Syria General /sg/ - Good Morning Syria Edition

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>>134151536

>>134151536
DEIR EZ ZOR WHEN?
Any news about Sukhnah offensive?

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nth for the iraqi army

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>>134151632
>tfw this pic is accurate

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>>134151536
Use swissrolls OC for bread sometime too. been begging for threads now.

also. I'm out. later

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ASSAD WILL WIN

>>134151686
SUKHNAH NEVER
DEIR EZZOR NEVER
DEATH TO ASSAD

CINA = BABI

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>>134151919
Jewish Jew, is that you?

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https://twitter.com/TomtheBasedCat/status/887498290094276609

GUYS! IS HAPPENING!

A few more questions from a newfag before I go to bed. Do the Kurds, YPG/SDF, mostly coexist with the Syrian government? Do their interests align at to where they can live side by side without conflict? And does Russia support the YPG/SDF?

>>134151771
Why does everyone hate you friend?

>>134152059
That Kraut pic describes reddit ganging up on me, so it's not everyone, just outsiders/redditards

>Palestinian worshippers hurt in clash with Israeli police in Jerusalem

http://www.nydailynews.com/newswires/news/world/palestinian-worshippers-hurt-clash-israeli-police-jerusalem-article-1.3336895

>IF TEMPLE MOUNT SECURITY MEASURES REMAIN, 'WE WILL SEE AN EXPLOSION'

http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/If-Temple-Mount-security-measures-remain-we-will-see-an-explosion-500055

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>>134152037
No the Kurds in Syria want to carve their "own" country out of Syria . They betrayed Assad and allied with USA to create "The great Kurdistan" in order for it to become a foothold for zionist/American army.

>>134151919
Hahaha not Cina asshole
Malaysia is multicultural
There are lots of ethnics here so you can call me chinese or whatever but your namecalling is ineffective jew
Its good to be a Sabah native here. So peaceful while posting in this shit imageboard.

>>134152227

Muhammad Arar, a resident of the Muslim Quarter, told The Jerusalem Post that locals were willing to escalate the situation until they got their way. He added that Friday would be a critical point.

>>134152256
Thanks Japan, I thought it was strange that the US-backed SDF were fighting with them. Poor Syria

>>134152256
And they're making enemies out of all 4 neighbors by doing so. The only thing stopping Turkey/Iran/Russia/Syria/Iraq from going all-out against the Kurds is the USA. Once US support for the Kurds ceases, we will see a bloodbath unlike anything we've ever seen

>>134152310
Do malayzian Chinese identify themselves as Malaysian or as Chinese?
From I have noticed they always marry each other, frequent each other and even study/talk in Chinese (instead of Malaysian)

>>134152451
>>134152256
With the Kurds I mean

>>134152189
Thanks Ebin Shitposter. You are good poster. I like /sg/ it is comfy. Going to lurk soon.

>>134152457
Has there been any hint that this will be the case? Once we do that it seems we're out of the game for good, right?

>>134152549

There's a reason why Russia isn't bombing the FSA/HTS turkish allies at the moment, many deals under the table to kill the new "Moderate Group"

>>134152488
Malaysian Chinese in peninsula malaysia are quite racist and hate malay natives

Malaysian chinese in borneo are much more open minded and friendly to locals

Know this difference it could save you one day

>>134152549
With 10 whole US bases there? I don't think US involovement will end any soon.

>>134152043
> TRS raiding
That's about as credible as aliens shooting JFK in 1962.
You're on the most easily baitable board on the site, /ptg/ is not being raided by some outside entity with nefarious purposes, you're on the board of shitposters and baiting.

>>134152732
You're right about that. I'm wondering if we're going to see a permanent US presence in Kurdistan
>Barring WWIII that is

>>134152732
US bases doe not mean they'd support Kurds.
Russia and Turkey are more than willing to make a deal and US is nto above to let the kurds get fucked if they can officially stay then.
The goal is suppressing Syria and attacking Iran by future proxies

>>134152707
>Malaysian Chinese in peninsula malaysia are quite racist and hate malay natives

Yeah I noticed that. Some places made me feel like I was in Peijing or Shanghai. How about the native Malay, have they said anything about the blatant racism?

>>134152457
So once USA ceased support for the kurds there will be a kurdlocaust right? GASSING KURDS WHEN?? God bless Saddam the best dictator

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Going to bed /sg/
>Stay /comfy/
>Keep shitposting
>Ignore the bad shills/redd*tards
Have a QT on me!

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>>134153014

>>134152907
Current US bases are in "Kurd" territory now. So you telling me US will let the resistance axis bombard its bases?

If the US was really willing to only "support" the Kurds, they would just made a couple of outposts and using the Jordan air Base for airstrikes.

Making 10 bases and a couple of them are fucking huge (can hold aircraft, armor and 5,000+ troops) just to "support" or or destroy a practically dead ISIS is pure retardation.

The US/Israeli intentions are clear, the only thing left to create a reason strong enough (with media support) to gain public support for it.

>>134152917
Native Malay and Chinese hate each other deeply even if in the media they show that they tolerate each other it is not the case. They always held deep hatred for each other for i dont know. Maybe because different religion? Political sect? Historical (chinese in the past were commies while native malays were right wing conserbatives propped by the anglo)?

I am just glad to live in this peaceful nation of different ethnics in borneo. I am native but I love chinese food of pork and they are often intermarrying locals producing qt breeds. I'm ok with local chinese here in sabah, except foreign chinese because they are foreign and trying to take our sovereignty.

>>134153321
>clear enough
So.. threatening Syria and Iran?

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>>134153014
One of the catholic churches i went as a symbol of appreciation for assad. I pray to him every sunday

>>134152801
don't waste your time
he's a ptg nigger pretending not to be one
they're the only one on this board believing that antisemitism, racism, anti american interventionism is due to shill raids
don't give him (you)'s

>>134153597
Mostly Iran

>>134153597
Basically expand their territory throughout Syria all the way to Iraq.

Once they finished with Assad, they will just brand SDF/Ypg as terrorists and eradicate them. You know, exactly as they did with Taliban

>>134153468
it's true that Peninsula People was Retard..

>>134153799
>finished with Assad
That train left the station.
Assasinating Assad at this point doesn't make sense anymore. Except Trump gets impeached and the shocker gets mroe aggressive there is not reason that there is a
>finished with Assad
time before Trump stops being president.

Though they might go for Iran just from their SDF base territory.

oh yeah, I think I'm on 24 hours /sg/ now.
Fucking project is due in 2 hours made me pull an all nighter.

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>>134153776
>they're the only one on this board believing that antisemitism, racism, anti american interventionism is due to shill raids
Well then /ptg/ are clearly not from here.
Bandwagoners and hyperpartisan Jews, the lot of them.

>>134154460
Course they're not from here, they're from reddit (and facebook, to a lesser extent)
but we already knew that

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Mosul

>>134152014
What is the strategic position of winning this university? Is it to increase morale?

>>134153755
you should place a small image of him on the shrine

>>134154648
to study the size of your momma ass

>>134154617
A prisoner?

>>134154772
FUKKEN GOT EM
hue man foo style

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>>134154648

Meaning that pro-SAA tribes under ISIS control are starting the massive revolution, this will happen on Bukamal and Deir Ezzor as well when SAA reach the ourtskits of the city.

