Republicans literally have a majority in the Senate and House

>>134116724
because lots of republicans are actually democrats using the republican name, and lots of republicans are insider swamp denizens who hate Trump and his attempts at getting rid of corruption

Big pharma has corrupted and paid off most politicians.

>>134116724
repubs and dems are two sides of the same coin.

R's cant stop a filibuster. Did you not take highschool gov?

>>134116724
Demand a vote
Make them self isolate themselves and make them vote no with the entire country watching

They will back down and vote the way they are supposed to

Really pisses me off they can't get anything done. I'm not even going to bother voting anymore if they can't get shit done holding a majority in the house and senate

>>134116724
Because:
1. Majority of republicans are traitors
2. Majority of republicans hate Trump (see point 1.)
3. They never wanted obongocare repealed, which is why they didn't even have a proposal ready to go despite blowing hot air for years about replacing it

Because they all have different opinions on what should be done.

Democrats don't have different opinions. As a democrat congressman, you vote how your party tells you to vote.

>>134117575
4. Republicans are actually trying to lose in midterm elections so that Trump will be hamstrung.

because muh democracy

>>134116724
they had eight years to come up with something better than the awful Obamacare. Now they are up shit creek.

Trump promised affordable health care for all AND a tax decrease.


And people believe him!

>>134116853
This. This meme about how "Republicans control yada yada yada" needs to die. The majority Republicans in congress right now are NOT Republicans they are democrat/globalist/crony infiltrators paying lip service. Nothing will get done until they are forced out and replaced with real American reps.

>>134116853
>he thinks there are more moderate/liberal democrats then there are conservative/moderate Republicans

There are a handful of actual liberal Democrats in America. Our country is majority center/center-right.

>>134116853
This
>>134117013
And this
>>134117149
And this

Trump's will isn't the will of the GOP. The congressmen in there now for the most part will fight tooth and nail against the only hope their party and white Americans have in not being drowned by mass third world immigration. Trump if he accomplishes the wall and mass deportations of illegal aliens will not have solved the demographic problem. He stands for a positive shift but that shift must continue with new faces in congress that at least tow the line in advancing policies in the best interests of white people. Every Hart-Celler immigrant needs to go back, birthright citizenship needs to be repealed and those who have been naturalized as such need to go back.

I didnt read all comments but this is the truth of why they wont do this. The money doesn't want them to. The donors and lobbyists dont want them to. These "leaders" are more scared of not getting cash then they are of us. They are secure either way. They can leave and do speeches, write books, get jobs at big law firms, become lobbyists themselves, create foundations, BUT if they vote against what the money wants, they are screwed. What this mostly tells you is they have been lying for all these years. So what do we do? Kid Rock and every other troll we can put into office. Dont misunderstand, to be honest he would be better than any of these morons because he hasn't been corrupted. Guy is already rich like Trump is. Motivator isn't cash, fixing the country is. These idiots in now obviously are looking out for them, not the people that elected them. We need to TROLL the SHIT out of THEM!!!!

>>134118030
This is True and this is also key and the part I left out.

>>134117207
>with the entire country watching
the entire country that hates Trump and still loves Obamacare? Because they'll totally be afraid of voting against Trump

>>134116724
So Trump wants 2 Republicans not 8 Democrats to control the Senate.

>>134118443
>Trump's will.

you mean "affordable health care for everyone and lower taxes", which he promised repeatedly on the campaign trail? Trump even went so far as to agree with Bernie on the issue

>>134119145
>hates Trump
Hillary did not get the majority of the vote. Most Republicans in the Senate come from red states.

>>134117804
>Republicans trying to lose midterms
Top meme, the House Republicans would literally kill the Senate Republicans if there was a chance of this happening.

even the most ardent Trump supporters must admit that he lied over half the time on the campaign trail. Either that, or logic and reason mean absolutely nothing to them.

>>134116724
Because their shitty healthcare plan had less than 15 percent support. The ACA itself is a conservative solution to healthcare anyway. They just fucked themselves over by yelling at a bill they should like for the past 7 years.

>>134118055
Nancy Peloci and her silicon valley big tech doners run the party though. San Francisco is such a degenerate city and they now have a huge influence on American politics. That's why our country is going to shit.

>all these excuses

Man, you guys really don't want to admit that your agenda is incredibly unpopular.

>we'll just shove our shit down Americas throat! no one will mind!

Nah.

>>134116724
>Trump and Republicans should be enable to enforce their will
And they get bipartisan support when enforcing (((their))) will

>>134119145
>majority want obamacare repealed
>vote in red wave to control all branches of government to repeal obamacare
>this is "love"

>>134119182
Mass deporting the nonwhite rent seekers from this country accomplishes both of those things.

