Do you ever think that you're wrong, that liberals are right,

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>>134050144
I've always been a progressive. I assume you're asking someone else...

>>134050144
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>>134050144

beliefs are a spook

It's because I can't unsee what I've seen. The west is fucking doomed

>>134050144
mmmmmmmmmmmmm titties

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>>134050144
she lost lol

>>134050144
Ignorance is bliss.

>>134050144
It's more fun. When you're on the right, you don't constantly have to constantly find things offensive on behalf of 0.8% of the population.

>>134050144
No, because a leftist has never presented an argument that stays within the confines of logic.

sure, life would be easier. living a fantasy doesn't make the outside world, actually better

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>>134050144

>lived through 8 years of Obama

Nope we are right. Liberalism is a disease. Enjoy your summer you college cuck.

>>134050144
Yes, but their ain't no cure for the redpill. Everything is else is just a facade now. My only option is either apathy or anger.

>>134050144
As long as liberals continue to try to police my thoughts I have no reason to ever doubt being right. Fuck you I do what I want.

>>134050144
Are you implying I'd get more pussy if I was a liberal?

Because liberal women tend to be fucking gross, the more a woman takes care of herself the more likely she is to be a Republican (among white girls anyway)

And no, liberals aren't right because their policies would make me a minority in my own country subject to the whims of white-hating shitskins from Mexico and Nigeria. Liberal policies are directly against my own best interests.

>>134050144
>change what you believe
literally start convincing me any time now

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>>134050144
That is the entire point of the redpill/bluepill metaphor.
Did you even watch the matrix?

Redpill is the harsh truth that's hard to swallow but will give you a chance to rectify what is wrong.

Bluepill is the easy lie that's everything you want to hear. It makes life so much easier to live day to day but the problems you're ignoring don't go away and will eventually ruin your blissful ignorance.

Everyone WANTS the bluepill but everyone NEEDS the redpill.

>>134050144
An uncontrollable obsession to never be wrong.

>>134050144
>looks at the degeneracy currently occurring in canada

gas the kikes race war now

>>134050144
but I already was a liberal

no going back now

>>134050144
Sometimes.
But all you really have to do to dispel that feeling again is to listen to liberal politicians present their point of view.
It's always fucking retarded with massive logical holes in it that get brushed aside because "muh feelings"

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>>134050144
No, I will not be replaced without a fight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJ0AHO-IWws

Unfortunately I was cursed with intelligence that left me questioning, genuine empathy that made me feel for the working poor, and had nobody to help me so I've had to fend for myself and stand on my own two feet

I despise people who can't respect the values my experience have given me. What about the views from kids who live off daddy's money, live in gated communities away from the brown people they claim to love and have never worked - what about these people's views is worth listening to?

Utopian at best, plain stupidity at worst

>Do you ever think that you're wrong
No

Liberalism is a disease created by Jews in an attempt to get control over white people , to find out whether you are right or wrong just think , wat would a utopian world be for me ? If everything ran off of my beliefs

Using this logic
>Liberal world >Same shithole everyone dumb as shit , racemixing apes
>National socialist world >Everything perfect

>>134050144
No.
I've lived the liberal life and saw its faults and inconsistencies for myself.
It does not lead to a better world. The "people" that you uplift are hateful assholes who will kill you after you free them. Order is destroyed and more and more people lose touch with reality and live their lives as caricatures.
I don't want to live in that nihilistic dystopia. I want decisions made on merit rather than diversity and feelings. I want criminals to be treated like criminals. I want the return of communities that care for each other, not through government forcing them, which doesn't work, but through blood and cultural ties.
Doing what's right usually isn't easy. I'm willing to give my life to do what's right. I doubt your convictions are so strong.

>>134050862
>plain stupidity at worst
Nah, at worst it is pure evil. Just listen to all the trustfund commie fucks who legitimately think that the solution to communism not working is to change the basic principles of how humans function rather than just fixing their shitty ideology.

>>134050537
Conservatives do this as well.

Stupid reasoning.

>>134050227
You should be chained to a post and beaten to death.

>>134050997
>Communism
>Shitty ideology
It's a shitty ideology by design and it works , look at most of Russia today and you'll see communist remains , it was a Jews dream , people could not achieve anything , everyone was poor , buildings dull and still wondering how it all went wrong

>>134050144

I'm not wrong. The liberal ideology contradicts reality itself.

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>>134050227
>manlet shitlibs assmad that every member of Trump's family, including Trump himself, is significantly taller than average

>>134051222

Trips of truth!

>>134051026
Cuckservatives aren't exactly anti-liberals.

