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People who are pro-life but anti-socialized-healthcare...

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People who are pro-life but anti-socialized-healthcare...

Explain yourself
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>>133924038
'Cause socialized-healthcare kills, nigga.
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Murdering babies is wrong.

Stealing is wrong.

The end, roastie btfo.
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socialism kills
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>>133924038
>Explain yourself
I have no problem with other people getting healthcare.
I just don't want to be forced to pay for it.
Nor do I believe others should be forced to pay for my healthcare.

Now attempt to explain how I'm wrong.

>inb4 you never post again in this thread.
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>>133924038

Have kids if you can afford the costs.

If not, don't.

Simple. Why steal from others to help your mistakes?
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>>133924995
>>133925141
these
>now take my sage
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>>133925141
You're an idiot and this thread isn't for you, it's for pro-life people
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>>133924038
Think about your decisions before you make them someone else's problem.
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>>133924995
Everyone puts in some to get the same out of it. It's not some evil system and people who are against it are selfish cubts
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if you can't afford, or don't know how to use birth control you have no business fucking.

Unwanted babies can always be given up for adoption.


Socialism corrupts people and kills: take a look at venezuela.
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>>133924501
this

what is so hard to understand about this
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>>133924038
you reap what you sow: have kids, suffer the consequences of your actions. Get sick without insurance, suffer the consequences of your actions.

No gibs. do NOT steal from my tax money, you greedy commie kike
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>>133925586
>Everyone puts in some to get the same out of it.
Even though that's not the case. The "rich" are required to pay a higher percentage than others and the "poor" do not have to pay as much as others.

Not to mention not everyone gets the same care.

And it's not "putting in" it's "being forced to put in".

>It's not some evil system
Then why isn't it voluntary?

>and people who are against it are selfish cubts
I'm not against charity.

Putting a gun to my head and demanding I do something otherwise I get shot is not charity. It's force.

No one deserves anything from my hard work.
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>>133925789
>t. Selfish cunt
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>>133924038
I'm pro-sterilization.
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>>133924038

U can't socialize a country of 300 mil + pleople in the same way you would a Sweden or Norway or Germany.

This is what many commies don't understand when they cry free healthcare, the country is too fucking BIG.
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>>133924038
What's there to explain? Socialized healthcare kills, therefore opposing it makes complete sense if you're pro-life
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>>133924038
Burgers love Jesus and hate gommies. Pretty simple really.
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>>133925851
It is voluntary, if you don't want to support it then you don't have to live their :3
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>>133924038
I don't want my money spent on other people's poor decisions. I don't give a damn about them or their babies.
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Why? What is tyhere to explain? Close your legs or suffer.
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>>133924038
>if you support life you must support an inhumane system that prioritizes killing people for the benefit of the state
Take your broken system and leave
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>>133925409
You can be pro-life and choose not to have children. Either abstain from sex or choose birth control. Not difficult.
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>>133924038
>being pro-life when most abortions are performed on non-whites
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>>133925586
>everyone puts in
Now this is shitposting
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>>133926088
>88
I disagree, hitler
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>>133924038

I'm not really pro life or pro choice.

I want white women to stop killing their children, but I want more nigs and spics to kill theirs.

Remember, crime has reduced overall in the last few decades looking at the statistics because two generations of niggers were mostly aborted.
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>>133925873
>emotional argument instead of a logical one

truly a leafpost
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>>133925939
I get the feeling that a lot of the problems the US faces today could be easily solved if the federal government delegated more authority to the states.
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>>133925873
If you are selfless there are charities. Let us selfish fucks alone if you have such poor opinion of us.
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>>133925989
>It is voluntary,
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/voluntary?s=t
done, made, brought about, undertaken, etc., of one's own accord or by free choice:

> if you don't want to support it then you don't have to live their :
That's like saying "If she didn't want to be raped she shouldn't have been a woman."
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>>133925586
>people who are against it are selfish cubts
Yes we are. Why would you associate yourself with us then.
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>>133926181
>>133926154
You need to be changed, repent and love the neighbor
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>>133926280
>Comparing supporting universal healthcare to rape
How you have fallen
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>>133925989
how about YOU make a leaf and blow yourself somewhere else instead of running another fine country to the ground with communism, canacuck

>>133926288
I actually do love my neighbor, we go to the same church and drink together. We don't give free shit though, you work for it, you earn it

>>133926356
It rapes your paycheck and you cannot deny this
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>>133926356
>>Comparing supporting universal healthcare to rape
Lets see...one is forced upon you by the government the other is forced upon you by a nigger.