>>134154460
>implying ptg isn't filled to the brim with plebbitor and (((president-trump))) supporters
>implying election-trump supporters didn't move to /sg/

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>>134154871
> memeflag

>>134154772
Nice joke hue hue to be quite honest my momma do have nice ass

>>134154648
http://wikimapia.org/#lang=de&lat=35.883904&lon=39.022322&z=14&m=b&show=/30988594/Ittihad-University

It's not about the University. It's about its position. If they grabbed it, that means they're right at Raqqa

>>134154648
It is very strategic. Key terrain in its immediate surroundings.

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>>134154871
>Nigger using a Confed flag

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Please no bully nuFOP is on now

>>134154843
lol no
just look at the bullet wounds and where the body is facing
if it was a prisoner executed he would be facing the wall

>>134154921
>>134155077
>finally some /sg/ recognition
I knew you nerds would come around

>>134155106
Oh well, poor kid.

>>134154648
No one cares about the uni
now the SAA has friendly positions very close to raqqa

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>>134154871
>memeflag
>tries to fit in
>>>/pol/ptg

>>134154617
guys is he okay?

>>134154617
now i am 100% sure the incompetent iraqis are now just killing civilians as a revenage for not being able to take mosul sooner,
just look at the guy does he look like an isis fighter? look at his haircut if isis cought him with that they might even whip his ass.

>>134155094
oh shit nigger
why would anyone bully you
that shit was funny when i was smaller
Is it good?

>>134155206
he just need a little cup of water, lad

>>134155206
He is fine lad
just taking a nap

>>134155241
This.
That kid can't even grow a beard.

>>134155241
this x1000
and then they count them as isis militants to cover up and boost the numbers of isis killed

>>134155173
just post some lewd hezbos

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>>134154772

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Reminder

alright i'm of to sleep my niBBas
i'm curious about what will happen about the gainz right next to SDF territory

>>134155241

This is actually happening, that is why SAA is fucking great, because they make leave people and terrorist out of the sieges, but after that people return safely, look at fucking Al-Waer, 5000 people get out of there, 4000 returned after they reach Al-Bab.

>>134155251
Quite good back during the early seasons. The new godchild chloe ruins everything with politically correct agenda. But damn i want to dick her

>>134155492
It's pretty humiliating to take a year trying to conquer a city defended by 5000 militants. And it's not even geographically tough like how Sanaa in Yemen is.

>when all the butthurt ASSadists have to have their own safespace thread cuz the rest of /pol/ is wise to their plebbit garbage
feels good
how does it feel to know ur "LE BAZED COMMMIE SHITSKIN ASSAD XD" is going to be hanging upside down from a lamppost soon?

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>>134155770

Fuck off kid

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>134155770

>>134155348
>>134155492
>>134155681

not being able to take city without turning it to a heap of rubble and losing a lot of manpower while doing so can mess with a individual head.
they are only creating more hatred and sectarian violence through this i wouldn't be surprise if they still have terrorists attack even decades after removing isis.
saddam should have gassed them all.

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>>134155897
>Taking the bait
come on now lad

>>134155991
This
everytime we had trouble taking a land in the war
you can fucking bet war crimes were around the corner

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>>134155770

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>>134155770
Fuck off Assad is a benevolent secular dictator. Do you want a thousand abu bakar al baghdadis to pop up in syria if you depose assad? Uninformed swine thats what you are.

>>134155659
That list was written by an idiot.

>hold Aleppo
He didn't. He lost Aleppo (or most of it) and then tried to get it back (which he mostly did). That's not "holding a city".

>liberate Damascus
The regime never lost it.

>SSNP

Assad is already joining with SSNP.

>Assad will never eliminate ISIS

It's not him who's eliminating ISIS but US coalitions in both Iraq and Syria.

>throw out US troops

Impossible. If the US leaves, it will be its own decision.

>Baathism
>Greater Syria
Pick one.

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>all these people giving them (you)s
Stop it lads

>>134156197
>He didn't. He lost Aleppo (or most of it) and then tried to get it back (which he mostly did). That's not "holding a city".
Yes it is. The city was never lost to the enemy.
>The regime never lost it.
See, we agree.

>>134156103
what pisses me of the world treats the iraqis as some kind of heroes that dindu nuffin unlike the ebil syrians who use hospital seeking child attracting barrel bombs.
just compare the liberation of Aleppo with mosul even though the SAA was in very bad shape they liberated without any war crimes and didn't manage to kill half the civies.

>>134155897
>>134156147
>>134156155

>"kid"
hah hah coming from u reddit trash
all u edgelord plebbit teens are going to be so fun to laugh at when ur COMMIE hero is six feet under
when are u plebbit trash going to realize u are the minority u are HATED

going to be fun to watch ur "benevolent dictator" strung up by his own loving people who "love" him

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>>134156291
meh it's close to bed time and shitposting is all i have

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>>134156416

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>134156416
>hurr durr

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>>134156466
cool digits chilefascistbro

>>134153799
hello nippon anon.

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>>134156624

Not the first time i was right once

>>134156399
The regime never lost Damascus you retard. Learn to know that sentences written under a particular quote are response to that quote.

>The city was never lost to the enemy.

It was for all matters and purposes lost. Territory that you don't have can't be held. Most of the city was lost, hence most of it was not held. And since size matters, the statement the city was held is wrong.

>>134156466
>Chilebro
What the fuck?
When did you start posting again?
How is engineering school or are you out now?
havenet really seen you since the protests

>>134156812
SOrry i was shitposting else where

>>134156811
>It was for all matters and purposes lost. Territory that you don't have can't be held. Most of the city was lost, hence most of it was not held. And since size matters, the statement the city was held is wrong.
Oh, so the city was lost solely because you say so. Got it. What a convincing argument.

>>134156197
>Assad is already joining with SSNP
proofs?

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>>134156416
Here's your (you) shameless delusional faggot

>>134156863
>memeflag
:O

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>>134156787
it kills me that i miss seeing him shit up sg

>>134156953
>giving nu-pol my uncommon flag
id rather not lad

>>134156812

Today.

Also good, i pass everything this semester with efort and luck, jesus chirst Economy was almost impossible to recover, i was reproving that shit, but i studied severals hours and managed to pass it with the minimun, just like Research of Operation 2. The rest was fucking easy. In vacations till 26th of August

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>>134157005
Welcome back then frendo
Missed you alot
happy to see you back again

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>>134156974

I would rather have Onur that these fucking /ptg/fags

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>>134156291
hello sri lanka bro good/morning/day/night
whats up?

>>134156974
Onur never supported the kikes tho

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SDF/USA/YPG/MATTIS ON FUCKING SUICIDE WATCH!!!

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>>134157152
hello lad
finished lain
that was pretty heavy
not realyl sure what to think ttho

>>134156890
Facts say so. The argument is based on fact and is consistent. But you're too retarded to follow a simple argument.

But I'll help you out. This is how you try and argue against it: Argue that most of the city was not lost. In other words, attack the root of the argument.

>>134156892
https://english.al-akhbar.com/node/18502

>>134157347

Lain predicted everything on today's culture in Internet, is fucking scary when you remember that this show aired on 1999

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>>134157253

Have a beautiful, pure Raqqan morning.

>>134157253
RAQQA WHEN?

