Obama literally improved my life by giving me affordable healthcare

>>134101877
>democrat voter receives gibs, sells soul to democrats

What a shock.

>>134102079
What's it like being spooked?

Literally answer the question 12 year old

>>134102131
Oh, and I thought OP was bait.

You're getting gibs and you don't give a shit if those gibs fuck over the rest of us. Got it.

>>134101877
>Teenage faggot that knows exactly dick about how the world works, loves democrats cuz muh free shit
Truly shocking

>>134102248
>fuck over the rest of us

Literally explain to how it fucks you-specifically-over. Explain to me how your life is negatively affected by the actions of Obama.

You're completely spooked, so I'm trying to wake up up by making you realize you don't actually have any foundation for your beliefs

>>134102345
gotta love all these great arguments that clearly explain how a president's actions have either negatively or positively affected them personally

Daily reminder to all of you spooked republicucks that if you can't rationally draw a line to your own self interst you are fucking spooked

>>134101877
Obama didn't give you anything. Your parents paid for it. If they weren't covering you, their healthcare bills would be smaller. The difference is what your healthcare cost.

If you are in your early 20s healthcare is mad cheap for you and would be cheaper without Obamacare.

>>134102393
Your gibs come from the rest of us.

Someone, somewhere along the line, has to write a check to pay the government, who takes its cut, and passes it on to you. Because you're too much of a bitch to take care of yourself.

>>134102393
30% increase, so far, in health insurance premiums to subsidize mama's boys like you. Get out there in the real world in order to have some credibility.

>>134101877
If you can't support yourself until 27 then you should legit suicide. What a fucking useless waste.

>>134102598
>obama didn't give you anything
obama made the meany insurance companies insure me for longer. He served my self interest against the forces that do not serve my self interest. This is because I live my life serving my self interest instead of being spooked.
Also my parents are insured by their jobs so they barely pay for anything. I dont care how this affects anyone else because all I care about is my own self interest.

>If you are in your early 20s healthcare is mad cheap for you and would be cheaper without Obamacare.

This is factually incorrect in my circumstances.

>>134102620
>the rest of us

which sounds like an argument in a vacuum, but this is reality where Trump is literally trying to raise your taxes from the relatively lower rates they currently are.
>>134102699
sounds like something you heard from a stat on fox news. I bet your personal bills haven't changed very much at all, nothing compared to what they would be under Trump tax reforms

>>134102812
mad spooked faggot that got kicked out at 18 detected

>>134102598
this

Im 23 and healthy as shit, i havent even succumbed to the flu ever, i dont fucking need health insurance and I sure as fuck dont need to ruin my parents just because everything else is apeshit retarded


I dont even know how I am supposed to execute a couple different business ventures I have planned with this clusterfuck

>>134103180
>i don't fucking need health insurance

except for your entire childhood where everything was paid for by your parents. Also nobody needs health insurance until they do

>>134103145
>Trump is literally trying to raise your taxes
to pay for your gibs you fucking welfare queen.

>>134103363
Wow you might actually be retarded.

Still nobody ITT that can actually draw a link between a president and their personal life, which is really fucking sad when you think about it. (you know, besides lies and statistics you heard on fox since you're probably edgy college students)

>>134103145
My premiums increased 32.4%. Mine, not some stat on Fox, you dumbfuck kid. I know you lefties hate facts, but that's a real, irrefutable one. Like I said before, get out from underneath Mommy's wing and maybe you'll have some credibility. You don't know shit about anything because you don't yet live in the real world. You're here, so there's hope for you, but understand that your life experience currently sits at zero.

>how Obama has ruined your life

He has made racism a far larger problem than it ever was. There is no group more subject to racial discrimination than white people.

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>>134103470
>lies
>spends the rest of the post doing a generic /pol/ putdown


spooked as fuck m8

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>>134103835
lol

>>134103326
>your parents paid when you were born

>they should pay till your 26

>no one needs health insurance until they do

Truly, this brilliant mind has been overlooked

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>>134101877

How much are mommy and daddy paying for you ignorant, money-leeching little shit?

>in case they aren't

How much are your neighbors and friends parents are paying for you?

>>134103470
>gibs come from the magical gibs tree and they're completely free thanks obama literally

>someone points out that your understanding of the situation is stupid and simplistic
>call them a retard

Those gibs sure have a way of making people do mental gymnastics to prove they aren't welfare queens!