Both leave your ass feeling sore in the morning.

>How you have fallen
Said the faggot that thinks other people have a right to what I've worked for when they haven't earned it for themselves.
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>>133924038

I'm pro-life because I don't want state-sanctioned murder for a woman's poor judgement

I'm anti socialized health-care because I'm against state-sanctioned robbery of my hard earned money for others' poor judgement.
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>>133926427
>Emotional arguments
Like children
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>>133924038
"Leave me the fuck alone" means don't force me to keep you alive and don't fucking force me to die.
If you're going to force anyone to die it should absolutely be yourself.
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>>133924038
>if you don't want to murder babies, why won't you pay child support for some nigger's kids?
This is why I support abortion for non-whites and low class whites.
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>>133926288
If I ever see you you'll thank heaven others will pay for your health.

Sage fuckface.
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>>133926515
thanks for describing yourself >>133925873
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>>133926674
Stating they are selfish is a logical perception. They choose to horde their greed when they have the option to help their fellows
This is a selfish act.
The Lord shall see you burn for your sin of greed
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>>133925938

Underrated. Full support for that.
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>>133926783
>an adjective is now a logical argument

lmfao, the absolute state of leaf arguments. If adjectives are arguments, then you are guilty of wrath and envy of the highest order for forcing people to give up their own labor just because they're richer than you. Thus you must burn in hell for twice as long because I've got two adjectives compared to one of yours.

keep going leaf, you're a walking talking joke of a country and person
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>>133926783
What is it about "you don't have a right to other people's things" that you don't understand?

>This is a selfish act.
So if the government decides that it wants your home and it takes it from you, are you selfish and greedy if you oppose the government?

>The Lord shall see you burn for your sin of greed
Now you're judging people? I thought only God could judge people.
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>>133924038
WHO WILL THINK OF THE NIGGER CHILDREN
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>>133927147
not their parents, that's for sure
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>>133927088
>Implying I'm a christcuck
I only enjoy the concept of 7 deadly sins.
The rest is crap
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>>133924501
spbp
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>>133927088
>Strawman
>Strawman
>Strawman
If I flamed you, you'd burn away to nothing
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There will be socialized healthcare in the White ethnostate. White brothers and sisters will not allow abortion or obesity, just free surgery and recovery time for those who need it.
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>>133927033
>Triggered the christcuck
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>>133927554
still not an argument lad, try again

ungrateful faggots like you are exactly why I will continue to proudly vote against commie policies, no way in hell would I want more entitled twats like you around. Hope you or someone you know gets cancer
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>>133927481
>If I flamed you, you'd burn away to nothing
Nigger, you don't have shit.

You commies are all the same. Steal from others because you're lazy faggots.
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>>133925409

Well, aren't you a genius.

If you can't afford healthcare for your kids, then don't have them.
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>>133924038
NAP
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>>133925990
Effectively this.
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>>133927695
My uncle died of a brain tumor and my grandmother is dying of rectal cancer. I don't like either of them, waiting in that dead grandma inheritance though
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>>133925586
i go to the doctor about once every 5 years

tell me how it's fair that i pay thousands of dollars for healthcare that i don't even use, so that fat retards can go every other day
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>>133927716
I work for my shit too but I'm not such a sad shell of a human that I'd deny my fellows survival
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>>133925586
Whats wrong with being selfish?
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>>133924038
I don't like paying for other people's mistakes.
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>>133927901
I have a naturally healthy body too senpai, doesn't mean I'm suddenly entitled to healthcare tax exemption
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>>133927864
good. Hopefully you get both a brain tumor and rectal cancer simultaneously
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>>133924501
/thread
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>>133927954
Same here but for some reason I have to see you shitpost anyway. Parents were too poor for condoms I guess
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>>133928028
>Emotional response
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>>133924501

much better here:
>>133927766
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>>133928007
>I have a nice tight asshole, doesn't mean I'm suddenly exempt from getting it pounded by the state

leaf logic, everybody

>>133928109
bring an argument, mr. selfish, I'm still waiting
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>>133928007
statism
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>>133924501
spbp
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>>133927954
What if they can make it up to you somehow?
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>>133928174
>Gay argument
Faggot
>>133928228
>Ancap memer
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>>133928276
see
>>133927766
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>>133928276
they can make it up by not forcibly taking my money at gunpoint in the first place