The most ironic part of all of this is the republicans aren't moving on anything because they take DEMOCRAT money. Its not even funny. Most all of the billionaires are dems. Soros, Bezos, Gates, Bloomberg, you name it. This is where they get most of their cash.

>>134119943
>>majority want obamacare repealed

Wrongo! Most want it fixed and for any unpopularity with Obamacare the Republican plans are all much more unpopular.

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>>134116724
You poor, dumb goy

>>134119430
They are. The republican strategy right now is to pose midterms so then Trump will not be able to do anything and he will then lose in 2020. The entire republican strategy right now is centered around making sure Trump loses 2020. It's the only hypothesis that explains the actions of the party.

It's simply because repealing Obamacare is increasingly more unpopular.

In short, Americans are retarded and changed their mind about repealing Obamacare. Once you give "freebies" to someone, it's very hard to take it away. It doesn't matter if you're from the "right" or "left".

>>134116724
If it isnt obvious by mccain and this shit most of the republicans are deep state like dems. Its all a shit show.
It literally proves to all clueless mouth breathers that the "president" doesnt have as much power as you may think.
Basic gov class will show you that.
Too many chiefs not enough indians.

>>134116724
The "THEY COBTROL THE HOWSE" meme needs to die. Some of these guys barely pass as republicans and it's a bunch of infighting among those

>>134116724
Obamacare is shit, the previous system was shit, but the Republicans never bothered to build a consensus alternative over the past eight years. Just grandstanding and empty rhetoric.

>>134117575
Well yeah, run a campaign saying they'll repeal it so they can continue to get re-elected into their Obamacare exempt position

>>134120368

>freebies
>here, you have to buy insurance now

okay

>>134119661
As if Obamacare wasn't shoved down our throats. Were you in a coma through that whole thing or what?

>>134117207
No they wont. They are less afriad of you, joe populous, than they are of upsetting those that control the establishment club they all belong too. They want to remain in the club. You arent, nor will you ever be, in the club so you dont threaten their membership. You may vote them out but theyre still in the club. The people have forgotten their role. The powerful are glad of that.

I don't understand why the filibuster works. Can't they just wait it out?

>>134120765
Only like 10% of Obamacare buyers pay full freight. The rest are subsidized to one extent or another.

>>134116853
fpbp

>>134116724
Why are they bombarding us with this nonsense? When are they going to build the wall?

Some MAJOR coping in this thread.

Face it, you voted for a bunch of retards because you yourselves are retards.

The fact that republicans can't get shit done while controlling literally everything and cry like fucking babies evrytim is just embarrassing

>>134120930
they cant really wait it out because they only have a day to get the voting in

>>134120311
>It's the only hypothesis that explains the actions of the party.

The other is, of course, that there are no "parties" and everything is just run by the same half-dozen billionaire kikes.

Coincidentally, of course.

>>134116724
51 Senators could change that 60 vote bullshit rule.

>>134120930

There are time limits to restrict how much taxpayer money can be wasted on one issue

>>134117163
>R's cant stop a filibuster
yes they can. all they have to do is vote to suspend the rules.

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>>134121345
its a good thing Republicans are also a majority in Senate then

>>134121291
That's a retarded system

>>134121505
>That's a retarded system
its just a bullshit excuse they tell plebs for why they aren't doing shit.

>>134118774
This is a good point.
We need to start the troll party.
Hashtag only third party, the GTFO party, idk something. Reps and Dems are a fucking joke.
I actually like the GTFO party

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>>134121505
I don't make the rules, heck the only reason why filibusters exist is because of a loophole that says you get to speak until you're finished as long as you stay on topic

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>campaign for years on repeal / repeal & replace
>literally the rallying cry for your base
>finally get a chance to do it
>they don't

Throw em out in 2018, right?

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Gonna be fucking hilarious when the Libcucks babble F-FACISM! after midterms

Hell we won't even need a supermajority - we're a couple of States away from flat out being able to call a constitutional convention

>>134120948

They're still being mandated to purchase insurance, that's hardly a freebie.

>>134116724

Jews and shabbas goys pretending to be republicans, that's the jewish question anon. How can one be loyal to two opposing groups?

>>134119489

About what? Jews are so boring and uncreative.

>>134120015

And these people get it from the federal reserve

A majority won't avoid a filibuster and some of those Republicans are RINOs.

>>134120948
The people who do have to pay get fucked by it. My 64 year-old mother has to pay out the ass for ACA but it has a 5k deductible. It's literally cheaper to pay the fine for not buying into ACA and paying costs out of pocket.

