Why do you fucking Russians love communism so much? Why do you

>>133990394
Cant spell slave without slav, im sure they get real nostalgic seeing our commie politicians trying so hard to implement it.

>>133990595
Huh, nostalgia does do that to someone.

>>133990394
what a load of fucking shit
this is like the USA polls that every hates de trumpies!!!!
1.8% chance to win
>wins landslide
Nigger what are you doing
HOW HAVE YOU NOT LEARNT THAT POLLS MEAN NOTHING
Everyone in the USSr when it collapsed was happy as fuck, screaming with celebration because they would get to fucking eat again

>>133990394
The Russians here seem to hate communism but I guess that's bias selection...

>>133991018
*selection bias

>>133990953
You nigger serious? The fucking economy collapsed when the Soviet Union collapsed. It was a fucking hellhole and the west didn't want to help them.

>>133991018
Nah, i hear some say that it "wasn't that bad" but it probably is just nostalgia.
>>133991251
The 90s was shit for Russia, but things are probably better now.

>>133990394
Lel this isnt true. Most russians dont really care its mostly bydlo or people whose parents or grandparents told them that communism was better.

>>133990394
And polls said trump would lose, guess what he didnt. This is typical propaganda to show communism in a good light

>>133991407
I hope you are right, i don't want to hate Ruskies.

>>133991407
its not about communism m8. It looks back to a time when they had an empire and were major players on the worlds stage as opposed to bear fucking alcoholics they are today

>>133991251
This is true, but anyway most russians like how its now.

>>133990595
And the majority of your cuck nation is completely ok with leftist genocide or too afraid to even speak out. So who is a slave again?

>>133991696
But Norway isn't in the EU, i think you are mistaking them with Sweden.

>>133990394
Russia is split on the issue. Many realize how bad communism was but Russia, despite being the most damaged USSR country, was also on the top of the USSR at if was stronger than modern Russia. Other USSR countries were just drained which is why we hate communism much more than the Russians.
Anyway this state of affairs made some russians link communism to their imperialism and national pride since USSR was supposedly their golden age (as perceived by retards).
Does it make sense? No. But nothing in USSR, and post-soviet Russian for that matter, ever made sense.

Ironically they dream of communism because of nationalism. USSR had a bigger presence in geopolitics and who doesn´t want to live in a strong nation?

>>133991768
They're still massive leftists tho.

The Russian view on the USSR is really complicated and can't really be summed up using the memes and talking points Westerners are used to dealing with. Even most ultraconservative and right-wing Russians are of the opinion what happened in 1991 was a mistake.

>>133990394
Its like asking why the southern states wish the Confederacy would come back

>>133991792
I guess corruption makes then nostalgic of the USSR, along with the old people who love Stalin for some reason.
>>133991907
True.
>>133992010
Conservative and liberal do mean different things in other countries, but i guess that could be true.

>>133991251
lol ok Pedro GOnzales Juan Batista Calderone.

Fromer commie block fag here, the economy was shit since the fucking 40's. The only people who ate well were communist party members and they were few and far between.

>>133990394

Propaganda of glorious USSR has been going on for the last decade at least. Alongside with propaganda of multiculturalism - "the friendship of peoples" in soviet terminology.

Russian nationalism is dead today because Putin reformed the whole police department against organised crime into special anti-extremism department that purged Russian nationalists.

9th of May is a cornerstone of this shit today.

>>133990394
Older Russians are nostalgic about it. And who can blame them? Their country went from a literal superpower, to a South America tier shithole, in just a few short decades. Humans crave prestige and status. However, I suspect Russians under 30 don't give a fuck.

>>133991341
Maybe the sad truth is that the situation has gotten even worse with oligarchs running the country. Doesn't mean that communism is good, but that there are even worse systems.

>>133990394
Why do you think you cant have communism with nationalism...

>>133992197
>guess corruption makes then nostalgic of the USSR
Soviet states were corruption incarnate so unless it's the corruption they're missing it doesn't make sense.

>along with the old people who love Stalin for some reason.
Same reason they love communism itself.
We wuz commisars, we ruled half of the world, everyone feared us, we were on par with the US and so on.

>>133990394
"Whoever remembers the USSR has a heart, whoever wants it to come back has no brain"

I think Putin said that

Is it true?

