Why is libertarianism seen as a conservative ideology when it

>>134094973
Fascism doesnt have to either.

>>134094973
>Why is libertarianism seen as a conservative ideology
Because liberals think that if you advocate for personal responsibility, you're literally hitler.

If not wanting an ever expanding state telling me what to do all the time and draining all my money through tax makes me a liberal.
Colour me liberal

>>134095069
Not all the time. But at least it cares about its people.

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Glory to Ukraine!

>>134094973
Because only left-wing ideologies try to quantify and regulate culture. That way they can say who is oppressed and who needs preferential treatment.

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>Why is the sky seen as the ground when it's actually the ocean?

>>134094973
We were the Left when the terminology was invented during the French revolution. The language no longer has the same meaning, but the Left originally referred to the commoners asserting their individual rights and wills against the monarchy. The Left used to be We the People, exerting our individual, sovereign wills, now it is We the People with a uniform will expressed by the state as body politic.

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>>134094973
>which measures the success of a country by dollar signs and the amount of degeneracy permitted

An ideology that is about freedom can't be utilitarian nor degenerate. Freedom does not have preferences or imposition of moral values. Utilitarianism is communism, commie blocks are utilitarian, food rations are utilitarian, we libertarians hate utilitarianism.

We want to decentralize laws and values, not eliminate them. We want the ability to dissociate from our commie neighbor as much as you want the ability to dissociate from Kenyans. Just because he was born near us does not make this person more desirable, I'm not shy about it, I prefer a libertarian-right nigger than a white socialist. I would form a collective with That Guy T before I formed it with moldylocks.

You think it's your duty to convince the 6B people in the world to behave in a moral way? Well, we libertarians don't, but just because I believe you should be free to drink yourself to death does not mean that I will do it or that I will let the people I actually care about do it.

And certainly not in my property.

>>134094973
Left/Right and liberal at this point are labels that aren't nearly comprehensive or suitable enough to adequately describe the depth/breadth of complex political thought.
They just aren't defined concretely enough.

>>134094973

Fuck off I want freedom. Fucking socialist piece of shit. You'd probably merge your faggot group with antifa if you got the chance.

>>134098713

Also the only group with cohesive arguments that are actually applicable to this day and age and are not some wild fantasy that wants to go back to the past.

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>>134094973
The same argument could be made for NatSoc. Besides, Libertarians just don't like being told what to do, particularly under an unquestionable authoritarian.

>>134098713

You don't get it, dude. The "degeneracy" of libertarianism that matters isn't the drug abuse or people drinking themselves to death- it's the complete and total destruction of the patriarchy and the family unit. It won't be a degeneracy somehwere off your property, it will be a degernacy in your bedroom and your children's bedrooms. In an unrestrained free market, no corporations are going to willingly ignore the female 50% of the population that could be consumers and a labor base. Women spend more than men do, especially on novelties, and having a 100% larger labor market means you need to offer lower wages overall. Women also ask for raises less. In the absence of any state coercion, women will be taken out of the home, given their own careers and money, and spend their days working around other men.Libertarianism is feminism.

Once again, completely unrestrained corporations are never going to pass up the opportunity to have tens and hundreds of millions of additional consumers and workers just becauaw they happen to be violent, low IQ brown people from the third world. Sure, there will be a tiny elite of white at the top (although it will mostly be Jews) but they will happily bring in countless hordes of people who will essentially work for slave wages, and consumer and spend with the foresight typical of their race and culture. Libertarianism is multiculturalism, Libertiarian is mongrelization.