Ineptitude on a grand scale. It's fascinating. The incompetent fucks cant even get a whip count. Sad!

>>134121475
That's the type of short sighted shit that got us where we are.

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how the hell did Obamacare pass? did it require 60 votes too? entitlements will be the death of this country

>>134116853
>>134117575
>>134118443


All these shills cheering for Trump and shit-talking the GOP when Trump said time and again even after the election that he has some mystical Healthcare plan that would satisfy and cover literally everyone.


It is almost as though you fell for a liberal Democrat NYC elite billionaire who switched sides to take advantage of how stupid and easily lead conservatives are.

But that would be curaaaaaaaaaaazy.

>>134116724
Democracy a shit.
Imperium now.

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>Republicans have been bitching and moaning about ACA ever since its inception and implementation
>Republicans have had 7 years to come up with something better than what Obama came up with in 2
>Republicans have control of the House, control of the Senate, and control of the White House
>Republicans just shuffle around with their thumbs up their asses and limp dicks in their hands mumbling instead of backing up all that shit-talking they've been doing for nearly a decade
Fucking embarrassing.

>>134116724
Lots of "dual nationals" and other members of the tribe on both sides of the aisle, that magically somehow manage to agree on things.

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>>134116853
>>134118030
>>134118060
But I thought you guys won the election bigly? When the election results came in /pol/ was so happy about how Republicans control everything, but now that Trump and Republicunts are shown to be the fucking incompetent idiots they are suddenly it's "Oh they aren't REAL republicans, they just call themselves that for shits and giggles!" "Republicans don't control anything, they're all a bunch of insiders and democrats in disguise!" You guys are pathetic. It's hilarious to see the mental gymnastics /pol/ does.

>>134116724
Because a majority is not enough, most things require a super majority and the pro freedom fags refuse to get rid of the filibuster. And they only have a majority of like one, so if just two Republicans vote differently it doesn't pass.

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>>134116724

Dems are able to override the Reps for 8 years
Rep get majority and the presidency

"We just can't stop the evil Dems" cry the Reps

>>134116724
I personally don't agree.
Do we really wanna give democrats a chance to chip out like they did with Obamacare?

GOP cucked out hard thinking that replacing Obamacare is a good idea. Repeal that shit you fucking cowards. This Romneycare shit needs to fucking die.

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>>134123359
um, nice try sweety, but trump is not a conservacuck establishment traditional republican. that's why we voted for him. your argument is invalid.
try again, sweety

>>134119639
I did not know people could be this retarded

So what happens if we just ride out obongocare? What then?

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>>134118019
Totally possible, and easy to achieve. Make it cheaper by regulating how many profits can be made, allowing cheaper medicine from other countries to be imported, allow insurance companies to sell across state lines and let them negotiate prices. All this requires no extra tax money. And we can lower taxes by simply defunding all the useless stuff. We spend hundreds of billions of dollars a year on stupid shit like studying what makes the perfect date.

>>134116724
There's a reason Republicans didn't push a clean repeal this time after doing it 50 times under Obama when they knew he wouldn't sign it.... it's political suicide and they're not that dumb

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>>134116724
It's almost like the republicans have the same agenda and paymasters as the democrats.

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>>134124612

>>134117575
Hear hear

>>134124228
It has still not been fully implemented and it's already causing issues. Democrats pushed it through so fast they literally didn't read it, only a few dozen politicians who voted for it actually read the the entire 10'000 page bill while preaching bullshit lies to the public.

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>>134124735

Congress has no real say about anything. The Lobbyists and blackmailers control both Houses. If anybody thinks they can get anything done solely in the interests of the American people they are wrong. That is why Trump wants two term limits. In-do your job-get out.

>>134123359
Hey it keeps power out of Democrats hands that's fine

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>>134125115

>>134116724
goddamn republicucks

>>134123010
Welcome to Mr Bones Wild Ride!

>>134116853
FPBP

>>134117163
ACA was passed without filibuster.
You just say no filibusters.

>>134127030
>ACA was passed without filibuster.
The Dems had a supermajority then, so they could pass whatever laws they wanted with no debate.

The GOP in congress mocked them as they passed it since they knew this stupid law meant they'd get the majority back.

When ACA passed, it too, more than six months to debate , although Dem did gphave majority. Rep should do the same thing!

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>>134123987
nice gif sweetie

>>134117163
They only need 50 and they can't even do that

>>134116724
Trump is a failure.

>>134123032
>You can't take Trump literally
>He's a straight talker!