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>>134157469
>tfw assad brings back national socialism and all the MSM can do is say "ok now assad is OFFICIALLY HITLER"

>>134157347
if its to heavy to understand just do what i did and write all the sci-fi/pa-normal stuff off as fever dream/day dream/mental snap
makes the actual "meaning" of the show much easier to follow

>>134157380
>muh facts say so because I say so
Really, now?
>But I'll help you out. This is how you try and argue against it: Argue that most of the city was not lost. In other words, attack the root of the argument.
Surely you're not being serious right now? First you make the incorrect claim that Aleppo was lost, then begin this condescending, nonsensical act, with unbacked claims that amount to nothing but "I say so". You're a clown.

>>134157604
>muh Kurds are part of the Syrian people, pro Assad side fought mainly by Shia mercenaries from Afghanistan, Hezbollah and Iran. Meanwhile being saved by Russian intervention
>nationalism

Funny. I wonder how legitimate Nazis would have felt being insulted like this.

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>>134157604

Is funny, in Latin America commies sees Assad like a "Socialist" leader, when is actually the opposite to that, SSNP has many of the National Socalist thinking on their bases and also they have a free market for the private companies inside the country.

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>>134157636
didnt say it was too heavy
i understood what it was saying
just saying there is probably a lot people will and can speculate about

>>134157715
>Really, now?
Yes, really. Learn to read so I don't have to repeat myself.

>you make the incorrect claim that Aleppo was lost
For all matters and purposes, most of it was lost.

>begin this condescending
Go back to tumblr if you can't handle words on a taiwanese board for pedos and NEETs.

>that amount to nothing but "I say so"
Nah, that's your primitive attempt of reading. The problem is on your end.

>You're a clown
Clowns are actually funny, entertaining and are just acting. Retards like you are permanently damaged and are not acting.

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>"LELELELELEL ASSAD WILL NEVER REACH RAQQAH"
>*teleports behind Raqqah*
>Assad: Nothing personal kid

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>>134157954
>For all matters and purposes, most of it was lost.
Yes, MOST. Most is not the same as the entire thing. You are smart enough to understand this, so why do you claim to the contrary? Would you say that Stalingrad was lost to the Germans, just because they held the majority of it?
Aleppo was NEVER lost to the enemy. They may have held most of the city area, but the defenders held to the end, until they were relieved by the SAA. The defence held, it was never lost.
>Go back to tumblr if you can't handle words on a taiwanese board for pedos and NEETs.
I am calling you a retard for being condescending when you are objectively wrong and seemingly too dumb to even realise it.

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going thru old sg memes feels so comfy

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>>134158151

This was the maximum gains that FSA/Nusra made in Aleppo City, after that, Operation Northern Storm chaged that.

>>134158151
>falling for a weak leaf bait

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>>134158207

People that will never show up again...

>>134158341
I want to meet the spergs that failed that and the other spergs that recovered from that.

>>134158151
>>134158151
>Yes, MOST. Most is not the same as the entire thing
Like I said "For all matters and purposes".
Most of the city not being held means you essentially lost it.

Retards like you will think pockets of resistance is "holding the city".

>>134158151
>Would you say that Stalingrad was lost to the Germans
Nigger, the battle was one year in duration. Whatever majority they got was faced with a counter offensive that crumbled Nazi ruled relatively quickly. Your comparison, like your capacity to understand, is shit.

>They may have held most of the city area, but the defenders held to the end,
Defenders surviving is not the same thing as holding a city. Again, the reality pockets of resistance destroy your argument.

>hurr durr you're retarded! retard! Clown and retard! Stop hurting muh feelings!

Your hands are reaching farther than they can grasp and you don't have the sense to know any better.

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>>134158747

>>134154044
Oh no, as long as Assad is there, they can't achieve their goal. They will get rid of him sooner or later.

Now they are just preparing for the next phase, this is why they lay down on the "Assad must go" narrative. Phase 2 consists of using Kurds to get rid of Assad, like what they tried to do with rebels, but now it is better prepared and more attractive to the average Western citizen (muh Democrat equal gender unibrownists!!)

As long as US has its bases in Syria, Assad stays threatened. They would get rid of Assad, and I am sure they will use the Kurds, as you have noticed, the Kurds have been getting a lot of positive coverage by the media exactly like rebels have had in 2016. Now a gas attack or a mass killing of kurdish babies would give a strong good reason for the people to support "Assad must go" plan, don't you think so?

>>134155241
That Because so many Daesh shave their beard to escape, then they shot Iraqi Army from behind battle lines.
http://archive.is/kiugo

>>134158464
Did they died? Except for you Chilebro

>>134152457
Plz stop my dick can only get so hard! God I want to see kurdshit blood reignite the desert plains to a beautiful oasis

>>134153755

Bless you. Hail Assad!

>>134158822

Gones, doxxed, killed or just left /pol/, i'm here for /sg/ mostly, nu-/pol/ is fucking garbage, also i'm fighting commies soros-backed libtards in Chile so the international affairs can wait a little.

>>134158779
Not an argument.

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>barely taller than assad's wife
>your supporters still call you "tall man"
T*RKLETS

>>134158781
Why can't assad just let russia to place their military base to fight the US instead? Is it matter of sovereignty? US has placed ground troops that is in violation of syria sovereignty

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>>134159043

Exactly, Canada doesn't need arguments anymore

>>134158974
Godspeed Chilebro. Bring back the glory days of Pinochet.

>>134156414
Because so many Masalwi (Mosul People) especially in Western Mosul greet & celebrate ISIS when Fall of Mosul 2014, Iraqi never forget about that, even Iraqi Sunnis outside Mosul

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>>134158747
>Most of the city not being held means you essentially lost it.
No it doesn't. Not holding most of the city means you lost most of the city, but not the entire thing.
The SAA still had a major presence in the city and the defense held. To lose something in a conflict means to actually lose it. No presence, no defense, it's fallen into the hands of the enemy. No such thing happened to Aleppo and no matter how many times you claim to the contrary, it will not be true.
>Retards like you will think pockets of resistance is "holding the city".
>pockets of resistance
Take a gander at the image >>134158341 that's more than just pockets. That's a solid defense that held against the enemy. Being besieged is not the same thing as losing whatever ground you are holding.
>Your comparison, like your capacity to understand, is shit.
It's an apt comparison and has been done before. It's a siege of a major city that got relieved by the defenders, breaking the momentum of the enemy and eventually leading to their deffeat.
>Defenders surviving is not the same thing as holding a city.
Defenders holding a great deal of ground decisively and stopping the enemy from advancing is not just "pockets of resistance".

>Your hands are reaching farther than they can grasp and you don't have the sense to know any better.
I am not the one claiming that being besieged is the same thing as losing a city. You are the one grasping at straws, almost desperately trying to defend your mistake, instead of just admitting it.

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>>134158464

GOD BLESS ASSAD
GOD BLESS THE SAA

>>134158781
Kurds in Syria have an incredible image. There's no need to fabricate any attack (not that it would work anyway, most conspiracy theories are retarded).

All you need is just having Kurds enter an open war with Assad regime. The issue is that the Kurds don't want that because then they'll have to deal with multiple enemies.

Quite interestingly enough, Assad's biggest blessing right now is Turkey. If Turkey tomorrow says that the Kurds in Syria are good guys too, Assad is fucked. Of course that won't happen.

>>134154044
Trump won't get impeached because he killed a Middle Eastern dictator.

>>134159242

Follow Jose Antonio Kast in Chile, that guy have military support and also is very redpilled.