>>133928329
I thought I would use an example you would understand, speak your language so to speak, you are a leaf after all

anyways, I'm still waiting on that argument
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>>133928329

then you are allowing me to agress against you
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>>133924038
>giving something a chance vs someone who continuously squanders them
Are you even trying?
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>>133928471
>Taking your money at gunpoint and not giving it back to you
Hope you'd never have a serious injury that you can't afford to pay for.
Your arguments are idiotic like saying
>Why should I pay car insurance if I never get in an accident
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>>133928471
Yeah but what if you're in a national socialist setting and your white brethren has been injured in the mine which harvested the gold for your new processor, and everyone who donates is reimbursed with a discount on the processor?
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>>133928476
>But what if the child consents?
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>>133927936
Goes against what it means to be human
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>>133924038
I'm not pro life but it's not difficult to see you asked a stupid question. Pro life to them means don't murder a child. Socialized healthcare is taking your money to give healthcare to someone else.
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>>133928692
>Hope you'd never have a serious injury that you can't afford to pay for.
It's called private insurance leaf, I'm sure the concept is lost among your people though

I have nothing against insurance, just everything against being forced to pay for other people's mistakes at gunpoint. Nice try moving the goalpost. Next argument, please, I'll be waiting

>>133928725
Then I donate the money to him privately. Unfortunately we don't presently live in a national socialist setting, so your point is moot
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WOMEN'S OPPRESSION IS A HOAX, WOMEN ARE THE OPPRESSORS! EVERY YEAR WOMEN WORLDWIDE KILL 50-60 MILLION OF THEIR OWN BABIES BY WAY OF ABORTION, WOMEN ARE EXTERMINATING THE FUTURE OF MANKIND(BOTH FEMALE AND MALE FETUSES OF ALL RACES)! FEMINISM IS MENTAL ILLNESS, IT'S DESTROYING ALL PEOPLE! ASSHOLES
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>>133928962
>Being human means being a submissive cuckhold

There is a difference between a Canadian Human and a rational one
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>>133928996
Or do you? What if we were to create a natsoc online community where anons help each other get married and have white children?
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>>133928996
No one is forcing you to do anything at gunpoint, retard.
You only use your gunpoint meme because while alternatives exist, you don't like them so you choose to face the gun instead.
>Guys guys I'm being forced to do this thing how terrible
>>But options A B and C over there..
>Nooo I being forced see?
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>>133928727
and if he does, when he is able, then fine
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>>133929137
>Being human means being a submissive cuckold
No, it means don't be a dick.
A subhuman like you wouldn't understand
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>>133924038
it is not the role of the american government to redistribute our taxes in the form of entitlements like welfare
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>>133929212
>American pedos
Just normal burger things
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>>133928962
you dont even know what either mean
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>>133929320
that currently makes up a full 1/3 of the budget.

it's just wrong
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>>133929322
you replied to wrong post
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>>133929153
...then I donate my money privately to them like any other private charity.

I don't see your point. I'm not paying for Jamal and his family just because he lives in my country. End of story. If full NatSoc ethnostate was achieved, I might reconsider since a lot of things would be vastly different, but as it is, just a complete and flat out NO to jewish commie tricks

>>133929200
stop paying your taxes then leaf, see what happens. Try to operate a small business without giving a single cent to Uncle Sam or Big Daddy Trudeau

>j-just go move somewhere else!
Same argument can be made for commies like you if you don't like OUR system as well. Garbage evasive argument. There is no "alternative", you either pay or you don't, gunpoint or the shekel tithe, goyim.
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>>133925586