>>133992622
I am not denying corruption isn't rampant in the country right now, it always is, even in the USSR days probably, you think the Russian people could get a break.
>>133992693
So Russians don't care as long as they can invade a small country like Latvia?

>>133992387
What I meant is that the economy went to the shitter when it collapsed. It's true that it was shit to begin with but it went to shithole tier that day.

>>133992716
Yep, that sums up the opinión of most of russians under 30

>>133992882
It's obviously gonna go to bigger shit when the natural resources of your neighbors no longer benefit your already shit economy.

>>133990394
Nostalgia and the fact that old people felt safer during the communism than during transition.

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>>133990394
isnt it just them that love communism and forced it on russia through subversion like they do all their sneaky plots?

>>133993006
I understand they would feel safer as i am sure Soviet law enforcement was probably corrupt as shit and would just kill criminals.

>>133992857
Russians are tough and they can survive without wealth as long as they have their national pride to fuel them.
I think this is why Putin once said that Russia will either be imperialistic or not exist at all. He realizes that Russian plebs need a strong hand to guide them and to beat the shit out of the enemy.
Would beating the shit out of Latvia satisfy them? Well that depends on how good propaganda would be. But as soon as Russia stops bullying other nations it's prone to destabilization and disintegration.

>>133990394
they use to be a world power that controlled half of europe
Now their strongest allies are second world countries in the middle east and they can't make it 10 miles into Ukraine

>>133993354
Yeesh, that sounds pretty bad, but wouldn't the people probably support a more nationalist leader as opposed to a commie?
>>133993582
They didn't completely lose in Ukraine, but i can understand useless allies.

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Because communism can deliver a higher standard of living than capitalism. And it can do so without imperialism.

>>133993954
I said use your real flag.

>>133993727
I suppose that any non-commie nationalist movement that grows too much will be silenced by the elites. They are linked to former regime after all and they don't want to become a target of decommunization.
Maybe in 20-30 years Russians will have their chance.

>>133994089
That is common in the country with Putin as president.

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>>133994075
>desu vult flag ignored
>white supremacy flag ignored
???

>>133993354
>But as soon as Russia stops bullying other nations it's prone to destabilization and disintegration.

That's pretty much every big imperialist nation. See US since 1945, if isn't communism it's terrorism, invading some irrelevant Middle Eastern shtiholes one after another, constant warmongering, etc.

>>133990394
It's not about ideology, in simpler terms older generation equates USSR with simpler happier times with no massive economic upheavals and pauperisation which switch to capitalism brought while newer generation thinks that with no sudden collapse USSR could have achieved better transitions in economy due stronger base (in short idealized china model). And there's also people who equate USSR with International Prestige or just wants some or all of the former rebublics back into the country.

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>>133994331
Shit, thanks for reminding me commie, now all of you lose the fake flags.

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The Donald told me so.

>>133990394
>Why do you fucking Russians love communism so much?

Come on burger, Slavs are the only ones next to you praying to the Boss's cock for any, whatsoever, kind of dripping.

You all wish trump wash half the Musso Putin is.

>>133990953

Everyone does hate Trump, though. And the polls were correct just outside their margin of error for the popular vote.

Everyone was assuming he wouldn't win because of how much of a joke it would be...

>>133990595
Like your Nationalist Norwegian ass pining for the Danish rather than the Swedish cock to be cucked to, right, trelle.

>>133994459
I know the switch to capitalism was rough, but don't you think your people would like a more nationalist system that encouraged people to embrace culture, unlike the ussr who burned down churches?

because russia lost 300 years of its history in 1991. that's more than your joke of a country even exists

>>133994569
Look, this isn't a fucking mystery. Communists doubled the life expectancy of russian people, quintupled their wages, eliminated homelessness and illiteracy and finally put an end to constant famines. Americans had to rig the 1996 elections just so a communist wouldn't get reelected. Then the standards of living plummeted, so did the life expectancy and fertility rate.

>implying there was ever a communist movement to succeed without nationalism

>>133994852
>the polls were correct just outside their margin of error for the popular vote.
If the people in charge of the polls are so retarded that they didn't base their Victory chances on the actual metric for Victory, they're worse than simply being corrupt. They're inept.

>>133995100
Communist nationalism is more about celebrating about the party.