>>134158781
If that narrative didn't work with the rebels, I don't see why it would work with the kurds

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>>134158464
Deepy still lurks
Comfy MD changed his name to something and i think stil shit posts
RIP leaf
RIP houthi
Aleppo syrian is still around i think
I kinda feel depressed
wonder what those pople are doing with their lives
hope they still drop in and lurk a little
i genuinely miss them so much

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>>134159612

I'm here waiting to Houthibro comes back when Houthis take Najran from the KSA

>>134159242
>bring back the glory days of pinochet
>glory days
>pinochet
yeaaaahhhh.. a two decade long military junta which destroyed workers rights and and managed to convince retarded lolbertarians that their shit ideas worked by ironically nationalizing Major industries dosent seem like my idea of "glory days" but ehh to each his own

>>134159759
Yeah, but anon. Throwing commies out of helicopters.

>>134159248
>No it doesn't.
Yes it does. Or else the rebels are still holding Aleppo because there are still parts of it under Rebel control.

Checkmate, retard. Again, the idea of pockets of resistance destroy your shitty argument. Pick and choose any city in Syria or any war theatre that has pockets of resistance, including rebel pockets. According to your stupidity, rebels are holding those cities even though Assad has control of most of them.

>that's more than just pockets
Subjective interpretation. Pockets are still pockets. Your sandnigger didn't have the majority of the city. You can't change that fact.

>>134159248
>It's a siege of a major city that got relieved by the defenders, breaking the momentum of the enemy and eventually leading to their deffeat
In the span of a year, making your argument shit. Also comparing European warfare of the mid 20th century with shitty wars by Syrians is heavily insulting and shows you know nothing of war and some of its complexities.


>Defenders holding a great deal of ground decisively and stopping the enemy from advancing is not just "pockets of resistance".
A minority of territory is not a great deal of ground. Great is more than a majority, by definition.

>I am not the one claiming that being besieged is the same thing as losing a city
Being besieged on the outer skirts of the city isn't losing a city and it's not what I'm talking about. And it's also not what Aleppo was. You're doing a strawman fallacy, indicative of your inability to produce any logical argument.

>You are the one grasping at straws
Oh look a projection coming from a very desperate disturbed soul. Color me surprised. Remember, Jesus still loves you.

>>134159259

Amem

>>134159082
It is not whether Assad let Russia open bases or not. Russia has already enough bases to "support" (remember this is a key word) the war against terrorists. Also unlike the US, Russia doesn't have infinite amount of ressources that allow it to maintain multiple bases. American military spending is so far higher than the other countries is 100% due military bases costs.

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>>134159747
H..houthi bro is a in a coma lad
and most likely dead
He isnt coming back

>>134158974
truth be told, I think that this site will continue going downhill as long as /b/ remains dead. /b/ was the heart and soul of this place, once it became unusable around 2012 and Chanology the rest of the site slowly degraded with it. Events like Gamergate and the election only made things worse and accellerated the decline.

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>>134159759

Now Bachelet restored the workers right, and the economy went to shit again.

>>134159384
>The issue is that the Kurds don't want that because then they'll have to deal with multiple enemies.

When they have the US behind them, they don't have to think about number of enemies no? It worked with Israel, why don't you think it will work with Kurds?

I am 100% sure tabqa or raqqa will be subject of a big event which will be a reason of US full military involvement in the area "against terrorists"

US has already hinted about it when they said "to support liberating Deir Ezzour which is controlled by terrorists" in one of their statements.

>>134159082
Because you're a retard. Seriously, that's the answer.

Russia before the war: A bunch of civies operating the base and barely any military activity there.

Russia after the war: A little more but nothing as serious as American military even in random countries.

The idea that Russia went to war for its love of Assad, or because they care about the naval base is ridiculous.Russia is in Syria because Putin wants to boost his image at home. Despite what people say, he is not invincible. Russia's opinion of Putin has gone down significantly.

When you understand that Russia little adventure in Syria is nothing more than for domestic politics. Then you understand that having a massive surge of troops is counter productive. Massive surge of troops result in more Russians in body bags. That's not a good thing for Putin.

Also it's good to reminder Putin is not some mastermind and is actually better at bluffing. Russia lost Ukraine to the West. That's the most severe fuckup of Russia since the collapse of the Soviet Union.

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>>134160014

I dedicate to you, my dear Chilebro, this version of the hate symbol of Extreme Right Brazilian.

#PraiseEd #StandWithProerdiaEmpire

I'm going to sleep, charlie nigger is boring as hell

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>>134159927

That's why i don't like coming here, GG and the elections where damm good, they joined /pol/ but when the shit goes to the public eyes, the newfags doesn't know how to act here. I see many of the new guys here in /pol/ like kids who only came for the memes and just shitpost because "le funny shitposting is great, le praise kek, kekistan lelele".

I don't know, i miss the wikileaks searchs or how to fuck up with some GG tumblrs back in 2014.

>>134160241
fucking furries are the first to get helicopter rides

>>134160310
Good night lad

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>>134160168
>Russia lost Ukraine to the West

I hate when literal retards pretend they know about what they are talking about

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>>134160340
>/pol/ will be /b/ tier in a few years
Fame is a killer in itself

>>134160345
>fucking furries are the first to get helicopter rides

I know huehuehuehue

But here Ed is treated as a hate symbol

>>134160310
Good night, bro

>>134160128
For one, Kurds are not Jews. More importantly, Turks are not as incompetent as Egyptians, Jordanians and Syrians. And Israel had its West essentially not available for invasion by its enemies. They had to worry about NorthEast, the East and the South. Kurds have to worry about literally every side. They will be severely outflanked.

What is worse for Kurds is that they don't even have an airforce.

>When they have the US behind them,
The extant of such help is questionable. The US big cock may cum sometimes when it thinks about a Kurdish woman with an AK but it's the US brain that makes decisions. No matter how irrational America seems, it actually behaves rather predictable. America interest is above anything in the region is securing its access to water ways. Turkey is too important to risk anything over a bunch of mountain dwellers (No offense to Kurds).

US support of Kurds is entirely for them to defeat ISIS and prevent ISIS from coming back. But that doesn't mean they'll support war against Turkey.

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>>134160168
>Russia lost Ukraine to the West.
Must be hard being this stupid lad

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>>134160241

I pray for Temer to keep trolling the left in Brazil, he seems to be a based guy, corrupt too but also based.

>>134159795
>>134160014
>muh helicopter commies
well yeah
but the fact he killed a few thousand radical socialists/communists dosent really excuse the fact he was a corpratist whose entire job was essentially just to funnel money to the rich of the nation while simultaneously stripping the poor of workers rights/ rights to organize etc
all the while giving giving lolbertarians the idea their retard tier idealist idea work b claiming to believe in "free markets" while simultaneously nationalizing a large amount of the nations industry

>Now Bachelet restored the workers right, and the economy went to shit again
i understand that sometimes unions/labor movements/parties in some countries can be borderline abusive and DO hold back the economy to some extent
but i m o maintaining a basic standard of living is much more important then maximizing economic growth

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>>134160168

>Ukraine is lost to west

Hohol refugee detected

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Is this the future of the middle east?

Or will America discover another ""chemical weapons attack"" and eliminate Syria before such an alliance can be formed?

>>134160412
I don't care if I hurt your feelings there, dumbass. Russia lost Ukraine to the West. This is undeniable. An important buffer zone for Russia has been lost.