Explain why your wait times for treatment averages five months, leaf.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/health/healthcare-wait-times-hit-20-weeks-in-2016-report-1.3171718
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>>133929263
>ACT LIKE HOW I WANT YOU TO ACT OR ELSE

the only subhuman here are beta's like you who can't stand people not falling for your jewish commie tricks
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>>133929511
Of course, but I believe the point of the thread could be utilized as to create a narrative that allures more compatriots in order to establish the ethnostate ASAP, an isolationist zone with free healthcare? What White person wouldn't want to escape multiculturalism and join?
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>>133929662
Specially considering the fact that when the majority of whites segregate, the rest will follow out of fear and hatred. It's the perfect plan and all we need is one foot in the door.
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>>133929511
>Have welfare
>REEEEE EVIL HEALTH CARE
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>>133929613
Not enough doctors
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>>133929662
tell me after you've established your ethnostate then, not beg for money before it. I'll privately donate as charity, sure, but no vote for statewide support yet
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>>133929639
Treat others how you yourself want to be treated
Treat others like shit, get shit on faggot
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>>133929809
Good to know. I will let you know when, I'm very close.
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>>133924038
You can't legislate morality.
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>>133924038
>LMAO IF UR OPPOSED TO USING TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO PAY FOR ABORTIONS YOU MUST BE IN FAVOR OF USING TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO PAY FOR ALL KINDS OF OTHER SHIT LMAOOOOOOO

fuck off
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>>133929804

So it's almost as if when you socialize something, you start having shortages of it....
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>>133929867
White Aryan leaf seeking ethnostate
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>>133929772
still not an argument

>>133929804
o I am laffin

reap what you sow, nigger

>>133929844
Exactly, I don't steal your shit, you don't steal mine

I'm glad we're able to reach an understanding that universal healthcare is currently universally a bad idea
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>>133929904
No it's because capable people choose to pursue stupid shit like the arts
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>>133929963
...which are paid for publicly with YOUR tax money

Pftttt ahahahaha classic leaf
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>>133929963

Yet somehow in the U.S. I can get treated in five days, and you have to wait five months.

Who wants to kill sick people again?
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>>133929934
Contact Sam Hyde. He's our leader.
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>>133930029
The fuck do your colleges run on if not tax money?
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>>133930090
I'm half Russian
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>>133924038
Not the same thing. Abortions aren't free.
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>>133930186
>Be leaf
>Consistently maintain 25% thread dominance
Feels good man
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>>133924038

Because playing in traffic with your genitals isnt everyone elses problem.

Fuck off roastie.
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>>133930186
So?
As long as we unanimously agree that you are White, you are allowed in the ethnostate, given we have enough females on reserve. If you bring your own female and a useful skill you are guaranteed entry.
Meds, Nords, Anglos, any White will be allowed in our ethnostate.
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>>133930114
I'm telling you, the idea of private property, private ownership, and privately funding things is such a mind-blowing concept! It's almost like you can use your own money (that you worked for) to pay for things like college, instead of using a government to steal it for you. Crazy, right?

this is a completely foreign idea for leafs but I think it might be revolutionary up there
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>>133930405
What if my female has a penis?
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>>133930427
Filthy ancap
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>>133930676
ad-hominems are not an argument, try again leaf
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>>133930653
degeneracy will not be allowed, if you are a fat fuck you will be assigned a personal fitness trainer and not allowed to buy junk food, porn will be banned and so will abortion. A no-fault divorce is the only option and women won't be allowed to vote
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>>133930784
>Not an argument
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>>133930791
>Fat fuck
Thankfully I am not
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>>133931045
It's just an example.
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>>133930950
that's right, repeat it to yourself as necessary. That is, until you're actually able to construct an argument other than an ad-hominem

doubt that's gonna happen anytime soon though, lmao
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>>133931128
Educate yourself burger
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>>133924501
This
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>>133924038
stupid bait
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>>133931163
still not an argument just as predicted jej

c'mon. I'm waiting. Go. Hit me with your best shot, leaf
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>>133924038
It's called personal responsibility and it reflects poorly on your parents that that isn't obvious to you
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I'm evil because I don't want to pay for fat people to get healthcare when they don't care about their own health really opened my eyes thanks retard
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>>133926356
It is raping me to force me to pay for stupid obese people who chose to become overweight. If you have a problem which by no fault or by little fault of your own that is medical I have no problem helping that person but that doesn't mean the government should have to steal peoples money and give it to them. Kill yourself communist.
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>>133931295
>Give me an argument to counter all my non arguments
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>>133931476
Obesity was caused by you by making lots of food readily available.
Pay for your mistakes
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>>133931494
>still not an argument