>>133995100

Socialist patriotism is a thing you know.

>>133994884
The communist system already got people to embrace culture.

>>133994459
Soooo, gulags and secret police would have been better than Putin... But you are too scared to say fuck you, this is mine?

Honestly, Russia is great, get rid of Putin and all of Europe would ignore the manchild Trump for a real leader. Putin thinks we are still in the great game. We are not. Russia is Europe, Russia is great, and everyone loves you.

>>133994884
that's the problem right there - USSR was blowing up churches and subverting old culture with entirely new one for nearly 80 decades there's nothing to come back to it's blank state at moment and new leadership is trying to force new national identity but does so really ineptly/lazily

>>133995429
What about religion, you know, Christianity and Islam?
>>133995484
Does your leader simply refuse to embrace the culture that existed before the revolution?

It seems there's a huge influx of /leftypol/ faggots since the tranny board owner started banning people for posting in Rojava threads

>>133995662
D E S I G N A T E D worshiping spaces. Proselytizing is banned.

>>133990394
Communism id de facto nationalism for russians

>>133990394
Because the current living standarts remained the same for majority of poor fags so they dont see any big difference between s.u. and current russia .The wealth is still being stolen from nation by the new ''muh based'' putin elite

>>133995105
Hey burgercuck, did you study your own nations history?

I have one thing left for the US. Your fucking Founding Fathers were fucking intelligent, eloquent, mastermind-level political, all-round genious, political fucking thinkers.

It is. The. Only. Thing. You. Have. Left.

Pick it up or fuck you.

>>133995105

The particular polls said exactly what they were measuring, and gave a close margin of error, considering how different the past election was.

Pretty sure you're the inept one in this situation

>>133995859
I know that people practiced religion at home.

Not suprised to be honest. Not sure what it's like now but living standards used to be much better under the Soviet Union. In 1991 the country went down the shitter.

>>133990394
>Why do you fucking Russians love communism so much?
They aren't smart enough to take it to an ideological level like that. The fallout after USSR fell was worse for most of them than the USSR itself.
They don't think
>Oh gommunism is so good
They think
>Things were better back then

It's not an ideological sentiment, its a situational one.

>>133995453
Well yeah there are many who still believe that we need the "Firm Hand" - another Stalin who would purge oligarch and save the simple folk in fact a lot of Putin popularity comes from this (although even them becoming disillusioned with him)/

>>133995662
>What about religion, you know, Christianity and Islam?

Rifles.

>>133995933
And churches weren't getting burned down.

Russians don't miss Communism you retards.
They miss ruling half the world and having the other half fear them.
They miss going where ever they want*(Read: Party allows them to go) and being spoken to in Russian.
They miss the stability of being insured that no matter how big of a bonehead you are, you will be ensured work.

>>133996159
They are already the biggest nation right now, the damn USA can fit inside, what more do they want.

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>>133990394
>have strong country that values tradition and punishes degeneracy
>collapses
>whole country turns into a heroin addicted shithole
Communism might be shit, but at least they weren't all junkies back then.

>>133995504
The last great Croat. Weep for us, /po/.

>>133996371
>They are already the biggest nation right now

With their area and their nukes, no, they are not the biggest nation. USSR was a big nation like the US (was and still is)

>>133996077
You miss my point though. You don't need a "firm hand", you need people who enable you to say, "this is mine".

Why do people not simply laugh at the US now? Their military, which they can't pay, if China doesn't lend them the money?

No. Because the US says, Bill Gates, GENIOUS! Apple-guy, GENIOUS. They make money, they pay interest to China, they're good.

Putin says, "hey, that company, that sells gas, my buddies".

Honestly, Russian-bro, revolt, secretly, silently, change your world, and get rich beyond dreams.

>>133993337
Don't discuss, if they're nostalgic they clearly were obedient drones.

>>133996159
pretty much the ideology of all vatniks
>>133996371
A shadow of it's former self with not much influence beyond it's borders, with a lot of historical regions lost; it's like saying "hey county of essex in england why brits butthurt about about you have big country as is"

>>133996865
*county of essex became independent
I should go to sleep

>>133996865
The influence will come back as your nation slowly recovers.

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>>133993337
>i am sure Soviet law enforcement was probably corrupt as shit and would just kill criminals.