Just because Ukraine hasn't joined EU or NATO right away doesn't mean the West is not the more dominant influence in Ukraine.

>>134160706
>I don't care if I hurt your feelings there, dumbass. Russia lost Ukraine to the West. This is undeniable.
I deny it.

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>>134160628

How about you take your damm (((Humans Right))) out of here?

>>134160701
>Armenia and Azerbaidjan in alliance
You clearly have no idea what's going on in the region.

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Wew Lads..
So Many Iraqi General was Former Baathist Officer.

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>>134159800
>Yes it does. Or else the rebels are still holding Aleppo because there are still parts of it under Rebel control.
The rebels cannot still hold Aleppo, because they never held it in the first place. They hold areas of it, yes, but not the city, as a distinct settlement itself. Aleppo never fell from the hands of the government.
>Again, the idea of pockets of resistance destroy your shitty argument
No it does not.
>According to your stupidity, rebels are holding those cities even though Assad has control of most of them.
No.
If the rebels never held the city in the first place, they are not holding it now.
If the resistance of the rebels is marginal, irrelevant and limited to a single block, they are not holding the city.
The defense in Aleppo held a large part of the city and was continuous and organized. The city was not lost, but instead the siege was lifted.
>didn't have the majority of the city. You can't change that fact.
I never said the SAA held the majority of the city, but that the city was never lost to the enemy, which is true. Capturing a part of a city does not count as capturing the city itself. To degenerate the argument to food analogies; eating a part of an apple is not the same thing as eating an apple.
Your original argument was that Aleppo was lost, not that a majority of it was.
>In the span of a year, making your argument shit
Why is the timespan relevant?
>Also comparing European warfare of the mid 20th century with shitty wars by Syrians is heavily insulting
Then go back to Tumblr if you can't handle it. :^)
>and shows you know nothing of war and some of its complexities.
Explain the argumentation behind this ludicrous statement, please. How does making a comparison imply I have no knowledge of military matters?
>Great is more than a majority, by definition.
Find me this definition in a dictionary.
> You're doing a strawman fallacy
Are you saying Aleppo was not besieged? Please rectify my strawman if you call it out.

>>134160588
>I pray for Temer to keep trolling the left in Brazil, he seems to be a based guy, corrupt too but also based.

He's trolling too late.

He approved a Labor Reform (something that leftists hated, because Labor Laws for the Brazilian Left is like the Christian bible or the (((torah))) for (((Jews))), you understand?) And now it is planning A tax Reform to completely destroy the federative system and give autonomy to the cities.

As the old saying goes: "He steals, but does"

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>>134160852

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>>134160706

I deny it

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>>134160701
>Armneia fighting with roach 2.0s

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>>134160852
Lt. Gen. Abdel Wahab Al-Saadi

>>134160798
>people having the right to form workers unions voluntarily and the right to not be treated like its the industrial revolution-era and being worked till they drop dead is am israeli trick

>>134160862

Same with Piñera, but left here want to raise taxes to the companies like retards and the actual Labor Law is a fucking Sharia Law were the worker can win or win, leaving the bussiness weak against the workers.

Piñera is also corrupt, but at least, he give us a damm boots with works and money to everyone, like, i don't know, HOW THE FUCKING GOVERMENT SHOULD WORK.

>>134160578
>>134160693
See this >>134160706 It applies you dumbasses as well.

>>134160701
>Russia is an ally of Iran

That map made me laugh. Thank you. Anyway, one of US goal is stopping any hegemony from taking pretty much the whole region. So that's not going to happen anytime soon. Turkey will rise because good geographical positions and it will try to stabilize the region, which will strengthen it. Iran and Saudi's future is uncertain. Syria will remain a failed state and won't get rebuilt. Don't listen to the bitching of people here, it's delusional. Iraq could remain a fail state. I won't comment on Kurdistan attempt to leave other than to say it's already technically it's own country as Peshmerga have been stopping people from entering. It's not one country when people from one region can't go to another one.

Yemen seems to remain a failed stated or will pacify but will split into North and South. Oman will be neutral and stable like before. Qatar will have to bend over to Saudis and Emiratis. UAE will keep being UAE but demographics look painful (too many foreign marriages). Jordan has Palestinian problem waiting to blow up. Kuwait will probably suck up to Saudi. Israel will continue to exist and defend itself. Lebanon will continue to be a failed country.

Egypt will have continuous internal problems.

Saudi and Israel's relations will get better.

https://twitter.com/worldonalert/status/887477936198213632

Can we get this guy reported? He might need a break from tweeting

Also
>Germany
Colour me suprised

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>>134160701
No

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>>134161114

If you at least read economy once, that isn't the deal, because the workers are the one who consume the products made by the companies. So, both need excedent to keep consuming. If you slow down the economy, then you're actually making the workers lives worse.

>Hurr durr every company treat the workers like fucking slaves, save me communism

kys

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>>134161147

>My proof is my own opinion

>>134161124
>Same with Piñera, but left here want to raise taxes to the companies like retards and the actual Labor Law is a fucking Sharia Law were the worker can win or win, leaving the bussiness weak against the workers.

This sums up the situation in Brazil today. 4/5 of the world's labor lawsuits are made here, if I am not mistaken.

And well ... We have predictions for a general economic downturn for 2018 ~ 2019.

That is if China does not break before and drag 50% of the Brazilian States with it.

>>134156197
>Impossible. If the US leaves, it will be its own decision.
Just like Vietnam!

>>134161555

Also this, Bachelet leave us engaged with China, but then Shangai said "We're going to grow 6% annual" everything broke in Chile.

>>134161147
Is this your first time trying to critically analyze geopolitics or are you trolling?

Literally google Russia Iran relations, I'm not even going to bother with the rest of your shitpost.

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>>134161716

>"W-we d-didn't lose in Vietnam, we just leave"

>>134161782
>Also this, Bachelet leave us engaged with China, but then Shangai said "We're going to grow 6% annual" everything broke in Chile.

Sadness_and_Sorrow.txt

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>>134160855
>The rebels cannot still hold Aleppo, because they never held it in the first place.
But they held most of it and they still have pockets of resistance. So they did hold it according to your idiocy.

>They hold areas of it, yes, but not the city, as a distinct settlement itself.

Neither did the regime.

>No it does not.
Yes it does.

>No.
Yes.

>If the rebels never held the city in the first place
All acts have a beginning, your assertion is logically incoherent.

>If the resistance of the rebels is marginal, irrelevant and limited to a single block
Oh, so like the Assad presence in Aleppo.


>but instead the siege was lifted.
It's not a siege when most of the city is not under Assad control. It's a conquest. The sieges are of particular pockets of the city.

>>134160855
>eating a part of an apple is not the same thing as eating an apple.
Eating most of the apple and leaving the core left is eating the apple.

You know you're retarded when you make an analogy that completely backfires and proves you wrong.

>Why is the timespan relevant?
Time is always relevant. It's an undeniable axiom.

>Then go back to Tumblr if you can't handle it. :^)
>nazis are from Tumblr

Your dumbass can't even bant right.

>How does making a comparison imply I have no knowledge of military matters?
Well for one you think time doesn't matter.

>Find me this definition in a dictionary.
Oh look it's the appeal to dictionary fallacy. But here: "of an extent, amount, or intensity considerably above the normal or average."

In case you didn't know, majority is at least more than average.

>Are you saying Aleppo was not besieged
I never said Aleppo was besieged. Traditionally, besieging means being outside of the city, to surround it.