You're the one who pulled the ol' ad-hominem here leafy, not me

I'm still waiting. Scroll back up if you've already forgotten what we're talking about, maybe that brain tumor is coming onto you faster than you know. Hit me with your best argument, go on, I'm all ears

who am I kidding, you're all bark and no bite, all leaf with no branch haha

>>133931615
>it's capitalism's fault people aren't starving to death

prime leafpost as always, comrade
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>>133931768
>t. Selfish subhuman
You're literally no better than a nig
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>>133931768
It used to be that the wealthy were fat because they could afford a lot of food. With a mcdicks on every corner anyone can be fat.
Sorry you have to suffer the consequences of your actions
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>>133931989
it's a person's free will to get fat, gtfo trolling leaf you kill pretty much every thread
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>>133931915
>call a leaf out for ad-hominems
>he continues with ad-hominems

like clockwork, so predictable KEK

>>133931989
>With a mcdicks on every corner anyone can be fat.
If they choose to fall for the fast food meme instead instead of homecooking and exercising like god intended. The point here is that people are free to choose

>Sorry you have to suffer the consequences of your actions
you mean my healthy diet? then I take full credit. The only people suffering here are yours when you're forced to pay for their shit from their bad habits and then WAITLISTS to boot lmao

still waiting on that argument leaf, keep going
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>>133932220
>It's a person's free will to get fat
Actually (((they))) constantly promote unhealthy food places to make people fat and less capable of resistance
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>>133932320
You'll get my argument when you support socialized healthcare
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>>133932367
well looking down at your fat gut is a good enough reason to resist
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>>133932433
>Fat
>Burger
>Implying
I'm a cute thin leaf, my BF agrees
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>>133932367
they're still not forced to eat it, you spineless drone

>>133932432
>y-you'll just "get" my argument!!!

yeah, and you'll "get" learning to FUCK OFF from other people's business if they don't want to feed your jewish commie trick.

Still waiting on a real argument, leaf
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>>133932475
Again, this is just an example.
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>>133924038
people who are pro choice but dont give the man a choice?

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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>>133932564
His body, her choice
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>>133932509
Still waiting on your support for universal health care
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>>133932524
>J-just an example senpai
>S-SORRY
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>>133932564
REKT
E
K
T
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>>133932509
>They're not forced to eat
I'm sure you're intimately familiar with the concept of being weak willed
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>>133932703
not gonna happen unless you have an argument

so pretty much never lmfao. C'mon leaf, I'm calling you out, get me an argument, doesn't your government provide such things to those in need? guess not lul

You can keep cowardly prancing around the point to save face, I'm the one laughing my ass off every step in the way
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>>133924501
/breat
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>>133932806
>this is coming from someone in favor of forcing other people to pay for their mistakes at gunpoint

Had a hearty chuckle. Still not an argument though, they were not forced to eat garbage food, and nor should I be forced to pay for Jamal's healthcare that inevitably results from such poor dietary habits. Try again
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>>133924995
So if a criminal kills your loved one, why should my tax dollars pay for it? It's your family member, you pay for the court fees.
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>>133924038
>pro life
>explain anything

Pro lifers have no basis for their nonsense, neither the Bible nor science says that a fetus is a human.
The Bible for one tells that life begins at the first breath.

We must not forget that the only ones using abortion are piss poor, whores, rape victims and, most importantly, people who don't want to give birth to deformed animals.
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>>133932879
>I'm the one laughing my ass off
>Makes long posts as opposed to my short posts
The one enjoying themselves is I
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>>133933123
Need a registry of pro lifers in case thry shoot up a planned Parenthood
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>>133925789
>get raped
Or
>have a literal nonhuman downie
>your fault

No. Besides, your naive idiotism will kill us. Any child a whore or piss poor shit brings to life will be a leech, a future issue. Kill them while it's legal
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>>133933130
>I don't have an argument so I'll just comment on something irrelevant yet again

genuinely curious how will the eternal leaf weasel his way out of this one this time, omg my posts are so long ahahaha

Still waiting on that argument m8, don't care how long or short it is, it just has to be a valid one
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>>133924501
>Murdering babies is wrong
>Leaving somebody who can't afford a surgery to die is ok
lolbertarians
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>>133933064
>Other people's mistake
Just because you would not walk the same path does not mean it is a mistake for others to do so considering all our paths have the same end point
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>>133925979
>love Jesus

The Bible states that Adam became a living being once God gave him the first breath. No life before birth according to the Bible
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>>133933277
Kek wills it!
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>>133924995
The problem comes when you get in a situation when you can't get healthcare. Are you ready to die in the name of capitalism? If not then don't be a twat about something that will benefit you at some crucial point.
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>>133933213
It is your fault, you put down your own downie. Keep me out of it

>Any child a whore or piss poor shit brings to life will be a leech, a future issue
not if they're not given any gibs

>>133933277
wow...so deep...so this is the power of leafposting...

