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/pol/ Redpill me on the implications and prospects of a universal income
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I'll redpill you on the rules faggot

>No red pill me on X. (with no extra content or input of your own)
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It will be great, I won't have to work and will just play videogames all day with my robot wife
also won't need a driver's license because all cars will be self driving.
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>>133967313
>>133967313
My opinion: It could work in the far future but would require a huge amount of social reconstruction so people don't think of it as "free money".

Also most people would need to find productive pastimes or there could be surges in drugs/porn out of sheet boredom
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>>133967732
>huge surges in drugs/porn
from 80%+ of the adult population being addicted? nah. we're already at peak addiction.
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>>133967313
You will not receive unless you work in factory
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It will likely be needed due to automation, but something would need to change to give people an outlet to still be productive
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>>133967313
Our country is nearly $20,000,000,000,000
In debt and you want the people who do work to pay the people who don't.
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>>133968494
The debt is a bond between USA and China. It's not meant to ever be repaid. It exists to ensure there is never a total war. It's not a factor in the budget.
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>>133967732
Would never work, people would always view it as free money. Can't change human nature.
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>>133967313
Universal income prevents achievement. Why would anyone want to work harder or try harder if they get the same as everyone else for doing nothing? Why would I want to invent something when the government gives me everything I need?
Universal income will most likely be the end all of money in the future, but we're talking hundreds or thousands of years until we rely on machines for everything
>>133969530
Source on that?
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Get people accustomed to free money. People's ability/interest in self-supporting activities declines. People become dependent on free money. You now control their lives.
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>>133969530
>has no effect on the budget

Yeah, other than the $400,000,000,000 in interest payments we make every year, it has no effect on the budget.
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imo, not only would a universal income be good for us, we could probably get on without even needing money (hurr durr commiefag lmao).

Say what you want, but I still believe that the idea is nice, of everyone being as equal as it gets.
The main problem though, is us. we are, at least as of now, set to believe in capitalistic beliefs, and noone would want to work harder than someone else for the same amount of income, or even moreso, no income at all, doesn't matter if they can get what they want.

it would take a shitton of reconstruction in our entire society to make people work for the gain of everyone, not just themselves like it is now.

That being said, a universal income is probably still better than just no currency, but idk, I might be wrong. (some random examples: you won't just spend your freetime doing a hundred different things but never really *doing* anything, instead you'd settle down on a couple of hobbies, much like it is now. would be nice to try every hobby you want to without having to invest much, but since you drop out of 99% of them immediately I'd say it's not that bad.
An interesting example is how making your own startup/business might work, in both of these scenarios. it's already a huge risk in our current capitalist system, I'd say it would be better off in the universal system though. don't really know how, or even if it would work in a free/commie system, if it even would. such a sort of system would probably hold back most of innovation as a whole.. but that's my guess)
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>>133970403
inb4 "we can just print and borrow the money to cover the interest payments"
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>>133970500
Until machines replace every human job, nationalism goes extinct, and people learn to respect each others differences, universal income will never exist.
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>>133970500
The only way anything close to a universal income works is in a society where the majority of the population lives in small, wealthy towns with high social trust. Even then, what you'd end up with is a strong social safety net to fall back on instead of monthly gimmedats.

This is the exact opposite of the path globalists have us headed up. We're being forced into cities and told that race and nationality are just social constructs.
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>>133970900
fair enough
>>133970903
That definitely yeah. But there's not much we can really do regarding globalist bullshit, right?
Well, I still live in a decent village far from big cities, but even here I'm starting to feel the effect of all of this, and even though we've held on for a decent while it's marching into our country like there's no tomorrow. Guess there's pros and cons of being the "Switzerland of the Balkans", we're just west-cultured enough so that all of this gets to us.
But hell, even the Serbs are starting to feel it.

Jump a bit from this topic to (((muh social constructs))), i fucking hate it how much globalist and liberal tards push their agenda. Personally, I don't really care that much about who you are if you're okay, but it pisses me off that instead of that new elected politician in serbia, which would just be considered like any other, they made her into a special snowflake by yelling at everyone of how much of a woman and how gay she is. jesus christ, why is that so important, it's fucking politics and legal shit.

back to the og topic, yeah, we've gone far enough that there's not really much we can do to live in this "perfect world where everyone works for the better of everyone". I do hope though that the people running all of this will just make the system a bit less bullshit when a majority of work is taken over by machines, like you said, and that then we'll have a more equal playing field. I just hope innovation doesn't stop there, and that people will still be free to do what they want to.
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Why the fuck are people posting in this thread.
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