Anyway, your apple analogy proves me right. Look at that core pocket of resistance. The apple isn't holding.

>>134157469
>https://english.al-akhbar.com/node/18502
This just says the SSNP supports Assad, not that Assad has joined up with them.

>>134161950

Truly sad, my dad lost his work during that time, we're doing some shit right now with a tiny company not for having tons of money, but to suvirve. We're hopping that Piñera win to make this country grow up again, but Bachelet want to keep going with his shit of free education and that could lead us to not having National Saves for future projects.

>>134160787
>>134160910
Cool, your opinion doesn't matter. Virtually all geopolitical analysts agree that Russia lost Ukraine from its control.
>>134161538
>strawmanning this hard

>>134161812
You're retarded desu. Iran and Russia aren't allies. Allies veto sanctions or international efforts against you in the UN.

>I'm not even going to bother with the rest
Of course not, it's far too complicated for a simpleton like you to understand.

Here's a fact: 100% of anything you know about the middle East that isn't primary school knowledge is bullshit. In fact, I'd question your primary school knowledge of the Middle East.

But this isn't something just in /pol/ though. People are very ignorant of the region.

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>>134161995

Countryside General, is that you?

>>134162055
I don't know if we're speaking two different languages but "joining up" means entering an alliance. SSNP allying with Assad means Assad is joining up with SSNP.

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>>134162204

>"You're retarded desu. Iran and Russia aren't allies."

>>134162214
No. I just want Syria's war to go on for decades to come and for the Middle East to not be united under any hegemony.

>>134161456
>Hurr durr every company treat the workers like fucking slaves, save me communism
>implying im a communist
>impling literally anyone who believes in workers rights is a commie
not a com mate

>then you're actually making the workers lives worse
i dont honestly believe that mate
i think that most standards for measuring quality of life around the world have proven that most nations that have embraced the idea of rights for workers and a social state are miles ahead of their neighbours
standard of living in nations that have these systems in place are miles ahead of all their competitors
a minimum wage adjusted for inflation DOES help people
a social state to make sure people arent on the streets or going hungry works

idealist fantasy-land idea like communism/lolbertaiansim DONT work

lolbertaianism cant work just like communism and anarchism cant work because people are fucking greedy and sometimes they need to be told when to share with their fellow man

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>>134162350

>>134162342
>title from Fake News website

That's cute. Come back when Russia actually vetoes for Iran, signs a mutual defense treaty with it or does things ally uniquely do.

>>134152549
We're pulling out sooner than anyone realises. The SAA already took all the oil in Raqqa.

>>134162468
Oh I forgot. I also wants Israel to be continuously at war.

>>134161995
>>but instead the siege was lifted.
>It's not a siege when most of the city is not under Assad control. It's a conquest. The sieges are of particular pockets of the city.
Over two thirds of Aleppo's population lived in the government-held part of it. Geographically, the rebels owned around half of the land, sometimes more, but they never had most of the population.

>>134160706
Well. I don't think we lost Ukraine yet. Ukraine right now at crossroad. Because we get tired of their cripple russophobia for past decades (for the love of God don't label Yanukovich as pro-Russia guy). Now people must choose either they are balts v2 i.e. land from where invasion will come or they our brothers. If former then our military can take necessary preparation and increase defence there if later then Ukraine will get immune to russophobia for quite long time.

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>>134162365

You talk like a normativefag.

>>134162145

Ow, bro.

Here we are betting between Bolsonaro (An Ex-Army Captain and Deputy whom the Media and the artists call Nazi / Fascist / Homophobic / Isolationist) and Ciro Gomes (A Pseudo-Nationalist, Keynesian, Ally of the Chinese Communist Party)

Between them I prefer Bolsonitro (his nickname here), but I wanted Enéas (The Last Truly Nacionalist) to be alive or the Vargas Family (Nacionalists) or The Bragança (Imperial Family) was active in the political environment.

>>134162269
The SSNP putting their support behind Assad doesn't mean Assad is going to support them though. It also doesn't mean SSNP policies will be accepted and put into effect. That is not how politics works.

Who knows what will happen once ISIS and other Wahabi threats are defeated. Assad may look favourably upon the SSNP and their support and allow them to continue functioning. Or he may see them as a potential future threat to the stability of Syria and will take measures to weaken them, though I doubt it.

Basically I want to have Assad himself say that the SSNP are allies and will help build a better future for Syria. No sense getting hype about things that aren't happening yet.

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>>134161995
>But they held most of it and they still have pockets of resistance. So they did hold it according to your idiocy.
No. I just told you that according to my logic, to still hold a city, you needed to hold the entire thing at the start. If the city was never in their posession, then they cannot still hold it. To hold something, it had to have been in your posession.
>Neither did the regime.
The regime held the city prior to the siege.
They continued defending it and the defense of the city held, so thus they held the city. They did not lose the city in its entirety, or close to it, so they held it against the enemy.
>It's not a siege when most of the city is not under Assad control. It's a conquest.
That is incorrect. Are you Québécois by any chance?
>to gain or acquire by force of arms : subjugate conquer territory
>to overcome by force of arms : vanquish conquered the enemy
The rebels never conquered Aleppo.
>Eating most of the apple and leaving the core left is eating the apple.
There was more left than just the core of Aleppo. The West side of the city as well as the international airport were held.
>Well for one you think time doesn't matter.
In the context of the comparison I made. That has nothing to do with military knowledge or proficiency, when I was comparing the general and strategic situation and not the operational and tactical similiarities.
>Oh look it's the appeal to dictionary fallacy
No. You claimed that the definition of a word is something and I asked you to prove it. That is not a fallacy.
This was a digression, since I used the term "a great deal of", which is synonymous to "a large amount of", not the word "great" by itself. It is true that the SAA held a large amount of ground in the city.

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>>134162475
>>134162526

Yet you support Israel Main objective.

>>134162850
Don't encourage it, it's a pseudo intellectual leaning too far on the pseudo part.

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>>134151536

/hruifront/ anon here. Haven't posted in a while but have been monitoring bread. Listening to radio chatter ISIS is getting very nervous about the prospect of losing the Cafe. Here is the latest map.

>>134162744

The last nationalist here is Jose Antonio Kast and he has military support also. He went full retard saying "Fuck LGTBQSAA" and people call him nazi now.

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>>134162991

>>134162342
True, the actually ally of Iran was China, they have Defence Pact, if Foreign Country Attack Iran Oil & Gas, China will sent Military to Iran. btw, 10% of China Oil & Gas was Supplied by Iran.
Iran Doesn't Think so Much to Russia.

>>134162804

Would it not be wise to unite the points where the Government dominates slowly, in addition to interrupting the replenishment flow of supplies from the Rebels and finally begin to flank them?

>>134162572
With the massive waves of refugees, most of the population was under rebel control especially 2013 onward. Until 2015-2016 when that significantly shifted.

>>134162637
Russia is fighting in a tiny part of Ukraine in the East.

Yanukovich was pretty much under Russian control. He may have said bad things in public but many of his actions had to be approved by Russia. He is mostly of Russian descent.

I don't think you understand what Yanukobich being pro Russia means. It doesn't mean Ukraine at the time of his office called itself Russia or saw Russia as its brother. Russia hope for Ukraine was that it serves as a buffer zone between Russia and Western aligned countries. This sin't the case now that Ukraine is becoming Western aligned.