Putin is soviet state security agent and russian organized crime has never been stronger

>>133996865
You are like niggers who think that you will suddenly live in flying pyramids once you obtain certain bordering countries lol
Its really funny because there are countries with barely any resources not to mention size and they are more powerful and relevant than you.

>>133996159
That's a good point. The economic system of Communism/Socialism was a disaster that created problems in every Eastern Bloc nation. But the political influence associated with it was very beneficial. Any country claiming to be Communist could receive military support from a superpower and the USSR could use its influence to frighten half the world. With that fear came respect or at least hesitation to interfere with what the USSR wanted.

American Democrats of today are doing the fear mongering for the Russians. Inflating their capability and trying to reignite the Red Scare and McCarthyism. So that people will think Russians really are a superpower and out of fear, those people will let Russia do as they wish.

>>133996607
Yeah they were alcoholics. The whole lot of them.
Most people got drunk before they went to work in the morning. Only way you can get through that constant communist propaganda and bullshit is with a half liter bottle of vodka under your coat.

>>133997026
You mean as it slowly reforms the USSR? Because that's the only imaginable recovery. How can you recover anything when you have to threaten your neighbors to make them buy gas from you or pay another neighbor to launch satellites from the ramp you built. Or have all of your 3rd world investments embezzled by warlords and terrorist leaders?
Being Russian is true suffering. Your even need a visa to visit ex-colony shitholes.

>>133996763
Russia most anti-revolution country in the world at this point, there wont be any revolution people got bitten in the ass by them twice in the previous century. but there are people like you describe in your post it's just they are not in the position of power where the only real change can happen/ (Putin only interested in self-empowerment and his friends)

>>133990394
but we do not, its propoganda

>>133996159
>>133996865

Listen, no Putin Cold War thought, Russia right now would have made Trump impossible.

You have nuclear deterence, it doesn't matter.

Look at China. It doesn't matter. You need a fucking leader, who doesn't thin you are in a cold war.

You have the greatest landmass in the world. You heard about cultural capital? Did Tolstoy take a piss here? It is worth a million dollars, of you tell the Ukraine that the Crimea is theirs, and BUY every single fucking building on the island....

I am Western. Russia is great, Russiana are great, you are great to work with, great to drink with, have great, crazy ideas.

How are we enemies? WTF?

>>133997026
16% of Americans are at or below poverty line. Russians have come to expect better. Communism really spoils you like that.

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>>133991907
t cuck. Soviet was what Venezuela was now.

>Be finnish TV-Station
>Air adds about super markets
>Get a message from soviet union to stop it
Estonians and russians toned in to our channels so soviet officials had claim it was pure propaganda. Of course we cant have have fish and red meat in abundance, it must be a capitalist trick!

Russia is already a shithole but at least you can get meat from the stores now

>>133997385
Russia has so much natural resources, but no expertise to benefit from them.
Its gotten to the point where Russia is literally giving away land for foreigners to come and develop them.

another poll by communists for communists that will be cited by communists in internet debates for years to come

>publish articles telling the public trump is guilty of hacking the DNC for 9 months straight
>conduct a poll on your audience on whether or not they believe trump is guilty of hacking the DNC of 9 months straight
>publish article: 60% of americans now believe trump is guility of hacking the DNC

>>133997676
Ya I know what you mean. People were really lining up for the Purges and forced labor camps. Better days right?

>>133997509
Once they get the right leader, then things will be different.

>>133997670
>You
Don't reply to me or my flag ever again

>>133990394
Hitler was largely right. Russians need leadership and enjoy being relevant, even more so now that most of the best Russians were killed off or fled. It's not that they like Communism per se, but rather that they like stability and the respect they had in the world.

t. (mostly) Russian burger

>>133997670
>who doesn't thin you are in a cold war.
>Russiana are great

Vodka is great! It doesn't matter!

>>133990394
>listening to USSR songs
>"lets see what the /pol/ fags are up to"
>top post

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>>133994879
Why bother posting when a robot can generate these predictable responses, and indeed, this entire thread?

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>>133997804
Even at its most oppressive, USSR had 0.8% of the population in jail or otherwise. USA, right now, has more than 1% in jail.

>>133997866
oooh, you poor little provincecuck.