I have no idea how anyone is this stupid. I understand voting against Hillary but actually trying to defend him is so laughably pathetic.

>>134130631
"He tells it like it is."

>>134124228
Then 10% of the population will be bankrupted by mandated $50 000/year insurance premiums or $10 000/year fines.

Letting it play out is the nuclear option somewhere on the level of allowing a government shutdown, the economy will be fucked for decades.

>>134131235
It's not even the top 10% either, it'll be the lower-middle-class 45-55% that are too rich to qualify for free care but too poor to actually afford the mandated levels of care.

Basically, it's the final death knell for the American middle class, before society is fully divided into the ultra poor and the ultra rich, with no middle ground.

>>134116724
Welcome to the One Progressive Party. In this case it is three Republican women holding this up, and even if they weren't it still would not happen, because the party does not want to piss off their real constituents, and that is their corporate donors.
This is why people need to vote out the two parties in the congress, like they did to the candidates running to become president. Until this is done this nation will go the way of Rome.

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>>134116724

Fuck you faggot, he Repealed Obamacare today. A win by any standard.

>>134132969
No he didn't.
It failed.

>>134132969
holy shit trump is mentally demented

>>134132969
Stick with your own berlusconi

>>134132969
how do we find the 4 traitors?

>>134133806
It is Snowe, Milkulski, and the other bitch for three. Cannot remember the forth, but the three women are only considered Repubicans by the R after their names. Otherwise they are really Dems.

>>134116724
Republicans aren't the hive mind party.

>>134133581

A win by ANY standard.

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>>134134526
>It is Snowe

Are you fully fucking retarded? Olympia Snowe retired in 2013. 4 years ago.

Mikulski is a Democrat.

What mental illness do u have?

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>>134123032
>>134130631
>>134131193
>>134133581
>haha look Trump can't fufill 100% of what he promised because of obstructionism and wish washy senators, looks like you should have voted for Clinton huh

>>134116724
>His tweets are becoming reactionary and normie tier

Lmao drumpf, please. Sweetie.

>>134135161
To be fair, Collins is a fucking doppelganger for Snowe and even I get mixed up sometimes.

Maine's Senate delegation sucks.

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Trump needs to stop whining like a faggot.

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>>134136308

Dafuq you talking about???

BIG WIN.

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>>134116853
they're all keynesian economists, aka human trash and communist subversive subhuman pedophile slavemaster cocksuckers.

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>>134117804
>Speaker of the House Ryan was seen going into meetings with democrats
> According to the rumors the Swampsters want the democrats to win the house and senate
>Then impeach Trump and Pence
>One scenario if Ryan is still speaker of the House he would remove both Trump and Pence and pick Hillary Clinton as his Vice President - Then Resign and Hillary becomes President.
>Democrat speaker of house (Pelosi) picks Hillary Clinton as Vice President and resigns and Hillary becomes President.

We shall see if the Swampsters get their way.

>>134136625
How is it a big win to not repeal Obama Care?

>>134123024
>did it require 60 votes too?

Yep. Democrats know how to pass legislation though. Obama knew how to lead.

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>>134136625
>Must... save..... face....

>>134136896

Never heard of a moral victory? As a Tennessee Vols fan it's what happens when you lose to Alabama in football by 7 points.

>Well, at least it wasn't a blowout!!!

>>134116724
whys he whining about perfectly logical and necessary rules
first thing i ever saw trump do thats gay

It's really .gov team vs you. They make cheer for red team vs blue team but they've all been paid for by their lobbyists. Trump is hated by both sides because he's not in their club.

the most important things for the US are quite obviously:
1 demographics: trump is better than we could hope for on this front
2 supreme court: trump is better than we could hope for on this front
3 foreign policy: trump is letting a democractically elected leader run syria instead of starting world war 3. again, better than we could have hoped for on this point.

the little every day petty fights dont matter
god bless you donald
god bless america

>>134137164
Because it was enacted without those majorities. Basically it's harder to repeal than it was to pass, which makes no sense.

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>>134136896

BIG WIN BY ANY STANDARD!!!

IMPRESSIVE!!!!

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>>134116724

I just read that the senate actually voted to repeal Obamacare in 2014, but it was of course vetoed by Obama. How the hell did they get the votes then but not now when they control the presidency?

>>134138213
They voted for it knowing it was going to get vetoed.

>>134138213
because they were disingenuously playing politics while knowing they wouldnt have to face the repercussions

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>>134138213
Because the swampsters knew Obama was going to veto it.

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>>134138213

Because republican voters actually like Obamacare now that they know its actually the same thing as the 'Affordable care act'.

