Why are women warriors so prevalent in fantasy literature and

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What if I play a trap elf who is definitly not gay. She (male) just likes the balance of female armor.

>>133899887
Pen & Paper, video games, comics have a male target

men like fights and boobs. That's why the media is full of good looking woman

>>133900104
faggot

>>133899887
I couldn't care less if they show up in fantasy settings. It bothers me when they push this shit in historical titles.

Because it's fantasy lol.

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>>133900104
dude, shut the fuck up.

>>133899887
is part of the feminist agenda. personally I never play as a woman, I can't imagine what a dumber and weaker person would do, so I can't roleplay as a woman

Same reason you get lots of blacks as knights and medieval warriors. Their own history is primarily devoid of such glamour and excitement and they just really really think swords and bows and stuff are fun.

To be honest it's perfectly harmless right up until they try to turn it into a political or historical revisionist statement. At that point it's no longer about the fun anyway, so why should I be expected to accept it?

>>133900233
agree. like the nigger characters in the BBC series about Troy

>>133900268
/thread

>>133899887
>In all RPG games, women are just as strong as men which is unrealistic
>in games... unrealistic

The good news is that it's just a game. The bad news is that there no cure for your autism.

>>133899887
>Why are women warriors so prevalent in fantasy literature and RPG videogames?
Why are elves and dragons so common in fantasy? Because they're cool and unrealistic.
The character I'm playing now I was going to have be female but that'd be weird. Think he'll just crossdress instead, a gnome in a dress could pull off looking like a preteen girl.

>>133900104

if you aren't going full female then isn't it just crossdressing?

>>133900395
this is an historical revisionist statement.

The same people who think it is okay to put nigger in historical Europe would go ape shit if somebody would make a movie about Shaka Zulu and make him white

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>>133900522
Checking these gets.

>>133899887
Because RPG's are role playing games and women are a role, to play.

>>133900233
Also this.

>>133900299
denial : the post

>>133899887
>fantasy
OP really is a fucking dumbass

>>133899887
>Why are women warriors so prevalent in fantasy literature and RPG videogames?
>fantasy literature
>fantasy

That thread where OP answers their own question in the question itself.

>>133899887
nerds are all betas and will kow-tow to whatever they percieve as an authority figure, i.e. the dangens and drogans whatever, shop? company?

I had some weird hookups with a crazy athlete girl in college and now I can only fantasize about getting fucked up by strong women :(

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>>133900233
I have a theory on why jews are trying to put females in position of authority because females are seen to be more lenient towards jews and they historically vote left [sorry couldn't find the source for this claim, some other anon could help me?].

not to mention that leftist women get worshiped by betas orbiters meanwhile AntiNWO Females get ostracized by the men of their movement. so again all the more probably that women who reach places of power will be worthless ZOG scum so I assume that is why they like them so much of lately.

>Dungeons & Dragons (a roleplaying game) have recently started ret-conning major lore characters to be black or Asian, male gods of the setting that were created in the early 70's are now randomly female/herm instead of male.
Which setting are you talking about?
D&D consists of a multiverse with all sorts of different settings. It's not a setting in and of itself, rather it has certain concepts for gods and races written into its rulebooks that can be inserted easily into whatever setting you use.
The biggest setting by far is Faerun, which is the setting of the Forgotten Realms franchise, but I haven't seen or heard of any such retcons, and I can't imagine the setting even needing them for that. The most iconic character from the franchise (by my estimation, anyway. I can't imagine anyone but Grenwood himself being a fan of Elminster) is a Drow elf (nigger elf) with a black panther companion.

>>133899887

Because we like looking at women.

>>133899887
>passive virgin princesses
Until you travel to the court of the Holy Roman Empire and the Heir Apparent conspires with satanic Catholic priests to kidnap you and rape you for the purposes of a Black Sacrament, but you live through it and prove to the Emperor that this took place to you and he disavows his own son and heir.

>>133900679
explain.

>>133900993
stop watching porn, helpless orbiter.

>>133900854
You're not alone there

>>133900581
Well OP was talking primarily about fantasy universes.

Who wants to look at a fucking dudes ass all day.

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>>133900854
tracked the liberals.