>>134050144
>Do you ever think that you're wrong, that liberals are right, that life would be better/easier if you changed up what you believed, etc.?

Nah. I'm black and their position on race is bullshit. Similar think with sexism. Would my life be better/easier if I believed? Maybe, maybe not. I'd feel like a complete cuck if I just forced myself to abide by their dogma.

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>>134051222
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We're dealing with people that want both wealth redistribution and open borders simultaneously, all while texting on their iPhones.
I wish we could cordon off a section of the country, build a wall around it, then run it exactly the way they claim they want things to be, and ship them all there.

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>>134051233
You should direct this anger towards something productive. Have you ever considered gardening?

its call canada

>>134050144
>Do you ever think that you're wrong, that liberals are right

No, because I used to be a liberal

You gotta understand that the entire liberal mindset is based on fantasy, what they want to believe is true, but is not actually true

It's idealism, wishful thinking, pie in the sky bullshit

I came back down to earth and my life has never been better, you have to work with reality not fight against it

>>134051506
its called Canada.

>>134050144
I'm actually a "liberal" in the sense of I embrace many of the views of classic liberalism but at the end of the day it is clear to me that traditionalism is the best course of action to allow humanity to "ascend" into the world conquering space-faring society that it was always meant to be with out a strong society and strong morals and nations there is no hope of ever reaching that level because invariably liberalism of any kind holds back the strong and raises the weak and a society built by those who are weak is weak in-of-itself and will collapse rather quick so while I may be a liberal I recognize the faults with my chosen ideology and believe I should sacrifice my support of it for the greater good of humanity as a whole

>>134050144

will i ever marry a woman as beautiful as her?

>>134050144
One word. Reality. Reality doesn't CHANGE on what you believe. What you believe should change based on REALITY. LIBERALS hate science and reality, except when it fits in with their cult like dogma. BELIEVING muslims are peaceful won't stop the knife from cutting your throat. CONSTANT VIGILENCE.

>>134050144
Why would I join the party that actively hates me, wishes me dead and actively tries to destroy any sort of values or hope I might have as a >FUCKING WHITE MALE? The only progress is towards their nihilistic goals of revolution to further eradicate those who aren't ideologically pure enough as if they're a fucking cult, which they are.

>>134051662
>Communism has never been tried
Back to r/latestagecapitalism

>>134050144
No

>>134050144

Convictions. A moral compass.

>>134050144
or you could just be like the majority of the population and not give a fuck about politics?

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>>134054934
Your flag is confusing

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>>134050144

Easy answer. NO.

Any "side" will have its dumb moments and you restrain your ability for true knowledge by constricting your thinking wholly to one or the other's ideology.

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The truth about immigration, by the numbers:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE

Cultural Marxist Jews Admit Organizing White Genocide

The plan to eliminate the white race:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOgkGzMdieI

Cultural Marxism in action… Political Correctness, the tip of the blade:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6c_dinY3fM

Cultural Marxism & Social Justice Explained:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnqIj8C2Aek

Why are we in Decline - Cultural Marxism:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VggFao85vTs

also see

The facts about slavery in North America:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5tci36bNjg

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFHa4db3hA0

Cultural Marxist Jews fund media propaganda against whites on an enormous scale:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4Ojbi6lXQI

Does this sound familiar at all? (starting at 6:52)

>https://youtu.be/kPdxhLUKZYM?list=PLo0ThsDnveH5nv5TNviBrGTX9P6IrYfIe&t=412

The Holocaust:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPc899uUb-A

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgGP_evkvOk

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxpIsep4160

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>>134055245
It blows my mind how obviously nature is telling them that it's unnatural and how much they have to suffer because of it yet people continue to get those surgeries done.

>>134050144
HOLY FUCK THOSE JUGS OH LORD THE DEVIL IS TEMPTING ME.

>>134050144
There's a reason liberals stay uninformed. It's a lot easier.

btw check this out they tried to spoof Alex Jones but it didn't work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWd6XgBVIcg

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>>134050144

Yes, I do it often. But almost all modern liberal beliefs are centered around the lie of equality. Once you realize that equality is complete and utter bullshit it's pretty much impossible to go back to the naivety you once had.

>>134055535

That song is pretty /comfy/ to be honest.

>>134055835
It's fucking fantastic.

Here's AJ's take on it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aE00IrkHk10

/pol/ is like the scourge in World of Warcraft. the more troops get sent here to attack us, the more troops /pol/ gets.

Stay for awhile op, read and talk with others. You will make a fine addition, even if it doesn't effect you until years down the road. Lacy Green is experiencing the first stages of it. Soon you will too.