No matter how you try to justify it, you're just a welfare queen sucking up the gibs like the worthless piece of trash you are.

>>134103145
>I live my life serving my self interest

Pretty honest for a leftist.

>>134103983
when you were born? How about your teeth, and all the daily care products you were provided, and all the shots and all the checkups and all the advanced 20-21st century stuff we do to kids, and pretty much everything that you don't realize wasn't actually "default" for everyone.

I can't wait for you to get in a car crash and have to pay 30 thousand dollars because you don't have health insurance.

>>134104033
The alternatives you support will factually increase the amount of money you are losing every month, Trump's bills are literally retarded shit they scribbled up in a week that try to emulate 1980s economic thinking.

You're all just spouting generic insults and lying, such a sad state this board is in. I often wonder what it's like to be so utterly spooked.

>>134104043
there are two kinds of people in the world: people who serve their self interest, and people who don't realize they are doing so.

>>134104183
i have an abnormally strong immune system,

my teeth? no cavaties, no dentures or whatever, no smoking, just whitening toothpaste due to coffee


go fuck yourself. you clearly cant do cost benefit analysis or believe people should have a right to do so. also, if I needed to payh 30 k for a surgery I would be flown to india with my connections out there, you fucking dirt poor mongrel

>>134104666
*braces or retainers i mean

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>>134104666
>you clearly cant do cost benefit analysis or believe people should have a right to do so.

says the guy supporting a bill that will raise his own taxes because he's spooked into believing that it's a free market and subsidies don't exist in everything and that you can draw a direct link between 1% of the federal budget and your personal life, even though the facts are right in front of you.

If you want to live your life without healthcare, by all means. seems risky, but you seem like a smart guy that obviously doesn't lie on the internet.

Not having health insurance is a net loss to everyone else in the society you live in because they have to keep you alive anyway even though you're not paying. They have to go rescue you even though you're not paying. A spooked guy like you should care that this contradicts your argument, but I wouldn't. I'd just keep on keeping on serving myself, maybe one day you'll realize you're doing the same.

>india with my connections

we've got a badass over here that's definitely not lying

>>134105320
>Scared to come out from under Mommy's wing
>Calls others "spooked"
KYS faggot child

Captcha: Helicopter

Obamacare has raised the costs of Insurance for individual if you make a decent living(aka no give). Also the employer provided insurance I get costs more for my employer and myself. All while getting a shittier plan. Your parents are getting screwed you mooch. You just leech off of them and don't care.

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>>134105652
excellent argument, especially considering this is an anonymous conversation, almost as good as the last time you made the exact same one

>>134105864
it literally hasn't. You're literally just spooked

God I love this thread. It pretty much confirms my suspicions

>>134105875
I showed you down to the tenth of a percent how much your welfare nigger-in-chief has personally fucked me, and you ran away from that fact, like little lefties always do. Stay at Mommy's house where your meaningless little life can be subsidized by your parents and the government. It's a scary world out there if you're a NEET nu-male. The one who is spooked is you, who need a nanny state to take care of your every need. Pussy.

Pre Obamacare my weekly insurance cost was 110 for me and my family. 1500 max out of pocket 20 dollar Co pay. Now it is 135 weekly, 1500 Max per person deductible with a 20% coinsurance for up to $8500. Employer cost on all employees former plan 340000. Now over 600000. Also my grandfather owns the company. Hurts my inheritance. 2 ways he fucked me and every other employee there.

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>>134106345
>lie again
>make the same insult 3 (THREE) times in a row in an anonymous conversation

spooked

>>134101877
why don't you ask the victims of illegal immigrants faggot

>>134106802
sounds like your grandfather fucked you guys and blamed it on Obama.

This is next-level spooking right here

>>134106948
I like how you care you spooked faggot

>spooked
>ctrl f
>18 entries found

Shill learned a new word?

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>>134107190
spooked cuck getting triggered? sounds like it

>>134106806
>Calls me a liar twice
>The Jew York Times must be lying too
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/26/upshot/rising-obamacare-rates-what-you-need-to-know.html
This is the fourth time I'm going to call you a dumbfuck kid who doesn't know shit, because it's still true, despite the facts BTFO of your "arguments". Spiced for extreme faggoty willful ignorance.

>>134104454
>get shittier, higher deductible insurance that is more expensive than what you could have gotten on your own pre-obamacare
>love it

cool self interest, bro.