Ramble all you want, that's still not an argument. Come back when you've got one
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>>133933333
Pls be a fellow leaf
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>>133924038
I am pro socialised healthcare but it would never work in the US. Burger culture would not allow it they are too indoctrinated by the "true free market exists in a real world implementation" jew. The moment anyone tries the insurance companies and common plebs would ruin it, burgers are incapable of respect for civic assets and resources and seek to exploit it for personal gain, as their Jewish education teaches.

Also pro choice, fathers should be able to opt-out too to reduce financial trap pregnancies.

Additionally for things like mothers that get their unborn babies addicted to opiates I am for compelled abortions and sterilisation. (Temporarily) sterilise mothers receiving child benefit welfare too, put it all in a voluntary contract if it would prevent burger-tisim screeching about muh freedom if you like.
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>>133933391
>Come back with an argument
I don't need to anymore. Assuming the thread bump limits I've taken up 1/6th of it with leafposting
The winRAR
IS I
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>>133933391
>random genetics are your fault
As much as I hate Nazis, their victory would have ensured that we could kill these things after birth at any time.

Further more, take away their gibs while letting them breed will not change anything. Niger is piss poor yet has a 7.0 birth rate. 7.0....
When you take away the gibs and let them breed you will get 1917 all over again
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>>133933387
Of course they're not ready to die for capitalism. Their conservative until it happens to them or a loved one. I knew a guy years who was right wing, Fox news zombie, the works. His kid gets sick, can't get aid from the state so he turns to federal aid (obamacare). I don't take their views seriously anymore.
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>>133924038

i'm pro-life, but if Gillian Anderson wanted to have an abortion in my mouth, I might not say no.
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>>133933522
>I'm literally giving up: the post

lmfao wow, I expected nothing more from a leaf. And not a single argument was made that day

>>133933549
>take away their gibs while letting them breed will not change anything. Niger is piss poor yet has a 7.0 birth rate. 7.0....
When you take away the gibs and let them breed you will get 1917 all over again
You forgot that you need to eat to support pregnancy, and to eat without gibs means they actually have to goddamn work for once. Niggers simply can't breed to the extent or rate that they're going without gibs. They will starve, they will die, they will piss off for once. Hopefully they will move to Canada and leech elsewhere far far away
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>>133933759
>Can't handle the fact he wasted all that time replying to bait
>Haha you quitter!
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>>133933823
>he wasted all that time replying to bait
the irony is lost on you, my friend :^)

sinking down to "hurr I was just pretending" too, christ what a riot this guy haha
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>>133933881
Whatever helps you sleep.
Im at work
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>>133933881
What a whiny fucking cunt you are lol. Dye your hair orange and go rant on twitter like a 16 year old girl.
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>>133933228
>>Leaving somebody who can't afford a surgery to die is ok
Consider the following:
>in "free-healthcare" system you have queues instead and people are left to die before their turn, just because there aren't enough doctors or hospital capabilities to perform surgeries
>all other who manage to wait several months are already withered down by the sickness
>government tries to cut down expenses to make it more accessible for everybody to make their own needed surgeries
>budget cuts to make more surgeries leave hospital infrastructure neglected and doctors underpaid
>because of this queues start to be longer and longer

Only possible solutions:
- exclude some of surgeries
- raise more taxes and hope that it will suffice and reduce queues
- make all doctors slaves, that perform surgeries in a tents

There is no free-healthcare
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>>133934043
>404 argument not found

Yeah, and I'm on the moon. Irrelevant, cowardly, and quintessentially Canadian replies. My bad, I take it you're one of those French-Canadian types since you surrender so soon

>>133934139
not an argument
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>>133934211
I wasn't making an argument I was making a statement. It's 4chan, not a Georgetown debate, dumbfuck lmao
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I think socialized healthcare is inherently a good thing. Yeah, I agree that taxation is theft, but I'd rather pay little bit more taxes than die on splinter I can't afford to get removed. I also support the co-existence of privatized healtchare, if someone is in hurry and has the money, they should be allowed to get their treatment from private clinics.