>>134162804
You already lost the argument. The apple analogy perfectly captures why you're wrong. Eating the whole apple doesn't mean leaving not a single particle behind.

Honestly, you should have started with the apple analogy. It would save more time to show how much more of an idiot I thought you were.

>>134162850
>Israels' objective is to be at war constantly

Yet, you're dumb.

>>134162991
Nah. I'm just so much more intelligent than you that you can't possible know why one would want the Middle East to be divided. It's actually quite obvious but you're too incompetent.

You know Westerners have completely fallen out of grace when basic policy that's in their interest has to be explained to them.

>>134162739
>when you cant rebuke someones arguments so u laugh them off as joking to maintain ur Utopian fantasy of an ideology

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>>134162342
Chilebro you gotta remember that Iran after the revolution sought to become entirely self sufficient. As such they pissed off not just the US and allies, but also the Soviet sphere. This policy of self sufficiency continued after the fall of the Soviet Union for a while. Only recently has Iran sought to garner trade and technical support from foreign nations. Russia being the main supplier of such.

However neither nation are allies yet. Their relations are improving, they have similar interests in seeing the US influence in the region diminished. But that is as far as it goes.

See this news story from WaPo is not about informing readers about the strong alliance Russia and Iran have. It's to try and deceive readers into thinking there is one. Because they have shilled that Iran is the biggest threat to the US in the region, so tying Russia in with them, it makes Russia seem like bigger badguys.
It's classic propaganda, use a truth (there is a budding relationship between Russia and Iran) and turn it into a lie (there is an unbreakable alliance between Russia and Iran)

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>>134162350
Stay mad moshe

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>>134163066

You mean this?

>>134163197
>It's actually quite obvious but you're too incompetent.

Go on

>>134159927
Sites change all the damn time and new memes come and go. it's all a part of the way things are.

>>134163307
Nah. I'll just watch as you helplessly try to guess by using the little amount of synapses you have left.

I'll ask one thing though: Make me laugh real good. It's 3 AM right now and I'm bored.

Here let's start. I'll give you a hint: History. But not just 50 or 70 year old history.

>>134163022
Bolsonitro also has military support and tendencies to be Nationalist, but given the size of the Brazilian state and the tax burden (in addition to the Semi-Civil War against Drug Trafficking and Left Terrorist Organizations), the most he talks about economics Is the sale of Niobium and graphene, in addition to the fact of taking Brazil from Mercosur (which for him is a dead weight)

>>134163298
>You mean this?

Yes that's right

>>134163418

Go on

>>134162055
Hey Curacao is back, Mossad let you out of their blacksite for the evening?

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Threadly reminder that /pol/ has always been pro-Israel. Please take you antisemitism elsewhere.

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>>134163197
>Eating the whole apple doesn't mean leaving not a single particle behind.
That is not applicable to the situation in Aleppo, as the maps posted clearly show you. You are extremely dishonest if you claim that eating half an apple is the same thing as eating an apple.
The rebels only ever held half of the city itself and around a third of the population at most.
>Honestly, you should have started with the apple analogy. It would save more time to show how much more of an idiot I thought you were.
I probably should have, yes, since your argumentation so far consists of "no, it's so because I say so", insults and a bunch of logically erroneus and unbacked claims. Also contrary to what you yourself earlier were "advising" me to do, you refuse to even attempt to refute the core of the argument. I doubt you're even capable of making a solid one yourself.

>>134163489
I told you you to check history and already gave you a hint that it's the West interest.

I didn't take special needs education so I can't really help you more.

>>134163607

Go on

>>134163607
Go on, I know you can't resist to show us how smart you are.

>>134163607
Teach me daddy

>>134163491
Been moving, plus shit slowed down and threads were nothing but boring shitposting.
After Kuweires, Aleppo and Palmyra, everything else just seems so small in comparison you know.

But the Night Ride to Deir is something that can not be missed. If the assault on Sukhnah has indeed begun, that means we get to hear that coin drop real soon.

>>134152227
Lol Palestinians making terror attacks, we put metal detectors in order to prevent them,
then they say "IF TEMPLE MOUNT SECURITY MEASURES REMAIN, 'WE WILL SEE AN EXPLOSION'"
Meh just massacre the Palestinians

have I posted in this thread or is this a new thread?

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>>134163551
>>134163551
>if you claim that eating half an apple is the same thing as eating an apple.
More like 75 to 80ish percent.

>The rebels only ever held half of the city itself and around a third of the population at most.
Source: Your ass.

>"no, it's so because I say so"
Bastardization of arguments is a strawman fallacy and it only shows that you're incapable of arguing.

>logically erroneus
You wouldn't know what that means. You can't even write erroneous right. Heck, I had to teach you what "Great" means.

>>134163551
>you refuse to even attempt to refute the core of the argument.
But I did. The apple analogy perfectly captures it. Furthermore so does the fact that the existence of pockets of resistance demonstrate that your claim of holdings are nonsensical.

Heck, I don't even have to say anything more. I can use your own statements to show how wrong your previous claims are. It's amazing how an incoherent idiot like you can be of help.

The problem with you is that I have to tell you basic definition of words. It's like arguing with a uneducated villager. You have to keep telling them what every word means because simply language is apparently too complicated for them.

>>134163654
Earth to dumbass, earth to dumbass:

When I say you're dumb, I'm saying it's impossible for you to understand.

>>134160706
The thing that your little brain fails to understand, Ukraine was a lost cause from the start. The KIKES are too deep in it to do anything about it. Instead of risking a war, Russia just opted for the better solution: You can take that poor ass country, just let me take the richest part of it with it's trading port and shit. Then Russia successfully annexed Crimea without war or anything, something that US has never done in its history.

A dumb armchair analyst like you cannot understand how geopolitics work. Stop embarrassing yourself and lurk before engaging into discussing something that you fail to understand.

>>134163197
>Russia is fighting in a tiny part of Ukraine in the East.
You are wrong.
>Yanukovich was pretty much under Russian control.
You are wrong. But then again.
>many of his actions had to be approved by Russia.
>initiated EU-Ukraine agreements from which he tried to back off but got coup on his head instead
Are you even aware what you are talking about?
>I don't think you understand what Yanukobich being pro Russia means.
I don't think you understand what cripple russophobia means.
>Russia hope for Ukraine was that it serves as a buffer zone between Russia and Western aligned countries.
Nah. Since we won't be invaded by convenient forces buffer zones are not worth much anymore. Old concept.

>>134160701
>Implying Armenia will side with Azarbaijan

>>134164051
Go on

>>134163886
What if they blow themselves up and end up destroying their own holy sites?

>>134163551
Not for nothing, but I love this image: 3

>>134163886

Why waste time supporting Israelis or Palestinians when we can remake the Byzantine Empire?

>>134164055
>hurr durr Kikes

You know your argument is shit when you already start blaming the JOOS.

>Ukraine was a lost cause from the start
So they did lose Ukraine. Good that you have conceded. That was quick.

>You can take that poor ass country, just let me take the richest part of it with it's trading port and shit
It's not a buffer zone that it was between Russia and the West. Having Crimea isn't enough.
>A dumb armchair analyst
A good title for you posts.