>>133900945
I'm going to guess he means Greyhawk. But i dont know why anyone would even read lore after 4e.
>Drow elf (nigger elf)
Drow have a beautiful culture of living underground and eating dirt.

the good thing about Pen&Paper is your can do whatever you like. You could run a campaign where you help Hitler to kill all jews

You can ignore all the MUH DIVERSITY changes they made

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>>133901243
you don't look at his ass. you ARE him you fucking idiot.

that is the point of the character.
you dumbass.

>>133900945
>>133901370

nigga i don't play DnD or any tabletops but I just know the fantasy trope of unrealistic gender equality them. I've played Pillars of Eternity and Skyrim and that's about it

>>133901488
if Im him why am I looking at myself from third person?

>>133901131

>that flag

>fully retarded

checks out

>>133899887
I miss playing crazy dyke characters back when it was funny, not like this...not like this

>>133901666
how were they different compared to today?

>>133899887
OP must be talking about all the fags who play 4E.
Redpilled nerds play 3.5

>>133899887
Women do nothing but selfishly consume things that they relate to.

They're the perfect market for vapid power fantasy books. They're probably written by algorithms these days because women would never notice.

>>133901858
3.5 is a broken pain in the ass with little reward.

>>133899887
Teen boys want eye candy.

I personally hate helpless women, both in media and reality.
Women should be made to be genuinely strong and resilient.
Western cultures idea of empowerment is often the opposite of this.

My gf used to fight mma (over 30 fights under her belt. She's willing to tank punches to get her hands on her opponent.
It's the reason we're together.

>>133900233
That's really it right there.

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Because girls are cute. You really want to read a thousand pages and a video game about some dude or about some kawaii fucking bitches?

>>133899887
Because mostly lonely, straight guys play D&D, and like to watch jiggly bits happen?

>>133901530
So, you're just talking out your ass? Fucking hell, you're like people complaining about a comic series being changed when you dont even read that series or any comics.
>>133901858
4e is cool, if you just want fun streamlined combat. 5e is for fags.
>>133901953
3.5 is great, it has all the books

>>133899887
Ive noticed some diversity in Pathfinder and a few other things (not really into /tg/). I can look past it though because I actually enjoy the Pathfinder adventure card game and its just fantasy shit anyway.

>>133901858
^this, Op go play 3.5 like an adult and get out of the kids pool

>>133902236
and it is easier to igore the diversity shit in Pen and Paper

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you wanna know my sollution? don't play DnD.
don't play pathfinder [poz finder]
don't watch Wonder Succubus or Game of Cucks.
play myfarog or pirate DnD Cyclopedia and never buy another book [it hass all the info] that is how you just watch your hands from that mess.

>pic related.
>>133901858
only get the cyclopedia, it has content for until lvl 30 and ascension to godhood and all rules you would ever need.
>>133901643
are you still in puberty?

>>133899887

A fa/tg/uy on /pol/. Neat.

>>133901530
>unrealistic gender equality them
The reason is game balance, retard. For male and female characters to not be mechanically identical would require a lot of shit.

>>133899887
i would love to see a Pen & paper RPG made by /pol/

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>>133900528
I guess you are right, though my character sometimes presents as a girl because it is easier than explaining to every Nov. And sometimes she thinks about having sex with her companions so they won't be so stressed. But thats fine because thats what friends do for eachother.

>>133902177
>it has all the books

With all of the completely broken classes and magic items. Ever play with a factotum?

Because it's written by pathetic virgin nerds who have failed at masculinity and outsource it at their ideal lovers. Next question

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>>133901958
>>133902096
>empowered womynz
I bet you are a gamer couple, tag yourself:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-qAREXVUXk
>>133902455
probably like this:
https://index.rpg.net/display-entry.phtml?mainid=16543

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>>133899887
>Why are women warriors so prevalent in fantasy literature and RPG videogames?

Because art is a business and they want as wide an audience as possible. That means making it palatable to a mixed sex international audience.
Fantasy started out as being based on European mythology but ever since role playing games came along it has been morphing into a universal culture. Look at Japan, they have plenty of their own myths but they still use European style fantasy instead of their own.

>>133902236
Pathfinder went full homoyay a few years ago when people realized they could make money off fag-enabling.

One of the biggest gods for paladins in pathfinder is 100% okay with gay marriage and if you're a paladins you have to consider anyone who doesn't like gays as True Evil.

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I always roll female characters in MMO's and other games because if I'm going to be staring at something for hours, I want it to be a qt and not some dudes ass.

>>133902624
I just like the card game. Know anything similar that isn't gay?