They now know they are on Obamacare and they don't want it gone.

>>134116724
When elections come around, do you want to be the person that voted to demolish American healthcare with no replacement? The Senate has more to think about than some angry Trumpfags.

>>134138591
obamacare is a fucking travesty you commie faggot

>>134138662

Big win. By any standard. IMPRESSIVE.

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>>134138662
>obamacare is a fucking travesty

If so, then its a popular travesty among republican voters. They have never been consistent with what they want, it was neo-liberalism with the Tea party, and now its protectionism with Trump, and who knows what they will stand for in a few years from now.

The popular thing with republican voters now is 'reforming Obamacare', rather than replacing it. Which is the same thing the democrats want. Obama won.

>>134138636
This implies that Obamacare is better than what came before it, which is the opposite of what they've been saying for years.

>>134139351

Yeah, it is the opposite of what they have been saying for years. They changed their minds.

>>134130559
He's doing his job. He's got his pen ready.

>>134139351
It's better than nothing. Dismantling it now will bring down the entire system. That's how it was designed. If they really cared about healthcare, they would fix the problems with the current bill, instead of this partisan bullshit.

>>134116724
>enforce their will
>Why are they such cucks?

There is always the possibility they'd actually prefer to do nothing. You can't imagine that, because you believe they are your bitches. They are not. They are in fact better than you. Enjoy more power than you. And can fuck you over with a single vote.

>>134120151
you're an idiot

>>134121179
a leaf, everyone

>>134116724
Trump and the Republicans in Congress are two different things.

>>134139924
>Dismantling it now will bring down the entire system. That's how it was designed. If they really cared about healthcare, they would fix the problems with the current bill, instead of this partisan bullshit.
The hard line no-compromise "get government out of health care and let the free market decide" people seem to disagree.

>>134136895
No joke that would start a civil war

>>134140664
>The hard line no-compromise "get government out of health care and let the free market decide" people seem to disagree.

Are those people still around? I guess SOMEBODY must still be listening to Glenn Beck.

>>134140872
Yes, in fact, they're the ones who keep scuttling every repeal-and-replace effort the Republicans have tried to make this year.

>>134120151
That's not even true, poorfag. The majority of Americans still have employer-sponsored private healthcare coverage. And they could give a fuck what works for you unemployed, degenerate poorfags.

This is the great tragedy or your victories. You actually imagined anyone who ever made money in America could ever give a fuck about you. Protip: they are lying.

Absolutely nobody at all respects the poor in this country and that's exactly why we look the other way when cops gun them down in the street.

They are nothing but future commies to us.

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>>134116724
Because (((Republicans))) like this exist.

>>134140959

Oh, you mean the republican politicians. I thought you meant voters.

>>134141137
Well the politicians are doing what their constituents want. If I'm wrong, they'll get removed in 2018, but I doubt it.

>>134120628
Republicans are doing this all exactly right. Let it collapse without a single Republican vote intervening.

Who can you blame for the mess then? Dems have to know this is coming. Expect them to panic soon.

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>>134141051

>>134141307
>Who can you blame for the mess then?

The party that controls the House, Senate and presidency.

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But this is super short sighted.
It means the second Republicans lose their majority (which will happen at some point), the Democrats will just nix the law

This is why you have things such as 60 vote thresholds, it's to prevent this kind of autistic government switching rapidly back and forth between extremes

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>>134141399
IMPRESSIVE WIN! 48-4. BY ANY STABDARD.

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>>134116853
>WE WON, BTFO LIBERALS
>IT'S THE LIBERALS FAULT WE CAN'T WIN

pick one already you fucking whinny faggot children

>>134141528
the GOP has gone absolute drug addiction instant gratification mode ever since they gained support for just saying 'we hate obama' and seeing positive public responses

the GOP is almost worse than the Dems because at least the Dems know what they want

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>>134141764

>>134141241

Different republican voting blocks have differing preferences towards the affordable healthcare act. The poorer republicans who can't afford to lose it, want it reformed. While the wealthier republicans who can manage without want to get rid of it. So the republicans are divided against themselves.

The Trump supporters are generally the same ones who want the ACA reformed rather than replaced, including the swing state voters who gave Trump the victory. So now we have this weird situation where the Trump supporters are basically the democrats now, and Trump a weird bizzarro Democrat. But republicans can't get rid of this democrat because that would cause the real democrats to win next elections.

>>134142291

48-4. Impressive win. By ANY standards.

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>>134123359
Trump is not incompetent you retarded shills. We'll kick out the shitty never trumpets and all the corrupt ads democrats until we win. /pol/ will
Never be defeated.