You think we wouldn't trade you for a 5 year gas lease? I mean, what language group are you even in? Didn't we conquer you in the 12th century so, and you only exist because Boris had a liiiiitle too much too drink and forgot to tell your militia to shoot?

>>133998113
>Even at its most oppressive, USSR had 0.8% of the population in jail or otherwise.

Dude have you seen soviet border security? Its meant to keep people in

The whole country is a gulag

>>133991018
It wasn't bad, in many ways you were more free than people in the US, you didn't have degeneracy pushed at you every step of the way, and political prostituion was less abundant. Many people did share common dreams, something maybe that cannot be said for many Americans.

>>133996671
Wasn't it the Croats that ruined Yugoslavia?
At least that's what I took away from reading about it, your area had a group that was crying about Serbs having too much power (even though a Croat was the top boss), and started the whole ball rolling towards the break up.

>>133998113
Yeah. That's because they blew their criminals brains out you dumb fuck.
>dumbshit westerner basing his knowledge on the USSR on it's statistics
Literally kill yourself.

>>133998047
A robot makes, but because we are mentally still (and you pray that we stay there), in the 17th century, and what matters is who CONSUMES.

And hey, nobody is going to make a robot who consumes, because that would just be crazy. Might as well make a robot who kills superfluous scum. No Trump voters left. Who is the largest current electorate?

>>133998113
yeah but its mostly niggers so whats your point dipshit

>>133998366
Have you seen any border security? Those guys don't fuck around, and that's during peace time.

>>133998506
Much better to base your knowledge on propaganda the West pushes.

>>133997385
National mentality is heavily influenced by climate and geography; why bother working on the crops if the early frost kill them all anyway? why bother maximizing output of the field if have so much land you can have 10 of them for the same result?
i'd imagine in a smaller country with milder climes and much higher population density with no resourses produces need to be creative. not here though

Those who don't miss USSR don't have a heart, those who want it back don't have a brain.

~ some ex-KGB guy who probably saw lots of shit

>>133998620
>USA is a literal slave state
My point is that next time we launch the nukes.

>>133998814
> niggers lack the iq to not be criminals
> so we put them in jail

muh slave state, I'm sure Ivan Denisovich would agree with you

>>133990394
Russians are mostly uneducated and naive

I have a russian stepmom in her 50s and her basic knowledge of just general shit that everyone knows is very low, shes not stupid exactly, just doesn't know fucking A N Y T H I N G

>>133998506
>Yeah. That's because they blew their criminals brains out you dumb fuck.

No, the criminals are currently running the country

Bolsheviks started out as literal bank robbers

>>133998925
I should have put 'criminals' in quotation marks.

>>133991251
It was already fucking collapsing, the dissolution just only made it happened sooner then later. If the USSR didn't dissolved, it would've most likely collapsed by the end of the millennium

>>133998907
>legalize forced labor for prisoners
>privatize the prisons so they are operated for profit
No, USA is literally a slave state.

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>>133998922
So you're saying we are burgers?

>>133998469
No, everyone but the Serbs cried about that because, for the first time, the Serbs had a massive overruling power. And it was at a time when local nationalists were being funded by diaspora and foreign intelligence.

>>133999112
> break laws and know the punishment
> sentenced by a jury of your peers
> habeas corpus
> get out when your sentence is out

If you can't do the time don't do the crime you commie wretch.

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>>133990394
Only ones who likes commie shit are either old "mah dick was hard during the Stalin and it's not now, chekmate kids" and hipster retards.
If you ask some sane old people they would say something like "It was same shit like now, but a bit different". Like you could travel to Germany and shit on partia's money, everything was cheaper and such. But then they remember "men in black cars" and the Iron Curtain and start telling personal stories about them.
Communism was never really a thing in USSR beside all the propaganda. It was always the preparation to switch. People was told that in 1980 that switch would happen, but during Brezhnev country went to autopilot mode and Andropov was an american cuck. Everything after that prior to 1991 is a grim fandango of red flag.
Eltsin was a fucking disaster, everyone was laughing at Russia, and the 1990-2001 were a shitshow. Bread cost a million, no jobs, corrupiton is everywhere, criminals are on the rise and basically a culture now, that is where gopniks came, btw. Eltsin is a drunk faggot, everyone has a mentality "well, I mean... yeah, shit happens? at least, eh... i dunno". On top of all that there is a Chehen war all of the sudden.
Then Putin came and started cleaning up this mess. Iron hand after 40 years does wonders to masses. That is why mature people like Putin so much, he is "The one who cleaned this mess". People are affraid of changes again, so nothing will change any time soon.
People know that communism was a mistake, there is a heavy propaganda on top of that in the mass media about USSR being "half is in the jail, half is guarding them".
On the flip side we don't know what the fuck do we want now. Younger faggots who don't remember 1991-2000 think that everything was great before Putin and would vote for anyone but him, older people say "well, who else but him"?
Again, only people older than 40 remember pseudocommie life.