>>133902559
kek not bad

>>133902469
>With all of the completely broken classes and magic item
That's part of the fun.
>Ever play with a factotum
No, because I've never played with anyone whose read the book it's from. I've heard of it but don't really see what's broken about it.

>>133901953
What is so broken about it?

>>133899887
SJW's love that shit because it's literally a fantasy world where anything can happen.

Kinda ironic since the ones who started the genre (tolkein, Lewis, etc) were traditionalists and the co founder of D&D was in the military.

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>>133902696
this

>>133902833
Mundanes don't get nice things. Without casting it's hard to anything in a fight except "hit them until they die", where casters get save or die spells at 1st lvl.

>>133902463
nice meme faggot

>>133902833
Mostly the feat system. You get so few picks that your character is either minmaxed to do one thing well or cannot do anything well, depending on what class and race you are. The magic system is also completely bonkers, especially when you add in late-additions like Dungeonscape and Cityscape where the factotum is from.

The gameplay is also far too convoluted for its own good, combat is a very limited slog, the actual Golarion campaign setting is an SJW's wet dream, etc etc.

>>133902769
>No, because I've never played with anyone whose read the book it's from. I've heard of it but don't really see what's broken about it.

>Cunning Insight (Ex):
>Before making an attack roll, damage roll, or saving throw, you can spend 1 inspiration point to gain a competence bonus on the roll equal to your Intelligence modifier. Cunning insight does not require an action, and you can use it as often as you wish during your turn or others’ turns—provided that you have the inspiration points to spend. Because this ability provides a competence bonus, it does not stack with itself.

>Brains over Brawn (Ex):
>At 3rd level, you gain your Intelligence bonus as a modifier on Strength checks, Dexterity checks, and checks involving skills based on Strength or Dexterity, such as Hide, Climb, and Jump.

>Cunning Surge (Ex):
>Starting at 8th level, you learn to push yourself when needed. By spending 3 inspiration points, you can take an extra standard action during your turn.

It's a superpowered rogue divine caster/regular caster skillmonkey of all trades. If you buy an item called a "Gnomish Quickblade" you can use Cunning Insight for fucking Iaijutsu attacks of all things.

There are plenty of table top groups that haven't been pozzed, the problem is that the popularization of "nerd culture" over past 15 years or so has attracted a new demographic the devlopers are now pandering too becuase they are more vocal and have largely displaced the original fan base. It's the same exact thing that happened to video games and comic books and for the same exact reason.

>>133901243
>i get horny looking at cartoon characters all day

ohh...oh wait...

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>>133899887
>Diversity is shoved down our throats
This is one case where I wasn't complaining when I was a teenager.

It's a good alternative to sate and prevent the youth from looking at hardcore porn.

>>133899887
>playing any rpg not originating in Japan
what did you expect?

it all started with the half-elf tee bee hech

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>>133901530
> I just know the fantasy trope of unrealistic gender equality them.
That's not for the benefit of feminism or sjws.
It's for the benefit of
>female players
and
>males who appreciate the female form in fantasy dress

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>>133899887
because men play video games and I like looking at virgin qts in armor faggot

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>>133899887
>women warriors
it's called fantasy for a reason

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>>133902995
>>133903625
>>133902696
>I cannot imagine myself as a man: the posts

I could have gone through the day without having to read about you showing yourself in skimpy clothing in the middle of all the buffed male NPCs.


I mean I know you don't do it because you all are some type of group of faggots, but honestly, why let everyone know that? why did you need to tell us that?

>>133899887
Idealism. Who wouldn't like a woman being virtuous and honorable and gallant? They do exist IRL, but it's rare as fuck to find them.

>>133899887

>fantasy

Any questions?

>>133903444
>your character is either minmaxed to do one thing well or cannot do anything well
What other option should there be?
>Golarion
That's pathfinder

It's a fantasy game. There's all sorts of stupid illogical bullshit in fantasy, that's the point. Yeah if it's a historical game your argument makes perfect sense, but this is a universe with elves, tree ents, wizards, etc. Can't say much about D&D specifically since I don't play it but If you want a bit more red pill in your tabletop or roleplay I would recommend Warhammer 40k with Black Templars.

Female adventurers have always been around. Female gods have always been around. Multiple races have always been around. Diverse cultural references have always been around.