>>134107636
Archive the clickbaiters
https://archive.is/fWyNQ

>>134107410
na I'm just curious where you learned your new word from.

>>134107636
why you're stupid is thinking that republicans would make your rates go down. Yes rates are higher than they were, because that's how the economy works you retard. The replacement for obamacare is not the solution to the problems you perceive, that you think exist in an obama vacuum and because you're a dumbfuck kid who doesn't know shit, and you'll probably willfully support future legislative measures that negatively affect you because you think the world's problems are all democrat's fault.

You really are spooked as all fuck, by all means keep going

>>134107953
and you think you'll get better insurance post-obamacare? That's why you're spooked. You think it would be 2004 again if we just had a republican president. You're about to learn how stupid you are

>>134108043
>30% increases are normal
Ha! you really are fresh off the boat.

>>134101877

Small business owner here. Obamacare was awesome for us particularly at first. I got one of my employees covered under her parents' policy (she was 25) and Aetna had to write us a ~$2,000 check in the first year because of the cost containment provision (not enough % of premiums spent on care).

Unfortuantely since then premiums have slowly climbed back up to close to where they were before the ACA. But it saved us a lot of money for a while, anyway, and the pre-existing conditions clause is a godsend.

And yeah, anyone here who thinks Trump has done shit for them is the last link in the Republican human centipede (right behind Fox News, who have even started to turn on him).

>>134101877
Obama litterally fucked mine and everyone I knows life over by jacking up our rates by triple.

>>134101877
just wait until you stop sucking off your mothers tits and get a job. If you're a single white male, youll watch your insurance rates triple, you underdeveloped man-child

>>134108504
the economy tripled your rates. You're adorable if you think republicans can or will do anything about that

>>134101877
have you actually used money from the insurance company though?

>>134108043
I'm 48, little one. In order to figure out how to make health care more affordable, why don't we look at what medical practices have gone down in price over the years? The answer happens to be the procedures with the least amount of government/insurance oversight: Elective surgery. Fake tits, eye surgery, etc. has dropped in price over time and isn't covered by insurance/government. The answer is to remove government and the insurance lobby from health care implementation. You stupid fucking idiot kid, who knows absolutely nothing about how the economy works.

>>134108684
what's adorable is that if you're really 48, and you think that logical fallacy is a good argument, you're even more spooked than I thought.

>>134104183
>Pay 30k because you don't have health insurance

There's this thing called having a job. You should look into it instead of suckling from the teat of mother government and your parents your entire adult life.

>>134108795
There's another one of those pesky facts you dance around by calling it a "logical fallacy" Cute, and not unexpected.

Trump has scared the shit out of the spics that infest the industrial area I work in. There used to be a lot of problems with fights drug dealing petty theft cars being broken into and stolen. since Trump they are all scared of being deported. Number of crimes committed way down. Real sorry you dont get your government handout anymore. Now fuck off nigger faggot

>>134101877
>blah blah blah Obama good fuck Drumpf

sage

>>134101877
Obama made me foot the bill for my medical expenses. Trump got rid of a verified criminal in my city.
Egoism is the dumbest philosophy after Nihilism, though. Proving something to you is like arguing with a homeless man

>>134108602
>The economy tripled your rates

Can you provide a source and elaborate on that?

>>134109050
>facts
>>134109064
>logical fallacy
>>134109230
>implying effort
>>134109287
>fascist

aren't you just a colorful bunch of spooked autists pretending to be hotshots

>>134108563

And that's how Obama ruined your life and Trump improved yours, is it?

Just wondering why the question makes you so angry that you can't answer it.

>>134109510
just because your gas costs more than it did in 1980 doesn't mean Obama ruined your life.

>>134109639
That's not a source

Apples to oranges, too.

>>134109721
ok retard

Just because your health insurance cost less in the 90s than it does in 2017 doesn't mean Obama ruined your life.

>>134109820
That's not a source

Why did the economy triple my rates?

>>134109511
It is a fact that elective surgery is not covered by insurance or government.
It is a fact that the prices have gone down for elective surgery.
It is a fact that you have absolutely no arguments to support your fawning love for the former nigger-in-chief, his minions, or his ideology, except to say that you suck his cock because free milk (subsidized by taxpayers and your Mommy) comes out of his dick. You got nuthin'.