Infighting happening?

https://twitter.com/AlDorarAlShamia/status/887551104485126144
https://twitter.com/BilalKareem/status/887569954295488513

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>Bilal Abdul Kareem

>War between HTS & Ahrar seems imminent. Roads cut between Idlib & Sarmada, checkpoints everywhere, Sarmada considered military zone

https://twitter.com/BilalKareem/status/887569954295488513

>>134163197
>I don't think you understand what Yanukobich being pro Russia means. It doesn't mean Ukraine at the time of his office called itself Russia or saw Russia as its brother. Russia hope for Ukraine was that it serves as a buffer zone between Russia and Western aligned countries. This isn't the case now that Ukraine is becoming Western aligned.
Yanukovich was only pro-Russian during election time to get those Eastern votes. In anything that actually mattered, he was either neutral (i.e. pro-money) or pro-EU. For example, he never did anything about the minority Russian language rights (imagine if government use of French was illegal in Canada, and schools in Quebec had to use English). He was always set on signing the economic deal with the EU, and only backed out at the last minute when his government bureaucrats told him that it was going to cost the country $160 billion. Lots of people are unaware of that little detail: http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/war-in-ukraine-a-result-of-misunderstandings-between-europe-and-russia-a-1004706-2.html

Once he backed out, the EU and US supported the coup against him while the Russian top leadership was distracted with the Olympics.

Yes, Ukraine has definitely moved into the pro-Western camp (even though the continuing issues with Donbass, Crimea and Transnistria, plus the pro-Russian side ascending in Moldova, still prevent it joining NATO for now). But it was never pro-Russian before that, not under any of its presidents.

>>134160577
>For one Kurds are not Jews

What does that have to do with the actual events?

The west is trying to carve a country out of another country, exactly like they did with Israel. Turkey can do nothing about it, having a proxy state there dramatically boosts the western presence in the area, further weakening the resistance axis at the same time gaining total control of the economy there.

You are overestimating Turkey, it is already surrounded by US vassal states (European countries) So if Turkey tries to attack the USA it will get destroyed in a month.

Israel and the GCC are also supporting the creation of the kurdish state while at the same time they are in very bad terms with the resistance axis, is this coincidence? I don't think so

>>134164265
>muh israel dindu nuthin ur craze
6/10
u were going good but u blew it
6/10 emus

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Greater Turkey soon

>>134164429
>>134164428
>>134164365
>>134164063
>>134163652
>>134163551

DO you niggers realize that you're talking to charlie india alpha ?
stop giving this retard (you)'s

>>134164063
>You are wrong.
Oh really? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Donbass

>You are wrong.
Nah, I'm right.

>Are you even aware what you are talking about?
Yes. Sometimes reality is strange. From the brainwashed Russian citizen perspective, I'm not surprised by your reaction.

>>134164063
>I don't think you understand what cripple russophobia means.
I do but like many things Russians bitch and moan about: They're exaggerated. Anyway, I don't tend to care for things that end with -phobia suffix that aren't clinic terms.
>Since we won't be invaded by convenient forces buffer zones are not worth much anymore. Old concept.
Not anytime soon. But the difference between let's say idiots like you and your rulers who are somehow smart at the very least is that they don't just think 5 or 10 years from now. They plan for longer. Fortunately, they are also only human. They didn't predict Ukraine getting away from Russia's sphere of influence.

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>>134164537

Yes, there only 2 leaf who support Israel here, Alawi Genocide When? and Alpha

>>134164063
>Are you even aware what you are talking about?
He is clearly not, it's a clueless leaf drunk on illusion of his "intellectual superiority" lol. Case study of mount of stupid

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>>134163981
>More like 75 to 80ish percent.
No.
>Source: Your ass.
Look at this map of the battle, anon. This is the city of Aleppo. Do you deny the contents of this map?
>However, the regime will be dealt a crushing blow if the rebels take control of the entire city — they claim to hold roughly 50 percent of Aleppo already — and stand firm against the military offensive
https://worldview.stratfor.com/article/syria-battle-aleppo
Do you deny these things?
>Furthermore so does the fact that the existence of pockets of resistance demonstrate that your claim of holdings are nonsensical.
No. Because small pockets of resistance in small neighbourhoods are not comparable to the SAA and government affiliated forces' presence in Aleppo City. Holding 1% of a city is not the same thing as holding half of it.

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>>134164501
>Great Turkey Soon
>Can not stop Rojava and will end the Balkans?

Not Today Tuk Tuk

>>134164537
>DO you niggers realize that you're talking to charlie india alpha ?
I think I am, at least. I recall having the impression of a delusional moron of him and this leaf fits the bill.

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>>134164265
Nice try saving your ass there. The argument wasn't about whether Russia lost Ukraine or not. The argument was about Putin losing (by that I mean Ukraine was under his control and losing it) which was not the case . Ukraine was lost since the fall of the Soviet Union you ignorant shit.
How could they lose a country when they next annexed the most important part of it. If they didn't take Crimea, that would be considered lost, but it is not the case, now bend over and take it in the ass, Mr armchair analyst.

Also:
>Denying Jews involvement
Lol is that you poroshenko?

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>>134157253
Anyone have info on whether or not it is fake? Or which territory they have taken? Did they capture all the land around the SDF or did the SDF allow them to attack from within their own?

I'll update the wikipedia map once I have confirmation:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_and_battles_involving_ISIL#/media/File:Syrian,_Iraqi,_and_Lebanese_insurgencies.png

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>>134164847

Don't fucking ask me, maybe another silent movement like the one on the Iraqi Border.

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Issam Zahreddine, Lion of Deir ez-Zor, under EU sanctions.
Signed by cunt Mogherini.

http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX:32017D1341&from=EN#ntr1-L_2017185EN.01005601-E0001

>>134164537
Oh. OH.

Damn it, that makes its cognitive dissonance and debating style make a whole lot more sense.

The poster's writing style reminds me of that of former members of Wikipedia's EEML conspiracy (now conspiring to control Wikipedia's editorial slant under the new usernames Volunteer Marek, myverybestwishes, and others): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive121#Summary

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>>134164992

Yo Alpha, lacking of you recently?

>>134164992
Keep up the good fight m8, these pricks constantly raid /ptg/, so glad they're getting assblasted

>>134164982
>Reason:
Holds the rank of Brigadier General, a senior officer in the Republican Guard, in post after May 2011. As a senior military officer he is responsible for the violent repression against the civilian population, including during the siege of Baba Amr in February 2012.

>Literal terrorists
>Civilians

They literally never ran out of shit to say

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>>134164769

Good morning /sg/.
I saw a leaf flag without looking closely, is Charlienigger here?

>>134164365
Nigga your "retort" is repeating what I'm saying. Again "It doesn't mean Ukraine at the time of his office called itself Russia or saw Russia as its brother". I also said: "He may have said bad things in public"

Russia main interest was not about some rights. That's a farce. Russia doesn't give a shit about rights except for justifications of war when it feels like it. Neither does the US care about "muh democracy and human rights" when it deals internationally.

Ukraine is important for Russia as a buffer zone. Yannukovich didn't join the EU because of Russian pressure. Russia controlled the Ukrainian bureaucrats at the time. That 150 billion was obviously made up as an excuse. It's nonsensical to think it would have actually costed 150 billion$.

>Russian top leadership was distracted with the Olympics.

That's ridiculous. The Olympics isn't going to distract Putin and the people important for foreign policy advice/decisions.

>But it was never pro-Russian before that, not under any of its presidents.
It was and you're delusional for thinking Russia's Putin didn't have control of important officials.