That said, one would think that role-playing games have little to do with real-world identity politics, because in a game you can assume any role. At least if your audience is mature enough. It seems though that more and more entertainment is being targeted at women and "minorities", who only want to play two games: "white genocide" and "we wuz kangs". Apparently these things sell and normal things don't. Well, in this case we should just stop consuming entertainment that is meant for minorities. Stop watching new movies with black actors, stop playing new games about "kangz", stop reading modern books, and so on. The amount of existing books, films, and games is so enormous that it will last all of us a lifetime. Speaking of D&D, it peaked around the versions 2-3.5, and there's literally no need to buy anything new. There's also plenty of other settings and systems.

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>>133903882
so basically you are saying is called fantasy because being a girl is your fantasy?

>Having a GM that treats men and women as exactly the same in-game

Find a better GM desu senpai, that's the great thing about RPGs the 'official lore' doesn't mean shit. Make your own world.

Only good female warrior was Xena

you know im right, that show was the shit.

>>133899887
because eowyn was a character in lord of the rings and 90 percent of fantasy rips off that.

and then its so women can have self insert characters.

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>>133904566
the trend started for a reason, it started to have more girls in the hobbie, because it was assumed that with more girls you could get a RPG gf while being a nerd loser.

that idea has failed. now that they are here is obvious it was better before they ruined the whole thing and tried to hijack the hobby to the single gurl hamming practice

>>133899887
I can't really play a female when I play (I try to when I DM) due to the fact that I'm not a woman, I cannot voice a woman, and I like to play characters that are parts of myself (makes them more believable).
As far as changing lore goes...
>lets change a historical fact about the lore and fantasy of this game to appeal to a bunch of faggots
yea can't vouch for that. They were what they were, and you shouldn't retcon things just to join the diversity cult. Fucking idiots.

>>133899887
It only happened after 3.5

5.0 is pure normie shit from what I hear.

>>133901159
Still, changing characters (I can see gods since they can do whatever the fuck they want in these universes) to another race, gender, etc. just to be diverse is fucking dumb.
Look what it did to marvel, hope it happens here too.

>>133899887
You know when it comes to D&D and pen and paper RPGs you can homebrew everything to be more realistic if you want it to be. I'm currently playing a campaign with a lot of homebrewing to the point that all the gods and godesses are homebrewd and if anyone in the party has a diffrent religion than the witch hunter in the group, which I play, theywill get burned at the stakes as heretics.
If you must follow the rule book to the letter than that is up to you, but hte rules are more of a collection of guide lines and not you can change things or use other settings that you feel more appropriate. Changing things makes it your game and makes stuff uniqe to that campaign, you don't have to break the rules to change some stuff in the campaign.
Like I often use the Warhammer Fantasy setting when GMing Pathfinder games because I like that universe better and feel more comfortable GMing a campaign in a world I know, or I might just make up a world to use entirely out of my imagination.
And female characters don't bother me, most of the characters will be male anyways and it's refreching to not have the adveturing party be a compleate sausage fest at times.

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>>133899887
Sex sells product.

>>133903735
Yea, nothing wrong with female fantasy characters. At all.
In fact, any 3rd person RPG I'll play a female because that ass.
Revising lore is another thing.

>>133905081
> you could get a RPG gf while being a nerd loser.
Isn't this too far-fetched?

Anyway, it is normal that businesses are looking to expand their audiences, and identity politics is the new shiny PR trick that perhaps even works.

>>133901858
how are the 00's?

Torchbearer exists.

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>>133899887
The same reason they show up in other media, to brainwash us into being cucked and ineffective, a bunch of sheep ready for the slaughter.

>>133899887
Also, pretty sure a good number of /pol/acks play RPGs (either vidya or tt).

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>>133899887
because they are fantasy ie "not real"

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>>133905545
>isn't that too far fetched
just watch the movies from the era.

It's because of Storygames.com and before it, The Forge Forums

their shit infected everything, and RPGs never had a gamergate

The Beta males who consume this stuff want what is essentially a man who looks like a woman.
>Fights and kills shit
>Snarks and makes jokes
>Laughs at farts
>Hypersexualized and ready to go at a moment's notice.

>>133899887
Why give her realistic armor if you give her long hair that will get caught in every joint and link of that armor? Tittyplate forever.

