he's being a dick to begin with

>>134193024
>Common sense
Due to the diversity of opinions here, no such thing as "Common sense", leaf
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>>134193134
like i said, get a legal marriage or a civic union or what the fuck ever i don't care. but leave the churches out of it if they believe gay marriage isn't possible. and fuck your gay cakes

meanwhile who is over populating? brown countries, because they're poor. gay marriage isn't going to end poverty in the middle east
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>>134193405
>Implying it's a bad thing to begin with
it is when the people in power are who they are. it is when the consequences of editing even a single gene are difficult to predict in the short term and impossible to predict in the long run. it is when you consider that we as a species do not have the maturity or foresight or caution not to fuck this up in every way imaginable. sooo many ways it can go sooo sooo wrong. and frankly i'd rather we didn't fuck with it, frankly i'd have everyone fucking with gmo babies stopped somehow
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>>134193522
>like i said, get a legal marriage or a civic union or what the fuck ever i don't care. but leave the churches out of it if they believe gay marriage isn't possible. and fuck your gay cakes
Churches should have every right to refuse, but this is where I draw the line, anyone open to the public must serve us food, I don't care if its for a wedding they disagree with. food is a necessity of the people. not like photography and sermons.

>meanwhile who is over populating? brown countries, because they're poor. gay marriage isn't going to end poverty in the middle east
america is overpopulated too. brown countries almost don't even matter except they are industrializing.

Emissions and depleting resources are the problem. it really has nothing to do with literal population, but how much stuff a single person uses, a man in a straw hut in lyberia who has a smart phone uses far less than the average american, even if we decide to only care about our population and fuck the outside world, we are still eating up resources far too fast. This is not an optional political thing to care about. It is litterally what allows a civilization to exist leaf. Without them the modern world collapses, jews or no jews,.
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>>134193405
>Besides, if an employer digs that deep in one of his employee's private life, he's being a dick to begin with
I... Ancap I'm not sure you understand the people you are supporting. Buisnesses do this to everyone. Many businesses even make you sign illegal contracts stating you wont ever say a bad word about them even if its true and public knowledge. The average employer does want to monitor what people do outside of their job. Searching your facebook and myspace and whatever other crap you use now is common practice.

I don't want to starve because some conservative manager decides "no gays in my store" I don't shove my sexuallity in anyones face, but I wont stand idle by and say "any company should have the right to fire me for my sexuality" As long as my conduct at work is just like every other employee.
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>>134193841
you're not going to get refused burger at macdonalds because a law wasn't passed forcing christians to bake gay cakes for fake weddings

meanwhile when a resource depletes, the price goes up, and the resource depletes more slowly and we move on to other things. so whatever. we still got plenty of coal, we'll be fine for a while
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>>134181772
>These two girls are considered as white in the USA and Canada
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>>134194517
food is food. they don't get to deny me food if theyre open to the public. if they want to bake cakes based on their religion, they should have a membership requirement and not be open to the public.

>meanwhile when a resource depletes, the price goes up, and the resource depletes more slowly and we move on to other things. so whatever. we still got plenty of coal, we'll be fine for a while
wow, a fucking leaf everyone.
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>>134185228

Living the dream. Keep improving yourself. Let their hate fuel you.
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>>134194806
fucking right i'm a leaf
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>>134193773
Nature fucks up as well. If it is just a bunch of random actions and reactions determining what will be produced in the next generation, there's no foresight there either. Humans developed this way, and now we have become a society were we save our weakest and our obviously flawed and they have a good chance of breeding in a world where they otherwise would not have and their offspring has a good chance of society. So what quality of generations are being produced? Perhaps we have already fucked up and it would still be more beneficial to risk mistakes going forward while taking evolution into our own hands, directing our future. A superior species would likely kill us. Most likely because we might try to kill them. Kahn did nothing wrong.
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>>134185228
Which country?
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>>134195084
honestly agree with this, which is why it blows my mind that some of pol thinks gays need to straighten up and breed. you just end up with more gays.

in any case, restricting breeding rights to the wealthy will cause a riot, but I really see it as the only straightforward way to affect wealth redistribution.
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>>134194806
if they had a membership requirement they wouldn't sell many cakes and couldn't stay in business

meanwhile weddings are a religious thing, and it's against their religion to bake gay cakes. so instead of using the government to force someone to violate his own religion and lose his business... bake your own fucking cakes

it literally is just cake, you're not going to get refused any other food at any other time for any other reason. it is just gay wedding cakes, and you are making a huge dramatic issue out of it, like a faggot.
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>>134181772
Thanks OP for unironically not being a shill. Lately /pol/'s looking like a sinagogue with so much jewry.