>>134108795
Pre Obama care you could be on parents insurance plans until 26 if you were a student. If you're not a student then you should work and not be a scab

>>134109933
because economics 101

maybe you should have taken it

>>134110025
it's a fact that elective surgery is not an example you can just mass generalize and apply to all sectors of health coverage.

That's called a logical fallacy, no matter how many words you use to make the same fallacy.

>>134101877
>on mommy's healthcare plan

Come back when you're a grownup. You're irrelevant til then.

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>>134101877
I'm an egoist as well and as a perfectly fit man I'm not interested in providing the gibsmedat for your "affordable healthcare and coverage". Thus, by giving me the choice not to do so Trump would improve my life.

>>134101877
You didn't have it before Onigger - there's no reason for people to have it at the expense of the taxpayers for the leeches like you

>>134110216
actually trump is not going to do anything to fix your healthcare because he doesn't understand it any more than you do, and all that's gonna happen is your taxes are going to raise

>>134110137
It shows to anyone that isn't being willfully ignorant that less government/insurance lobby interference = lower prices.

>>134110332
nah it shows that cosmetics are different than lifesaving operations, that the entire medical field cannot be generalized into one specific example

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>>134101877
>Obama literally improved my life by giving me affordable healthcare

Stopped reading right there. You're a faggot who needs HIV meds.

>>134110137
>Claim that the "economy" tripled everyone's rates (except you, the jobless wonder)
>Can't provide even a single coherent sentence to back it up

Maybe you should've taken econ 101 instead of playing wow for the last 10 years.
Still waiting on a single source to back up any of your claims.

>>134110928
this is ironic, considering all the sources you've got

>>134111009
Not making any claims here, you illiterate moron.

Provide me a single source that Obamacare has lowered healthcare costs for anyone in the 18-30 bracket.

>>134110395
There may be no hope for you. You may very well be sucking big government cock for your entire life. Stick around here and maybe you'll learn something about the real world, but you really should lurk moar. Work on getting some arguments to back up your leftist Utopian bullshit. Calling someone a liar while ignoring facts as they are presented isn't good enough. Stay under Mommy's wing for as long as she'll let you. The real world is going to eat you alive if you ever get there. Good luck kid, you're gonna need it. You don't seem to have much else going for you.

>>134110794
is this supposed to be bill who kinda looks like carl, but not really, but in the sense that because they share similar looks, they have different outlooks on life? I can assure you bill seems like a depressed sack of shit who really doesn't think any of it matters

>>134101877
>until 26
Get a job already you filthy parasite.

>>134101877
>As an egoist, there is literally no reason I should support a man who is against my interests.

As an egoist I don't give a fuck about your problems. Get a job. Then you'll understand how it feels to be on the side of those who make things instead of just take things.

>>134111119
your claim is that obama specifically is the reason your health care rates are higher than they used to be. This is folly.

>>134111284
stop being a naziboo you spooked cuck get used to anglo domination faggot

>>134111508
Did you know there are such a thing as user IDs on /pol/, you goddamned newfag?

I haven't made a single claim. All I want is for you to provide a single source that Obamacare is a good thing.

>>134101877
Well congratulations you have healthcare. I used to pay for my own until it became too expensive with Obamacare so I had to get rid of it. So by doing the responsible and right thing purchasing/maintaining my own coverage within my budget, I'm priced out the market and to top it all off I don't qualify for any subsidies.
>fuck everything about this current system

>>134111898
he is not going to give you a source

SAGE in all fields for these type of idiots (or LARPing as idiots)

>>134111911
spooked faggot mad the world isn't working out for him

>>134111898
>i haven't made a single claim

this is true

anyway moving on

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>>134111218
Was just bored.

>>134112252
>Moving on

To what? The rest of your unsubstantiated claims?

>>134101877
>31 posts by this ID

He mad.

>>134112252
Nice conjecture you got there kid. Keep trying but at least have a semblance of an argument. Last (you) you're getting. You living off mommy and daddy must be nice, some of us never had that luxury.
>tolerant left amirite

>>134111218
Also, don't talk about bill like that.

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>>134101877
2016 Louisiana flood. Guess who came to Louisiana to donate food and supplies to victims
>Donald Trump.
Guess who didn't, and stayed in Martha's Vineyard playing golf.
>King Nigger
But this thread though...
>GAS THE KIKE
>HANG THE NIGGERS
>KILL THE LEFTIES
SIEG
FUCKING
HEIL