>>133999870
So it's basically just the elderly with their nostalgia?

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If it ain't white it ain't right. Putin serves you well as a crpyto-tsar.
Hang all Bolsheviks.

>>133999870
pretty much this

In Poland in 1990 ca. 10-15% of society still belived in communism. Those were usually good people, who truly belived in class war and that kind of shit. It's a matter of faith.
I'm personally a fascist-leaning, from radical anticommunist family, but I still feel bad for them. They were striped of any representation, they were viciously mocked in media and even most of their monument were destroyed. Their own party disowned them.
I suppose that something similar happend in Russia.

>>133999870
>On the flip side we don't know what the fuck do we want now.

This is the main problem desu. Russia doesn't have any idea what to do with itself today. And it desperately needs a uniting idea, a mission. And USSR is the last time it had a clear one, so they instinctively miss it, even if don't necessarily agree with it.

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>>133999870
embrace nat. soc.

>>133990394
Before collapse
>Free education, public transport, healthcare, strongest military
After collapse
>Money needed for education, money needed for transport, money needed for healthcare, high unemployment, low wages

No fucking shit everyone shits on capitalism. Even in America I can see the problems

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Bring back comrade Stalin

>>134000840
This, embrace it, or atleast embrace some form of nationalism.

>>134000618
Meanwhile you are fighting the good fight, spending 24/7 constructing rights for poles, while working for a non-minimum-wage job abroad...

Or just living in your parents basement, like your west/pol(e)s...

>>133990394
am Russian. Fucking hate communism. It's the reason Russia is still a fucking shithole and will be in the foreseeable future (~40-50 years).

But the reason why lots of Russians love it is because there was "stability" where everyone was equally poor.

Truth be told, people would be able to get jobs after school and scientists got paid big time, since a lot of them would go and work for DOD and war machine. Aside from that, the country was poor AF - waiting lines for cars, for apartments.

Also lots of people praise Stalin, even though the ones that praise him were born after his death (kek). The ones who were born during his times and had experience under his reign, absolutely hate him. So, lots of old fags like 70s USSR at its peak which was nowhere near to Stalin's USSR, yet they think that it was Stalin who did it.

Russians also seem to like people with strong hand/strong leader/god-emperor etc.

>>134000271
Mostly, yes.
Sometimes they gather together in a really small mobs (not even 20 people), stand with commie flags and rants about muh Stalin. They are seem crazy and no one comes close to them.
Like I said, old folks like to go full nostalgia, but when you listen to them there are mostly cons in their momery about USSR:
>almost empty shops
>almost no foreing music/movies
>close to no progress after Khrushchev
>before that basically "Dark times"
People remember simpler times and lean towards them, but no one leans towards communism again.

>>134002037
Christ, so they are just crazy and nostalgic on gommunism
>>134001895
Can you please use your real flag?

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>>133990394
Because they've lost the superpower status and a bunch of territories with the USSR's collapse, you retarded lardass.
>hate nationalism
The USSR was more nationalistic than your SJW-infested shithole
>inb4 commie
I hate commies, but I know what the pre-1989 Hungary was like. Patriotism was a must and degeneracy was weeded out.

>>134002435
No need for being aggressive, but Hungary has honestly recovered quicker than Russia. You guys don't have that much poverty and you keep muzzies and kikes in their place.

>>134002330
They are delusional.
>muh free health care
We still have it, you can go to private clinic if you want and it's still quite cheap.
>muh quality of life
What >>134001895 said, everyone was poor, somehow it was a good thing.
>muh free education
It is still free, you get to uni for free unless you are retard, then pay (500$-1200$ per year, wow so fucking much)
>MUH MILITARY MUH WW2
People tend to forget anything beside Leningrad and Victory in WW2.