Though this doesn't mean I support giving free handouts to """""refugees""""" or abortions. Refugee problem can be solved by not taking in any paperless weirdos, and abortion problem can be solved by better sex-ed and by embracing conservative values.
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>>133934553
Thanks for admitting you still have no argument
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>>133934729
The states with the highest teen pregnancy are texas, Mississippi, etc (the meth belt). How are those conservative "values" working out?
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>>133934750
Wasn't an argument
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I don't want to pay for somebody else's abortion anymore than I want to pay for somebody else's healthcare.
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>>133934159
Nobody is talking about free healthcare. We are talking about accessible healthcare. Don't be a twat to help your fellow countryman because that might save your life as well.
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>>133935069
That's right, you said so yourself: you have no argument
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>>133935269
Actually the guy, to whom I responded, was talking about that "leaving somebody to die, just because somebody can't afford surgery is wrong"
Also
>backtracking
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>>133935167
I don't want to pay for your roads or court fees if a criminal kills some cunt family member or friend of yours but I do. The world doesn't revolve around you faggot.
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>>133934159
Absolute bullshit.
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>>133934992
Conservative doesn't mean 101% absence of sexuality. Those states are part of the bible belt where the kids are being lied to or outright denied the knowledge about sex. Lying about sex is just going to get kids more curious about it.
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>>133935589
and why is that?
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>>133935627
Really? So the conservative stance is sex ed in schools? You should probably tell that to every republican politician and voter.
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Theres a number of opinions being expressed here that seem expressively dissmisive or ignorant of the premise that, AT LEAST ON SOME LEVEL, the level preventing PLAGUE IN THE STREETS and SICKNESS OUTBREAK, you know trivial, unimportant shit,

to at least SOME degree, public health is a public good.

You aught to pay at least SOMETHING toward that in taxation, and if you disagree, you're a fucking idiot.

At SOME level, public health is needed to prevent your food being infected, unless you think you can live entirely off your own produce....
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>>133935440
That's exactly the point. Healthcare is accessible if everyone contributes to it. If you're an edgy capitalist and you get in a financial situation and your edgyness stabs you instead, you are fucked. Why? Because you can't afford your treatment.
And yes, leaving somebody for death just because she/he is poor is not okay. The free market is very bad meme if you're not filthy rich.
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>>133934159
"make all doctors slaves". This is the thing conservatives don't understand, not everyone is a selfish prick as they are. There are actually doctors who go into the field because they want to help, not because they see dollar signs.
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>>133935813
I'm talking about conservativeness in the literal sense.
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>>133935502

Me neither, and there's no reason why you or I should have to pay for those things, just like there's no good reason why you or I should have to pay for anybody else's abortion or healthcare. I know that the world doesn't revolve around me, but these people who expect me to pay to support them sure do seem to think that the world revolves around them.
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>>133936050
I take it you're ready to die in the name of capitalism if you can't afford your treatment? Or not? What do you think?
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>>133936050
No it's called a common good. Taxes are the price you pay for living in a 21st civilized society. If you don't like it, move to the jungle and make your own living there, boot straps. You're acting absolutely entitled as fuck. You don't get to grow up in a stable world built by previous generations and then not fucking contribute. Grow up.
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>>133936447
>You don't get to grow up in a stable world built by previous generations and then not fucking contribute. Grow up.
Literally a slave. Kys. The old folks haven't built anything but a prison for us. The lower and middle class receive 20% Max return on their output, and it will only get worse. No RULERS, No KINGS
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>>133936592
Faggot you're sitting on your ass speaking your opinion on the internet right now. Oh yeah, the fucking horror you must be going through. Fuck off, cunt. You could have been born in biblical times and be forced to build pyramids.
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>>133936283

I think that I'm responsible for my own body and health.
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>>133936283
I would not expect anyone to pay for things that happened to me.
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>>133936447

Good goy.
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>>133936768
We have to deal with niggers stealing our money.
Checkmate.
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>>133934992
>>133934992
The answer is niggers you dumb nigger, every fucking time.
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