Not being a bitch too afraid to challenge social consensus.

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>>134055985
We're like pic related

>>134050144
>if you changed up what you believed, etc.?
If you CHOOSE what to believe you're already retarded and should stay out of politics in general.

I believe what evidence shows. Any and every belief I hold can be argued for with factual data. Up to, and including my support of ethnostates. This study here http://jasss.soc.surrey.ac.uk/16/3/7.html is nice because the methodology is sound and easily replicated so it's hard to criticise on methodology, and it goes with studies such as Bowling Alone, along with the real world evidence such as Europe and America to show that liberals are disconnected from reality and believe what they want to be true rather than what actually is true.

Liberal ideals sound nice, in the same way that any other religion sounds nice, I would like to believe they could work, but it's a fact of life that they only work if EVERYONE, EVERY SINGLE PERSON holds them. Liberal ideals are, sometimes even literally, dropping your gun in the hopes that the other person will do the same. Yes, if they do life would be better for both of us, but in reality, I've just dropped the only thing making the playing field even and given myself a huge disadvantage in competition due to naive idealism. That is liberalism, and if I have to choose between being taken advantage of, or taking advantage of, I will choose the latter every time. I'd rather choose neither, but as I have clarified, that is not how things work, I have to choose one or the other because I cannot make other peoples decisions.
Contrast Capitalism and Communism and the effects of "opting out" of each system to see how true that is.

Right wing ideals work because they're ironically so much closer aligned to human nature. This being ironic because you'd expect the "party of science" to not think of humans as having risen above their evolutionary conditioning become perfect beings who overcome their base urges with nothing more than willpower.

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>>134050144
I doubt myself all the time in fact if someone could debunk white genocide I would be so happy to be wrong

>>134050144
Oh i did change my beliefs from a uninformed teen commie fag to a grown up conservative man.
Now go tidy up your room kiddo.

>>134056560
>Contrast Capitalism and Communism and the effects of "opting out" of each system to see how true that is.
To clarify this:
Capitalism, you only get out what you put in. If you "opt out" of the system, you will not get anything back out of the system beyond what people willingly give you because that's the general idea of Capitalism. The negative effects from non-compliancy are focused entirely on the non-compliant individual, and not on the community that he exists in.

In Communism, what you get out is independent of what you put in. If you opt out, if you stop working, pulling your weight or if you start taking more than everyone else, the negative effects felt from you non-compliance are felt entirely by the community, and not at all by the non-compliant individual. In fact, the non-compliant individual could easily benefit from such an arrangement if his "non-compliance" involved taking more than his "share".

This is the reason left wing ideals can never work. There's no more you can say about it, the idea that you are going to get 7 BILLION people to be compliant against basic evolutionary competitive urges despite a wide range in ability is so laughable it's hard to believe Communism has even a single supporter, but that just isn't the case.

>>134056640
I had actually convinced myself the "migrant crisis" was simply an economic necessity but /pol/ put a stop to that happy thought. I can't have anything.

But back to the topic on hand, if anybody could convince me that Left Wing ideals could work, could dispute my arguments on a factual basis and provide evidence that I'm wrong, I would be more than happy. In reality they're just Pavlovian conditioned to not have to justify their views and instead "wrongthink" is met with an extreme emotional reaction, and anybody who doesn't agree is argued against on this emotional basis, hence their main argument being various forms of the word heathen, except for their religion (bigot in its various forms).

>>134057139
Classic Liberalism can work relatively well but the requirements for society are so high that you would have to kill of 90-99% of people in order for it to work as the vast majority of the populous doesn't have the work ethic or moral agency to make it work ie they would all have to be philosophers who can farm hunt build their own homes and raise good traditional families via a strong set of morals often back by powerful organized religions all whilst partaking in public forums that would be civilized discussions based on purely facts and observations of the world around them in other words the ideas of classic liberalism only work in a traditional state made up of traditional god-fearing philosophers
tl;dr
Classic liberalism works in a ethno-religious monarchy and nothing else
or to simplify it even more liberalism only works when everyone is the anti-thesis to everything liberal

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>>134050144
>that liberals are right, that life would be better/easier if you changed up what you believed

Fuck no.

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Muslims. Whenever I see anything involving muslims, I know liberals are wrong about everything. And I know the world is gonna pay for it/are already paying for it.

>>134050144

>Do you ever think that you're wrong, that liberals are right,
>Do you ever think that you're wrong,
What?! I could be anyone...
>that liberals are right,
So it's anyone and the liberals?!