>>134002330
>Use real flag

Stop the disrespect to my flag, kike. Bad enough you got away with your lolocaust, you are not going to tell me on this board what flag to use.

>>133991251
>and the west didn't want to help them.

Lies

http://www.nytimes.com/1991/11/21/world/us-planning-1.5-billion-in-food-aid-to-soviet-peoples-through-moscow.html

>>134004503
Please archive those
https://archive.is/WbG9g

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>>133990394
They mostly just want all that lost clay back.

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>>133990394

They don't miss communism, they miss their empire.

>>133990394
>retarded ameriflab thinks the USSR wasn't nationalistic, especially under Stalin.

>>133990394
Russians don't love communism. They just miss being a superpower under the Soviet Union.

>>133990394
Russia is a demographically old country. Old people there see it as a time when jobs were easily available, education was mandatory, public services were at least somewhat maintained, the country held political clout, unemployment and homelessness were uncommon, and life was simple as long as you didn't call Brezhnev a fat drug addicted faggot. The Baltics are a different story though.

>>133991251
It started stagnating about 15 years earlier and was crumbling 10 years after that.

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>>134005223
Wasn't Yugo soviet allied as well? Also china should be light red too. Not to mention much of the middle east was leaning towards them and parts of South/Central America
Christ no wonder the world was shitting their pants.

>>133993954
Some parts of the Eastern Bloc improved after 1991.

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>>133999057
> t. a wehraboo nazi LARPcuck

Then why do you tout the flag of an autistic chimpout state that lasted only 12 years? If it's possible for something that could collapse any second to still somehow last up to a century on autopilot?

OP's question is just a bundle of misconception and simplification. Putinism still has widespread support among the voting motivated population, but Putinism could never exist in the USSR, so how can it be possible to love both at the same time? Why would Soviets hate nationalism, when the Warsaw Pact was a nationalist alliance; when with the death of East Germany so died the last vestiges of Prussian military tradition?

I don't think the dissolution was worth the costs. It wasn't done right, not for the right reasons, not by the right people. It's not a case of loving the ideology or not, the ideology is barely relevant. The grandpas that ran the country after Stalin had no interest in building it. Post-war USSR didn't do anything that bad, by 1964 there was no slave labor and torture going on in the prison system, and the years afterward were the historic peak of Russian overall well being. It would have been even better if they used computers for agriculture, switched some factories from hard industry to consumer goods, weren't dealing with a CIA controlled Afghanistan producing heroin, etc. That the country dissolved to the complete surprise of western analysts and spies is proof that it was a self-chosen path. Chinese success is proof that it was the wrong path to take.

Now Russia with no population controls and a citizenship for sale is undergoing soft white genocide- Already Moscow and St. Petersburg are something like 40% non-white. Most income disparate country in the world, run by Jew oligarchs. NATO is free to destabilize weak countries for its own Jew masters. Socialist guerrillas fighting in their own countries have been replaced with international jihadists.

Not worth it.

>>133995092
It wasn't doubled. The life expectancy was 67-70ish at its peak there. In the days of the Emperor it was probably 50ish.

>>133998113
The US doesn't have tens of thousands of prisoners dying of malnutrition or overwork. There are some prisoners dying but they're in smaller numbers and from different causes.

>>133990394
((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((Polls)))))))))))))()))))))))))))))))

>>134007886
Yugoslavia was communist but wasn't part of the Eastern Bloc since 1948.

Russians are slaves...slaves to communism. They are inept to create and live under anothe ideology. All their life they have been spanked by (((their))) masters. More than 100.000.000 died and they still love to suck that ideology to the end.

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Russians have always been stupid, pic related is an actual, based, non communist pan slavic country

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>>133998113

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>>134010116
>System that provides the most freedom to the worker
>Slavery

Derp

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>>133990394
Soviet Union was awesome and significantly better than the West. Just compare east and west Germany for proof of this.

West Germany: homosexual, self-hating, Jew lovers, feminist, cuckolds, bestiality enthusiasts
East Germany: nationalist, traditional, masculine, straight