>>133899887
You said it yourself -
Because it's F A N T A S Y

>tfw I'm a woman writing a YA fantasy novel
>protagonist is white, feminine, heterosexual teenage girl
>setting is analogous to old world Europe
>trying to pay homage to the tradition of the greats -- Lewis, L'Engle, Tolkien -- in my worldbuilding
>know I'll probably never get published because even though I'm female the world I'm creating is too white and patriarchal
>publishers only want gay characters with brown skin
>born in the wrong era

>>133899887
New generation of hormone disrupting riddled faggots. In my days women were meant to be a princess to be saved or a object to be pursued, not a fucking thing you role play as. We had a rule that women were NOT to be involved in the affairs of men. Closet gays just love the thought of being an object of attraction, having other sweaty neckbeards lust over. Pretending to be a girl that has a pussy that gets fucked gets them off.

Now you have crap like overwatch and cod ww2 riddled with females instead of even recent games like tf2 that were just male on male action. What the fuck happened to "Boys only clubhouses" and "guys night out"

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>>133905744
>so basically you are saying is called fantasy because being a girl is your fantasy?

>>133903863

You like and want whatever slop gets crammed down your throat, you hungry little pig.

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>>133902371
/tg/ is full of /pol/acks now. Takes about 7 posts before /pol/ related stuff come up and then a shit flinging contest starts before mods shut it down. Try mentioning that genestealers are like jews is a great laugh!

Ours boys are doing great.

>>133901617
Have you ever heard of a mirror senkin vittumainen nuohooja

>>133906891
> genestealers are like jews
This is so stupid that it is even funny.

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>>133907071
Found the genestealer

>>133899887
they're originally there because men like boobs

>>133901958
>the longer my gf gets away from being a woman the better

Your just gay

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>>133906891
yeh, sometimes I love how /pol/ board itself can be targeted for subversion all the time but it got so decentralized that the values and true /pol/'smen can be seen on a lot of places and communities online

>>133902696
It's started out like this for me... turn back before it's 2 late!

>>133900268
>Because it's fantasy lol.

Conflating "fantasy" stories with idle, cheap "fantasizing" about something is what makes the genre shitty.

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>>133899887
It was the way it was to give guys something to masturbate to. I don't think it was about empowering anybody. Which is fine and I don't see why it would make women feel bad. You can do a lot worse than being lumped in with something literally designed to be sexy. As if being hot isn't empowering in and of itself. Nothing irl gives a woman power more than being hot. Guys don't give a shit whether you're a scientist or a fucking waitress when it comes to women, that's just how it is. These uptight hyper ambitious women don't understand that they're not empowering themselves to guys by doing that. Just like women don't care nearly as much about physicality as guys do, but instead on different shallow things like money and actual power, which are ways guys empower themselves to women. If a woman wants to empower herself to men, be hot. If a guy wants to empower himself to women, be rich and powerful.

>>133900847
>>Why are women warriors so prevalent in fantasy literature and RPG videogames?
>>fantasy literature
>>fantasy
>That thread where OP answers their own question in the question itself.

You're a 'tard. Fantasy originated as a continuation of ancient European mythmaking. It was built off of ancient archetypes that resonate. Fantasy literature became popular because of that. Not because you can just throw a bunch of wacky things you like into a gay story and have a power fantasy.

Your attitude fuels the worst aspects of an entire genre.

>>133899887

because playing a female helps me fill the void their indifference to me leaves in real life

>>133899887
3rd person-Female
1st person-male

>>133899887
Fantasy nerds are retarded egalitarians with no concept of character, their excuse is always "it's fantasy anything goes" but making a woman a man just makes for a silly story with no capacity for depth.

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>>133906239
uUUUhh did you just objectify a female character shitlord?

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>>133906239
leftists are insane that is your answer, and cucks and orbiters like those who keep talking "about girls are pretty too masturbate so I should be one" are just enabling this garbage

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>>133899887
I like battle babes as much as the next guy, but the sjw's have taken it to stupid as usual. It's one thing to make your own female characters, it's another to retcon males into females and encourage men to play women. That's fucking stupid.

The average man is 50 pounds heavier than the average female. Men have more cerebral spinal fluid surrounding their brains by about 300%- when a woman gets hit in the head, the point of impact is literally closer to her brain than if a man got hit by the same blow. Men are better at the warrior role by design.

In a fantasy realm you can make all kinds of shit up though. A female orc can have just as much muscle mass and density as a male, for example. You can make a race of elves where the women are bigger and stronger. Fuck, go nuts, it's a goddam fantasy.

Leave it to progressives to ignore the obvious solution and cram their horseshit down everyone's throats though; remaking classics in their image.