You see the problem here. When you claim a minority of people, many of which have mental illnesses, are causing a problem for the vast majority you cannot realistically claim the vast majority are the problem.

>life would be better/easier if you changed up what you believed
>Life would be better/easier...
No it wouldn't, a minority is trying to oppress the majority. How the fuck would life be better?
>...if you changed up what you believed
>Believed
Belief requires faith, that what is actually happening is just taken on faith. It reveals a lot about the current liberals that think this way and imprint that view on others.

Theirs no belief, theirs facts. You are asking me to ignore facts in the name of being nice. That is grossly unacceptable.

>What makes or allows you to stay on the path you've chosen here?
I prefer to know the truth. I don't substitute reality because it makes me happy.

>>134050144
I just can't lie to myself, its as easy as that. I value truth and honesty, being a good person is what motivates me, not greed. that is the whole mystery and yes some things become easier if you agree to be a willing slave but for me personally the price is just way too heavy

it also does not help that they are all satanic and followers of lucifer

>>134058405
Is it bad that whenever I see images of these queers, the urge to grab a baseball bat and smash their faces in skyrockets?

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>>134050144
Wrong.

>>134050144
>Do you ever think that you're wrong
No
>that liberals are right
No
>that life would be better/easier if you changed up what you believed, etc.?
Yes, of course it's easier being an ignorant degenerate.

>>134050144
>apply logical reasoning to leftist ideology
>actually all of it is muh emotions
Ideology D I S C A R D E D

>>134050144
No. Because I have been a liberal before. I do think however that /pol/ is very often full of shit. Especially the Christcucks.

>>134050144
No.
The Truth, now fuck off.

>>134059058
You still sound like a liberal

>>134059058
I'll never understand what people's big beef with Jesus is.

>>134059674
Because religion is for the easily fooled, same as liberalism.

Catholicism is a stepping stone to progressiveness anyways.

>>134059674
>drinking the blood of (((Jesus)))
>eating the flesh of (((Jesus)))
>JOOZ WUZ GAHD'S CHOZEN PPL
Totally not a cult, my man. Carry on.

>>134061009
You're reaction I've found over and over.

I think what you're really arguing against is the State. The State and certain religion were intertwined for a while and the state used religion to control people.

Real religion is a personal journey and with Christ it's a personal relationship. Everything else is secondary.

Of course 1000+ years of state sponsored religion has not emphasized that.

And it's a shame because it causes intelligent people like you to throw the baby Jesus out with the bathwater.

Have a sense of humor and also Jesus loves you.

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>>134050144
>liberals
>better life
>easier life
Nigga what. Libtards are completely miserable in life. They constantly look for something to hate, whether that be white men, families, other people in their group, or just people more successful than them. They live to be offended and are constantly stressed by the weight of their victim complex, insecurity and cognitive dissonance

>>134062075
>Real religion is a personal journey and with Christ it's a personal relationship. Everything else is secondary.
No, it isn't.
Ever hear that religious people are, in general, happier than the non-religious? The studies show that's not because religious people are just happier with life in general, it's because religion is a community activity, and social capital is a huge factor in happiness. Hell, religion clearly evolved in humans as a community binder, people under the same banner will look out for each other, they become your community, second only to the self and the family. People will put their community above others to the advantage of all within, so the overbearing culture of religion is (or was) advantageous to societies. Which is why, despite all of them being different, religion in general is fairly prevalent throughout all human societies. The idea that religion is personal is a complete lie, in all respects, and that idea or interpretation cannot be backed up.

And as for your "have a sense of humour" that's the EXACT same as liberals "Just be tolerant bro, just have a good time, lmao who cares don't be a buzzkill". Nothing but an appeal to emotion with no basis in fact or reason, the exact thing I specified I did not want to hear.

I respect religions like Catholicism much more than the Cult of Multiculturalism, they came to existence at a time when things could not be explained, the knowledge of the universe was a fraction of a fraction of what we have now, and they were at least something to grasp at to explain what, for all intents and purposes could not be explained. This differs from the modern religion of progressiveness which attempts to unexplain things which we have already known for millenia. But the fact of the matter is, in today's world, the evidence against every religion out there is tremendous, and the evidence for it is negligible, relying on answering the few questions we don't have the answer for yet.

>>134050144
>Yuri Bezmenov says hello

>>134050144
>changed up what you believed, etc.? What makes or allows you to stay on the path you've chosen here?
It's much less of a choice than a logical conclusion whilst following the facts. I'm going to scroll through the comments right quick...
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Yep, looks like I'm not the only one. Not that I needed a group opinion on the matter.