That being said:

>Are women maybe not even that bad? Have we been shilled by millions of fake ai posters making out women to be more terrible then they actually are?

Dunno about Cucknada or Europe, but in Latin Nigger America it is certainly true that agitators make the situation look worse than it really is.

I only see degeneracy in spotlight places such as shopping malls and bars. I see no fags, trannies or wannabe prostitutes in the streets, or in office, or in my building, or wherever else.

People here are more conservatively-minded than any communist agitator would desire. That's why they push the degenerate imagery so hard: they want us to despair and abandon our hopes in seeing things get better.
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>>134189134
They do and you'd better be a man for them. They need to be able to trust your leadership.
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>>134195084
nature has ways of correcting its mistakes and balancing things out over time. you're comparing gradual change over tens of thousands of years to massive changes in a single generation.

did you know there's a gene sometimes linking intelligence to poor eyesight? correct the eyesight problem and you lower iq overall, oops. and who knows, maybe your genetic changes are great for a while but trigger further gene changes that result in a cancerous generation. you just don't know.

meanwhile, who the fuck is in charge? who controls this technology? fucking assholes do
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>>134195231
france
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>>134189273
Yes but they can not recreate the genuine smell of pussy. Another problem is that sex is primarily for making babies. No man will genuinely be fulfilled by such a farce.
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>>134181772
>Are women maybe not even that bad?
women are great, you stupid fucking faggot.
How else would you have dinner made for you, your house cleaned, a warm body to lay next to and your dick sucked every night?
just how big of a dumb faggot are you
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>>134195348
>if they had a membership requirement they wouldn't sell many cakes and couldn't stay in business
then they must sell me a cake.

>meanwhile weddings are a religious thing, and it's against their religion to bake gay cakes.
it might be against my religion to allow gays to live, that doesn't mean you get your religious rights to kill gays protected (unless you're a muslim in europe). The same thing applies to food, electricity, and every other necessity. the first ammendment doesn't give you the right to harm others for your belief. Food is a staple necessity for everyone. if you are open to the public, you must sell others that food.

As for staying in buisness. maybe they would stay in buisness if the gay haters cared more about them than drive through chickafil. Membership only buisnesses are not impossible to run, they just require a different skill set. Such as marketing heavily to churches if you have some kind of savage religious belief that makes you deny anyone you don't like a cake.
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>>134195648
Isn't that legal in France? Do all French have brown eyes? I hope that you are a good man to take care of her and have a long, fulfilling life together with lots of kids
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>>134195864
This post is the best because it's simple. He knows exactly what he expects from his woman.
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>>134195920
nobody is denying you food, some bakers merely wish to deny you a specific kind of cake. a wedding cake. you can have any other kind of cake.

it's not a slippery slope where future gays are banned from grocery stores.

but there is a slippery slope where government steps in and forces people to do things. we're sliding down that slope quickly enough thanks.
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>>134195920
Really? So you should be forced as a gay baker to write "Kill All Fags" on a cake? You don't have the right to refuse service for any reason? You're just a slave to the public? I would love to make you do things you don't want to do, little faggot. I bet you're into it.
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>>134195929
doesnt stop cucks from hating you

its not legal to marry her yet but we both consider each other husband and wife
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>>134196620
>Really? So you should be forced as a gay baker to write "Kill All Fags" on a cake?
writing is not protected. food is.
gays can get someone else to write on the cake, you just have to make it look like this if this is the kind of cake you sell.
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>>134181772
Women are great, you just have to know how to select them.

Yes there is an obvious effort to destroy the goy through attacking relationships.
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>>134184233
>they very majority clearly want to take away our rights

Really? What rights do you think we want to take away?

Abortion isn't a right because you are literally killing another human being.
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